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ESPN's Stephen A. Smith discussing what drives him & the importance of making a difference with others · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Sean McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: the money making conversation my man, stephen A Smith? How
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  Speaker 1: you doing, stephen A? What's going on? Man? How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: early statement. You know, everybody knowing based in the Lanta, Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you traveled between New York and Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: text and I see this guy, you know, crouching behind
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  Speaker 1: this car, you know, and he looks like he's a
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  Speaker 1: What's what's called on his TV? What do they have
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  Speaker 1: you doing on TV? Now? Man? No, I mean I
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  Speaker 1: got a recurring role on the soap opera General Hospital.
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  Speaker 1: My character's name is Brick. I'm a surveillance expert for
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  Speaker 1: the mob headed by Sonny Corenthos. Uh In real life,
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  Speaker 1: his name is Maurice Bernard's character in General Hospital Sonny Corenthos.
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  Speaker 1: His his henchman is right here. Man is Jason Morgan.
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  Speaker 1: And essentially I worked for and with a really really
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  Speaker 1: pretty much with those guys. And uh, I was a
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  Speaker 1: subillance expert for the mob. But this particular scene, um,
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  Speaker 1: I had to help out the henchman, Jason Morgan. So
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  Speaker 1: we had to break him out of prison, and uh
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  Speaker 1: I was the driver. But also I'll be sleep. I
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  Speaker 1: was an enforce of myself as you saw, because I
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  Speaker 1: order to get him out of their safety. Sound that's
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  Speaker 1: how you know, we we play around because just watching
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  Speaker 1: you act, you know, is fun to me. But you
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  Speaker 1: really take your acting. You don't believe you really have
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  Speaker 1: the talent to act. But we all know you have
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  Speaker 1: the talent. Why are you so humble about your acting? Well,
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  Speaker 1: because I've never it's you know, I've got such profound
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  Speaker 1: there that you know, the ladies out there that have
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  Speaker 1: done such a phenomenal job taking this profession seriously studying it,
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  Speaker 1: uh from a very young age, going to school for
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  Speaker 1: learning the tricks of the trains per se. Me. I've
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  Speaker 1: never done any of that. I'm a guy that's a
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  Speaker 1: sports announcer. I'm a sports commentator and broadcaster. I'm a journalist.
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  Speaker 1: I've been a newspaper journalist and you know, before transitioning
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  Speaker 1: the radio and television for the past twenty eight years
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  Speaker 1: or so. Because I've never put the work into the profession. Essentially,
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  Speaker 1: what I do is go about the business of making
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  Speaker 1: sure that I memorized my lines to the best of
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  Speaker 1: my ability, so I'm not a hindrance or an impediment
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  Speaker 1: to the success of the show. Uh in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: Outside of that, I just followed their lead. I listen
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  Speaker 1: to what Maurice Bernard and and Steve Burton, who plays
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  Speaker 1: those characters that I mentioned earlier. I listened to what
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  Speaker 1: they tell me to do and how they tell me
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  Speaker 1: to do it. Along with executive producer Frank Bellan's team.
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  Speaker 1: They all think I can act. They all think that
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  Speaker 1: I've done an incredible job. But I give all praise
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  Speaker 1: to them because of how much they've helped me and
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  Speaker 1: how much they've embraced me being a part of the show.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where the humility comes in, because they could
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  Speaker 1: have made it difficult if they wanted to. They never ever,
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  Speaker 1: ever did it, not for one second. They invited me
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  Speaker 1: on the show, they asked me to do it, and
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  Speaker 1: they've been incredibly supportive. And I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being a part of it has really really helped me
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  Speaker 1: appreciate me, you know, actors and actresses even more. It's
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  Speaker 1: allowed me to take that very significantly more seriously and
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  Speaker 1: now I am interest been and learning more and doing
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  Speaker 1: it because it's something to be said about being able
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  Speaker 1: to play a character and that character is allowed to
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  Speaker 1: do whatever they write for the character to do, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not held against you. You know, you could be
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  Speaker 1: you could be a killer, you could be a criminal,
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  Speaker 1: you could be Gandhi for crying, and allow whatever the
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  Speaker 1: role calls for. It's acting and if you do it,
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  Speaker 1: and you do it well, the public tends to appreciate
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  Speaker 1: the role that you're playing and then they leave you
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  Speaker 1: alone on a personal level, and that's a beautiful thing. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's the funny thing about you is that you're you're
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  Speaker 1: so talented, but you also are I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: admit certain skill sets because I feel you're really funny, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and the opportunities to come away you're funny on your show,
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  Speaker 1: you're I guess we can use the word sarcastic, which
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  Speaker 1: leads you to being funny. Can you Stephen A. Smith
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  Speaker 1: host Saturday Night Live? I think I can hold Saturday
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  Speaker 1: Night Live one night, but I think I would need
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  Speaker 1: the help of Pete david Ston and Chris red And
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  Speaker 1: and all of those guys. I would definitely need their assistance.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing I ever worry about is the opening
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  Speaker 1: monologue in terms of just playing the role or whatever
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  Speaker 1: for a show or whatever the case would be. I
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  Speaker 1: know I can do that. Um. I have aspirations to
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  Speaker 1: host late night television someday because I don't you know,
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  Speaker 1: since our senior Hall has departed, I think there's been
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  Speaker 1: a gap on network television that hasn't been fulfilled, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm confident that I could be able to do that,
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  Speaker 1: but I will still need writers to help me with
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  Speaker 1: the opening monologue because I want to be as funny
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  Speaker 1: as I possibly can be and my confident that I
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  Speaker 1: can do these things shut But I compare myself to
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be average or just good at
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  Speaker 1: and the AD Council. So why are you so competitive?
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  Speaker 1: Because that sounds like a competitive mindset. What drives that
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  Speaker 1: is is the ability of wanting to be number one
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  Speaker 1: or the fact growing up or in college you didn't
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  Speaker 1: feel you got the right of credit for your accomplishment.
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  Speaker 1: What drives that competitiveness comes from at all? I got
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  Speaker 1: left back in the fourth grade because that at the
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  Speaker 1: first grade reading level, I was called the dummy, and
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  Speaker 1: I was you know, I had guidance counsels and others
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  Speaker 1: laughing at the notion of me ultimately going on to
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  Speaker 1: get a college education. Um, all my life, I've been doubted,
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  Speaker 1: I've been marginalized and minimized to some degree. Um, at
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  Speaker 1: least in the initial process. And I don't recall a
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  Speaker 1: time ever where I've walked into a situation and the
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  Speaker 1: assumption was I was going to be great. I've always
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  Speaker 1: had to prove myself. So I combined that with the
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  Speaker 1: reality that we live in a capitalistic society. To the
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  Speaker 1: victors go the spoils. Uh. If you want something, if
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  Speaker 1: you want something bad, You're gonna have to go get it.
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  Speaker 1: Really is it going to be handed to you? Almost
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  Speaker 1: never if you are of the black man and understanding
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  Speaker 1: that reality and knowing those obstacles that I'm going to face. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: somebody has chosen, no matter what profession it is, no
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  Speaker 1: matter what your job description is, no matter what your
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  Speaker 1: job title is. Ultimately something someone is chosen. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're chosen, it's usually at the expense of somebody else,
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  Speaker 1: And if somebody else has chosen, it's usually at the
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  Speaker 1: expense of you. So thereby that reality alone brings into
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  Speaker 1: the equation competition. That's what competition is. And because that's
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  Speaker 1: the situation, I embrace it. I accept it because I
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  Speaker 1: know it's a reality that's never going to escape me
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  Speaker 1: in my lifetime. With the world that we're living in
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  Speaker 1: So since I embrace it, embrace competitive furvor. Understand that
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  Speaker 1: you're competing with other people. Understand that you're not the
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  Speaker 1: only one who wants what you want. Every but everybody
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  Speaker 1: can't get it. So put your best foot forward. And
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  Speaker 1: if you have to put your best foot forward in
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  Speaker 1: order to get what you want, that means you have
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  Speaker 1: to maximize your potential UM, and that means you have
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  Speaker 1: to notice what your potential is and what isn't. So
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  Speaker 1: there's so many different steps that come with it. I
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  Speaker 1: understand it, I recognize it, I accepted um, and more importantly,
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  Speaker 1: I embrace it. I like the competition because if I
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  Speaker 1: do get the things that I want, it means I'm
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  Speaker 1: one of, if not the very best at what I do.
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  Speaker 1: And I will not apologize for liking to be the best.
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  Speaker 1: Well the Well, that's true, I know that for a fact.
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  Speaker 1: But you went to an HBCU and our hbc use, Um,
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  Speaker 1: what would you say the reputation is of an HBCU,
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  Speaker 1: And then what did you get out of going to
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  Speaker 1: an HBCU. Well, I think people outside of the world
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  Speaker 1: of HBCUs view it as black colleges and they stopped
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  Speaker 1: right there it's a place for black people to go
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  Speaker 1: to get their education because they probably weren't qualified to
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  Speaker 1: get into a predominantly white institution. I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: thought process of those outside of HBCUs. For those who
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  Speaker 1: have attended HBCUs, we know it's far more than that. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you have professors that are incredibly capable. You have administrative
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  Speaker 1: official you was in a like who are incredibly capable,
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  Speaker 1: from the chancellor on down, and so you have that
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  Speaker 1: going on, and then the student body itself. It's just
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  Speaker 1: a different environment because you're surrounded by people who look
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  Speaker 1: like you, who share your cultural identity. Obviously a lot
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  Speaker 1: of your experiences that you may have ended growing up
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  Speaker 1: and beyond, and so as a result, you have a
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  Speaker 1: support system. You don't feel like you're, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: dot in the ocean of folks that don't look like
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  Speaker 1: you and don't share any kind of identity with you.
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  Speaker 1: You feel like you're a part of a brotherhood, of
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  Speaker 1: the sisterhood, of a family. You have professors who don't
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  Speaker 1: just care about grades, they care about your well being.
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  Speaker 1: They invest in you because you're one of them, and
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  Speaker 1: it's in their best interest to see you as sin
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  Speaker 1: and to see you succeed, uh to to like that
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  Speaker 1: maybe you didn't even imagine. And so because you walk
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  Speaker 1: into that, this actually add impression. Sometimes it could be
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  Speaker 1: even a bit harder than you imagine, because the interest
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  Speaker 1: in you elevates not just from a professional on an
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  Speaker 1: academic level, but to a personal level. They place a
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  Speaker 1: personal invested interests in you because they consider you an
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  Speaker 1: extension of them and therefore a reflection of them. And
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  Speaker 1: if you if you don't succeed, you're not only letting
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  Speaker 1: yourself down, you're letting those professions down, you're letting down
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  Speaker 1: the institution that that you represent, and you're letting down HBC,
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  Speaker 1: you folks everywhere because you're contributing to a stigma or
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  Speaker 1: a level of skepticism that people outside of HBCUs may
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  Speaker 1: have that is completely inaccurate. But you've attached the level
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  Speaker 1: of legitimacy to their skepticism and their cynicism. And so
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  Speaker 1: when you recognize that challenge, you've got to embrace the
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  Speaker 1: reality that you're supposed to want to debunk those those skeptics,
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  Speaker 1: those cynics at every time. You want to show them
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  Speaker 1: that indeed, this is what you can do. And so
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  Speaker 1: for me. I remember when I was working for the
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  Speaker 1: New York Daily News. Before I worked for the New
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  Speaker 1: York Daily News, it was because I got offered an
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  Speaker 1: internship with the met Pro Internship Program, and that was
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  Speaker 1: a collaboration between New York News Day and Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: Times Daily newspapers where they were taking interns from all
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  Speaker 1: over the country and employing UH throughout their various papers
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  Speaker 1: throughout the country. And there was twenty four candidates. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry it was twenty four people that was chosen, but
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  Speaker 1: over three thousand candidates. I was one of the twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: And you had people that winter, you Columbia University of Columbia,
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  Speaker 1: Missouri UM, you know, Columbia, New York Ivy League Schools,
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  Speaker 1: usc U, c l A, Northwestern, various other journalism programs,
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  Speaker 1: and they had incredible grades. What I had was two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty published clips before I even graduated, because
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  Speaker 1: I had interned at the Winster Salem Journal, the Greensborg News,
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  Speaker 1: a Record, the Atlanta Journal Constitution back at the at
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  Speaker 1: the Winster salim In Journal. Plus I had written for
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  Speaker 1: the newspaper before I ever graduated, because I understood that
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  Speaker 1: coming from an HBCU what I was going up against.
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  Speaker 1: I understood that I had to do a little extra
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  Speaker 1: and I had to be a little bit different in
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  Speaker 1: order to put my foot forward into really stand out
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  Speaker 1: to make sure I wasn't just a name on a
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  Speaker 1: resumeate you knew exactly who the hell I was. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what I went about, the business accomplishment of a opporishing.
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  Speaker 1: I did it, and I beat out those people, and
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  Speaker 1: it was really an indication of what was to come
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  Speaker 1: because I realized throughout my career I would have to
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  Speaker 1: face similar challenges and I would have to overcome similar
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  Speaker 1: similar obstacles in order to get to where I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be. And that's what I did well. That statement
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  Speaker 1: allows me to transition to I like to call it
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  Speaker 1: the book, the memoir. Why is that important to get
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  Speaker 1: your stories on paper? And then you've been approached by
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  Speaker 1: a major publishing company and giving an opportunity to tell
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  Speaker 1: your story. Why is your story important? And how will
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  Speaker 1: it help people when they read about your story? Because
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  Speaker 1: the people who are closest to me, the people who
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  Speaker 1: love me, uh, the people who have known me for
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  Speaker 1: a very long time, my family, my friends, people like you,
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  Speaker 1: UM y'all insistent on that. I was actually reluctant and
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  Speaker 1: It's both. Uh, it's it's definitely fun because I don't
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  Speaker 1: I believe I'm the Michael Jordan's of television. I truly do.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm talking about you know, sports television. To be exact,
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  Speaker 1: I believe I'm the Michael Jordan of television, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: really feel that way. I think I'm better per se.
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  Speaker 1: I knew he had to go. But that that's the
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  Speaker 1: kind of conversations um that you know, you know I've had,
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  Speaker 1: and I learned successful habits. I learned what to eradicate
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  Speaker 1: to intertwine, but they've they've taken you to another level
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  Speaker 1: on the social media side and then on the Baby
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  Speaker 1: Baby Baby stephen A, I take I give all the
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  Speaker 1: year or so ago, you know, they attached the baby
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was hilarious actually, and I said, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, that's something that I want to do so
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  Speaker 1: periodically on social media. Um. I threw that out there, um,
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  Speaker 1: and folks loved it. And because they loved it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: once I started to my show, I said, you know
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  Speaker 1: what it has to be. You know, it has to
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  Speaker 1: be on the show like an alter ego of mine
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. Because baby stephen A is arguing with stephen
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  Speaker 1: A all the time. You know, he challenges me even
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  Speaker 1: though he's a baby, you know. Indicative of today's generation
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  Speaker 1: I knew everything when I was younger. You all of
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  Speaker 1: those kind of things, and so I just incorporate some
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  Speaker 1: of those things into it and it's just taken off
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  Speaker 1: and it's really really funny the way they digitize everything.
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  Speaker 1: It makes it look like the baby face and all
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  Speaker 1: of that stuff. So that's great, um, But in terms
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  Speaker 1: I got thirteen niems I'm sorry, fifteen nieces and nephews.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of family stories that I could tell.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of us can do that where I can
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  Speaker 1: imitate my mother, I can imitate my sisters, or I
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  Speaker 1: peel a lot of ideas from my personal experiences growing up,
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  Speaker 1: not just in terms of voices, diction, cadence, how people
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  Speaker 1: talk to you, how they deliver certain things, stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: um in terms of speaking to you. All of those
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  Speaker 1: things contribute you. Two characters that I try to bring
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  Speaker 1: and incorporate on my show because I think those I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of fun memories and stuff like that. Like,
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  Speaker 1: for example, I got one of my boys literally literally
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  Speaker 1: Rashanda is the absolute truth. One of my boys literally
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  Speaker 1: was sucking his thumb until he was forty two years old.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't even bring him to the screen yet.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he was one of those and he was
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  Speaker 1: like Steve Yo, Steve, Joe, you're tripping. It was stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that, and so you know, I'm like, just imagine
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  Speaker 1: if somebody like that was on TV, people would be crying.
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  Speaker 1: Levin he had grown man, but he he just stopped
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  Speaker 1: sucking his thumb a decade ago, literally a decade ago.
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  Speaker 1: He was sucking his dumb through college. He never stopped.
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  Speaker 1: the kind of guys that I grew up with, the
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  Speaker 1: kind of people that I've been around, the personalities. So
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  Speaker 1: it's always it's always easy for me the peel compelling stories,
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  Speaker 1: levity to the situation. Uh, and just let people know
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make them laugh, trying to make them
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  Speaker 1: I do like to have fun. I do like to
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  Speaker 1: make other people smile when I can. And so that's
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  Speaker 1: just the kind of things that I try to bring
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  Speaker 1: Let's get that out of the way. But seeing the
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  Speaker 1: their work, an interview and them, and then seeing people
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  Speaker 1: you My sisters and others would be like, man, you
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  Speaker 1: have the luxury of sitting back and just enjoying. You
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  Speaker 1: In the week after that and the week after that
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