Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Inside the Senate Vote on the New Majority Leader
Transcript
- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome.
- 0:01Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
- 0:05Speaker 2: You're back in Washington, d C. My, oh my, how
- 0:08Speaker 2: things have changed since the last time you were in
- 0:10Speaker 2: DC before election Day.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Well, I've been back in d C the entire week.
- 0:16Speaker 3: I'm actually back in Texas right now, you and I
- 0:18Speaker 3: are talking. It's eleven o'clock Thursday night. I just got
- 0:20Speaker 3: back to Texas this evening. But this was the first
- 0:23Speaker 3: week back in d C since the election, and I
- 0:26Speaker 3: got to say, it's a remarkable time that there is
- 0:29Speaker 3: an enormous energy, There's an enormous enthusiasm, and the people
- 0:34Speaker 3: are really excited. People are excited about President Trump coming
- 0:37Speaker 3: back in the White House. People are excited about the
- 0:39Speaker 3: new administration. People are excited about a Republican Senate and
- 0:43Speaker 3: a Republican House. And it's interesting you look at the Democrats.
- 0:48Speaker 3: The Democrats are shell shocked. They're just that they have
- 0:52Speaker 3: a difficult time believing what has happened, and they're just
- 0:56Speaker 3: kind of looking around like, you know, Okay, wow, We're
- 1:00Speaker 3: in a whole new world. And so it was a
- 1:02Speaker 3: really good week. It was a consequential week. We got back,
- 1:08Speaker 3: we had. The very first thing we did is dove
- 1:12Speaker 3: into leadership elections for the new majority leader, and the
- 1:16Speaker 3: very first majority leader was elected in eighteen years and
- 1:21Speaker 3: so on the podcast today, I'm going to bring inside
- 1:24Speaker 3: of that that I'm going to tell you about what's
- 1:26Speaker 3: going on in the Senate. We're going to break all
- 1:28Speaker 3: of that down. We're also going to break down a
- 1:31Speaker 3: major terrorist arrest that happened. And you're in my hometown, Houston, Texas,
- 1:35Speaker 3: so we're going to talk about all that.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Yeah, big show for sure. Let me tell you about
- 1:39Speaker 2: AMO Squared real quick. If you're like me and you
- 1:42Speaker 2: want to know you have AMO when you need it,
- 1:44Speaker 2: and if you've ever gone through that stress of not
- 1:47Speaker 2: being able to find AMMO, maybe it's a certain caliber
- 1:50Speaker 2: that's hard to find. And then when COVID happened, you
- 1:52Speaker 2: couldn't get anything, and when you did find it, you
- 1:54Speaker 2: were paying five, six, seven x over what you used
- 1:57Speaker 2: to pay. Well, a lot of people learn from that.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I'm one of them, and now i know I've got AMMO.
- 2:02Speaker 2: No matter what. AMO Squared is pretty amazing. It's an
- 2:06Speaker 2: automated approach to purchasing AMO on any budget. It's simple.
- 2:10Speaker 2: You pick your calibers, you set your budget, That budget
- 2:13Speaker 2: can change anytime, and then you select the shipping trigger
- 2:16Speaker 2: and that's it. Your AMO grows over time. And here's
- 2:20Speaker 2: the other thing I love. My AMMO is stored for
- 2:22Speaker 2: free as it builds up, and it's shipped with the
- 2:24Speaker 2: click of a button. Now what happens if I buy
- 2:27Speaker 2: one caliber and then I get rid of that firearm
- 2:29Speaker 2: and I get a different caliber firearm and I'm like,
- 2:31Speaker 2: I don't need that AMMO anymore. That's another thing you
- 2:33Speaker 2: love about AMO squared. You can trade it in no problem.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Ammo squared offers nearly seventy different caliber options, So forget
- 2:42Speaker 2: about moving heavy case of AMMO in your garage or
- 2:45Speaker 2: trying to sell AMO online. You can literally exchange your
- 2:48Speaker 2: AMO squared inventory from one caliber to another in seconds
- 2:52Speaker 2: with just a few clicks. And there is no minimum
- 2:55Speaker 2: to buy, no memberships needed, no extra fees. So I
- 2:59Speaker 2: want to give you some free a m O right
- 3:01Speaker 2: now in your account. Sign up at amos squared dot
- 3:04Speaker 2: com slash ben. That's amosquared dot com slash ben, and
- 3:10Speaker 2: you're gonna get free AMO in your account today. Amosquared
- 3:13Speaker 2: dot com slash Ben So Senator, let's talk about you
- 3:17Speaker 2: mentioned it in the opening there, the mood you've gone
- 3:21Speaker 2: back to Washington and been from the majority to the minority.
- 3:25Speaker 1: It's not fun. Yeah, But when you lose the White House.
- 3:29Speaker 2: You lose this, you lose the the Senate, and you
- 3:33Speaker 2: thought you might be able to pick up the House
- 3:35Speaker 2: Democrats and you don't get that either. And the Republicans
- 3:38Speaker 2: have a very secure apparatus around you. That's a really
- 3:43Speaker 2: bad day for Democrats when they go back to Washington.
- 3:46Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:46Speaker 3: And I can tell you in the Senate at least
- 3:48Speaker 3: the Senate Democrats were walking around just shell shocked that
- 3:51Speaker 3: they were not expecting what happened on election Day.
- 3:54Speaker 4: And and and it's it's tough.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Now.
- 3:56Speaker 3: I've been there. I've been there when we had the
- 3:58Speaker 3: majority and lost it, and that's sucks. But but this
- 4:02Speaker 3: this was just a thumping across the board. We also
- 4:05Speaker 3: had this week, uh, this week is the orientation for
- 4:08Speaker 3: newly elected senators. So we had Jim Justice for West Virginia.
- 4:11Speaker 4: He was there.
- 4:12Speaker 3: We we had Tim Sheehey from Montana, he was there.
- 4:16Speaker 3: We had Bernie Moreno from Ohio, he was there. And
- 4:18Speaker 3: we had Dave McCormick from Pennsylvania.
- 4:21Speaker 4: He was there.
- 4:21Speaker 3: So we've got four new Republican senators, all of whom
- 4:25Speaker 3: were there, and and that that that that's what flipped
- 4:28Speaker 3: the Senate. So it was good to see them. They
- 4:30Speaker 3: were excited to be there. And then they're starting the
- 4:32Speaker 3: whole process of orientation. I will tell you, the Senate's
- 4:35Speaker 3: an interesting place. So you get elected, and you show
- 4:38Speaker 3: up and you and you have a week of orientation
- 4:40Speaker 3: and you do all these different little sessions where they
- 4:42Speaker 3: talk about the ethics rules, they talk about all all
- 4:46Speaker 3: the ways it operates, they talk about staffing up your office,
- 4:49Speaker 3: and and you're put in a little basement office as
- 4:52Speaker 3: a newly elected senator elect and and you know, it's
- 4:57Speaker 3: it's kind of an interesting place because the Senate, there
- 5:00Speaker 3: are one hundred senator offices.
- 5:02Speaker 4: There are one hundred senators.
- 5:04Speaker 3: You would think it would be fairly quick and efficient
- 5:07Speaker 3: to assign each one of the senators the senator offices. Well,
- 5:11Speaker 3: this is an aspect where I mean, there are a
- 5:13Speaker 3: lot of ways in which the US Senate is not
- 5:16Speaker 3: even like a high school. It's like a junior high.
- 5:18Speaker 3: It's basically mean girls. And one of the ways is
- 5:22Speaker 3: the new senators basically get hazed, where you get stuck
- 5:26Speaker 3: down in a tiny basement office for several months. And
- 5:30Speaker 3: mind you, there are fully empty Senate offices. Once we
- 5:34Speaker 3: get to January and the old guys have left, they're
- 5:36Speaker 3: fully empty Senate offices, but it takes several months to
- 5:40Speaker 3: assign them. And so the new guys are there, they're
- 5:44Speaker 3: kind of looking around, they're sort of blinking, starry eyed,
- 5:47Speaker 3: and I remember it, well, you're like, holy crap, what
- 5:50Speaker 3: am I doing here? And you go to the initial
- 5:53Speaker 3: lunches and one of the first things you have to
- 5:56Speaker 3: do as a senator is you have to decide, okay,
- 5:59Speaker 3: what committees do I want to be on? And so
- 6:02Speaker 3: you send a formal letter to the to the leader
- 6:06Speaker 3: of your party saying, here are the committees I want
- 6:08Speaker 3: to be on, and each senator actually senators, it's a
- 6:13Speaker 3: it's a lot better the committee asignment process, and the
- 6:15Speaker 3: Senate is much much better than the House. The way
- 6:18Speaker 3: it operates is that every newly elected senator is guaranteed
- 6:24Speaker 3: to what are called A committees and one B committee,
- 6:30Speaker 3: and you can with some regularity beyond even a fourth
- 6:34Speaker 3: or a fifth committee as well. So The A committees
- 6:37Speaker 3: are the major committees that have the broadest jurisdiction. The
- 6:43Speaker 3: B committees are less consequential committees. They have less authority.
- 6:48Speaker 3: And the way it works is you can accrue seniority
- 6:54Speaker 3: on two A committees and one B committee. So for me,
- 6:58Speaker 3: my two A committees are the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science,
- 7:02Speaker 3: and Transportation and the Senate Judiciary Committee. And so when
- 7:06Speaker 3: I first got elected in twenty twelve, as I have
- 7:09Speaker 3: brand new baby senator, I sent in a letter and said, okay,
- 7:11Speaker 3: here are the two A committees. I want Commerce and
- 7:14Speaker 3: I want Judiciary.
- 7:16Speaker 4: And my B.
- 7:17Speaker 3: Committee is the Rules Committee, and so I have seniority
- 7:20Speaker 3: on the Rules Committee as well. Now you can also
- 7:24Speaker 3: with some frequency get a third A committee and the
- 7:28Speaker 3: third A committee you're on, but you don't accruse seniority,
- 7:32Speaker 3: so you're not climbing up the ranks. You're not in
- 7:35Speaker 3: the line to be a chairman. So my third A
- 7:38Speaker 3: committee for the first six years in the Senate was
- 7:40Speaker 3: the Senate Armed Services Committee. So I was on Senate
- 7:43Speaker 3: Armed Services, a great committee. I enjoyed it very much.
- 7:46Speaker 3: And then I shifted over to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Foreign Relations is my third A committee, so I don't
- 7:52Speaker 3: recruse seniority. So I will never be Chairman of Foreign
- 7:55Speaker 3: Relations because I have no seniority on the committee and
- 7:57Speaker 3: you're only allowed to accrue on two a's and one b.
- 8:02Speaker 3: But because I chose Judiciary and Commerce, that's why in
- 8:07Speaker 3: this new Senate I will be the chairman of the
- 8:09Speaker 3: Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, because I crude
- 8:13Speaker 3: enough seniority that I am now the most senior Republican
- 8:17Speaker 3: on the Commerce Committee.
- 8:18Speaker 4: And by the.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Way, that is a huge damn deal. The Commerce Committee
- 8:23Speaker 3: has jurisdiction.
- 8:24Speaker 2: And that's what was going to ask you, is is
- 8:25Speaker 2: people ask they say, Okay, they see chairmanship, and they're like,
- 8:28Speaker 2: does that mean more TV time? Does that mean that
- 8:31Speaker 2: you're a spokesman in the sense for the committee or
- 8:34Speaker 2: does that mean you actually have power?
- 8:36Speaker 1: So explain what that looks like.
- 8:38Speaker 3: It is massive and transformation, and I'll confess I didn't
- 8:42Speaker 3: fully understand that until all right, So for the last
- 8:46Speaker 3: two years, I've been the ranking member on the Senate
- 8:49Speaker 3: Commerce Committee. Now, now what does it mean to be
- 8:51Speaker 3: the ranking member? You're the senior Republican, but you're in
- 8:53Speaker 3: the minority. That is a massive shift. So the last
- 8:57Speaker 3: two years have been enormously consequential. And I'm about to
- 9:01Speaker 3: be the chairman of the Commerce Committee cause we're in
- 9:03Speaker 3: the majority now. Now what does it mean when you're
- 9:05Speaker 3: and the Commerce Committee is an a committee? It is
- 9:08Speaker 3: a major committee. So when you become the ranking member,
- 9:13Speaker 3: which I did two years ago, of the Commerce Committee,
- 9:15Speaker 3: one of the consequences is your budget goes up dramatically.
- 9:19Speaker 3: So to give a sense, as a Senator from a
- 9:22Speaker 3: large state, a state like Texas, I had for the
- 9:24Speaker 3: first ten years in the Senate about sixty five staff members.
- 9:29Speaker 3: So I have roughly thirty to thirty five in DC
- 9:32Speaker 3: and thirty to thirty five in Texas. So that's the divide.
- 9:37Speaker 3: You have about half in d C. They're your policy staff,
- 9:40Speaker 3: your communications staff, your administrative staff.
- 9:43Speaker 4: That's in DC. And then in Texas.
- 9:45Speaker 3: I've got regional offices all over the state in the
- 9:48Speaker 3: major cities, and I've got constituent Service teams in Texas
- 9:51Speaker 3: that help thirty million Texans.
- 9:53Speaker 4: So if you're a.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Veteran and you're dealing with the VA and you've got issues,
- 9:57Speaker 3: you call into my Constituent Service team and we help
- 10:00Speaker 3: help veterans, We help seniors with Social Security, We help
- 10:02Speaker 3: people whose passports have expired.
- 10:04Speaker 4: We get people who are, like you.
- 10:06Speaker 3: Know, getting ready to take a family vacation in tomorrow
- 10:09Speaker 3: and they realize, oh crap, my passport's expired, and we
- 10:12Speaker 3: helped them get a passport. So we you as a senator,
- 10:17Speaker 3: and you get a little bit larger budget, a little
- 10:19Speaker 3: bit larger staff if you're a large state. In Texas
- 10:21Speaker 3: obviously is a large state. So for ten years, I had,
- 10:25Speaker 3: like I said, between sixty and sixty five staff members.
- 10:29Speaker 3: When I became the ranking member of the Commerce Committee,
- 10:32Speaker 3: my staff expanded by about a third, so I have
- 10:36Speaker 3: roughly one hundred staff members now. So I have I
- 10:38Speaker 3: think thirty eight staff members on the Commerce Committee. So
- 10:41Speaker 3: it dramatically changes your effectiveness because I mean literally, my
- 10:46Speaker 3: DC staff more than doubled. And what it means is
- 10:50Speaker 3: that I've got staff members now for every subcommittee on
- 10:54Speaker 3: the Commerce Committee. So for example, I've got on my
- 10:58Speaker 3: team a railroad lawyer who is an expert in the
- 11:03Speaker 3: law concerning railroads. I've got an expert on aviation because look,
- 11:08Speaker 3: the Commerce Committee has jurisdiction over aviation. It has curisdiction
- 11:12Speaker 3: over communications, it has jurisdiction over railroads, it has jurisdiction
- 11:16Speaker 3: over space, it has jurisdiction over just a vast array.
- 11:21Speaker 3: And I will say it is a force multiplier. When
- 11:24Speaker 3: you have that team, you're able to.
- 11:27Speaker 4: Engage on.
- 11:30Speaker 3: I would say five x or ten x as many
- 11:34Speaker 3: issues because every other member of the Commerce Committee. When
- 11:37Speaker 3: I was on the Commerce Committee for ten years, I
- 11:39Speaker 3: had like one or two staffers that were on Commerce.
- 11:43Speaker 3: If you have one or two staffers versus thirty eight,
- 11:46Speaker 3: it just limits how deep you can dive into issues,
- 11:49Speaker 3: how many things you can engage in. When you've got
- 11:51Speaker 3: an expanded team, you can engage in oversight, you can
- 11:54Speaker 3: put out reports. You just have the ability to drive
- 11:58Speaker 3: much more of an agenda. There's a second aspect of it,
- 12:01Speaker 3: which is when bills are being attached to other moving vehicles. So,
- 12:07Speaker 3: for example, you have something like the National Defense Authorization Act.
- 12:11Speaker 4: The NDAA passes every year.
- 12:13Speaker 3: It authorizes our entire military. It's a hugely consequential bill
- 12:19Speaker 3: because it passes every year. It is often basically a
- 12:24Speaker 3: Christmas tree where you will get dozens or even hundreds
- 12:27Speaker 3: of other bills attached to it that have nothing to
- 12:31Speaker 3: do with defense, and it's just a moving vehicle that
- 12:34Speaker 3: people attach their bills.
- 12:36Speaker 4: Now, the way the center out.
- 12:37Speaker 2: With the pork is that where the pork gets pulled
- 12:39Speaker 2: in it, it's.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Actually not really about pork. That pork happens more in
- 12:46Speaker 3: an appropriation's bill and an omnibus bill, which is doing spending.
- 12:51Speaker 3: But this is just a vehicle for different bills that
- 12:55Speaker 3: that are often good and reasonable ideas, and different people
- 13:00Speaker 3: will attach them to a moving vehicle. But the way
- 13:06Speaker 3: the Senate operates is any bill that is within the
- 13:11Speaker 3: Commerce Committee jurisdiction cannot be attached to the NDAA or
- 13:16Speaker 3: to anything else without the sign off of the chairman,
- 13:21Speaker 3: who's been Maria Cantwell, a Democrat from Washington, for the last.
- 13:24Speaker 4: Two years, and the sign off of the ranking member.
- 13:27Speaker 3: So I have an absolute veto if any other Senator
- 13:30Speaker 3: has any bill within our jurisdiction that they want to
- 13:34Speaker 3: attach to a moving vehicle, they cannot do so without
- 13:38Speaker 3: my sign off. That gives an enormous amount of leverage.
- 13:43Speaker 3: And so the last two years, like I passed a
- 13:46Speaker 3: ton of legislation because frankly, I use that leverage to say, hey,
- 13:50Speaker 3: that's great. You want your bill to move. I want
- 13:53Speaker 3: you to agree to my bill on this. I want
- 13:54Speaker 3: you to agree to doing this. And so it gives
- 13:56Speaker 3: you the ability because you can show anything down within
- 14:01Speaker 3: the jurisdiction of your committee. It gives you the ability
- 14:04Speaker 3: to negotiate some major victories for Texas, some major free
- 14:10Speaker 3: market victories, some major victories for job creation. And so
- 14:14Speaker 3: that was a huge shift. And I will say when
- 14:17Speaker 3: you become the chairman, I okay. I've only been the
- 14:23Speaker 3: incoming chairman for a couple of days, so I don't
- 14:25Speaker 3: really know. I will have much more of an assessment
- 14:28Speaker 3: of that six months from now, but I think it
- 14:31Speaker 3: is five x, if not ten x more consequential.
- 14:36Speaker 2: So the question is for everybody listening, is okay, what
- 14:40Speaker 2: will get done because of this?
- 14:41Speaker 1: Right?
- 14:42Speaker 2: This is part of the payoff of the election getting
- 14:45Speaker 2: the Senate to be in the majority of the Republicans.
- 14:47Speaker 2: So paint the picture for people to understand not only
- 14:51Speaker 2: is this yes, powerful, but what does this now mean
- 14:53Speaker 2: that we can get done that Maybe in the last
- 14:56Speaker 2: Congress there was no chance in how of certain things
- 14:59Speaker 2: getting done.
- 15:00Speaker 3: So look, my number one priority in the Senate is jobs.
- 15:03Speaker 3: I'm focused on jobs, jobs, jobs, economic growth. I want
- 15:06Speaker 3: more jobs. I want more jobs in Texas. I want
- 15:08Speaker 3: more opportunity in Texas. I want higher wages in Texas.
- 15:12Speaker 3: If you want jobs, the two most effective levers to
- 15:15Speaker 3: produce jobs are tax reform and regulatory reform. That every
- 15:20Speaker 3: time you reduce taxes, you simplify the tax code, You
- 15:23Speaker 3: reduce and repeal job killing regulations, small businesses expand, and
- 15:27Speaker 3: you get more jobs. The Commerce Committee, as I said,
- 15:31Speaker 3: has jurisdiction over forty percent of the US economy. So
- 15:36Speaker 3: if you care about jobs, there are very few positions
- 15:38Speaker 3: in Washington that have greater leverage, greater ability to impact
- 15:43Speaker 3: jobs in the state of Texas than chairmen of the
- 15:47Speaker 3: Senate Commerce Committee. And so what will get done? So,
- 15:51Speaker 3: for example, one of my big priorities is going to
- 15:53Speaker 3: be spectrum. So right now, there's an enormous amount of
- 15:57Speaker 3: spectrum that the government owns and controls kifa off the market.
- 16:01Speaker 3: I want to move it to the private sector. Why
- 16:04Speaker 3: because when you move spectrum to the private sector, it
- 16:08Speaker 3: creates tens or even hundreds of thousands of jobs, and
- 16:12Speaker 3: it unleashes tens or hundreds of billions of dollars of investment.
- 16:17Speaker 3: That spectrum enables five G enables expanding wireless, enables new
- 16:22Speaker 3: technology apps.
- 16:24Speaker 4: That is, if you.
- 16:25Speaker 3: Care about jobs, opening up spectrum for the private sector,
- 16:29Speaker 3: and the way the government does it, it has an
- 16:31Speaker 3: auction for the spectrum, so you free up at an
- 16:34Speaker 3: area of spectrum, and then you have a public auction
- 16:37Speaker 3: and companies pay billions of dollars to the federal government
- 16:41Speaker 3: to acquire a portion of spectrum and then to market
- 16:44Speaker 3: something to consumers, and so it ends up being a
- 16:47Speaker 3: massive area of investment and expansion of jobs. That's going
- 16:52Speaker 3: to be a huge priority. Another huge priority for me
- 16:55Speaker 3: is artificial intelligence. The Democrats want to regulate the hell
- 16:58Speaker 3: out of artificial intellig leigence. They want to create essentially
- 17:02Speaker 3: a European style prior approval system where any innovation in
- 17:08Speaker 3: AI you got to go to the federal government first.
- 17:10Speaker 4: That's a terrible idea.
- 17:12Speaker 3: It's an idea that is almost perfectly designed to ensure
- 17:16Speaker 3: that America loses the battle for AI and and we
- 17:19Speaker 3: fall behind the rest of the world. Well, as chairman
- 17:21Speaker 3: of the Commerce Committee, I'm not going to let that happen.
- 17:24Speaker 3: I want to maintain a very light touch regulatory environment
- 17:27Speaker 3: where innovation is driven from the private sector. Because I
- 17:30Speaker 3: think AI, and we'll talk about this more. We'll we'll
- 17:33Speaker 3: have additional podcasts that go deeper into AI. But I
- 17:36Speaker 3: think AI has a potential and in fact, I think
- 17:39Speaker 3: it will be the same sort of transformational technology that
- 17:45Speaker 3: the development of the Internet was twenty five years ago.
- 17:48Speaker 3: And in fact, several months ago, I wrote an op
- 17:50Speaker 3: ed with with Phil Graham, former Senator from Texas, and
- 17:54Speaker 3: I did something that would surprise some people, but Phil
- 17:56Speaker 3: and I together we praised a Democrat president and we
- 18:00Speaker 3: praised Bill Clinton. So Bill Clinton was president during the
- 18:05Speaker 3: really formation of the Internet, and Bill Clinton signed an
- 18:08Speaker 3: executive order that was a very light touch regulatory footprint
- 18:14Speaker 3: on the Internet and the growth of it, and it
- 18:17Speaker 3: allowed private companies to develop and innovate and the consequence
- 18:24Speaker 3: of that, so it's actually striking. In nineteen ninety three,
- 18:28Speaker 3: the economy of the United States of America was almost
- 18:31Speaker 3: exactly the same size as the economy of the European Union.
- 18:38Speaker 3: The EU took a dramatically different approach. They took a
- 18:42Speaker 3: prior approval approach where they said, Okay, our government has
- 18:45Speaker 3: to approve whatever you're doing on the Internet. Now fast
- 18:49Speaker 3: forward thirty years, what are the consequences. Today, the American
- 18:54Speaker 3: economy is fifty percent larger than the EU, So we
- 19:00Speaker 3: went from essentially one hundred percent to one hundred and
- 19:03Speaker 3: fifty percent. The biggest driver of that is the rise
- 19:08Speaker 3: of technology. You look at the Internet. Virtually every major
- 19:11Speaker 3: big tech company in the world is headquartered in the
- 19:13Speaker 3: United States and is driving massive job creation. Now, big
- 19:17Speaker 3: tech also has abuses, and I focused on that a lot,
- 19:19Speaker 3: and that's going to be a big focus of the
- 19:20Speaker 3: Commerce Committee as well. But that job creation, that wealth creation,
- 19:24Speaker 3: that innovation is hugely consequential. What Biden did he entered
- 19:30Speaker 3: an EO an executive order on AI that basically modeled
- 19:35Speaker 3: what the European Union did.
- 19:36Speaker 4: It was a heavy.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Handed government prior approval mechanism that I think if that
- 19:42Speaker 3: stayed the law, it would seed leadership to the rest
- 19:46Speaker 3: of the world and we would fall behind China and
- 19:49Speaker 3: the rest of the world in the development of AI.
- 19:51Speaker 3: I think that'd be catastrophic because AI is going to
- 19:54Speaker 3: be every bit as transformative at technology as the Internet was.
- 19:58Speaker 3: And I want America to leave at battle. And so
- 20:01Speaker 3: that is a big, big consequence for the Commerce Committee.
- 20:06Speaker 3: To other areas, I'll mention they're going to be huge priorities.
- 20:09Speaker 4: Energy.
- 20:10Speaker 3: Energy is massively important. You want to reduce inflation. Energy
- 20:14Speaker 3: as an input to just about every aspect of inflation.
- 20:17Speaker 3: You want jobs. America is the energy superpower of the world.
- 20:21Speaker 3: We need to be energy dominant. And Donald Trump that's
- 20:25Speaker 3: a huge priority for him, and that's going to be
- 20:27Speaker 3: a huge priority for me as chairman of the Commerce Committee.
- 20:30Speaker 3: And I'll say one other topic, and we'll talk about
- 20:34Speaker 3: this also in a subsequent podcast, but sports and college athletics.
- 20:38Speaker 3: You and I both love college sports. Right now, the
- 20:42Speaker 3: current world of college sports is the wild West, name
- 20:47Speaker 3: image and likeness, open transfer portals. It is I think
- 20:52Speaker 3: endangering the future and viability of college athletics. I think
- 20:57Speaker 3: Congress needs to step in and legislate. When the Democrats
- 21:00Speaker 3: were in the majority, it just wasn't a priority for them.
- 21:03Speaker 3: It will be a priority. We are going to address it.
- 21:05Speaker 3: As chairman. I can convene hearings. I'm in charge of
- 21:09Speaker 3: every hearing the Commerce Committee has. I invite the witnesses
- 21:13Speaker 3: for the hearings. I can call up markups. I can
- 21:16Speaker 3: decide what bills get marked up. And what bills don't
- 21:19Speaker 3: and it gives you the ability to drive an agenda
- 21:22Speaker 3: that is just qualitatively different.
- 21:25Speaker 2: That's going to be a very interesting topic, especially my
- 21:28Speaker 2: ears per cup as a former college athlete, because there
- 21:32Speaker 2: does have to be a happy medium. But you're right,
- 21:35Speaker 2: it has become the wild West. So how do we
- 21:37Speaker 2: make it where you also are protecting the athletes and
- 21:40Speaker 2: sports the integrity of the game. And that's going to
- 21:43Speaker 2: be something very fun to watch as we continue this
- 21:45Speaker 2: next year. I also want to ask you about the
- 21:48Speaker 2: Senate election, because my, oh my, did that blow up
- 21:53Speaker 2: on social media? And before we get to that, I
- 21:55Speaker 2: want to tell you real quick about my friends ever
- 21:57Speaker 2: at Blackout Coffee. If you're like me, you start your
- 22:00Speaker 2: warning off with a cup of coffee. Why settle for
- 22:02Speaker 2: an average cup of coffee? Or why settle for a
- 22:05Speaker 2: woke liberal cup of coffee. Now, when I said woke
- 22:08Speaker 2: and liberal, you probably thought of a couple of different
- 22:10Speaker 2: coffee brands. The coffee space is filled with woke companies
- 22:15Speaker 2: that are huge donors and supporters to Democrats. If you
- 22:19Speaker 2: don't want to have your coffee push that agenda, you
- 22:23Speaker 2: need to check out Blackout Coffee. Blackout Coffee is not,
- 22:26Speaker 2: by the way, average coffee. It is premium coffee. They
- 22:31Speaker 2: accept no compromise on taste or quality. If you want
- 22:36Speaker 2: to have the best cup of coffee your life, you
- 22:38Speaker 2: need to go right now, and I'm going to save
- 22:39Speaker 2: you money. To try Blackout Coffee. Go to Blackoutcoffee dot com,
- 22:42Speaker 2: slash verting. It's Blackoutcoffee dot com slash vertict. Use the
- 22:47Speaker 2: coupon code vertict for twenty percent off your first order.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Blackout Coffee is one hundred percent committed to conservative values
- 22:54Speaker 2: and that's why it was started. From the sourcing of
- 22:56Speaker 2: the beans, the roasting process, customers support, and shipping, they
- 23:00Speaker 2: embodied true American values and the best part is they
- 23:03Speaker 2: accept no compromise on taste or quality. So try it.
- 23:08Speaker 2: You're gonna get hooked. You're gonna love it. It's a
- 23:10Speaker 2: premium cup of coffee. Blackoutcoffee dot com, slash verdict, cubon
- 23:14Speaker 2: code vertict, twenty percent off your first order. Be awake
- 23:17Speaker 2: every day, not woke, but awake. Blackoutcoffee dot com slash
- 23:21Speaker 2: verdict promo code Verdict. So let's deal with the Senate
- 23:24Speaker 2: vote real quick. I got angry when I get angry,
- 23:27Speaker 2: I tweeted in all caps because there was a list
- 23:29Speaker 2: that was put out and this list was such a
- 23:33Speaker 2: joke because it had so many things that were wrong.
- 23:36Speaker 2: It had Thune voting for cornin. The list was, as
- 23:41Speaker 2: I said.
- 23:41Speaker 1: A lie.
- 23:42Speaker 2: I thought it was a lie to divide the Republican Party.
- 23:45Speaker 2: It was a lie to get Republicans to go after
- 23:48Speaker 2: one another. It wasn't an an accurate list. There was
- 23:52Speaker 2: a lot of them that were accurate, but that was
- 23:54Speaker 2: like captain obvious accuracy, like of course this person was
- 23:57Speaker 2: going to vote for this.
- 23:58Speaker 1: One at X, Y, and Z.
- 24:00Speaker 2: But the list itself, when you got down to it,
- 24:02Speaker 2: was a list that I think was just put out
- 24:04Speaker 2: there to rile up an anger Conservatives feeling like, oh,
- 24:09Speaker 2: they're already getting screwed after this election day, and they're
- 24:12Speaker 2: not listening to conservative voters. They're not listening to Magat supporters,
- 24:15Speaker 2: they're not listening to Trump supporters. And at the end
- 24:18Speaker 2: of the day, it was a lie and it was
- 24:20Speaker 2: done just to divide, and it made me furious.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Your reaction.
- 24:24Speaker 2: All right, So let's get into the Senate vote for
- 24:27Speaker 2: who was going to be the majority leader. And this
- 24:30Speaker 2: was a vote that really, I think took up a
- 24:34Speaker 2: lot of oxygen on social media and there were a
- 24:38Speaker 2: lot of people that had a lot of opinions about it.
- 24:40Speaker 2: So let's just talk about what actually happened and how
- 24:44Speaker 2: the debate went. And people were saying, it isn't even fair.
- 24:49Speaker 2: Is that a fair assessment? I don't think so. From
- 24:51Speaker 2: what I saw, I want you to tell to everybody
- 24:53Speaker 2: how this went down.
- 24:55Speaker 4: Sure.
- 24:55Speaker 3: So there were three candidates who were running for Majority leader,
- 24:58Speaker 3: and this is the first time we've had a maj
- 25:00Speaker 3: already a leader election in eighteen years. That was when
- 25:02Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell was elected eighteen years ago. We had a
- 25:07Speaker 3: contestant and a new leader elected this week. The three
- 25:10Speaker 3: candidates were John Thune. John Thune is the current Republican Whip,
- 25:15Speaker 3: so the number two official he was running. John Cornyan
- 25:21Speaker 3: was running, my fellow Texas Senator who was the previous
- 25:25Speaker 3: Republican whip. He had been the whip before Thun, and
- 25:28Speaker 3: the Republican Conference has term limits in place, so John
- 25:32Speaker 3: Cornyn spent six years as the whip and after six
- 25:34Speaker 3: years he had to step down his whip, so he
- 25:36Speaker 3: was whipped for six years and then Thune was is
- 25:38Speaker 3: the current whip and he's so the two of them
- 25:42Speaker 3: were running. And then the third candidate running was Rick Scott.
- 25:44Speaker 3: Rick Scott, Senator from Florida. And it was a very
- 25:50Speaker 3: contested election. A lot of the Trump Maga world got
- 25:54Speaker 3: behind Rick Scott, got very vocally behind Rick Scott.
- 25:58Speaker 4: I supported Rick Scott. I publicly supported Rick Scott.
- 26:02Speaker 3: And and I will tell you that the dynamics of
- 26:06Speaker 3: the election. So, so the way it works it is
- 26:09Speaker 3: you go into the election happens in the old Senate Chamber.
- 26:13Speaker 3: So the old Senate Chamber is where the Senate used
- 26:16Speaker 3: to meet before the current Senate Chamber was built. It's
- 26:19Speaker 3: a much smaller room. It's a historic room. It's where
- 26:23Speaker 3: many of the great lions of the Senate, like like
- 26:27Speaker 3: met and debated. And so so that's where we always
- 26:31Speaker 3: have our leader elections. And you're in there, and it's
- 26:33Speaker 3: it's it's senators are in there, and and what happens
- 26:37Speaker 3: is you have each of the three nominees. There are
- 26:41Speaker 3: nominating speeches. There's a senator who stands up and nominates
- 26:44Speaker 3: one of the three people. There's a second senator who
- 26:46Speaker 3: stands up and gives a seconding speech, and then the
- 26:49Speaker 3: person who's being nominated gives a speech. And so for
- 26:52Speaker 3: each of the three you had those speeches and it
- 26:56Speaker 3: took quite a while, I mean the speeches senators. Senators
- 26:59Speaker 3: are not known for their brevity, uh so they were
- 27:02Speaker 3: pretty long winded speeches. And then we had a few
- 27:05Speaker 3: questions and Senator to ask several questions. On Tuesday night
- 27:09Speaker 3: before the vote, we also had a forum that that
- 27:12Speaker 3: where we asked vigorous questions of all three of the candidates.
- 27:17Speaker 3: And then you vote. You vote, and it's by secret ballot.
- 27:20Speaker 3: They hand out these little little cards and you check
- 27:24Speaker 3: you checked either Thun, Cornn or Scott. So I checked Scott.
- 27:28Speaker 4: I voted.
- 27:29Speaker 3: And the way it works is that everyone votes and
- 27:34Speaker 3: you have to get a majority to be elected, but
- 27:37Speaker 3: whoever is third gets eliminated. So we had the first
- 27:41Speaker 3: vote and on the first vote, Rick Scott was third,
- 27:44Speaker 3: and so Rick Scott was eliminated. And then there was
- 27:47Speaker 3: a second round of balloting just between Thun and Cornyn,
- 27:51Speaker 3: and on the second round of balloting, Thun won, and
- 27:53Speaker 3: so Thune is now the majority leader.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Now, so what is that What is the purpose of
- 27:59Speaker 2: the secret ballot is that just so people can vote
- 28:01Speaker 2: their conscience and there's not so much you know, hoop a.
- 28:04Speaker 2: Is it to keep it more efficient? What's or is
- 28:07Speaker 2: it just tradition? What's behind that?
- 28:09Speaker 4: Look?
- 28:10Speaker 3: Some of it is because you've got to work with
- 28:11Speaker 3: these people. Remember the senate's a small place. There are
- 28:15Speaker 3: fifty three of us, and so you know, if you're
- 28:20Speaker 3: voting against the person who's your leader, that is a
- 28:24Speaker 3: small and awkward dynamic. So I would have liked the
- 28:29Speaker 3: ballot to be public. I would have absolutely supported making
- 28:32Speaker 3: it public. It's why I announced that I was voting
- 28:35Speaker 3: for Rick Scott, because I wanted to tell the voters.
- 28:38Speaker 3: But most of the Senators don't, so I don't know.
- 28:41Speaker 3: I know some of the centers, some of the senators
- 28:43Speaker 3: chose to say who they were voting for. But I'd
- 28:45Speaker 3: say at least half the senators I have no idea
- 28:47Speaker 3: how they voted. They didn't say, they haven't publicly said.
- 28:51Speaker 3: And there is a dynamic when you're dealing with a
- 28:54Speaker 3: small enough group of people that you've got to after
- 28:57Speaker 3: the election, you've got to turn around and work not
- 28:59Speaker 3: just with whoever won, but whoever lost. So I think
- 29:02Speaker 3: that's some of the history, it's always, to the best
- 29:05Speaker 3: of my knowledge, it has always been a secret ballot.
- 29:10Speaker 3: And because of that dynamic, and the other Senate leadership
- 29:15Speaker 3: votes are secret ballot as well. And look two years ago,
- 29:20Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, we had the first contested leadership
- 29:24Speaker 3: ballot in sixteen years and two years ago, Rick Scott
- 29:30Speaker 3: challenged Mitch McConnell, and I was the point of the spear.
- 29:34Speaker 3: So the beginning of that battle two years ago, the
- 29:38Speaker 3: very first thing that happened as I stood up and
- 29:40Speaker 3: I made a motion to delay the election for a month,
- 29:45Speaker 3: so we were voting two years.
- 29:47Speaker 1: We did a great show on this.
- 29:49Speaker 2: It's all coming back to me now that you can
- 29:51Speaker 2: go back and listen to, because I think, if I'm
- 29:54Speaker 2: not mistaken, we didn't like it two in the morning
- 29:57Speaker 2: after the voting had taken place, and you'd come out
- 29:59Speaker 2: and told this story. I would encourage everybody if you
- 30:01Speaker 2: want to go back and listen to this episode. Like
- 30:04Speaker 2: you said, it's like two years ago, and it was.
- 30:06Speaker 2: It was a big fight then, and like you said,
- 30:07Speaker 2: you were the one leading that the tip of the
- 30:09Speaker 2: spear on it.
- 30:10Speaker 3: Yep, And it was two years ago. It is always
- 30:13Speaker 3: the week after the election. Now, by the way, Republican
- 30:17Speaker 3: leadership does that because the people who vote are the
- 30:20Speaker 3: senators who will be the senators for the next two years.
- 30:23Speaker 3: So the brand new baby senators who were just elected
- 30:25Speaker 3: they vote. The senators who are retiring or leading the
- 30:29Speaker 3: Senate they don't vote. And part of the reason they
- 30:34Speaker 3: do that is because they want the brand new baby
- 30:38Speaker 3: senators not to know what they're doing, to be just
- 30:42Speaker 3: in their basement office, not to know where the men's
- 30:44Speaker 3: room is, and they don't want newly elected senators to
- 30:47Speaker 3: rock the vote. It's designed. It's actually a pretty cynical thing.
- 30:51Speaker 3: It's designed not to not to challenge the status quo.
- 30:55Speaker 3: So two years ago I made a motion, Look, two
- 31:00Speaker 3: should have been a fantastic election for Republicans. We should
- 31:03Speaker 3: have won the Senate. We should have we should have
- 31:05Speaker 3: grown our majority in the House. It should have been
- 31:06Speaker 3: a fantastic election. And it was a lousy election. And
- 31:10Speaker 3: I stood up and said, listen, we ought to delay
- 31:12Speaker 3: this vote by a month, and we ought to spend
- 31:16Speaker 3: the month next month talking about why we got our
- 31:18Speaker 3: asses kicked, like what's going wrong? And I turned to
- 31:22Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell i said Listen, for the last two years,
- 31:25Speaker 3: we had a handful of Republicans team up with the
- 31:27Speaker 3: Democrats to pass the Democrats' priorities. Now, maybe that's a
- 31:32Speaker 3: good idea. Someone here can make the argument why that's
- 31:34Speaker 3: a good idea. I think it's dumb as hell. But
- 31:36Speaker 3: if you want to make the argument it's a good idea.
- 31:38Speaker 3: We ought to talk about it. What I could tell
- 31:39Speaker 3: you that is objectively true is the Democrats never do that.
- 31:43Speaker 3: Like when we had Trump was president, we had a
- 31:46Speaker 3: Republican Senate, Republican House. There was not a single bill
- 31:49Speaker 3: we passed that consisted of all the Republicans and a
- 31:52Speaker 3: handful of Democrats joining us. They opposed everything, and by
- 31:55Speaker 3: the way, for the next two years, I think they
- 31:57Speaker 3: will as well. So I said, look, we ought to debate.
- 32:00Speaker 3: Whatever we did didn't work. We had are debated, and
- 32:03Speaker 3: so I laid out. I gave a forty five minute speech.
- 32:05Speaker 3: I looked at Mitch McConnell and I said, tell me,
- 32:08Speaker 3: over the next two years, what are you willing to
- 32:11Speaker 3: fight over? I said, listen, you and I may disagree.
- 32:15Speaker 3: There are a lot of things I think we should
- 32:16Speaker 3: fight over. They're not for you, but is there anything.
- 32:20Speaker 3: Is there one thing you're willing to fight on over
- 32:22Speaker 3: the next two years. By the way, Mitch refused to
- 32:25Speaker 3: answer that question. We ended up after I made the
- 32:28Speaker 3: motion to delay the vote. I ended up getting sixteen
- 32:31Speaker 3: votes for that motion. I needed twenty five, so we
- 32:34Speaker 3: had forty nine Republicans, so I needed twenty five for
- 32:38Speaker 3: a majority, So I fell nine votes short. Those sixteen
- 32:42Speaker 3: votes were the first votes ever cast against Mitch McConnell,
- 32:45Speaker 3: and that was very consequential.
- 32:47Speaker 4: After that, Rick Scott.
- 32:50Speaker 3: Because I failed to delay the election, Rick Scott ran
- 32:55Speaker 3: against Mitch.
- 32:56Speaker 4: I voted for Rick.
- 32:57Speaker 3: I was quite vocal about it, and Rick got ten votes,
- 33:01Speaker 3: and so that's what happened.
- 33:02Speaker 4: I was one of those ten.
- 33:03Speaker 3: By the way, after the votes, Mitch McConnell exacted retribution
- 33:09Speaker 3: on the senators who opposed him. So, for example, the
- 33:11Speaker 3: Commerce Committee, both Rick Scott and Mike Lee used to
- 33:16Speaker 3: be on the Commerce Committee, and Mitch McConnell uses his
- 33:18Speaker 3: authority as the GOP leader to throw them both off
- 33:22Speaker 3: the Commerce Committee. Eric Schmidt from Missouri, who also voted
- 33:26Speaker 3: against Mitch. Eric Schmidt wanted to be on Judiciary, and
- 33:29Speaker 3: Mitch used his authority to orchestrate blocking him from being
- 33:32Speaker 3: on Judiciary. So there was there was there were real
- 33:37Speaker 3: punitive measures that were implemented attacking the people that dared
- 33:42Speaker 3: stand up to McConnell. So this time around, Rick Scott
- 33:47Speaker 3: did better than he did two years ago. Two years
- 33:49Speaker 3: ago he got ten votes. This time he got thirteen votes,
- 33:52Speaker 3: so we picked up three more votes. I don't know
- 33:54Speaker 3: who those three more votes were. I was one of
- 33:58Speaker 3: those thirteen, as i'd been one of the ten. But
- 34:01Speaker 3: Rick did not prevail, and then then ultimately Thune prevailed
- 34:06Speaker 3: on the second ballot.
- 34:06Speaker 4: So Thune will be the majority leader going forward.
- 34:10Speaker 2: So let's talk about Thune for just a second. What
- 34:13Speaker 2: do people need to know about him that maybe they
- 34:15Speaker 2: don't know.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I like John Thune. I've worked with him.
- 34:20Speaker 3: I've worked with Thune, I've worked with Corn and I've
- 34:22Speaker 3: worked with Rick Scott. I mean, the Senate is a
- 34:24Speaker 3: small place. It's a collegial place. If you want to
- 34:27Speaker 3: actually accomplish anything, you've got to deal with and work
- 34:31Speaker 3: cooperatively with your colleagues. John Thune is from South Dakota.
- 34:35Speaker 3: You know, he's a tall, good looking college athlete. He
- 34:38Speaker 3: was a college basketball player. You know thuone and I,
- 34:43Speaker 3: you know, used to He works out every morning in
- 34:48Speaker 3: the gym and he's he's very fit. I would work
- 34:52Speaker 3: out at the same time he was, and it was
- 34:54Speaker 3: kind of embarrassing because he would lift a lot more
- 34:56Speaker 3: weight than I.
- 34:57Speaker 4: Could lift, and he would he would be like pumping
- 34:59Speaker 4: iron and it's sort of humbling to watch.
- 35:01Speaker 3: Thune because he's just, you know, he's a he's a
- 35:04Speaker 3: man in his early sixties who's in really good shape.
- 35:08Speaker 4: Look Thune.
- 35:10Speaker 3: I was not surprised thun one, because he's very well
- 35:15Speaker 3: liked by his colleagues. Thune is affable, he's a good guy.
- 35:19Speaker 3: He's just he's not a jerk. He's not he's everyone
- 35:23Speaker 3: likes him. It's just I mentioned before, the Senate is
- 35:27Speaker 3: a little bit like a junior high. You know, Thune
- 35:31Speaker 3: would win the class president election. It's and and a
- 35:35Speaker 3: lot of it is the kind of small, little personal
- 35:39Speaker 3: dynamics that play out on that. But but as I said,
- 35:41Speaker 3: I was not surprised thun One. I will say a
- 35:44Speaker 3: lot of the Trump world was was freaking out, saying, oh,
- 35:47Speaker 3: thun hates Donald Trump and he's going to oppose everything
- 35:50Speaker 3: Trump wants.
- 35:51Speaker 1: To do.
- 35:51Speaker 3: I think those concerns were overstated. Listen, John Thune is
- 35:56Speaker 3: majority leader in every Senator is excite that we have
- 36:01Speaker 3: a Republican White House, Republican Senate, Republican House, and we
- 36:04Speaker 3: are really focused on delivering results and delivering on our
- 36:09Speaker 3: promises to the voters. And so I think Thune as
- 36:13Speaker 3: leader is going to focus on working very closely with
- 36:16Speaker 3: President Trump to confirm his cabinet appointments to move forward. Now,
- 36:22Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily mean that the Senate is going to
- 36:25Speaker 3: be a rubber stamp for one hundred percent of everything
- 36:28Speaker 3: that comes from the White House. And it's not the
- 36:31Speaker 3: Senate's job to be a rubber stamp for everything that
- 36:33Speaker 3: comes from the White House. Under the Constitution, the Senate
- 36:36Speaker 3: is supposed to have a role, a role of on nominations,
- 36:40Speaker 3: advice and consent, a role of check and balance. But
- 36:43Speaker 3: I can tell you that the sort of folks and
- 36:46Speaker 3: I had multiple calls from Trump's team very worried, Okay,
- 36:51Speaker 3: is Thon going to fight us in everything we're doing?
- 36:53Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, I no.
- 36:56Speaker 3: I I. So today I had an hour long meeting
- 37:03Speaker 3: uh with with Thun as the new majority leader, and
- 37:05Speaker 3: with all the committee chairs and the entire meeting was
- 37:09Speaker 3: talking about, Okay, how are we going to move forward
- 37:12Speaker 3: with with with tax reform, with extending the Trump tax cuts,
- 37:16Speaker 3: with with with regulatory reform, with unleashing energy, with securing
- 37:20Speaker 3: the border. How are we going to move the legislative
- 37:22Speaker 3: agenda so we can deliver big, big wins uh in
- 37:28Speaker 3: in in.
- 37:28Speaker 4: The next year.
- 37:29Speaker 3: And and that was that was the focus from Thune
- 37:32Speaker 3: and every committee chairman. So so I I think I understand. Look,
- 37:37Speaker 3: I voted for Rick Scott because I think Rick was
- 37:40Speaker 3: offering the greatest change, But at the end of the day,
- 37:44Speaker 3: to prevail, you've got to be able to get a
- 37:45Speaker 3: majority of the Republican senators, and Rick did not.
- 37:49Speaker 2: Yeah, great point, And I love that you you explained
- 37:52Speaker 2: it the way that you did, because there were so
- 37:54Speaker 2: many people that had questions and want to know how
- 37:56Speaker 2: it went down and what happened. And I hope that
- 37:58Speaker 2: answered a lot of those questions. If you've got a daughter,
- 38:01Speaker 2: if you've got a granddaughter, you've got a son, a grandson.
- 38:05Speaker 2: Maybe they're eighteen, but they're not twenty one. Maybe they're
- 38:08Speaker 2: at school right now and they can't have a firearm,
- 38:11Speaker 2: but you want to know they can protect themselves. Maybe
- 38:13Speaker 2: you have a wife, or a mother in law or
- 38:16Speaker 2: a sister in law, and you say, I want them
- 38:18Speaker 2: to be able to have something to protect themselves more
- 38:20Speaker 2: than just pepper spray. Well, maybe they don't feel comfortable
- 38:23Speaker 2: carrying a firearm yet, or maybe they can't carry a
- 38:26Speaker 2: firearm where they work. That is where a company comes
- 38:30Speaker 2: in that can help you tremendously. It is called Berna.
- 38:35Speaker 2: Berna is not only an incredible less lethal pistol launcher,
- 38:41Speaker 2: but it can actually save two lives when it's used.
- 38:44Speaker 2: It's a great compliment to owning a firearm. Now I've
- 38:47Speaker 2: had to use a firearm to save my life. I
- 38:49Speaker 2: had to pull the trigger, and I can tell you
- 38:52Speaker 2: knowing that you can protect in your fend yourself is
- 38:54Speaker 2: so important and that's why I have bought these for
- 38:57Speaker 2: so many of my family members.
- 38:58Speaker 1: It is legal in all fifty states.
- 39:01Speaker 2: There are no permits or background checks needed, and like
- 39:04Speaker 2: I said, not only do I own these, but my
- 39:07Speaker 2: family has them as well. Burna is designed for easy
- 39:11Speaker 2: use by all age groups eighteen older. It is a
- 39:14Speaker 2: launcher that has powerful deterrence like tear gas and kinetic
- 39:18Speaker 2: rounds with a sixty foot range, putting much more distance
- 39:23Speaker 2: between you and a threat than tear gas or pepper
- 39:27Speaker 2: spray or a taser. And that's why I love the
- 39:30Speaker 2: Burner launcher. One shot can incapacitate attackers from up to
- 39:34Speaker 2: forty minutes, and it's used by government agencies as well
- 39:37Speaker 2: and law enforcement around the country. Over a half million
- 39:41Speaker 2: units have been sold and they have more than fourteen thousand,
- 39:45Speaker 2: four and a half star reviews. Now you need to
- 39:48Speaker 2: see the videos and once you see it, you'll understand
- 39:50Speaker 2: why I have this, and I'm a huge advocate for them.
- 39:53Speaker 2: Go to burna dot com slash verdict. Not only will
- 39:58Speaker 2: you get to see what this launcher do and this
- 40:00Speaker 2: it's amazing, but you're also gonna get teen percent off
- 40:03Speaker 2: your purchase. That's by RNA dot com slash verdict for
- 40:08Speaker 2: ten percent off b y r NA dot com slash verdict. Finally, Senator,
- 40:15Speaker 2: there was some news, and I'm glad that this is
- 40:18Speaker 2: a successful story in the sense that we got a terrorist,
- 40:21Speaker 2: but it's also a very concerning story coming out of
- 40:25Speaker 2: Houston of a man planning a attack, an ISIS style attack,
- 40:31Speaker 2: and the FBI's arrested a man for direct ties to
- 40:34Speaker 2: ISIS and a terror plot.
- 40:36Speaker 3: Well, that's right, it was a very disturbing story. A
- 40:39Speaker 3: texasman was arrested on Thursday after he attempted to support
- 40:45Speaker 3: ISIS and plan a terrorist attack on American soil. And
- 40:50Speaker 3: all of this happened in Houston, Texas. So twenty eight
- 40:53Speaker 3: year old by the name of a Nas Sayid, and
- 40:56Speaker 3: he was searching for ways to commit violent acts on
- 40:59Speaker 3: behalf of the Islamic State in Houston. He's been charged
- 41:04Speaker 3: with attempting to provide material support to a terrorist group.
- 41:08Speaker 4: Uh.
- 41:08Speaker 3: He was arrested as an apartment complex, and he said
- 41:13Speaker 3: while he while while in custody, he admitted to researching
- 41:18Speaker 3: how to conduct an attack on local military recruiting centers.
- 41:21Speaker 3: He offered his home as a sanctuary for ISIS operatives.
- 41:24Speaker 3: He bragged that he would commit a nine to eleven
- 41:27Speaker 3: style attack if he had the resources. And he was
- 41:30Speaker 3: attempting to produce ISIS propaganda and and and that this
- 41:34Speaker 3: is a very dangerous world and and and I will
- 41:38Speaker 3: say it has gotten only more dangerous after four years
- 41:41Speaker 3: of weakness from Joe Biden, Kamala Harrison, the White House.
- 41:45Speaker 3: I am glad that that that this alleged terrorist was arrested,
- 41:49Speaker 3: that that a terrorist attack was stopped, and I think
- 41:52Speaker 3: it is critically important going forward that we be vigorous.
- 41:55Speaker 3: I I am deeply worried. We've talked a lot of
- 41:58Speaker 3: this podcast about my belief that we are at a
- 42:02Speaker 3: greater risk of a major terrorist attack today than we've
- 42:05Speaker 3: been any time since nine to eleven, and that this
- 42:10Speaker 3: arrest this week just underscores that risk.
- 42:13Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is the reason why it was such
- 42:14Speaker 2: an election your issue. And again, this is good news
- 42:18Speaker 2: that the person was caught, but it's also concerning to
- 42:21Speaker 2: see this happening after an Afghan man in Oklahoma ploted
- 42:24Speaker 2: an election day tarror attack in the US on behalf
- 42:26Speaker 2: of ice as the Justice Department saying that as well.
- 42:29Speaker 2: So we're seeing more of these headlines. Let's hope we
- 42:32Speaker 2: keep getting them before they're able to act. Don't forget
- 42:34Speaker 2: we do this show Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Hit that
- 42:37Speaker 2: subscriber auto download button so you do not miss an episode,
- 42:42Speaker 2: and also grab my podcast on those in between days,
- 42:45Speaker 2: the Ben Ferguson Podcasts. I'll keep you updated on the
- 42:47Speaker 2: latest breaking news there as well, and the Senator. I
- 42:50Speaker 2: will see you back here on Saturday for our week
- 42:53Speaker 2: in review.