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It's Usyk - Dubois, Bam - Cafu, & Pacquiao - Barrios · Boxing B-Sides

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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
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Let's get into this shit. The Boxing B -Sides
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are back, baby. Up in your ears, I'm joined by
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the one and only Alex. How are you doing, bud?
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Doing great. How about you? Living the pizza
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dream. Well, what pizza dream am I talking about?
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You'll have to go to Patreon to find out. Shanada,
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how are you? I am good. It's raining cats and
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dogs here today, and I got so wet walking to
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work today. It's gross. nothing worse than wet
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clothes all day oh being yeah having to walk
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around in them too yeah oh shit let's just quickly
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some mma stuff extending the the branch of friendship
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to the ultimate effing casuals uh coming up this
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weekend there's the pfl champion series in africa
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so PFL, the way PFL is structured, it has regional
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scenes like in Middle East, North Africa, the
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Arab world. There's Europe, and now they're breaking
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into Africa. So I think this is the kickoff for
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that. So expect to see more Francis Ngannou at
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the forefront since he's like the COO of that,
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I think. But good fights. At least two of them.
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Johnny Eblen. Versus Costello Van Stenis. That
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should be enjoyable. Evelyn comes to Rumble.
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And Dakota Ditcheva. So the women's flyweight.
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If you don't like grappling, you're going to
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love Dakota Ditcheva. She just throws a shitload
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of punches. And then throws knees and elbows
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in as well. It's pretty fun. Nice. and UFC 318
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at the Smoothie King Center. Excellent name.
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This one's in New Orleans. It's the retirement
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of Dustin Poirier. He's going out with a bang,
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fighting Max Holloway. This should be fireworks
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as well. How are we going to get the Smoothie
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King? Oh, yeah. The Smoothie King Center. What
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news is out there? I know some shit just popped
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up, but I didn't track it. We really need to
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make Vom our news guy. Yeah. I've been meaning
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to talk to him, because the way he does the PDF,
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or not PDF, the Excel for the Pick League, it's
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way too phenomenal. That's something he does
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for a living, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, that was
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what he had mentioned to me when we talked about
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it briefly. Taylor Serrano 3 averaged 6 million
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viewers. That seems pretty good. That is really
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good. That's really cool. And for a women's fight
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too? Yeah, exactly. That's amazing for women's
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boxing. It was not pay -per -view though, right?
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Just regular Netflix? Yeah, just Netflix subscription.
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I really think they'd get more eyes on boxing
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if they made less cards pay -per -view. Yeah.
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It's unfortunate that one of the ones this weekend,
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well, two of them are fucking pay -per -view.
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Well, I agree to a sense, but I think it also
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really matters the platform. I think if boxing
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wants to thrive again, it should be on a more
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popular platform like Netflix or even HBO Max,
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anything like that, you know? And no pay -per
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-view as well. That would bring a lot of eyes.
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Yeah, like it used to just be on TV when boxing
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was popular. That's true. It was. Oh, what the
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hell is this? Gabriel Rosado is fighting on August
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2nd on Marv Nation? Yeah, Marv Nation is kind
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of a... I thought they were a joke, but they've
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turned themselves into something serious. Ish.
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Yeah, serious -ish. I kind of respect the grind,
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you know? Yeah. They got some people, you know?
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Yeah. I just don't want Gabe fighting anymore.
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Just go be a commentator. He's good at it. He
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is good at it. He's got a great voice. I haven't
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seen him at many jobs recently, so actually,
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maybe he's got a fight. Make some money a little
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bit. Make some bills. No, he was commentating.
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I guess not the big cards. They put him on the
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smaller DAZN cards, though. That's what I'm saying.
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I haven't seen him on the bigger ones. Because
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he used to be pretty frequently on the Golden
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Boy cards. Yeah, that's true. Now I barely even
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see him. He's on the very obscure ones. i'm not
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seeing anything new just a lot of talk of the
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cards that just passed did uh did you guys talk
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about gervonta's crash out on this one we have
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not i know me and you talked about it but alex
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what do you think about tank being mad his toddler
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is gay well that's a bunch of layers to unfold
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with that whole situation i will say however
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just The whole situation going down in general
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is horrible. But it's not like it has happened
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in the past. Well, this is kind of his third
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strike, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, this is pretty
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much expected from Javante, which is really sad,
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honestly, with the image that gives him. But
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at the same time, that's something that we shouldn't
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encourage. Oh, no, like, definitely not encouraging.
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I think it's one of the dumbest reasons to crash
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out I've heard in a very long time. Is that even
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true, that you crashed out because a toddler
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was gay? Is that actually true? That's what the
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baby mama says. I did go and find, like, actual
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articles where she's quoted as saying that's
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the reason. That's just, that's nuts, dude. So
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he's got to get some help. I guess still kind
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of hearsay because it's her word. It's just her
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word. But I mean, I could see it. I mean, yeah,
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I mean, he's done in the past multiple times.
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I believe her for sure. Yeah. I guess he's going
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to be ducking Roshi again. Oh, 100 percent. He
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doesn't want to try to avenge his L. I'm not
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even trying to be funny. I mean, sometimes I
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just feel like boxers do shit just to get out
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of a fight, you know? I don't know. You guys
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ever think of that? No, I definitely think that
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sometimes. Yeah. I don't know. But I condemn
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him. I hope he gets help somehow. But I don't
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know. I don't want to go off on a Gervonta rant
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right now. Fair enough. Yeah, at least let's
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see how it develops a little bit more. Yeah.
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We'll talk a little more later on. Austin...
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Ammo Williams needs a new opponent for this weekend.
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It's... Change your pick league picks to knockout.
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I think Lom said he was gonna just scrap that
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whole fight. Yeah. Reasonable. I haven't done
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my picks yet. This is a hard week. A lot of close
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fights. There's a lot of fights. I don't know
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who the people are, so I just have to pick a
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name. Yeah, I don't know who Usyk and Dubois
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are. I don't know who Ham and Toppio are. Fucking
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Ham and Eggers. Who the fuck is Pacquiao? That
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undercard, though, for Usyk -Dubois is not great.
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No. Like, other than those two and Akoli, I...
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don't know who anyone is it's pretty atrocious
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for a pay -per -view as well yeah that one i'm
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surprised is a full price pay -per -view it's
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not worth it well it would make sense for the
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pay -per -view being like the uk however for
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the united states i don't think anybody's gonna
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pay for that you're just gonna legally stream
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it unfortunately i may have paid for it when
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i got ring three because it came it was like
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50 off The bundle? Yeah, so might as well. Might
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as well. Support Usyk as he heads off into retirement,
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hopefully. Hopefully. I doubt this. We'll talk
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about it right now, but I doubt this is going
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to be his retirement fight. So yeah, we'll see
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if Admiral Williams comes up with anything. I'll
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probably post on the socials or something. Once
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we get word of a new opponent. If we get a new
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opponent. But this is his fight. Since he's not
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fighting anymore, I guess we can kind of get
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into it now. This is his fight lining up. This
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is a lineup for Janabek. Crazy, actually. That
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is absolutely insane. Ammo Williams gets fucking
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murdered if he fights Janabek. He already got
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murdered by Shiraz. I would say that Janabek
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does worse. Yeah. Faster, for sure. But we'll
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see with that. If he even fights Janabek, you
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know, because you know how they always dig Janabek.
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Janabek's good. And the casuals don't know who
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the fuck he is. So the risk -reward is not there.
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It's actually a shame that they haven't marketed
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him well. I feel like he would be a perfect Riyadh
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season fighter. He's exciting. And top rank isn't
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doing business with Riyadh, as far as I know.
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They are. They do some. They have Abdullah and
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Norman fighting on the same card. Oh, you're
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right. They do work with Riyadh. In a way, it's
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kind of top rank. Half. Half and half. It is
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Eye of the Tiger. That is kind of a different
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situation. You guys are right. Let's get into
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the fucking recaps here. Alright. Jack Catterall
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versus Harlem Eubank. Pre -seeded by Joe Cordina.
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Getting a nice little win. Other than that, I
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don't see anybody. Sky Nicholson was on the card,
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so that's fun. She got a knockout. Ready? Yeah.
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Good for Mrs. Hearn here. I think they're on
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the out. I think Eddie's wife maybe put a stop
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to that. No. Nah. Nah, there's a lot less pictures
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of them together and stuff. I think Eddie's wife
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was like, at least be more discreet. If you're
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gonna fucking dishonor me. Yeah. At least pretend
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you're hiding it. Joe Cordina was a UD. but he
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cruised WBO. I thought Cordina looked good. Yeah,
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he's up at 135 now, so it's kind of a tough ask
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for him to get into a title picture. He's got
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this WBO one lined up, so what, Abdullah Mason
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versus Sam Noakes. We have a pretty good idea
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of how that's going to go. I don't see Cordina
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having too much success over Abdullah Mason.
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Maybe better than Sandbox. Cordina versus Noakes
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after might be cool. Yeah, that's not bad. They're
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both British. Who put the British audience? I
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don't know if I'm going to watch that too much.
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I like Joe Cordina. I'm not sure why, but I do.
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He's fun. Don't kid yourself, Alex. You know
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you're going to be up on Saturday morning watching
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it with the rest of us. All the other degenerates.
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You're right. You're right. And heading off...
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What the hell was that? To finish it off, Jack
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Catterall versus Harlem Eubank. That was a sloppy
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fight until that weird situation with the cuts.
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Yeah. Did you watch this one, Alex? The Harlem...
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I didn't have the opportunity to. Ah. So, Jack
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Catterall did the Tank Davis and ran up to his
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corner in the middle of the fight and it came
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up and, like, white blood off his face. It was
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crazy. Well, I don't like this. It's a new trend.
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Yeah, fighters need to start getting disqualified,
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I think. Yeah, it's starting. Starting. Well,
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I mean, the rule's pretty clear. I mean, change
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it to allow the coaches to be up on the apron
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like a tag team partner the whole time. Just,
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like, waving the towel at them. Like, if you
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need a brush off, come on and get one. Rubbing
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a little Vaseline if they can get far enough
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away to avoid punches for two minutes. Yeah.
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People just call in timeouts so they can wipe
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sweat out of their eyes. God, that's just completely
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ridiculous. At least for this, it was blood.
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It's a little bit more understandable than...
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Yeah, I bet you Tim Zhu wanted to call timeout
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so he could wipe blood off his face. Jesus. So,
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the weird situation for Alex, for you, since
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you weren't able to see it. They had a very nasty
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headbutt, and both of them came away with cuts.
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Jack Catterall's was considerably worse. But
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Harlem Eubanks still had one. Not the worst cut
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you've ever seen. They go back to the corners.
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And then the referee has both doctors check both
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fighters. Now, Jack Catterall, like to the cut
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man's credit, he did a really good job with it.
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And the doctor decided that the considerably
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worse cut was good to go. If you want to continue,
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go ahead. But then Harlem Eubanks cut his doc
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stops the fight. for who knows what the fuck
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reason. Well, I'm 100 % sure that Eubanks Dr.
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Cut stopped the fight for Catterall's Cut, and
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I don't know how the fuck that works, but...
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It's all very confusing. Yeah, it was all very
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confusing. The commentators were confused for
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a while, too. I don't think anybody really understood
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what the fuck was happening. She stopped it for
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Catterall's Cut? Well... I mean, she must have,
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right? Yeah. Eubanks cut wasn't bad enough. No,
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it wasn't. Like Eubanks cut was pretty reasonable
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for, for boxing cuts. It wasn't in a bad spot.
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It was like above the eye, but kind of out to
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the corner. Catterall just like opened up his
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whole eyelid. It was pretty gross. Yeah, like
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that one where you can kind of see the fat underneath.
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It was a bad cut. Yeah, it was pretty nasty.
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But just a confusing situation. I don't understand
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how the doctors ran that one. Also, Jack Catterall
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still sucks. He's not very good. He's kind of
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boring. No, I don't like watching Jack Catterall.
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Like, to be honest. I don't think anybody does.
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Like, I don't know any Catterall fans that aren't
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just because they're from his hometown. If anybody
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honestly told me that, like, Jack Catterall was
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their favorite fighter and they didn't know him
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personally or have some connection, I would...
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I would be very shocked and confused as to why
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the fuck. I was thinking confusion. I might know
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one person. I know one person, but... Really?
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One person. Who's genuinely a fan of his? They
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might be. They might be. Are you talking about
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Lynn? Lynn is not a fan. Okay, because she's
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like a fan of whoever's British. Yeah. I don't
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think specifically Caterall. Specifically anti
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-Caterall. I also wasn't really aware that Harlem
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Eubank is related to the other Eubanks. He's
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the cousin of Chris. Chris. The other guy. Is
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there more than just those two? I think there's
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one more Eubank. Are you sure? Huh. If I'm thinking
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the right person. That's already a little bit
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more time than this card kind of deserves. Yeah,
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are going to be pretty stacked. We don't need
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filler today. I'll tell you that. We do not need
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filler today. Yeah, I don't think so either.
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All right. I think my mushroom cap is fucking
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peaking here. I'm feeling good. I'm locked in,
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baby. Previews. Man, it is a busy fucking weekend.
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There's two... One and a half good cards on the
25:36
MMA side. And then there's these three here.
25:40
Starting with the earliest. Queensberry on DAZN.
25:46
We were talking about this being a pay -per -view.
25:49
And if it deserves to be one. At Wembley Arena.
25:53
There's a bunch of shit on here that I don't
25:55
recognize. So I'm going straight to the co -main.
25:58
Lawrence Okoli versus Kevin Lorena. Yeah, if
26:04
you know who Lorenzo Coley is, then you probably
26:06
already know more about him than I do. I've seen
26:09
a few of his fights, but goddammit, is he boring.
26:13
Yeah. One -two clinch? Yeah, the old Vladimir
26:18
Klitschko method, except no power behind it.
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Pretty sure he actually is named one of the most
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boring boxers of boxing. Yeah, wouldn't surprise
26:31
me. If he was in the top five, most boring. He
26:36
probably takes the cake now, considering last
26:39
week's performance. I don't know if we're going
26:42
to talk about this podcast or the next podcast.
26:43
That would be three, but... That'll be on the
26:46
next one. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Lawrence
26:50
Okoli. Have fun with that. Oleksandr Usyk versus
26:54
Daniel Dubois. Are you both... Who do you got
26:58
winning, Alex? Oh, Lord. So that's the hard thing,
27:02
because I do, I love both of you guys. I love
27:05
both of them, because Dubois, I've seen real
27:09
heart from him these last couple fights. I've
27:12
been in full support as well. But it's Usyk,
27:15
man, come on. He's the king of the heavyweight
27:18
division right now. He already beat Dubois. The
27:21
only way I see Dubois winning is with a knockout.
27:24
And I also feel like Usyk's going to win by decision
27:29
as well. I don't think he's going to win with
27:31
my knockout again. I feel like Dan Dubois has
27:33
improved a little bit. But I feel like I just
27:36
had a sinking feeling in me that Dubois is going
27:38
to aim for the body. He's going to go straight
27:41
for the body the whole time instead of setting
27:43
up traps up top, you know? That's what Leo says,
27:47
too. Yeah, that was my pick. The young lion's
27:52
going to figure it out. It's a tough ask, though.
27:56
I've been using this one. Usyk's going to do
28:00
Usyk things. And no one can figure out Usyk things.
28:04
No one has yet to figure it out. Usyk is very
28:09
good at adjusting. That's part of what makes
28:11
him so good. But I do think Dubois is better.
28:16
I was getting some flack in the chat for that.
28:18
People are like, based on what? And I was like,
28:20
I don't know. You think Dubois is better than
28:22
Usyk? I think Dubois is better than he was in
28:26
their first fight. He's shown improvement. I
28:29
agree. Considerable improvement. Yeah, I forget
28:33
who it was, but somebody was saying that was
28:36
a bad take. That's a pretty good take, actually.
28:41
Yeah, that's pretty reasonable. Yeah, he's shown
28:44
some great improvement. I would say he's, besides
28:46
Usyk, he'd probably be the best guy in the division,
28:48
in my personal opinion right now. Yeah, I do
28:52
think this is one and two. Yeah. Obviously, you
28:55
have guys like Mosley Talma, but he's not there
28:57
yet now. He's going to come up. I believe he'll
29:00
be there soon. A couple years, but right now,
29:03
Dubois is the best in the division. However,
29:09
I would say that Dubois has got a pretty good
29:13
shot, though. And I think, honestly, the wait
29:15
for Dubois to win might be surprising, but I
29:19
think it's just to bring it to Usyk. You know,
29:21
I'm kind of dumb to say, but if you just barrage
29:26
Usyk with just nonstop, nonstop aggression, I
29:30
think that's the way you could. Because he's
29:31
also got pretty good power. Pretty great power,
29:34
actually. So I think if he lands a couple on
29:37
Usyk and, you know, just gives it his all, I
29:42
think he could win by knockout. He needs to win
29:44
by knockout. Yeah, I don't see a Dubois decision.
29:48
I don't either. I think Usyk outboxes him, and
29:52
Dubois' only chance is, like, landing a big shot.
29:56
Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. You're right.
29:59
I agree with you. However, they can also rob
30:02
Usyk. It is a Queensberry card. He's a Queensberry
30:04
fighter. Usyk is not a Queensberry fighter. He's
30:07
at the end of his reign. You know, you never
30:10
know what they could do. This is boxing, bro.
30:12
Yeah, they might just. I don't think they'll
30:18
rob Usyk. I don't think they'll do that. They've
30:21
done worse. Yeah, they have. And it's boxing.
30:25
It is boxing. You can't just say, you know what
30:27
I mean? It's happened many times in the past.
30:30
If I were to watch that, I wouldn't be surprised.
30:36
If I were to see it live, I would not be surprised
30:37
at all. I would be a little surprised if they
30:40
rob Usyk. He's too popular. But the point of
30:48
him being at the end of his career, though, I
30:51
think that's what makes it seem more of a viable
30:55
possibility. Fair enough. If he had five years
31:02
more left, if he had five years to fight, I think
31:05
they wouldn't rob him. But since he's at the
31:06
end of his reign, he's making it known. He's
31:08
at the end of his reign. I feel like they would
31:11
probably like all the titles in -house. You know
31:16
what I mean? Because this is their chance. Fair.
31:20
Yeah. Otherwise, if Usyk wins, all the titles
31:23
get spread out amongst all these promotional
31:25
companies. And it's going to take years to get
31:28
them all back. I do like when the titles split,
31:32
actually. Having one undisputed champion, it
31:35
makes the division so slow. It makes the division
31:39
slow, yes. But the promoters like when a champion
31:43
does have... all the titles because it makes
31:45
every fight matter with those champions no i
31:49
i know what you're saying and i don't disagree
31:51
i just mean me personally i would prefer if they
31:54
scattered to the four corners and they had to
31:56
go like collect them like the dragon balls oh
31:59
yeah i 100 agree yeah i like the same the same
32:03
approach like when canelo's gone i'll be happy
32:07
much to love him i'll be happy because that means
32:11
the division is free Canelo's also been having
32:14
just boring fights lately. Oh yeah. Usyk at least
32:19
is fighting the best of the best consistently.
32:22
Like Usyk is doing what a unified champion should
32:24
do. I like the way when Inoue moved up from 118.
32:33
Even though it might be a bad example just because
32:37
all of the belts ended up in Japan anyway. But
32:42
that's not in a way. Yeah, it's not his fault.
32:47
Usyk moving up from Cruiserweight. It's another
32:50
one. It's cool for it to have an apex and then
32:55
to break back out. And then somebody has to recollect
33:00
them, like you said. I would say probably the
33:03
best example right now we have is when Charlo
33:04
moved up. Bacchanal were undisputed at 168. All
33:09
the titles were spread out. And now we have a
33:12
fire division. On fire. Yeah, absolutely. So
33:17
it's actually amazing when the title's spread
33:19
out. Yeah, the power vacuum that it leaves. Yeah.
33:27
Gonna skip. Gonna go to the bottom of the list.
33:32
Matchroom, also on DAZN. At the Star. At the
33:37
Frisco. The star at the Frisco in Frisco, Texas.
33:41
What a name. Good stuff. Much better than Smoothie
33:46
King. Yeah, 100%. I'm excited for this fight.
33:52
Or this card, I mean. There's some good fights
33:55
on here. Yeah, good one to watch out for if you're
33:58
not paying attention to Nishant Dev. He's an
34:01
up -and -coming Indian fighter. I think he was
34:04
an Olympian. He'll be fighting Omar Rosales,
34:08
Omari Jones. There's another amateur standout.
34:13
He's fighting Alfredo Blanco. What's that guy's
34:17
record, Alfredo Blanco? 24 and 14. That's not
34:22
horrible. A real journeyman. Yeah, for his fourth
34:26
fight? Yeah, it's not bad. Super experienced.
34:32
He knows how to make it grimy, I bet. Sure. Diego
34:38
Pacheco versus Trevor McCombie. Diego needs to
34:43
win this for the culture, I'll tell you that.
34:44
Yeah, I was trying to figure out how to say that.
34:47
Diego needs to win for the culture. We need you
34:52
right now, dude. Yeah, because if he loses to
34:55
fucking Trevor McCombie, that's going to be horrible.
34:58
He's going to get fucking... I don't want to
35:01
say it. I wasn't going to say it, but... Isn't
35:06
Pacheco American? Like, wasn't he born in the
35:08
States? That does not matter. That doesn't matter.
35:10
That doesn't matter. Fair enough. Fair enough.
35:13
It's happening anyway. Leo, it looks like, for
35:16
Leo, it looks like his background is in his room,
35:17
but he's actually in the attic. Yeah, in the
35:21
quiet. And Frank style. Yeah. Can't like that
35:26
right now. Diego Pacheco, is, Alex, I want to
35:33
ask you first. How do you think Diego Pacheco
35:36
is going to react to Trevor McCombie? Because
35:39
McCombie has some pretty solid experience, like
35:41
world title experience. And Diego Pacheco is
35:45
still pretty young. I would say that he's going
35:50
to do what he's always done. He's going to go
35:52
out there and do the Benavidez Senior Special.
35:55
Just kind of mong out a little bit. You know
35:58
what I mean? Yeah, a little more energy never
36:00
hurt. Yeah, exactly. He's still young to where
36:03
he has been refined. And honestly, with the training
36:06
camp he's in right now, or with the trainer he's
36:08
with, I doubt he'll get much better. Because
36:12
he's no Benavidez, you know. Right. In my opinion.
36:15
And so I think that, I think he'll knock out
36:18
Trevor McCombie. As Trevor McCombie was knocked
36:21
out by Kayla Plant. Someone who historically
36:23
hasn't had much knockout power. However, I think
36:28
it'll still be kind of a Grammy fight. And I
36:31
think Trevor McCombie, how tall is Trevor McCombie?
36:34
Like six foot, 5 '11", somewhere around there?
36:39
Six foot, according to BoxRec. And Cech was,
36:43
what, 6 '3", I believe, so he does have the height
36:46
advantage, I believe the reach advantage as well,
36:48
so it would be a hard fight on paper, but I see
36:55
it's not going to go past round eight. Round
36:58
eight. It's a five -inch reach advantage. That's
37:04
pretty fucking steep. That is. That is a lot.
37:09
Man, I think he finishes it sooner than eight.
37:12
I was a little about to say right now, I think
37:14
he finishes it by around five. Five to seven.
37:22
Yeah, somewhere around there. I think it's going
37:28
to be a fun fight. I think it's going to be a
37:30
bit of a banger. Neither one of these guys is
37:34
going to back up much. You know, I'm surprised
37:39
that there hasn't been much media about that
37:44
fight itself. I feel like a good way to sell
37:49
that fight would be, you know, obviously kind
37:51
of on the nose, you know. Play up to the political
37:53
landscape? Yeah, but... I'm surprised they haven't
37:57
done that. Yeah, me too. That would be pretty
38:01
freaking funny. Is McCombie as right wing as
38:06
he looks? I don't think he said that much stuff.
38:09
He wears all the gear. He has a scarf and shit.
38:12
He has the mullet. He's a glazer. But I will
38:19
say it would be funny to see Diego Pacheco on
38:24
a video where it says Humble Mexican boxer, or
38:27
Mexican boxer humbles racist, racist opponent
38:32
from Motividia. From Motividia. That would have
38:36
been perfect, but, you know, missed opportunity
38:39
to get 500 to 1 ,000 views on a Diego Pacheco
38:42
fight. Oh, shit. Emma Williams, as we said, is
38:50
looking for a new opponent. Leads us with Bam
38:55
and Kafu. I'm not sure how we talked about this
38:59
one on Boxing Before Dark. Yeah. Don't sleep
39:03
on Kafu. Don't sleep on Kafu. I do think Bam
39:06
wins. Yeah, of course. But this is going to be
39:10
a hard fight, I think. I understand. Kafu's better
39:17
than people think, and he's tough as nails. He
39:22
stood up to Tanaka, and I know Tanaka's not the
39:25
heaviest puncher ever, but he's got power for
39:28
the weight class, for sure. I understand and
39:32
agree. Kapu, people overlook Kapu. I think Bam's
39:37
team themselves are kind of overlooking Kapu,
39:40
which the problem is that it's actually making
39:43
me worried because, as we all know, Bam and Puma
39:47
are supposed to fight if he wins. Oh, that's
39:49
right. And you guys know the curse with Riyadh.
39:53
Actually, with any promotional company in general,
39:56
where when they already have a fight lined up
39:58
in the future, it never goes good. So I pray
40:03
that Bam wins and gets out unscathed. But I hardly
40:11
see that happening with Kafu. I think Bam's going
40:14
to take some damage. I agree. This is going to
40:18
be his first fight in I don't know how long.
40:20
Or the guy I believe is under, I think he's like,
40:23
what, 27? 26? Kafu? Yeah, he's 26. He's 26? Yeah,
40:30
that's a young lion right there, dude. I brought
40:33
this up, too. Like, this is his first real not
40:38
-old -man fight in a while. They're about the
40:41
same age. Yeah, I believe this is going to be
40:44
Bam's hardest fight until Puma, of course, but
40:47
it's going to be a hard fight for him. I don't
40:49
even think he's going to knock him out. I think
40:52
this is going to go to decision, and it's going
40:55
to be a close one, I believe. Probably 8 -4.
41:01
Max. Yeah, I think if Bam does get the knockout,
41:05
Cafu's going to be on his feet. He's not going
41:08
to lay him out. Oh, no. If he does, that would
41:11
be crazy. And I know, again, it's going to be
41:14
like, oh, well, nobody really knew him, but this
41:17
is... I would say if he knocks out Kapu, he's
41:19
going to be one of, probably his best win so
41:21
far. Yeah. In his career. Because all the other
41:24
guys, yeah, they're legends. You know, SSR, Estrada,
41:28
Quadras. But they were all past it. Exactly.
41:34
Kapu, he's young and hungry. I believe he has
41:38
the opportunity, he has a chance to take Bam
41:40
out. And if it goes to decision, of course, I
41:44
think it's going to be given to Bam. But, If
41:48
someone's going to get knocked out, it could
41:50
go either way. I'm still sure Bam wins. I have
42:00
faith. I think it's going to be a much harder
42:03
test than everybody is kind of thinking it will
42:05
be. Yeah. Kofu's being overlooked, and I think
42:09
he's going to do the Michael Jordan and take
42:11
it personally. The thing is, for me, actually,
42:17
I have a... personal bias for bam i've been following
42:20
him for years and i think that um this fight
42:25
not but it's personal not that it's personal
42:27
to me but it's gonna be i'm gonna be a little
42:30
more stressed out for this fight specifically
42:31
than all the other fights this weekend you know
42:34
yeah yeah that's maybe one that's my main event
42:38
of the weekend bam kafu is gonna be the best
42:41
fight this weekend i think for sure Oof. Anything
42:47
more for BAM and Kafu? Alright. Potential buy
42:55
of the year. Potential. Yes, actually. Like you
43:02
were saying, if it's going to end by knockout,
43:04
it could go either way. That could be upset of
43:06
the year. Just because of how unknown Kafu is.
43:10
Oh, if Kafu wins, it's going to send shockwaves
43:14
through fucking all the lower weight classes,
43:16
I think. Yeah. All right, let's hit up PBC on
43:23
Prime at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. This is
43:27
a very stacked card. Although the main event
43:30
is pretty shit, the rest of the card is pretty
43:33
good. I don't know if this is the exact running
43:38
order. But we're going to start with Brandon
43:40
Figueroa versus Joette Gonzalez. You may have
43:43
seen Joette Gonzalez around. He's the guy they
43:48
bring around when we need a beatable opponent,
43:51
but someone who's tough and looks good on paper.
43:57
But he's not going to have to deal with like
43:59
Stephen Fulton type of movement or anything.
44:04
Should be a good night for the highlight night.
44:08
For Figueroa. It's a good confidence booster.
44:12
Yeah. It is. It's a solid one. It's a good guy
44:17
to bring out. Isaac Cruz versus Angel Fierro.
44:23
It was a dogfight last time. I'm expecting a
44:26
dogfight this time. Yeah, I'm excited for this
44:29
one. This is a good fight. Unless Isaac Cruz
44:31
gets a jab overnight. I don't think I'm going
44:34
to have another great fight. He might be allergic
44:37
to them. Oh yeah, for sure. I do not see Pitbull.
44:44
Pitbull with a jab is going to be crazy. Mythical
44:47
status. Not going to happen. Yeah, that's mythic
44:50
status. Another rematch. Sebastian Fundora versus
44:57
Tim Zhu. Hopefully Tim Zhu keeps all his blood
45:00
in one place. Preferably inside. Yes. What do
45:06
you guys got for this one? Because I've had disagreements
45:08
with everybody else. I want to see what you guys
45:10
got. I don't think Tim Zhu is over the cut. I
45:15
really don't. I think Tim Zhu is the better fighter.
45:19
I think he can win. I think if he gets cut, his
45:23
brain is going to explode, even if it's not a
45:25
bad cut. If Zhu produces any blood at all, I
45:30
think he loses. You think that's the PTSD trigger?
45:34
Oh, 100%. the the little short thing they put
45:39
out he like hadn't opened his shorts since the
45:43
fight they were in a plastic bag and they made
45:45
him open them on camera and like you could just
45:48
one he'd never opened it i think he was avoiding
45:52
it because of the like emotion and shit and he's
45:55
a man so he just put it in a bag and put it in
45:57
a closet and when he did open it you could like
46:03
I don't know how to describe it. It's not like
46:04
he cried or anything, but you could hear it in
46:06
his voice. Like, just, holy shit. Like, and can
46:10
you smell that? And I think it started, like,
46:14
flashbacks. Oh, smell. Smells the worst sense
46:19
of memory. Yeah, well, and, like, old blood.
46:23
Yeah. Yeah. I think he's over it. I believe that
46:31
Tim Zu, I think that if anything is going to
46:33
have him shaken up more between that and Murtazaliv,
46:37
I think it's the bad loss of Murtazaliv. That
46:41
was like the catalyst for him to change, to get
46:44
the help that he needed to get over the hurdle.
46:47
Maybe. I hope so. I like Tim Zu. Yeah, he seems
46:51
like a good cat. I want him to be okay, but I
46:56
just, I don't know, man. I don't think he's over
46:58
it. I think if he gets through this fight, he
47:02
might be over it. If you know what I mean. I
47:07
think so. Well, unless he gets cut again. But
47:12
who do you guys have win the fight, though? I'm
47:17
going with Tim. Tim? Okay. Yeah. I don't know,
47:23
man. I like Fundora, too, though. Yeah, he's
47:26
fun. He's a fun character. I just want everybody
47:28
to have a good time in this one. I personally
47:33
think that Fundora is going to lose this fight.
47:36
To me, the fact that in the first fight, Simzu
47:40
was winning the first three rounds pretty clearly.
47:43
And I think the equalizer was the blood. That's
47:49
what helped Fundora win that fight, in my opinion.
47:52
I agree with that. Tim Zu was winning, for sure.
47:55
So if Tim Zu can do the same thing and not get
47:58
cut, I think he wins probably pretty early as
48:01
well. He might just win by knockout. Again, I
48:04
really like Pandora as a person. He's a great
48:06
guy. But I have not seen much... I've seen a
48:10
little bit of improvement, but I haven't seen
48:12
much from him. Enough to where I could decisively
48:14
say that he will knock out Tim Zu or beat him
48:17
to decision. Because we've talked about podcasts
48:20
in the past. He doesn't utilize his jab properly.
48:26
And that could be because of his eyesight. I'm
48:27
not too sure. By the way, he fights on the inside
48:34
when he should be fighting on the outside. Yeah.
48:37
And he's going to be fighting a tough fight like
48:39
Tim Zhu. I don't know. I think Tim's going to
48:43
try and stay on the outside this time. And I
48:47
think if he can stay on the outside, he'll just
48:49
outbox Fandora. That's what he was doing last
48:54
time. Tim Zu was staying on the outside last
48:56
time. Yeah, and until the... Yeah, unfortunately
49:00
until the cut, but... Yeah, I think Tim Zu takes
49:03
it this weekend, unfortunately. And again, I
49:07
like Tim Zu as well. He's like a good guy, you
49:10
know? He doesn't seem like a... You know, like
49:13
other fellas. He's not very McCombish. Yeah,
49:16
he's not very McCombish, you know? He's not very
49:17
Takish. He seems like a good fella. You know?
49:21
So whoever wins, I would be happy with it. You
49:24
know? But for me, Pandora is a lot more local
49:28
than Tim Zoo. So I got to root for my guy, you
49:31
know? Fair enough. Man. Mario Barrios versus
49:39
Manny Pacquiao. Oh, Lord. Oh, my goodness. So
49:47
did you see the rumors? That I hope are just
49:50
unsubstantiated rumors of if Pacquiao wins, Mayweather's
49:55
coming out of retirement. Yes, I did see that.
50:03
I can see it happening, dude. And honestly, that
50:06
would be... I can see it happening. I can too.
50:09
Mayweather's been doing exhibitions for God knows
50:12
how long. I don't know. I think that if Manny
50:15
Pacquiao wins, that's guaranteed to happen. Because
50:18
it's the PBC, and the PBC loves good Mayweather
50:22
promotion. Yeah. They haven't had one in years,
50:26
and they're excited. They're biting their nails
50:29
with that right there. And honestly, if they
50:32
do that, it's going to be worse than the first.
50:35
Guaranteed. Oh, absolutely. Two old men fighting
50:38
each other. Like Roy Jones Jr. and Mike Tyson.
50:41
I was just going to say, it's going to be Roy
50:43
Jones Jr. and Mike Tyson. Roy looked just completely
50:50
unable to operate. He was trying to move his
50:53
body and it was not moving the way that he wanted
50:56
it to. Roy's knees are fucked. Yeah, absolutely.
51:00
Whereas Mike, you could see shades of what he
51:05
used to be. I'm expecting Manny Pacquiao to be
51:10
more like Roy in this scenario. I don't think
51:15
Pacquiao is going to be able to beat Barrios.
51:19
No. I don't see a way that old man Pacquiao does.
51:23
I know Barrios isn't that good, but he's not
51:27
fucking ancient, and he's good enough that he
51:30
picked up a title. The thing with Barrios is
51:34
that Barrios in his last fight was a dog. You
51:39
guys remember the Ramos fight with Barrios? Yeah.
51:43
Abel Ramos, yeah. So the thing is that Pacquiao
51:46
needs to knock him out. The problem is, can Pacquiao
51:50
really knock out Barrios when Pacquiao, even
51:53
when he was fighting at 147, couldn't really
51:56
knock out many, many people? I mean, I believe
52:00
it was, what, he only knocked out four? Wait,
52:05
I don't know if I'm getting this number right.
52:07
Because for years and years and years, he wasn't
52:09
able to knock somebody out. I don't know if you
52:10
guys can... Help me clarify this. I'm looking
52:13
at for his 147 time. He doesn't have that many
52:19
fights at 147. He's got, as far as I can tell,
52:22
one knockout against someone I don't recognize.
52:26
Lucas. Oh, I do recognize Lucas Matisse. I just
52:30
couldn't read his name properly. Matisse. But
52:35
Lucas Matisse isn't great. No. No, but I think,
52:40
as far as I can see, that's the only person he
52:42
knocked out at... Well, that was 146, but...
52:45
That's just what he weighed in. Either way, I
52:52
believe that Pacquiao would need to knock out
52:56
Barrios within the first four rounds. No fucking
53:00
way Pacquiao is going 12 rounds. I don't foresee
53:04
that either. Oh, I can see the back. I can see
53:07
him... Going 12 if Barrios... Carries him. Wets
53:10
him. Yeah, carries him. Because he's no legend.
53:12
You know how they always do. But the thing is
53:15
that I really want Pacquiao to win. I truly do.
53:20
Why? Why do you want Pacquiao to win? Let me
53:24
tell you why. Because Barrios, as a champion,
53:28
he hasn't done much. He's fought in the last
53:32
year. But in the last year, he's fought Abel
53:34
Ramos. And I believe he fought last May with
53:38
Baby Maidana. Baby Maidana was just... He got
53:45
obliterated on top rank. And Abel Ramos, while
53:48
that was a great fight, they haven't done anything
53:51
with him since. So with Barrios, they're kind
53:54
of keeping him in the... What's not the closet?
53:57
What's the word? They're just keeping him in
53:59
the storage box, you know? Until they need someone
54:01
to fill up a card. Okay, but let's say... Pacquiao
54:05
does win, then what happens? He fights Mayweather
54:08
and whoever that is is the title holder. Hold
54:11
up, hold up, hold up. Let me finish, let me finish.
54:14
I also want Pacquiao to win because that would
54:18
just be probably one of the greatest comebacks
54:20
in boxing history. I mean, come on. That's probably
54:24
the best comeback since Foreman, I would say.
54:28
Gotta be. To knock out a reigning champion, a
54:31
guy that is in his prime, you know? The only
54:34
thing is that this is a lighter weight class,
54:36
and Pacquiao is not like Foreman at all. So I
54:39
would say if Pacquiao does win against Barrios,
54:42
that will be the greatest win. Hot take. Hot
54:47
take. That would be even crazier than Foreman
54:49
beating Michael Moore. Woof. That is indeed a
54:55
hot take. No, I'm with Alex on this one, because
54:59
Foreman had his, like... Second career and worked
55:03
up to it. He didn't go away for six years and
55:07
then come back. Yeah, okay. I see what you mean.
55:11
Like, like, George Foreman earned that title
55:14
shot and he earned that fight. He earned, oh,
55:18
not that fight. He earned that win by knocking
55:21
him out. But the thing is, Foreman is a mythical
55:23
fighter. He had godly power. That was the equalizer
55:28
in that fight was the power of Foreman. The thing
55:30
is that this is a lighter weight class. At 147,
55:34
I mean, as much as we can talk about Barrios
55:37
not being, you know, good with his feet, he's
55:41
still young. So he can move. He has good reflexes,
55:44
though. He can move out the way. Pacquiao, he
55:47
can't punch like he used to. He can't be on balance.
55:52
He can't be balanced as he used to. So I would
55:56
say if he didn't knock out Barrios, that would
55:57
be the greatest... comeback, the greatest boxing
56:01
comeback in God knows how long, probably ever.
56:05
Yeah, I don't disagree. I just don't want Pacquiao
56:08
to win, because then what happens? Like, what's
56:13
accomplished? I would say that if Pacquiao and
56:17
Mayweather do fight, that does bring a lot of
56:19
viewers to the sport, and I understand that,
56:21
yeah, it's not the best fight to have people
56:25
watch, but at the same time, that could give
56:27
opportunities to put Other fighters on the other
56:29
card of that. You know. Okay. A spotlight to.
56:33
A lot of young fighters. Like. If Mayweather
56:38
wins. I can see Mayweather retiring with a title.
56:41
But Pacquiao is not going to retire while he
56:43
has a belt. Ever. That's just not in Pacquiao's
56:47
head. So. Who. Do you. Put up against Pacquiao
56:52
next. Well you would put Mayweather up with him.
56:56
That's the thing. That's what. They probably
56:58
would do. And if not, they'd probably do... And
57:00
then Mayweather wins the... They'd probably do...
57:03
Rowley beats old man Pacquiao badly. I don't
57:07
care what anyone says. That would be crazy if...
57:11
No, he would fucking kill Pacquiao. Like, literally
57:17
kill Pacquiao. The thing with Barrios is that
57:21
it's... To me, it's just that people are looking...
57:26
We do not really appreciate the skill of Barrios.
57:31
He doesn't have much, but he's still a young
57:33
fighter. That's the issue. He doesn't have much
57:38
skill, but he's still a young fighter. And he's
57:42
still world -class. Whatever anyone wants to
57:44
say, he's a world -class fighter. It says more
57:49
about the division than it does about Barrios.
57:54
And the thing is that as much as we could talk
57:57
shit about his skill, the one thing about that
57:59
man that will save him in that fight is his heart.
58:03
As we saw with April Ramos, he got up. He did
58:07
get up. And so if Pacquiao doesn't knock him
58:10
out, it's over. It's over for Pacquiao. But I
58:14
do want to root for Pacquiao to win. I understand
58:17
it's kind of silly to say that, but he's a legend.
58:21
I'm going to root for the guy I grew up watching.
58:24
Fair enough, but I just think it's a waste of
58:28
time. You never know. You honestly never know.
58:33
No, but I'm saying even if Pacquiao wins, it's
58:35
a waste of time. How many eyes do you think it
58:40
will bring back to the sport is my thing. It
58:43
will bring some amount of eyes back to the sport
58:45
if Pacquiao wins again. And that kind of does
58:49
suck that it has to happen like this if it were
58:51
to bring people back, but... But it will. If
58:56
Pacquiao beats Barrios, Barrios better retire.
59:01
You have to. He better fucking stop boxing. Yeah,
59:06
that would be unfortunate. Because the only person
59:09
to knock out Barrios is Tank. Yes. Uga has put
59:15
him both to ass, but he didn't knock him out.
59:18
Thurman? Thurman. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Thurman. Thurman.
59:24
Thurman. Thurman didn't knock him out, though,
59:27
right? He did not. Yeah. Tank was the only one
59:30
to knock him out. So, you can take that as you
59:35
will, you know. Those Pacquiao, those old man
59:38
Pacquiao, still have the power to put him out.
59:42
Old man Pacquiao is going to look like shit.
59:45
And it's going to make everyone sad, is what's
59:48
going to happen. It's going to be, realistically,
59:51
it is going to be another Jake Paul, Mike Tyson
59:54
fight. You know, it is going to be sad. But I
1:00:04
pray it's not. I just hope everyone has a good
1:00:10
time. Well, at least we got Bam. Yeah, we got
1:00:14
Bam. I'll bite my fingers for that. It sucks
1:00:17
that they're going head -to -head. Oh, are they
1:00:21
at the same time? Yeah, just about. It would
1:00:24
have been better to put at least one of those
1:00:26
cards in the following week because what the
1:00:28
hell is in the following week? Top break, but...
1:00:31
August 3rd. You could have saved one of those
1:00:34
fights for August 3rd. No, July 26th definitely
1:00:38
needs some help. Yeah. It still has Zayas Perez,
1:00:42
but not many people are going to watch that,
1:00:45
you know? July 26th, I'll be at Ryzen. So, no
1:00:51
good boxing that day. Yeah, there's not a lot.
1:00:55
Anything more for the PBC paper? No. I would
1:01:02
like to say shame on Marisa Suleiman for putting
1:01:05
this fight on. Yeah. Absolutely. That was just
1:01:09
a dogshit move. Yeah. You're screwing over all
1:01:13
these other fighters? that have worked their
1:01:16
way up the division and fought tough fights just
1:01:21
for old man Pacquiao to come back. As much as
1:01:23
I say I would want Pacquiao to win, again, I
1:01:27
only want that just because it would bring ice
1:01:29
to the sport, but realistically, it's ridiculous
1:01:32
that it's happening in the first place. It would
1:01:34
also be pretty funny. Yeah. At least have Pacquiao
1:01:38
show that he's not completely washed. Like, have
1:01:42
him have a tune -up. He's had exhibition fights.
1:01:45
That's the issue. Did you see his last exhibition?
1:01:48
He looked terrible. Yeah, he looked terrible.
1:01:51
Now, I would say hopefully if he does it better,
1:01:57
he'll survive. I said this on the other one.
1:02:03
If Barrios actually really hurts Manny or kills
1:02:07
him, it's Suleiman's fault. I mean, we'll see
1:02:13
what happens. I don't think Barrios is going
1:02:14
to kill him. That might be too much. Nobody thinks
1:02:18
that. It is boxing, but at the same time, I don't
1:02:21
think Barrios is going to wield the power to
1:02:23
kill someone like Manny Pacquiao. He's a 47 -year
1:02:28
-old man. He's an old man now. With a lot of
1:02:31
damage. It's not like Pacquiao's not like Mayweather
1:02:36
where he didn't take damage. Pacquiao's been
1:02:39
in some wars. You're right. Pacquiao's been in
1:02:41
many wars. He got fucking turned off by Marquez.
1:02:45
Like, that leaves some sort of damage. I don't
1:02:50
care who you are. Oh, no. Formal. Greed. Greed
1:02:56
is what makes this sport drive. Apparently. And
1:03:01
unfortunately, Mauricio Suleiman is gonna put
1:03:05
that at the forefront on this weekend. Yeah,
1:03:08
of course. He's gotta make his business money.
1:03:13
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July 19th weekend. Parting words. Everyone should
1:04:42
try a new drink this weekend. Of some sort. Just
1:04:48
something different. You might like it. Get a
1:04:51
new beer. Yeah. I tried... So they have strawberry
1:04:56
milk here in Japan, which I really like. But
1:04:59
I tried melon milk. Not that good. But I'm glad
1:05:03
I tried it. I would say, let's go Dubois. Hopefully,
1:05:12
he can win. Or hopefully, if a fight goes the
1:05:16
distance. Let's go Bam. Hopefully, he'll lose
1:05:20
a fight. Hopefully, he can fight Riyad and fight
1:05:21
Puma, which will be legendary. And as much bullshit
1:05:26
as we talk, I would love to see Matt and Pacquiao
1:05:28
come out of it unscathed. Oh, unscathed, yes.
1:05:33
It's the best anyone could hope for, is that
1:05:35
he comes out okay. Yeah. Get the applesauce ready,
1:05:40
Jinky. That's a tough video. Yeah, yeah. Alright,
1:05:47
well, if that's it, then that's it for this edition
1:05:49
of the Boxing B -Sides. See you on the other
1:05:52
side.