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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:05Welcome
- 0:06back,
- 0:06my
- 0:06friends,
- 0:06to
- 0:07another
- 0:07episode
- 0:07of
- 0:08Pearls
- 0:08and
- 0:08Prep
- 0:08npz.
- 0:09Here
- 0:09your
- 0:09preceptor
- 0:10in
- 0:10your
- 0:10pocket,
- 0:11your
- 0:11go
- 0:11to
- 0:11place
- 0:12for
- 0:12pearls
- 0:13that
- 0:13prep
- 0:13you
- 0:13to
- 0:14practice.
- 0:14My
- 0:15friends,
- 0:15today
- 0:16I
- 0:16want
- 0:16to
- 0:16talk
- 0:17to
- 0:17you
- 0:17about
- 0:18Z
- 0:18drugs.
- 0:19What
- 0:19they
- 0:19are,
- 0:20what
- 0:20they
- 0:20are
- 0:21not,
- 0:21and
- 0:22where
- 0:22you
- 0:22might
- 0:23find
- 0:23yourself
- 0:24prescribing
- 0:24Z
- 0:25drugs
- 0:26in
- 0:26clinical
- 0:27practice.
- 0:28And
- 0:28you
- 0:28know
- 0:28how
- 0:29I
- 0:29roll.
- 0:29This
- 0:30is
- 0:30not
- 0:30a
- 0:31lecture
- 0:32where
- 0:33I'm
- 0:33going
- 0:33to
- 0:33whip
- 0:33out
- 0:33a
- 0:34PowerPoint
- 0:35and
- 0:35spank
- 0:35you
- 0:35if
- 0:36you
- 0:36get
- 0:36the
- 0:36wrong
- 0:36answer.
- 0:37This
- 0:37is
- 0:37a
- 0:38fun.
- 0:38I'm
- 0:39in
- 0:39your
- 0:39living
- 0:39room,
- 0:40I'm
- 0:40your
- 0:40preceptor.
- 0:41We're
- 0:41chatting
- 0:42about
- 0:42meds
- 0:43and
- 0:44my
- 0:44personal
- 0:44experiences
- 0:45and
- 0:45what
- 0:46these
- 0:46medications
- 0:47mean
- 0:47in
- 0:48real
- 0:48life
- 0:48practice.
- 0:49I
- 0:49find
- 0:49those
- 0:50kinds
- 0:50of
- 0:50conversations
- 0:51the
- 0:51most
- 0:51high
- 0:51yield
- 0:52and
- 0:52the
- 0:52most
- 0:52practical.
- 0:53When
- 0:53I
- 0:53was
- 0:53in
- 0:54school,
- 0:54I
- 0:54remember
- 0:55literally
- 0:56spending
- 0:56time
- 0:57with
- 0:57my
- 0:57clinical
- 0:58instructor,
- 0:58sometimes
- 0:59in
- 0:59their
- 0:59living
- 0:59room
- 1:01and
- 1:01literally
- 1:01in
- 1:01their
- 1:02living
- 1:02room
- 1:02talking
- 1:02about
- 1:03meds
- 1:03and
- 1:03how
- 1:03passionate
- 1:04we
- 1:04were
- 1:04and
- 1:05all
- 1:05the
- 1:05nuances
- 1:05and
- 1:06picking
- 1:06her
- 1:06brain
- 1:06on
- 1:07when
- 1:07they're
- 1:07prescribed
- 1:08and
- 1:08why.
- 1:08And
- 1:08I
- 1:09found
- 1:09those
- 1:09conversations
- 1:10so
- 1:10valuable
- 1:10because
- 1:11they're
- 1:11beyond
- 1:12the
- 1:12textbook.
- 1:12Right?
- 1:12They
- 1:13put
- 1:13it,
- 1:14they,
- 1:14they
- 1:14put
- 1:14psychiatry
- 1:15through
- 1:15the
- 1:15filter
- 1:16of
- 1:16actual
- 1:16human
- 1:17experience.
- 1:17And,
- 1:18and
- 1:18we
- 1:19talk
- 1:19about,
- 1:19you
- 1:20know,
- 1:20why
- 1:20these
- 1:21are
- 1:21prescribed,
- 1:22what
- 1:22you've
- 1:22seen
- 1:22go
- 1:23wrong
- 1:23with
- 1:23them,
- 1:23what
- 1:24you've
- 1:24seen
- 1:24go
- 1:24right
- 1:24with
- 1:24them.
- 1:25I
- 1:25just
- 1:25love
- 1:25these
- 1:25conversations.
- 1:26And
- 1:26so
- 1:27I
- 1:27hope
- 1:27to
- 1:28kind
- 1:28of
- 1:29build
- 1:29that
- 1:29same
- 1:29relationship
- 1:30with
- 1:30you
- 1:30right
- 1:31now
- 1:31where
- 1:31we're
- 1:31just
- 1:32chatting
- 1:32in
- 1:33your
- 1:33living
- 1:33room,
- 1:33except
- 1:34for
- 1:34the
- 1:34fact
- 1:34that
- 1:35you
- 1:35don't
- 1:35get
- 1:35to
- 1:35talk.
- 1:36You
- 1:36don't
- 1:37get
- 1:37to
- 1:37talk
- 1:37at
- 1:37all,
- 1:37in
- 1:37fact.
- 1:38So
- 1:39it's
- 1:39really
- 1:39kind
- 1:39of
- 1:39a.
- 1:39Maybe
- 1:40a
- 1:40boring
- 1:40conversation
- 1:41for
- 1:41you
- 1:41in
- 1:42that
- 1:42even
- 1:43if
- 1:43you
- 1:43talked
- 1:43right
- 1:43now,
- 1:44I
- 1:44couldn't
- 1:44hear
- 1:44you.
- 1:45Um,
- 1:45but
- 1:45you
- 1:46get
- 1:46my
- 1:46vibe,
- 1:46right?
- 1:46You
- 1:46get
- 1:47my.
- 1:47You
- 1:47get.
- 1:48The
- 1:48point
- 1:48of
- 1:48I'm
- 1:48trying
- 1:48to
- 1:49make
- 1:49here
- 1:49is
- 1:49that
- 1:49this
- 1:50is
- 1:50going
- 1:50to
- 1:50be
- 1:50conversational.
- 1:51Now
- 1:52let's
- 1:52talk
- 1:52about
- 1:52Z
- 1:53drugs.
- 1:53Now,
- 1:54you've
- 1:54heard
- 1:55the
- 1:55term
- 1:56Z
- 1:56drugs
- 1:57probably
- 1:57before,
- 1:58and
- 1:59these
- 2:00are
- 2:00non
- 2:01benzodiazepine
- 2:02hypnotics.
- 2:04Now,
- 2:04what
- 2:05does
- 2:05that
- 2:05really
- 2:05mean
- 2:05in
- 2:06practice?
- 2:06It's
- 2:06kind
- 2:06of
- 2:07confusing
- 2:07because
- 2:08they
- 2:08are
- 2:08potentially
- 2:09habit
- 2:10forming,
- 2:10just
- 2:10like
- 2:10benzodiazepines,
- 2:11but
- 2:12they're
- 2:12a
- 2:12little
- 2:12bit
- 2:12less
- 2:13habit
- 2:13forming.
- 2:14And
- 2:14the
- 2:14reason
- 2:15for
- 2:15that
- 2:15is
- 2:16the
- 2:16GABA
- 2:17receptor
- 2:18is
- 2:19not
- 2:20so
- 2:20simple.
- 2:20It
- 2:20has
- 2:21subunits.
- 2:22Okay,
- 2:23Receptors
- 2:23have
- 2:24subunits.
- 2:24They're
- 2:24not
- 2:24just
- 2:25simple
- 2:25receptors.
- 2:26You
- 2:26could
- 2:26think
- 2:27of
- 2:27maybe
- 2:27a
- 2:27subunit
- 2:28as
- 2:28like.
- 2:28It's
- 2:29not,
- 2:29it's
- 2:29not
- 2:29like
- 2:29a.
- 2:30The
- 2:30receptor
- 2:31might
- 2:31be
- 2:31a
- 2:31doorknob
- 2:32that
- 2:32you
- 2:32turn
- 2:32to
- 2:33open
- 2:33the
- 2:33door,
- 2:34but
- 2:34on
- 2:34that
- 2:34doorknob
- 2:35there's
- 2:35like
- 2:36little
- 2:36buttons
- 2:37that
- 2:37can
- 2:37do
- 2:37different
- 2:38things.
- 2:38Maybe
- 2:38one
- 2:39you
- 2:39press
- 2:39one
- 2:39button,
- 2:39the
- 2:40door
- 2:40opens
- 2:40really
- 2:40slowly
- 2:41or
- 2:41really
- 2:41quickly
- 2:42or
- 2:42it
- 2:43changes
- 2:43colors.
- 2:43It
- 2:44doesn't
- 2:44matter
- 2:44what
- 2:44it
- 2:44does
- 2:45per
- 2:45se,
- 2:45but
- 2:46just
- 2:46the
- 2:46fact
- 2:46that
- 2:47certain
- 2:47receptors
- 2:48have
- 2:48subunits
- 2:49that
- 2:50do
- 2:51different
- 2:51things.
- 2:51So
- 2:52that's
- 2:52kind
- 2:52of
- 2:52important
- 2:53for
- 2:53you
- 2:53to
- 2:54understand.
- 2:54Now
- 2:55what
- 2:56I
- 2:56think
- 2:56is
- 2:56really
- 2:56cool
- 2:57about
- 2:58Z
- 2:59drugs
- 2:59is
- 2:59that
- 3:00they
- 3:00are
- 3:00a
- 3:00little
- 3:00bit
- 3:00less
- 3:01habit
- 3:01forming
- 3:01than
- 3:02benzo.
- 3:02So
- 3:02you
- 3:03feel
- 3:03a
- 3:03little
- 3:03bit
- 3:03more
- 3:04comfortable
- 3:04prescribing
- 3:05them.
- 3:05But
- 3:06at
- 3:06the
- 3:06same
- 3:06time,
- 3:07you
- 3:08still
- 3:08have
- 3:08to
- 3:08kind
- 3:08of
- 3:08have
- 3:08that
- 3:09conversation
- 3:09prescribed.
- 3:10That
- 3:10these
- 3:10patients
- 3:10can
- 3:11build
- 3:11up
- 3:11a
- 3:11tolerance
- 3:12that
- 3:12might
- 3:13not
- 3:13be
- 3:13as
- 3:13efficacious
- 3:14a
- 3:14few
- 3:14months
- 3:15down
- 3:15the
- 3:15road
- 3:15when
- 3:15they're
- 3:16trying
- 3:16to
- 3:16sleep
- 3:16with
- 3:17the
- 3:17same
- 3:17dose
- 3:17of
- 3:17this
- 3:18medication.
- 3:18And
- 3:18that
- 3:18can
- 3:18be
- 3:19frustrating.
- 3:19There
- 3:19might
- 3:19be
- 3:20rebound
- 3:20insomnia,
- 3:21there
- 3:21might
- 3:21be
- 3:21complex
- 3:22sleep
- 3:22behaviors.
- 3:23None
- 3:23of
- 3:23those
- 3:23things
- 3:24are
- 3:24fun
- 3:24or
- 3:25friendly.
- 3:25And
- 3:25you
- 3:25have
- 3:25to
- 3:26have
- 3:26that
- 3:26conversation
- 3:26with
- 3:27your
- 3:27patients.
- 3:27So
- 3:28I
- 3:28don't
- 3:28have
- 3:28the
- 3:28warm
- 3:28and
- 3:29fuzzies
- 3:29when
- 3:29I
- 3:30prescribe
- 3:30Z
- 3:30drugs,
- 3:31but
- 3:31there
- 3:32is
- 3:32one
- 3:32Z
- 3:32drug
- 3:32I
- 3:33go
- 3:33to
- 3:33more
- 3:33routinely
- 3:34than
- 3:34others
- 3:34that
- 3:34I'm
- 3:35excited
- 3:35to
- 3:35share
- 3:35with
- 3:35you
- 3:36shortly.
- 3:37Now
- 3:38you
- 3:38might
- 3:38say,
- 3:39well,
- 3:39okay,
- 3:41NPZ
- 3:42Z
- 3:42drugs
- 3:43are
- 3:43all
- 3:43fine
- 3:43and
- 3:43dandy,
- 3:44but
- 3:44I
- 3:44thought
- 3:45that
- 3:45CBTI
- 3:46was
- 3:46like
- 3:47the
- 3:47gold
- 3:47standard
- 3:48for
- 3:50sleep
- 3:50issues.
- 3:50You
- 3:51know
- 3:51the
- 3:51American
- 3:52Academy
- 3:52of
- 3:52Sleep
- 3:53Medicine,
- 3:53right?
- 3:53The
- 3:53guidelines,
- 3:54cbti,
- 3:55sleep
- 3:55restriction,
- 3:57cold,
- 3:57dark
- 3:57environment,
- 3:58only
- 3:59use
- 3:59the
- 3:59bed
- 4:00for
- 4:00sleep
- 4:00and
- 4:00sexual,
- 4:02set
- 4:02an
- 4:03alarm
- 4:03every
- 4:03day.
- 4:04Right.
- 4:06Only
- 4:06associate
- 4:07that
- 4:07bed
- 4:08with
- 4:08rest
- 4:09and
- 4:10not
- 4:11whipping
- 4:11out
- 4:11your
- 4:12phone
- 4:12and
- 4:12avoiding
- 4:12blue
- 4:13light
- 4:13and
- 4:13all
- 4:13that
- 4:14good
- 4:14stuff.
- 4:14Okay.
- 4:15And
- 4:15that's
- 4:15true.
- 4:15CBTI
- 4:16is
- 4:16fantastic.
- 4:18Going
- 4:19over
- 4:19the
- 4:20kinds
- 4:20of
- 4:20altcognitions
- 4:21that
- 4:22run
- 4:22through
- 4:22your
- 4:23head
- 4:23and
- 4:23challenging
- 4:24them
- 4:24about
- 4:25how
- 4:25you
- 4:25view
- 4:25sleep
- 4:26and
- 4:26behavioral
- 4:27changes
- 4:27associated
- 4:28with
- 4:28sleep.
- 4:28All
- 4:28of
- 4:28those
- 4:28things
- 4:29are
- 4:29first
- 4:29line
- 4:29gold
- 4:30standard.
- 4:31But
- 4:31as
- 4:31many
- 4:31of
- 4:31you
- 4:32will
- 4:32see
- 4:32when
- 4:32you
- 4:32actually
- 4:33get
- 4:33out
- 4:33into
- 4:34practice,
- 4:35a
- 4:35lot
- 4:35of
- 4:35the
- 4:35patients
- 4:36that
- 4:36may
- 4:36need
- 4:37a
- 4:37Z
- 4:37drug
- 4:37or
- 4:37want
- 4:37a
- 4:38Z
- 4:38drug
- 4:38or
- 4:38would
- 4:38be
- 4:39appropriate
- 4:39for
- 4:39a
- 4:39Z
- 4:40drug
- 4:40in
- 4:40your
- 4:40office,
- 4:41they
- 4:41will
- 4:41have
- 4:42either
- 4:42tried
- 4:42CBT
- 4:43I
- 4:4350
- 4:44times
- 4:44in
- 4:44their
- 4:44life
- 4:44and
- 4:45they
- 4:45say
- 4:45it
- 4:46just
- 4:46hasn't
- 4:46worked
- 4:47or
- 4:48they
- 4:48don't
- 4:48have
- 4:48the
- 4:49bandwidth
- 4:49in
- 4:50their
- 4:50schedule.
- 4:50Maybe
- 4:52they're
- 4:52like
- 4:52a
- 4:52tech
- 4:53CEO
- 4:53that
- 4:53just
- 4:53doesn't
- 4:54have
- 4:54the
- 4:54time
- 4:55to
- 4:55do
- 4:55CBT
- 4:56I.
- 4:56They
- 4:56outright
- 4:56refuse
- 4:57to
- 4:57do
- 4:57cbti.
- 4:58Um,
- 4:59they,
- 5:00their
- 5:00insurance
- 5:00may
- 5:01not
- 5:01cover
- 5:01that
- 5:02kind
- 5:02of
- 5:02thing.
- 5:03So
- 5:03you
- 5:03will
- 5:04run
- 5:04into
- 5:04actual
- 5:05limitations
- 5:06where
- 5:07you're
- 5:07going
- 5:07to
- 5:08feel
- 5:08kind
- 5:08of
- 5:08helpless
- 5:08or
- 5:09clueless
- 5:09if
- 5:09you
- 5:10only
- 5:10look
- 5:10at
- 5:10the
- 5:10textbook
- 5:11answer
- 5:11because
- 5:12it's
- 5:12not
- 5:12always
- 5:12viable.
- 5:13Right.
- 5:14And
- 5:15I
- 5:15find
- 5:15my
- 5:15sleep
- 5:16patients
- 5:16particularly
- 5:19challenging
- 5:20at
- 5:20times
- 5:21because
- 5:21they
- 5:22are
- 5:22the
- 5:22ones
- 5:22who
- 5:22normally
- 5:23have
- 5:24already
- 5:24tried
- 5:25all
- 5:25of
- 5:26the
- 5:26other
- 5:26options,
- 5:27you
- 5:27know,
- 5:28as
- 5:28opposed
- 5:29to
- 5:29maybe
- 5:29depression
- 5:30or
- 5:30someone
- 5:31who's
- 5:31never
- 5:31been
- 5:32treated
- 5:32for
- 5:32adhd.
- 5:33It's,
- 5:33it's
- 5:34a
- 5:34little
- 5:34bit
- 5:34more
- 5:35empowering
- 5:35because
- 5:36you're
- 5:36introducing
- 5:36them
- 5:37to
- 5:37Prozac,
- 5:37you're
- 5:37introducing
- 5:38them
- 5:38to
- 5:38Adderall,
- 5:39you're
- 5:39going
- 5:40over
- 5:40the
- 5:40informed
- 5:40consent,
- 5:41and
- 5:42it's
- 5:42a
- 5:43pretty
- 5:43good
- 5:43chance
- 5:43that
- 5:44some
- 5:45of
- 5:45your
- 5:45interventions
- 5:45will
- 5:46work
- 5:46because
- 5:47they've
- 5:47never
- 5:47really
- 5:47tried
- 5:47this
- 5:48before.
- 5:48And
- 5:48that
- 5:49could
- 5:49make
- 5:49a
- 5:49big
- 5:49difference
- 5:50because
- 5:50it's
- 5:50this
- 5:50new
- 5:50change.
- 5:51Right.
- 5:51They've
- 5:51been
- 5:51depressed
- 5:52and
- 5:52they've
- 5:52never
- 5:52been
- 5:52medicated.
- 5:53Well,
- 5:54here
- 5:54we
- 5:54go.
- 5:54Now
- 5:54we
- 5:55have
- 5:55an
- 5:55opportunity
- 5:55to
- 5:55really
- 5:56feel
- 5:56a
- 5:56difference.
- 5:57Not
- 5:57so
- 5:57the
- 5:58case
- 5:58with
- 5:58your
- 5:58insomnia
- 5:59patients.
- 5:59My
- 5:59typical
- 6:00insomnia
- 6:00patients,
- 6:01they'll
- 6:01kind
- 6:01of
- 6:01snicker
- 6:02when
- 6:02I
- 6:02suggest
- 6:02melatonin
- 6:03at
- 6:03first
- 6:04or
- 6:04trazodone.
- 6:05In
- 6:05fact,
- 6:05I'm
- 6:05very
- 6:05careful
- 6:06not
- 6:06even
- 6:06to
- 6:07suggest
- 6:07that
- 6:08right
- 6:08away.
- 6:09I
- 6:09first
- 6:10really
- 6:10just
- 6:11assume
- 6:11or
- 6:11confirm
- 6:12with
- 6:12them.
- 6:12Of
- 6:13course,
- 6:13I
- 6:13always
- 6:13do
- 6:13the
- 6:13assessment,
- 6:14but
- 6:14I,
- 6:15I,
- 6:16I,
- 6:16I,
- 6:16I
- 6:17assume
- 6:17in
- 6:17my
- 6:17mind
- 6:18that
- 6:18they
- 6:18already
- 6:18have
- 6:19tried
- 6:19those
- 6:19things.
- 6:19And
- 6:19then
- 6:20when
- 6:20I
- 6:20confirm
- 6:20it,
- 6:20sure
- 6:21enough,
- 6:21they
- 6:21do
- 6:22kind
- 6:22of
- 6:22snicker
- 6:22and
- 6:22go,
- 6:22yeah,
- 6:23yeah,
- 6:23I
- 6:23have
- 6:23tried
- 6:23melatonin,
- 6:24of
- 6:24course.
- 6:25I've
- 6:25tried
- 6:25Trazodone
- 6:26again.
- 6:26I've
- 6:27tried,
- 6:27I've
- 6:27tried,
- 6:27I've
- 6:27tried
- 6:28most
- 6:28of
- 6:28the
- 6:28patients
- 6:28I
- 6:29see
- 6:29they're
- 6:30not
- 6:30oblivious
- 6:30to
- 6:31all
- 6:31of
- 6:31the
- 6:31things
- 6:31we
- 6:31just
- 6:32talked
- 6:32about
- 6:32with
- 6:33CBTI
- 6:34and
- 6:34those
- 6:35kind
- 6:35of
- 6:35entry
- 6:36level
- 6:36hypnotics.
- 6:37They've
- 6:37been
- 6:37there,
- 6:38done
- 6:38that.
- 6:38Okay.
- 6:39And
- 6:39if
- 6:39they
- 6:39haven't,
- 6:39feel
- 6:40free
- 6:40to
- 6:40peruse
- 6:41through
- 6:41those
- 6:41and
- 6:41try
- 6:41them.
- 6:42I'll
- 6:42try
- 6:42people
- 6:42on
- 6:42doxepin
- 6:43and
- 6:43remeltion,
- 6:44depending
- 6:45on,
- 6:46you
- 6:46know,
- 6:46what
- 6:46stage
- 6:47of
- 6:47sleep
- 6:47they're
- 6:47struggling
- 6:48with.
- 6:48Doxypin,
- 6:493
- 6:49milligrams,
- 6:49move
- 6:50up
- 6:50to
- 6:506
- 6:50milligrams
- 6:51in
- 6:51a
- 6:51week
- 6:51or
- 6:51so.
- 6:52If
- 6:52the
- 6:52patient
- 6:52has
- 6:53middle
- 6:53incest
- 6:53insomnia,
- 6:53you
- 6:54know,
- 6:54it's
- 6:54FDA
- 6:54approved
- 6:54for
- 6:55middle
- 6:55insomnia
- 6:55or
- 6:56the
- 6:56type
- 6:56of
- 6:56insomnia
- 6:57where
- 6:57you
- 6:57wake
- 6:57up
- 6:57in
- 6:58the
- 6:58middle
- 6:58of
- 6:58the
- 6:58night
- 6:58and
- 6:59can't
- 6:59go
- 6:59back
- 6:59to
- 6:59sleep
- 6:59for
- 7:0030
- 7:00minutes
- 7:00or
- 7:00more.
- 7:01That
- 7:01kind
- 7:01of
- 7:01thing.
- 7:02Sure,
- 7:02you
- 7:03can
- 7:03play
- 7:03with
- 7:03that
- 7:04and
- 7:04explore
- 7:04what
- 7:04they
- 7:05haven't
- 7:05tried,
- 7:06see
- 7:06if
- 7:06it's
- 7:07pain
- 7:07related,
- 7:07see
- 7:07if
- 7:07there's
- 7:08sleep
- 7:08apnea,
- 7:08you
- 7:08know,
- 7:09do
- 7:09a
- 7:09sleep
- 7:09study.
- 7:10There's
- 7:10a
- 7:10lot
- 7:10of
- 7:10different
- 7:10things
- 7:11you
- 7:11can
- 7:12rule
- 7:12out
- 7:12and
- 7:12look
- 7:12at
- 7:13before
- 7:13you
- 7:14start
- 7:14a
- 7:14Z
- 7:14drug.
- 7:15But
- 7:15most
- 7:16of
- 7:16the
- 7:16time,
- 7:16in
- 7:16my
- 7:16experience,
- 7:17they
- 7:17have
- 7:17tried
- 7:18everything.
- 7:18And,
- 7:19um,
- 7:19now
- 7:20if
- 7:20not,
- 7:20you
- 7:20could
- 7:20also
- 7:21explore,
- 7:21does
- 7:22this
- 7:22person
- 7:22have
- 7:22an
- 7:22underlying
- 7:23depressive
- 7:23disorder,
- 7:24anxiety
- 7:24disorder?
- 7:24Are
- 7:25they
- 7:25worrying
- 7:25before
- 7:25bed
- 7:26a
- 7:26lot?
- 7:26Are
- 7:26they
- 7:27ruminating
- 7:28about
- 7:28the
- 7:28past?
- 7:28Do
- 7:28they
- 7:29feel
- 7:29like
- 7:29they're
- 7:29a
- 7:29failure?
- 7:30And
- 7:30they,
- 7:30they're
- 7:30just
- 7:30replaying
- 7:31embarrassing
- 7:31moments
- 7:32from
- 7:32the
- 7:32past.
- 7:32That's
- 7:33pretty
- 7:33common
- 7:33in,
- 7:34in
- 7:34depression,
- 7:34that
- 7:35sense
- 7:35of
- 7:35worthlessness,
- 7:36that
- 7:36could
- 7:36be
- 7:36the
- 7:36case.
- 7:37And
- 7:37if
- 7:37you
- 7:37have
- 7:37that,
- 7:38and
- 7:38if
- 7:38that's
- 7:38the
- 7:38main
- 7:39driver
- 7:39for
- 7:39why
- 7:40they
- 7:40say
- 7:40they
- 7:40can't
- 7:40go
- 7:40to
- 7:41sleep
- 7:41and
- 7:41you
- 7:41connect
- 7:41those
- 7:42dots,
- 7:42then
- 7:43a
- 7:43Z
- 7:43drug
- 7:43would
- 7:44not
- 7:44be
- 7:44appropriate.
- 7:45Right?
- 7:45It
- 7:45would
- 7:45be
- 7:46initiating
- 7:47some
- 7:47sort
- 7:47of
- 7:47antidepressant
- 7:48if
- 7:48they
- 7:48meet
- 7:48a
- 7:49broader
- 7:49criteria
- 7:49for
- 7:50those
- 7:50diagnoses.
- 7:52So
- 7:52at
- 7:52any
- 7:53rate,
- 7:53you
- 7:53will
- 7:53often
- 7:54find
- 7:54yourselves
- 7:55in
- 7:55checkmate
- 7:56territory.
- 7:56I
- 7:56say
- 7:56that
- 7:57a
- 7:57lot
- 7:57on
- 7:57these
- 7:57episodes.
- 7:58Right?
- 7:58Checkmate
- 7:59territory
- 7:59where,
- 8:00you
- 8:01know,
- 8:01you
- 8:01ruled
- 8:01out
- 8:01depression,
- 8:02you
- 8:02ruled
- 8:02out
- 8:02anxiety.
- 8:03They've
- 8:03done
- 8:03a
- 8:03sleep
- 8:04study,
- 8:04they've
- 8:04tried
- 8:04melatonin,
- 8:05ramel,
- 8:05on
- 8:06doxepin,
- 8:06trazodone,
- 8:07they've
- 8:07tried
- 8:07it
- 8:07all
- 8:08and
- 8:08bam,
- 8:09here
- 8:09you
- 8:09are
- 8:09in
- 8:10Z
- 8:10drug
- 8:10territory.
- 8:11Now
- 8:12every
- 8:12prescriber
- 8:13has
- 8:13their
- 8:13own
- 8:15way
- 8:16of
- 8:16doing
- 8:16things.
- 8:17It's
- 8:18always
- 8:18important
- 8:18that
- 8:18we
- 8:19maintain
- 8:20as
- 8:20much
- 8:20consistency
- 8:21as
- 8:21we
- 8:21can
- 8:21within
- 8:21the
- 8:22guidelines,
- 8:22of
- 8:22course,
- 8:23but
- 8:23every
- 8:23patient
- 8:24is
- 8:24a
- 8:24little
- 8:24different
- 8:24and
- 8:24it
- 8:25calls
- 8:25upon
- 8:25us
- 8:26to
- 8:26often
- 8:27do
- 8:27the
- 8:27right
- 8:27thing
- 8:28for
- 8:28that
- 8:28patient
- 8:28in
- 8:28front
- 8:29of
- 8:29us
- 8:29at
- 8:29the
- 8:29right
- 8:29time.
- 8:30That
- 8:30being
- 8:31said,
- 8:31I
- 8:31typically
- 8:32reach
- 8:32for
- 8:32lunesta
- 8:33or
- 8:33ezopiclone
- 8:34when
- 8:34I'm
- 8:35in
- 8:35these
- 8:35cases.
- 8:36And
- 8:36the
- 8:36reason
- 8:36I
- 8:37reach
- 8:37for
- 8:37lunesta,
- 8:38there's
- 8:39actually
- 8:39a
- 8:39few
- 8:39reasons
- 8:40I
- 8:40reach
- 8:41for
- 8:41it.
- 8:41Number
- 8:41one,
- 8:41I
- 8:42have
- 8:42just
- 8:42found
- 8:42throughout
- 8:43my
- 8:44career
- 8:44that
- 8:45it
- 8:45tends
- 8:45to
- 8:45be
- 8:45the
- 8:46most
- 8:46well
- 8:46tolerated.
- 8:47I
- 8:47have
- 8:47yet
- 8:48to
- 8:48really
- 8:48have
- 8:48anyone
- 8:49complain
- 8:50of
- 8:50complex
- 8:50sleep
- 8:51behaviors
- 8:52on
- 8:52Lunesta.
- 8:53It
- 8:53has
- 8:54definitely
- 8:54been
- 8:55documented
- 8:55in
- 8:56the
- 8:56literature
- 8:56that
- 8:56that
- 8:57can
- 8:57happen
- 8:58for
- 8:59reasons
- 8:59we
- 8:59can
- 8:59explain
- 9:00a
- 9:00little
- 9:00later.
- 9:01But
- 9:01in
- 9:01my
- 9:01experience,
- 9:02it's
- 9:02very
- 9:02well
- 9:03tolerated.
- 9:04And
- 9:06though
- 9:06it
- 9:06can
- 9:06cause
- 9:07a
- 9:07dependence,
- 9:07and
- 9:07sure
- 9:08enough,
- 9:08some
- 9:08people
- 9:09can
- 9:09certainly
- 9:10be
- 9:10physiologically
- 9:11dependent
- 9:11and
- 9:11develop
- 9:11a
- 9:12tolerance
- 9:12to
- 9:12it,
- 9:13there
- 9:14is
- 9:14also
- 9:16some
- 9:16FDA
- 9:16verbiage
- 9:17in
- 9:17there
- 9:19that
- 9:20during
- 9:20the
- 9:21clinical
- 9:21trials,
- 9:22Lunesta's
- 9:23long
- 9:23term
- 9:24clinical
- 9:24trials,
- 9:25the
- 9:26FDA
- 9:26wrote,
- 9:27quote,
- 9:27no
- 9:27development
- 9:27of
- 9:28tolerance
- 9:28to
- 9:28any
- 9:29parameter
- 9:29of
- 9:29sleep
- 9:29measurement
- 9:30was
- 9:30observed
- 9:31over
- 9:31six
- 9:31months.
- 9:32So
- 9:32that's
- 9:33pretty
- 9:33amazing
- 9:33because
- 9:33that's
- 9:34not
- 9:34the
- 9:34case
- 9:34for
- 9:34a
- 9:35lot
- 9:35of
- 9:35these
- 9:35other
- 9:35Z
- 9:35drugs.
- 9:36And
- 9:37so
- 9:37if
- 9:37a
- 9:38patient
- 9:38who
- 9:38has
- 9:38chronic
- 9:39insomnia,
- 9:39nothing
- 9:40else
- 9:40has
- 9:40worked,
- 9:41is
- 9:41on
- 9:41a
- 9:41Z
- 9:42drug
- 9:42like
- 9:42Lunesta,
- 9:43and
- 9:43the
- 9:44FDA
- 9:44specifically
- 9:46mentions
- 9:47that
- 9:47no
- 9:47development
- 9:48of
- 9:48tolerance
- 9:48to
- 9:49any
- 9:49parameter
- 9:49of
- 9:49sleep
- 9:50measurement
- 9:50was
- 9:50observed
- 9:51over
- 9:51six
- 9:51months,
- 9:51well,
- 9:52that's
- 9:52Kind
- 9:52of
- 9:52nice
- 9:52because
- 9:53you
- 9:53don't
- 9:53want
- 9:53to
- 9:53waste
- 9:53your
- 9:54patient's
- 9:54time
- 9:54and
- 9:54go,
- 9:55okay,
- 9:55well,
- 9:55I'll
- 9:55give
- 9:55you
- 9:55this
- 9:55one
- 9:56med
- 9:56for
- 9:56three
- 9:57months,
- 9:57and
- 9:57then
- 9:57you're
- 9:57going
- 9:58to
- 9:58just
- 9:58develop
- 9:58a
- 9:58tolerance.
- 9:59You're
- 9:59going
- 9:59to
- 9:59need
- 9:59more
- 9:59and
- 9:59more.
- 10:00Then
- 10:00you're
- 10:00going
- 10:00to
- 10:00have
- 10:00rebound
- 10:01insomnia
- 10:01and
- 10:02all
- 10:02these
- 10:02complex
- 10:02sleep
- 10:03behaviors.
- 10:03Well,
- 10:03there's
- 10:04not
- 10:04a
- 10:04lot
- 10:04of
- 10:04juice
- 10:05in
- 10:05the
- 10:05orange
- 10:05for
- 10:06a
- 10:06patient
- 10:06in
- 10:07that
- 10:07scenario.
- 10:08So
- 10:08again,
- 10:08I
- 10:09like
- 10:10Lunesta
- 10:10because
- 10:10it
- 10:11has
- 10:11that
- 10:11unique
- 10:11FDA
- 10:12verbiage
- 10:12where,
- 10:12though
- 10:13it
- 10:13can
- 10:13develop
- 10:13a
- 10:13tolerance,
- 10:14it
- 10:14doesn't
- 10:14always
- 10:15do
- 10:15that.
- 10:15And
- 10:15that's
- 10:16at
- 10:16least
- 10:16something
- 10:17that
- 10:17is
- 10:17a
- 10:17little
- 10:18more
- 10:18promising
- 10:19than
- 10:19a
- 10:19temporary
- 10:20band
- 10:20aid.
- 10:21Okay.
- 10:21And
- 10:21I
- 10:22like
- 10:22that.
- 10:23And
- 10:23I
- 10:23think
- 10:23that's
- 10:23worth
- 10:24looking
- 10:24at.
- 10:25Now,
- 10:26the
- 10:26goal
- 10:26of
- 10:26these
- 10:26Z
- 10:27drugs
- 10:27is,
- 10:28of
- 10:28course,
- 10:29to
- 10:29reduce
- 10:30the
- 10:30amount
- 10:30of
- 10:30time
- 10:31for
- 10:31sleep
- 10:31onset.
- 10:32So
- 10:32you
- 10:32want
- 10:32people
- 10:33to
- 10:33go
- 10:33to
- 10:33bed
- 10:34a
- 10:34little
- 10:34faster
- 10:35than
- 10:35it
- 10:35normally
- 10:35takes
- 10:36them,
- 10:36and
- 10:36you
- 10:36want
- 10:36them
- 10:37to
- 10:37stay
- 10:37asleep
- 10:37or
- 10:38encourage
- 10:38sleep
- 10:39maintenance.
- 10:39Okay.
- 10:40And
- 10:40you
- 10:40obviously
- 10:40want
- 10:41that
- 10:41sleep
- 10:41to
- 10:41be
- 10:41a
- 10:42little
- 10:42bit
- 10:42more
- 10:43restorative,
- 10:43which
- 10:44I
- 10:44think
- 10:44is
- 10:44also
- 10:45the
- 10:45case.
- 10:46Well,
- 10:46Z
- 10:46drugs
- 10:47are
- 10:47pretty
- 10:47good
- 10:47at
- 10:47that.
- 10:47And
- 10:48even
- 10:48though
- 10:49these
- 10:49are
- 10:49this
- 10:49very.
- 10:50They
- 10:50have
- 10:50a
- 10:50very
- 10:51similar
- 10:51property
- 10:52to
- 10:52benzodiazepines
- 10:53in
- 10:53that
- 10:53they
- 10:54are
- 10:54positive
- 10:54allosteric
- 10:55modulators,
- 10:56they're
- 10:56also
- 10:57different.
- 10:57Okay.
- 10:58And
- 10:59one
- 10:59key
- 10:59distinction
- 11:00we've
- 11:00talked
- 11:00about
- 11:00before
- 11:01is
- 11:02that
- 11:02Z
- 11:02drugs
- 11:03do
- 11:03not
- 11:03reduce
- 11:04slow
- 11:04wave
- 11:05sleep
- 11:05to
- 11:06the
- 11:06extent
- 11:06that
- 11:06benzodiazepines
- 11:08do.
- 11:08Okay.
- 11:09And
- 11:09that's
- 11:10really
- 11:10important
- 11:10because
- 11:11a
- 11:11lot
- 11:11of
- 11:11really
- 11:11important
- 11:12things
- 11:12happen
- 11:13during
- 11:13slow
- 11:14wave
- 11:14sleep.
- 11:15We've
- 11:15talked
- 11:15about
- 11:15this.
- 11:15It's
- 11:16so
- 11:16important,
- 11:16right?
- 11:17Your
- 11:17memories
- 11:18are
- 11:18consolidated.
- 11:19Okay.
- 11:19So
- 11:20short
- 11:20term
- 11:21memories
- 11:21kind
- 11:22of
- 11:22transfer
- 11:22to
- 11:22long
- 11:23term
- 11:23memories.
- 11:23It's
- 11:23almost
- 11:24like
- 11:24your
- 11:24iPhone
- 11:25updating
- 11:25at
- 11:25night.
- 11:25Right.
- 11:26That's
- 11:26happening
- 11:28during
- 11:29slow
- 11:29wave
- 11:29sleep.
- 11:30A
- 11:30lot
- 11:30of
- 11:30your
- 11:30patients
- 11:30who
- 11:31are
- 11:31dealing
- 11:31with
- 11:32trauma
- 11:32and
- 11:32trying
- 11:32to
- 11:33repair
- 11:33trauma
- 11:34memories
- 11:34and
- 11:35reconsolidate
- 11:35their
- 11:36memories,
- 11:36they
- 11:36need
- 11:37slow
- 11:37wave
- 11:37sleep
- 11:38to
- 11:38take
- 11:38place
- 11:38in
- 11:38particular.
- 11:39Right.
- 11:40That's
- 11:40very
- 11:41important.
- 11:41There's
- 11:42also
- 11:42glymphatic
- 11:43clearance
- 11:44or
- 11:44metabolic
- 11:44waste
- 11:45is
- 11:45being
- 11:45cleared
- 11:46during
- 11:46slow
- 11:46wave
- 11:47sleep,
- 11:47including
- 11:48those
- 11:48amyloid
- 11:48beta
- 11:49tau
- 11:50proteins
- 11:50that
- 11:51are
- 11:51implicated
- 11:51in
- 11:52Alzheimer's.
- 11:52There's
- 11:52a
- 11:52lot
- 11:52of
- 11:53research
- 11:53on
- 11:53that,
- 11:53but,
- 11:53hey,
- 11:54just
- 11:54kind
- 11:55of
- 11:55cleaning
- 11:55out
- 11:56the
- 11:57waste.
- 11:57The
- 11:57metabolic
- 11:58waste
- 11:58in
- 11:59the
- 11:59brain
- 12:00is
- 12:00happening
- 12:00during
- 12:01slow
- 12:01wave
- 12:01sleep.
- 12:02It
- 12:02supports
- 12:03your
- 12:03immune
- 12:03function,
- 12:04it
- 12:04reduces
- 12:04your
- 12:04cortisol.
- 12:05Right.
- 12:06These
- 12:06are
- 12:06huge
- 12:07things
- 12:07when
- 12:07it
- 12:07comes
- 12:07to
- 12:07your
- 12:08mental
- 12:08health.
- 12:08We
- 12:08know
- 12:08cortisol,
- 12:09when
- 12:09it's
- 12:09out
- 12:09of
- 12:09control,
- 12:10can
- 12:10destroy
- 12:10neurotransmitters.
- 12:12And
- 12:12so
- 12:13slow
- 12:14wave
- 12:14Sleep
- 12:14does
- 12:15all
- 12:15of
- 12:15those
- 12:15good
- 12:15things
- 12:16and
- 12:16even
- 12:16kind
- 12:16of
- 12:17prevents
- 12:17synaptic
- 12:18overload.
- 12:18So
- 12:19it
- 12:19kind
- 12:19of
- 12:19cleans
- 12:20out
- 12:20a
- 12:20lot
- 12:20of
- 12:20parts
- 12:21of
- 12:21the
- 12:21brain
- 12:21that
- 12:21don't
- 12:21need
- 12:22to
- 12:22be
- 12:22there
- 12:22anymore.
- 12:22It's
- 12:23just,
- 12:23you
- 12:23know,
- 12:23useless
- 12:23stuff
- 12:23you
- 12:24don't
- 12:24need
- 12:24in
- 12:25there
- 12:25so
- 12:25you
- 12:25can
- 12:25start
- 12:25the
- 12:26next
- 12:26day
- 12:26fresh.
- 12:27And
- 12:27if
- 12:27you
- 12:27don't
- 12:27do
- 12:27that,
- 12:28if
- 12:28you
- 12:28don't
- 12:28go
- 12:28through
- 12:28that
- 12:29like
- 12:29recycling
- 12:30and
- 12:30that
- 12:30short
- 12:30to
- 12:30long
- 12:31term
- 12:31memory
- 12:31storage
- 12:32and
- 12:32the
- 12:32immunity
- 12:32and
- 12:33removing
- 12:33the
- 12:33metabolic
- 12:34waste,
- 12:34you
- 12:34wake
- 12:35up
- 12:35kind
- 12:35of
- 12:36just
- 12:36not
- 12:36in
- 12:37a
- 12:37good,
- 12:37not
- 12:37in
- 12:37a
- 12:38good
- 12:38place.
- 12:38Right.
- 12:38Your
- 12:38sleep
- 12:39isn't
- 12:39really
- 12:39refreshed.
- 12:40Well,
- 12:40Z
- 12:40drugs
- 12:41restore
- 12:42your
- 12:42slow
- 12:42wave
- 12:43sleep.
- 12:44It's
- 12:44the
- 12:44most
- 12:44restorative
- 12:45sleep
- 12:45stage.
- 12:46Okay.
- 12:46And
- 12:47benzodiazepines
- 12:49do
- 12:49not
- 12:49do
- 12:49that.
- 12:50And
- 12:50they
- 12:50can
- 12:51actually
- 12:51interfere
- 12:51with
- 12:52that,
- 12:52which
- 12:52is
- 12:52a
- 12:52very
- 12:53big
- 12:53problem.
- 12:54So
- 12:55they
- 12:55don't,
- 12:56they,
- 12:56you
- 12:56know,
- 12:56they
- 12:56don't
- 12:57reduce
- 12:57slow
- 12:57wave
- 12:57sleep
- 12:58to
- 12:58the
- 12:58same
- 12:58degree
- 12:58as
- 12:59benzos.
- 13:00And
- 13:00I
- 13:01think
- 13:01that's
- 13:01also
- 13:01a
- 13:02really
- 13:02big
- 13:03distinction
- 13:03and
- 13:04a
- 13:04reason
- 13:04why
- 13:05this
- 13:05is
- 13:05different
- 13:06than
- 13:06just
- 13:06giving
- 13:06someone
- 13:07Klonopin.
- 13:07And
- 13:08I've
- 13:08seen
- 13:08tons
- 13:08of
- 13:08patients,
- 13:09for
- 13:09God
- 13:10knows
- 13:10what
- 13:10reasons
- 13:11diagnosed
- 13:11or
- 13:12prescribed
- 13:13Klonopin
- 13:13for
- 13:13sleep.
- 13:14Right,
- 13:14I
- 13:15get
- 13:15that,
- 13:15you
- 13:15know,
- 13:15you
- 13:16might
- 13:16be
- 13:16on
- 13:16it
- 13:16because
- 13:16you
- 13:16have
- 13:17anxiety
- 13:17at
- 13:17night
- 13:17and
- 13:18that's
- 13:18kind
- 13:18of
- 13:18a
- 13:18different
- 13:18ball
- 13:19game.
- 13:19And
- 13:19maybe
- 13:19nothing
- 13:20else
- 13:20worked,
- 13:21but
- 13:21there's
- 13:22really
- 13:22not
- 13:22a
- 13:22whole
- 13:22lot
- 13:23of
- 13:23evidence
- 13:23for
- 13:23that
- 13:25in
- 13:25that
- 13:25context.
- 13:26You
- 13:26know,
- 13:26I'll
- 13:27let
- 13:27again,
- 13:27every
- 13:27patient's
- 13:28a
- 13:28little
- 13:28different.
- 13:28But,
- 13:30but,
- 13:30but,
- 13:30yeah,
- 13:31I
- 13:31mean,
- 13:31you
- 13:31know,
- 13:32and
- 13:32that
- 13:32is
- 13:32the
- 13:32thing,
- 13:32right?
- 13:33We've
- 13:33got
- 13:33to
- 13:33talk
- 13:33about
- 13:34subunits,
- 13:35right?
- 13:35That's
- 13:35a,
- 13:36that's
- 13:36a
- 13:36big
- 13:36part
- 13:36of
- 13:36this
- 13:37conversation,
- 13:37right?
- 13:38So
- 13:38let's,
- 13:38this
- 13:38is,
- 13:39what
- 13:39I
- 13:39just
- 13:39said
- 13:40is
- 13:40a
- 13:40good
- 13:40time
- 13:40to
- 13:41segue
- 13:41into
- 13:42subunits
- 13:43because
- 13:43benzodiazepines
- 13:45are
- 13:45non
- 13:45selective.
- 13:46Okay?
- 13:47So
- 13:47they
- 13:47will
- 13:47bind
- 13:48across
- 13:49these
- 13:49GABA
- 13:50A
- 13:50receptor
- 13:51subunits,
- 13:52alpha
- 13:521,
- 13:52alpha
- 13:532,
- 13:53alpha
- 13:543,
- 13:54alpha
- 13:545.
- 13:55Don't
- 13:55worry
- 13:55what
- 13:55that
- 13:55means,
- 13:56but
- 13:56what
- 13:56that
- 13:56basically
- 13:57means
- 13:57is
- 13:59benzos
- 13:59are
- 14:00like
- 14:00this
- 14:00broad
- 14:00tool.
- 14:01They're
- 14:01going
- 14:02to
- 14:02make
- 14:02you
- 14:02sedated,
- 14:03they're
- 14:03going
- 14:03to
- 14:03make
- 14:03you
- 14:04less
- 14:04anxious,
- 14:04they're
- 14:04going
- 14:04to
- 14:04relax
- 14:05your
- 14:05muscles,
- 14:06okay?
- 14:07And
- 14:08they
- 14:08might
- 14:08make
- 14:08you
- 14:08kind
- 14:09of
- 14:09impair
- 14:09your
- 14:09memory.
- 14:10And
- 14:10that's
- 14:10because
- 14:10they
- 14:10hit
- 14:11all
- 14:11of
- 14:11those
- 14:11alpha
- 14:12subunits
- 14:13on
- 14:13the
- 14:13GABA
- 14:13receptor
- 14:14as
- 14:14opposed
- 14:15to
- 14:15your
- 14:15Z
- 14:15drugs.
- 14:16And
- 14:16they
- 14:17bind
- 14:17preferentially
- 14:18to
- 14:19the
- 14:19alpha
- 14:191
- 14:20subunits
- 14:20which
- 14:21are
- 14:21really
- 14:21selective
- 14:22for
- 14:22like
- 14:22sedation.
- 14:23Now
- 14:23lunesta
- 14:24is
- 14:24again,
- 14:25kind
- 14:25of
- 14:25my
- 14:25friend
- 14:26because
- 14:27it's,
- 14:28it
- 14:28has
- 14:28more
- 14:29preferential
- 14:30binding
- 14:30to
- 14:32those
- 14:33anxiolytic
- 14:34subunits
- 14:34like
- 14:34Alpha
- 14:352
- 14:35and
- 14:353
- 14:35than
- 14:36Ambien
- 14:37or
- 14:37Sonata.
- 15:32Okay.
- 15:33I'm
- 15:33not
- 15:33sure.
- 15:33That's
- 15:33why
- 15:34I
- 15:34like
- 15:34it
- 15:34more
- 15:34and,
- 15:35And.
- 15:35And
- 15:35why
- 15:35my
- 15:36patients
- 15:36seem
- 15:36to
- 15:36like
- 15:36it
- 15:37more.
- 15:37I'm
- 15:37not
- 15:37sure.
- 15:38But
- 15:38that
- 15:38might
- 15:38be
- 15:39part
- 15:39of
- 15:39the
- 15:39answer,
- 15:40that
- 15:40it's
- 15:40not
- 15:41strictly
- 15:41sedating
- 15:42you.
- 15:42It's
- 15:43actually
- 15:43providing
- 15:43some
- 15:43anxiolysis
- 15:44on
- 15:45top
- 15:45of
- 15:45that.
- 15:45And
- 15:46I
- 15:46think
- 15:46that's
- 15:46pretty
- 15:47cool
- 15:47that
- 15:47lunesta
- 15:48does
- 15:48that,
- 15:48but
- 15:48not
- 15:48to
- 15:49the
- 15:49extent
- 15:49that
- 15:49a
- 15:49benzo
- 15:50does
- 15:50it.
- 15:50Right.
- 15:51Because
- 15:52benzos,
- 15:52like
- 15:53I
- 15:53said,
- 15:53they
- 15:53broad.
- 15:54They
- 15:55broadly
- 15:55bind
- 15:55to
- 15:56all
- 15:56those
- 15:56subunits,
- 15:57and
- 15:57alpha
- 15:585
- 15:58is
- 15:58the
- 15:59cognitive
- 15:59reward
- 16:01subunit
- 16:02where
- 16:02it
- 16:02can
- 16:02actually
- 16:03drive
- 16:03addiction.
- 16:04Right.
- 16:05And
- 16:05so
- 16:05Z
- 16:05drugs
- 16:06do
- 16:06not
- 16:07preferentially
- 16:07bind
- 16:08to
- 16:08Alpha
- 16:085
- 16:09subunits.
- 16:10Okay.
- 16:10And
- 16:11so
- 16:11the.
- 16:12The
- 16:12main
- 16:12takeaway
- 16:13here
- 16:13is
- 16:13that
- 16:13benzos
- 16:14are,
- 16:14in
- 16:14a
- 16:14sense,
- 16:15a
- 16:15little
- 16:15bit
- 16:15dirtier.
- 16:15They're
- 16:16doing
- 16:16many
- 16:16different
- 16:16things
- 16:17at
- 16:17once.
- 16:17They're
- 16:17sedating
- 16:18you,
- 16:18they're
- 16:18making
- 16:19you
- 16:19less
- 16:19anxious,
- 16:19but
- 16:19your
- 16:20muscles
- 16:20are
- 16:20really
- 16:20relaxed.
- 16:21You
- 16:21can't
- 16:21remember
- 16:21stuff.
- 16:22Oh,
- 16:22and
- 16:22by
- 16:22the
- 16:22way,
- 16:23you
- 16:23might
- 16:23get
- 16:23addicted
- 16:24and
- 16:24feel
- 16:24very
- 16:25rewarded
- 16:25by
- 16:25it
- 16:26because
- 16:26of
- 16:26alpha
- 16:265
- 16:27subunit
- 16:27of
- 16:27the
- 16:27GABA
- 16:28receptor.
- 16:28While
- 16:29Z
- 16:29drugs
- 16:29are
- 16:29not
- 16:30as.
- 16:30There's
- 16:30not
- 16:30as
- 16:31much
- 16:31drama
- 16:31there.
- 16:32They're
- 16:32mainly
- 16:32sedating
- 16:33you.
- 16:33But
- 16:33lunesta
- 16:34gives
- 16:34you
- 16:34that
- 16:34little
- 16:35bit
- 16:35of
- 16:35a
- 16:35boost
- 16:36with
- 16:37anxiety
- 16:38without
- 16:39so
- 16:39much
- 16:39of
- 16:39the
- 16:39addiction
- 16:40drama.
- 16:40And
- 16:41so,
- 16:41again,
- 16:41that's
- 16:41kind
- 16:42of
- 16:42why
- 16:42I
- 16:42think
- 16:42lunesta
- 16:43is
- 16:43more
- 16:43of
- 16:43a
- 16:43Goldilocks.
- 16:44You
- 16:44add
- 16:44in
- 16:44the
- 16:44half
- 16:45life,
- 16:45where,
- 16:46you
- 16:46know,
- 16:46the
- 16:46half
- 16:46life
- 16:46is
- 16:47six
- 16:47hours
- 16:47of
- 16:47lunesta,
- 16:48which,
- 16:48again,
- 16:49I
- 16:49think
- 16:49more
- 16:49broadly
- 16:50covers
- 16:50your
- 16:50patients
- 16:51who
- 16:51have
- 16:51issues
- 16:52staying
- 16:52asleep
- 16:52and
- 16:53falling
- 16:53asleep,
- 16:54as.
- 16:54As
- 16:55opposed
- 16:55to,
- 16:55you
- 16:56know,
- 16:56a
- 16:57minority
- 16:57of
- 16:57patients,
- 16:58at
- 16:58least
- 16:58in
- 16:58my
- 16:58office,
- 16:59who
- 17:00maybe
- 17:00just
- 17:00have
- 17:00problems
- 17:01falling
- 17:01asleep.
- 17:02Right.
- 17:02If
- 17:03you
- 17:03just
- 17:03have
- 17:03problems
- 17:04falling
- 17:04asleep,
- 17:04find
- 17:05a.
- 17:05Find
- 17:06a
- 17:06faster
- 17:06half
- 17:06life
- 17:07like
- 17:07Sonata
- 17:08or
- 17:08Ambien.
- 17:09That
- 17:09way,
- 17:10maybe
- 17:10they're
- 17:10not
- 17:10as
- 17:11groggy
- 17:11the
- 17:11next
- 17:11day.
- 17:12But
- 17:13you
- 17:13will
- 17:14also
- 17:14see,
- 17:14of
- 17:14course,
- 17:14that
- 17:15a
- 17:15lot
- 17:15of
- 17:15people
- 17:15on
- 17:15Ambien
- 17:16are
- 17:16very
- 17:16much
- 17:17groggy
- 17:18the
- 17:18next
- 17:18day,
- 17:19even
- 17:19though
- 17:20the
- 17:20half
- 17:20life
- 17:21is
- 17:21pretty
- 17:21short.
- 17:21So
- 17:22we
- 17:22won't
- 17:22get
- 17:22into
- 17:23that
- 17:23complicated
- 17:24thing.
- 17:24But
- 17:24the
- 17:25bottom
- 17:25line
- 17:25is,
- 17:26I
- 17:26do
- 17:27look
- 17:27at
- 17:27the
- 17:27half
- 17:27life.
- 17:27Lunesta
- 17:28has
- 17:28a
- 17:28fatter
- 17:29half
- 17:29life
- 17:29than
- 17:30Ambien
- 17:30and
- 17:30Sonata.
- 17:31And
- 17:33that
- 17:34is
- 17:34kind
- 17:34of
- 17:34why
- 17:35I
- 17:35like
- 17:35it,
- 17:35because
- 17:35it
- 17:36covers
- 17:36sleep
- 17:36onset
- 17:37and
- 17:37maintenance.
- 17:38The
- 17:38one
- 17:39thing
- 17:39about
- 17:39lunesta
- 17:40that
- 17:40we
- 17:40do
- 17:40need
- 17:41to
- 17:41talk
- 17:41about
- 17:41is
- 17:42it
- 17:42has
- 17:42this
- 17:42kind
- 17:42of
- 17:42unpleasant
- 17:43metallic
- 17:44taste.
- 17:44And
- 17:44about
- 17:44a
- 17:44third
- 17:44of
- 17:45your
- 17:45patients
- 17:45are
- 17:45going
- 17:45to
- 17:45tell
- 17:46you
- 17:46it's
- 17:46really
- 17:46nasty.
- 17:47I
- 17:48have
- 17:48heard
- 17:48that,
- 17:48personally.
- 17:49Keep
- 17:49that
- 17:50in
- 17:50mind.
- 17:51I
- 17:51wouldn't
- 17:51say
- 17:51it's
- 17:52a
- 17:52deal
- 17:52breaker.
- 17:53I
- 17:53think
- 17:53patients
- 17:53are
- 17:54much
- 17:54more
- 17:54disturbed
- 17:55by
- 17:55their
- 17:55lack
- 17:55of
- 17:55ability
- 17:56to
- 17:56sleep
- 17:56for
- 17:56two
- 17:57decades
- 17:58than
- 17:58that
- 17:58metallic
- 17:59taste.
- 17:59But
- 17:59that
- 17:59metallic
- 18:00taste
- 18:01certainly
- 18:01doesn't
- 18:02help
- 18:02things.
- 18:02It
- 18:03makes
- 18:03things
- 18:03a
- 18:03lot
- 18:03more
- 18:04challenging.
- 18:04Okay.
- 18:05So
- 18:05just
- 18:06keep
- 18:06that
- 18:06in
- 18:06mind.
- 18:08But
- 18:08there's
- 18:09a
- 18:09place
- 18:09for
- 18:09these
- 18:09Z
- 18:10drugs,
- 18:10I
- 18:10think.
- 18:11I
- 18:11think
- 18:11there's
- 18:11especially
- 18:11a
- 18:12place
- 18:12for
- 18:12lunesta
- 18:14in.
- 18:14In
- 18:14the
- 18:15sense
- 18:15that
- 18:15it
- 18:15might
- 18:16last
- 18:16a
- 18:16little
- 18:16bit
- 18:17longer
- 18:18and
- 18:19it
- 18:19may
- 18:19not
- 18:20develop
- 18:21that
- 18:22tolerance
- 18:23over
- 18:23time
- 18:24where
- 18:25you're
- 18:25kind
- 18:25of
- 18:25struck
- 18:25out
- 18:26in
- 18:26six
- 18:27months.
- 18:27Remember
- 18:28that
- 18:28whether
- 18:29we're
- 18:29talking
- 18:29about
- 18:30Klonopin
- 18:31or
- 18:31Lunesta.
- 18:32Right.
- 18:34Benzos
- 18:35or
- 18:35non
- 18:35benzos,
- 18:37that
- 18:37these
- 18:37are
- 18:38positive
- 18:38allosteric
- 18:39modulators.
- 18:39And
- 18:40if
- 18:40you're
- 18:40a
- 18:40member
- 18:40of
- 18:40our
- 18:41Patreon
- 18:41page,
- 18:42you
- 18:43will
- 18:43see
- 18:43our
- 18:43really
- 18:43cool
- 18:44infographic.
- 18:45We
- 18:45make
- 18:45psychiatry
- 18:46really
- 18:46sticky
- 18:47and
- 18:47fun
- 18:47and
- 18:48easy
- 18:48to
- 18:48learn.
- 18:48If
- 18:48you.
- 18:49If
- 18:49you
- 18:49go
- 18:49to
- 18:49our
- 18:49show
- 18:49notes
- 18:50and
- 18:50become
- 18:50a
- 18:50member
- 18:51or
- 18:51go
- 18:51to
- 18:51patreon.com
- 18:53pearls
- 18:53and
- 18:53prep.
- 18:54You'll
- 18:54just
- 18:55love
- 18:55being
- 18:55a
- 18:55member.
- 18:55It's
- 18:56so
- 18:56fun.
- 18:57And
- 18:57the
- 18:57positive
- 18:58allosteric
- 18:58modulator
- 18:59is
- 19:00a
- 19:00wing
- 19:00girl
- 19:01in
- 19:01our.
- 19:02In
- 19:02our
- 19:02cartoon,
- 19:03right?
- 19:03So
- 19:04the
- 19:04wing
- 19:04girl
- 19:04kind
- 19:05of
- 19:05makes
- 19:05it
- 19:05easier
- 19:07for
- 19:07your
- 19:08existing
- 19:09GABA
- 19:10to
- 19:12enter
- 19:12the
- 19:13neuron
- 19:13and
- 19:14let
- 19:14the
- 19:14chloride
- 19:15ions
- 19:15flow
- 19:16and
- 19:16make
- 19:16the
- 19:16neuron
- 19:17quieter
- 19:17and
- 19:17less
- 19:18likely
- 19:18to
- 19:18fire.
- 19:19So
- 19:19the
- 19:19positive
- 19:19allosteric
- 19:20modulator,
- 19:21again,
- 19:21is
- 19:21a
- 19:21wing
- 19:21girl.
- 19:21Okay.
- 19:22Doesn't.
- 19:23It
- 19:23doesn't
- 19:23open
- 19:23the
- 19:24gate
- 19:24by
- 19:25itself.
- 19:25It
- 19:25sits
- 19:26on
- 19:26a
- 19:26different
- 19:27spot
- 19:27on
- 19:27the
- 19:27receptor.
- 19:28So
- 19:28in
- 19:28our
- 19:28little
- 19:29cartoon,
- 19:29you'll
- 19:30have
- 19:30to
- 19:30look
- 19:30at
- 19:30it.
- 19:31The
- 19:31wing
- 19:31girl's
- 19:32kind
- 19:32of
- 19:32off
- 19:32to
- 19:32the
- 19:32side.
- 19:33She's
- 19:33introducing
- 19:34GABA
- 19:35to.
- 19:37To
- 19:38the.
- 19:38To
- 19:38the
- 19:38guy.
- 19:39Okay.
- 19:40And
- 19:41it
- 19:42just
- 19:42sort
- 19:42of.
- 19:42By
- 19:43introducing
- 19:43GABA
- 19:44to
- 19:44the
- 19:44guy,
- 19:46it's
- 19:47just
- 19:47a
- 19:47little
- 19:47bit
- 19:47more
- 19:48natural
- 19:48and
- 19:48a
- 19:48little
- 19:48bit
- 19:49more
- 19:49smooth.
- 19:49And
- 19:49that's
- 19:50exactly
- 19:50what
- 19:50positive
- 19:51allosteric
- 19:51modulation
- 19:52is,
- 19:53right?
- 19:54They.
- 19:54They.
- 19:54They
- 19:55don't
- 19:55really
- 19:56make
- 19:57the.
- 19:58Like,
- 19:58they
- 19:58don't.
- 19:59They
- 19:59don't
- 20:00get
- 20:00the
- 20:01man
- 20:01and
- 20:01woman
- 20:02to
- 20:02like,
- 20:02date
- 20:02right
- 20:02away
- 20:03in
- 20:03my
- 20:03cartoon,
- 20:04right?
- 20:04But
- 20:04they.
- 20:05The
- 20:05positive
- 20:05allosteric
- 20:06modulator
- 20:07kind
- 20:07of
- 20:07introduces
- 20:08the
- 20:08GABA
- 20:09to
- 20:09the
- 20:10receptor,
- 20:10and
- 20:10that
- 20:10receptor
- 20:11changes
- 20:12conformationally
- 20:13and
- 20:13is
- 20:14more
- 20:14receptive
- 20:14now
- 20:15to
- 20:15the
- 20:15GABA
- 20:16that's
- 20:16already
- 20:16there.
- 20:17And
- 20:17so
- 20:17your
- 20:18neuron
- 20:18is
- 20:18more
- 20:18relaxed.
- 20:19So
- 20:19a
- 20:19wing
- 20:19girl
- 20:19makes
- 20:20the
- 20:20relationship
- 20:20a
- 20:21lot
- 20:21smoother
- 20:21and
- 20:21more
- 20:21relaxed.
- 20:22And,
- 20:22um,
- 20:23again,
- 20:23the
- 20:23wing
- 20:23girl
- 20:23isn't
- 20:24forcing
- 20:25the.
- 20:26The
- 20:26bond,
- 20:27but
- 20:27she's
- 20:27facilitating
- 20:28the
- 20:28bond.
- 20:29And
- 20:29that's
- 20:29similar
- 20:30to
- 20:30what
- 20:30these
- 20:30benzos
- 20:31do.
- 20:31So
- 20:31I
- 20:32highly
- 20:32recommend
- 20:32you
- 20:32look
- 20:33at
- 20:33that
- 20:33cartoon.
- 20:33Cause
- 20:33it's
- 20:34pretty
- 20:34cool.
- 20:34And,
- 20:35and
- 20:35that's
- 20:36exactly
- 20:36what
- 20:36PAMs
- 20:37or
- 20:37positive
- 20:37allosteric
- 20:38modulators
- 20:39do.
- 20:40Okay?
- 20:40They
- 20:41just
- 20:41promote
- 20:42sedation
- 20:43by
- 20:43enhancing
- 20:43that
- 20:44inhibitory
- 20:44neurotransmission,
- 20:46making
- 20:46it
- 20:46easier
- 20:47for
- 20:47your
- 20:47existing
- 20:48GABA
- 20:49to,
- 20:50you
- 20:51know,
- 20:51bind
- 20:51to
- 20:52that
- 20:52receptor
- 20:52and
- 20:53open
- 20:53the
- 20:53floodgates
- 20:54for
- 20:54that,
- 20:54those
- 20:54chloride
- 20:55ions
- 20:56to
- 20:56come
- 20:56through
- 20:56the
- 20:57neuron
- 20:57and
- 20:57make
- 20:57the
- 20:58cell
- 20:59a
- 20:59little
- 21:00bit
- 21:00calmer
- 21:00and
- 21:00promote
- 21:01sedation.
- 21:01So
- 21:02it's,
- 21:02it's
- 21:02pretty
- 21:03cool.
- 21:04And,
- 21:05and
- 21:05so,
- 21:05you
- 21:05know,
- 21:06now
- 21:07you
- 21:07kind
- 21:07of
- 21:07have
- 21:07an
- 21:07appreciation
- 21:08probably
- 21:08if
- 21:09somebody
- 21:09says,
- 21:09well,
- 21:09what's
- 21:10the
- 21:10difference
- 21:10between
- 21:11a
- 21:12Z
- 21:12drug
- 21:13and
- 21:13a
- 21:13benzodiazepine?
- 21:15And
- 21:15you
- 21:15kind
- 21:15of,
- 21:16you
- 21:16kind
- 21:16of
- 21:16get
- 21:16the
- 21:17point,
- 21:17right?
- 21:18There's
- 21:19a
- 21:19difference
- 21:20in
- 21:20the
- 21:20subunits
- 21:21of
- 21:21the
- 21:21GABA
- 21:22receptors
- 21:23where
- 21:24the
- 21:24alpha
- 21:255
- 21:25subunit
- 21:26of
- 21:26benzos
- 21:27make
- 21:27these
- 21:28a
- 21:28little
- 21:28more
- 21:28addicting
- 21:29potentially.
- 21:30And
- 21:30the
- 21:30Z
- 21:31drugs
- 21:31are
- 21:31far
- 21:31more
- 21:32selective.
- 21:32They're
- 21:32targeting
- 21:33sedation,
- 21:35and
- 21:36so
- 21:36they're
- 21:37a
- 21:37little
- 21:37more
- 21:37intentional
- 21:38to
- 21:38try
- 21:38and
- 21:38help
- 21:38you
- 21:39sleep.
- 21:39Now,
- 21:39there
- 21:39are
- 21:40complex
- 21:41sleep
- 21:42behaviors
- 21:42on
- 21:43these
- 21:43Z
- 21:43drugs
- 21:44that
- 21:44we
- 21:44really
- 21:45need
- 21:45to
- 21:46be
- 21:46careful
- 21:47about.
- 21:47Okay?
- 21:48Ambien,
- 21:49of
- 21:49course,
- 21:50is
- 21:50all
- 21:50over
- 21:50the
- 21:51medical
- 21:51literature.
- 21:52People
- 21:52making
- 21:52omelets
- 21:53on
- 21:53the
- 21:53highway
- 21:54or
- 21:54whatever.
- 21:54All
- 21:54these
- 21:54crazy
- 21:55stories
- 21:55you've
- 21:55heard.
- 21:56I
- 21:56don't
- 21:56know
- 21:56if
- 21:56that
- 21:56one's
- 21:56true,
- 21:57but
- 21:57there's
- 21:58just
- 21:58all
- 21:58kinds
- 21:59of
- 21:59crazy
- 21:59stories
- 22:00where
- 22:00people
- 22:00will,
- 22:02you
- 22:02know,
- 22:02walk
- 22:02out
- 22:03of
- 22:03their
- 22:03houses
- 22:03onto
- 22:04traffic.
- 22:05And
- 22:05that's
- 22:05very
- 22:05scary
- 22:06stuff.
- 22:06So
- 22:07just
- 22:07make
- 22:07sure
- 22:07you
- 22:07warn
- 22:08your
- 22:08patients
- 22:08about
- 22:09complex
- 22:09sleep
- 22:09behaviors
- 22:10and
- 22:10absolutely
- 22:11stop
- 22:12a
- 22:13medication
- 22:13immediately.
- 22:14At
- 22:14least
- 22:14I
- 22:14would
- 22:15when
- 22:15I
- 22:15see
- 22:15a
- 22:16complex
- 22:16sleep
- 22:16behavior
- 22:17that's
- 22:17starting
- 22:18to
- 22:18happen
- 22:18because
- 22:20of
- 22:21all
- 22:21the
- 22:21folks
- 22:21who
- 22:22do
- 22:22have
- 22:22serious
- 22:22injuries
- 22:23and
- 22:23comp,
- 22:24you
- 22:24know,
- 22:24as
- 22:24a
- 22:25result
- 22:25of
- 22:25a
- 22:25complex
- 22:25sleep
- 22:26behavior,
- 22:27the
- 22:27evidence
- 22:28suggests
- 22:28that
- 22:28about
- 22:2933%
- 22:29of
- 22:30them
- 22:30have
- 22:31had
- 22:31one
- 22:31before.
- 22:32So
- 22:33there,
- 22:33there's
- 22:33a
- 22:34great
- 22:34way
- 22:34for
- 22:34you
- 22:34to
- 22:35nip
- 22:35that
- 22:36in
- 22:36the
- 22:36bud
- 22:36and
- 22:36prevent
- 22:36that
- 22:37by
- 22:37just
- 22:38discontinuing
- 22:38it
- 22:39at
- 22:39the,
- 22:39at
- 22:39the
- 22:40first
- 22:40whiff
- 22:41of
- 22:42anything
- 22:42related
- 22:43to
- 22:44a
- 22:44sleep
- 22:44behavior
- 22:45on
- 22:45these
- 22:45medications.
- 22:46So
- 22:46definitely
- 22:46warn
- 22:47them.
- 22:48This
- 22:48is
- 22:48not
- 22:48the
- 22:48medication.
- 22:49If
- 22:49your
- 22:49patient
- 22:50has
- 22:50had
- 22:50that
- 22:50problem
- 22:50before,
- 22:51you've
- 22:51got
- 22:51to
- 22:51look
- 22:51at
- 22:52other
- 22:52alternatives
- 22:53because
- 22:53that
- 22:53could
- 22:53very
- 22:54well
- 22:54be
- 22:54a
- 22:54problem.
- 22:55And
- 22:55do
- 22:55your,
- 22:55you
- 22:56know,
- 22:56do
- 22:56your
- 22:56good
- 22:56informed
- 22:57consent.
- 22:57And
- 22:58like
- 22:58everything
- 22:58else
- 22:59in
- 22:59psychiatry,
- 22:59you
- 22:59know,
- 23:00there
- 23:00are
- 23:00risks
- 23:01and
- 23:01benefits,
- 23:02there's
- 23:02trade
- 23:02offs.
- 23:04And
- 23:04it's
- 23:05not
- 23:05about
- 23:05eliminating
- 23:06risk,
- 23:06it's
- 23:06about
- 23:06managing
- 23:07risk.
- 23:07It's
- 23:07about
- 23:08making
- 23:08sure
- 23:08your
- 23:08patient
- 23:09is
- 23:09fully
- 23:09informed
- 23:10and
- 23:10empowered
- 23:10about
- 23:11those
- 23:11risks
- 23:12and
- 23:12then
- 23:13monitoring
- 23:14them
- 23:14closely
- 23:15so
- 23:15you
- 23:15can
- 23:15engage
- 23:16in
- 23:16risk
- 23:16mitigation.
- 23:17And
- 23:18that's
- 23:18really
- 23:18the
- 23:18key
- 23:18here.
- 23:19So
- 23:19I
- 23:19hope
- 23:19you
- 23:20really
- 23:20enjoyed
- 23:20this
- 23:20conversation
- 23:21about
- 23:21Z
- 23:22drugs.
- 23:23You
- 23:23know,
- 23:23just
- 23:23know
- 23:24that
- 23:24you
- 23:24may
- 23:24find
- 23:24yourself
- 23:25prescribing
- 23:25these
- 23:26at
- 23:26times
- 23:28when
- 23:28you
- 23:28didn't
- 23:28necessarily
- 23:29want
- 23:29to,
- 23:29but
- 23:29you
- 23:30feel
- 23:30you
- 23:30needed
- 23:30to
- 23:31look
- 23:31at
- 23:32the
- 23:32half
- 23:32lives.
- 23:34Pick
- 23:34the
- 23:34one
- 23:34you
- 23:34think
- 23:35would
- 23:35work
- 23:35the
- 23:35best
- 23:35given
- 23:36the,
- 23:38you
- 23:38know,
- 23:38given
- 23:38the
- 23:39patient's
- 23:39presentation.
- 23:41Give
- 23:41good
- 23:41education,
- 23:42understand
- 23:43the
- 23:43difference.
- 23:44You
- 23:44know,
- 23:44if
- 23:45you
- 23:45have
- 23:45a
- 23:45patient
- 23:45on
- 23:45Klonopin
- 23:47and
- 23:47you
- 23:47want
- 23:47to
- 23:47switch
- 23:48them
- 23:48to
- 23:48Lunesta
- 23:49or
- 23:49something,
- 23:50it
- 23:50might
- 23:50be
- 23:50worth
- 23:51describing
- 23:52the
- 23:52difference
- 23:52as
- 23:53to
- 23:53why
- 23:53you're
- 23:53changing
- 23:54it
- 23:54and
- 23:54how
- 23:54these
- 23:54two
- 23:54meds
- 23:55are
- 23:55different
- 23:55and
- 23:56what's
- 23:56going
- 23:56on,
- 23:58dispelling
- 23:58some
- 23:59of
- 23:59the
- 23:59myths.
- 23:59It's
- 24:00just
- 24:00very
- 24:00important
- 24:01that
- 24:01we
- 24:01have
- 24:02those
- 24:02good
- 24:02conversations
- 24:03with
- 24:03our
- 24:03patients
- 24:03and
- 24:04we
- 24:04know
- 24:04what
- 24:04we're
- 24:04doing.
- 24:06And
- 24:07you
- 24:07know,
- 24:07this
- 24:08is
- 24:08probably
- 24:08not
- 24:08a
- 24:09long
- 24:09term
- 24:09solution.
- 24:11Just,
- 24:11just
- 24:11throwing
- 24:12that
- 24:12out
- 24:12there.
- 24:12You
- 24:13know,
- 24:13the,
- 24:13the
- 24:13VA
- 24:14guidelines
- 24:14from
- 24:142019
- 24:15recommend
- 24:16that
- 24:16Z
- 24:16drugs
- 24:17at
- 24:17the
- 24:17lowest
- 24:18effective
- 24:18dose
- 24:18for
- 24:18the
- 24:19shortest
- 24:19possible
- 24:19duration
- 24:20are
- 24:20more
- 24:21ideal
- 24:22because
- 24:23there
- 24:23are
- 24:23long
- 24:24term
- 24:24solutions
- 24:24for
- 24:24this
- 24:25that
- 24:25we've
- 24:25already
- 24:25talked
- 24:26about
- 24:27that
- 24:27are
- 24:27more
- 24:27appropriate.
- 24:28So
- 24:29with
- 24:30that,
- 24:30my
- 24:30friends,
- 24:31again
- 24:32we,
- 24:32I
- 24:32can't
- 24:33emphasize
- 24:33enough
- 24:33to
- 24:34go
- 24:34in
- 24:34the
- 24:34show
- 24:34notes
- 24:35and
- 24:35become
- 24:35a
- 24:36patreon
- 24:36member.
- 24:36That's
- 24:37patreon.com
- 24:38pearlsandprep
- 24:39we
- 24:39have
- 24:40a
- 24:40full
- 24:40clinical
- 24:41library
- 24:41of
- 24:41sticky
- 24:42visual
- 24:42psychiatry
- 24:43that
- 24:43helps
- 24:44you
- 24:44get
- 24:44this
- 24:44so
- 24:44fast
- 24:45and
- 24:45it's
- 24:46so
- 24:46fun
- 24:47and
- 24:47it
- 24:47really
- 24:47just
- 24:48transforms
- 24:48you
- 24:49as
- 24:49a,
- 24:49as
- 24:50a
- 24:50clinician.
- 24:50I
- 24:51don't
- 24:51know
- 24:51where
- 24:51I
- 24:51would
- 24:51be
- 24:52without
- 24:52that
- 24:52library
- 24:53to
- 24:53refer
- 24:54back
- 24:54to,
- 24:54to
- 24:55make
- 24:55this
- 24:55stick.
- 24:56Patients
- 24:57can
- 24:57smell
- 24:57you
- 24:57a
- 24:57mile
- 24:58away
- 24:58when
- 24:58you,
- 24:59when
- 24:59you
- 24:59kind
- 24:59of
- 24:59know
- 24:59the
- 24:59how
- 25:00and
- 25:00why
- 25:00of
- 25:00what
- 25:00you're
- 25:00doing,
- 25:01why
- 25:01you're
- 25:01making
- 25:02a
- 25:02medication
- 25:02change,
- 25:03why
- 25:03they're
- 25:03having
- 25:03a
- 25:03particular
- 25:04side
- 25:04effect.
- 25:05They
- 25:05really
- 25:06appreciate
- 25:06that
- 25:06next
- 25:07level
- 25:07knowledge
- 25:07and
- 25:08that's
- 25:08why
- 25:09we
- 25:09built
- 25:09the
- 25:09library.
- 25:10So
- 25:10have
- 25:10some
- 25:10fun
- 25:10with
- 25:10that.
- 25:11And
- 25:12if
- 25:12you
- 25:12want
- 25:12a
- 25:12bigger
- 25:12deep
- 25:13dive
- 25:13on
- 25:13what
- 25:13we
- 25:13talked
- 25:14about
- 25:14today
- 25:14too,
- 25:14there
- 25:14will
- 25:15be
- 25:15a
- 25:16beautiful
- 25:17presentation
- 25:17of
- 25:17this
- 25:18again
- 25:18on
- 25:18the,
- 25:19in
- 25:19the
- 25:19full
- 25:19clinical
- 25:19library,
- 25:20which
- 25:20is
- 25:20really
- 25:21a
- 25:21must,
- 25:22a
- 25:22must
- 25:22have
- 25:23if
- 25:23you're
- 25:23a
- 25:23student
- 25:24with
- 25:24the
- 25:25amount
- 25:25of
- 25:25resources
- 25:25there,
- 25:26it
- 25:26just
- 25:26saves
- 25:26you
- 25:26so
- 25:27much
- 25:27time
- 25:27in
- 25:28being
- 25:28able
- 25:28to
- 25:28understand
- 25:29this
- 25:29quickly.
- 25:29Thank
- 25:30you
- 25:30all
- 25:30very
- 25:30much
- 25:30for
- 25:30tuning
- 25:31in.
- 25:31Until
- 25:32next
- 25:32time
- 25:32here
- 25:32on
- 25:33Pearls
- 25:33and
- 25:33Prep.
- 25:34Bye
- 25:34bye.