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Last one before the new year · Boxing B-Sides

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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
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Oh baby. Boxing B -Sides back up in your ears.
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Joined by the legendary Saul. How's it going
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bud? Oh, guys. Glad you're back after a long
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hiatus. Yeah. You have good holidays? Good Christmas?
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Oh, yeah. It was fantastic. I went all the way
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up to Leavenworth. Beautiful town. Beautiful,
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beautiful town. I highly recommend it. Christmas
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town. Leavenworth? I went to Stoke Billing. Had
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some schnitzel. Had some bratwurst. Pretty fire.
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Oh, it sounds like you went to a German type
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of festival. Yeah, it was a Bavarian town. Oh,
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no shit. That's cool. Yeah, it was really cool.
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They had the McDonald's there and the Starbucks.
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The insides and the way it was all styled looked
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dramatic, you know? Yeah. It was really damn
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cool. That sounds pretty cool. Yeah, you should
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go one day. I just spent it with my family. I
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didn't do much. I just hung out. You had a good
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time, though, right? Yeah, of course. Always
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good to see my nephew and my niece. I'll see
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how everyone's doing. It's always cool to catch
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up. For sure, for sure. You had good food too.
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Yeah, definitely. What was the meals? We had,
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rather than doing a turkey, we did roast chickens
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and mashed potatoes. My sister thought they turned
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out poorly, but I thought they were good. And
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just some vegetable sides as well. Fire. Fire.
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Roast chicken, that sounds good. Yeah, it was
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tasty. Alright, fire. I'm glad you had a good
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time. Yeah, man. Well, we're fucking meeting
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today as we record this the 30th. Let's get into
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a little bit of news. First things first, fucking
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Anthony Joshua involved in a car crash. Holy
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shit. What do you know about this? What happened?
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He was in Nigeria, was it? Yeah, he was in Nigeria,
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and what happened was they were on the freeway,
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and they ended up trying to overtake somebody.
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And what ended up happening was, I guess, a tire
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blew out, and then they ended up hitting a parked
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car, and the two people in the front died. And
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Anthony Joshua miraculous came out with minor
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injuries, physical injuries. Mentally, in my
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opinion, he's fucked. I don't see him coming
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back. I think he's going to have survivor's guilt.
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If he comes back, that'll be crazy as hell. But
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if you look at the videos with the ones that
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I sent you, you can see the dead bodies. It is
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hard to watch. Damn. Yeah, I'm just learning
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about it. I haven't seen that much. Damn, that's
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fucking crazy. Well, yeah, I hope he gets to
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talk to somebody about... Survivor's guilt's
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a bitch. Oh, yeah, 100%. I mean, that's why I'm
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thinking that I don't even think he's going to
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come back to boxing because of that. Because
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these are guys he's known for his whole career.
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Shit. He's coaching, he's a trainer. Not a trainer,
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but he's coaching. I think his... His health...
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What do they call it? Strength and conditioning?
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Yeah. Those are the two guys. Rest in peace to
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those guys. I'm glad Anthony Joshua's okay, but
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man, it's rough. Just in time for the new year.
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Yeah. Well, no real good way to segue out of
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that. One of the goats retires. Terrence Crawford
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hangs it up. Retires 42 -0. 31 stoppages, 5 division
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champion, 3 weight undisputed. That's quite a
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fucking resume. Do you think he's going to stay
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retired? I do. I think Johnny Beck fucked up
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his plans. 100%. Because Johnny Beck was supposed
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to unify with Lara and then Crawford swoops in
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and... Either he takes out Adamas or he fights...
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I think he takes out Adamas for the fourth title
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and then fights Janubek. But that's not going
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to happen. No, unfortunately not. Yeah, I think
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he's done. Unless maybe... What I think is that
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if he's not done, he's going to try to get a
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bigger pay bump for Canelo rematch and that's
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it. And then they both retire. Yeah, that would
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be a lot of money. That could probably bring
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him back. Because Canelo has, what, two more
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fights with Riott season? I believe so. Yeah,
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he did Crawford and Skull. He has two more fights,
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which I don't know. I don't know what those are
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going to be. But anyways, Crawford, if he retires,
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he'd retire as a legend. One of the greatest
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of all time, in my opinion. I asked you a lot
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of this, so I'm curious to get your thoughts.
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Is his resume, are his record, his accolades,
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is he better than, does he? Is he above Mayweather
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on, like, the all -time list? I don't know. I
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would say in terms of skill. In terms of resume,
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Mayweather beats him. Because up until a couple
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fights ago, Crawford was under the top rank.
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Not top rank protection program, but they were
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just kind of giving him, you know. Not the best
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opposition, yeah. Exactly. They gave him guys
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that were over the hill or guys that, uh. That
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didn't even belong with him in the ring, you
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know. And then he fought Porter. And then he
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fought Spence. He fought Kell Brook. And then
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he fought Canelo. The Canelo fight itself cements
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his legacy. But Floyd Mayweather, he's fought,
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he got a whole list. He fought Castillo. He fought
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Corrales. He fought Caro. De La Hoya. Pacquiao.
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Pacquiao. Canelo. All these guys, you know. I
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mean, Marquez, he fought legends. The guys that
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are also in the history books. So I can't put
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Crawford above Mayweather in that regard. But
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maybe in terms of skill, I would put it in. And
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accolades too. I would say that three times undisputed
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is pretty crazy as well. Especially in the four
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belt era. Definitely. That weight jump is no
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joke. He jumped from 135 to... to 168, that's
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never been done in the history of boxing. That
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itself is legendary. So resume -wise, yeah, Mayweather
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beats him, but accolades, I think Crawford might
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have Mayweather beat. Yeah, that's where we landed
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as well when we were talking about it was accolades,
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Crawford has it, but resume, and I think resume
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kind of takes it because Mayweather's resume
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is fucking legendary as you already lined, we
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already fucking laid it out. Can't really. Yeah,
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there's no sense in explaining that one. Yeah.
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But I'm curious to get Josh's take on Crawford
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because I think he's come around a little bit
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more. He kind of turned a corner on Crawford
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for the better. Yeah, 100%. He used to be a very
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big Crawford hater. Now he's just kind of indifferent,
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as it seems. He saw how legendary he is and,
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you know, got respected. Yeah, can't be denied.
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Exactly. Oh, you know what can't be denied? Shiraz
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versus Pacheco for the WBO 168 title. Oh, my
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Lord. Man, we're going to talk about Pacheco
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in a little bit, but I am of the mind that he's
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a little bit too... He's not... I think Shiraz
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will beat him. I really do. I agree. And we'll
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get into right now about why that is, but Shiraz...
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Everybody that's been listening to the show ever
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since I came in knows that I do not like Shiraz.
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I don't think he's that great of a fighter. And
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before I used to be high on Diego Pacheco, and
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until recently, mainly his fights this year,
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I can't seem to support the guy as much anymore
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because he's a Benavidez fighter, I'll tell you
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that. He moved on from the Benavidez camp. But,
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yeah, he moved on, but, I mean, he still has...
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He still fights like it, you know? Yeah. I don't...
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And that last fight was... I'm getting to right
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now, but... Either way, Shiraz is gonna beat
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Pacheco. And I hate to say that, but it's true.
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I'm gonna be riding for Pacheco. Like, if we
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were doing roles in Discord, I would have Pacheco's,
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but... Me too. I'm pretty sure that Shiraz is
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gonna beat him. Me too. And, I mean, again...
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With Shiraz, he's got... Knockout power. You
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know, in a sense. He's got length. I mean, he's
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got a couple attributes that I think he meets
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Pacheco on. Because up until this point, Pacheco's
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kind of been the big guy. But then, I mean, he's
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never really fought anybody his exact size, huh?
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No. I mean, he fought Trevor McCombie. He fought
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Steven Nelson. He fought Kevin Lele Sajo. In
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his last fight. All guys that he was how much
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taller than them? A few inches at least. Yeah,
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exactly. A few inches. And he went the distance
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with all three. And then with his, was it Sulecki?
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Was it a fight before that? That was a blown
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up 154 guy. Yeah, it was a blown up 154 guy and
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he knocked him out in what? Round 8? And Billy
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got him out in round 1. Or round 2, I think.
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Yeah, I was misremembering who got him in the
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first. Yeah, it was Billy. Either way. I'm going
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to root for him. But Jesus Christ, he's going
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to need God on the side for that fight against
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Shiraz. And I don't even like Shiraz that much.
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Shiraz is going to get that title. WBO hasn't
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ordered the fight yet, but... Joe Cordina, who
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we'll talk about in a moment, is the mandatory
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for Abdullah Mason. Cordina just pitched a really
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good fight, and Abdullah Mason, I don't know.
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He's had spots where he gets tagged a lot more
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than he should. We're going to talk about it
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right now, but Joe Cordina, that fight against
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Gabe Flores Jr., I mean, come on. Gabe Flores
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Jr. is more of a local guy. He's a regional guy.
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I've never really been in the world of level
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stage, which, again, I can't disrespect the guy.
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He's no boxer. But, I mean, no disrespect to
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Gabe Flores Jr. He ain't no... He ain't cream
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of the crop. Right. He is what he is. He is what
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he is. He's an original fighter. Exactly. So,
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I mean, I'm glad that they're going to have him
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fight Abdullah. Because if they do fight, I mean,
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Abdullah wins easily. But... It's a good fight
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for Abdullah to get some experience. Yeah, former
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champ. Should be good. Former champ. I mean,
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he used to have fast hands. It might give him
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a little bit of a test, but not a test, actually.
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It might give him a little bit of some experience.
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But that's all I can say. It's just experience,
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honestly. I don't see Cordita beating Abdullah
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at all. I think I have the... If Abdullah, he
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can be a bit of an idiot sometimes where he doesn't
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fight intelligently the way he can and the way
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he should. And he'll go head to head with somebody
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and he'll get hit a lot. And Cordina, he can
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ice somebody if he touches them right. Maybe
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a couple years ago. Yeah, he did a couple years
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ago. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, Abdullah does
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mong out, but he's also young too, so maybe he's
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been working on that. You never know. Hopefully
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he has. Yeah. Hopefully he minds his P's and
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Q's and doesn't act the fool. He's got the gifts.
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He's got... Abdullah has a great jab, first of
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all. Great length. You know, good height. He
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should be able to keep away his opponents. You
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know? Except he wants to... He's young and he
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wants to be flashy. Except these guys are not
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top -ranked guys anymore. He's not fighting the
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top -ranked fighters. The fighters that top -rank,
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you know, all of these guys. No, he's fighting
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world -level opponents. I mean, as much as Jordan
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Codina is not, you know, what he used to be,
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he still was a champion at one point. You know?
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Yeah. Well, we'll never know. We might be surprised,
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but... Hopefully, Abdullah fixes the issues from
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his last fight and ices him out easily. The Barrios
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-Ryan Garcia undercard was announced. Armando
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Resendiz vs. Edgar Berlanga. Gary Antoine Russell
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vs. Andy Hiraoka. And Lester Martinez vs. TBA.
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This is a pretty good... This is a really solid
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undercard. This is a PBC card, right? It's not...
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Yeah. Turkey. Turkey back. I think it might be...
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I think it has Riyadh season sponsorship. Hmm.
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Well, hopefully it's put on PBC. They have much
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better quality streaming than the Zone card,
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I would say. But I know Rossini's Berlanga is
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for the WBA. champion, right? Yes. Oh, that's...
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I don't get that. I don't get why they... How
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does that even happen where Resendiz is facing
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Berlanga for a belt when Berlanga lost his last
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fight? It baffles me. I think it's just because
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he has a name. That's really it. There's nobody
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else at 168 that's better than Berlanga that
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can, you know, in the WBA rankings. I know they
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had a... Actually, I don't know, actually. Shoot.
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Mbiles would be fun. That would be a clobberfest.
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I mean, even though Berlanga's a free agent,
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but they're giving him to anybody. He's kind
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of a whore. Yeah, he floats. He floats around,
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yeah. I don't know. Lester Martinez, I hope he
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fights good opposition. I doubt it, though, if
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this is a card like this. They're going to give
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him like a, you know. It's not going to be the
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Mbili rematch that everybody wants. If that's
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an Mbili rematch, that is actually legitimately
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a great card. But, I don't know. We'll see. Gary
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Antoine Russell versus Andy Hierroca. That's
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a, it'll be a gangbuster fight too. I think,
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I think most of the fights on the card, besides
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I would say Resendiz Berlanga, are going to be
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better than the main. Because I feel like the
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main. Is either going to be. It's going to be
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a Barrios. It's going to be a Barrios decision.
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Or it looks like it's going to be a draw. If
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it goes to the decision. You know. I'm hoping
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for a draw. I hope it'll be funny. It's probably
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going to be a draw. But. I don't know. I got
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Ryan winning the fight. And we'll talk about
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it when it comes. It comes around. But. I seriously
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do not rate Barrios. Anywhere near. Cream of
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the crop level. No, definitely not. Even with
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Raleigh holding one of the titles, Barrios is
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still the weakest of the four champions. I understand.
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And you know what's funny? I was watching a video
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of The Greatest Child to Tell talking to Marisa
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Suleiman about how the hell Ryan got a shot at
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the WBC champion for Barrios. I mean, he lost
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his last fight against Raleigh. Against Devin,
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he, you know, had a questionable performance.
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You know? Right. Not questionable performance,
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but, you know, what happened. The antics, is
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what I mean. So, why, I wonder why they gave
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him, they would give him the fight. And, Chantel
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asked that question to Maurice Suleiman. And,
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Suleiman gave, you know, gave the typical PR
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answer, you know, oh, Ryan, after his time healing
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with himself, We wanted to give him a fight.
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We wanted to give him a shot because everybody
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deserves to take a chance. All I heard was, no,
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we're doing this shit for the money. Yeah, that's
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all that I heard with that explanation. That's
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all it is. Did you see that interview or no?
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No, but with what you just told me, it's no,
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Ryan Garcia is the name, so you want the money.
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Exactly. Exactly. I mean, that's the reason why
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they unbanned him in the first place. Right.
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So I just thought that was funny. Oh, speaking
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of funny, Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather are
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doing an exhibition in March. Oh, really? It's
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announced? Yeah. Mike Tyson announced it, I believe.
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Hmm. It's interesting. Mike Tyson announced it.
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That's funny because the Pacquiao fight really
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actually fell through. Did it? Oh, yeah, it did.
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It's not happening anymore, I guess. So if Pacquiao's
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not fighting Rowley and Floyd's fighting Mike
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Tyson, I don't know who the hell Pacquiao's fighting.
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You should just stay retired, I think. I don't
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understand. He should not come back. Yeah. You
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never know. Maybe that fight will be made still.
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I know the masses have been waiting to hear Troy
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Isley is a promotional free agent. Troy Isley.
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Yeah. Troy Isley. Troy Isley. That's not... Yeah,
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he's not ringing a bell. That's just a case in
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point. Troy Isley. Troy Isley's a top -ranked
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guy, right? He was. He was top -ranked, yeah.
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He fought whenever he showed up for a fight,
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huh? Usually, yeah. I vaguely remember. Well,
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he gave creation. I mean... Go to Pro Box. Devin
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Haney versus Lewis Crocker for unification. Easy
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scalp for Haney, I think. Yeah. I mean, that's
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going to be a fight that will inevitably be on
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a pay -per -view card. If they want to be funny,
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they could put down a Riyadh season card. I don't
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know. That does sound like it's not going to
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be a good watch. It'll be another boring Devin
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Haney decision. Again, I don't even rate Lewis
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Crocker high. No. He don't got power. He don't
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got speed. Hopefully Devin Haney wins. We'll
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see. And speaking of Brits, fucking Adam Azim
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is fighting Gustavo Lemos. If he can't do what
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Keyshawn couldn't do, then... Yeah. I don't know.
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But what if he can? You see that one going all
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the way? I don't see it going all the way. If
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Adam Azim is really what he's, you know, said
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to be, I don't see it going all the way. Maybe
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he'll end Fry in the... Maybe the six. Hmm. What
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about you? How do you feel about that fight?
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It's a fight of all time. Yeah, I want Adam Azeem
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to suffer because he did my man Kurt Scooby and
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I don't like it. But Adam Azeem is fine. I think
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he should be able to finish it round six to eight
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somewhere in that area. Oh. Well, I think we
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exhausted all the news there. Oh, fucking...
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Reviews. Holy shit. We've got a bit of a list
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here. First things first. Bash promotions on
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Prime Pay -Per -View. Norair McKalian beats Badou
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Jack to claim the WBC Cruiserweight title. Did
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you see this fight? Um... It's a cliff. Um...
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Pretty sure that it wasn't a good fight to watch.
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It was not. Pretty dull. And there was some strangeness
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I think at the end of the seventh round where
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they the corners rushed into the ring and everybody
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was like brawling for a little bit. And then
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they just continued the fight like nothing happened.
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Pretty odd. That was really weird. Odd shit.
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Odd shit. Uh, Makalian was docked a point for
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hitting behind the head and Badu Jack was docked
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a point for hitting when the referee had called
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a stop. Weird fight. Very. That's all I got to
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say about that. Uh, hopefully Makalian fights,
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um, Opitaya or Zerto, one of the two. Just get
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yourself out of the mix, please. Opetai's been
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fighting nobody, but, you know. McCabe kind of
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fits the bill. Yeah. I mean, might be. Let's
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see. Matchroom at the Stockton Arena on DAZN.
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Going from the bottom up. Some shit I don't care
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about. Chavon Clark had a nice stoppage. Over
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Anthony Holloway. It was pretty fun. Ernesto
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Mercado KO6 over Antonio Moran. That was a nice
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knockout. Good knockout. Yeah, he looked good.
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Great, yeah. Ooh, Sky Nicholson gets a UD to
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claim the interim WBC Super Bantamweight title.
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It certainly was a fight. It was an alright fight.
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I don't know. It's a Scott Nicholson fight, what
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do you expect? Yeah. We all know why we're here.
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Exactly. Joe Cordina, UD over Gabe Flores. We
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were talking about it earlier. Not a stellar
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win, but Cordina looked good for whatever it's
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worth. I'm curious. Is Gabe Flores the matching
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guy? They just picked him up off the regional.
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I think they picked him up because it was going
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to be in Stockton. Okay. That's good. Because
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they're trying to push him. That's a fucking
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mistake. Yeah, that is a big fucking mistake.
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A waste of money right there. I'm glad Joe Gordiano
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got the win. I knew he was going to win. I've
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heard of him. I've seen a little bit of him.
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Nothing to squawk at. No. I thought Joe Cordina
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had it... I think it was in the 8th or 9th. He
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had Gabe Flores looking pretty hurt. I was surprised
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he didn't push the envelope and go for the stoppage.
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Let's go as old as hell. Could be. In the main,
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Diego Pacheco gets the UD with some questionable
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scores. over Kevin Sajo. Got knocked down, what
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was it, like the 8th? I think the 8th, yeah,
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he got knocked down. It wasn't a horrible knockdown,
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but it was a knockdown. Yeah, it definitely showed
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what we were kind of alluding to earlier about
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Diego Pacheco and now his fight with Shiraz.
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If you're getting tagged like that by Kevin Sajo,
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I don't know, man. I mean, at the same time,
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I do know that Kevin Satcher, I think we were
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saying this before, the fight that, I mean, he
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looks like he got bricks for hands and he showed
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he's got some power. Now, is he ever going to
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become a world -level guy? I don't know. I don't
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think so. But they'll probably feed him to some
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of the top guys, you know, or the up -and -comers.
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But Jesus Christ, I don't know. I don't know
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what the hell is wrong with Pacheco. Benavidez
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has done him wrong. Yeah, it looks like he's
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trying to work out, trying to break old habits.
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And it's causing some defensive lapses. It's
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not working out. I'll tell you, he needs to figure
26:46
out something quick. Because he's got some physical
26:50
gifts. I mean, he's tall. I mean, he's got some
26:53
amount of power. I think after these last couple
26:57
fights, I doubt it. That he's got any world -level
26:59
power. But he's got a little bit enough to hold
27:02
off a fighter. But, I mean, I don't know. We'll
27:05
see what happens if he even fights Shiraz. They
27:08
might not even make that fight with Shiraz. They
27:10
could order it, but he might not even take it.
27:13
I expect Pacheco will take it. Just because it's
27:16
a shot at a title. So, that's what I'm thinking.
27:21
I don't know. Maybe they might think it's too
27:23
early. Especially after this fight. I don't know.
27:27
I mean, he's only, what, 24? 24, yeah. He's only
27:31
24. I mean, he's got plenty of time. Plus, Shiraz,
27:33
I mean, if he loses to Shiraz, that would really
27:36
set him back. You know? He'll be put on some
27:40
undercards for the rest of his time. Until the
27:45
rest, near the end of his 20s, most likely. You
27:48
think it'll be that bad? Yeah, I mean, I genuinely
27:52
think that Shiraz will knock him out. and you'll
27:56
stay on a BAM undercard. That's it. He'll be
28:00
known in California. Might be well -known in
28:06
California, but that's it. I can't rate the guy
28:09
highly. He hasn't shown me a lot. And what he's
28:13
showing me is that he's not going to be up there
28:15
with world -level fighters. I think even someone,
28:18
if Berlanga had a really good night, I think
28:22
you'd beat him. And that's some crazy shit to
28:25
say, maybe. But Berlanga might just beat Pacheco
28:28
on his best night. Damn. I'm in Munguia. No,
28:37
that's not happening. You don't think so? That's
28:40
not going to happen. Caught him up, but that's
28:43
not going to happen. Munguia is going down the
28:45
IBF route. I don't think he's going to want to
28:47
mess with Pacheco. Munguia, we're smart. He can
28:52
fight Oslis. Is that a smart move? Is that a
28:56
smart move for anyone? Well, I mean, that's a
28:59
shot at the title. Versus Oslis. WBL is obviously
29:03
going to favor Shiraz. But, I mean, that's an
29:07
immediate shot at the title for Munguia. I mean,
29:10
Munguia beats Pacheco. I mean, what's going to
29:12
happen? He's going to beat an original guy. That's
29:14
it. At least with Oslis, he'll have a shot at
29:17
a title. You never know. He might surprise everybody.
29:19
I mean, yeah, Ostley has been fighting some great
29:22
competition. I've been following him for the
29:25
past year, and I got to say that, I mean, he's
29:29
been selling me. But at the end of the day, he's
29:33
also, he hasn't fought world -level opponents
29:37
either. I mean, he's the best as far as Vladimir
29:40
Shishkin, and that's a pretty damn good opponent.
29:45
He knocked him out. That doesn't prove, that
29:48
doesn't prove a good amount. Of worth. But at
29:52
the same time, it's not... It's not no champion.
29:57
You know? I want to see him against a champion.
30:03
You know? And Munguia, I mean, yeah, you can
30:07
say what you want, but he fought Canelo. He survived.
30:11
Obviously, that weapon with Brunello was not
30:14
the greatest. You know? Got knocked out. But...
30:18
Came back. Had PED scam. I don't know. Either
30:22
way, a shot at the title is better than nothing.
30:25
You know? Yeah. And it could be Munguia's last
30:31
shot for a while. You never know. You think Kevin
30:37
Sajo couldn't turn this into something? Because
30:40
he gave a good account of himself. I feel like
30:44
you could put on a reality card. That's for sure.
30:46
Yeah, he can be an opponent again for someone.
30:50
Oh, they'll throw his ass to Zephyr. Oh, I forgot
30:55
about that. Oh, actually, we should talk about
30:57
that. We should talk about Zephyr real quick.
30:59
What's the word? That Ryo's going to be fighting.
31:05
Ryo's going to be fighting for Zephyr. He is?
31:08
Why? Yeah, out of all people, fucking Ryo. I
31:11
don't know. What the fuck? That's a crazy move
31:16
right there. I'm disappointed. Very, very disappointed.
31:21
Because out of all, I mean, first of all, first
31:24
of all, if Ryo's the best guy you're able to
31:27
get, that is not a good outlook for your company
31:29
right now. It's going to take years for them
31:31
to build their fires up. I mean, obviously they
31:35
said that, you know, well, obviously I heard
31:39
actually that they're trying to put Bam with
31:42
Zephyr. But I also saw that Robert is denying
31:45
those claims. But I don't know. The fact that
31:48
Ryo is going to fight for Zephyr, I don't know.
31:52
I feel like Robert should know that that's kind
31:55
of a dumb idea. I don't know. Is Ryo even with
31:59
Robert still? I don't know. Ryo disappeared since
32:05
that GAR fight. Yeah. Rivals with Zofo? How disappointing.
32:15
It's very disappointing. That's sad. I mean,
32:20
obviously, I mean, if you can be the best guy
32:22
in that, in that, you know, whatever it is, that
32:28
organization can go for it. You know, but at
32:32
the end of the day, you try your best over here,
32:34
if it doesn't work out, I guess you'll be the
32:38
lead man in another organization. Big fish in
32:41
a little pond? Exactly. Big fish in a little
32:44
pond. That's like, and we'll get to it soon,
32:45
but that's like annotating saying he was a fucking
32:47
kickboxing champion. But mind you, fucking bullshit.
32:55
Let's keep it rolling here. Wednesday, December
32:58
17th, No Limit Boxing Promotions at the TikTok
33:02
Entertainment Center in Sydney, Australia. Two
33:07
fights I was tracking. Sam Goodman gets the UD
33:10
over Tyler Blizzard. And Tim Zhu has a lackluster
33:18
performance against Anthony Velasquez. To say
33:22
the least. Yeah. For rebranding himself as the
33:26
Phoenix, getting a new trainer, changing things
33:30
up, he didn't look all that great. I can hope
33:37
that it's just because it's his first fight back
33:40
since his troubles. I can hope he can get better
33:45
from here, but that was not a very good performance.
33:50
I mean, he's going to be 31? I think. Early 30s.
33:58
He's kind of getting there in age soon. Not old
34:02
yet. He's going to be leaving his prime soon.
34:09
Yeah, and still hunting a title. He's had a title,
34:14
hasn't he? No, he had the B. I think the PC.
34:24
Yes. No. I don't think he's had one. He had the
34:33
interim. Oh, no. He got the full title. Brian
34:39
Mendoza. That's right. Yeah. All right. Let's
34:48
see. Taken at the Kokugikan in Tokyo. There were...
35:02
There was a good stoppage. Anthony Olaskwaga
35:05
got a stoppage in four. Over Taku Kuwahara. And
35:11
Old Man Donair still has it. Kind of. He loses
35:16
a split decision. Seiya Tsutsumi gets the WBA
35:19
bantamweight title. I still got it. Yep. I still
35:24
got it. Yeah, don't throw him out yet. Thursday,
35:30
December 18th. Pro Box. In Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
35:38
Joe Sean James. Majority of decision over Yohanler
35:42
Martinez. That's the first time I've ever seen
35:44
a double knockdown live. I thought that was pretty
35:48
cool. I didn't see this card, but I heard about
35:53
that. It sucks. Marlon Harrington gets a KO1
35:58
over Brian Polacco. Other stuff, other stuff.
36:03
Ramon Cardenas, big stoppage in five over Eric
36:06
Robles. Ramon looked good. Hey, call me an Uber
36:13
driver now. Yeah, no shit. You don't got to be
36:17
an Uber driver no more. Friday, December 19th.
36:23
MVP on Netflix. You know what this one is. The
36:27
Kaseya Center in Miami. Just getting it out of
36:32
the way, Anderson Silva stops Tyron Woodley.
36:35
Corner pulls the plug after the second, or in
36:39
the second. Pretty funny fight. Yeah, the size
36:45
disparity was comical. Two old guys going at
36:49
it. Avious Griffin gets a big stoppage, big knockout
36:55
in one. Caroline Dubois, UD, to defend her WBC
37:04
lightweight title. So that's fun. Jocasta Valle,
37:10
majority decision, sneaks it by. Undisputed bantamweight
37:17
champ, Sharnika Johnson, gets a UD. And three
37:22
-belt super featherweight champ, Alicia Baumgartner,
37:26
gets a UD. She fought 12 rounds by 3 minutes.
37:31
So that was cool. Oh yeah, that was not a bad
37:34
fight. I said 12 rounds by 3 minutes. I think
37:38
that's one of the first. That's why the WBC title
37:46
was not on the line for her. Because they refused
37:52
to sanction women's fights for 3 minutes. She
37:56
looked great in there. She looked great. We showed
37:58
her levels, obviously. Yeah, it's just really
38:03
dumb that the WBC doesn't refuses to allow three
38:08
minute rounds for women. I don't get it. And
38:11
I mean, at least your mom got it. She showed
38:13
her. She showed that it doesn't fucking matter.
38:15
Right. I mean, I think honestly that they should
38:18
be pushing for longer rounds. Anthony Joshua.
38:28
KO6. That was... I got to put my dad on the pod.
38:35
He's not here, but I got to put my dad on the
38:37
pod. Ever since that fight happened, he's been
38:39
trying to tell me that that fight was rigged.
38:43
How? Why? I got to tell him. I was like, Dad,
38:46
you can't fake a knockout like that. You can't
38:50
fake the injury. It's shown that he had a real
38:53
injury. Big ball got knocked out for once in
38:57
his fucking first time, huh? Yep. That shit.
39:02
Oh, that was fucking great, by the way. That
39:04
was like a Christmas miracle. Fucking amazing
39:07
scene. But you know what? I mean, I could tell
39:12
that AJ was taking it easy on him. I could tell.
39:17
But I got a feeling that he was planning to take
39:21
him out in round six. Because I know that he
39:24
said himself that he was planning on KOing him
39:27
from rounds four to six. I think that was the
39:31
plan. Some bullshit, though, I'll tell you that.
39:35
Why is that? Some bullshit that Jake, for half
39:39
the fight, the majority of the fight was fucking
39:40
horrendous. Oh, yeah, Jake Paul was fighting
39:43
like a scared little something or other. I don't
39:47
blame him. I mean, obviously, if he was fighting
39:49
Anthony Joshua, I mean, he knew that he had to
39:51
fucking run. You had to do what you had to do
39:54
to survive, but at the same time, nobody wanted
39:56
to watch that shit. I'm going to tell you this.
39:58
If the fight ended like that and it's the fucking
40:01
decision merchant bullshit, dude, that would
40:05
have been horrible. It would have been bad for
40:07
Joshua if he had... It would have been bad for
40:09
Joshua and for the sport in general. This is
40:13
the guy that's been at that world level. Anthony
40:18
Joshua, who just went to the decision with Jake
40:19
Paul in a horrible fight like this. Fucking horrendous.
40:23
But that didn't happen, obviously. After the
40:26
multiple amount of dick -sucking that Jake Paul
40:29
tried to do, Anthony Josh got him out. And it
40:34
was funny -ass KO. It was. Broken jaw. Broken
40:41
jaw, yeah. My dad says that the biggest reason
40:44
why Jake Paul wasn't really knocked out was because
40:47
once AJ knocked him down on the ground, Jake
40:53
Paul wasn't wobbly. I was like that. I mean,
40:57
I get it, but I mean, yeah, that's the first
41:01
time he's ever been down. I mean, we've seen
41:03
that happen before in the past when people are
41:04
like, oh shit, you know, but I mean, Jake Paul
41:08
kind of just quit before he was super, super,
41:11
super wobbly like that. You know, he was, I think
41:15
he looked pretty hurt leading up to the stoppage.
41:19
I don't, I don't think it was. I think he got
41:23
carried a little bit in the opening rounds, but...
41:26
When I say quit, I mean like he took a little
41:32
bit longer to get him than what was needed. And
41:36
I'll tell you this, though. That ref was on some
41:37
bullshit. What's his name? I don't even know
41:39
the referee's name. I've seen him a couple times.
41:42
He was the guy that was refereeing Tim Zu versus...
41:45
versus Berto Zaylo. Same guy, but... Tell you
41:52
this, that was a bullshit ref jump. No point
41:57
deduction for the amount of nut -hugging. Chris
42:00
Young is his name. Chris Young, yeah. No point
42:04
deduction at all. Come on. Yeah, that's that
42:14
clown show. That's enough time for that fucking
42:19
clown show. Yeah, that's how I want to give it.
42:23
Last two things really quick. The WBC Grand Prix
42:27
is over. The winners, heavyweight Kevin Ramirez,
42:34
featherweight Brandon Mejia, super lightweight
42:37
Carlos Utrilla, and middleweight Dylan Biggs.
42:43
Do you think they all get a... I think they'll
42:47
get a good spot in the WBC rankings. Based off
42:54
of this. Do you think they get any notoriety
42:57
from this? No. Unfortunately, no. Concept was
43:04
a really good idea. I think it was really nice.
43:07
But it just honestly didn't have a lot of...
43:09
Not a lot of star power names, you know? Right.
43:13
Not a lot of highlight reel KOs. That would get
43:19
the casuals. excited for it it was supposed to
43:21
be for like no names to get like fight for something
43:26
that something attainable yeah um i'm looking
43:32
for them in the rankings i don't see kevin ramirez
43:36
oh let's go to middleweight oh these are old
43:42
rankings that's why And Kevin Ramirez, I think,
43:51
was probably the highlight. I would say him and
43:58
Troy Nash. I think it's Troy Nash, right? I did
44:05
not keep up with it. I couldn't tell you. That's
44:08
what I'm saying. I tried to keep up with it a
44:09
little bit, but kind of lost any love for it
44:14
because it was in a fucking Saudi warehouse.
44:21
Not a lot of hype behind this Grand Prix in general.
44:24
You know? Yeah. I don't know. It just didn't
44:31
have a lot of buzz. That's all I got to say.
44:32
It just didn't have a lot of buzz. I don't think
44:35
these guys are going to make it far with their
44:38
names. Okay, so Kevin Ramirez is from Argentina.
44:50
Heavyweight ranks He's not even in here that's
44:59
crazy So like what was what was the point of
45:05
the tournament All right, they probably plays
45:11
kind of give up on it too. Yeah, it's it's weird
45:18
Dylan Biggs. Okay. And how is Dylan Biggs, the
45:23
winner, ranked below Derek Pomerleau, the loser?
45:30
That is some backwards shit. All right. WBC going
45:34
to do WBC things. Moving on to the last recap.
45:41
Salida promotions in Detroit. Tony Harrison.
45:45
Unk still got it. KO4 over Brian Chavez. Looked
45:50
pretty good. Unk still got it. That's all I'm
45:54
going to say. He called out Errol Spence, which
45:56
is spun. That's actually not a bad fight. Not
46:04
a bad fight if it even happens. If it happens,
46:07
yeah. It's going to be 2026. It's going to be
46:09
three years since Spence has fought. And previews.
46:19
We don't have a lot of them for this week. We
46:24
got to talk about Andrew Tate versus Chase D
46:27
'Amore. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Another
46:31
influencer gets humbled. They were both doing
46:40
a lot of fucking knob slobbing. Jake Paul and
46:47
Andrew Tate. Yeah, like they were constantly
46:49
falling to their knees. Like, what the hell are
46:52
you doing? Andrew Tate lost any of the last amount
46:55
of masculinity he had in that ring last night.
46:59
Yeah, I guess. I thought he was like a champion
47:03
kickboxer. In like some shitty league. Oh, it
47:06
was a shit league. Okay. Yeah. So, never mind.
47:14
He's just a douchebag. He's nice as a douchebag.
47:19
He can go fuck himself. Another one that we didn't...
47:27
I don't have on here, but Murat Gassiev knocked
47:33
out Kubrat Pulev. Interesting fucking fight.
47:37
In six rounds. Still got it? Yeah. Yeah, I see
47:44
we got to do that Usyk rematch next, right? That
47:48
would be a fun one for Usyk to do. Yeah, that
47:53
would be funny. They say you got Wilder. Previews.
48:00
Only to the Japanese are doing their end of year.
48:08
They do fight sports all leading up to New Year.
48:12
They do wrestling, MMA, kickboxing, like everything.
48:17
The boxing card on the 31st, Shisei Promotions
48:23
in Oda, Tokyo. I don't recognize anybody on here
48:32
except for Kazuto Ioka. That's about it. Me neither.
48:37
I have no idea who anyone else is. But boxing
48:43
on New Year's, so that's fun. That's Sonata's
48:47
game right there. Yeah. Saturday, January 3rd,
48:54
to kick off the New Year, MVP on DAZN, Amanda
48:59
Serrano defends her WBO featherweight title versus
49:05
Reyna Tellez. I don't really recognize anyone
49:08
on this card either. Jean -Paul Rivera. I've
49:14
seen him on these MVP cards before. Ebony Bridges,
49:21
I know, is certainly a fighter. Something. Holly
49:30
Holm is fighting Stephanie Hahn, so that's cool.
49:34
That's going to be a fight? Yeah. And yeah, Amanda
49:40
Serrano. In the main event. Be interesting to
49:44
watch her come back. Hopefully they do 12x3.
49:51
I don't think she's ever been in a 12x3 fight.
49:53
No, I don't think she has. She should, though.
50:01
That's it, though. It's a light week. Very light
50:07
week. And we still got the end of year best picks
50:13
will be coming up. Going to wait for Josh to
50:16
get back for those. 100%. We got to hear his
50:20
takes. Yeah. I definitely want to hear his thoughts
50:22
on Crawford, too. We got to hear what he's got
50:28
to say. Yeah. That's it, though. We have caught
50:34
up to wrap up 2025. So, yeah. Parting words.
50:43
What do you got? Huh? We'll see you guys next
50:48
year. Yep. See you next year. See you guys next
50:52
year. That's it for this edition of the Boxing
50:55
B -Sides. Fucking see you in 26. Last edition,
50:59
2035. Take care. Peace.