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Entering Baroness Victory - Chapter 13 This Inevitable Ruin · The Apocalypse Will Be Podcasted

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Hello, and this is the Apocalypse Will Be Podcasted.
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We are a married couple from Atlanta with boring
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day jobs. We have been together 12 years, and
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we usually create a lot of weird performance
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art to entertain people. But we are trying our
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hand at having a podcast because we have had
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an obsession lately, and that obsession is Dungeon
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Crawler Carl. This is a spoilers podcast, and
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we will be discussing plot points from all seven
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Dungeon Crawler Carl books. You should not start
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this podcast until you have finished book seven.
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We will not be discussing anything from Patreon
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or the Pineapple Cabaret. There are spoilers
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from this point forward. Be warned. Well, in
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this chapter, Mongo is not appalled, but Donut
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most certainly is. She is absolutely very appalled.
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This week's chapter is a bit of a shorter chapter,
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so this might be a shorter episode, but... Every
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time we say that, the episode ends up being like
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an hour long. So we'll see how it goes. And I
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think for being short, this chapter does have
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a outsized influence. But I think for me, that's
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just because Baroness Victory is my favorite
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character. This is where she gets introduced.
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And her intro is just so great. It really is.
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I think Florin might have fallen in love. Me
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too, a little bit. Yeah. Speaking of Florin,
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he's a total snark machine in this chapter, which
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I really enjoy. But I told someone that my favorite
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Dungeon Crawler Carl characters, besides the
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obvious Donut Samantha, are Princess Formidable
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and Baroness Victory. And, you know, the friend
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I was talking to was very surprised. But I think...
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Why? You know... I didn't ask him to expand.
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This is before the podcast. I should have told
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him I needed him to tell me for the content.
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Right. Yeah. But he was missed opportunities.
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But he was surprised. And, you know, I think
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one of the things that I really like about these
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books is that the maestro and Prince Stalwart
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are shown as just like kind of cartoonishly bad
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assholes. So I think it's kind of neat that we
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see with King Russ later in this book. we see
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with Princess Vermittable, we see with Baroness
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Victory, that it's not just all the orcs are
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bad. There can be a lot of nuance. And I think
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that both Baroness Victory and Princess Vermittable
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are very nuanced, which is why I like them so
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much. Yeah, they definitely are. And like King
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Rust's character, he only plays a very small
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role in this book, but it was a very interesting
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insight to kind of see and get an idea of what
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he's like. We do obviously get a very, I think,
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skewed view of him and his character because
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of the position that he was in and basically
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fearing that the failsafe was going to get blown.
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So he was kind of in this like last resort, everything,
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all hope is lost kind of mentality. But I think
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still compared to his sons, you could see that
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he seemed to be a much more reasonable person.
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And his two sons are just kind of, what's the
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word? Terrible, awful little children, basically.
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I mean, he says he's disappointed in both of
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them. And then Donut gets to shove that back
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into Prince Stalwart's face. Yeah, definitely.
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And we do get a little bit more insight about
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the orcs based on what Baroness Victory tells
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us in the next chapter. And I'm excited to talk
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about that. Absolutely. So as we noted, Donut
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is appalled. So basically the chapter starts
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out with Tina breaking out of the... big room
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that she's in and she's hopping around shouting
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papa at mongo and in the audiobook the voice
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that jeff does is is very guttural and bass heavy
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it's pretty intense but also delightful well
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and i think that because mongo is a fan favorite
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character that they really wanted to give him
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some kind of like storyline or arc and um it's
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an interesting one It gets a little weird. It
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definitely does get a little weird. It's definitely
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interesting to see, okay, we need to, like, figure
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out some plot related to this dinosaur. What
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can we come up with? Hmm. Yeah, so basically,
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though, you know, Mongo is kind of, like, he's
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excited to see Big Tina, but he's also kind of,
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like, confused. Like, not really sure what's
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going on or, like, how to feel. And then QE ends
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up coming out, you know, and sees Mongo and...
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pretty much says hi to him and you can tell like
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Mongo recognizes her but like he knows like something's
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off and at some point it says he lets out a forlorn
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squeak or peep which is it's a little sad. Yeah
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but she is very pregnant. She is extremely pregnant
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ready to pop pregnant and honestly I'm surprised
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that her giving birth doesn't happen earlier
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in the book it happens nearly all the way at
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the end. And when it does end up happening, I
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was there was so much going on. I was kind of
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like, there's no time for this right now. This
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is this is sorry, guys. Like, no, I agree. They
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were like, it's an emergency. Kiwi is giving
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birth. You all have to come here right now. And
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I was like, does everyone have to show up for
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that? Wasn't that in like the last hour of the
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dungeon? empress is melting everything yeah i
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do believe it was a bit of a manufactured uh
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you know emergency in my opinion i i think they
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could have you know lived without lived without
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witnessing the birth but that is an amazing scene
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so i get why they include it but yeah definitely
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it happening so late in the book is kind of like
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Okay. Okay. Sorry, guys. There's some important
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stuff happening. It was kind of like in Stranger
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Things and spoiler alert for the last season
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of Stranger Things when like they're on the other
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alien planet off to kill the whatever the thing
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is called. And they're just kind of casually
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walking along on this alien fucking planet, like
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talking about their feelings and just. kind of
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being super casual and taking their time. And
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I was like sitting there screaming like, what
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are you doing? Yeah, apparently Jonathan and
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Nancy had to break up like while they were dying.
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Apparently. All right. So back to what's going
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on. Jonah is not very thrilled with this whole
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reunion. And we do get the quote of the week,
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which I think is something we're going to start
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doing moving forward. And who's reading it? Me.
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Okay. Okay. So the quote of the week is, Carl,
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if this turns into some weird furry porn thing,
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I am going to lose my absolute shit. Fair. Very
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fair. And after that, Mongo and Kiwi have a little
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hug. And Mongo, again, seems a little sad and
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confused. And Carl tells him, sometimes people
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change and that's all there is to it. Which is
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a very, very true quote. Sometimes people do
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change for better or worse. There's not much
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we can do about that. Well, something I would
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like to highlight is that it states again that
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Kiwi was transformed during a Skolopendra nine
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tier attack. And all I'm going to say related
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to that, it is it is two months until we can
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talk about book eight. And that is going to be
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a huge relief. So we were like we were at a festival
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and we were camping and the last few chapters
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of book eight were being posted on Matt's Patreon.
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Like we were taking time to like sit down and
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go and just read like at the peak of night of
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the festival because it was that good and that
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intense. And like we had to know what was going
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to happen. I got caught reading one time when
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I wasn't supposed to. I looked over and I was
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like, are you reading? Are you reading right
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now? We're supposed to be doing that together.
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Yeah. And definitely there were some other Dungeon
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Crawler Carl fans there and we were telling them
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about the Patreon and that like we were like
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finishing book eight that weekend and they were
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like. what and we were like get on the patreon
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we can't say it enough times join matt's patreon
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it is worth your five dollars a month it definitely
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is but i do also understand i mean at this point
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it's finished on the patreon but i do understand
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a lot of people have said like no i want to wait
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until it's all out you know i don't want to have
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to like wait for another chapter to be released
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and and i definitely understand that and i know
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some people are just audiobook listeners, which
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I primarily am, but obviously I read the entirety
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of book eight on the Patreon, but I am really,
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really looking forward to the audible experience
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of book eight. I'm really excited. There are
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definitely times when I'm reading and I feel
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like things don't hit as hard emotionally because
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I'm reading it, but I know that when I listen
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to it and with the inflection of Jeff narrating
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everybody's voices, I know it's going to hit
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a lot harder. Okay, we got to get back on topic
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here. Well, and we're probably going to put a
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timestamp on this where if you want to go into
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book eight completely unspoiled, you can skip
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that part. I don't think we really spoiled anything
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there. Some people don't want to know anything.
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All right. Nothing happened. So moving on. I
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was not like completely destroyed and what the
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fuck like multiple times. Yeah. All right. Again,
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moving on. So Lauren does make a pretty funny
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comment to Carl and he says, I wonder how that
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letter is going to turn out. Yep. Yep, as you
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should. It's interesting. So they walk into their
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headquarters, their castle, which is called the
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Fortress of Unyielding Power and Authority. And
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Donut does not like that name at all. And she's
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like, why did it get named that? We need to name
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it something else. And basically, Florin tells
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them that they can't. Rename it because the NPC
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team and the Sledge were going back and forth
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naming it, and they did it too many times, and
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then it got stuck on the Fortress of Unyielding
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Power and Authority. But the Sledge did try to
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rename it to Los Santos, and Florin says he doesn't
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know why, but that's because the Sledge has played
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a lot of Grand Theft Auto throughout the course
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of these books, which is just very amusing. I'm
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not sure which Grand Theft Auto that's from,
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but I know it is from that somebody. Somebody
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listening will definitely know exactly where
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that's from. Well, and Carl says that the reason
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he got stuck on FUPA and the AI won't let them
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change it anymore is the AI thinks it's funny.
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I am not going to explain what a FUPA is here.
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If you do not know, Google with caution. F -U
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-P -A. Look it up carefully. Jonah hates it.
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She thinks it is obscene. And she's like, how
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do I make people do what I say? Nobody can say
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that. What do I need to do in the Warlord menu?
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Sorry, Donut. Yeah, she wants to make a direct
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order to not call it that. Mm -hmm. So, sorry,
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Donut. And then Florin immediately drops it in
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the chat, and there is a bunch of chatter going
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back and forth, and Ellie is with Carl and thinks
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it's hilarious. Amani is like, absolutely not,
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and she agrees with Donut. Also tracks. Yep,
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yep. And Carl's like, yeah, this is definitely
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going to become a theme thing with, you know,
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half the people calling it one thing and half
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the people calling it another thing. Yeah, well,
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Carl asked Donut what she would have named it,
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and she says that she cannot create when she's
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angry, but she probably would have named it Club
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Posse. That is kind of a boring name. I can see
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why the NPCs wouldn't be thrilled with it. Yeah,
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I do wonder what a good alternate name is. Donut
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Holes, but Donut wouldn't like that either. No,
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no, not at all. They are walking through their
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stronghold, and Carl notes that it's kind of
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laid out like a... you know, standard medieval
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castle. Of course, you know, I don't know how
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Carl knows what a standard medieval castle is
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like, I guess just from various media. He's been
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to Disneyland. But he says that there are murder
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holes along the walls, which is a new term. Yeah,
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that's a new term for me. I'm not sure where
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he pulled that from. No, they're definitely something
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that exists in all castles, but they're usually
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not called murder holes. I don't know what the
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actual term is, but yeah, what he's referring
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to is like the holes in the wall where like archers
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could shoot arrows out of or, you know, for people
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to just be able to like keep watch without being
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super out in the open. Yeah, susceptible to enemy
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fire of some kind. So Carl says that the castle
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is sturdy, but it looks like shit. I did have
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some fun trying to imagine what it must look
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like. Right. And we get some great snark from
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the AI here, where Carl examines one of the rocks,
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and the AI says, it's a rock. What did you expect?
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Kind of like that manna toast. Exactly. And so
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same kind of thing. And we get some info dumping
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about the castle and the throne room, if you
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want to cover some of that, Nikki. So Carl notes
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that the throne room can lock. The door can have
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traps as well, but inside the room they cannot
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have any kind of defensive features or traps,
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but they can have guards inside of the throne
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room, which is interesting that that's the mechanics
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of it. Carl also notes that some of the outer
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hallways are really big. To be able to accommodate
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Tina. And then some of the larger tattoo turned
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flesh golems. That came from Cygnet. And yeah
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so they still have some of those guys in their
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army as well. Carl sees some bugbears run by
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that are working on stuff. And he knows that
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those are actually some of his changelings. That
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he still has in their army as well. And I don't
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feel like they really end up putting these changelings
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to much use at all. Especially not. Not to the
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effect of them being changelings and maybe being
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able to use them for some kind of subversion
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or spying. I would say, damn it, I really want
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to talk about Book 8, but I can't. Carl looks
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on the map and sees that Herman, the third strongman
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from Grimaldi Circus, is in a room near the flag
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room. And basically, so he was a three -headed
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noddling that died and split. And he was one
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of the three. And then there's a tattoo version
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of him or one of his brothers supposedly running
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around somewhere. Does that mean there's six
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of them? I don't think there's six of them, but
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there are like some different versions. I know
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at least one of the versions died at some point.
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Like they didn't all come to this floor, but
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there is a tattoo version of one of these guys
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running around somewhere. There is some lampshade
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hanging from Carl here. Where he says that he
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doesn't like to think about it. Because it makes
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his brain hurt. And he says that he felt the
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same way about Alpha Carl. Where he thought that
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that must just be very confusing for everyone.
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And that he's just relieved that that is left
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on the last floor. And no one has to think about
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it again. Although that means no more Patrick
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Warburton cameos. And we all want that. I mean
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they might still find a use for Patrick Warburton
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at some point. And I do like. love that they
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brought Patrick Warburton in to be the voice
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of Alpha Carl in book eight or on floor eight
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and I assume they did that very deliberately
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because Jeff Hayes sounded a lot like Patrick
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Warburton in the earlier books which is a big
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complaint from a lot of people when they start
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listening to the books they're like this guy
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doesn't sound like a 28 year old like he sounds
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like Patrick Warburton well guess what Patrick
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Warburton always sounded like that even when
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he was young so yeah I kind of want to know how
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old he was when he voiced Kronk and we're probably
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going to insert that in. Somewhere along the
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line. But I mean, like some people just have
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really deep voices from a very young age. There's
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this guy that I worked with, like he just had
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this super deep, like gravelly voice, even though
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he was like 20. I mean, some of my uncles were
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going gray in college. So like sometimes there
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are just quirks like that. There definitely are.
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So we had to pause for a moment, and I was able
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to look it up, and Patrick Warburton was 36 when
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he voiced Kronk in The Emperor's New Group, just
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in case you wanted to know. Yeah, which is a
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pretty reasonable age, I guess, for your voice
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to start getting deeper, but I know he sounded
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like that even when he was younger. Back to what's
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going on here. They are having a secret conversation.
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They are still walking to the throne room, and
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Carl asks if they can have secret chat. In case
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the walls still literally have ears. Literally?
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I don't know about literally. I think that a
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spy could turn into a rock, personally. Can a
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changeling turn into a rock? Maybe. He says they
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can't. I guess, yeah. You know, there's in the
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game RuneScape that I've mentioned many times
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and many of you will be familiar with. There
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is a ring that you can wear that changes you
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into a rock. And I would absolutely... Fucking
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love it. If there was a ring or some kind of
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item that a character could get that turned them
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into a rock, that would be so funny. It would
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be another joke that only certain people would
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get, like the Los Santos Grand Theft Auto thing.
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Right, right, exactly. But the reason they're
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having this secret chat is Carl wants to ask
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Florin about their spy network, and he says that
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Ellie is on the Naga border, and then the Beaver
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guys, the Werecasters, and Edgar the Turtle are
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on the other border. And I think that's the border
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that Florin is going to be fighting at for most
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of the ramp up. I believe so. And Carl also asks
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Florin how these peacetime incursions work. So
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basically, only scouts can go into enemy territory
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during the peacetime. And if they are discovered,
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they get teleported back to base and can't go
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stealth again until the fighting starts. It's
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super important they don't get caught. And they
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can't be attacked, but they can be killed by
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traps. Yeah, don't die in a trap, I guess. Yeah,
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and they've already caught two spies, and Florin
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thinks there's more, and he says once the towers
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are up, then they should have better control
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over the situation. Yeah, they've got to get
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some scouting towers up where they can have different
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enchantments and mages and such that have, I
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think, tripper spells, proper observation, and
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king spells. And Florin is definitely right that
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there are other spies in their midst. Quite.
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Quite a few, as we find out in a few chapters
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from now. Big problems, big problems for everyone.
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Yeah, definitely. It's almost like everyone's
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cheating but them. Maybe. Yeah, very much so
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maybe. Lauren mentions Princess Denadia of the
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Prism Kingdom and Jonette scoffs very aggressively.
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Yeah, definitely. And I was actually reading
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a little bit about this earlier. I firmly believe
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that these books are anti -capitalism and that
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there's a lot of critiques of capitalism in it.
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And basically something that like I hadn't caught
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on to, but I think is pretty insightful, is that
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basically these people like Empress Denadia are
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using the crawl is like an ad for their home
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planets or for their own purposes. And it's basically
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like they're using Carl and Donut just like.
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for content creation without their permission.
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And, of course, that's what the entire crawl
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is. Yeah, the crawlers don't have any agency.
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Yeah, but they don't have the chance to actually
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get mad at, like, the Boren Corporation. Like,
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they don't deal with just one person from Boren
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who they can be mad at, whereas, you know, it's
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a lot easier to be mad at someone like Princess
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Denadia that they feel like they've interacted
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with, they had a relationship with, she had sympathy
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for. And then she was just farming them for content.
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She was, and then she tried to get them deleted.
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She didn't make anybody mad. Yeah, through an
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emergency action item. And that got shot down
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by the AI, rightfully so. Can you imagine? That's
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just how the series ended. I don't think anyone's
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gotten deleted so far. Um, not, no, no. No one's
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been deleted. There is one of the chapters between
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chapters, stories of former cookbook authors
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where someone does, get deleted by the system
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AI in a previous season for refusing to follow
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orders and just basically stops existing. Kind
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of dark, but yeah. That doesn't happen in these
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books so far. Not in the current timeline. Not
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in the current timeline, yes, exactly. Lauren
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lets Carl know that they have lots of traps going
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on and that there is a trap master who's going
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to come and help them out just a slight. But
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he is currently underground, but he's going to
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be coming up soon. And apparently he can do something
21:02
to prevent tripper spells, which would be extremely
21:06
helpful, especially because, I mean, we've seen
21:08
how much chaos Carl can cause with his tripper
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spell. So, yeah, if they had a bunch of people
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coming into their fortress and casting tripper
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or on their defensive lines and such, that's
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going to create some problems. Yeah, I think
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the Justice Light might be a little bit like
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Gandalf and that he calls all time soon, though.
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because I do not think he actually comes up that
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soon. And it's interesting because Justice Light
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does surprisingly little in this book. Like he's
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underground working on this grand plan that he's
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told everyone about, but it kind of like never
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seems to come to fruition. Well... I think it
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does happen that he set up at the end of book
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seven would take a lot of preparation and does
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take up all his time. So as far as the grand
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plan that he's telling Carl and everyone else
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about, I don't think it's actually going to happen.
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I don't think he ever intended for it to happen.
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I think it's a lie. Yeah. And I guess it's like
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the celestial trap that he sets off with the
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bijou fairies and opening the nothing into the
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different skull of Pindra levels. Like you think
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that was it? I think that was the plan all along.
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Absolutely. Okay. And I don't think he wanted
22:18
to tell everyone else about it because it's fucking
22:20
crazy. Yeah, it definitely is. And I mean, I
22:23
think Carl makes a comment some point later that
22:26
Rosetta and Justice Light both came into the
22:30
dungeon with like their own agendas. And it seems
22:33
like Justice Light basically like put 100 % of
22:37
his effort into this agenda of making the trap.
22:40
At least Rosetta like did other things to help.
22:42
But it doesn't seem like Justice Light did much
22:44
to help with what was happening on the Faction
22:46
Wars floor. No, but I think that that's okay
22:50
because I think the larger plan that he did have
22:54
going furthered the overall group's goals more
22:59
than anything else. Yeah. Well, I guess we'll
23:02
have to see. We'll have to see how it ends up.
23:04
Grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble. This is really
23:07
hard. Not talking about Book 8 is really hard.
23:09
I wish I hadn't read it before it came out. No,
23:12
I think that he is furthering everyone's goals
23:14
more than... Especially Carl's goals of chaos.
23:18
Well, and I think that's why Carl is ultimately
23:21
very sympathetic to Justice Light and Rosetta
23:24
having their own agenda. Because we see many
23:27
times in the books where Carl has his own agenda
23:29
that he does not let other people in on. I mean,
23:32
yes, that is definitely true. And that's something
23:34
we've talked about a few times. Carl likes to
23:37
do things without telling anybody about them.
23:41
like deactivating the failsafe. Pretty big one
23:44
there. Yeah, I mean, I think it's just the nature
23:47
of the dungeon and the nature of being on a reality
23:51
TV show. Donut is another person who certainly
23:53
has her own agenda, like most of the books that
23:57
she doesn't let anyone else in on. So I think
24:00
that that's just something that people will forgive
24:03
in others because they've all done it themselves.
24:05
Well, and I think that sometimes it's hard to
24:09
like talk about. any of these things like I know
24:11
they have their secret bathroom messaging system
24:13
but I think it's only so effective it's only
24:16
so effective and yeah I mean like they're just
24:18
they're under so much scrutiny also poor donut
24:21
can't write with her mouth no but but they're
24:23
under so much scrutiny that like it's hard to
24:26
you know even let anybody know about their secret
24:28
plans because the likelihood of it getting like
24:30
discovered in some way by the system AI or the
24:33
other powers that be somehow monitoring that
24:35
risks are just really high Well, they all have
24:38
a high level of trust in each other and that
24:40
they have an understanding that they don't have
24:44
to understand or know what the other people are
24:47
doing. Yeah, that's true. And I think that was
24:50
actually really highlighted in one of the last
24:53
chapters where the former crawlers showed up
24:55
where, you know, it was clear that everyone in
24:58
the room had pretty deep reservations about what
25:00
was going on and felt that they were missing
25:04
a lot of information, but they trusted Carl.
25:06
Yeah. That is absolutely true. I mean, everyone
25:10
knows Carl's a crazy son of a bitch, but they
25:12
also trust his intuition and trust that usually
25:16
he's right, no matter how crazy his plans might
25:18
seem. Yeah, definitely. Yep. All right. So moving
25:21
on from here, they keep making their way towards
25:25
the flag room and they move into the antechamber,
25:28
which is a room adjacent to the flag room. And
25:31
this is where Herman, the part of the three -headed
25:35
noddling. is sitting at a desk and he's been
25:39
put in glasses, which Carl notes must be the
25:42
AI's attempt to indicate that he is smarter than
25:47
his brothers. But he sat at a desk and he is
25:51
covered in head to toe and more magical gear
25:54
than Carl has ever seen. Like he is lit up like
25:57
a Christmas tree, basically. But he's not working
26:00
as it appeared. Rather, he seems to be writhing
26:04
in pain. Yeah, and it turns out that he's not
26:07
wearing a bunch of magical gear. He is just covered
26:09
in explosives. A bunch of bombs. And Carl yells
26:13
out, bomb. And then this is one of those parts
26:17
of the books where a bunch of things happen all
26:19
at once. But Tippett turns into a puff of smoke.
26:23
Thorn hits the ground with some kind of protective
26:25
shield forming over him. Donut blasts Herman
26:28
in the face with a magic missile. And then enters
26:33
Freeze. Favorite character. Yeah. And then Baroness
26:37
Victory enters and she just slams a battle axe
26:40
into his head. And this is just such a great
26:43
intro. It's so badass. And it says the chaos
26:47
ended just as quickly as it started. And Baroness
26:51
Victory is just so casual about the fact that
26:55
she just walked in and destroyed this dude. And
26:58
she starts yelling at the AI and fighting with
27:01
the AI. And then she says that she's going to
27:04
try to get Donut credit for the kill because
27:06
that should have worked. Mm hmm. Yeah. It's kind
27:10
of like everyone's like, not sure if she was
27:13
allowed to do that. Carl's like, what are you
27:16
allowed to act on our behalf like that? And basically,
27:19
Aaron's victory says that this was an illegal
27:21
assassination attempt. I dream exerting undue
27:25
influence onto an elite. Do you think this is
27:29
kind of like going back? a little bit but i do
27:31
think it's interesting that it said that he was
27:33
writhing in pain and i don't think that that
27:36
was like because he was covered in bombs so either
27:39
i think that that was because they were trying
27:41
to like directly control his actions and that's
27:45
like not how it's supposed to work and so that
27:48
was causing him actual pain especially because
27:50
like i think it was obvious that he was trying
27:52
to like resist you know the control being exerted
27:56
over him Yeah, and we do see some insane cheating
27:59
in this book. There's a lot of cheating. These
28:03
outside factions are a bunch of cheating assholes.
28:06
Yeah, but everyone's just kind of in shock from
28:09
Baroness Victory's entrance. But he is still
28:12
covered in bombs. And Baroness Victory is like,
28:16
okay, this lead is dead. I killed him, but I
28:19
can only do so much for you. And Carl is like,
28:21
oh shit, right. He needs to go in my inventory
28:23
so the bombs don't go off. Which is crazy that
28:26
works. Yeah, it is. It's a good thing that they're
28:28
able to pull corpses into their inventory. I
28:31
mean, we see this later in the books when they
28:33
just create a giant mass grave, essentially,
28:37
of corpses. Yeah, I wonder how much stuff is
28:42
in Carl's inventory. But again, this is one of
28:44
those things where it's in his inventory now,
28:46
but he can't really pull it out because it's
28:48
just going to explode pretty shortly after. This
28:51
corpse covered in bombs comes out of his inventory.
28:54
Though I do wonder, he could probably, within
28:56
his inventory, maybe remove those items. Or maybe
28:59
apps. And then he could pull the bombs out at
29:01
his bomber studio crafting bench. I just want
29:05
him to throw a dead elite at someone. That's
29:07
what I want. Just, like, chuck them off a side
29:10
of their castle at some people. Yeah, that's
29:13
great. I'm so sad that didn't happen. If only.
29:16
But yeah, like Bree said, Baroness Victory is
29:19
yelling at the AI saying like, you need to reread
29:22
your own rules because I was allowed to do that.
29:25
And you didn't tell me that the dream was like
29:28
exerting undue influence onto an elite. And then
29:31
like, she just stops talking for a minute and
29:33
she's like, okay, I accept your apology. Which
29:35
is just fantastic. Thank God for Baroness Victory
29:38
and the adjutants. Like the adjutants, I do think
29:42
we don't see all of them, but like. like, Rick,
29:45
and then there's another adjutant that we see.
29:48
Yeah. Prime Minister Fopsy. Yeah, they're all,
29:51
like, interesting characters, and I think that
29:53
they do a pretty good job as being mostly neutral
29:57
observers. Yeah, I do think Baroness Victory
30:00
is the right one, is the best one, and they chose
30:02
correctly, though. Definitely. And this is where
30:05
Florin is like, I don't know if I should be terrified
30:09
or in love, and I think both. The answer is always
30:13
both in these books. Join us next week when Baroness
30:16
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30:19
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