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- 0:00G'day, that's right, it's that time again, time for Cinema Yuge!
- 0:08Music.
- 0:18Yes Yuge Nights, the 12 to Midnight Tapes
- 0:22Part 2 continues with the man behind
- 0:25the camera also co-wrote the screenplay
- 0:29the mighty mark macho man
- 0:32savage australian-born filmmaker sold
- 0:35his first feature marauders to the international market at age 24 he has maintained
- 0:40a non-stop production pace in australia and the u.s ever since on projects as
- 0:46diverse from the action comedy sensitive new age killer a documentary on action
- 0:50superstar jackie chan and beyond Mr. Nice Guy.
- 0:54The action thriller, Narrow Gauge, Trail of Passion, The Sentimental Assassin, Defenseless.
- 1:02Pond Scum, Stress to Kill, Purgatory Road, and Painkiller Savage has recently
- 1:08completed principal photography and action thriller Bring Him Back Dead.
- 1:13For producers Jeff Miller, Mark L. Lester,
- 1:18the film stars Daniel Baldwin, Gary Daniels, louis
- 1:21mandalore next up he is the advocate for
- 1:25an la based turik films and two
- 1:28untitled action thrillers more
- 1:32bronzeploitation but the film out right now 12 to midnight these are the 12
- 1:3712 to midnight tapes and this is the mighty macho man mark kevin savage welcome to Cinemayugin, mate.
- 1:52Great to be at Cinemayugin. And...
- 1:55Good to be in Queensland with you. Yeah.
- 2:00Since I'm from Victoria myself, so I basically.
- 2:04Yeah. It's not often I hear a familiar accent. Usually they're all.
- 2:09Yes. I can't say they're not familiar, but I mean. Yeah.
- 2:15It's nice. It's nice to talk to an Australian, albeit, you know.
- 2:20I feel the same way. It's great. It's great to talk to an Australian too.
- 2:24No, I always get that when I talk to Australian people.
- 2:28It's nice to hear the taste of home.
- 2:32It's like veggie toast and wheat picks and bananas or whatever your preference may be.
- 2:40Mark, it's great to have you, mate. Love the movie.
- 2:4412 to midnight. I'm a bit of a bronzeploitation aficionado, so it's always exciting to see a new one.
- 2:51And I very nearly got offered twice to write one, So the universe is trying
- 2:55to sell me something. Maybe third time's the charm. We'll wait and see.
- 2:59Yeah, well, this is the second one that I wrote. Okay, cool.
- 3:02Because there's another one with
- 3:05Jeff Miller that was going to be set in Hungary. We still won't make it.
- 3:11So that's called Dig Two Graves. Okay.
- 3:15And that's also another one where Bronzy is a cop in that one.
- 3:20In fact, he's a cop from the UK is a story that goes back to Hungary and gets
- 3:28involved in a whole lot of very sort of nasty, you know, a lot of nasty nonsense.
- 3:34But, yeah, it's definitely another Bronsploitation movie that I hope at some point we will do.
- 3:41Awesome. Sounds cool. I'm on board. I'm there. Take all my money.
- 3:45But before we get into all the Bronsploitation, goodness, I'm just looking back
- 3:50over your credits and see you did a lot of cinematography for like DVD extras,
- 3:57a lot of movies I really love, like The Blob.
- 4:01Alligator, Big Trouble in China, JFK.
- 4:06Man, what was it like to sit in the room with like Oliver Stone or Nicolas Cage
- 4:11or have you got Nicolas Cage?
- 4:13Yeah, actually pretty – it was funny because –,
- 4:17I mean, I know they're bad to give, like, an interview, so it's not like an
- 4:21interview. Yeah, no, it was very interesting because it wasn't like a press
- 4:25junket where you're at a studio. I'm at their house.
- 4:29Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to run and I'm going in and, you know,
- 4:32sometimes, you know, their assistant or their wife is there.
- 4:35And in the case of Nick Cage, like, he's a very lovely wife and a newborn baby were there as well.
- 4:41So, you know, it was wonderful, actually.
- 4:45Nick Cage was wonderful. and then all of that stone was i've been
- 4:48there several times to uh because i interviewed
- 4:51him um did an interview i'm related to natural born
- 4:54killers jfk and also oh
- 4:58alexander i did another one recently so yeah
- 5:01i mean i have to kind of think about it later on i think back
- 5:04oh my god i was just at oliver stone's house yeah and
- 5:08it is kind of weird because i've always i mean i i love
- 5:11his movies but at the same time i can't i
- 5:14can't be like there as the complete fanboy you
- 5:17know because i'm shooting it and and
- 5:20and you know you know sort of setting it up and
- 5:23everything and initially initially i was kind of like self-conscious
- 5:26when i first started doing those because i was thinking are they
- 5:29are they really looking at the way i'm i'm lighting it and
- 5:32more like you know what i mean because but i've been doing it for a long time now going
- 5:35way back to a company called subversive cinema that i
- 5:38went for and so it's almost like
- 5:41a it's almost like a parallel career that i
- 5:44have like i make i make features i also do
- 5:46commercials as well so like the features and commercials and
- 5:50then and corporates and then also do the
- 5:53interviews and yeah i've met a lot of interesting people.
- 5:56Like yeah like cage and even australians like james
- 5:59juan and leewannell yeah and and
- 6:02cage was and yes i said cage was great and interviewed him
- 6:05for bringing out the dead right yeah he
- 6:09was very complimentary very humble guy and what i also loved
- 6:12to see that he also had posters in the
- 6:14background of films like creature from the black lagoon and
- 6:17all that so he's a real cinephile as well so yeah yeah that's like talk to him
- 6:22about that you know yeah that's that's actually one of the things that that
- 6:26really interests me about people in the business is you've got to remember that
- 6:32they are also fans and movie nerds.
- 6:37Yeah. And I love to get into, you know, when the conversation drifts maybe away
- 6:43from the subject a little bit and you mention a movie, oh, geez, yeah, I love that movie.
- 6:47Yeah. And then all of a sudden it's not, okay, it's Nicolas Cage and it's you
- 6:53and you're there to do a job.
- 6:54You guys just talk about movies that they love, you know what I mean?
- 6:57Well, I did that a little bit with Stone, I mean, at one point with Stone,
- 7:01I just, I mean, it was more like when you were packing up. I actually just,
- 7:04as an aside, said to him, I think that your film Talk Radio,
- 7:08one of the greatest films that were paid, and he actually was like, whoa.
- 7:13And he said, well, you know what? I wish they would do a special edition of that.
- 7:18Yeah, yeah, yeah. The film itself was a box office flop.
- 7:21Right. I said, well, you know, I would do everything in my power to try and do that.
- 7:27And then also, well, another person you do recently was also,
- 7:31again, we had a bit of a conversation with Mike Flanagan, where,
- 7:34you know, at his house for a couple of days, he's got a theatreette,
- 7:37so we recorded commentaries there and also did interviews with him, and he was the same.
- 7:42Mike Flanagan's just a big fan, like he takes me and goes, here's my special
- 7:45edition Stephen King books, you know, and then he's got a typewriter for Misery.
- 7:50Oh, sweet ass, really?
- 7:53And he's just like a fan, you know, so... He's good, I'm very hopeful that he's
- 7:59got his hands on the The Dark Tower.
- 8:01Yes, yeah, because he'd be the right person. I mean, because that other film
- 8:06they made of the gunslinger was just atrocious.
- 8:09What an atrocious. Terrible, terrible. Oh, my goodness.
- 8:12He's the right kind of, you know, it's the kind of person who should be,
- 8:15the person who loves the books and understands the books, I think that is a good thing.
- 8:20I don't really believe in this idea, oh, let's have someone who's got some objectivity.
- 8:24The thing is you don't want someone who doesn't have any understanding of why
- 8:29the books work and that world, I think it is important to have someone who is
- 8:33in that world and someone like Flanagan,
- 8:36he's smart enough that he's just not making it as a fan film.
- 8:40He's making it as something that, because actually I really liked his version
- 8:44of The Sample to The Shining, his Doctor The Sleep version. Yes.
- 8:48And I told him so too, you know.
- 8:50Do you like the longer version or do you like his theatrical?
- 8:53At all actually i actually i i guess i like the,
- 8:59Have I even watched the longer version? You know what? I don't think I've even
- 9:01watched the longer version, actually.
- 9:04I personally like the longer version. Oh, okay. Yeah, well, I should look at
- 9:08it because I've got the 4K, so the thing is I should look at it.
- 9:11But, yeah, like, I really like what he did.
- 9:15I mean, I think he's a very good filmmaker. I mean, I imagine he's going way
- 9:20back to Absentia, you know, his first one.
- 9:23And then we did a special edition recently about his film Hush,
- 9:28you know which is really you know
- 9:30very interesting film conceptually so yeah no it is
- 9:33very interesting meeting people who i who i
- 9:36really admire myself and also it's
- 9:38interesting even like some of the older even even like meeting people even like
- 9:43meeting people in my life like you know i worked for david lynch for a while
- 9:46too for his company distributing inland empire and you know and so directly
- 9:51with him and same with herzog i worked what's he like what's he like in real world Yeah, actually.
- 9:58Is he like he is? Is he comes across in the clips or is he? Yeah,
- 10:03he's pretty much, I mean, probably, you know, I mean, he's the main thing with
- 10:07Lynch is that I think that, you know, there's always a sense that,
- 10:10which you probably don't see in the clips.
- 10:11I mean, I think he's got a lot going on in his life. So the thing is,
- 10:15you know, he's not always an easy person to sit down for a long time, you know what I mean?
- 10:18Because he's got stuff going on.
- 10:22But at the same time, you know, it was interesting because it was more like
- 10:26my involvement was actually doing a theatrical relief with a friend of mine,
- 10:30Norm Hill, was actually did the theatrical on Inland Empire.
- 10:36And so, you know, did the whole thing of blowing it up because,
- 10:40of course, that was shot on like just basically quite low res, didn't you, Cameron?
- 10:45So, of course, when you blow it up the 35, it sort of takes on a textural,
- 10:49there's an interesting textural change.
- 10:51And then you tell a cine the 35 so you
- 10:55get another video release out of it so it had an interesting effect and
- 10:58that then led to the release also then us doing the theatricals
- 11:01on uh herzog's why blue yonder as well you know what i mean so just so it was
- 11:07kind of like what's what's what's verna like in real life yeah i can't say i
- 11:13couldn't say like i ever completely connected with him i mean i don't think
- 11:16i could ever say any of these people i became like i would good friends.
- 11:21I interviewed you keys burn before he died. And he said, Oh yeah.
- 11:25He said of Werner Herzog. Cause he did wear the green ant stream.
- 11:29He said, he's the most serious man I've ever met. And his brother,
- 11:34his brother, who was the producer is, is.
- 11:37Even more serious if that's possible. Yeah, I would say that's accurate.
- 11:42I mean, at one point we were screening Why Blue Yonder in at the Castro in San
- 11:48Francisco and he and myself and Norm Hill were in a car driving around looking
- 11:53for parking, you know, to go to the screening.
- 11:55And it was kind of funny that he cracked a few jokes and every now and then,
- 12:00you know, I would, I mean, of course, cracks a few jokes in his dry way.
- 12:04You know, he's got a very dry, if he's going to tell a joke,
- 12:07He's never going to give you a wink.
- 12:10He's always going to be someone who is very serious, but at the same time,
- 12:17he's got a really fascinating intelligence.
- 12:21I love all of his films. One of my favourite films is one that's not often talked
- 12:27about. It's one of the documentaries.
- 12:28And it's, I'm not sure, I can't remember exactly if it's 1976.
- 12:33I want to say 1976. I might be wrong. But it's the 1976 auctioneering auctioneering,
- 12:39championships and it's it's in.
- 12:42Amish country and it's those dudes that sell cows
- 12:45you know one body you know and
- 12:49it's the championships of that and it's fascinating
- 12:53you know yeah I I can't think
- 12:56of the name of it but I really like that too I think that's
- 12:58amazing he's I like it's called it's called how much
- 13:01wood can a wood chuck chuck that's that oh that's right he's very
- 13:04good at picking yeah he's very good at picking fascinating subjects
- 13:07you know well also he's bringing is well he's
- 13:10always in he's always injecting himself into that and
- 13:13that's part of the charm of his documentaries because you know
- 13:16sometimes there's a there's a guy over here uh he
- 13:19died several years ago who made like um kind of california-based documentaries
- 13:22called hulhauser very interesting guy he's almost
- 13:25kind of like it's interesting watching hulhauser's little almost
- 13:29little i would call them little visual poems on
- 13:32california and then the way he brings his personality
- 13:35to it is in a way very similar even though Herzog's perspective
- 13:39is quite different but it's that same thing
- 13:42of injecting yourself into the documentary so you become part of
- 13:45it as well but also because you become part of it you can
- 13:48extract such interesting aspects of other
- 13:51people from it because you're also exposing.
- 13:54Yourself I think that's interesting it's almost like
- 13:57sharing a secret with someone then they're not likely to
- 14:00share a secret with you so I like yeah no
- 14:03wonderful wonderful stuff anyway we better
- 14:06talk about the the movie in question 12 to midnight which
- 14:09i absolutely love bronze exploitation more power to
- 14:12it it's it's just absolutely and as i was saying to jeff literally a few days
- 14:18ago it's it's just uncanny and and because he asked me how i came to know all
- 14:24this and whatever else and i said i simply read one article that said that there
- 14:29was this double ganger for Charles Bronson.
- 14:31And they put a picture side by side and it was just uncanny.
- 14:35And then, of course, I wrote some scripts with Rene Perez, who made some films with...
- 14:41With Bronson as well. I know of René. I've never met him. I know of him through Jeff.
- 14:47Yeah. But it's uncanny, and he just fits his gestures, his mannerisms.
- 14:56Kudos to yourself and Joe Ketter for the screen.
- 15:02But just getting that right because Bronson, like Bronze, he's at his best when he doesn't say much.
- 15:10But when he does speak it's interesting yeah i mean that was the interesting
- 15:14challenge because you know english is his like i think it's like his third language
- 15:18or something like that so.
- 15:20One thing that because basically joe and jeff
- 15:24wrote the screenplay first and then myself and
- 15:27tom parnell came in and then did like a rewrite on that
- 15:30and one thing that i was kind of
- 15:32thought would be interesting to put in there was something
- 15:36that in a way is kind of like a little bit of a laugh at himself where he says
- 15:40I get that a lot you know when talking about his appearance yes that was to
- 15:44me to have that line in there because um I said to Tom while we're writing it
- 15:48I said I think he should say the guy should say you know you look familiar because
- 15:52otherwise because you know why.
- 15:53He's kind of because otherwise I sort of like the idea that
- 15:56he says I get a little lot so it's a little wink at the audience too
- 16:00seriously and definitely he would
- 16:02get a lot because the funny him was when i first
- 16:05met him i thought that you know sometimes you
- 16:08think that someone when you're close to him i got to look quite different when
- 16:11you're really close right so i was thinking i wonder what
- 16:14he's going to be when i'm right up next to him right it was
- 16:17that when i was right up next to him he just looked more than ever like bronson
- 16:21right yeah and i mean i'm this far away from him and there was people who were
- 16:26saying when we're on the location they were saying hello to him and I really
- 16:31love your movies and he'll just play along and go, thank you, thank you.
- 16:35And so they're actually saying to him, I love your Charles Bronson movies and
- 16:40it's just hilarious when Robert would just actually just play.
- 16:45He goes, thank you, thank you.
- 16:46And because he is so, so similar that it's quite uncanny.
- 16:54But as you said, it still was better though because Inglis is his third
- 16:59language so the thing is which is incredibly impressive you know so ice that's
- 17:05why we kind of thought he's a very very good like gronson in the same way incredibly
- 17:10good physical actor and he's very good what i would just say this is the this
- 17:14is the main point in this scene,
- 17:16you know he's very good at giving that look he's very good
- 17:19at also he he's got an awareness of course self-awareness of course that he
- 17:24looks like bronzy gronson right yeah yeah um but at the same time he he takes
- 17:31sort of like a pride in himself in his own in in his own persona so that,
- 17:37it's it's it's got an interesting kind of double life to
- 17:41him and that at one point he's doing a version
- 17:44of bronson but at the same time he's also doing a hungarian
- 17:47version of of robert of robert bronzy you know so there's an interesting dynamic
- 17:53there and he it was very good i really liked him like he was very very good
- 17:58to work with friendly guy he also works out all the time too so wow yeah He
- 18:03looks it. He looks it. We're the whole same.
- 18:05Yeah, we stayed in a little house in the countryside together.
- 18:08It was like I was on the top floor and then Jeff was the next floor and Bronzy
- 18:13was in the floor in the one next to the kitchen.
- 18:16Right. And he was always in there doing his elastics.
- 18:19He uses his stuff. I mean, I work out.
- 18:22He works out like all the time. You know, he's basically working out and also
- 18:28a very serious guy And also it was really good because I'd give him,
- 18:32he'd ask me for, is that right?
- 18:34You know, is that the way to say that? Yeah, he was always interested to learn,
- 18:39very humble, in the same way that Tito Ortiz, who's on the movie as well,
- 18:43he was, who's a well-known, very well-known, you know, mixed martial artist. Yes.
- 18:48And he's a badass martial artist and he's got this reputation as being like
- 18:52an absolute, like a monster, you know what I mean?
- 18:54Like, you know, as a wrestler, as a wrestler and martial artist.
- 18:57But on the movie just like Grunty both guys were kind of like,
- 19:01Let us know, you know, all of them were very open to being directed and let
- 19:06me know if you need me to do this.
- 19:08None of them had the attitude of, well, you know, you know who I am and I'll do, you know.
- 19:14It's just they were humble and very, very collaborative and that's one of the
- 19:18best things when you're directing, you know.
- 19:20All you've got to do is give them a little bit of direction and just be,
- 19:23then all you're really doing to me as a director with people like that is you're
- 19:27just kind of keeping them tonally in the same spot so that the film has a consistency.
- 19:33You know, that's, to me, really the main thing with casting.
- 19:36And, of course, with this, it's casting sort of backwards because,
- 19:39of course, this is a bronzy movie.
- 19:40So at the same time, you want to make sure that the role's appropriate for him
- 19:44because that's the whole point.
- 19:46If you do a bronzy movie, you've got to do something that's subject-wise along
- 19:50the lines of why people like Bronson don't really want to put him in a romantic
- 19:55comedy because the audience,
- 19:58because people are not just going to watch, oh, he looks like Bronson and he's in a romantic comedy.
- 20:03People don't want that. You've got to understand that his market is action and
- 20:08it's fine if you've got to get worse.
- 20:1012th Minute is like horror-action hybrid or crime-action hybrid,
- 20:15which is fine because that's going more to the supernatural aspect of being werewolves.
- 20:20But at the same time, it's still in the belfry. it's
- 20:23still in the same category of movies like
- 20:2710 to midnight it opens like a death wish because
- 20:30that's why i really wanted to have that opening in the um because
- 20:33that was originally not in the opening in the original script
- 20:36the scene in the 7-11 was not at the
- 20:38beginning but i thought no gotta have that at
- 20:41the beginning because i want to establish that he's like a he's like a almost
- 20:45like a vigilante death wish kind of brunson i think that was important you know
- 20:51to have that action scene at the beginning and then from that you've established
- 20:54him so you've got your audience and then to me you can build up the supernatural
- 20:58but i think i didn't want to build the supernatural.
- 21:01Up to action i wanted to start with action and
- 21:05then we then we start threading in the supernatural as if once you've once you've
- 21:10re-established as he's more like that the 10 to midnight death wish broadson
- 21:15yeah no no it is it is very important very very similar to along the lines of
- 21:20what Tarantino did from Dusk Till Dawn.
- 21:23Like start off as a crime film and then it leads into the film.
- 21:29Yeah. And this one works well in a similar fashion because the werewolf story
- 21:35bleeds in and it's because if you, you know,
- 21:38if you had a lead, I think, with werewolves or some type of werewolfian or like
- 21:43a suggestion at the start and they go, okay, what is it, a werewolf movie or a crime movie?
- 21:49But because you start in a simple price, well this is the kind of film it's
- 21:53a bronzy film, a Bronson film and the.
- 21:57You know just because i would well you
- 22:00know because i was saying about it myself because i mean i'm a
- 22:03fan of those movies so the thing is i at
- 22:05least want to make sure that it would be something that if
- 22:08i was watching it i'm i i would be satisfied you
- 22:11know i'd be satisfied with it so i know that i would
- 22:14be going where's the you know where's the kind of
- 22:17action bronzy because the action bronson because
- 22:20in a way bronson's most known for those films you
- 22:23know even though i mean and i mean actually even though like calling my
- 22:26favorite bronson film of all time is actually hard times
- 22:30the walter hill movie yes i mean that's
- 22:32my actual favorite bronson film but my absolute most.
- 22:36Fun bronson films for me is like death wish three yes
- 22:39and and then and
- 22:42then 10 to midnight and you know like those are
- 22:45my i think the most fun ones i mean definitely three is so
- 22:48ridiculous but it's the most fun movie because he's
- 22:51like literally like almost killing just almost a
- 22:54hundred people in that movie it's it's it's just ludicrous but
- 22:57michael winner michael winner really had an ability to discount
- 23:01like to throw all the throw the whole kitchen sink into
- 23:03the movie and so i kind of like that really
- 23:06sort of over the top michael winner stuff when when winner
- 23:10when winner is and that was a hilarious thing about michael winner
- 23:13he sort of got this kind of toffee english gentleman persona but he's making
- 23:17pure exploitation movies at the same time whereas also having this kind of like
- 23:22slightly kind of like upper crust kind of like way of speaking and and and sort
- 23:26of like persona yeah most of the films that he did are very very.
- 23:32Exploitive and you know in the best way kind
- 23:34of movies and then he's got a few oddball films too also like um you know one
- 23:38time time and then um and nightcomers you know films like that but at the same
- 23:44time it's like you know the mechanic you know he's like you know the mechanic
- 23:48and like and crazy films like you know the screen for help,
- 23:53You know, from Palace Explosive video releases in Australia.
- 24:01So that's an interesting thing of it, doing anything with Bronson or Bronzy.
- 24:06Everyone who's there is familiar with the Canon Bronzy films,
- 24:11all the Bronzy films that Canon released.
- 24:14And so that's kind of films in a way that I think if Canon, it would be an ideal
- 24:18Canon release. I think Canon would still have released something like 12 to
- 24:22Midnight because they would have went, oh, okay, yeah, we've still got the Bronson
- 24:26with his big gun and all that kind of business.
- 24:30I love how you put the gun in it to really put the excellent mission point on
- 24:35the cherry on the sun, which was great, because where would Bronson be without his big gun?
- 24:42And also, you know, there's a connection too in the fact that this is a werewolf
- 24:47movie and you're a mild man of Australian-speaking director,
- 24:51but making exploitation,
- 24:54exploitation movies, you sort of joined the ranks with Philip Mora with his howling.
- 24:59Oh, yeah, I didn't think of that. Yeah, you're right, because it's the first,
- 25:02yeah, it's definitely the first werewolf film I made. I mean,
- 25:05I made a horror film called Purgatory Road, which is like one of my favourite
- 25:09films I've made. But, yeah, you're right.
- 25:12I'm in good company with Philip Mora with his howling singles.
- 25:16Yeah, he's a lovely film.
- 25:18Yeah. Howling 3. It's crazy. Yeah, like, yeah.
- 25:21Yeah, you talk to Philippe and he's the most un-Howling 3 guy. He's really quiet.
- 25:27Like, he has a bit of a snigger here and there, but he's not overt.
- 25:31You know, he's not an over-the-top guy. But Howling 3 is the most,
- 25:35like, over-the-top fantastic guy.
- 25:38Werewolf insanity movie i mean it's still
- 25:41got one of the great lines my stepfather tried to rape
- 25:44me and he's a good um well
- 25:48it's funny because step werewolves raping is
- 25:51also like a um something that also is in
- 25:54the books of one of my favorite writers who i'd love to make some of his
- 25:57werewolf books into movies which is guyan smith yeah and
- 26:01who's you know who did the crabs books in the uk and
- 26:03also werewolf by moonlight which is his favorite book
- 26:06but his book son of the werewolf is also about a woman gets raped
- 26:09by a werewolf and it has a son who later becomes who
- 26:13later has inherited the werewolf gene yeah i
- 26:16like it oddly enough i wrote a script i wrote a spec that's similar to that
- 26:21all right interesting if you're ever interested to have a look i mean it was
- 26:25it was just it was just to write it just to write it you know you know it wasn't
- 26:30for anybody but i always wanted What a kind of werewolf movie,
- 26:35and that was my – yeah, oddly enough.
- 26:38I mean, not exactly the same as that, but there was – yeah, there's shades of it in there.
- 26:43But, yeah, but look, it's a fantastic – it's a fantastic movie.
- 26:47I'm going to put the links in the description this month when we're doing the
- 26:5012 to midnight tapes. We've talked with Jeff Miller.
- 26:54We've had the marvellous Mark Savage, and we're hoping, Mark,
- 26:58with fingers crossed, that before the month is done, we're going to have the man himself.
- 27:02We're going to have Robert Bronzy. Oh, that would be fantastic.
- 27:05I have actually interviewed – technically, I've actually interviewed Robert
- 27:08before for another podcast, but he wasn't confident enough to do an audio,
- 27:12so we sent him questions and he typed the answers.
- 27:16But fingers crossed we're going to have the man himself alive and uncut.
- 27:22On the show, to cap it all off, as I said to Jeff, we've had previously on the
- 27:27show, but for another film, we've had the marvellous Sadie Katz.
- 27:32Sadie's fantastic. Yeah, yeah, I love work. And she's in, as I said to Jeff,
- 27:36my favourite scene in the movie, because I'm a writer, I like drama scenes or
- 27:40dialogue scenes, so I love the scene that begins with her coming to the motel,
- 27:45with that great line, don't worry, I haven't come here.
- 27:48Yeah. and it's just a really great scene and yeah, you can see that Robert works
- 27:56out when he's sitting there with his vest on you look at the dude's shoulders
- 27:59and you go how old is this guy?
- 28:02Look at him he's insane or as the kids say today, he's a unit a unit.
- 28:11I haven't heard of that expression, sorry, a unit means that you're actually
- 28:15like a ripped, you know, you built Like you're ripped, right. Interesting.
- 28:20That's what I hear the young fellas saying out. So they go, you're a unit,
- 28:23mate. You're ripped. Oh, I like that. He's a unit.
- 28:26I can only hope myself to be a unit at some point. Yeah. Yeah.
- 28:31I'll have to get out of the dumbbells.
- 28:35Listen, Mark, it's been fantastic talking to you, mate.
- 28:38We're going to put the links in the description to check out 12 to Midnight,
- 28:42the latest in the broadsploitation. and as Mark, as you've heard Mark say,
- 28:47more, hopefully more bronze exploitation on the way, more power to him.
- 28:52Look, while he can and while there's all sorts of great,
- 28:58stories that if Charles Bronson had lived, you know, he may well have ended
- 29:05up doing vampire movies and werewolf movies and good as a knows what else,
- 29:10take on the devil, you know.
- 29:12I mean, I think, well, in a way when you're thinking about some of these movies,
- 29:15they're almost veering towards something more supernatural like People Let Men
- 29:18Do and even film like, even Ten to Midnight,
- 29:22it's almost, well, Ten to Midnight is almost like a slasher and a crime movie,
- 29:28so he's kind of like definitely moving in that sort of like definitely moving
- 29:31in that direction. So, yeah, I agree with you.
- 29:33I don't think he would have been against doing something that had a more of
- 29:36a supernatural. Well, actually, Kinchitay.
- 29:38Kinchitay. Yes, the beaten subjects.
- 29:41Kinchitay is definitely a film that actually has like a much kind of like darker
- 29:44sort of like edge to it. Yeah.
- 29:47I really thank you, Kent, for your interest in 12 to Midnight.
- 29:50Yeah. I really hope that you wanted to discuss it with me and great that you
- 29:55talked to Jeff and I really hope you're able to talk too.
- 29:58Yeah, well, we've got it on the schedule, you know, because he has a day off
- 30:03and I don't want to take too much of the fella's day off.
- 30:06So, you know, if he can spare us a little bit of time, that'll be fantastic
- 30:10to talk about a wonderful film directed by the wonderful Mark Savage.
- 30:14Mark, I love your work. It's been lovely to take you, mate, and I look forward
- 30:19to everything you've got coming up.
- 30:22Thank you, Ken, and I wish you luck. with your own we
- 30:25should like with your own films too i'm gonna start getting stuck into watching those
- 30:28as well too yeah thanks bud good on you okay yes
- 30:32the mighty mark savage the uh man behind 12 to midnight by looking through the
- 30:39lens at 12 to midnight is uh the latest and greatest sprong exploitation bitch
- 30:44follow the links in the description and throw mark's information in there.
- 30:50Check him out. Mark has a lot of cool things coming.
- 30:53Mighty Mark Savage 12 to Midnight Bronzeploitation.
- 30:58We'll be looking forward to hopefully getting the Mighty Robert Bronzey on the show next year.
- 31:04But until then, follow the links in the description to enjoy your Bronzeploitation.
- 31:10And as always, my little Eugenites, thank you for listening to us on Spotify
- 31:16or wherever you choose to listen to your favorite podcast I'm Ken Hill,
- 31:20and until next time, you've been listening to Cinema Yoga.
- 31:28Music.