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E115: Butker, Pope Francis, Living Postpartum · The Lila Rose Show

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For the ladies present today, congratulations on an amazing
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accomplishment. You should be proud of all that
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you have achieved to this point in your young lives.
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I want to speak directly to you briefly.
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Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world,
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but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are
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most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring
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into this world. I think many women they want to
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be wife and mothers more than their career.
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The reality is women alone get pregnant, women alone gestate,
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women alone can nurse that child and very young children need
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their mothers in a special way more than anyone else.
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Being a homemaker is not a dirty word of first of all, and that
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women do play different roles in society.
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Hello, hello, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast.
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It's so great to be back on YouTube live.
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I'm going to be keeping an eye on the chat here for questions,
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but welcome back. I'm so glad to see you guys
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here. I'm so glad to be here.
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I miss doing lives over the last several weeks, but I've been
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doing something even more important, which is getting to
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snuggle with my with our new baby.
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We just gave birth to our third and we have one in heaven, so we
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have 4 kids total, but this is our third earth side and it's
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just been such a joy to spend time with her and have that
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time. But I'm really glad to be back
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because there's so much stuff to cover.
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And today we're going to get into some very controversial
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stuff. We're going to be talking about
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the new TikTok comments out from Dylan Mulvaney, who was invited
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on the Miss Rachel show. I didn't even put this in the
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caption for this episode, but it's actually a very important
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story because it shows where our culture is going with kids
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content and entertainment. We're going to cover, yes,
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Harrison Butker, the NFL superstar who was very much in
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hot water recently for his comments and daring to talk
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about the role of women. So we're going to get into that.
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And we're going to get into some of the controversial comments
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from the Holy Father recently and the Christian view on gender
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roles. This is so controversial in
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today's society. I think some of that controversy
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is good. We should be wrestling to know
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how do we best live out our femininity and our masculinity
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today. But there's a lot of extremes on
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both sides. And so I'm going to be unpacking
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what is really the Christian position on these things.
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So lots to cover. We're going to go fast.
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But again, so excited to be here.
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If you've got questions, put it in the chat because that is
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where I will be paying attention.
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And we will be getting to questions and do Q&A at the end
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of the episode. Also, if you are not already on
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our Locals page, we're over 1000 strong over in Locals.
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There will be a link in the bio for that.
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And actually at the end of this episode, we're going to go over
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to do a Locals exclusive segment for today.
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So go check it out. Don't miss that.
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All right, so today is May 30th. Today is the feast day actually
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of Saint Joan of Arc. For those who might know of
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Saint Joan of Arc, the little girl from France who ended up
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leading the army to liberate France.
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She's also my confirmation St. someone that I really value.
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I'm going to bring her up because it's her feast day, but
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also because it has a lot to do with my new daughter.
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So a lot of people have been asking me, how has postpartum
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been? How have you been doing over the
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last few weeks? Thankfully, thanks be to God,
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it's been actually pretty easy. We've had a really smooth go of
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it #3 they say the births get easier.
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My first labor was 24 hours with my first son.
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My second labor with my second was 12 hours.
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This one was only six hours. So we're cutting them in half.
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And I will share. We we're not showing it's a lot
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on social media, but we did name our daughter Genevieve.
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And it's very special for today because it's the feast day of
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Saint Joan of Arc. And Saint Genevieve was the is
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the patron of Paris, France, who through her prayer for the city
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protected it. This is back in the, I think the
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4th or the 5th century protected it from the Barbarians who are
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rushing through Europe and taking over and, and pillaging
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and taking over cities. So Paris was actually protected
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from the Barbarians from invading and pillaging the city
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because of the prayers of this young woman named Saint
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Genevieve who would later, hundreds of years later, inspire
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Saint Joan of Arc. So anyways, naming my daughter
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Genevieve when I love Saint Joan of Arc was very special.
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And it's very cool to look at these women.
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We're talking about women and, and gender roles today.
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These women who took on these leadership positions
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historically, not in any way to put down men or to compete with
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men, but to ultimately just stand up for what is right and
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good and true. And Saint Genevieve did that by
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getting the whole city of Paris to pray and fast to protect
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itself from the roaming Barbarians from pillaging the
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city. So it's very, very cool to see,
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even in the history of Christianity, the role of women
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and men. We're already getting into this.
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Who stood up to follow God's leading in the Spirit.
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Holy Spirit's prompting to ultimately serve other people.
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And that's not something that just men do or just women do.
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And you don't just do it as a mother or as a father, but you
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do it in a spiritual way, beyond biological mothering or
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fathering. You do it in a spiritual way to
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protect and care for your community.
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So that's what Saint Genevieve did, which I love.
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But yeah, advice for people were asking me what?
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What's your advice for postpartum?
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We actually did some content on this, some episodes.
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I did a conversation with Emily Wilson on this recently, who's a
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great friend of mine on YouTube, where we talked to Allie Beth
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Stuckey about her postpartum. Check out those episodes.
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We get into a lot of stuff there.
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But I think the foundational thing about postpartum that I
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can say, and this is for both men and women who either know
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people who have babies or having babies, they're together having
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babies in their family. It takes a community, it really
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does. So if you know somebody who is
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preparing to give birth, if you are somebody who's preparing to
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give birth, community is so key. And some people, some of us are
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blessed to have family close by. But I think making and finding
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friends that you can pour into so that they can be there for
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you and you can be there for them in the beautiful project of
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raising kids. I've been so blessed by people
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coming over to my home. I people brought us meals, My
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mother coming in, my sister's going to be coming to visit my
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husband. Obviously, being so engaged and
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so involved in our home and with our kids, I could not be a
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mother alone. We're not meant to do this
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alone. So I think the lesson of
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postpartum is we're not meant to do it alone.
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And I think so many people are alienated with having kids and
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they're feeling so alienated. Unfortunately, a lot of broken
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families, broken communities, and I think it's so key that
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each of us are part of the solution by going out of our way
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to be there for our friends and make new friends in our
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community. Not just like an online
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community, right? Online communities are great,
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but being there in community physically where we live.
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So if you're in an apartment building and, you know, the
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family down the hall has kids or there's a pregnancy, say, hey,
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can I bring you a meal? Right.
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Hey, how can I help you make it very practical?
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If there's someone in your church that's getting ready to
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deliver, you know, hey, can I, you know, bring over a meal?
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Can I come and clean your kitchen one afternoon?
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Like be there for your community.
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And if you are in the position of, you know, preparing to give
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birth or in that family that is preparing to give birth, accept
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the help if it's offered. I think part of the active
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community is not just giving, but also being willing to
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receive. And I know for me, sometimes it
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can be hard to receive. We feel bad about it.
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But embrace receiving as much as you embrace giving and do both
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generously. So those are some thoughts.
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And postpartum, but I'm really excited to get into the
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controversies of gender roles in the church.
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Use the code Lila. OK, Dylan Mulvaney, this came
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up. I just found out about this this
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morning. So I felt like I had to talk
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about it with you guys. So I'm just going to check the
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chat really quick to say hello to everybody.
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Oh, someone's from Spain. Hey, Bossia from Spain.
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Hey, Journey. Hey, Marcus.
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Hi, Lynn. Thanks for tuning in everybody.
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Lynn is from Massachusetts. Let me know where you guys are
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all from tuning in here. Hi, John Henry, thank you.
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Genevieve is a beautiful name for your daughter.
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Thank you, John Henry. Appreciate that.
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OK, so I don't know if anyone saw the Dylan Mulvaney TikTok
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news. I want to flag this for you
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guys. This is the lesson I'm going to
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share here is that is the is a crucial importance of monitoring
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the media that our kids consume. That's my point of bringing this
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up today because I do want to get to the gender role stuff,
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but this is really important. Miss Rachel is really a popular
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phenomenon right now. She has this kids show.
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She teaches kids how to interact and, and and speak for the time.
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A lot of parents park their children in front of Miss Rachel
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YouTube videos. She's very talented.
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OK, so she has a gift for communicating with children.
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That's clear. Unfortunately, from the
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beginning of learning about Miss Rachel, I did some research and
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unfortunately, I found out that she promotes gender ideology.
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Even on her website, she has, you know, he, him, she, her as
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if you can change your pronouns, change your gender.
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So she's already bought into that.
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And in addition to that, she has, I think, some gender non
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conforming people involved in her cast of characters.
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But she's never been really pro in the in your face about it.
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It's been a little bit more subtle.
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It's on the website. You don't necessarily pick it up
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in her content, right? Unfortunately, that looks like
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that's about to change, and there's a whole generation of
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kids now, and many of them parents who realize that gender
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ideology is very dangerous. You should not confuse young
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children and tell them that they can be a boy when they're a
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girl, or they can be a girl when they're a boy, or that gender is
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fluid. Like, no, that is lying to
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children and harmful to children and can lead them to serious
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issues down the line if we affirm gender confusion.
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Instead, we should be encouraging kids to embrace
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their gender and not overemphasize, oh, if you're a
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boy you have to play with trucks and if you're a girl you have to
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play with dolls. No, let the child explore and
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play. Just because they like more
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maybe feminine things or masculine things doesn't mean
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they're a boy when they're really a girl or a girl when
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they're really a boy. OK, Unfortunately, our country
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is crazy right now. The culture has gone so crazy in
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the direction of gender ideology.
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There's a lot of confusion and it's led to young people even
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thinking that they can change their sex and parents going
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along with it to the degree where they're doing puberty
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blockers for young kids and even genital, the malformation for
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young kids cutting off breasts. Like Chloe Cole, we had her in
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the podcast double mastectomy at age 15.
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Horrific stuff. Right now, she regrets it.
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Chloe's campaigning against this.
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So back to Miss Rachel. She has millions of viewers.
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They're like 2 year olds. So it's all these very young,
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extremely impressionable children that are just learning
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about how to see the world, how to see themselves, how to talk
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for the first time. And I'm going to pull up this
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comment here. But Dylan Mulvaney is a very now
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infamous or famous, depending on the quarters you talk about him
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in. He is a effectively a singer and
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actor who is thinking that he's a woman.
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And so he presents, tries to present as a woman.
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And he did the whole days of girlhood where he filmed himself
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talking about transitioning, he says, from the man to a woman.
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Well, here is Miss Rachel commenting on a TikTok video
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from Dylan Mulvaney and Miss Rachel, who is the guru of
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little kids today. I mean, she literally is like
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the Pied Piper. She is the, you know, child
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whisperer that all these kids love Miss Rachel because she
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pays attention to them through a street screen.
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Kids need attention from adults. They desperately need it.
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And some parents, whether you know, by fault of their own or
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other issues, they park their kids in front of Miss Rachel,
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right? I'm not saying, by the way, any
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TV is bad for kids. But Miss Rachel, this is her.
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These are her politics. This is her worldview.
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She says on this video of Dylan Mulvaney, Hey, sometime when
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you're in NYC, you should be on our show Songs for Littles.
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We love you and you're singing. So Miss Rachel is publicly here
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inviting transgender icon as they call him or they say it's a
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her. But Dylan to be on her show for
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the littlest of the children, the millions of children that
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she reaches out to. Now, I have to remind you what
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Dylan Mulvaney's content looks like.
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We're going to pull up a clip here if you don't already know,
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if you haven't already heard of Dylan Mulvaney and and let's
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pray for Dylan's conversion and for his healing.
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But here's an example of Dylan Mulvaney content.
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Just so you guys know who Miss Rachel is intending to put in
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front of millions of two year olds, we're going to play this
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video here. This is just sampling of the
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Dylan Mulvaney content that he puts up.
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OK, so here's Dylan Mulvaney for those listening on podcast app.
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He's wearing skimpy clothes, dancing around with big tails,
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saying this is the days of girlhood, doing this kind of
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sexy dance. And then later on in the song,
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there's lyrics about how the days of girlhood include hooking
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up, getting drunk and over shopping.
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This is what girlhood is girlhood, not womanhood.
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By the way, Dylan is saying this is what girlhood is.
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To dress in scantily clad clothing, dance provocatively,
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drink too much, kiss your friends and hook up sex and over
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shop. That's the days of girlhood.
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Let's just watch one more clip of Dylan.
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In case you need any more persuading that this is not a
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good influence, here's one other video.
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This is from Dylan's very popular TikTok, and this is an
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example of him basically persuading people that being
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trans, transitioning, taking hormone shots is normal,
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healthy, good, even glamorous. So here he is about to inject
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himself with hormones, and he's showing everyone how it's done.
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I mean, this is exactly the worst thing you could show to an
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impressive, impressionable young child.
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So we can pause here. We could keep watching Dylan
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videos. I'm not going to do that to you
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guys. But the point here is this, if
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you have your kids watching Miss Rachel, unfortunately they
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should not be watching Miss Rachel.
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She is not safe for kids. I hate to say that because she's
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so talented and some of her content is so engaging.
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But again, Miss Rachel is not safe for your kids because maybe
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she hasn't done it yet, but it looks like she's planning to do
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it now. Invite people who are trans
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ideology activist. Truly an activist.
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Dylan Mulvaney is an activist who's promoting not just danger
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gender ideology to kids, but who's bashing girlhood, quite
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frankly, and promoting promiscuity and and and
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addiction as somehow the days of girl had two very young
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children. And that's who Miss Rachel wants
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to put in front of your children.
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So don't let her do it. Don't engage with media that is
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toxic to your kids. I mean, that is the bottom line
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here. All right, let's get to Harrison
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Bucker and to women's roles in society.
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I'm going to check the YouTube chat here.
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Hello, Isaac from South Dakota, thanks for being here.
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We've got someone from France. Hi, Carmen from France, very
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cool to have you here. Thanks for joining.
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We've got a lot of content on the podcast about women,
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femininity, men, masculinity. I think it's so important
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because just like we saw from Dylan Mulvaney as an example,
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people are very confused about what it means to be a man or a
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woman. According to Dylan Mulvaney,
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being a girl means dressing with pigtails can be closed and over
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drinking and over shopping, right?
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And wearing long nails. Like that's femininity.
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And according to some in our culture, masculinity, like the
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extreme Andrew Tate version of it, is this machismo where
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you're non monogamous, you don't settle down, you are a Playboy,
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you just get really rich and powerful, right?
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So there are these extremes. Let's watch the clip of what
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Harrison Bucker, the Kansas City Chiefs star, said to an audience
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of students graduating from Benedictine College.
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So he gave this commencement speech.
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This video of his speech went viral.
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Millions of people have watched it.
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Now, there's ongoing debate and controversy about his comments,
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especially some of his comments about women.
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Now, the context is important. He's speaking to a Catholic
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audience at a very, you could call it conservative Catholic
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college. By the way, I love Benedictine
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College. I love the president, Stephen
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Menace. I think they're an amazing
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school. Some of our folks over at Live
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Action graduated from Benedictine.
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So this is close to home. And let's see what caused all
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the uproar from Harrison Becker. Let's play that clip next.
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And the world is enlightened by your example.
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For the ladies present today, congratulations on an amazing
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accomplishment. You should be proud of all that
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you have achieved to this point in your young lives.
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I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is
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you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to
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you. How many of you are sitting here
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now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the
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promotions and titles you are going to get in your career?
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Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world,
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but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are
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most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring
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into this world. I can tell you that my beautiful
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wife Isabel would be the first to say.
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I think already there was some ire over this comment about
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you're sitting there and not necessarily thinking about your
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careers and your promotions, but about being a wife and a mother,
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about your future family. And I can tell you with with
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confidence that's completely true.
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Yes, the majority of Benedictine young women who are graduating
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and in most Catholic colleges, and in fact many colleges,
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period, Yes, they are thinking about their future family and
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the family that they want more than they're thinking about
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their career. Now, many are thinking about
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their career and that's not a problem.
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I mean, Harrison Butker never says that's a problem.
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Actually in his speech, that's one of the things he doesn't
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say. He never says it's a problem for
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a woman to want or have a career.
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He does not say that. Let's see what he does say next.
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Her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a
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wife and as a mother. I'm on this stage today and able
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to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into her
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location. I'm beyond blessed with the many
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talents God has given me, but it cannot be overstated that all of
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my success is made possible because a girl I met in band
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class back in middle school would converge to the faith,
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become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of
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all, Homemaker All. Right.
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We can pause it here. There's a big uproarious
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applause for Harrison after he says that.
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There was a event last weekend that Harrison spoke at the first
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public event since he gave this commencement speech a couple
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weeks ago, and he doubled down on his statements because he got
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a lot of blowback. He had a lot of folks just
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lambasting him for how dare he demean women, put women down,
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say that women should just be homemakers.
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Even the sisters, I think the Benedictine sisters who are
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associated with Benedictine College, issued a statement
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saying that this is not the case for all women.
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We do not agree with Harrison Bucker's statements.
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Some women are not called to be homemakers or even biological
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mothers, are called to be sisters or religious,
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consecrated celibates. So there's that statement.
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So he was even getting some friendly fire.
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I want to just note something that's so important.
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He did not say, Harrison Bucker did not say in the speech that
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all women believe that their life started when they became a
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wife and a mother or that all women should be wives and
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mothers or that women, no woman, should have a career.
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He never said any of that. What he did say was that for his
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wife Isabel, she felt that her life started when she became a
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life, a wife and a mother, and that he is so eternally grateful
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to her for embracing one of the most important vocations, he
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said, one of which is being a homemaker.
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Now I want to break down a couple things here that I think
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are so important because I think really there was a ton of
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misunderstanding about this. And right now the chats going
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about it and someone, Bobby says people are mad because he said
21:36
90% of of what people are are thinking but are afraid to say
21:40
Bingo. I think many people deep down,
21:42
we know that many women, they want to be wife and mothers more
21:46
than a career. And in addition to that, many
21:50
women, including myself, feel that in many ways, life does
21:54
begin, Life did begin for me in a new way with my vocation of
21:57
being a wife and a mother. And that my vocation that I'm
22:00
living and I'm very privileged to live is more important my
22:04
vocation of being a wife and a mother than even doing this
22:06
awesome podcast I get to do right now.
22:07
It's more important than my work at Live action.
22:09
It's more important than any creative work or missionary work
22:12
I do outside my home. My primary vocation is to be a
22:16
wife and a mother. It is to safeguard and to love
22:20
my husband and my children and to nurture and nourish and be
22:25
there for them. That is my primary vocation.
22:27
That is my primary way I can love God is by loving my family
22:31
now. Harrison Becker did not say that
22:34
if you're a young woman and you're not married yet, you are
22:37
not valuable, you're not important.
22:38
He didn't say your life hasn't begun.
22:40
If you are a young woman who's not married yet, or you're a
22:43
young woman who doesn't even want to get married or may never
22:45
marry, or an older woman who is not married, he didn't say any
22:47
of that. I can understand why people
22:50
listening to that speech might feel offended because they feel
22:52
like they were left out. He didn't address the role of
22:56
consecrated religious. He didn't address the role of
22:59
single women who never marry and the way they can provide and
23:02
support in society. He didn't address the role of
23:05
women who, unlike his wife Isabel, are homemakers and also
23:09
work outside the home. Myself is included in that
23:12
group, by the way. He didn't talk about those
23:14
folks, but did he have to? I understand that people would
23:18
say, well, it was a commencement speech.
23:19
He's kind of sharing these examples like his wife.
23:22
He should know that people would feel left out.
23:24
Maybe. I can kind of see the argument
23:26
that maybe he could have said more about their other roles,
23:29
too. But I think he was trying to
23:31
show appreciation for his wife and for the women who choose
23:37
that path of focusing almost exclusively their attention on
23:41
their home and on their community.
23:43
There's something very beautiful about that and very good.
23:46
I mean, it's something that's good.
23:47
It's not for everyone. Every woman has a different
23:50
call. Every man has a different call
23:52
for how they live out their individual talents and where God
23:55
may be prompting them in their life.
23:57
But I do think our society under values the role of home making
24:03
at large. And I know this from personal
24:05
experience because I went to UCLAI know a lot of I have a lot
24:09
of girlfriends. They went to college, they got
24:10
higher degrees. One of my best friends, she got
24:13
2 masters, APHD. Another friend of mine, another
24:16
friend of mine, a doctor. And society is telling them, go
24:19
girl, you got this. We need more women in STEM.
24:21
We need more women in the boardroom.
24:23
You know, Sheryl Sandberg is writing Lean In and she's saying
24:25
women should be 5050% at minimum on, you know, CEO, at the CEO
24:30
level, at the executive level, at the C-Suite.
24:33
Well, here's the reality. Why?
24:36
Why do we have to be everywhere exactly where men are?
24:40
What if we don't want to be? What if we prefer to choose to
24:44
invest elsewhere? And what if it is actually
24:47
better for many women to choose to embrace their natural role of
24:53
being a mother and for us to acknowledge that being a mother
24:55
is different from being a father.
24:57
And as a young mother, especially young children, you
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can't and you shouldn't be pursuing that, You know, 60 hour
25:03
work week where you're off in a corporate office somewhere in a
25:05
high rise. You should be close to your kids
25:08
caring for your kids. You should be there for your
25:10
kids as best you can. And that's why I love the
25:13
flexibility of a lot of remote work today.
25:15
I mean, I'm blessed to work remotely most of the time.
25:18
The flexibility of of arrangements where work does
25:21
not, you know, the, the, the, the dog, the tail of the dog is
25:24
not being wagged by the work, but that you choose to organize
25:28
the work to ultimately serve the family.
25:30
I think that's the ideal that we can pursue.
25:32
And I think employer should want for their families as well,
25:34
especially women who are working.
25:36
So again, Harrison Bucker did not disparage anyone.
25:40
He merely uplifted his wife and this role that she has, which is
25:44
beautiful. There's no church teaching that
25:46
says women have to have the life Isabelle Bucker has.
25:50
And she has, I'm sure, very beautiful life.
25:51
She's married to a superstar football player.
25:54
You know, she's, she's got tons of resources, I'm sure.
25:57
But no one is saying that you have to do it their way.
26:01
But what Harrison Bucker is saying is this is a beautiful
26:03
way that we have found such beauty and meaning in and that
26:06
society often doesn't embrace or accept.
26:09
A couple more things here that are important to note In the
26:13
Christian teaching on gender roles, it's very clear that
26:17
there is equal dignity of both men and women according to God.
26:21
God created men and women. He created them equal and he
26:24
created them both in his own image.
26:26
So Genesis 127 says, so God created man in his own image, in
26:31
the image of God. He created them, male and
26:35
female. He created them.
26:37
Genesis doesn't say God created man and then and man is in God's
26:41
image and then this woman is not God's image and she's less
26:43
important. She's supposed to be second
26:45
class citizen. No, that's not what the Bible
26:48
says. That's not the Christian
26:49
teaching. Men and women are equal in
26:51
dignity, and men and women are both in the image of God.
26:56
So as Christians, we can know that any conversation about
26:59
gender roles and how you should live out your gender role in a
27:02
society has to come from the foundation of equal and shared
27:07
dignity, both made in the image of God.
27:10
Not just men are made in the image of God.
27:11
Women are equally made in the image of God.
27:14
That's so important for us to acknowledge.
27:18
A second thing that I think it's so important for us to
27:19
acknowledge is that all men and all women, if not called to
27:23
biological fatherhood and motherhood, are called in the
27:28
maturity that they are meant to ultimately live out motherhood
27:33
and fatherhood spiritually. What does that mean?
27:37
Mothers and fathers are able to then give back to the next
27:40
generation, right? That's what they do.
27:41
They mother, they father, they lead, they guide, they nourish,
27:43
they bring life into the world. If you're not doing that as an
27:47
adult, physically, in bringing kids into the world, you're
27:51
married. That's your call, that's your
27:52
blessing. You should, as an adult, I
27:54
believe, be doing that in other ways spiritually.
27:57
That's what priests do, right? They're called fathers.
27:59
They're spiritual fathers, mothers, nuns.
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Like Mother Angelica was a spiritual mother.
28:04
Even if you're not a religious, you're a single, right?
28:07
Or you're a married couple that can't have children naturally,
28:09
right? You can have spiritual and be a
28:11
spiritual mother and father to help other families in the
28:14
community, other children, other people younger or more
28:17
spiritually young than you. By loving, serving, teaching,
28:23
encouraging, doing all the things that a good mother and a
28:26
father do. That's our job.
28:28
Someone nourished us growing up. Someone helped us achieve
28:31
whatever maturity we have today. We should give that back, OK?
28:35
And there's beauty and honor in that.
28:37
So any career you choose, any passion you have to achieve
28:42
something should be ordered towards service of others,
28:45
towards ultimately a mothering and a fathering, a giving back
28:48
to the next generation and to others.
28:50
That's ultimately why we're giving our talents as Christians
28:54
is to build the Kingdom of God and to maximize the gifts that
28:57
we have in and outside the home to serve others, to build the
29:00
Kingdom of God. The last thing I'm going to say
29:03
about this and Harrison Butkers comments is that yes, being a
29:09
homemaker is not a dirty word of first of all, and that women do
29:14
play different roles in society that yes, naturally many women
29:20
are more interested in and that's OK and more capable of
29:24
and that's OK. The work of home making.
29:26
Now this is very controversial because some men are better at a
29:29
lot of home making activities than some women.
29:32
And in some Catholic or Christian marriages, the man may
29:36
be doing more around the home and more with a lot of the
29:39
children, especially if they're older children than the woman
29:41
may be doing. There are some arrangements
29:43
which are still Christian arrangements, where the woman
29:46
maybe is more of the breadwinner and the man is more involved in
29:50
the domestic activity of the home.
29:51
This is not a right or a wrong, but what is right or wrong is
29:56
either spouse rejecting care for the home, care for the children.
30:00
And what is right or wrong is a mother or a father, if they have
30:03
children, rejecting being a mother or father.
30:07
And I would say that it is harmful in a society when we
30:11
pretend that for very young children, mother and father are
30:15
interchangeable, because they're not.
30:17
They're simply not. I shouldn't have to persuade you
30:20
of this because the reality is women alone get pregnant.
30:23
Women alone gestate the child. Women alone can nurse that
30:26
child. And very young children need
30:29
their mothers in a special way more than anyone else.
30:32
They still need their dads. They still need other people
30:34
involved, but they need their mothers more than anyone else.
30:37
I would not survive in big law or, you know, have running a
30:41
doctor's practice or any number of careers.
30:43
As a mother of very young children, I think I would really
30:45
struggle. I'm not saying it's impossible
30:46
for other women, but what I am saying is being able to be there
30:50
for my very young children regularly throughout the day,
30:53
even as I'm involved in other work, has been crucial, I
30:55
believe, for my relationship with them, my bond with them.
30:58
And I want to encourage you listening that it is a good
31:02
thing to spend that extra time to make sacrifices as a mother
31:06
of young children or if you're a father who has a mother of young
31:09
children you're married to, encourage that special time in
31:12
that bond so that mother can be there for her kids.
31:15
The outcomes show, according to the social data, that children
31:18
that have that primary bond with their ideally biological mother,
31:22
it's not always possible, are very much set up for success.
31:25
It's healthy for their brain development.
31:27
It's healthy for them as they grow.
31:29
It helps with their emotional regulation.
31:31
And so providing that for our young children is so key.
31:35
And that is one of the reasons why we have the gender role of
31:38
the father is providing, right? There's the provider role and
31:43
the mother is nurturing, and that's not a bad thing.
31:46
Again, it's going to look different for certain families
31:49
for extreme circumstances. Sometimes there's challenges
31:52
outside of our control. I could do all these caveats,
31:55
but we should not run away from the word homemaker as a society
31:58
and we should not think that it's a dirty word and we should
32:01
celebrate that. Within the home.
32:03
There are natural roles that have evolved that take place
32:07
that have to do with a mother mothering and a father fathering
32:09
and how they help each other do that incredibly important work.
32:14
All right, So Harrison Butker, Congrats on all of your great
32:18
wins. I mean, I'm not a huge football
32:21
fan. I will admit that.
32:22
I'm not going to pretend I am, but I know you're, you know, I
32:24
know you won the Super Bowl, so I know that much.
32:27
And Congrats on your beautiful family, most importantly, and
32:30
thank you for being an example, a beautiful example of family
32:33
life. I'd love to hear your thoughts
32:35
on all this guys. Some of you guys have been
32:36
writing me. I've been saying a little bit
32:38
about this on social media. So keep the comments coming.
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I love hearing from you guys. OK, let's go to the Holy Father
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Francis say? He's always in hot water,
34:14
according to someone. I was always upset at the Pope.
34:16
Right now, it's either the right or the left.
34:18
They take turns getting upset at the Pope.
34:21
Listen, if you get upset at the Pope, I would recommend they
34:25
take a deep breath, say a prayer for him and move on.
34:29
Because the first thing I'm going to say is this.
34:31
The Catholic Church is not going to change their teaching on
34:33
faith and morals. Nope, it's not going to happen.
34:36
2000 years stayed true. There have been no changes.
34:40
If you're far left and you want them to make women be priests,
34:43
not going to happen. If you're, you know, I'm, I'm, I
34:48
don't like the term far wet right necessarily.
34:50
But if you're kind of in an extremely other direction and
34:53
you think that the Pope should say and the church should say
34:55
women should never work and that should be the teaching of the
34:58
Catholic Church, that's not going to happen.
35:00
Of course, women work. We've always worked and men
35:02
always work and we should work together.
35:04
Pope Francis sometimes in interviews or in private
35:08
audiences will talk kind of off the cuff.
35:11
You know, he may say things that sound surprising to people on
35:15
the left or the right, but unless he is talking from the
35:18
seat of Peter ex cathedra in his official capacity as the Pope,
35:23
in the infallible capacity as Pope for the whole of
35:27
Christendom on the matters of faith and morals, then what he
35:30
says to a journalist on an airplane is not church teaching.
35:34
I think it's really important. I know it can be confusing.
35:37
And I'm, I'm not saying it's not a problem that it's confusing,
35:40
but there's a particular way that the Pope delivers
35:44
infallible messages to the church that are the church's
35:47
official teaching, as they have been for 2000 years.
35:50
And that's if he's giving a decree from the seat of Peter.
35:53
There's a formality to it, to all of Chris and dumb.
35:56
And it has to be on the matter of faith or morals.
35:58
So let's just say that first. But what did he say?
36:01
So this was a 60 Minutes interview and he was asked about
36:06
the priesthood and the diaconate for women.
36:10
Can women, can men, can women be priests or deacons?
36:15
Why is it just for men and why has it been that way?
36:19
There is a movement within the church or outside of the church.
36:23
There are some people who say they're Catholics who I think
36:25
are sincerely trying to be Catholics, who really want women
36:28
to be priests. That does exist in the church
36:31
and it certainly exists outside the Church.
36:33
People say, well, why do just men get this?
36:35
It's not fair, etcetera. What did Pope Francis say?
36:38
Let's take a listen. For a little girl growing up
36:43
Catholic today, will she ever have the opportunity to be a
36:48
Deacon and participate as a clergy member in the church?
36:53
No. For a little girl, let's just
36:56
watch it one more time. You just play it one more time.
36:58
Growing up Catholic today, will she ever have the opportunity to
37:03
be a Deacon and participate as a clergy member in the church?
37:08
No, for OK, we can put that on a loop.
37:11
No, that's it. No, I appreciate the candor of
37:16
the Pope here, the Holy Father. No, it doesn't know it's not
37:18
going to happen. They would lengthy explanation
37:20
for why it's just not going to happen.
37:22
People are like, why? Why can't women be priests?
37:25
I'm going to give you the answer and it may be more simple than
37:28
you think. It doesn't have to do with Oh
37:30
well, men are smarter and stronger and better.
37:33
Oh, men are more like God and Jesus than women, Or that, oh,
37:37
men are, you know, more naturally stable than women?
37:43
No, it has nothing to do with that.
37:45
OK, there are some people who will make arguments about men.
37:48
Male nature versus female nature.
37:51
And God chose male nature to be priests because female nature is
37:56
not good enough to be a priest in that way.
37:58
No, none of that is true. That's all inaccurate false
38:02
error. That is not the reason that
38:04
women can't be priests. The reason that women can't be
38:07
priests is because according to Jesus Christ himself divinely
38:12
revealing it to us, his Church, He gave the power to be priests
38:19
only to men. That's it.
38:21
He chose men. He is a man, yes, and he chose
38:24
men for that. And you know, he chose a woman
38:27
to be his mother and he chooses only women to be mothers.
38:30
God's, God's design. God chose Bethlehem to be where
38:33
he was born. Does that mean Bethlehem is the
38:36
only our most special place in the world, that no other city or
38:39
town is important or as valuable?
38:42
No God chooses bread and wine to be his body and blood.
38:46
And that's what he instituted when he instituted both the
38:48
priesthood and the Eucharist he gave him.
38:50
You know, he's sitting down instituting the priesthood,
38:52
telling them about how to do consecration as priests.
38:55
And I'm showing them what it means to be a priest.
38:58
And that whole practice of his discipling his apostles was
39:02
teaching them for the priesthood.
39:04
But ultimately he chose bread and wine.
39:06
Why? Is there some reason that
39:07
logically bread and wine works best for communion?
39:11
God chose that. God chose it.
39:14
And sometimes with divine revelation, we can't reason or
39:17
rationalize our way to the same conclusion, right?
39:19
The Trinity reasoning and rationalizing our way to the
39:22
conclusion of why God is 3 persons and one person or one
39:26
godhead. Why that is the case in some
39:28
sense in the human logic, it's we can't understand it, right?
39:32
But it's divinely given to us as revelation.
39:34
So we can accept it divinely as revelation.
39:36
So that's why the Pope is like, no, Jesus instituted it this
39:40
way. It's been this way for 2000
39:42
years. It will always be this way.
39:44
Why? Because Jesus said so.
39:47
There you go. I hope that's enough for the
39:50
Christians listening. It should be enough for the
39:51
Christians listening. And if you're not a Christian
39:53
and you're like, I still don't like that.
39:55
I don't buy that, OK, You don't have to.
39:57
You you're, you're choosing not to follow Jesus Christ.
40:00
That's OK. I mean, I would say it's not OK,
40:02
you should follow Jesus Christ. Your life will be eternally
40:05
better because of it, and you need Jesus.
40:08
But Jesus is not forcing you to believe in him or in his
40:13
teachings, including his teaching on the priesthood.
40:16
You can defy it and say I don't believe it, but that's what
40:18
Jesus taught and that's what we obey.
40:19
OK, So that's what the Holy Father said.
40:22
No now. Because only men can be priests
40:25
in no way means that women aren't valuable or as have as
40:29
much dignity and honor. Zero.
40:33
The man's beautiful vocation of being able to be a father.
40:36
A priest does not take away from a woman's beautiful vocation to
40:41
be a mother, or to be a sister or religious sister or religious
40:44
mother or a nun, or to be a biological mother or spiritual
40:47
mother. Someone else's beautiful
40:50
vocation doesn't mean that your vocation isn't beautiful or your
40:54
life and your calling isn't beautiful.
40:57
So I think that a lot of the whole clutching at, well, why
41:00
can't women be priests? And you know, it comes from a
41:03
deep insecurity, quite frankly, that somehow it's not good
41:06
enough for us to not be priests as women, that we have to be
41:09
priests. We have to do everything that
41:10
men do. No, you don't.
41:12
Men don't give birth. There's a, there's a lot of
41:14
things men can't do that we do. And why is it?
41:18
Does that mean men aren't as good as us?
41:19
No, of course not. It just means that we're
41:21
different. And I think that's beautiful and
41:24
that's part of God's design and we should embrace it and we
41:27
should not wrestle against it. We should just embrace it.
41:30
So there's some other stuff that Pope Francis said as well beyond
41:35
no, women can't be priests. We're going to actually talk
41:38
about some of that over at the Locals page.
41:41
We're going to be streaming on locals here shortly.
41:44
I think there's a link in the bio for it.
41:47
Not quite yet. You got to go to locals.com to
41:49
my page there. If you're already a member, it's
41:51
going to show up for you. But we're going to be there in
41:53
just a few minutes to do a special exclusive live stream
41:56
just for our Locals members. So check it out over there.
42:00
And we're going to talk about the Pope's comments about
42:02
seminarians because he made other comments recently that
42:06
sounded for some people derogatory towards people with
42:09
same sex attraction. We're going to break that down
42:11
over on the locals page. I'm going to go back to the chat
42:13
over here. If you have any questions, put
42:15
them in here. Thanks so much for all the
42:17
comments, everybody. Zach is saying I'm a Christ
42:20
follower, husband, father and pastor in that order.
42:24
That's awesome. Great order right there, by the
42:26
way. Thank you, Zach.
42:28
He says men can also value their calling as husbands and fathers
42:32
over their professional calling. Keep up the good work.
42:34
Really love that. I really love that Zach brought
42:38
this up because thank you, Zach, because Harrison Bucker actually
42:41
said that in the commencement speech that he actually thanked
42:44
his wife. We didn't play this clip, but he
42:45
thanked his wife for helping him always choose ultimately his
42:49
role as husband and father over his career.
42:52
And I thought that was so beautiful because he has an
42:54
extremely demanding career being in the NFL.
42:58
And, you know, there was a whole Tom Brady controversy about Tom
43:02
Brady and his wife Gazelle, who was saying that she didn't want
43:06
to be with him because she was prioritizing his career over
43:09
her. And, you know, there was,
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unfortunately, a divorce from that.
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And it's very beautiful that Harrison publicly is saying my
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first priority is my wife and my children.
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I love that. So thank you for that comment,
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Zach. Some other comments here, Lynn
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Burroughs. It's not logic.
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It's faith. Yeah.
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Talking about why only men can be priests.
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Exactly. It's not like there's some
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logical explanation why men can be priests because they're
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somehow better at being priests in this XYZ way.
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No, it's just faith. It's a matter of faith.
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This is what God gave us. This is what God's teaching as
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Jesus is teaching is on this. We are going to be over at local
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shortly, but I want to also pull up a couple questions here.
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I want to address a couple other quick things before we wrap
44:55
here. There's a crushing in from Nino.
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Would you be able to bring Gabby after hours to talk about Mother
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Mary, her spiritual motherhood and the rosary?
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Thanks for the tip. I will check them out.
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Nina's also quoting Fulton Sheen, who says if Jesus wanted
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women to be priests, he would have made his Blessed Mother one
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out of all the men and women followers.
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Jesus spent a night in prayer before choosing the 12.
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That's a great quote. He said it.
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He said it so well. Why didn't he choose mother,
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Mother Mary to be a priest? She had a very high calling.
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She didn't need to be a priest. She was the mother of God.
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We all have different callings and that's beautiful and that's
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good. Thank you for that.
45:34
There was a lot. There has been a lot of
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questions I've been getting about and I'm going to mention
45:40
this because I have been talking about on the podcast but haven't
45:43
talked about it recently about the Gaza Israel war.
45:47
I wanted to have an expert on the podcast who talked about the
45:51
perspective of the Palestinian crisis because there is an
45:53
absolute humanitarian crisis happening.
45:55
Gaza continue to send me your suggestions.
45:58
We haven't landed the right guest yet.
45:59
We're looking for someone who can talk about this
46:01
intelligently and passionately and share their perspective.
46:05
But I've always been looking at both sides of the conflict.
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But ultimately I look at what Hamas did on October 7th and I
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see that as an absolute atrocity and Israel is trying to
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ultimately wipe out Hamas. It's extremely difficult to do
46:20
when Gaza is filled with women and children who also deserve
46:23
protection and are innocent and families.
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So we're going to talk about that more in the show.
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I promised to do that earlier this year.
46:30
We're still going to be doing that, but send me your
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suggestions. Send me your ideas for that and
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we will get to that in the future programming.
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All right, guys, thank you so much for joining the show.
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We're going to be over at Locals shortly to do AQ and a with just
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the Locals audience and questions that we've been
46:43
getting in over there. Check it out at locals.com and
46:46
for those watching this later at the link will be in the bio for
46:48
that if you want to join the Locals community and we'll see
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you guys all next time. Thanks so much for joining.