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Kierra Sheard-Kelly, Stellar Award-winning Artist, Actress, and Entrepreneur, motivates in her new book "Big, Bold, and Beautiful: Owning the Woman God Made You to Be." · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: It's what I say every time I start this show.
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  Speaker 1: next is I call a kiky care or shared Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: That's to my interview that she wasn't killing, but that's
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  Speaker 1: all right. That's how she's Grammy winner, Stellar Award winning
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  Speaker 1: four figured women, and now Arthur Big, Bold and Beautiful
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  Speaker 1: owning the woman God made You to be. It is
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  Speaker 1: an inspirational memoir book for your mind, body, spirit, and
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  Speaker 1: money making conversation. She's my friend, Ki Ki care shared Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: how you knowing my friend? I am doing? How are
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  Speaker 1: you well? I'm excited, you know, I always get excited
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  Speaker 1: in her peer group, you know, because you're she looked
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  Speaker 1: up to you. She follows you. She she finds uh
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  Speaker 1: your unblinding faith, your your ability to achieve success. And
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  Speaker 1: I usually as an example a lot of times. So
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  Speaker 1: whenever you come on the show, I'm always excited and
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  Speaker 1: she gets excited. So her name is Christianity McDonald's. But
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Now let's talk about this book. Before we
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  Speaker 1: talk about book, let's talk about now that the movie
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  Speaker 1: been out, you know, because when I interviewed you, the
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  Speaker 1: movie came out. But now we've had a year of
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  Speaker 1: the movie being out. How has that transformed your life?
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  Speaker 1: The movie I'm talking about is The Clark's Sisters First
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  Speaker 1: Ladies of Gospel. Well, it has changed my life in
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  Speaker 1: so many ways. One way is when I go to
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  Speaker 1: the store now, I seem like more people know who
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  Speaker 1: I am and they're relating to me as Karen or
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  Speaker 1: calling me Karen. So it has changed my life in
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  Speaker 1: that way. But it also stretched me to be honest
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  Speaker 1: um trying to portray my mother vocally and just as
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  Speaker 1: a person because she's so gracious and she's like a
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  Speaker 1: quiet storm who is not intimidated by people. But it
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  Speaker 1: comes off as like an innocence or like a it's
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  Speaker 1: just so soft. I had to kind of pull back
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  Speaker 1: while working on that role. So it's changed my life
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  Speaker 1: as a woman, and I think it prepared me to
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  Speaker 1: not knowing then while I was actually doing the role
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  Speaker 1: as a single woman that is preparing me to be
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  Speaker 1: a wife and a mother, just to see things differently. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so it really has changed my life in so many ways.
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  Speaker 1: Of course it was a resume builder, but it was
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  Speaker 1: me performing for my mother, and so it was really
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  Speaker 1: special for me. But it was special in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ways because you know, you reveal, you pull back
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  Speaker 1: to the curtain. In other words, you know, they told
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  Speaker 1: a story about your grandmother, told a story about your
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  Speaker 1: mom and her sister's experience in dealing with your grandmother.
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  Speaker 1: Someone was rather sensitive, and which is great because it
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  Speaker 1: was a story about a woman pushing her children to
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  Speaker 1: be the best that they could be. And I kind
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  Speaker 1: of take that away and fast forward. I look at
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  Speaker 1: the book Big, Bold and Beautiful. That book is about
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  Speaker 1: pushing you and your friends pushing you and helping you
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  Speaker 1: and supporting you to be the best key key you
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  Speaker 1: can be? Is that correct? Absolutely? And I'm it's so
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  Speaker 1: important because you know, I'm a woman to face. So
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  Speaker 1: I believe in the scripture when it says that iron
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  Speaker 1: sharping's iron. And I was just talking to my friend
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  Speaker 1: Tasha Covs Lenard and she brought out a great point,
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  Speaker 1: she said, Keith, when you say iron sharping's iron, it
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  Speaker 1: could be negative iron that's sharpening negative iron ore. It
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  Speaker 1: could be positive versus positive. And so I think it's
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  Speaker 1: so important what I talked about it in the book
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  Speaker 1: Self Care has everything to do with your squad. You know,
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  Speaker 1: how they're pouring into you, how they're pushing you into destiny,
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  Speaker 1: how they're reminding you of the promises of God. You
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  Speaker 1: have people around you who's always picking at you, and
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  Speaker 1: negative Nancy or negative Joe or whoever you want to
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  Speaker 1: call it. It's like it'll drain you and it cause
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  Speaker 1: you to believe the complete opposite of what you've been dreaming.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's so important to be very particular
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  Speaker 1: what who's in your space, because you can ask somebody
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  Speaker 1: that's against you and they can cover themselves up. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a what do they say, a wolve in sheep's clothing.
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  Speaker 1: So it's so important that we are selective in that area. Yes, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know it's important we talk about this. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: slow everything down because I want everybody to understand the
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  Speaker 1: value of this book. And it's not a value that
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  Speaker 1: just a female gender can can take. Nugget to wait.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a successful in person in this business. I'm a male.
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  Speaker 1: And when I started reading the book, I went, okay,
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  Speaker 1: relatable because one of the chapters where you talk about
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  Speaker 1: I always have a phrase, you know, you can't save everyone.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you only have one life jacket. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: let them go. You talk about it in one of
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  Speaker 1: your chapters about that about people around you and not
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  Speaker 1: understanding that you know, you can't worry sometimes about other
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  Speaker 1: people's rent or the food on their table if they're
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  Speaker 1: not if they don't worry body. And there's a chapter
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  Speaker 1: about that, and it was really from a business and
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  Speaker 1: from a life perspective. I was floored at the relatability
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  Speaker 1: because I go, wow, this is how I think. And
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  Speaker 1: so when some people do memoirs and you're such a
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  Speaker 1: young person, I'm gonna I'm gonna remind you that you're
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  Speaker 1: a young person. And but you also say I've lived
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  Speaker 1: an adults life, you know, and so and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get into that in the book, because but let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about that. The whole chapter where you wrote about people
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  Speaker 1: around you, and then you're taking it personal how you
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  Speaker 1: should treat them. You over worry about them, what they
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  Speaker 1: think about you, because it does as an entrepreneur, beyond
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  Speaker 1: a relationship can be damaging. Correct, absolutely, And one thing
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  Speaker 1: that I've learned, and I talked about it in the book,
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  Speaker 1: is that when dealing with people, you have to understand
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  Speaker 1: you're not just dealing with what you have on the surface,
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  Speaker 1: but you're also dealing with the culture that they've come from,
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  Speaker 1: the trauma that they've experienced. So you're not just responding
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  Speaker 1: in that moment to the comment they made. It's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things that are behind that statement, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when we communicate with each other or sometimes and I'm
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  Speaker 1: nowhere in the culture now where everybody is living for
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  Speaker 1: the read ready to let somebody have it. I'm about
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  Speaker 1: to show this person sleep while sleep. But I guess
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  Speaker 1: for me, the way I have been moving through life,
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  Speaker 1: what has changed my perspective is to simply understand you're
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  Speaker 1: not just responding to the person. You're responding to their
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  Speaker 1: life circumstances that have molded them into who they are today.
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  Speaker 1: And some people do things and it's not everything should
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  Speaker 1: not be taken personally. So I absolutely agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: And if we don't have that understanding, and if we're
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  Speaker 1: always taking things personally will always be responding to any
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  Speaker 1: and everything to where it will take so much energy.
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  Speaker 1: It will shift our focus off of what we really
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  Speaker 1: should be focused on onto that person and just that scenario.
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  Speaker 1: And so I have had to learn that the picture
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  Speaker 1: is bigger than me. It's it's so far beyond one moment,
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  Speaker 1: like be a student at every opportunity you get. But
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  Speaker 1: even in the book I talk about, it's a chapter
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  Speaker 1: called making the most of every Opportunity, and I just
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  Speaker 1: that absolutely Chapter four, that's the chapter where Shimika, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and y'all went to West Africa, you know. And because
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  Speaker 1: y'all read your book now I read your book. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's the beauty of this book. Okay, uh, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about I'm talking to Keiki or kre She or Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Jordan in a minute, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because she had to she had to figure out how
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  Speaker 1: to find him, and she talks about that journey because
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you know, at one point in life. Let me
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  Speaker 1: get ahead of the story, because I want to go
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  Speaker 1: back a little bit about this is why I really
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  Speaker 1: loved the book. Because you're you're beautiful, your your your faith,
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  Speaker 1: you come from a legacy, family or gospel, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: people can see a certain degree of perfection. And we
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  Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit in your book, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Silver Spoon chapter, Yeah, and finding yourself. And in
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  Speaker 1: the process of that, when you talk about the bad relationship,
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  Speaker 1: I went, wow, you know, because people don't think you
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  Speaker 1: have a bad she said, people don't think that you
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  Speaker 1: have bad days. And I felt to me. And it's
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  Speaker 1: written early on in the book, because I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was important, because any young reader, especially young women readers.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was important that you allowed yourself to
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  Speaker 1: show us the side of you that we didn't see.
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  Speaker 1: We see we see success, we see awards, we see
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  Speaker 1: a happy marriage, we see photo ops in essence and
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  Speaker 1: magazines and online. But that was important that you wrote
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  Speaker 1: the truth to a degree of showing people that I
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  Speaker 1: am just like you. I have bad days, I make
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  Speaker 1: mistakes in the men that I select, I am not perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about the importance of that. Well, first, it's
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  Speaker 1: important at one scenario that I remember when I started
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  Speaker 1: to understand the significance in the process of healing is
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  Speaker 1: when I fell off of a bike. And I think
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  Speaker 1: I talked about this in the book, but I fell
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  Speaker 1: off of a bike and my mom, of course, she
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  Speaker 1: told me, you know what to do, go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: put on a band aid, but she noticed that I
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  Speaker 1: kept getting in the tub and taking showers with the
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  Speaker 1: or the scalp began to get soggy, so it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: healing properly. So it was becoming something more than what
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  Speaker 1: it actually was in that moment. So speaking of transparency
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  Speaker 1: they can heal properly. And that's what I'm doing through
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  Speaker 1: talking about it. But not only that. This form appealing
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  Speaker 1: which as a woman of faith, there's a scripture that says,
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  Speaker 1: confess your thoughts one to another that you may receive healing.
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  Speaker 1: Therapy did not come from culture. Therapy came from God.
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  Speaker 1: He says, I'm gonna give you people that you can
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  Speaker 1: all in who I talked to. If I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: the right person, A righteous individual. I can trust that
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  Speaker 1: then they can carry my secrets, carry my issues, and
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  Speaker 1: he can give me a gallant. I can give him
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  Speaker 1: a gallant with filling each other up. And so that's
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  Speaker 1: why I wanted to tell young women that to the
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  Speaker 1: other problem was speaking of young people. My father told
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  Speaker 1: me the rude word of dating is data. Talk about
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: money making conversations. We put up ourselves for discount, Louis Vitton,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: don't go on discount. Why do you think you need
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: to put yourself up on discount? So make sure you
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  Speaker 1: understand that you don't have to play wife to someone
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: that's only making themselves available as boyfriend. Play the game,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: and as Steve Harvey said, think act like a woman,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: but think like a man. And so that's why I
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  Speaker 1: had to play the game and I had to learn Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I may not be your cup of tea, but I'm
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: for show a hot, spicy comp of tea. It's some
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: it's some ginger in there. Okay, I'm telling you, this
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: is the book. This is the book. I'm like, I'm
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: t I am so excited, you know this, this whole book,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: The Big Bowl and Beautiful Owning the woman God made
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you to be. And that's just a sample size of
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: what came out and just hit me in my face
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: in a positive way because this is We're in an
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: interesting life because, like you said, when you was eighteen,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: in the period when you hit the record labels, they
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: only take pictures of your face and profiles. They didn't
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: really want to take a picture of your full body.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: That was before you know, the curved dove came out
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: with those curvy ads and the curvy full figure models
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: were hitting the runways and all that. Talk about that period.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Because I have a lot of parents listening to the show,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: and I may have some young adults, especially women, and
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: this is about the section. I really want to focus
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: on the women conversation because men in journal don't have
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the physical size issues that women have to deal with,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: because commercials tell you should look like this, commercial print
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: asks tell you should wear this size and things like that,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna get into you being launching that
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: that that what someone would consider a negative experience into
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: a successful business eleven sixty. But talk about when you
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: was eighteen at the record label. Yeah, I'm so excited
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: that you read. But I have to say, um, that
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: was an interesting experience. And I think I mentioned before
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: while we were talking. Sometimes you have this pushback from
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: areas that you didn't expect it, and it can be
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: from places that you trusted, hoping that it will be
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: a place to that would build you up. But that's
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the moment where you figure out, oh you're therena tear
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: me down. It was just you had to get in
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: good with me. And so I definitely had that that
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: experience where, um, you know, I just dealt with industry
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: pressure and um it's simple as I am, I often
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: still have to tell people, you know, listen, I love
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: God I'm a simple girl. I don't want to always
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: put on and I think this, uh, the new culture
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and even the listeners and the demo, they're learning that
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I don't got to do all of that, you know, anymore.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: And if I don't, there is an audience that is
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: waiting to hear from me. And of course, now I'm
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: not saying don't change your position in heart, because I
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: think it's so important that we remain students at heart,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: because that's what makes you timeless. But I think, uh,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the other piece that young women should know it is
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: to not compare yourselves. Uh. I think Theodore Roosevelt said
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: before that comparison is the thief of joy. You'll find
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: yourself trying to catch up with culture saying is the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: pretty thing to do or the thing to do, and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: find that it's unobtainable for you because that was never
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: for you, that wasn't assigned to you. And so speaking
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: of the word big in this this book, uh, it was.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: It was an insecurity for me once upon a time.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: But I had to stop asking people what they thought
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: about me in my life, and I had to ask God,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: what do you think? Let me ask the inventor about
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: his invention rather than going with people. That's just trying
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to figure out how do I stay in touch with you.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: But I have those chapters in the book, and one
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: chapter chapter eight, and says, stop comparing you stole my
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I'm so mad at you. You stole my thought because
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I'm about to say that chapter eight. I'm about to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: say stop comparing yourself. It's chapter eight. You're making me mad. Now,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I gotta let you know I love this book, girl,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I love the book. That's chapter eight. You just recited
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: chapter eight, Yes, sir, And I was gonna throw out
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that chapter um chapter fourteen to where I say, stop
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: looking at the other woman because you've got the Jews. Sometimes.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: The court I love out of chapter eight is no
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  Speaker 1: one had the power to be me. Yeah, that's and
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: that's the quote I wrote down out of chapter eight.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: That's why I still with me, because you know, you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I'm having a great conversation and with you, and I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: just want to just let you know that it resonated
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: with me because in the end, you know, writing the book,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I've been fortunate to be around individuals who
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: have written a successful book. And as you start to write,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you have a story but then you start taking layers
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: off and you go, wow, I forgot about that. I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: forgot about that. And then I know in writing this book,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: layers are starting to get peel back. And it's also
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: is a relief, Like like you said, to be able
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to tell your story was a blessing for the reader,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: but also a blessing from you for you because of
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the fact that you would able to get these layers
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: out and realize how much you've grown as a person.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Because at one point in your life you just want
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to get married. You just felt there was a need
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to get married. And I want to bring that up
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: because sometimes a man in this case, because you're a woman,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a man would walk into your life, that doesn't mean
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: that's the man. And and and that's what this book
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: talks about because the man that she eventually got with,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: who had that gallon of water because she needed a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: gallon of water, she had known him all her life.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: He had been walking around all his and he didn't
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: even know it either. So it wasn't on her. It
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't just on her not seeing that that that they
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: both were walking into church or walking through life half field.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: They had eventually slowed down and realized we've been looking
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: at the wrong opportunity when the opportunity was sitting right
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: across the aisle in this case church. Talk about that.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Come on, I know, preaching a little bit for your
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: MISSI Kiki. You know what I'm saying. You are driving
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: jails and I'm loving it. Um, I can only agree
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: with you. I think to a part of that evolution
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: for me was me having the time of being single.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: So there's also a chapter in the book where I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: talk about being successfully single because you have to find
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: yourself because, like you said, every person that comes in
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: your life that ain't always the one. And I think
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: it goes back a point to the again to the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: point that Dad mentioned, which was date the person, collect
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the information so you can draw the conclusion or the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: final result. So I definitely agree. I think you said
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: it all. But again my husband showed me that no,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you're not complicated. It's just you were asking the wrong
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: person to love on you and they weren't equipped to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: give you what you needed. And so I definitely agree
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: with that all. And I think too, if we're not
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: careful because we are in the wrong place, will begin settling.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: We'll say I've been asking for this. I've been praying
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: for this, and we'll look at everybody else's like like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I said, once upon a time, what was Sierra's prayer
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: with russell Um? And so I understand what that's like.
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  Speaker 1: But we also have to get to a place where
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not settling for anything outside of what I asked for, Like, no,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that's out there. If God put it in you uh
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: to ask for it in prayer, if you have the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: audacity to think of it, then it's obtainable. It's just
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: make sure you're available and open to love. But I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: was so closed off and wanting one thing to work
• 24:35
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  Speaker 1: way successfully singles. Chapter twelve, okay, chapter twenty just laid down. No,
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  Speaker 1: were just breaking down the chapter as you go alone,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: because now I want to go back before we wrap up.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the entrepreneurship because that's a
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: part of this that really blew this book up for
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: me because it's written from a woman's perspective, but it
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: also layers out how you took a negative you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: uh and turning into a business. But along the way
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you had to uh you know, because because it was
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a link that I think Lukisha sent to you, the
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  Speaker 1: Lukisha sent to you that that enabled you to get
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: into Macy's. And so that's why you say you are
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the ball. That's the that's the God is the ball,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: bar God is your agent. That's that chapter. God is
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: that age the chapter. And I'll tell I'll tell, okay,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I um, you know, I for the reason I'm excited
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: because you know, I've interviewed you and we we've we've
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: we've we've because we like our tone. But to really
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: see how beautiful you are and how how you you
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you're giving us a blessing in this book to be
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: able to change lives. That's because that's what I think,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: like a man, Uh did for a lot of women.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It just opened their eyes. And this book can do
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: so much for so many young women, women who are
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: trying to start businesses, women who are frustrating relationship, women
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: who are doubting themselves physically, mentally, emotionally, but more importantly,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the fastest growing business of franchise, of of of of
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the business world or women and especially women of color.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And to write a book where I think lends so
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: many value lessons of how to cause. I've talked about
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Courtney and Courtney that's your ride or die? You know
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When was being stupid, you called Courtney
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and she didn't say nothing negative about you, she didn't
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: throw it back in your face. She said, hey, come
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: with me, girl, let's go over here. Let's keep supporting you.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And so, but these are the people that you talk about.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You layout you said, Richard, you gotta have the people
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: because you know, it was funny when you were talking
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: about Courtney, I was thinking about my ride to die? Dude,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: who was that person? So you made me sit back
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and go, Okay, Mr Successful, who is your courtney, because
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you gotta have a courtney. You gotta have somebody to
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: call when you die, because you're gonna have down days,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you have doubtful days. Who was that person? But more importantly,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that led you to become an entrepreneur and that's where
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you had you know, your your other girl stepping in
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: when your travel made with all over the world career,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: everything for your business, and was sitting right there with
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you in Macy's launching. Your didn't know what you was
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: really doing, but you did it. That's his faith. But
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: there was also having somebody support your dream, talk about that.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: It's important. And I've been in a space where I've
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: had people around that we're there, you know, just by
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: work and happenstance, but they weren't really in my corner.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: They didn't understand my vision um and it's like, you know, okay,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: how do we collaborate together? How are we? You know?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Life partners is not just in the marriage and has
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: everything to to do with your purpose. When you make
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: decisions in your work or in your career, it shouldn't
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: feel like work. It should feel like fun, like I'm
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: just I'm just living on purpose. This is just what
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I'm called to do. And I think that when you're
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: prayerful and asking God Lord, give me this sense of
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: dissernment so I can know who is assigned to me
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and who's supposed to watch this journey for me or
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: with me. Because there are expiration dates on some relationships
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and connections that we have. But if we don't respect them,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: then we'll get exasperated, we can become sick. It's like
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: if we drink some milk that has an expiration date
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: on it, eventually it will make us sick. Our bodies
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: won't respond well to it. And so it's this aint
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: thing with people. So you said it again from reading
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the book, but it's so important to make sure that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: tribe and I talk about it again twice. So it
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: was Squad goes and then it was another chapter called
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: finding your Tribe. When you're going out into the earth,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you it's not you can't fight everything. You need somebody
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to have your back. And so those names that you called,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: they're simply women who I have said it is family.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And you know what, if you allow me as a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: woman of faith, I'm always giving scripture. But there's a
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: scripture that says, um I will give you a friend
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: that is closer than the brother that wasn't Jesus that
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: they were talking about. They were talking about human beings,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and so I think we should understand that covenant relationships
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: are ordained by Heaven and God loves us through people.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: But it's just a matter of who are the people
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: were saying yes to. Because the adversary the appoint the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: opponent that he also uses people. So make sure you
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: say yes to the right people. Wow. You know, um,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I think that I expected this from you. Uh, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that don't apologize. Uh, It's been an inspirational but the
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: whole prospect though, would you say it is faith? When
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you was at Macy's with Shamika, your girl, you're you're
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: rider die Korea, you know, Dubai. I'm just we're just
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: calling out some countries that y'all went to, you know,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: in West Africa. You know. Just let you know, you
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: boy read the book, you know, just this case. You
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: thought I was stumbling. You know, I'm not reading nothing.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not reading nothing. I'm just I'm just I'm just
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: coming from you know, God's membory. That's all. That's all
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I'm doing. God God's spending right here, but but you
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: thank you so much. I think it was it was.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: It was a faith piece for sure, because um it,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I looked at it as spam when my cousin Keisha
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: sent it to me, I was like, girl, you know
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: how they send those chain text messages and they say
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: signed up for this, and I'm like, I'm not signing
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: up for this, Like it was just like whatever. So
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I really wasn't expecting every opportunity, even this book opportunity,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: if you allow me to use that as a reference point.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: The opportunity was in an email account that I just
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: had put aside for spam. But something told me, and
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: you know again, excuse me, I'm a church girl, so
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you're know how the scene the season says, they say, girl,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that wasn't something that was the whole a goals. But
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: something told me to go and check the email and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: here I am bumping into a book opportunity. And so
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I definitely think it was divine. But I think and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I believe, that God uses people to hand you what
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: belongs to you, that he gives you those moments. And
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: that's why I said it in that chapter, Um, God
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: as my agent, because sometimes you know pr management they
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I mean believe me when I say they put in
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the hard work and it has everything to do with
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: where we're going and where we are. But sometimes God
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: does things so that only he can get the glory.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And so I will say, you know, God took me there,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: but there was some other moments where I had to
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: work for it. So even in the word it says
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you gotta put action to your faith so you can
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: believe a thing. But what you're gonna do when you
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: get there? So a lot of us are like, oh,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I want this, I want that, I want this, I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: want that, But are you ready for it? Is your
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: character gonna keep you there? Is your work ethic gonna
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: keep you there. So I definitely think it is two
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: things that are colliding together, and it is my faith
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and my action. I'm just I've been loving it. You know.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I rarely do I have interviews whereas a motivational This
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: motivational interview right here, you just dropping these nuggers. I
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: was just sitting back on do your thing. You're do
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: your thing? What do I pass to plate? What do
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I pass to play? Because you are dropping scriptures, you're
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: dropping the truth. But more importantly, you've written an amazing book, big,
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