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Loni Love, Lecrae, Tina Lifford, JJ & Trina Hairston · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and
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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me
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Speaker 1: advice on many occasions in ocasion didn't notice, I'm not broke.
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Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and
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Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. It's
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Speaker 1: I love that intro. It's what he likes to do,
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Speaker 1: what he likes to say, what he's like the comment
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Speaker 1: on that's true. I like to comment on a lot
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Speaker 1: of things in my life and the life and things
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Speaker 1: I see in your life, and things I see o television,
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Speaker 1: things I read, and as I travel, you get to
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Speaker 1: experience a lot of different situations that allows you either
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Speaker 1: issues at hand. I'm a confronter. Something bothers me. I
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Speaker 1: to how to react to the information financially, socially, educationally,
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Speaker 1: and more importantly, if you're trying to change your life
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Speaker 1: through your dreams, through gold setting. One of one of
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Speaker 1: the key roles in my interview that I'm about to
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Speaker 1: go into is that the family experience. One of the
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Speaker 1: key roles that we live in our lives as entrepreneurs
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Speaker 1: or small business owners is the amount of time that
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Speaker 1: you place with your family. Who are what is first
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Speaker 1: in your life? Is that your family? Where is your faith?
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Speaker 1: How about work? Your business? What is first? Where are
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Speaker 1: your spiritual beliefs aligned? In this emotional countdown, that's what
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about today's small business owners, people, gold setters, dreamers.
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Speaker 1: We ever talk, We ever talked a lot of We're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about a lot of things with my next
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Speaker 1: two guests. One is the CEO and founder. Jamestown Music
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Speaker 1: is a Grammy nominated Billboard Music Art Award artists two
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Speaker 1: time Stellar Award artists J Harrison and Youthful Praise going
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Speaker 1: to their first ever number one Billboard Top Gospel Airplay
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Speaker 1: chart hit with their single You deserve it. In He's
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Speaker 1: John on the show today with his wife to discuss
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Speaker 1: their book A Miracle Marriage. I Forgive You, I trust you,
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Speaker 1: I Believe You, Volume one, they state that marriage is sacred,
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Speaker 1: marriage is powerful. For marriage has also been under attack
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Speaker 1: for quite some time. So on Money Making Conversations today,
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Speaker 1: we would discuss these things I mentioned in many upmore things.
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Speaker 1: Please working the Money Making Conversations JJ and Trina Hashton,
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Speaker 1: How are you pretty good? My friend? Pretty good? Welcome
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Speaker 1: back to the show. Thank you for having me. I'm
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Speaker 1: always whether you are well, trainer, you're there, Yes, I'm here.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for having your Absolutely as you saw, I
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Speaker 1: made some comments about myself and uh, the family and
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Speaker 1: uh and a lot of people when you're I'm talking
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Speaker 1: to two entrepreneurs there, small business owners. People are living
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Speaker 1: their dreams and their dreams are being put in place
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Speaker 1: through their goal setting into their consistency. Where is put
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Speaker 1: in perspective before we actually get into into the book,
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Speaker 1: the role of the family and uh, and it's in
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Speaker 1: your role of being successful as entrepreneurs. We we we
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Speaker 1: honestly believe that your family comes first. You believe families
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Speaker 1: is your first ministry. And now often say that God
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Speaker 1: does things in order. He's not gonna bless you with
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Speaker 1: this you know family, his wife, these children and then
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Speaker 1: expect you to put them to the side so that
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Speaker 1: you can build a career um outside of the home.
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Speaker 1: But we believe that God there's things in order, so
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Speaker 1: that if you build your home and you do it
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Speaker 1: in the correct way, honoring your wife and teaching your
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Speaker 1: children the principles of God, that he will set things
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Speaker 1: in line for you when it comes to your career
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Speaker 1: and the things that the people that you need to meet,
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Speaker 1: the people that you need to connect with, All of
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Speaker 1: that for us come together when you put your marriage
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Speaker 1: and your family first, because God is we believe God
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Speaker 1: is a god of order. So in doing so, UM.
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Speaker 1: If you if you've read our book, and I believe
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Speaker 1: you have, and maybe someone else out there has read it. Um.
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Speaker 1: When things were not in order in our household, Uh,
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Speaker 1: things were not in order for nother one of our careers.
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Speaker 1: We didn't know what we wanted to do, and even
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Speaker 1: the things that we did desire to do just didn't
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Speaker 1: seem to come together the way we needed them to
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Speaker 1: come together. Um. But it wasn't until we decided that
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Speaker 1: we were going to put our family first. UM. J
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Speaker 1: J had made a decision that he was going to
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Speaker 1: UM get his family back together at whatever cost that meant,
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Speaker 1: whether it meant UM having to start all over career wise,
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Speaker 1: or whatever it meant. He was determined to put his
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Speaker 1: family back together. And once he did that, believe it
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Speaker 1: or not, UM, what he started hearing from God started changing.
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Speaker 1: The music that he started hearing in his conversation and
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Speaker 1: his relationship with God started to change. And as a
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Speaker 1: result of that, UM, you see the j J that
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Speaker 1: you have today. That is the Grammy nominated and the
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Speaker 1: stellars in UM, and that's traveling all over the country.
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Speaker 1: That did not happen until we got our family together. JJ,
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Speaker 1: your turn me. I mean, my life always said it
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Speaker 1: so perfectly. UM. You know we we initially and this
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Speaker 1: is probably UM you can attest to this as well, Sean. UM,
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Speaker 1: we we got married before things really happened for us,
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Speaker 1: and before we started we weren't even think about studying
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Speaker 1: businesses and all that. We just got married and we
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Speaker 1: were still making music and everything while we were while
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Speaker 1: we were married, and like my wife said, you know,
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Speaker 1: we've gotten some moderate success, but things didn't change for
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Speaker 1: us until our our family was in order, our home
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Speaker 1: was in order, and then we were actually clear in
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Speaker 1: our minds, we were clear in our horrors. There was nothing,
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Speaker 1: there was no hinder us between us and God, and
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Speaker 1: he was able to give us different visions, different dreams,
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Speaker 1: different ideas that have exploded on us and and really
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Speaker 1: put put us another place. So um, we always say
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Speaker 1: family first, home first. God is not going to trust
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Speaker 1: you to be a blessed to the world if he
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Speaker 1: can't even trust you with your house. Absolutely, it's really
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Speaker 1: when I was reading the book, it was you know,
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Speaker 1: the book is about Traina's truth and JJ's journey. It's
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Speaker 1: it's it's sectioned out throughout the book like that. And
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Speaker 1: one of the things that we're gonna go through different
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Speaker 1: sections of the book. And I'm not gonna first of all,
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Speaker 1: as a motivating book. Let me just tell it's an
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Speaker 1: uplifting book. This is not a sad but this is
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Speaker 1: not this is not a testimony about what we did.
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Speaker 1: It's about about information about what you can do right
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Speaker 1: and using their life and as an example, which is
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Speaker 1: very powerful because a lot of people don't want to
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Speaker 1: reveal any um missteps in their life because they're there there.
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Speaker 1: That's the shallow life that we live. You know. I
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Speaker 1: want to be perfect. I want to live in life
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Speaker 1: that doesn't have any negative moments. But that's not truth.
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Speaker 1: Those are not truths. And that's this book is about truths.
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Speaker 1: And what what what continually came out in each chapter
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Speaker 1: I read was they set examples up. They go into
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Speaker 1: the faith, to go into the Bible and show examples
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Speaker 1: why this happened, with why Jesus turned water into wine,
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Speaker 1: which would at a marriage ceremony that he was invited
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Speaker 1: to and he didn't, he didn't And so these are
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Speaker 1: all important things. And so I like it because of
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Speaker 1: the fact that you know, you know, when you walk
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Speaker 1: away from something, you know and you learn something. I
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Speaker 1: learned from this book, and so I want to point
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Speaker 1: this out so I might have a good time with
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Speaker 1: this book. I'm I'm up beat with Sean McDonald's up beat.
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Speaker 1: You know, I walked away. I walked away. I can't
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Speaker 1: wait for this interview. I got all these post is
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Speaker 1: we're gonna top and uh, because you know, you know
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Speaker 1: my natural background, I'm an uplifting guy. And so it
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Speaker 1: was one section of the book called cell phones and passwords?
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Speaker 1: Where God cell phones and passwords? If you like, I
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Speaker 1: can put my phone down anywhere in my house and
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Speaker 1: my wife can pick up my phone and shire she
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Speaker 1: asked me, what's your password? Give it to her. So
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Speaker 1: many people make mistakes with the two phones. I've never
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Speaker 1: had two phones in my life. First of all, okay,
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Speaker 1: I have one phone, one phone number. I never understand
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Speaker 1: the two phone system. Secondly, if if if you put
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Speaker 1: your phone down in anybody that you love or dating
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Speaker 1: of fiance, a wife goes towards your phone and you
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Speaker 1: dive into the phone, then you got a problem. You
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Speaker 1: got a problem because you got to be honest on
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Speaker 1: all levels. And that's all you're saying in this book,
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Speaker 1: and using the example of cell phones and password is
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Speaker 1: a great example from the common folk. We know how
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Speaker 1: we tied to that tech, knowlogy, and this technology can
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Speaker 1: be a barrier to get in your family right, to
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Speaker 1: get your relationship on point correct right. That's so true.
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Speaker 1: I know I never understood why in Teak housand nineteenes
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Speaker 1: we are still using cell phones or any kind of
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Speaker 1: electronic device to hide stuff, because as we know, with
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Speaker 1: computers they can be great, but they also can be
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Speaker 1: a curse. They can ruin your life. They will tell
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Speaker 1: every piece about you that you don't want. If you
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Speaker 1: pick up someone's cell phone these days, it's almost like
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Speaker 1: a into their lives. Um. So you got to be
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Speaker 1: an open book and you have to be very transparent
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Speaker 1: with your spouse about everything because as you say it,
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Speaker 1: it's only going to take a crack of a cell
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Speaker 1: phone um for them to open up and see what
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Speaker 1: you've been doing on your off time. Yes, and for
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Speaker 1: me that that that was part of our rebuilding process,
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Speaker 1: the fact that we were able to be as transparent
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Speaker 1: like there's nothing there's no um, there's no sight, there's
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Speaker 1: no page, there's no code that my wife does not
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Speaker 1: have for me because we need to be able to
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Speaker 1: be open with each other there. And the thing is
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Speaker 1: she doesn't even have to look, she doesn't even care
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Speaker 1: to look because she knows, she knows everything. I love it.
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Speaker 1: You're exactly right, and there's accord of the book. Marriage
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Speaker 1: is all tied to the amount of work. And if
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Speaker 1: you're not willing to put in the work, do not
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Speaker 1: get married. If you're not willing to put in the
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Speaker 1: work into your business, do not start a business. If
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Speaker 1: you're not willing to put in work in the job
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Speaker 1: that you're doing four day hours a week, change jobs.
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Speaker 1: You have to be committed to be successful, and marriage
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Speaker 1: is a part of that process. Your family is part
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Speaker 1: of your process, and family tied to making it number one,
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Speaker 1: meaning that you prioritized the set up because if you
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Speaker 1: if you got all the success in the world and
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Speaker 1: you go home to a dysfunctional family, guess what your
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Speaker 1: day's gonna be. Dysfunction. You're nice gonna be this function.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna wake up this function. So fix the family first,
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Speaker 1: and I promise you this shift to be right. That's
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Speaker 1: called a balanced life. That's what I preach on this show.
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Speaker 1: Another thing I wanted to talk about on the show
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Speaker 1: What You Guys, was talking on the phone having time
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Speaker 1: for each other. I know we got like three minutes left,
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Speaker 1: but I wanted to bring that up because that's an
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Speaker 1: issue that people have. You know, they they they talk
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Speaker 1: when they see each other. You know, because the telephone
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Speaker 1: is the new flowers to me, you know, send your
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Speaker 1: white flowers and your girlfriend flowers, send your send your
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Speaker 1: fiance flowers because you can you can communicate. Communications is
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Speaker 1: so key because no excuses. Back in the old days,
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Speaker 1: you know, you groting. Without telephone, the regular telephone, you
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Speaker 1: couldn't drive. You go to work, then you talk. You
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Speaker 1: could actually drive home and have a conversation. Use that
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Speaker 1: as valuable communication time for your relationship. Correct, that's what
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Speaker 1: That's exactly what we do, and we encourage all couples
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Speaker 1: to find a way to um give each other quality
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Speaker 1: time and for us because they're both busy. What we
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Speaker 1: what I vowed is when I'm in my car and
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Speaker 1: I'm driving, I could be driving the our the way,
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Speaker 1: I could be driving three hours away. I called her
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Speaker 1: and we talked the whole time I'm driving, because that's
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Speaker 1: uninterrupted time between you and your spouse. And and I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't even click over. Somebody called me the
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Speaker 1: text me or whatever. I answer those texts when I
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Speaker 1: get it where I'm going. But that's time I spend
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Speaker 1: with my wife. And there's been plenty times I drive
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Speaker 1: on my way home I talked to get in the garage.
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Speaker 1: Because when you see each other, you say, hey, how
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Speaker 1: you doing, how would you day? And that's it as
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Speaker 1: opposed to giving them time when you actually allow each
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Speaker 1: other to talk out your ideas talk about your point
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Speaker 1: and talk about what your dreams are, talking about how
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Speaker 1: you feel, you know, the things you can really talk
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Speaker 1: through when you're on the phone in the car. This
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Speaker 1: is amazing just hearing this, having this conversation. We gotta
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Speaker 1: got the album that came out and get this out.
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Speaker 1: It came out the Miracle Worker. We want to shout
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Speaker 1: that out, that that came out last mark. Uh. How's
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Speaker 1: it doing? Uh? What's the expectations of that one? After
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Speaker 1: that tremendous success on the previous one. It's doing great.
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Speaker 1: You know what I found with this one. I wanted
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Speaker 1: to go a little bit of a different direction. You
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Speaker 1: deserve it a lot of us to really have a
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Speaker 1: great um reach into Africa. So we recorded a few
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Speaker 1: African songs and It's Funny, just one one of the songs.
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Speaker 1: We just released a video for I'm Funny you have
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Speaker 1: like in four days and have like five hundred of
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Speaker 1: thousands US of somebody four to some thousands of view
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Speaker 1: because that's how they consume music. So we wanted to
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Speaker 1: release music in a way that would really appeal to
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Speaker 1: the African continent, and it's been really successful so far. Awesome,
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Speaker 1: My man. I want to thank both of you guys
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Speaker 1: for coming on my show. All right. As you can see,
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Speaker 1: I've fallen in love with the book, your brand, you're
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Speaker 1: getting uh, this is your home, training us your home too.
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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you. I'm glad you. I'm glad you
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Speaker 1: realized that I'm with your girl. I'm with you, boy.
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Speaker 1: We thank you. We appreciate your support and the support
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Speaker 1: about success, when I talk talk about work, you have
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Speaker 1: to put work in anything that you want, twenty four
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Speaker 1: hours a day. I always tell everybody there's an hour
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Speaker 1: Tell us your background how it all got started. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's um or really. I got a I'M front to
18:46
Speaker 1: boost the projects, didn't hand on money, and then one
18:49
Speaker 1: day I ended up going to UM. I got a
18:53
Speaker 1: scholarship to go down to Preview and University and UM.
18:59
Speaker 1: One day I just even though I had the scholarship,
19:01
Speaker 1: I didn't have any spending money. I was in a
19:03
Speaker 1: bot one day and it was like, well, we'll give
19:06
Speaker 1: somebody fifty dollars for the best story, and I needed
19:10
Speaker 1: don money. So I just got a fan say the story.
19:13
Speaker 1: I don't know what I said. I don't know what
19:15
Speaker 1: the story. I just made up something and got the
19:16
Speaker 1: fifty dollars. And that made me realize that people actually
19:21
Speaker 1: pay people to tell stories. I was like, oh, this
19:23
Speaker 1: is this is this is nice. But I decided to
19:27
Speaker 1: go ahead and get my degree since I was already
19:29
Speaker 1: down there, got a job. I got a job in
19:33
Speaker 1: UM in Los Angeles at Zeros and then UM I
19:37
Speaker 1: worked there and I never really thought i'd be a
19:40
Speaker 1: stand up but then one day I was like depressed.
19:43
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I wanted to do in my life.
19:45
Speaker 1: I just knew I wasn't happy. I didn't want to
19:47
Speaker 1: be marry UM. I had have boyfriend and all that
19:51
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and you know, and you know, you
19:53
Speaker 1: get a nice job and all this kind of stuff.
19:55
Speaker 1: Is happy to make the fishes in your life. But
19:57
Speaker 1: I just wasn't happy. And one day I went to
19:59
Speaker 1: the comedy store and I saw all these men doing
20:03
Speaker 1: stand up and I only saw one woman, and I
20:06
Speaker 1: was like, wow, that's interesting. It's just one woman. And
20:08
Speaker 1: he was talking on kind of stuff, you know, you
20:11
Speaker 1: know back then, you know, and the nieties that, oh yeah,
20:19
Speaker 1: that's what I started getting back in it. I started
20:22
Speaker 1: getting back in the stand up. I built up my
20:24
Speaker 1: career and one day we had a layoff at my
20:26
Speaker 1: job and I went to my boss. I said, you know,
20:29
Speaker 1: save the job and laid me off because I was
20:31
Speaker 1: I was the worst engineer and not a safe right,
20:39
Speaker 1: because first of all, you would not that's not what
20:41
Speaker 1: you wanted to do. It's just like IBM, I don't care.
20:44
Speaker 1: I as good a job as they said I was doing.
20:47
Speaker 1: My heart was not in the job. That was not
20:49
Speaker 1: your passion. Your gift was someplace else. And that's why
20:52
Speaker 1: I bring individuals like you're on the show, because there
20:54
Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there doing jobs right now.
20:56
Speaker 1: They're afraid to change, they're afraid to transition. How did
21:00
Speaker 1: you overcome that fear? Well, I overcome the fear by
21:06
Speaker 1: making a plan. I knew something. First of all, I
21:09
Speaker 1: had faith, and then I had faith that I knew
21:12
Speaker 1: that God was gonna, you know, show me the way.
21:15
Speaker 1: And then um, I had to make a plan. And
21:18
Speaker 1: my plan was basically, what what was I gonna do?
21:21
Speaker 1: So I tell anybody, no matter what you know, maybe
21:23
Speaker 1: you want to open up a daycare, you want to
21:25
Speaker 1: you know, open up a restaurant, you want to do
21:27
Speaker 1: a catering business. You know, any whatever is you're trying
21:30
Speaker 1: to do, study it. And that's one thing I like
21:33
Speaker 1: about engineering. Engineering taught me how to study, and actually
21:38
Speaker 1: it teaches you how to solve problems. For the problem
21:40
Speaker 1: was I wasn't happy and I wanted to get out
21:43
Speaker 1: of my current situation for I study. And I just
21:46
Speaker 1: sort of started studying comedy and and and understanding you know,
21:50
Speaker 1: what was a joke, what was funny, what wasn't funny?
21:53
Speaker 1: And people say, you can't you you could be naturally funny,
21:56
Speaker 1: you have to have that talent. But there's awesome mechanics
21:59
Speaker 1: to understanding comedy. And so that's what I did. I
22:02
Speaker 1: studied and then once I saw that, you know, the
22:05
Speaker 1: sign for me was that layoff when I was like, oh,
22:09
Speaker 1: everybody was crying, I was like, this is my time
22:11
Speaker 1: to get up and get the layoff. You got several package,
22:17
Speaker 1: you know, So that gave me a little cushion, you know.
22:20
Speaker 1: And then I had already started developing some contacts in
22:24
Speaker 1: the comedy world. So it was it wasn't an easy transition.
22:29
Speaker 1: But at least it wasn't like I know some people
22:31
Speaker 1: they said, well, I'm gonna do comedy for six months.
22:33
Speaker 1: Comedy is not a six month thing. You when you
22:36
Speaker 1: get in it, you gotta get in it, and it's
22:39
Speaker 1: gonna be for a lifetime. You know. It's really funny.
22:41
Speaker 1: Just just I've never spoken to a comedian with a
22:44
Speaker 1: with an engineering degree, and it's the same line that
22:46
Speaker 1: I have in math, and I'm hearing a person talked
22:49
Speaker 1: similar to me. Because it's a plan through the whole process.
22:53
Speaker 1: The plan I went out there I had. I would
22:55
Speaker 1: go into the clubs and give people like, uh, can
22:57
Speaker 1: you evaluate by comedy performance? And I was putting in
23:01
Speaker 1: the folder, Yo, get my sheet. They look at me, going,
23:03
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, saying, it's a it's a form.
23:06
Speaker 1: Just check off what you think of me in and
23:08
Speaker 1: you can mail it in later. And I'm gonna use
23:10
Speaker 1: this to get me bookings at other clubs. They wait, oh, okay, okay,
23:14
Speaker 1: We've never had anybody do this before. I said, yeah,
23:16
Speaker 1: I'm just this is how I've been trained for my
23:17
Speaker 1: BM You do a job, you give, evaluate evaluated by,
23:21
Speaker 1: and people will pay you based on your evaluation. And
23:24
Speaker 1: just hearing your logic. It's all in the same place.
23:27
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, here I see these layoffs. Here's an
23:30
Speaker 1: opportunity to let me take this severs pay. But you
23:32
Speaker 1: also know there's no guaranteed. But you also know that, hey,
23:35
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta work. It's a it's a long run,
23:38
Speaker 1: and that's where people start falling off. M hmm. Yeah.
23:43
Speaker 1: There's been so many comics that I know that I've
23:45
Speaker 1: tried to transition, Like, you know, I knew I needed
23:48
Speaker 1: to be someplace, either Los Angeles or New York if
23:52
Speaker 1: you really want to be in the business. I know
23:54
Speaker 1: some comics they but like, well, you know, I saved
23:56
Speaker 1: up enough money six months and I'm gonna make it.
23:59
Speaker 1: And it's like, dude, you're not gonna make it in
24:01
Speaker 1: six months. You know, it's just it, don't It doesn't
24:04
Speaker 1: work like that. So I tell anybody, no matter what
24:07
Speaker 1: type of transition you're trying to make, you gotta have
24:10
Speaker 1: a plan. You um, And there's nothing I think people
24:14
Speaker 1: feel like, well, you know, sometimes I don't have to
24:16
Speaker 1: have a security net. Nothing's wrong to me. Nothing's wrong
24:20
Speaker 1: with having a security net. I knew that if it
24:22
Speaker 1: didn't work. I could always do something else. I could
24:25
Speaker 1: teach after that, And that's another thing. And you have
24:27
Speaker 1: your plan. But also having like a little backup plan.
24:30
Speaker 1: And the backup plan doesn't mean that you're gonna fails.
24:33
Speaker 1: To me, it's just something in your subconscious that you
24:36
Speaker 1: know you'll be all right, you know, instead of having
24:39
Speaker 1: nothing at all, you know, you know, have a plan.
24:42
Speaker 1: This is a great thing about this, you know I'm
24:45
Speaker 1: talking about because I gotta I gotta make this. I
24:47
Speaker 1: made an announcement in your credits about hosting Essence music
24:52
Speaker 1: festivals called Estance Festival. Now and walking on the stage,
24:55
Speaker 1: you know it can be as a minute, seventy thousand
24:57
Speaker 1: people in front of you, okay, well, and then knowing
25:01
Speaker 1: where you started. You know, you knowing because when you
25:03
Speaker 1: when you start making these transition, telling people, you're telling jokes.
25:06
Speaker 1: They wait, girl, don't you have to a degree in engineering?
25:09
Speaker 1: The people are doubt. You know, your family members of
25:12
Speaker 1: question you. We are you gonna get paid? How are
25:15
Speaker 1: you gonna get paid? Well? Where's the regular check at? Now?
25:17
Speaker 1: You you're leaving something good here? You sure you sure?
25:20
Speaker 1: You sure? So in that transition, you have to start
25:23
Speaker 1: surrounding yourself with people who think like you and have
25:26
Speaker 1: your same passion, Otherwise you won't make it through the
25:30
Speaker 1: whole process and to go and they go from that
25:34
Speaker 1: to being on the stage walking out there. Talk talk
25:37
Speaker 1: about first of all getting the opportunity, to getting the
25:39
Speaker 1: call to do that, and then walking out on stage
25:41
Speaker 1: the first time at Essence Festival. Well, the thing is
25:46
Speaker 1: what people have to realize is number one, a lot
25:49
Speaker 1: of time, everybody's not gonna be happy for you. A
25:53
Speaker 1: lot of that doubt that they that they that they sincerely,
25:56
Speaker 1: they're they're trying to act like they're sincere and they're
25:59
Speaker 1: worrying and caring out you is their own fear is
26:03
Speaker 1: that they don't believe that you can do what you
26:05
Speaker 1: say you're out to do. Um So I tell people
26:08
Speaker 1: that you have to believe in yourself with nobody else believes,
26:11
Speaker 1: and you believe in yourself. You know. I love you
26:13
Speaker 1: because I love you because of who you represent. I
26:16
Speaker 1: love you because of the authenticity of what you do
26:18
Speaker 1: on television, and you stay true to who you are.
26:21
Speaker 1: Keep winning. Okay, please and thank you for calling my show.
26:24
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Rashan, take care, Okay, happy holiday, Happy holidays.
26:28
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Speaker 1: is one of the most popular Christian hip hop artists
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Speaker 1: fifteen Double warves, and one Billboard Music Award. Here's a
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28:20
Speaker 1: The Craiz. What's going on? What's going on? Okay? First
28:26
Speaker 1: of all, the Craig Houston, Texas. That's where you're born,
28:28
Speaker 1: young man. Okay, cool, That's where I'm from. Absolutely, That's
28:32
Speaker 1: why I'm from Fifth War, Texas. Brother, just gonna lockdowns
28:35
Speaker 1: of information about each other. Get our gps together here, Okay. Now,
28:39
Speaker 1: I was sir, yes, sir, right there, College Worth right
28:46
Speaker 1: off fifty nine. Brother, right there, Russell and Bain Street.
28:48
Speaker 1: That's where I was born. Right there. Now he is man,
28:52
Speaker 1: My folks from Live Oak off in third ward. There
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Speaker 1: you go, there you go. Come on, Now we're gonna get.
28:57
Speaker 1: We're gonna get. So we're gonna being so into you
29:00
Speaker 1: and I. We're gonna be friends for life after this interview.
29:03
Speaker 1: Now here's the beauty of our relationship. Okay. I was
29:06
Speaker 1: at the Super Super Bowl Gospel Celebration taping and I
29:12
Speaker 1: was sitting on the front row. Uh, because when you're big,
29:16
Speaker 1: that's where they put you on the front row and
29:17
Speaker 1: set you on the front room. And so and so
29:20
Speaker 1: this young man came out, you know, uh because I
29:23
Speaker 1: believe the mands were hosting. David twond Man was hosting
29:27
Speaker 1: that year, and they introduced this young man called look Crazy.
29:31
Speaker 1: I didn't even know his name. All I knew is
29:34
Speaker 1: he came out and he was rapping, and I was
29:37
Speaker 1: turning next to the person. I was saying, who is
29:40
Speaker 1: that dude? Because first of all, he looked good and
29:43
Speaker 1: he see here's the thing about his gifts, Because see,
29:48
Speaker 1: gospel is rooted in you know, the traditional look, you know, singing,
29:53
Speaker 1: you know, you know you you road gotta have that choir,
29:58
Speaker 1: gotta had a conductor. Here. He was out there on
30:01
Speaker 1: that stage by himself rapping and he I remember, I
30:04
Speaker 1: remember something he did. He told her about to raise
30:06
Speaker 1: their hands and everybody and this this this performance at
30:10
Speaker 1: Lakewood as Joel Osteen's church. Now that's that's a former
30:14
Speaker 1: home or the Houston Rockets. You know, you're talking about
30:17
Speaker 1: people up in that june and all of them raised
30:19
Speaker 1: their hands. I look around, who is this dude? And
30:23
Speaker 1: then but better than that, he's what he was saying
30:26
Speaker 1: said something to me. His beat says something to me.
30:30
Speaker 1: And I became a fan of your talents from that day.
30:34
Speaker 1: And you didn't even know that, young man. You didn't
30:36
Speaker 1: even know that you affected a person like me, ra
30:38
Speaker 1: Sean McDonald based on your skill set. I didn't know
30:41
Speaker 1: you from Houston at the time. All I know is
30:44
Speaker 1: that when you still on that stage and then you
30:45
Speaker 1: walked off that stage and walked down those aisles, you
30:47
Speaker 1: walk right down my aisle. I went, I wonder who
30:51
Speaker 1: managing him? Because brother, you got it. Man, tell us
30:57
Speaker 1: about that journey a little just just just a little
30:59
Speaker 1: bit of that journey. Because of the fact that when
31:02
Speaker 1: I was watching California Dreams Dreaming, it said that it
31:05
Speaker 1: seemed to say that you grew up in California. But
31:08
Speaker 1: then by bio, your bio says that you were born
31:10
Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. Can you help me out there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
31:15
Speaker 1: So my uh, you know, I got a military family,
31:19
Speaker 1: so of course we spend a lot of time in
31:21
Speaker 1: different places. I was, I was my family originates in Houston, Texas.
31:26
Speaker 1: So that's for most of them livem that's for you know,
31:28
Speaker 1: my mother's firm. That's where I was. I started out at,
31:32
Speaker 1: but were moved around. So I spent the time in
31:33
Speaker 1: San Diego in California, and I spent the time at
31:36
Speaker 1: Denver and in Dallas, right, So, but but Houston has
31:40
Speaker 1: always been, you know, kind of the origin the room.
31:45
Speaker 1: Ain't that wrong? And there's nothing wrong with having Houston
31:47
Speaker 1: as your origin, my friend, Yeah, what was washed that
31:54
Speaker 1: Reach Records your record copy Reach Records is actually a
31:59
Speaker 1: stat just um right outside of Dallas and and then
32:03
Speaker 1: Texas and uh, basically what it happened was a friend
32:06
Speaker 1: of mine and I, you know, we were at the
32:08
Speaker 1: University of North Texas UM and and that's kind of
32:12
Speaker 1: where I had a spiritual transformation and just kind of realized, man,
32:15
Speaker 1: I may need to use my gifts for you know,
32:18
Speaker 1: bigger purpose and um, and so from there we began
32:21
Speaker 1: to start putting out the music independently and uh, and
32:24
Speaker 1: it you know, Texas is almost like its own country.
32:27
Speaker 1: So just touring the state of Texas and and and
32:30
Speaker 1: traveling through our Texas had had so many people supporting
32:34
Speaker 1: the music and it just kind of spilled over from
32:36
Speaker 1: there and and into the to the rest of the world,
32:39
Speaker 1: and so you know, year after year, Uh, things just grew.
32:43
Speaker 1: You know, we started off independently. I remember taking my
32:45
Speaker 1: CD into Stories and selling them on consignment. And you
32:49
Speaker 1: don't know what consignment is, just when you convinced the
32:51
Speaker 1: story they need to buy some of your music. And
32:53
Speaker 1: I was sending my friends in the store to go
32:55
Speaker 1: buy the music that they bought, and they would buy
32:57
Speaker 1: some more from me. And so uh only have the
33:00
Speaker 1: trunk of my car. And we did that for years
33:02
Speaker 1: until things just kind of group beyond having to do
33:06
Speaker 1: it that way. Well know, look crazy, It's really a
33:08
Speaker 1: blessing to have this conversation with you because the fact
33:11
Speaker 1: that you affected me and it's such a positive way.
33:14
Speaker 1: And that's what I really love about gospel music and
33:17
Speaker 1: in your case, hip hop music and rap because of
33:21
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm old school. You know, I tupas
33:24
Speaker 1: my man. Okay, you know, I grew up with at
33:27
Speaker 1: the comedy club in Houston, hip Hop Comedy, Stop Back,
33:31
Speaker 1: and so my whole, my whole flavor is tied to
33:34
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Even though I'm an R and B guy,
33:37
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm an old Jay's guy, you know,
33:40
Speaker 1: Marvin Gay, I'm all that. And so when I so
33:42
Speaker 1: when I see you, I see I see a very
33:45
Speaker 1: gifted young man that that really is kind of like
33:48
Speaker 1: touching a person that that's in my age group, but
33:50
Speaker 1: also younger people too. Tell me to talk to us
33:53
Speaker 1: about the responsibility of what you're delivering with your music. Well, yeah,
33:59
Speaker 1: you know, I um, you know, I spent a lot
34:02
Speaker 1: of time with my grandmother, who's basically like the spiritual
34:06
Speaker 1: matriarch of the family, and so there's a little bit
34:09
Speaker 1: of an old soul and me as well that that
34:11
Speaker 1: helps me to connect to people, you know, outside of
34:14
Speaker 1: my you know, typical age range or or or you know, demographic.
34:18
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, you know, I was
34:20
Speaker 1: raised in the streets and I ran ran the streets
34:23
Speaker 1: as a as a kid, and so I was influenced
34:25
Speaker 1: by a lot of that type stuff. And so for me,
34:27
Speaker 1: I think about how do I take the wisdom that
34:30
Speaker 1: folks like my grandmother had instilled in me and uh
34:33
Speaker 1: and how to apply it to folks who grow up
34:35
Speaker 1: like me who you know, we're looking for godance and
34:37
Speaker 1: looking for you know, different um models because I didn't
34:41
Speaker 1: grow up having models in rowd models. By the time
34:43
Speaker 1: I was a grown man, you know, mart Luther King
34:46
Speaker 1: was gone and so you know, all we had was
34:49
Speaker 1: a lot of confused individuals who were doing the best
34:52
Speaker 1: that they could, but you know, they didn't know which
34:55
Speaker 1: way was up. So for me, the responsibility is to
34:57
Speaker 1: use my music and my gift as a tool to
34:59
Speaker 1: a to help people see their guy given potential and
35:02
Speaker 1: to understand that you know that they were created for
35:05
Speaker 1: a bigger purpose than what they may now. You really
35:08
Speaker 1: are are uniquely uh crafted individual and I and more
35:15
Speaker 1: so that I when it comes to entrepreneurship, because we're
35:18
Speaker 1: gonna talk about their your involvement is in there and
35:20
Speaker 1: some of the projects in Atlanta, I call you a
35:23
Speaker 1: social entrepreneur because of the fact that you go in
35:27
Speaker 1: and you're trying to change the community. You're trying to
35:29
Speaker 1: keep the community intact, but you're also trying to bring
35:32
Speaker 1: business and trying to upgrade because you know, once you
35:35
Speaker 1: increase the taxes, then gets to what. Schools get better,
35:38
Speaker 1: policing gets better, the community gets better. And that's what
35:41
Speaker 1: social entrepreneurs do. Tell us about the English Avenue project
35:46
Speaker 1: that you involved with in Atlanta, Yeah, so he was
35:50
Speaker 1: Avenue is uh historically being uh, you know, over the
35:54
Speaker 1: last decade or so, it's been a very tough area.
35:58
Speaker 1: You know, no as the heroine capital of the Southeast
36:02
Speaker 1: and um, a lot of traffickings, a lot of you know,
36:07
Speaker 1: just uh tough activity going on over there. Hadn't been
36:11
Speaker 1: a school there, uh in years since a matter of fact,
36:14
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety six. So there's more grocery stores. I
36:16
Speaker 1: mean there's not even there's there's no grocery stores. You know,
36:19
Speaker 1: it's just there's it's a food desert, it's a school desert,
36:22
Speaker 1: and UM, it's very unfortunate situation. And so a good
36:26
Speaker 1: friend of mine, Benjamin Wills, had a vision to uh
36:29
Speaker 1: to see some change in that community, and you know,
36:33
Speaker 1: I came alongside Benjamin Wills and um and we worked
36:38
Speaker 1: hard to put a school in that community, and so
36:40
Speaker 1: Peace Preparatory Academy is in this fourth year now, um,
36:43
Speaker 1: adding in grade every year. So it's the first school
36:45
Speaker 1: has been in the neighborhood uh since ninety six. I
36:48
Speaker 1: also took it upon myself to uh to you know,
36:52
Speaker 1: uh take ownership over some of the properties down there,
36:55
Speaker 1: because it's you know, as a black man, I wanted
36:57
Speaker 1: to make sure that the community was owned by somebody
36:59
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40:08
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40:11
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40:13
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40:16
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40:19
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40:28
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Speaker 1: new book Hard came out November nineteen. Uh, The Little
41:05
Speaker 1: Book of Big Lives, A Journey into into Inner Fitness. Please,
41:10
Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversation, Tina Lifford. Hi, son, it's
41:14
Speaker 1: so nice to be here. First time we talked on
41:17
Speaker 1: the phone and you was coming through Atlanta in the
41:20
Speaker 1: event here. I was not able to make it because
41:24
Speaker 1: I travel a lot and I try to get back
41:26
Speaker 1: in town and sometimes I'm kidding my life. But the
41:29
Speaker 1: beauty of it. I'm watching you now, I'm joined the
41:32
Speaker 1: relationship I'm creating with you because I feel your relationship
41:36
Speaker 1: driven person and reading your book, The Little Book of
41:39
Speaker 1: Big Lives, A Journey into Inner Fitness. Okay, let's let's
41:43
Speaker 1: start right there. Okay, UM, what is the Inner Fitness Project?
41:48
Speaker 1: So first, let me define interfitness. Inter Fitness is literally
41:53
Speaker 1: being fit on the inside, absolutely developing the mental, emotional,
41:57
Speaker 1: and spiritual skills and practices that can help us reduce stress,
42:02
Speaker 1: be strong on the inside, feel resilient, and more than anything,
42:07
Speaker 1: to begin to thrive instead of just merely survive in
42:12
Speaker 1: our lives. You know. Uh, my aim, my personal aim
42:17
Speaker 1: is to be fully alive when I die, you know. Um.
42:21
Speaker 1: And so the Inner Fitness Project recognized that you know,
42:26
Speaker 1: there's all this emphasis on physical fitness and literally no
42:33
Speaker 1: emphasis on inner fitness, and we really have to address
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Speaker 1: the fact that we have there is a self inside
42:42
Speaker 1: of us, that self has needs, and we must become
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Speaker 1: as familiar and practice in dealing with that self as
42:53
Speaker 1: we are the physical body. Because so when you say
42:57
Speaker 1: that is can I say right when I say, therapy
43:00
Speaker 1: is something especially within the in the community of color,
43:04
Speaker 1: therapy is something like a word that's like, oh, you
43:07
Speaker 1: have something really wrong with you, and and and so
43:10
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. Being able to to heal,
43:13
Speaker 1: to be able to grow, to develop the internal, the
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Speaker 1: mental structure, the emotional structure will guide you through your
43:19
Speaker 1: daily life, which sometimes is way more important than your
43:22
Speaker 1: your outside, which is your physical being. Absolutely well, your
43:25
Speaker 1: physical being can't help you resolve those hurts, dramas, traumas,
43:30
Speaker 1: upsets and disappointments that you carry. And we all have
43:35
Speaker 1: unresolved hurts, drama's, traumas, upsets and disappointments. It's not our fault.
43:41
Speaker 1: It's by nature of our nervous system. When we have
43:46
Speaker 1: experiences and they are not properly processed, those experiences hang
43:52
Speaker 1: on inside as an emotional reaction. Cool. Now, before we
43:59
Speaker 1: get in detail about the book, which I really enjoyed.
44:02
Speaker 1: Um there because you're sharing I guess, the emotional slices
44:08
Speaker 1: of your life, some of them very personal and something.
44:11
Speaker 1: So when you start writing a book like that, how
44:14
Speaker 1: do you make the decision that I can I'm gonna
44:16
Speaker 1: be honest here. You know, we're talking about your dad's
44:19
Speaker 1: relationship with your mom, with your mom, what is abusive
44:23
Speaker 1: at times? And talk about the story when you know
44:25
Speaker 1: when your dad got out of the car and you
44:28
Speaker 1: got locked the door and your mom drove home and
44:30
Speaker 1: your dad had to walk in later, you know, and
44:32
Speaker 1: that that that those type of personal experience you talk
44:35
Speaker 1: about when you when you know when you the little
44:37
Speaker 1: boy Jeffrey and your best friend, you know, he told
44:41
Speaker 1: you he loved you and you was a cloud nine
44:43
Speaker 1: and realized that was a joke, but that was those
44:46
Speaker 1: Those are those what you're saying is like, these are
44:48
Speaker 1: different moments and there are more moments. I don't want
44:51
Speaker 1: to reveal the entire book because I want you to
44:52
Speaker 1: buy the book, but those are these are some of
44:55
Speaker 1: the key moments that you're talking about in your past.
44:58
Speaker 1: You're inner fitness that you have to cre or admit
45:01
Speaker 1: has happened in your journey in order for you to
45:03
Speaker 1: move forward. That's exactly right. Talk to us about that. Okay,
45:06
Speaker 1: So we we all have experiences, you know, and you know,
45:12
Speaker 1: one experience can't be compared to the other if it
45:16
Speaker 1: left you feeling less than, not good enough or disconnected
45:20
Speaker 1: from yourself in any way. It is an experience that
45:24
Speaker 1: you can rewire your relationship. Yes, and until we rewire
45:32
Speaker 1: our relationship to those experiences, those experiences live inside and
45:38
Speaker 1: they actually dictate our behavior. You know, if in fact
45:43
Speaker 1: you had uh, you know, like Jeffrey in the book.
45:48
Speaker 1: You know, if in fact your first experience with love
45:53
Speaker 1: was as disappointing and um shameful as mine, then you
45:59
Speaker 1: can make decisions about love that aren't going to be
46:05
Speaker 1: supportive of what you really really want because you should
46:08
Speaker 1: have reflected your relationships moving forth. Yes, absolutely, the nile
46:11
Speaker 1: because you you, instead of admitting that you are hurt
46:15
Speaker 1: by that game that your best friend leaning behind you
46:19
Speaker 1: telling was a lie, you just went, oh yeah, but
46:23
Speaker 1: isn't that that the natural response is to is to
46:26
Speaker 1: shield yourself from pain. Well, that that maybe the reaction
46:32
Speaker 1: that's the surviving self reaction. But the I talked about
46:38
Speaker 1: the three selves in the book, the surviving self, the
46:41
Speaker 1: thriving self in the infinite self, and the surviving self.
46:48
Speaker 1: It's its job is to help us feel safe, but
46:54
Speaker 1: it's sometimes is helping us feel safe in ways that
46:59
Speaker 1: no longer actually support our life. You know, if, in fact,
47:04
Speaker 1: I made a decision as a you know, seven year
47:08
Speaker 1: old or or seventeen year old, and now I'm still
47:12
Speaker 1: living by that decision and I'm not free enough to
47:16
Speaker 1: to see that I've grown beyond that hurt, then I'm
47:22
Speaker 1: being held hostage by the past, right, And we don't
47:27
Speaker 1: want to be held hostage, and we don't have to
47:29
Speaker 1: be held hostage. I'm going to tell you that everyone
47:33
Speaker 1: listening has some secret, you know, some fear something that
47:39
Speaker 1: they feel that if if other people knew it, would
47:44
Speaker 1: you know, in somehow um uh deflate their reputation, it
47:49
Speaker 1: would uh make them seem less then, And so you
47:54
Speaker 1: don't reveal that, but you carry it around as a
47:57
Speaker 1: secret and you hope that people don't come anywhere close
48:01
Speaker 1: to uh that area of your life. And that's why
48:05
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with your book, because you revealed secrets.
48:08
Speaker 1: You revealed moments in your life that thought were very important.
48:12
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is that when I look
48:14
Speaker 1: back in my life, I can I loved your book
48:16
Speaker 1: because of the fact that I can clearly remember moments
48:19
Speaker 1: in my life. I can remember in the fifth grade
48:21
Speaker 1: with my my teacher stopped me from running around the school.
48:24
Speaker 1: So you can do better than this. Stop, You're not
48:26
Speaker 1: like every other student here stopped. I can remember when
48:29
Speaker 1: the little boy patted me down and took my money
48:32
Speaker 1: every day, every day, you know, and I couldn't. I
48:35
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out how could I get past this kid?
48:39
Speaker 1: And I know that had to reflect on me. So
48:41
Speaker 1: a reflection on me, and I can remember those those
48:43
Speaker 1: moments like that. It's such an early age. And also
48:46
Speaker 1: when I became up in middle school, I remember this
48:48
Speaker 1: young lady. My teacher asked me to read, and because
48:52
Speaker 1: I was a very good reader, and this this young
48:54
Speaker 1: lady said, why is he reading all the time? I
48:57
Speaker 1: want to read? And she couldn't read. But but that's
49:00
Speaker 1: that caused me to to change hot smoke. Yes, it
49:07
Speaker 1: caused you to um uh dim your light. Yes, it
49:13
Speaker 1: caused you wanted to self conscious speaking yes, and and
49:19
Speaker 1: so so when I when I'm reading your book, I'm going, Wow,
49:22
Speaker 1: she's hitting so many steps on a person to me,
49:25
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I'm a person who people deemed successful.
49:28
Speaker 1: People come to me for advice all the time. I
49:30
Speaker 1: motivate people. But then we have all these little layers
49:33
Speaker 1: in our lives that if we don't talk about them,
49:36
Speaker 1: if we don't they admit that they happen, then they
49:39
Speaker 1: just stay there and they contain a whole dark side
49:42
Speaker 1: of your life. That's what I took from your book.
49:45
Speaker 1: And I'm and I am recommending people by This book
49:48
Speaker 1: is by Tina Lifford. Uh The Little Book of Big Lives,
49:51
Speaker 1: A Journey into Inner fitness. Because I'm healing because of
49:55
Speaker 1: your book, because of the fact that I tell these stories,
49:58
Speaker 1: but they hear you articulate them in this book. Lets
50:02
Speaker 1: me know I need to tell speak of them more. Yes, absolutely,
50:05
Speaker 1: you know. One of the one of the things that
50:07
Speaker 1: I love in the book. Um, there's a couple of
50:10
Speaker 1: things that um, I love about the book. Number one
50:15
Speaker 1: is I wrote it because I wanted people to be
50:20
Speaker 1: able to get to their better life faster. I used
50:25
Speaker 1: to pray the prayer God helped me to go through
50:28
Speaker 1: doors first so that I can turn around and show
50:30
Speaker 1: others how to quicker with greater grace and ease. And
50:33
Speaker 1: so this book, you know, in fourteen simple stories, really
50:39
Speaker 1: delivers rather profound concepts and then at the end of
50:44
Speaker 1: each chapter there are actionable one to three things that
50:49
Speaker 1: you can do. And that was my frustration is that,
50:53
Speaker 1: you know, with the motivation and going to church, and
50:56
Speaker 1: you know, those people on the stage were shining, but
51:00
Speaker 1: didn't know what I needed to do inside of my
51:03
Speaker 1: own brain. You know, how did I need to, uh think,
51:08
Speaker 1: what did I need to do inside of myself so
51:11
Speaker 1: that I could take ownership of the concepts that they
51:15
Speaker 1: were talking Or you're one of the great story you
51:17
Speaker 1: shares in the book about singing when your mom said
51:20
Speaker 1: you could sing, you I can't sing, and you share
51:23
Speaker 1: this story where you went into complete stage fight and
51:27
Speaker 1: it just blocked out your ability to sing, and it
51:30
Speaker 1: later played itself out in the future auditions and you
51:33
Speaker 1: had to deal with that. So so basically what you're
51:36
Speaker 1: saying in your book is that you can't run from it,
51:39
Speaker 1: that it eventually gonna ugly head somewhere, absolutely, and it
51:44
Speaker 1: rears its head. Uh. Sometimes as addiction it rears its head. Sometimes,
51:50
Speaker 1: as you know, depression, it rears its head and in
51:53
Speaker 1: a multitude of ways, and you can't outrun it. My
51:58
Speaker 1: father thought he could outrun it. We can't outrun the past.
52:03
Speaker 1: We have to rewire it. Being looked at by others
52:08
Speaker 1: will not impact us in a negative way because we
52:12
Speaker 1: know who we are. You know, I I feel you're
52:16
Speaker 1: a soul mate. I'll just let you know that because
52:18
Speaker 1: of the fact that you do a lot of things.
52:20
Speaker 1: One of the things I really loved about when reading
52:22
Speaker 1: your book you you have a downloadable free tool call
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Speaker 1: a s A l Ascending Scale to an Awesome Life.
52:30
Speaker 1: You go to Tina the Foot dot com and download
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Speaker 1: a free tool a s A l Ascending Scale to
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52:41
Speaker 1: I want to put that in my newsletter. Yeah. Well,
52:43
Speaker 1: you know, one of the most important things we can
52:46
Speaker 1: do is to begin to understand the power of the
52:50
Speaker 1: thriving self. And what the thriving self gives us is
52:54
Speaker 1: a sense of possibility. And we need to build the
52:59
Speaker 1: muscle of being able to no matter what our situation is,
53:04
Speaker 1: to get to a legitimate and resonating sense of possibility.
53:09
Speaker 1: If you have a sense of possibility, you can move
53:12
Speaker 1: through anything. And it's really important for people to know that.
53:16
Speaker 1: One of the biggest lies in this book is that
53:19
Speaker 1: who you are as you are is all that you are.
53:22
Speaker 1: That is not it. You are so much more. But
53:26
Speaker 1: you can't access all that you are if you are running.
53:30
Speaker 1: You can't access all that you are if you don't
53:34
Speaker 1: accept that there is more in you and then invest
53:37
Speaker 1: time in order to you know, in order to express
53:42
Speaker 1: it and build it. And so those fourteen little stories stories, yeah,
53:49
Speaker 1: they are. They are big stories because that changed the change.
53:51
Speaker 1: They really are life changing because it made me open
53:54
Speaker 1: up and realized, I gotta tell my story. I gotta
53:56
Speaker 1: be honest about myself more, especially about my past. And um,
54:00
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54:02
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Speaker 1: But the amazing thing about you're changing lives with this book.
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