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CJ McCollum, Jody Watley, Jahi Winston & Todd "TJ" Johnson · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to money making Conversations. I'm excited I got my
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  Speaker 1: man CJ back on the show. I'm your host, rou
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions
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  Speaker 1: of success. For some, it's a sizable paycheck. Might is
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  Speaker 1: helping people wake up and inspiring them to accomplish their
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  Speaker 1: goals and live their very best life. These are my
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  Speaker 1: passions and that's what I'm going to do for you.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to stop tripping over small challenges and
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  Speaker 1: prepare to rise above the bigger obstacles that life will
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  Speaker 1: present to you and live your dream. My next guest
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  Speaker 1: is truly an NBA star. His name is c J McCullum.
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  Speaker 1: After his introduction to wine in the early twenties by
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  Speaker 1: his fiancee, CJ moved to Oregon and joined the Portland
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  Speaker 1: Trailbladers tent pick in the draft. Finding themself just short
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  Speaker 1: of drive away from one of the top wine regions
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  Speaker 1: in the country, he launched his own brand, McCullen Heritage
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  Speaker 1: Nay One. It's all about legacy, bringing CJ's passion to
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  Speaker 1: life while honoring his roots in the process. It just
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  Speaker 1: so happened that the perfect word to describe that His
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  Speaker 1: heritage is also the name of the street he grew
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  Speaker 1: up on, A can't know how you combined with his
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  Speaker 1: birth year and the family name McCullen. Heritage Nati One
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  Speaker 1: truly embodies c J and all that he stands for.
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  Speaker 1: He's on the shoulder discussed he's sold out. I hear
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  Speaker 1: you sold out. It's sold out, Heritage Naty One Wine Collection,
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  Speaker 1: life doing it after the NBA bubble in Orlando, and
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  Speaker 1: his educational charity. Please welcome back to money making Conversations,
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  Speaker 1: my man, c J. McCullum. How you doing, c J.
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  Speaker 1: I'm great man. Thanks for a great introduction and appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you having me on. Well. First of all, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: you know I I you sold dot though talk talks
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  Speaker 1: about that whole plan because because I've been following you now,
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  Speaker 1: c J. C You're you're a good planner. You went
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  Speaker 1: down there and then you started sharing your wine with
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  Speaker 1: everybody in the bubble with that. That was a strategy, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was definitely a part of the strategy. Obviously, the
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  Speaker 1: situation shifted from when I first um began working on
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  Speaker 1: my wine project three years ago. UM I was planning
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  Speaker 1: on releasing year before the next season. Usually our season
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  Speaker 1: starts in September, and obviously that kind of change with
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  Speaker 1: the coronavirus situation didn't happen to potentially play in the bubble.
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  Speaker 1: So I had the one that I was prepared to
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  Speaker 1: kind of distribute to Forensics family and kind of switched
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  Speaker 1: that over and distributed to a bunch of players and
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  Speaker 1: staff and front office members in the NBA to just
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  Speaker 1: kind of get an idea of what they thought about it.
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  Speaker 1: I was it from the marketing standpoint that was helpful
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  Speaker 1: as well, but the plan was more so just to
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  Speaker 1: get feedback on what they thought about the wine, like
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the taste and um, just to kind
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  Speaker 1: of try to introduce it to them because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people weren't familiar with it because it was my
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  Speaker 1: first project in the wine world. Now he hears me,
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  Speaker 1: Now wine is grapes, correct, Yes, okay, cool? Now I
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  Speaker 1: would I'm just a country bore. I'm born and raised
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  Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. Okay, everything rose well in the South
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  Speaker 1: Wales warm now Portland, Oregon, that's wine country. Yeah, you'd
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  Speaker 1: be surprised that we're not. I am surprised because I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking like this because I would think that grapes
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  Speaker 1: need to be warm to survive, and I know you
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  Speaker 1: have severe windows up there. Correct, No, it's actually not
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  Speaker 1: that bad here. Besides the rain, which can play a
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  Speaker 1: factor in the taste of of the wine going forward,
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  Speaker 1: our winners aren't bad. It's only snowed probably three times
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  Speaker 1: in my seven years out here in the in the wintertime,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's pretty pretty balanced. And I think what helps
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  Speaker 1: our grapes is the climate. The climate we get from
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  Speaker 1: so many, so many different landscapes. We have mountain ranges,
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  Speaker 1: we have the Halo Mounts, we have Dundee, we have
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  Speaker 1: so many different parts of of Oregon that are going
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  Speaker 1: through the fermentation process that go through the process of
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  Speaker 1: actually making a wine that you get so many different tastes.
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  Speaker 1: But I think historically, based on the research I've done
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  Speaker 1: and what I've seen in comparison to you look at
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  Speaker 1: a NAPA which is in California, that they have cooler
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  Speaker 1: climate at night. They kind of go through hot hot,
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  Speaker 1: some is uh not too cold in the winter. We're
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  Speaker 1: similar in terms of hot summers, but it's not too
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  Speaker 1: cold in the winter and during harvards, which is around
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  Speaker 1: you know, September, to October. We have ideal weather for grapes,
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of rain until the end of October.
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  Speaker 1: Um it's it's hot, but it's cool at nine so
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  Speaker 1: we can get up to during the day and they
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  Speaker 1: can get down as low as fifty at night. So
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  Speaker 1: you have that balance of amult to the climates. But
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  Speaker 1: then it just comes down to luck, you know, having
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  Speaker 1: the right elevation, being being facing uh southeastern and Southwestern
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  Speaker 1: that also plays a huge role. But I had no
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  Speaker 1: idea until I moved out here, So I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just fortunate enough to have moved out here and
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  Speaker 1: been exposed to it firsthand to where it's it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of shifted my perspective of it. And then talking to
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of experts and people in the business, they've
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  Speaker 1: come to the same conclusion that Oregan is really known
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  Speaker 1: for the piano in the war, and they have some
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  Speaker 1: great shard in their grapes as well. Now you're talking
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  Speaker 1: like an expert. I love your toneticulate anyway, but you
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  Speaker 1: really you really m is some No. We talked earlier
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  Speaker 1: about the grape, you know, and we talked about the
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  Speaker 1: wine being released in September, with it being sold at
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  Speaker 1: where are you right now? Confidently when confidence about your product,
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  Speaker 1: because I I hear confidence in your tone. I hear
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  Speaker 1: I hear a high level of professionalism. Not saying that
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  Speaker 1: you don't talk, but you know when once you taste
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of success, like what you did with
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  Speaker 1: more MORETT on that basketball court. Remember remember, remember you
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  Speaker 1: know how you did and you know when you came
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  Speaker 1: out the court you had a different attitude about how
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  Speaker 1: you treating them about there. See, I'm sitting at this
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  Speaker 1: an attitude with you now, t J, now that you're
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  Speaker 1: sold I talked to us about that, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if we're being honest here, I created a good product.
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  Speaker 1: I had a lot of highly successful people around me
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  Speaker 1: to kind of mold me and help me go through
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  Speaker 1: this process too, where I had a great understanding of
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  Speaker 1: what was going to happen. When you hire the right people, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to fail. I know what I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And I hired a bunch of experts who whose job
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  Speaker 1: is to put me in a position to succeed. And
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  Speaker 1: I think starting with the winemaker, trying with the partnership
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  Speaker 1: with the winery I chose and NATO sign we knew
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be a successfu We just weren't sure,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the reception that we would get. We're going
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  Speaker 1: shure it would sell out in forty five minutes. But
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  Speaker 1: I knew that people would be attracted to it. We're
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  Speaker 1: not talking about correct fifty dollars a bottle, and we
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  Speaker 1: did a We did a really good job of marketing.
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  Speaker 1: And I think from a brand, brand name standpoint, uh,
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  Speaker 1: people know that I enjoy wine, they know that Oregon
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  Speaker 1: Pinos specifically is historically been good. And I think the
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  Speaker 1: confidence just comes from the work I put a lot
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  Speaker 1: of work in on trying to learn. I'm not an
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  Speaker 1: expert by any means, but I have learned a lot
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  Speaker 1: in my in my nine years being involved in the
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  Speaker 1: wine industry and just kind of learning self taught and
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  Speaker 1: then speaking to experts about the importance of wine. The
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  Speaker 1: process of wine will go through the climates you need,
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  Speaker 1: and and so on and so forth. I just felt
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  Speaker 1: confident that, um, it would be a good wine because
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  Speaker 1: I tasted it. I had some psalms tasted, I had
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  Speaker 1: people who are considered wine snobs tasted and give me
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  Speaker 1: really positive feedback to where I'm comfortable with speaking on
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  Speaker 1: it because I literally went through the entire process of
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  Speaker 1: making wine with the album experts so that I feel
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  Speaker 1: confident about it. So you went from just a just
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  Speaker 1: a conno swort a person who enjoorge wine to doing
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  Speaker 1: your homework and now each step now is like getting
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  Speaker 1: you know, getting another year notching your degree plan of
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  Speaker 1: being more and more of an expert and achieve the
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  Speaker 1: next level of success. Now you said, you said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: forty five minutes c J. So okay, tell me this.
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  Speaker 1: How did how was the release notifa? What it was?
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  Speaker 1: Was it note notification on your social media? How did
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  Speaker 1: that work? Because you said, you guys did a really
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  Speaker 1: good job of marketing this, and so I'm sure you're
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  Speaker 1: planning the next series and you want to do a
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  Speaker 1: really good job again. So what was the what was
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  Speaker 1: the good of people to hear how you release a
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  Speaker 1: new brand, because like they were a very smart strategy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in the bubble when I started reading about
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  Speaker 1: the players, that was a good strategy because I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: someone post posted it about it and that really helped
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  Speaker 1: to raise the consciousness to people who could be potential customers.
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  Speaker 1: How did you release it so everybody would know his
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  Speaker 1: own not go by. Yeah, so we created brand awareness.
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  Speaker 1: Almost a year ago. I started to notify people that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's a project in the works. UM end
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  Speaker 1: up doing a press release probably seven six or seven
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  Speaker 1: months ago to kind of notify people like, hey, what
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  Speaker 1: about So we started with the press release to kind
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  Speaker 1: of create that awareness and strategic branding. UM. Then obviously
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  Speaker 1: I begain posting, hired a marketing team, social media team
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  Speaker 1: that's that's you know, spearheaded by Ashley comes from Extenta,
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna tremendous job, very very bright, a very bright
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  Speaker 1: individual who's kind of helped, you know, walk me through
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  Speaker 1: this process and we both learned a lot them to
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  Speaker 1: fly to doing doing interviews, things of that nature, to
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  Speaker 1: kind of talk about it, and just the more so
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  Speaker 1: the biggest thing is just educational. You educate yourself, you
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  Speaker 1: educate the masses act you're going through the process, and
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  Speaker 1: you kind of draw them in. So we drew them in,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, explain to them what the
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  Speaker 1: process was like, the story behind wine, while I got
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  Speaker 1: into wine, the designing process of the bottle, and and
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  Speaker 1: then we created a mailing list. The mailing lists kind
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  Speaker 1: of went out sporadically with with videos, with with images,
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  Speaker 1: created a website and basically allowed people to subscribe and
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  Speaker 1: sign up, and the first day I think we had
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  Speaker 1: seven people sign up and subscribe basically say that they
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  Speaker 1: would like to purchase the wine, and that kind of
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  Speaker 1: allowed it to evolve. And this is two months before
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  Speaker 1: I end up going to the bubble too, or three
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  Speaker 1: months before I end up like giving out wine to
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  Speaker 1: about nine d NBA players, But I went through that
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  Speaker 1: process first and basically let every right now that head.
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  Speaker 1: You can only purchase the wine on this website. It's
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  Speaker 1: only available online, and the rest is as they say,
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  Speaker 1: the rest is history, basically shot updates. I did a
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  Speaker 1: little pre sale where allowed some friends and family to
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  Speaker 1: purchase the day before, and we basically announced that the
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  Speaker 1: wine would go on sale on the last Tuesday at
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  Speaker 1: nine am Pacific time, and it was sold out by
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean McDonald love. I'm talking to c. J. McCullum.
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  Speaker 1: His wine sold like he told you forty five minutes
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  Speaker 1: nine am, which is noontime East Coast time, but color
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  Speaker 1: heritage and any one sold out fifty dollars a bottle
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  Speaker 1: is a pino, right. Yeah, Because my wife, she's a
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  Speaker 1: huge wine drinker. So I was I was bragging by
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  Speaker 1: it out of interview you and your wine was coming out.
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  Speaker 1: So she was asking me where where CJ wining that
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  Speaker 1: you know? I say, hey, so so as you're looking
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  Speaker 1: at to be crazy right now, so let's let's find
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  Speaker 1: out when the next batch come come out and maybe
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  Speaker 1: I can get into that pre sale and put in
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  Speaker 1: I get in the pre sale coupon, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: I pay. I don't ask for anything free. CJ. That's
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  Speaker 1: about me and that's why our money making conversations about
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  Speaker 1: making money. When is the next run so we can, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure to be you'll you'll make even
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  Speaker 1: more a bigger batch to go out there. But wine
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  Speaker 1: is seasonal? Or how does that work? Educate us? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So basically I went through a three to five year
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  Speaker 1: plan when I bought the grapes in two thousand seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: so I brought the grapes and two thousand and seventeen
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  Speaker 1: I knew that I wasn't going to put off the
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  Speaker 1: wine until because obviously from a wine standpoint, I had
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  Speaker 1: to go through harvest. So those are those grapes were
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  Speaker 1: planted in two thousand eighteen, and it goes to ten
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  Speaker 1: to twelve months in the bottle of the paying Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know how you age it. I aged my ten
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  Speaker 1: months in French oak baros, and then we we go
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  Speaker 1: to go to the fermentation process and then we rack
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  Speaker 1: them and put them in bottles, and that's basically a
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  Speaker 1: a year process. They were bottling in two thousand nineteen
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  Speaker 1: and kind of let them sit on the shelves and
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  Speaker 1: rotate them and then do what you need to do
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  Speaker 1: depending on the process you take. And I knew I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't selling until so in two thousand seventeen I brought
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  Speaker 1: I bought the grades for eighteen, and two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: eighteen I brought I bought the grades for nineteen. So
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  Speaker 1: my nineteen version of what I just sold will go
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  Speaker 1: until probably a year from now. I have to checked
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  Speaker 1: then and figure out how we want to market it.
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  Speaker 1: But we've already bottled the nineteen version of I sold
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  Speaker 1: last week, and it's it's still not ready. That's still young,
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  Speaker 1: still premature, but we'll figure out our release date and
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  Speaker 1: kind of go from there. But historically I've done things
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  Speaker 1: in September, so I might just wait a full year
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  Speaker 1: and I release it in September, and the greedy brother
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  Speaker 1: don't get greedy. Now we all know about these fires
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  Speaker 1: that are happened in the Oregon. Uh tell me if
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  Speaker 1: it's making any impact or will they make any impact
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  Speaker 1: on the wine industry up there? Yeah? I mean, first
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  Speaker 1: and form most my prayers go out to all the
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  Speaker 1: families and people that were affected by the fires. You know,
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  Speaker 1: living here in Oregon and being close to the fires,
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  Speaker 1: it it really hits home. And I told my fiance
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  Speaker 1: they other day. I think the biggest thing wrong with
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  Speaker 1: our society is that unless things directly impact or involved you,
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  Speaker 1: you tend to not pay attention. And until you get
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  Speaker 1: the email saying you need to evacuate, you don't understand
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  Speaker 1: the severity of a fire. And once we got the
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  Speaker 1: email saying, you know, kind of packed your house up
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  Speaker 1: and get ready, that's when you begin to panic and
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  Speaker 1: feel so sorry for so many people out there that
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  Speaker 1: either a have nowhere to go be, don't have the
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  Speaker 1: means or see, or it's too late. And I think
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  Speaker 1: over a half a million people had to evacuate homes
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  Speaker 1: so burned out. People have lost priceless valuables, you know, pictures, memories,
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  Speaker 1: things that you can't replace are going along with your home.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's very, very unfortunate. We were forced to
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  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, pack up our home and prepare
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  Speaker 1: to leave. But luckily we didn't have to end up leaving.
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  Speaker 1: But the the effects of the small dog, the smoke,
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  Speaker 1: the pollution that's caused the fires is definitely probably going
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  Speaker 1: to affect the grapes space on what I've heard from
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  Speaker 1: being on the venus these last couple of weeks. They
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  Speaker 1: won't know until until they go through harvest, which is delayed,
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  Speaker 1: like most wires, delayed harvest because of the fires. Didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to have people out there picking, uh and what
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  Speaker 1: was considered um they went from very very poor air
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  Speaker 1: pollution to toxic air pollution hazards to the point point
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  Speaker 1: that where no one could really be outside. So they
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  Speaker 1: say they won't know until until the harvest finishes and
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  Speaker 1: they get to kind of check out the grapes in
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  Speaker 1: the next phase. But hopefully too many people weren't impacted
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  Speaker 1: by that in the in the wine where I know
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other people were, and my prayers go
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  Speaker 1: out to them. That's right, that I might have a
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  Speaker 1: little fun with you because you know, watching and doing
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  Speaker 1: the bubble uh playing and um, you know one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite players anyway, just just so astute and uh
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  Speaker 1: to see you. Um have I seen that from you
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  Speaker 1: in the court before being Edi Moore should know being
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  Speaker 1: that um bostress um about what you was accomplishing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on on the court or if I missed it because
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  Speaker 1: you are in Portland, I don't get to see you
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  Speaker 1: all the time. I think sometimes you've got to let
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  Speaker 1: people know what time doing. Come on, come on, come on.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very very confident for myself, but I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a time and a place for everything, and sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: have to let people know. And I think I've I've
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  Speaker 1: always been like that. People out here in Oregon and
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  Speaker 1: people that really watch us, I have seen that before.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: But I think when it's different when it's on the
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: national stage and it's in the playoffs. But I've done
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: those same things and said those same words in a
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: in a pickup game and practice, you know what I mean.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: That's just something man, because that boy's talent. You superstar,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: You're You're a bad boy. You're a bad boy. Man.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: You had them stumbling, yeah, them reaching, yeah you you
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: just man, I was, I was, I was just laughing
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: so hard. Man. I called Stevens said, man, did you
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: see my boy? Did you see him? Did you see
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: him clowning tonight? And he started laughing, said yeah, you
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: said you a bad boy? I know, Hey, I ain't
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: saying I know you're a bad boy. And so so
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: what feedback do you just getting social media from all that?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: C J. I just thought it was funny, man, And personally,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I like, respectful, that's true. He's he's real. But no,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's people just give you credit what
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: credit is due. I think that's that's that's what you
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: have to do in this society. You tipt your hat,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you know, when you lose, and you tip your hat
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: when you win and salute the next person, understanding that
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: um in life and things are gonna always go your way.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: But you know, I had I had some some goodly
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: good games, and I had some games where I wish
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I would have played better. But all in all, I
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: was I was the best version of myself every night.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And I can live with that. And I think the
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: rest of the world social media, They've seen me play,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: They've seen me rise to me a big moments. So
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: some people probably were surprised, But people that know me
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: and know the game, uh, they know what I'm capable of.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, it wasn't. I wouldn't. I wasn't
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: surprised at what you did. It was a surprise of you.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: You know, the you know, the personality of shift. You know,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you know in your chest, you know, hit in your chest.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: You know that. That was the part I hadn't seen before.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: You've been clouding since you came in the league as
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: a rookie. You've been stepping up that game. You know,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you and Uh Damian the two of the underserved I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: think under recognized backcourt duos and Uh and the NBA
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: in the last ten years, you do y'all some bad boys. Now,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you went into the bubble the pandemic was going on,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and you came out of the bubble the pandemic was
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: going on. What was the bubble like? What was that
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: life in that bubble for? For for just the lifestyle,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: just being able to socialize, being able to get information?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: What was that all about? The testing? Can you walk
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: us through those steps c J. Yeah, it was unique. Honestly,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I unlike anything I've ever experienced before. Do the circumstances
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: what we're going through obviously in the world, and when
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: we're still going through today, from an injustice standpoint to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: two blacks and minorities to seeing the COVID, the situation
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: with COVID, how many lights were taken away or affected,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: and how we had to kind of take extra precaution.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: It was. It was really a special, special time because
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing we wanted to accomplish was
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: obviously continue to spread awareness to some of the things
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: got going on in America, have initiagies in place, have
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: things that we can kind of touch on and bring
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: light to while being able to play the game we love,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and get people in the state because there's a lot
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of stuff going on on a day to day basis
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: to where it affects your psyche, your mentality, and we
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: wanted to get people in the state to be able
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to watch entertainment. And I think we were able to
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: accomplish all those things, but the day to day life
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: was crazy then. Like when you first land, for one,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you started testing like two weeks before you get there
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: every other day and then when you get you guys
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: had a face chance a quick test, right, yeah, I
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: think it was rapid where the results would come the
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: next day, I think for five hours or the next day.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: So we did testing upon arrival, and then you quarantine
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in your room for forty eight hours so you can't
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: leave your room, and they bring you food and drop
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: it off at the door. So you go through that process,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and then once you get i think two or three
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: consecutive negative tests, you're able to leave your room, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you can't leave the hotel. So you're basically stuck there
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: in three different hotel or hubs with six teams, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you do daily testing based on time slots. Every day.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You do the nasal test as well as the oral swab,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and you go through that process and it's just it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: almost like a summer camp or like an AU tournament
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: because there's just a bunch of teams, a bunch of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: guys who you compete against. But it was just it
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: was just a really really unique situation to where it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: it's unlike anything I've ever been through, and it's something
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: that I will remember forever. But I'm glad I was
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: able to experience it. I think that we made the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: best of the situation. Obviously there's this four teams still
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: left competing, and I think that one of the best
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: parts about it they eventually began to let people found
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: numbers there because it can get very lonely out there, right, um,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: just kind of being away from your kids, a significant other,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: all those things you're accustomed to it it can change
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: you and kind of affect your mentality. Now, let's talk
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: about the opening day. You know, when you guys, um
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: all um, I wanted to say student solidarity, h are
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I want? I won't use the word protests, want to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: recognize that Black lives matter, do matter? What was it?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: What were your emotions? And because I'm not there, all
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I can do is realized that I was proud of
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the unity. I was proud, and I know there was
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You know, when you when you do it, when you
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: when you're doing what you're doing, you're not worried about
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: your wine sales, You're not worried about endorsements, you're not
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: worried about you You're you're committed to making a change
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: in your voice being heard. Who was running through your
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: mind personally when all that was going on, and then
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the Milwaukee when they
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: made that decision to walk out. What was running too
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: your mind? Then? Yeah, I mean you hit the meal
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: when they had the biggest thing for me. And then
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: most of the guys was just right and this wrong,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and what we're seeing in America and beyond right now
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: is just not right. It's it's wrong and we have
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: to stand for something. I think the fact that the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: NBA backed us, the league as a whole, our teams
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: backed us and stick with us, understanding that there's just
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: so many things that need to be corrected and changed,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and we put that to the forefront. I think that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: was the goal and objective. So I felt proud to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: be a part of that and proud to see it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I think when the Milwaukee Bucks decided not to play,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I think it's sparked another conversation. Um. I think they
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: were the spearheaded leaders and us kind of having to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: sit down and collect ourselves. And historically, when the NBA
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: does something, the rest of the world follows. We were
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the first professional sports league to shut down during COVID,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and then the rest of the world and in sports
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: teams began shutting down. We were the first UH league
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to have players protests and not playing the game, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: then shortly after that m THELB and they would not
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: be playing UH. Every other sport basically followed in line
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the Wimbledon tennis. All those players that would both participated
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: on the on the on the large stage, they well,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I think soccer exactly exactly, And that sparked another conversation
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: as to why so many things in America are happening
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: to to black and brown people and why these injustices
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: are are just intolerable and not fair. And I think
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I was just proud to be a part of it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I think the conversation that that it allowed to happen,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to dialogue get created was positive and has pointed the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: right light on so many lives that have been affected
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: in this in this way. Well, you know, it was
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: really interesting that because all I can do is, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: sometimes you get so far. All you can do is
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: pray for change, pray that people will see the light.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And then you see, you see a part of this
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: country just don't care, man, just really don't care. This
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: is gonna move forward and acting like this ain't even happening.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: And then uh, and then paying a story like we're
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the villains, like like like like our history means nothing
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and it won't tell our history. And when I see you,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you might use a generation of change to me. When
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I look at you, c J, and I I'm really
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: proud of your brother, and and I say that because
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of the fact that that's a lot of pressure, man,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: for a young man like you to to make a
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: decision to do what you're doing. And there's a lot
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: of you doing it. Not just you, but a lot
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: of you guys are making these decisions. And I'm telling you,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: when when the Major League Baseball stepped away, I was stunned.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I was absolutely stunned, c J. When MLS, MLS, uh
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: mad Leave Soccer stepped away, I was absolutely stunned. Um,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: because these are these are leagues are not predominant African
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: American leagues. And and I know you said, uh, you know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: people tend to follow the lead of the NBA. Were
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: you caught off god by that quickly the other leads,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the other sporting leads reacted or what were your thoughts?
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I was surprised at how quickly they all reacted and
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: stood with us, especially some of those other leagues that
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: are majority uh white, predominantly white leagues. I was very surprised,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: but I was happy to see it. It's the change
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: we need to see. And I think a lot of
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: times when when minorities are complaining about issues that are
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: happening to minorities, people tend to not listen. But when
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the majority is speaking on behalf as well as with us,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's when the most change can occur. And
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's what we're starting to see throughout the world.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: The old presses are starting to speak on behalf of
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world, and I think that's what
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you need in order to have changed. You need people
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that are a part of the problem but also not
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: affected by the problem to speak up for us. You're
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: absolutely telling the truth. C J. I want to thank
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you for coming on the show again. Man. You know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I can't help you sell anymore your wine
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: because you know, you did such an amazing marketing job
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and you're such a badass basketball player on the NBA court,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you know, and you leading this. But more importantly, just
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: just just Rushan McDonald. I'm an older member over this
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: of this, of this change, and talking to a younger
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: man who has generations. You can affect generation. You are
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: affecting generations, man, and as an entrepreneur, as your your nonprofit,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: as an athlete who who does more than just dribble
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the damn ball. Go change, brother, Please don't change the thing. Yes,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: sir man, That's just one thing I can assure you,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: is that I remember where I come from and what
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I come from. The the biggest thing you can do
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: as a as a young black man in America, it's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the sick ground ways to affect the masses. And he'll
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: pull somebody up that comes from a situation just like you. Cool.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you. He's on the show to promote his wine.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Heridge nine Heritage NATed one wine collection is sold out,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: y'all fifty dollars a bottle. You got another set coming
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: out next year, so be ready one September. I'll be
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: ready because I'm getting in front of the line. He's
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: already told me he's gonna take care of me, and
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy the winej We're talking to, brother, Tell
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: your family high man. Brother, I'd love you, and don't
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you change. Bye. I got you, absolutely appreciate you. Thank you, brother.
• 27:30
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  Speaker 1: M dot org Slash Radio. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I'm your host Sean McDonald my guest Jody Watley. Miss
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Jody Watley is a Grammy winning trends sending pioneering music
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: video fashion and style. Jody is listening on Billboards top
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: sixty Hot one female artists of all time. She's top
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: twenty five dance artists of all time. She became the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: first artist to release a million selling video, Dance to Fitness,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: which has not been achieved by black woman all musician.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: She was the first woman of color to play Rizzo
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: on Broadway and to hit Musical Greece. She's an entrepreneur.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: She's producing and releasing her own music. She's on the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: show to talk about being an artist during the pandemic
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: time and coping with the works complished. Miss Jordie Watty
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: is finding her sanctuary. That's what I found this on
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the I was just doing our research and find it
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Miss Jodie Walley finding her sanctuary in the kitchen. Amiss,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: all these uncertain pandemic times, she out there, She out
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: there clicking dishes and pots and payers and over a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: hot stove. You know, like like she in the South
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: or somewhere. Please walk with the money made conversation, Miss Jody,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: what hey, what is introduction? You know? After that, I
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: feel like a vox about to go in the rainy Jody.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: You know, here's the funny part about Jody, and she
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: was this laughing so low, she was laughing so low,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and then she just opening this middle interview, she's gonna
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: start laughing introduction. That's gonna just laughing at the store.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I just I love it. Thank you, and I'm so
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: excited to be talking to you. Well, I'm excited to
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: be talking to you, of course, you know, a fan
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: of your music, fan of your talent. You're a beautiful
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: person and uh that watch you and danced dance with
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you so many years on the dance floor. So this
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: feels like okay, you know, okay, you know the music
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: is still great, Jody, But you know, music back in
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the day, I can remember exactly where I was at
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: on certain songs, and uh, you know, and that's where
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I can get kind of missing the day because you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you're throwing the music videos in there, so you kind
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: of go back to the video before you go back
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to the moment when you was on that in that
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: in that basement party, you know, just getting sweat, not
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: enough like to see what you're dancing with, you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: but you're just dancing, you know that And that is
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: something about music, and it's true, it's so associated with
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: growing up and memories and you know, just in so
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: many ways and you know, good time, bad time, uh,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: and between times and so you know my music, uh
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: it is a blessing because it spans so you know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: continuing on. But you know it represents um, you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: always a good time for people and that makes me happy.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: But what makes me happy is that she and a
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: person who you know, has has to sustain career relevance
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: in this entertainment business because I've been in it, you know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: for a long time and being in it, you know,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: trying to stay because it's such a hard business because
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: you can get you know, the discrimination happens, or agesn't happen,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: sexism happens, and you know all those things, well you know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: who is she or what has she done later? What
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: has he done later? What have they done lately? That
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: really permeates really big in the entertainment game. And it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: kind of sad because of the fact that there's so
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: much uncertainty in entertainment. How did mentally from a mental standpoint,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: how have you been able to cope with that? Jody?
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: You know, I think throughout my life, I'm I'm very focused.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I've always been a person that UM has tried to
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: have balance in my life, which is very important in
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: any profession. And UM, you know, never get too highs
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: at the highs and too low at the lows. And
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: you know, it's always been important for me to UM,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to be authentic and what I do, UH, to learn
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the business because I think a lot of people get
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: messed up getting in the entertainment industry and I did
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: started as a teenager. But I've always been business minded.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I mean when I was in junior high school, UM,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I would I had I call them side hustles. I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: was so close for people. I'd make pillows at my
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: dad's church and fry fish and and bake cupcakes to
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: make money. We're ch chen and all that little bit later.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Don't be hyden stuff earlier, so I understand. So my
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: journey has always been I think that really has helped
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: me sustain in this business. The uncertainty is because I've
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: never been afraid of the work, never been afraid to
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: say no, UM, and very meticulous about what I do.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: And so if someone has I'm not just enough, I'm
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: not that enough, it never really phases me. And I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: think it's important in life that you have to believe
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: when no one else believes, and to keep doing the
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: work in find ways to get it done. If if doors,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I mean doors have closed on me and I've opened
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: new doors for myself because I'm continuing to do the work,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: you know, Um, And it's very important, and it really
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: is important because really, when I look at your career,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: you know, because you've had success in a group, okay, Sam,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and then you've had tremendous success as an individual artist.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Talk about working with people and then the burden of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: being a solo artist because there are different different things
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: that are task when you buy yourself or you don't
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: have nothing that nobody to lean on but yourself, and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the decision and the appearances all on you. So talk
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: about the success in a group and the success as
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: a solo artist just from an entertainment standpoint, so people
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: can understand the difference. Well, you know, being in a group,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: being the only girl in the group and not actually
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: being protected was very challenging for me, and you know
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: it made me Um. You know again, I had to
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: be tough. I had to carry myself in a certain
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: way being a woman in the business. If you're not
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: kind of flighty or whatever. You know, you get labeled
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: things that aren't always very flattering. But again it's like
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I know who I am and I learned learned from it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: So going solo actually has never been a burden. Actually
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: it's been such a blessing because I get to do
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I get to own it and to be in control
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: of it and take people to work with and not
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: just do what I'm told, but to really craft. I've
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: been able to really craft uh my own niche as
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: an artist for you know, I've been a solo artist
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: now for over thirty five years, um, and seven years
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: before that and shala mar so I've been you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: on this on this journey. But being a solo I like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I like running my own business, I really do, and
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: so it's a joy. It's like, you know, it's a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: lot of responsibility taking you know, musicians and producers and um,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: but I'm about the business and so so I enjoy
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: all the aspects of it. But you're a live performer,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and we know the value of being a live performer.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: And the downside was the pandemic. They are nobody saw
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: our comming. I knew I didn't see it coming, and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: not to the extreme when they talk about shut down,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you know, because that really doesn't hit you what they're
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: talking about until it actually happened. What does that mean
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: shut down when you're talking about venues or closed, they're
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: talking about you know, restaurants or clothes. And how did
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: that whole process in your mind? How was it starting
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the process as being just what they're talking about shutting? Now,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: how did that whole process work for you? Because I'm jousing.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: It freaked me out, Okay, I think it. It had
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: to freak all of us out, and I think, you know,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: at first, actually, to be honest with you, one of
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the first things that I thought about was I'm glad
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I've always lived below my means and above my means
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: because you know, I'm glad that I'm a songwriter. And
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, God, thank god I'm a songwriter,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: because I'm really gonna be living off my royalities now
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: because there's not gonna be any concerts. And you know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: two months into it, I went through a moment where
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I felt kind of that, you know, because I like
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: to hustle up, I love performing and just you know,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: having this moment of pause. I've always taken time off
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: here and there, but to actually be forced into it. Um.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: And so we're trying. What I've really done is trying
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to find new ways to keep myself busy, create some
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: new revenue streams myself. And it's very important to again
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: is not be defeated by the situation. To find ways
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to make things happen. And so you know that's what
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I've been doing. Well, you know, not to understanding that
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: you have some facial masks or they out now they're
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: coming out. Yeah, I have Well I've had an online
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: boutique for about twenty years now and uh, I have
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you know, different merchandise coming in all the time, and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: social masks are one of the new items. Um. And
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you know those came as a result of the pandemic.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: You know, you gotta jump on stuff. I give a
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: portion of the proceeds defeating America's so it's for a
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: good cause. Um. You know I've got sanctuary candles and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: uh rooms gray coming um and you know, and then
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the music. My current song is the Healing and it's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: a timely song. Um. I got Jody Whiteley hoopering, so
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna do take on my show now,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I started with the facial mass. Now you have to
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: whoopie read now, it's it's a it's a method to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: this manic. When you come on money and make conversation.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: We got to talk about each one so it could
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: be clearly heard. Ms. Whiteley, I see, I see right now,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great relationship, but we're gonna learn
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: to make money roushan weight okay, slow and affectively, okay,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: because what we're gonna do first, we're gonna you know,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: we're gonna put now the mask out right now are
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: they yeah? Okay, cool? They are? They are available, Okay, cool.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is, were gonna get a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: little post a picture with you with the mask, and
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: we're gonna put it on my social media this week. Okay,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: but then it was over meet okay, because I got
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: eight hundred tho Facebook following any percent of my women Okay,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: because that my bacon don't ain't because they love me.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: They just love those cakes, I'll be so, you know.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So so we're gonna put that in. Then next Wednesday
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: my news letter comes out and then there's ninety thousand
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: fan club subscribers to that. So we're gonna drop the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: facial facial mask in that. Okay, so we're gonna so
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: that's the face. That's how that's how you do business.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: When you come on money making conversations, we ain't no
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: hurry to make money, which about relationships. That's how we
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: lasted this long because the relationship them about five and
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: dead people that ain't us, that ain't a we're long
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: we're long term, long term. So so so then you
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: then you talked about these candles, talk about these candle
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: come tiarsom least the big fat candles that you can
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: put it in your in your bathroom while you're taking
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: up a bathroom when you outside reading the book. What
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: type of count thought they? So the sanctuary can't be
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the glass the big candles those sold out. So the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: new shipment candles are trump their tens travel tens. So
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you know it's very compact, uh, the luxury soy candles,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but they are they're not the big oversized glass one
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: this one because these are easier to ship right. Well, okay,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: so now that's sold doctor, say right, the new travel
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: tens those just arrived today, Okay, cool, So so so
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: we can put that on social media too. Yeah, Okay, cool,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: So you old me talk talk. I don't think you're
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: calling money make conversation just to have a money make conversation.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: You're not making their money because you got you know,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: says Miss Jody Wideley, You say, Miss Whiteley. So so
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: we got there, we got the facial mass. We just
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: got new shipment of Sanctuary candles in gott to do
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a banner for that. So let's talko. We got into
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the hoopie ring then't got to that yet, right, No,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I'm flowing down, learn quick, learner, and you know you
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: gotta listen to Peaceles looking now. So now let's talk
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: about the music song Healing. Let's talk about that. What
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I know, you have a racial unrest pandemic
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: is over the avertly affecting the African American community. We
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: have an election here that uh, it's just emotionally charging
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: this country in the world is watching. And so when
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I hear a song called healing, tell us what the
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: story behind it and what you're trying to achieve with
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you know, what your music? Who you're trying to reach
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: with the healing? I mean, you know, because my music
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: has progressed so much over the years, and I wrote
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: this song before the pandemic came out came about, and
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: really I wanted to do a song to remind people to,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: no matter what's going on in the world, never let
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: anyone jim your life year wattag the wattage lived within you,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and to encourage people to live in and now because
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: now it's what we have and what we make of life.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And it's a dance room because I know people like
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: miss Jodie. Part of my brand is the dancing. But
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: it's an inspirational song. And it just so happened that
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: the pandemic hit and then you know, a black lives
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: matter and everything, and so it was one of those
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: things to me, the universe had the ultimate timing, uh
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and me putting it out and when you and how
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: does the how is the music being distributed to streaming
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and work work work platforms. It's on all digital platforms
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and streaming services, so you can download it from iTunes,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: or you can stream and listen to it on Spotify,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Apple Music and also uh, you know YouTube of course,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: and and I do have a Jodi Whiteley YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. No, no, I don't know that Chalnel. I
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: know a Miss Jodie Waterley YouTube channel. I don't know
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Jodie Watterley YouTube child. That must be That must be
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: like a knockoff. That must be a knock because I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: say I only talking to Miss Jordie Watten This is
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: a Miss Jori Watle YouTube town line. I'm promoted and
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: now I'm I'm just gonna throw the room miss in front.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: That's how I mentioned, That's how I met it. I
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: love talking about you. Now let's get to the hoop
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: ere ring now it rings. Now who thought of this idea?
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: And it sounds so much fun? Talk about the hoop
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the rings, well, you know it's a Watley signature. The
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: jompbo cool bearings have been since my solo debut for
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: a New Love and People. Yeah, Joe Journey, if you
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: saw me doing some bad dance and moves, you know
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: that the old man moved. You know, I really think
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I'm still got it going on. But obviously if you
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: saw me, you go, okay, stop, you really need to
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: stop trying to dance to that song like that I
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: just had to let you know that I was doing
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: some bad things over here, acting like I still had
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: a skill set. But I don't so the hoopiere rings
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: because it's not so much fun. First of all, Miss
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: joy Wer, Yeah, I'm enjoying this anyway because your energy
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: is just on fire. And let me just tell you something.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: You know, we we live in a stressed time because
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: of the fact that we um and I said that earlier.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: We are talking about the election coming up, and it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: just great fear, you know, as a as a black man,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: you know, as a black person in general. You know,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: but the police has not been uh, throughout our lives,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: not something recently. We've always had concerns when we got
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: pulled over, especially at night, and so unfortunately for George Floyd,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: white people see it for the first time or acknowledge
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: it being stunned. Okay, yeah, and going really it was
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: eight minutes they didn't stop. Because I like it when
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I see white people out there protesting for for my cause. Yes,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I and I agree with you because I think that
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: will make the ultimate difference, because, like you said, we
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: were used to this, unfortunately, but it's gonna take white people,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: um to get involved. So seeing them out there protesting
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, you know, painting Black Lives
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Matter on their cars and businesses and everything. But we
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: really do need um some change here and um you know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: but they that was a big difference because I've never
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: saying that many uh you know that diversity. Yeah, I
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: was stunning myself. Okay, you know when you when you
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: see it march, you know, Okay, white people, white people
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: walking by the camera, white people, white people, black white people,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: white people, black black, white people, white people. Okay, we
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: need this, We need this because because because of the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: fact that it's not it doesn't become like these horrible
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: black people out here tearing up our cities. These horrible
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: black people. You know, you have to be fearful of them.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: You know, lock your doors, don't let them in your neighborhood.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: They're gonna tear up your city. And that's what that's
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen without their participation. And so because I
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: because I could, I can sell you an iconic individual
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: because of the fact that when you these hoop ear rings,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: when you can take a signature piece like a hoop
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: ear ring, you know, and then and then the people
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: recognize as a style and then you said, you know something,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this a fashion moment and then people
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: buy it. How does that make you feel? I mean
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I feel very empowered by that. And um, you know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: as a black woman, it's you know, um to be
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: part of you know, other black artists that trends that
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: really transmitt being on the music and so to be
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: in that category of style icon or you know things
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: of that nature. Um, it's a good ceiling because it's
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like it's it's me. It's a part of who I am.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And bringing great style and class has been always very
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: important to me. Now let's let's get the real deal. Now.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: When I've been waiting on the kitchen talk, she dropped
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: a little you know, when I was in junior high.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I fry fish, she makes some cupcakes and
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. She she was just setting us up
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: that she didn't just start cooking last week. Oh she
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: didn't just start cooking doing the pandemic. Just like act
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: like she don't have nothing to do. I've been get
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: to the middle school. Yeah, okay, cool. So, uh, you know,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I'm if anybody knows anything about me, Jody, is that
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I'm a foodie. I love food. I will eat my
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: dessert for I eat my meal in public and take
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: them to the fine out in restaurant. I go, excuse me,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: excuse me, give me my dessert. Men and people have
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: looked at me strange and go or you do that stuff.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I needs to know what I'm gonna get right now,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: and so so talk about this whole, the early stages
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: of cooking and then cooking. Now you know and how
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: does how does it? Is it a calm calming effect
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: for your life, for your career? And um, you know
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: because you know, because you know your fitness person school,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you probably eat a little bit different than me because
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I I'll make you mad. Jody be going because I
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: make a lot of people mad. People, How does he
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: stay like that and eat like that? I get there
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: a lot for people. You make me sick. I get
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of You make me sick with sean, you
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: get on my nerves, get out my face. You know.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I eat a double king burger with relish double cheese, uh,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: with large fat fries and a large strawberry shake, and
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: won't miss a beat. If that's a fat that's a
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: fat burger for people. Don't knew. She knew exactly what
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I was talking about. In fact, it's funny you should
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: mention fat burger because the original uh well you said,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the popular one used to be in l A in
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: the kind of the Beverly Hills area, and it used
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: to be the spot people would go there and be
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: parked out there on the weekend. Mean, it was the best.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I know about that burger. She didn't break,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: She didn't break. Try when I started ralling off that men, yeah, yeah,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: that's a king burger. That's double king right now. Yeah, yeah,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: come a large, she said. He he talking about here,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: talking about fat right there? Lord strawberry shake yeppy. Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: He really on point when everything he's said right there.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: He has not stuff. He is truly a guy who's
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: been in fat bergs. And I you know, I love
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I love food. Um, you know, I started cooking and
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: junior high the necessity initially because my mom and dad
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: split up. And when I did with my dad, um
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: somebody had to do the cooking. So my mom was
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: a good because so I just kind of remember things
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: that she made and and so you know, growing up,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed cooking. It's relaxing. Um. You know, like
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I said, I've been in entertainment for you know, most
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: of my life since a teenager. So it's always a
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: treat to make a home cook meal, being home and
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: people look at me and say, oh, she probably can't cook. Absolutely.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: You know you're attractive, you know everything. Yeah, everybody don't know. Yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: and you know you don't look like you have bad days,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you know for people look people look at they make
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: assessments of you. You know what you didn't cook? Look
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: at that, you know the second time. You know, I'm saying,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: that's jolly right. You know, you know she probably has
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: somebody because but I love to cook, cook, and I
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: love to bake. One of my favorite things to bake
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: my kids. I have a daughter and a son. They're
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: young adults now, but Thankgiving, I do uh tiny butter
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: rolls and from scratch with the yeast that rises, that
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: take three hours and the whole bit. But it's all
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: with love. So I think I love you could love
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: into cooking like so, I understand your passion. And and
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: food is a thing like music. It makes pepepel happy too,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't that? Well, it makes me happy. And I know
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I'm having a fantastic time, you know, talking to you
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: about just life in general, because of the fact that
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you know, first of all, your an entrepreneur and you're
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: end penny thinker and uh and the part about success,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I know that and I tell people all the time.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: You know, being successful in the entertainment business is rough
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: because everybody sees your can see you. Okay, you know
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you've been successful at IBM. Nobody sees you. I'm not
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: saying this name, but nobody sees you. But when you're entertainment,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: they see you. They know that they might know how
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: much money you make, and they can they know the
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: ticket prices, they know the size of the venues you play,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: and so that takes a mental toll on what people
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: can perceive you being a wanting to be a capable
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: of producing and so so it's important that these relationships.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna let you know, Jody, I'm in
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: your life now. Okay, So so you know you you
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: got stuff dropping, don't you don't don't do don't you
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: go nowhere? Said I forgot about you. Said it's gonna
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: be a problem between me and you, Miss Jody Ride.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just let you know. You know, around there trying
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: to shut down your YouTube channel. That's what I'm gonna
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: be doing that, you know. You know there's Brushawn's trolling
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Jody wild Lean on social media. He's crazy, man, He's crazy. Joe.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I only did one interview with I don't know what's
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: wrong with the dude. I just do want any of
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: you to do he controlling me because somebody stop him. No,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just know. It's a joy. It's a complete joy
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: because I wanted to meet you and you're a person
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: that because even though you're behind the scenes, I want
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: to tell you, I'm the kind of person like I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: like researching people like well, who especially successful people as
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: well schools on this team? Who you know? And then
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: again it goes back to when I was middle and
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I used to read about four models and I was like,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I wonder who who runs for my models? And I
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: went to the library and looked up I Leaning Forward.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: So I like to know about people. So I've been
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: knowing about you for a long time. You and I
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: have so much respect for you. So you control me
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: all you like, well, but before go, I don't want
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to I can't be you know, I kind of you
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: know people get mad. Well, he was starting talking about
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: the kitchen. Didn't you just stop talking? So let's talk
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: about that the kitchen. What you're doing now, what's some
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: of your favorite meals? And because you mentioned you mentioned
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: some good Southern starters, frave fishing cupcakes. Just to get
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: some good black people rolling right there, right there, right there,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: talk about you talking about your kitchen skills. Well, you
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: know what one thing I encourage people that follow me,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I do meatless Monday. Um. Last week I did a
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: black eyed tea and um, so I you know, gave
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: the recipe and everything, and I had it with a
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: chale salad because I in this pandemic. Also, everybody can
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: be always felt and have a double double. Are you
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: trying to hit at me? Are you trying to hit
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: at me? I'm the only person on this call talking
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: about a double double double me double tee. Stop mixing up.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: So I share healthy recipes and um, and then you know,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: my cheat days, my indulgences and everything. Because also being
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: a woman's like, people would look at you different. So
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I try to stay in shape. But I let people
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: know you can have robust, the wealth season, great healthy
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: food and then you can have your cheat days where
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: you can have your fried chickens and you know, with
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: extra hot sauce on it and greens with meat, but
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: you can also have the greens without me, so you know.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I so I mixed it up and you know, and
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: to inspire others. Okay, cool, let mesk you. These are
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: like short videos or or that you can upload and
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: stuff like that or huh, they just you you shoot
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: them live and that's where they live on your social media.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I put them on my website. Jodi Whitley got net
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: do a blog. I don't seem them yet. Well not true,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I do, okay if you feel them and it's short
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: versions with me and I put on my Saturday because
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I always you know, I had TM TRMORI just recent relationships,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you know all that. I would love to post some
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: of your work. If you have photos, if you have
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: photos of food that you've cooked and just a recipe,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I post that. Let's let's do that, let's have let's
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: have some fun with this, and let's have some fun
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: with two photos and some recipes. I start posting it
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, just just you know, just having fun, just
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: showing people another great side of your your brain, your career,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: what you're doing out there, but more important than just
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: having fun in life, you know, because people need to
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: see that and and it's it's just amazing. So so
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: let's tell everybody about social media girl and your websites.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: And you know it's it's thirty minutes now. You know
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: we've been talking for thirty minutes. You know that, Jody.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: It's just so quick. I've knowl you all my life.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: We're just out. If you're thirty minutes, Joy, I'm just
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: gonna let you know. It's so funny people you're talking
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: to Shine, I go, hey, dude, it's thirty minutes. We
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: really need stout so people get there a lot to go. Wow,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: that's it. That's it cool. So tell me about your
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: social and your website. And you owe me before we eat?
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Ow you owe me, um, you know the facial mask.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: You on me candles and you owe me some. You
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: on me some photos of food along with the recipes.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: And I swear to you, Jody, I will post and
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I swear to you. I put it I I I
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: don't ever get on this. And if you're talking about something,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I want to I have committed to your success, continued success.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Let me see it straight. Your continued success and just
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: being able to share another side of you as an
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: entrepreneur and a home or home body. That's what I
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: call people cook at the whole bodies. You know, entrepreneur
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: is the is the sanctuary candles and the facial mask.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: That's the entrepreneur side of you. And when you're and
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: now my headquarters is in Atlanta. I have in my
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: office my building, brought a building. I'm just gonna brag
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit of the big build and so and so.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I have a full full kitchen in my building. When
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you come to Atlanta, invite you to come by and
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: we're gonna cook in the kitchen and we're gonna videotape it. Okay,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: we're gonna put that on social media. Okay, we're gonna
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: know I just we're gonna do with Jodie. We're gonna
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: argue in the kitchen. That's gonna be fun. Okay. What
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do is come my kids to tell me
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: what to do. I can tell that, but I have
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: a lively time. Ms. Joe Rochan tell us about your
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: social media and website. Joe that you've been so much fun.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Let's let's get it out there. Okay, all my socials
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: are verified Joe Watley j O d Y W T
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: l Y because you know, some people still can't sell
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: website that Joe Watley dot net and it links to
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: all my socials, Mike and everything, so I'm very accessible.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: And at your girl. Howlet you girl hollowized your girl
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: for thirty minutes and it's been awesome, and you know
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: you're you have called blast to come on my show
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: again in the future. Because what we're gonna do when
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: you get near Christmas like November, wanta come on back?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Promote stuff that you know, the Hoopie rank and all
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: that stuff I so people can buy for Christmas. President
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: get that hype rolling. And then I always do like
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: a Black Monday, and I dropped all my friends stuff
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: in there and I put it out on social media
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: does really well. So know that that the Rushawn got
• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: mailbox money, Joey, I love you girl, Thank you, Thank
• 1:00:42
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• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:59
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• 1:01:01
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• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: currently resides in Atlanta, Georgia, john He and George playing baseball, singing,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: and working on building his nonprofit organization called You Can Too,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: which encourages kids to pursue their dreams and the arts
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: and education. His career started on on Broadway, New York Broadway,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: The Broadway Broadway as Young Simba and Disney production The
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Lion King. He has shared the screen with Kevin Hart
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: to Roger p Henson, starting the Netflix series Everybody Sucks,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: played a young Ralph trust fand in a new edition
• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I have seen the movie. It's fantastic. Please welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. Jahi Winston. Hello, Hello, thank you for
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: having me. Well, thank you the Johnny. Can I ask
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: you how old you are? Right now? Fifteen years old,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: and you have a foundation, a nonprofit organization called You
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Can't Into HOWL. Is that nonprofit? UM, it's sixteen years old.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: We started it, I think maybe eighteen right around UM
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: ten closer, Yeah, yeah, Okay, tell us what it is
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: because this is really interesting that you know, you're fifteen.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Most people are concerned about I'm not saying that their selfish,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: but concerned about their own personal gains. And here you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: are trying to get back and help on individuals because
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: we all know that arts and education is a tough
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: field to get into and to pursue as of success.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: So you decided to start something. Tell us about what
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: exactly it is and how can students participate? Well, You
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Can't Do is a nonprofit organization, and basically we UM
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: mostly operating marginalized communities, whether it be in the city
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: or Atlanta, d C. Or anywhere UM in the country.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: UM and or innovation that allows and helps young kids
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: in those Martina communities specifically to achieve their dreams and
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: go after whatever they want because often times the environments
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: where the resources are a lot um here than maybe
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: the middle class suburbs of Georgia or anywhere else you
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: don't have the resources and you don't have the the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: visibility to actually see and be able to accomplish your
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: dreams and your goals, and so um, we get tools
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and we go into schools and talk. Obviously I can't
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: do that now because of the pandemic, but uh, that's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: primarily the work that we do in marginalized community. Do
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you do anything now because of the pandemic or you know,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: via zoom or via any virtual platforms. Well, we're trying
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: to brainstorm and try to come up ways and innovative
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: ways that we can still be productive during this time.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: That's sort of been what we've been doing during quarantine,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: is just trying to bring one and come up with
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: different ways that we can expand and still be productive
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: during the pandemic. You know, I have I have the
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: honor of and this is just listening to you talk
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: and watching your career, and I have a something that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: honor black men. It's called the Cafe Moka Swag Award
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Carrio because it's a female centric syndicated show for women
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: of color. Like one point forward million women listen to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: the show weekly on syndications. The Weekend Show and the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Cafe Maka Swagger was a celebration of black men who
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: are making a difference in our community by empowering others
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: to reach their life goals, from civic leaders, businessmen, activists,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: celebrities and everyday dads. I'm gonna tell you something, joh
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: he I've never given that award to a teenager until now.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Oh wow. Um, you know, because because see, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to saying the thing that, um
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: just you know. You know what I do research for
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I do an interview, and so I get a pretty
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: good grasp of what a person I'm talking to. That's
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: why some of the interviews they sent come to the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: question they sent to me. I go all page and
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: people go nobody has ever asked that question because I'm
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: actually I kind of gotta sense. I'm a former entertainer.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I manage some of the biggest stars in this country,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: and currently manage one of the biggest stars in this country.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: And I produced a lot of TV shows. And when
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I when I hear a young man who's fifteen years old, who,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: like I said, who's making a difference in our community
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: by empowering others to reach their life goals, that's you Uh, Sody,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: why is that important to you to help people and
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: ok young people to reach their life goals? Oh? Man,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I think just everything that I do from a place
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: of wanting to to help first and foremost my people, UM,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: black people, not only with my people, but primarily my people,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: because UM, you know, just the way that our societal
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: structure is in the hierarchical nature of it. Oftentimes, if
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: you are black and you are marginalized, you are born
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: with more strikes on even um our Caucasian brothers and sisters.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: So I think knowing that and being aware of that,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: it makes you responsible because once you're educated on and
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: once you're aware of it, you now have a responsibility.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: You have the tools, and you have the resources, and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: so now it's your responsibility to do something about that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: and to make sure that UM. Just because someone is
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: UM maybe less fortunate when it comes to privilege and power,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that they can't have the same access
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: to UM their dreams and their goals as anyone else
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: who does have that privilege. Is born with that privilege
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: and that power. And so that's where all of my
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: work comes from, whether it be the roles that I take,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: whether it be the work that I do off screen
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: and the stories that I write and create and curate.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I always want to come from a place of Okay,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: how is my community going to feel about this? And
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: how can I service my community? But as by doing
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: this cool, I want to I wanna go to the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: movie that's currently out, that's be out HBO Max and
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: October October eight, that be in fact called Chomp City Kings,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: and I want to wrap that Raptors conversation up with
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: would be in great detail. I want to go back
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: to the young Simber days and all these other opportunities
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: you have. But I watched Chomp Sages. I couldn't take
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: my eyes off a young man. You have the ability
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: to wait for the moment. You have an uncanny skill
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: where you're dynamic enough to understand that sometimes you don't
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: have to say something to be effective. Mhm. That's a
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you when I right now, I'm visually going
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: through different scenes. One of my favorite scenes was I've
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: seen the movie twice. I usually when I'm engaged in something,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I gotta gonna see this again, you know, because you
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: know when you see something I'm saying, Johnny, when you
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: see something two or three times. Actually, you really enjoy
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: it more because you start really because you you already
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: know it's coming up, so you kind of see it
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit different. Oh, I didn't see that. And
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite scenes when Black shows up at
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: the summer run and then you just standing at him, man,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: and that's the moment I'm talking to you. Didn't have
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: to say anything, but you knew your acting ability showed
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: me how important he was in your life. Tell me
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: about that skill set, Tell me about that a build. Um.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I think that's just UM, I don't know, thank you. UM.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: I think that's just I skill something that I picked up.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: I am. I gotta really great compliments from a producer.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: UM when I was working on film that I did
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: a few years ago. Uh, and he said that the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: reason that I got the job was basically what she said,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: my ability. It wasn't what I said. Is what I
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: didn't say that really, UM allowed me to get that job.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: And so I think just focusing on that and naturally,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: when you're in the moment as an actor, you know
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: if you're doing your right. I think every actor or
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: should possess that ability to still emote and still be
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: in the moment, even when they're not saying anything. So
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: it really is, you know, and I'm not telling I'm
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: not telling you going all this is not saying anything.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Not here. I'm just not telling. Okay, now you gotta speak. Now,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: you gotta speak. But you know the ability to trust yourself.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: And I want to go back because I saw Lion King.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: First time I saw Lyon King was in Los Angeles, Okay,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: And then I saw it in Las Vegas, and lay
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: had merged. I went and saw it in New York City.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: That New York City show is a real deal, you know,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: yes it is. That's where first team first team, the
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: first team first team. You know, you better have your
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: act together in New York City at the Lion King
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: New York City. Tell us about how that opportunity happened
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: to you, happened for you to be young Simba in
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: New York City, everybody live out of such a stages
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  Speaker 1: because there everybody thinks all the Lion Kings are like, no,
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  Speaker 1: they're not. They're good. They're good, right, but they are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all of these productions are great. All I can say
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  Speaker 1: it definitely it's different UM. But I will say the
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  Speaker 1: modified version, the modified story of how I became a
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  Speaker 1: part of the Lion King. UM. A friend of my
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  Speaker 1: call for young SIMS was in young knowledge to be
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  Speaker 1: in the Broadway production, in the National Tool production of
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  Speaker 1: The Lion King. UM to that audition and that that
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  Speaker 1: first audition there was about UM five hundred kids there.
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  Speaker 1: And for those who aren't familiar with a UM an
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  Speaker 1: So I went to that audition, I ended up getting
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  Speaker 1: a callback. I got another callback after that audition, and
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  Speaker 1: then I went to New York City to audition in
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  Speaker 1: front of the executives or the the yes, the executives
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  Speaker 1: for the for the Lion King on Broadway, and I
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  Speaker 1: ended up getting the role two days later, and I
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  Speaker 1: moved to New York with my mom and we lived
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  Speaker 1: in a shoebox department for about fifteen months. And after
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: that I got UM the new Audition story and everything
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  Speaker 1: just sort of started having to that production. You're listening
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  Speaker 1: Now let's let's let's get back to Chomp City Mom.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a bounce around because you you you, You're just
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: so talented that every story gonna take me in a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: different direction, but it all leads back to Chop City
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: kings How did that happen for you? My friend? That
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: movie opportunity okay, um, just like any other I was,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: actually I was. There was a challenging year. I been
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: in a movie that didn't do as well as that,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: though I was gonna do in a TV show that
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: got canceled after one season, And in the midst of
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out where I want, what I wanted
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: to do next, and just trying to figure out what
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: was the next stage in my career, the my agent
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: sent over Trying City to script for Trum City Kings Um,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: and I put off reading it for a while because
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, this isn't the right project, even
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: though I hadn't read the script, but I auditioned for anyway.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: I put myself on tape and uh, I got a
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: call back and they I read again, and then eventually
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I went to Los Angeles and I scream tested forward
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: with Danielle Hansley m litt d and uh because I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: curd It, who are also in the movie that played.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: They played Lamont and swear to God, I screen tested
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: with them, and I am screen testing in front of
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: on held Manuel Soto, our director, and Uh, I think
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: leaving that room, the three of us knew that mostly
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: knew obviously that until we've gotten the job yet, but
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: I think we could steal the energy that that we
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: that we had done something, especially so maybe a week later.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: I think we got maybe a week later, which is
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: which is unusual because sometimes it takes months. A week later,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: yeah later, you know what I'm saying exactly for real,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: It was dahnhing. But like I said, I think we
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: knew from the energy in the room, just the chemistry
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: between the three of us, that we that we had
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: done something, specially if we knew nothing else, we knew
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: that we had sort of killed the audition and that
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: we had a special chemistry and bond on screen. Um.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: And so a week later they said that they wanted me,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: and we worked out the deal and I was still
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: sort of uncertain, but I was like, all right, I'm
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: gonna trust my gun. I'm sure of God. And I
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: and I went posting head and it was it was
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: really cool. And I think, I'll say this about charm
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: City Kings. It was my first time being at the
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: center of the story, I'll see, um, And I definitely
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: think that it sharpened my work essic. I worked very
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: hard on an off screen you know. I would do
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: maybe nine a half hour days, and I worked every
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: single day, every single day of production I was there. Um.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I think I had maybe a day and a half
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: off and I worked every single day and I would
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: come home to the hotel at night and still work
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: on the script and work on the accident work of
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the die. I left like, I really worked hard on
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: this and so this is a labor of love from
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: all of us who are part of the film. And yeah,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: we're just really excited and proud of it for for sure. Now,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: when I when I hear you talk like this about it,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: I I do, I do I see a young director
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: start would be born here? Uh, sir, John, do I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: hear uh? Uh? Your listen speak it. I would see it. Yeah,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, absolutely because of the fact that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: that uh when I when I you have first of all,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: you have a passion for you have a God give
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: God to give you a brilliant talent that you're exercising
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and maximizing with hard work and focus. That's how you
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: win long term. You don't win long term, you know, uh,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: just doing it when you feel like it. You know,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: you know you can't just because you can duntor basketball.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: I mean you can shoot shoot a basketball. We've learned
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: that in life. And so Meek meals his role in
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: the Umu mentor let's talk about his role off screen
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: with you and because if it felt very genuine on screen, yeah, um,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Meek and I. It was interesting because Meek released his
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: his last song that he released, Championships. Uh, he was
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: working on that while we were shooting the movie. And uh,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: he has an incredible work ethic that he was. He
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: was going back and forth. I mean, you can't one
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: of the things you can't say about me because that
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: he doesn't work hard. He was extremely hard. Um and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: he was doing Championships while he was going coming back
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: and forth doing shows, working on the album and doing
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: the movie full time. So um, he has incredible work
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: ethic and also, uh, one of the things that people
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: don't know about him is that he's actually kind of
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: shy and reserved unto himself. I would say, I think
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: people have a preconceived notion of the rappers in general,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: just because of the field that they're in, Um, in
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: the Braggadocian nature that is sort of required to do that. Um,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: but he's been He's a really nice and simple guy,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: really shy and UM. He came prepared, and you know,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: we all sort of it was a team effort to
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: sort of make him feel comfortable because this is the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: first time, his first time doing like a movie of
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: this magnitude and mine as well. So I think we
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: sort of help each other out in that sense. Um.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: He would ask me questions and I would ask him questions.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: And the cool thing about it is we were both
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: equally inquisitive when it came to how each of us worked,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: and I would watch him from the distance and sort
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: of see how he worked. And now he got into it,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't It was really cool to get to
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: work with him and see him become more and more
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: immerged into the process at production went on. Now when
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: you say the production, now, when we were talking about
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: his three friends, young friends in this movie, and and uh,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: it likens me to another one of my favorite movies
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: on a series on Showtime, The Shot. There's three young
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: men in that series that I really really are emotionally
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: have tied to and I worry about during the series.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: And and I think that's what happens when you have
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: good chemistry in that television series is shot. And so
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: now when I go to Chomp City Kings, I found
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: myself worrying about you three little bad suckers, Okay, wondering
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: about what you'all gonna get into that's not gonna lead
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: to anything that's positive in your life. That's the chemistry
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: you was talking about, creating relatable characters that people can
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: like be motivated to root for and be saddened if
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: they don't achieve the success that they're planning or shooting
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: to get in life. That How did that How did
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: that play itself out? When we talked about Meek Mill.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: But that chemistry that you three had on screen, I
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: have on screen. Because the movie is coming out on
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: HBO Max in October talk about that or I, as
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  Speaker 1: I said before, I think because I uh VD Danielle
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: na Um, we knew believing the chemistry read that if
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: even if we didn't get the job, we knew that
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: we had done something special in the room. And we
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: did the screen test, and uh, it was really amazing
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: to see our bond develop and growth throughout the filming
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: of the movie and for us to trust trust each
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: other this um throughout the process of filming and um
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: just get closer off screening on screen. It was that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: whole All of that, you know, goes into how well
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: the chemistry is on screen, and I think we all
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: knew that and on Hail, our director and our producer
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Kayley Pinkett knew that, Um, if the chemistry between us
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: doesn't work, then the movie doesn't work. We are the
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: center in the heart of the movie is there was
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: the friendship between Lamont and Sweare to God. So I
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: think knowing that and knowing the responsibility that allowed us
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: to trust each other more in to give an authentic
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: performance in the trade of his very authentic I'm talking
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: to John he Winston to start parts Shines as it
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: leads the highly acclaimed Sundance Award winning feature film Charm
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: City Kings, which is an executive abuse by Will and
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Jada Smith, also starring My Man. We just talked about
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: rapper Meek Mill and We're coming out and were released
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: October eight on HBO. Max Um, Karen Hard on your resume. Okay,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna we're gonna start talking nors right now
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: to your John Heat. Uh, to Roger B. Hinton on
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: your resume. Okay, Uh you know, uh Will and Jason
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Smith on your resume. Uh, How am I talking to
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: you John here? I don't I don't know if I'm
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if from flying in that that level
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: of air right now? How am I talking to you?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: John Heat? Because you're you're you're up there, boy, you
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: got your food. Change is pretty powerful right now. Talk
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: to me about working with these people and what have
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: they brought to you as far as because you're very mature,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: let's gonna just get that out the mature. You're very focused.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: You want of these kids who who get it early on.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: You always tell people, you know, President Obama didn't didn't
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: think about being the president when he decided to run
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: for president. He prepared to be a president. When I
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: when I, when I did my homework on you and
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: listening to this interview, this is something you wanted to do, man,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: and you you were preparing every day to be successful
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: at it. And I saw it in Chomp City King
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: more than anything, because, like you said, that was your
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: first leading role. There's the first time putting yourself out
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: there where if you suck, then the movie sucks. Of
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: course it didn't happen because it was an award when
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: you Feature film at sun Dance and so talk about
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: working with these incredibly iconic talents that are recognizable on
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: social media, that are recognizable, and then the magazine that
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: they appear on, the they create engagement when they appear
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: on TV and in the movies. Talk about those relationships
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: started with my man Kevin hard Well, Uh, all of
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: those um relationships and the dynamics and working with all
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: those people have been great. But I would say about Kevin,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Kevin is more than anything, He's just a genuine, nice,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: high and human being. I mean, I think I think
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: that's the general consensus from everyone who has worked with him.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Is just his his heart and his spirit and his
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: energy on set. He exudes such positivity like that's not
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: just his brand for no reason. The whole positivity thing
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: and the positive vibe, like he exludes that on and
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: off screen, when the cameras are on and when they're off.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Um And Uh, he's just a naturally giving person. And
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: like I said, he's just really kind and that's just
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: who we used by nature. He doesn't know he can't
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: be anything else. And that's when you know that he's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: genuine and authentic, when you know you really can't be
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you don't know how any other way to be, but
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: who you are, which is uh giving and generous person. Uh.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: I'll say Taragi um was an incredible experience just because
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: I literally grew up watching I grew up watching all
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: of those people that you name, but well you only
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: watching everybody, but uh, Aggie was pretty special just because
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: you know, she sort of a hometown girl. My family
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: is from d C. And she's from the same area
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: as my mom and my my oun and where my
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: mom grew up. So that was pretty special to do that.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: It was a full circle moment. Uh. And so my
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: mom and Taraji used to go to the same hair
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: style is back in the day, but they didn't know
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: each other and my mom. This is crazy. My mom
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: was in the salon the day before to Lodging left
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: for Hollywood. Tarajia come in and said, the story is
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: Targia come in and my hey, y'all, you know, make
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: sure y'all tell me, you know, goodbye and wish me luck,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: because I used to go to l A tomorrow. Um,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: and my mom was the day that, the day before
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Saragi left to go to That's that's how twenty fis
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: years later. You know, I got to work with her
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: and we got to sort of my mom garragic got
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: to sort of talked about that. But yeah, that was incredible,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: and you know, it's just all of these experiences have
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: been really really beautiful in full circle. The fact that
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: I'm still pinching myself, the fact that I get to
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: work with them and bond with them and to sort
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: of like my industry very godmother, you know, you go,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: you check in every now and then. I wish that
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: happy birthday. So yeah, I'm really grateful for all of
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: those relationships and experiences. Now, when you when you look
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: at the life in general, um, I live in Atlanta, giant,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: you know, not trying to get into your life in
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: the thing. But I do like your lot if you,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: if you could you tell me you're like, you know,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: your outdoorsy kind of a guy. Um, and the movie
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: is about bikes, watching the skills sets out there. I
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: just want to bounce back because I gotta talk about that,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: because Lord knows, I couldn't do none of the things
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: those young men were doing skill set wise out there.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: With just talk about that experience in general, watching that
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: and watching it being taped and realizing that that's a
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: whole different level skill set level out there, that that's
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's special. Oh my gosh. That was one
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of Like any time my scene
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: was a though, I would always we would because I
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: did and out. We would always want to stay and
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: watch the riders do their stunts because that was like
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: the best part. Gino Braxton, Gino shout out Chino who's
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: in the film. Uh he played Jamal in the film
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: and uh he is known across the world. Not I
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: was about to say the country, but across the world.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest dirt bike riders. Like in
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: the game, like he's crazy, he can tap dance. I'm
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: this is a non exaggeration. He could tap dance on
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: the bike, wow, with one wheel in the air, like
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  Speaker 1: He's straight out of Beverly Hills today, Todd T. J. Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: Sorry about that. Good morning, Rashan. How you doing, my friend?
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  Speaker 1: Uh l A. That's when some people during the pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: it's gopn to be pandemic uh hot, pandemic territory out there.
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  Speaker 1: How is living in Los Angeles or being in Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 1: which is a part of Beverly Hills being right now?
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  Speaker 1: And it's it's great. I've you know, I've uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's funny you say from Beverly Hills, And that sounds
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: sounds funny introducing me that way, because I'm from South
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  Speaker 1: Carolina and Columbia, Casey, South Carolina. That's right, that's right, pokemon,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And uh and so uh and uh and
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  Speaker 1: and I've made my most of my money. And while
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: I was in Washington, d C. But man, during this pandemic,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: I decided to come out to l A and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time out here in Beverly Hills. And and
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: and you know, have a beautiful place out here. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: my team works from this place, so we're able to
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  Speaker 1: quarantine with a group of people I love, like, am
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: productive with, and so it's made it a lot more fun.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm really into the car culture. I
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: love cars, so it's a it's a great place to
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  Speaker 1: be because you can't get COVID and you know, driving
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: your cars around. Well, I'm gonna tell you this, man,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: I've lived in Los Angeles fifteen years. I always tell
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  Speaker 1: people you can stand on the car of Doheny and
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  Speaker 1: Wilsham and see every popular car in the world passed
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: that street light within an hour. So if you're a
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: car junkie or car foodie or a car guy who
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: just wants to eat up some great cars and look
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: at them. Beverly Hills, California, my friend, it's the place
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: to be because they got the cars. Man, they got
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: the cars. T J. Absolutely absolutely they do. So tell
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  Speaker 1: us a little bit going. U. No, no, we know you,
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  Speaker 1: but you see you're about to go going. You just
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  Speaker 1: going somewhere through complete completely. I was just I was
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  Speaker 1: just no, no, I was just um, I was just
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  Speaker 1: jumping down on what you said. Is no need to
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: do that. But yeah, so we can just move forward.
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  Speaker 1: But not no problem. Tell us about your brain right quick, TJ.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: From your words before I get in detail. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've got my research, but I would like people to
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: tell their story a little bit and let's, uh, let's
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: break it down and build it up and uh and
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: let everybody know the journey that got you here to
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: this interview. No, I appreciate that. So it's a deal.
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  Speaker 1: I'm up again. I'm from like Casey, South Carolina. Some
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: of the guys, man that's listening to this interview, they'll
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  Speaker 1: know when I say Pokemon, South Carolina. There's a little
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  Speaker 1: area in Casey, South Carolina. I grew up on a
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  Speaker 1: short bus. I grew up stuttering so badly that you know,
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  Speaker 1: people made fun of me. And I was on the
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  Speaker 1: short bus, so you know, the teachers and stuff didn't
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  Speaker 1: think I was that smart. Right, So I was on
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  Speaker 1: this bus and it took a long time for me
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  Speaker 1: to figure out that I just had a speech impediment
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't that that. You know, I wasn't smart.
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  Speaker 1: So I had to work really hard and and grew
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: up to like a teenage bomb and you know, poor
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff where man, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have any idy that was mentoring or sharing knowledge specifically
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: of how to um achieve financial success, how to be
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, how to build a business, how to think
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: about things. So my brand is about taking all the
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: years of experience that I've had and and a lot
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: of different ventures and helping other people do startups. How
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: do you take your business? Take that skill, start your business,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: start making money and scaling it so that you can
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: build financial freedom and have a business that you're still
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: proud of. You feel successful because you own it, and
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: something that you know other people can look at you.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: And so man, this guy's went okay, and I'm proud
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: of the kind of thing. So that's what my brand
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: is ultimately about. And you know, I'm very familiar with Columbia,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: South Carolina, Charleston, that whole run up just syndicated radio
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  Speaker 1: with Steve Harvey for sixteen years and when our first
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: market was Columbia, South Carolina, and so so I played
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: with that many times, went down and performed in the
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: town town hall down there. Uh sent up the seats
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: about three thousands. So very familiar with Columbia South Carolina
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: and uh, great people, great food. Let's go and put
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: that out there and the great a Bromisphere. So how
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: did you get out of color be a South Carolina area,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: now you know, you know that isn't extreme now Todd
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  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, California and Colombia, South Carolina. Now I know
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  Speaker 1: because I came from fit Forth, which is a which
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: is the inner city. Six sisters, two brothers, to bedroom,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: shotgun house. Father was truck driver. Mom graduated from high school,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: didn't pursue college. So I understand an atmosphere there doesn't
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: uh play well to opportunity, but opportunity does present itself
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: and you were able to take it to take advantage
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: of You told us about the short bus. You told
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: us about the study. How did the evolution come of Todd?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: T J. Johnson? Hey man? You know? So for me,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: I was always uh uh, someone that wanted more than
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: what my environment had in my environment. I wasn't happy
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: in my environment. I wasn't satisfied with my environment. And
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are that way. But
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: I think the difference for people that leave their environment
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: that they decide that there's something more somewhere else, there's
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: something more in a different lifestyle, even though they haven't
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: experienced in first hand, they haven't seen it. And so
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: for me, I decided that I just wanted something different,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: and uh, at a very young age, and again not
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: knowing where that looked like, you know, not knowing where
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: that would be. Um. I played basketball in high school
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: and I thought basketball would get me through college. And
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: I had a very bad car accident when I was
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: between my senior and junior year of high school, and
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: I had amnesia and had problems with my balance and
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: had to be taught my class schedule all over again,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: my being a first Uh, you know, there's people I
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: didn't recognize. Ever. Again, a lot of the stuff came back,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: but some stuff never came back. But what what remains
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  Speaker 1: said fast was the fact that that I wanted or
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: but I couldn't use basketball to get me out of
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: my situation. So I figured I'd go off to college
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, can I just be transparent
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: with you here, rash money making conversations, Please do so, man,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you know. I visited a couple
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: of colleges. I think I went to William and Mary
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: College and I went to Hampton You And to visit.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: And when I went to Hampton You, I saw so
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: many beautiful sisters at Hampton You I was like, oh
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: my god, if I go to the school, there's no
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: way I'm gonna get out of college. I'm just not
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: gonna get out of Coupe. I'm gonna be get so
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: distracted and it it ain't gonna happen. So I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I cannot go to Hampton you because
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: I could see myself I had I would always create
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: this vision for my life. Right, So when I visited,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: happen to you thinking, wait a minute, I'm not you know,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't have everything together around basketball. So
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: if I'm struggling, I'm gonna be driving a little I
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: don't know. I have to buy uh six hundred dollar
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: car and I'm gonna have to work like at my
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: McDonald's and try to go to college and try not
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: to be distracted by all the pretty girls. I knew
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna work. I didn't think that I was
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: going to be successful in that situation. So I ended
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: up going in the military. And I went in the
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: military when I was seventeen years old, and that was
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: the thing that got me away from home. But when
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  Speaker 1: I knew is I had to leave Pokemo Casey, South
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: Carolina and if I left Pokemo Casey, South Carolina, I
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  Speaker 1: knew there was gonna be more opportunity outside of the
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: area than there was inside. So I was willing to
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: go find something different. I'm gonna can't be transparent with
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: you now. Let me just tell your story. But I
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: graduated from University Houston. I when I fifteen years old,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: I had my father was a truck driver. My first
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: job he sent me to uh Just Truck Company and
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: uh I was unloading boxes. So my mentors were my
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: early mentors of guys who unloaded boxes and drove forklifts.
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  Speaker 1: So despite the high grades, when I got graduated from
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: high school, I wanted to be a forkliff driver. That's
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: what I wanted to be. And guess when I graduate
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: high school, I became a forklift driver. It was happy.
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  Speaker 1: And then uh then, fortunately for me, I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what I was doing and I dropped the box on
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: a young man's hand, broken and they fired me. And
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: so I went over the University of Houston, where I
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: eventually graduated. And when I eventually attended and I saw
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: those same beautiful women that you saw at the university.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: It was Wednesday noontime, neon time, not now out that
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: inspired MEDJ to enroll in college, that that inspired that
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: that visit to that that new time on a Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: at the U. See that's what they called the university
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  Speaker 1: Senate called it. Do you see got me and rolled
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: at the University Houston and made me get my math degree.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: So we all had levels of inspiration. So I was
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: not I was not taking aback by when I saw.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to see how to get closer. Uh.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: And that's how life is for for for us. You know,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: we have these different ventures that we we encounter and
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: they always affect us different ways. And when I hear
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: your story, that's why I want to hear the story,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: because the story feeds different information when it's when it's uh,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: when it's presented to different people, and when you how
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: we achieve those different levels of success is what builds
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: us out and makes us successful overall and allows our
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: dreams to come true. Because like you, I am a
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: dreamer too. I just I would look at TV t
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  Speaker 1: J and I'll go, Wow, could I do that? And
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: I would tell you this man, honest letting I tell people,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: I pretty much have done most of the things I've
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: dreamed of in my life as a kid, and and
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: and I never when people hear that, they go, who
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: you mean? I said, well, you know, when I saw it,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't know how I was going to get there.
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  Speaker 1: But I knew hard work was involved. I knew not
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: sitting on the sofa was not an option t J.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: I knew that I had to be able to have
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: people around me, they believed in me, and all those
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: things that played this self out with me ever since
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: I've been eighteen years old. What was my problem was
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't respect the process. In other words, I didn't
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: accept the responsibility that God gives us these gifts. And
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: when they when these things start happening to you, don't
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: don't trivialize it, don't realize to realize that it's happening
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: because you have a unique talent. And that's and once
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: I accepted the fact that I have a unique I
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: had a unique talent, and these things are happening because
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: of what I can accomplish and who I am, the
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: success came my way at a very fast rate. And
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: I understood the pattern that I had to maintain, the
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: consistency I had to maintain to be successful. And when
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: I did my research on you. You your life tells
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: a very similar story. Correct, Yeah, for sure, for sure,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: for sure, I think. But you know, and you talk
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: into me just now and telling me a little bit
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: more about your story. One of the things that jumped
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: out at me is just being self aware. You know,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: you saw those women. You were like, look this is
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: far me. I gotta get blokes when I told im
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: I'm so weak, I gotta move away. When when just
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: when you you know, when you were like, um, you said, look, uh,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: cheap my thing. But now I want to do something different.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: For me, I knew like going in the military, right
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: was the way to being a different place, to see
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: some different things. And and you know, I started out
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: like doing a job that was like like cheap punch operator.
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  Speaker 1: I was like typing in stuff right that that you know,
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• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: sometimes people try to put them in that same lane
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  Speaker 1: maybe not because they approached their thought process of being
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  Speaker 1: I thought press would be I thought process of being
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  Speaker 1: successful is different, and we have to be respected along
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  Speaker 1: the finish line. You may be the tortus, I may
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• 1:46:40
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  Speaker 1: I think most of us do, no matter where we are, uh,
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  Speaker 1: of success in the entrepreneurial or the business or the
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  Speaker 1: to get a vision for success. Yeah, so there's levels
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  Speaker 1: to it, right in terms of success that you've already mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: sort of uh version of that for me is that
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  Speaker 1: So and the degree that you have the ability to
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  Speaker 1: as has that over over, you know, just simply surviving. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: to the degree that I can do that, I'm successful.
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  Speaker 1: And so there's a few levers when you look at that.
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  Speaker 1: There's the happiness level. How happy am I doing what
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  Speaker 1: I do and what my life and and what my
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  Speaker 1: life looks like, how much of an impact and I'm making?
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's important because we want to be
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  Speaker 1: able to do that. The other one is how much
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  Speaker 1: abundance do I have? You know a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: people want to think about success, I want to take
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  Speaker 1: that out of it, right, And I'm like, no, man,
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  Speaker 1: the levels that are important to move up the scale
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  Speaker 1: and from a business standpoint, in a business mindset. You
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  Speaker 1: know when I when I listened to you talk and
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  Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for calling the show money
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  Speaker 1: making conversation and sharing your story and your inspiration. And
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  Speaker 1: I I've had an amazing life when I look at
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  Speaker 1: success coach? And that's something I cannot do. That's something
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  Speaker 1: And what what makes you different? What? What? What? What? What? When?
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  Speaker 1: life and they fell in business. How do you how
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  Speaker 1: do you affect people like that and get them going
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  Speaker 1: they need, you know. So So those are some of
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  Speaker 1: the things, man, know that that was all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: But those are some of the things that that that
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  Speaker 1: I do to help people move along the state focus
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  Speaker 1: and build their businesses. Awesome, Todd, How can we reach
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  Speaker 1: out to you? What the social email? Uh? Website? How
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  Speaker 1: can we reach you? How can we find you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: On on social media it's uh t J billionaire mentor
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram, on Facebook, um even on on YouTube and uh.
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  Speaker 1: For email it's Todd l d d AT and hot
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  Speaker 1: pursuit dot Com. That's uh, I don't know how you
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  Speaker 1: do it. It's and is then Nancy and then hot
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  Speaker 1: pursuit dot com. That's that's what I got on my
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  Speaker 1: paper small in hot pursuit dot Com. Just the website.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Todd, can you come back on
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  Speaker 1: my show? May? I've enjoyed this. You know. I love
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  Speaker 1: talking to you because we you know, I'm from Houston,
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  Speaker 1: you're from South Carolina where Texas and talk. We both
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  Speaker 1: from the South. Now we both have different journeys, but
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  Speaker 1: I love the story we tell because it's very similar
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  Speaker 1: and I approach it just different decisions we made at
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  Speaker 1: different moments that we would ask to make a decision,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what success is all about. And I also
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  Speaker 1: love the fact that you made a statement about that
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  Speaker 1: person who just couln't see a way to get past
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  Speaker 1: the bottom line. This year, I brought a young lady
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  Speaker 1: into my life, Angel Rich. She was just working on
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  Speaker 1: my brand and she said, Richean, you need to have
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  Speaker 1: a YouTube channel for money making conversation. I said, what's audio?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that makes any sense at all. She said,
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  Speaker 1: you you you would really excel at that, and your
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  Speaker 1: brand will hit a younger demo. And it was the
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  Speaker 1: same story. She just had to tell it to me
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  Speaker 1: different where. I launched it in February and I have
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  Speaker 1: to thirty seven thousand subscribers of YouTube and my age
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  Speaker 1: demo was eighteen and forty four eight percent of them
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  Speaker 1: or in that age range. So it made my my
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  Speaker 1: age demo just went way low. Six of my followers
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  Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel or female. So when you made
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  Speaker 1: that statement, I found it very relatable. Sometimes you have
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  Speaker 1: to talk to successful people a different way to let
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  Speaker 1: them understand the opportunity is possible. They just have to
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  Speaker 1: change the way they think. That's all you do, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what you're doing, and it makes you such an
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  Speaker 1: amazing success as a success coach. And I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to share that moment and say I appreciate how you
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  Speaker 1: go about what you do because it happened to me
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  Speaker 1: and it made a difference in my life. It made
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  Speaker 1: a difference in my brand and made a difference in
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  Speaker 1: my income. I appreciate that. Man, that's awesome, And let
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  Speaker 1: me say this to you, thank you for what you've
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  Speaker 1: done what you do. People don't know about people like you,
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  Speaker 1: and not enough people know about people like you, like
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  Speaker 1: my first name. More people should know your first name,
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  Speaker 1: especially people in terms of you know, you're you're the
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  Speaker 1: you're the way makers, maker behind the brand, and people
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  Speaker 1: don't know the strategy and the thought and nuance that
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  Speaker 1: goes into that stuff. So I appreciate what you've done,
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  Speaker 1: and we've done for a long time for for the
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  Speaker 1: speeds of the world and other people. So I appreciate that, man,
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  Speaker 1: and uh and uh. At some point, I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to get your your your restaurant list for the different
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  Speaker 1: areas of the country. Absolutely, you're absolutely, absolutely we're gonna talk, man.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I gotta go out in l A
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  Speaker 1: coming up because of doing some productions out there, some
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  Speaker 1: television ideas and concepts are coming out there, so I
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  Speaker 1: may be out there next month, so I'll definitely connect
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  Speaker 1: with you, man while I'm out there, just to talk. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I just love fascinating people. I find
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  Speaker 1: you'd be a very fascinating person, a very articulate person
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  Speaker 1: about what it means to be successful. I've told people
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  Speaker 1: many times sometimes success is not defining dollars is what
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  Speaker 1: you can accomplish, and that's how I shot. But people
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  Speaker 1: say I said, I I define my success when I
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  Speaker 1: go in the store. If I go in there and
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  Speaker 1: say I want that and I can pick it up
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  Speaker 1: and I can walk out of the store with it,
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  Speaker 1: then guess what That's the success level that I've achieved
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do that, not how much it
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  Speaker 1: costs that I could actually go in there and say
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  Speaker 1: I want that I want with several of those shoes
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  Speaker 1: or that that Taylor shoes or that particular car, that house.
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  Speaker 1: And so you don't define it. Whether it's a million
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  Speaker 1: or five million, is defined on if you can if
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  Speaker 1: you can achieve it, and that's what you do as
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  Speaker 1: a success coach, and keep doing what you're doing. And
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  Speaker 1: you have a fan in me Todd. Okay, thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much for Sean, and we talked to it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you'll be safe out there and Beverly Hills man, and
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