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- Todd: Welcome everyone to Beers with Jesus, Todd's World. We're back after after a week off. And and weirdly for us, we're doing beers with we're recording beers with Jesus early, and then we're gonna record news tomorrow. So ⁓ typically we're we're doing that the other way. Carrie's with me. How's it going, Carrie? Welcome. It's gonna be almost 4th of July when this drops. So Yo, it's Carrie: Hello. I'm gonna say happy fourth of July to everyone 'cause it's gonna be like Yeah. Woo. Todd: We're gonna this is gonna drop right before the fourth of July weekend. So everyone have a fabulous Fourth of July weekend. Is this the we'll probably talk a little on news about this? Is this the 250 thing that's going on? Is that this like 4th of July, like right now? Okay. But Trump didn't have his rally in in speech and stuff yet, right? I heard something the other day that made me think, did I miss that? How could I have missed that? Anyway. Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. Yes. America is two hundred and fifty years old. No. I wonder if Jesus is gonna say anything about two hundred and fifty years. No, it's ⁓ yeah. So it's gonna happen this week. Mm-hmm. Todd: Well happy well have a great fourth of July, guys. Enjoy the ⁓ enjoy the holiday, enjoy the weekend. Drink lots of beer, beers with Jesus. I'm hey, I'm toasting. Carrie's recovering today. She had all her beers with Jesus last night. ⁓ Yo, it's Carrie: All week. Todd: So we we were out. I had my my daughter's open house we missed last week. ⁓ so glad to have everybody back. Thanks for for joining us again. The my daughter's open house went fabulously. Well, I've had two. My my daughter and stepdaughter. I think la the the last one was my stepdaughter's. And ⁓ so yeah, we had our last two and it's been a flurry and now everything's done and they're moving on. They're they're gonna move on to their Yo, it's Carrie: Yay, congratulations. I know. Todd: ⁓ respective careers or college or gap years or whatever they're gonna do. Yeah, it doesn't bother me very much. I'm I'm good with it. I mean, I enjoyed it, you know? So and they all did great. All my kids have always, you know, done well in school and everything. So yeah. It's exciting, right? Yo, it's Carrie: Their next their next steps isn't that wild That's good. That's good. I'm excited for them. Isn't that wonderful? Lots to be proud about. Yeah, totally. Todd: And we didn't have any floods while we were gone. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Right. I know we gave we gave that one a some time to just to simmer. Todd: This week we are in chapter eight of Genesis. On Beers with Jesus, guys, we just go through the stories of the Bible, if you're new. and we hope that you'll subscribe, that you'll join us, because you'll probably listen to this whole thing and you'll be riveted and you'll think that's the greatest thing I've ever heard. 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But yeah, thank you for being here and please share with ⁓ share with a friend after you realize how riveting we are. Just share with a couple of friends. Todd: Ha ha ha ha. ⁓ So this, so we're going through Genesis. We started out Bears with Jesus. We went through the book of Mark, then we went through the book of Acts. Both fabulous. Quite honestly, you should go back and listen to everyone. But I realize that's a big ask. But for today, you're in Genesis 8 with us, and we are kind of smack dab in the middle of Noah's flood, is exactly where we're at. Yeah. We read the chapter and then we go through it. The last verse of chapter seven that we ended on last week. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. No, we left him floating for a while. Yeah. Mm. Todd: Said the flood waters took over for 150 days, and that was where we left Noah and family and the animals holding on for dear life, just floating on the watery chaos. And now we're in chapter eight. I'm reading today, so I'm just gonna read through chapter, and we're gonna talk about it, see what the story's all about. So this is Genesis eight in the message. Yo, it's Carrie: Hundred and fifty days. That is wild. All right. Okay. Can't wait. Todd: So ⁓ after the floodwaters took over for a hundred and fifty days, it says, Then God turned his attention to Noah and all the wild animals and farm animals with him on the ship. God caused the wind to blow, and the floodwaters began to go down. The underground springs were shut off, the windows of heaven closed, and the rain quit. God turned off the sprinklers. Well, that's not in the message. Not even the message says that, but it's true. Yo, it's Carrie: I was gonna say, did you just read that? Todd: Inch by inch, the water lowered. After 150 days, the worst was over. On the seventh day of the seventh month, the ship landed on the Ararat Mountain Range. The water kept going down until the tenth month. On the first day of the tenth month, the tops of the mountains came into view. Imagine just being excited to see some kind of anything but water. ⁓ Yo, it's Carrie: Anything but yeah. Anything on the horizon. Todd: ⁓ after forty days Noah opened the window that he had built into the ship. He sent out a raven, it flew back and forth waiting for the flood waters to dry up. Then he sent a dove to check on the flood conditions, but it couldn't even find a place to perch. Water still covered the earth. Noah reached out and caught it and brought it back into the ship. He waited seven more days and sent out the dove again. It came back in the evening and With a freshly picked olive leaf in its beak. Noah knew then that the flood was about finished. He waited another seven days and sent the dove out a third time. This time it didn't come back. In the six hundred first year of Noah's life, on the first day of the first month, the flood had dried up. Noah opened the hatch of the ship and saw dry ground. By the twenty-seventh day of the second month the earth was entirely dry. God spoke to Noah, leave the ship, you and your wife, and your sons and your sons' wives, and take all the animals with you. The whole menagerie of birds and mammals and crawling creatures, all that swarming extravagance of life, so they can reproduce and flourish on the earth. Noah disembarked with his sons and wife and his son with his sons and wife and his sons' wives, then all the animals, crawling creatures, birds, every creature on the face of the earth left the ship family by family. That's awfully orderly for animals. Noah built an altar to God. He selected clean animals and birds from every species and offered them as burnt offerings on the altar. Yo, it's Carrie: There's some something supernatural happening there. Todd: God smelled the sweet fragrance and thought to himself I'll never again curse the ground because of people. I know they have this bent toward evil from an early age, but I'll never again kill off every living thing as I've just done. For as long as the earth last, planting and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never stop. That's it. Yo, it's Carrie: Hmm. For as long as Earth lasts. Todd: For as long as Earth lasts. What do you think, Carrie? Yo, it's Carrie: Interesting. Okay. Well, this is I I'm trying to figure out how he did. They really did. It was long. How long was this? Todd: He got through it. They got through it. They they were on the arc for pushing a year, I would say. Because it's about five months where the earth's just it the chaos of the flood took over, the floodwaters took over for about 150 days. So about five months. And at that point, it's the rain. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Mm-hmm. Okay. Todd: The o you know the the springs, the underground springs, everything the the firmament above is just dropping everything, it's just it's just chaos. And God is in the process of destroying the world through the chaos, and yet in the midst of this chaos, this well, it's a big boat, but really when you consider when you compare it to the whole world, it's pretty small. And Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: It's floating in the middle of this watery chaos. And for five months, Noah and his wife and his sons and their wives and the animals were kind of just holding on for dear life. I mean, they had to get on with life. They had to to clean up after the animals and feed things and you know, take care of things. But like there was no sign, I mean, it was just chaos outside. That's a long time. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Yeah. Well, chaos and I also think then just probably quiet. Just like nothing happening out there. If it's just water it just it would be like nothing. Todd: Well, I I picture that first five months just like constant storms. You know what I mean? But once that happens, see what it says is that the floodwaters took over for 150 days, and then God turned his attention to Noah. It's like and I and I don't think it's that God forgot about Noah. I don't think that's a point. But but God's God's wiping the slate clean, and that wiping of this ginormous slate. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay, sure. Mm-hmm. No, no. Yeah, it's kinda like Mm-hmm. Todd: Took about 150 days. And then he turns his attention back to Noah and the animals, and and he and then he causes the wind to blow, and the flood waters begin to go down, and the springs are shut off, and the windows of heaven closed, and the rain quit. And then that's where I think you get that silence, that that kind of quiet descending. You know what I mean? And then you got another five months of watching this water go down inch by inch, or not really what's like watching paint dry. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: Like it's kind of imperceptible. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Right. Until yeah, until until well and I don't know if they saw yeah, I don't know if they saw it. Mm-hmm. Todd: You know? Until after a while, after another five months, the mountains come into view. And that's kind of kind of their first glimmer of hope. You know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Do they see it or is it just described for us? Todd: Well, that's what it says. It says ⁓ says the water kept going down until the tenth month. On the first day of the tenth month the tops of the mountains came into view. And so that's the first sign that Noah and the family have that there is something something's left over. They got Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, the mountains. I mean you just think of the volume of water. It's wild to think of. Todd: Well and it's real possible if if you if you were to dig into the science and the geology of what something like this would cause, that many of the mountain ranges that we have today were caused by the flood. You know, the the tectonic plates coming together, everything that that that would result from this kind of ⁓ just a just a ⁓ worldwide chaos, you know, a chaotic kind of disaster. That a lot of the mountains wouldn't have been there before. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. ⁓ okay. Okay. Cat the catastrophic, yeah. Todd: The this is a new world that they're embarking on. They're now God's bringing ⁓ from the old world. But what they're what they're gonna open the the the hatch of the ark onto is a world none of them have ever seen before. I mean, that's how much it would change based on this kind of a of a of a disaster happening. You know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I imagine it would be very green. Todd: Yeah. Probably would be. That's a good point. And so I just I I I really have ⁓ I I I was impressed with the fact that Noah and the animals have just ridden this thing out and then I was thinking of it a as a metaphor for the storms that kind of come into our lives. You know what mean? And Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: I think that that's kind of what happens is that God'll got God brings the storms and then he's in the process in the midst of the storm of drowning most of what we knew of the old world. The the the the worlds that we lived in could be the worlds of our mind, our paradigms, so many things we take for granted. You know, w when we hit a storm, it could be we were talking about cancer earlier, it could be cancer. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: Could be health, could be financial, could be lots of different things, could be spiritual storm. But when you get into the midst of the storm, it does seem like for the first for for a long time, for the first part of the storm, you're just kind of holding on, like you're just surviving. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. It's survival mode. Absolutely. Todd: But then it does seem like the shift usually comes, and then we think, okay, maybe I'm out of it. And then we get to wait just as long on the next side as things inch by inch the waters start to recede and we start to get a feel for what our new world is going to look like, for what's left, what's changed. You know what I mean? All these different things, but they come into focus slowly. Does that make sense? And we're we're just kinda Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes, totally. Todd: We're we're kind of becoming somewhat familiar with this new world and we're wondering how long we're gonna have to wait to get our legs under us again, to to find dry ground that we can stand on, you know? Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Absolutely. I was just thinking about this concept with ⁓ in terms of grief. You know, you first lose somebody, you're just you're just in survival mode. And then, like you just said, then you just get an get a chance to look at what that new world is like. And you're you know, you're figuring out how to exist ⁓ in that. And it's I feel like it's the same thing. Like the that's like the timing of it. Todd: Mm-hmm. It is. I think it's very similar. I think that grief is a is in those stages of grief represent kind of how we deal with the storms in our life. Cause certainly there's shock. I mean whether it's grief I mean whether somebody dies or not, you know, if you get the cancer diagnosis comes with a shock. Yo, it's Carrie: It's almost exactly that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Sho like shock and denial kind of. You're just like, No way. Todd: Yeah. And then eventually you move to some sort of acceptance. I don't even know all the stages of grief. So many people in my family have died and I still don't know the stages of grief. Maybe Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. You're like, I'm winging it. I'm winging it. I'm feeling my feelings, whatever they are. Yeah. Todd: But yeah, I think you're right. I think it's a lot like that. And I think this this gives us a good example of what God does when he's kind of starting over. And that's what he does a lot of times in our lives. Is is he'll bring us to a point where he's where he's gonna begin again. He's gonna kinda wash everything out and and kind of start fresh. I think that's generally when when we kind of turn back to him from Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: From a season of maybe rebellion or or running away or whatever. You know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Sure. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think you're right. Why do you think, Todd, why do you think he destroyed all the the animals? Like why was it necessary? You know what I mean? I mean this is very this is destruction in an extremely dramatic manner. And God didn't take issue with the animals, I don't believe. Todd: Mm-hmm. Right. Yo, it's Carrie: I j I mean he had an issue with the people and we talked about like, you know, the evil that was was ⁓ in part of their culture at that time. But why do you think the animals had to be wiped out? Todd: Well, I don't know if the animal ⁓ I don't know if the if the if ⁓ if the animals present any more of a of a problem than all of nature being wiped out. You know what I mean? Like Yo, it's Carrie: Like, do you have any theories? Right. Yeah, I mean that's a good point. But like he didn't you know, he didn't bring plants onto you know on that kind of thing. Todd: No. Clearly he thought those would ⁓ or I say he thought. He knew. We're talking about God. I know. God was like, ⁓ that probably be alright. No, I think that I I think that man as as the as the manager, kind of the the steward of creation, I think that that that it can cut both ways. So when God's Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Like I think the plants will make it. ⁓ Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: Blessing mankind, all of creation partakes in that blessing to some extent. When God's redeeming mankind, all of creation will will partake to some extent in that redemption. And I think that's true of judgment too. I just think we're all inextricably tied together, is what I think. I don't think that see we have this idea, if you think about like the way that. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm, okay. Sure. Todd: materialism and in science kind of looks at things, evolution, let's say. W we w it's been baked into us that for hundreds of billions of years there was animals before there was ever man and this that and and we get these we get this idea of man being kind of later to the program and and and we're just like a we're a parasite on the planet, right? And why can't we just be and I just don't think that that's it's not biblical. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: It's it's biblical that Adam named the animals. God created the Adam the animals in some sense for Adam and for man. You know what I mean? ⁓ for man to manage, for man to look after, and when man doesn't, ⁓ it it it it maybe in a way it's no different than kids who get wrapped up Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: in parents' divorces or bankruptcies or whatever else. It's not necessarily any part any i they they're not directly implicated in anything that caused it. But because their parents are responsible for them, they're wrapped into both the good and the bad. You know what I mean? And I think it might be nothing more than that. ⁓ I don't know. I mean I that that that's a question I guess in the end we'll have to ask God if we're curious. You know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah, I was just curious if you had thought about it. Like why'd the animals have to be a part of this too? ⁓ but interesting. Todd: I guess maybe he thought how else would he do how else would he how's he gonna destroy mankind and all the works and have a full reset without that? I don't know. You know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. He's you know, he's God, he could do anything, so it's just interesting that that this very systematic sort of, you know, way is how he did it. Todd: Yeah. I think it's a I think it is a sign that that that we're that there's more interconnectedness within creation than we realize. And and it's true that mankind is we're responsible. We're the ones that have reason and and that God calls to seek him. He doesn't call the wolves to seek him, right? And we're called to. But I but I think it's a good reminder that we're not the only ones who pay the price. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: For our own feelings. In fact, our kids are. I mean, it could it can widen out in scope all over. You know what I mean? And that's a that's just yeah, it's just kind of what it is. ⁓ I did think that the timing was interesting. That it it it was all God's timing. Like God told Noah when to board the ship and he told him when to leave the ship. Like God has this whole thing planned out. I think that's encouraging too because Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. Mm-hmm. Todd: I think we feel that that's what we're tempted, that's what we need faith for when we're in the middle of a storm, because we're tempted to think we're we've been abandoned by God. Even Jesus. What was Jesus' cry on the cross? My God, my God, why have you abandoned me? And it does talk about God turning his face away, but did God fully abandon Christ? I don't know if he did or if but Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. Todd: He does he also doesn't with us, but we feel like he does. And so to see that to see the Savior, to see God as man feeling that same abandonment that we feel on the cross, I I think that's really powerful. You know? Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Mm. It is. It definitely ⁓ it definitely feels that way. It's very I think it's very easy for someone to believe that while they're struggling with something. Be like, God, why aren't you why aren't you fixing this? Why aren't you snapping your fingers and answering answering my prayers today about all the things that I'm asking for? Yeah. Todd: Well and and don't you think maybe Noah, or if not Noah, maybe Shem or Ham or Jap or certainly one of their wives, like three months in was like I think God's abandoned us. I don't know. He said he's gonna save us, but but what's he gonna save us to? There's nothing outside but chaos. You know? And and I gotta believe that's that's that next faith step. Yo, it's Carrie: ⁓ yeah. Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: So the first faith step with with Noah was to believe God that there was going to be a flood and to build the ark and to and to make all the preparations. And then to get on the ark when God told him to get on it. That's the those are these are the steps of faith he's making. But but once he's in the storm, he has to have he has to find faith that God is going to see him through to the other side. And I think often in in our own storms, in our own personal storms, we feel like Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: We're not gonna that that's the source of a lot of our stresses. We think we're not gonna make it through this. I know God promised it. And you know, I believe God. And I even say I believe God, but even while I'm saying I believe God, ⁓ I don't know. You know what I mean? Like help my unbelief. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: It's hard not to get emotionally weighed down in the storms. Does that make sense? You think it's true? Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah, completely. I think it's a hundred percent true. It's really tough. and you can even you can even be a faithful person, say every day, I believe, you know, God has a plan and you can still be fearful and have doubts in those struggle times and just think like like you said, ⁓ there are times when you feel like you can't make it through it. And ⁓ Well and guess those that's that's how it manifests in a faithful person. That that's how the doubting manifests. You think, I can't do this And it's like, Exactly. You you're not supposed to be able right, you're not supposed to be able to do this. Todd: You can't. This is where I'm gonna root out some of that willful independence. I mean God. Where God's gonna root out some of that willful independence and teach us dependence. Teach us humility. You know, something I read this week. It was ⁓ this might seem like a stretch for people with the flood, but ⁓ I thought it made sense. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. I like it. Todd: It's Proverbs. Well, and I actually have a fair amount of scripture different scriptures we can kind go through that that I felt like made some good points. But this is Proverbs fifteen. It's the very last verse, verse thirty-three. And I and I I'll tell you the truth. In my in my own personal Bible reading, I re tend to read through books of the Bible, but there's two books that I make exceptions on in what I and they're both Proverbs and Psalms. And what I do is on if I'm like a if I have a week between Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Mm-hmm. Okay. Todd: If I have a I'll take like a week between books and I'll just do like seven Proverbs or I'll do seven Psalms and and then it it helps break it up for me. You know what I mean? Because I like the stories, neither one of those are stories. They're still really good, but but they're not quite as they don't flow like a series, you know, or like a story does. So this is Psalm or Proverbs 1533. It says, Fear of God is a school in skilled living. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Yeah. They're really good, but it's yeah, they're they're structured differently. Right. Yeah. They're like well, there's ⁓ Todd: First you learn humility, then you experience glory. And I thought I think that was probably true for Noah. Like the fear of God, faith, it was it was a school in skilled living for Noah. And first, what came first was the building of the Ark and then the holding on for dear life. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: And then the waiting. But but the faith was that even through that long period of learning humility, I think dependence is a is a fair word to kind of compare to humility. Learning you can't do it yourself. Sometimes the only way to learn that is to come all the way to the very bottom and end of yourself. And that's a really a really painful, really long. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Mm. Todd: Journ ⁓ you know, trip, journey, whatever you wanna call it. And Yo, it's Carrie: Right. It's a it's it can be a dark place to be. Todd: Yeah. I think it helps maybe when you're in those times, at least it helped me to think of it, that if God's gonna first teach us humility, like I thought about about my own kind of testimony, my own path, and I thought that there was nearly forty years, I would say, where it took me to finally really kind of turn and give myself to God. And I think forty years is a long time to get swollen up with self will and pride. Probably is gonna take God a while to root that out. You know what I mean? Like maybe maybe I shouldn't be surprised if it takes a decade to learn the humility on the front end. And maybe that's the only maybe that's the only way for God that it's safe then for God to to move us into experiencing glory and blessing. Because at that point there's no danger of us thinking we were the source. You know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Yes. Todd: But it's a long, long road to get there. In my humble opinion. Am I trying to be humble opinion? Sometimes. But I don't know. What do you think about that? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Look at you. Mr. Humility. Ha ha. Yeah. Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. ⁓ Yeah, that it would that it would take a while. Mm-hmm. Todd: There's just stages God's learning through. Like Paul says with contentment, he says that he's learned to be content in whatever state he's in, whether he has much or whether he has little, he's learned to be content. Just like we learn humility. And maybe it's the same kind of thing. You know what I mean? Maybe it takes a while, and the only way you really learn to be content is to not have as much. I think. You know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Right. Yeah. I mean Yeah. So people will say, like, don't pray for patience because if you pray for more patience, your patience will yeah. They'll learn, yeah. You'll get tested. Your patience will be tested constantly. And it's really funny. ⁓ so I feel like it's the same kind of thing. But that dependence, you know, there's a fine line. Steve always used to say, God helps those who help themselves. Todd: God'll give it to you. No. Yo, it's Carrie: Like you can't just sit back, twiddle your thumbs and be like, God's gonna take care of all my my problems. So right, he had to build the ark. He had to Todd: Right. Noah had to feed the animals. He had to clean up their crap. I imagine toss it out into the watery chaos. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. I mean, yeah, there's right. We we definitely play a part in it. So it's hard to know, you know, I think it takes some maturity as people and and maturity in our faith to recognize where where we end, you know, doing our part, but then letting God do his part and accepting his will and being patient about it. Todd: A lot of work. We have to do everything that's in our power. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: And that probably isn't gonna be enough. And then trust God for the rest. Sometimes it's enough. And s I mean and there they're not not in everything do we need a miracle from God. Like you can get up and get a sandwich. Like and you should. It's within your power to do it. Right? You can work, and most of us, most of us, the way God provides when we pray for provision, if we're running through financial hard times or whatever else, most of the time it's gonna be providing through work. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Right. Mm. Todd: Most of the time he's gonna prov provide a way for us to earn some income. Usually money isn't growing on trees. At least I haven't or I don't have the right trees up here in Michigan. I don't know. Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. Yeah. Right. You you Yeah, you're not gonna find a a sack of fifties on your porch. It's it's gonna be an opportunity and you're gonna have to go work hard and right. Todd: What God does in us, He does through us. And it's gonna feel a lot of the time like we're working at it. You know what I mean? As it should, I think. Seek God while he may be found. Knock and the door will be open. Ask. All of those things are are action type things that that we're taking. Like if you want to get to know God, you gotta go after him. Like he's there to be known. But he's not just gonna like Yo, it's Carrie: ⁓ no. Right. Yes. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Mm-hmm. Todd: download it into your brain. You know what I mean? Like you have to put in the work to get to know them. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Yeah, you have to pay attention. You have to pay attention. You have to l be able to listen. Mm-hmm. Todd: Yeah. And to some extent, the only way that you can get to know other people is to is to the extent that we can we can check our own egos at the door. In other words, you we've we've all known those kinds of people who like maybe they'll come over, maybe you'll see them you go out or whatever, and and for the entire three hours, all they talk about is themselves, just nonstop. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And you're like, whoa. But you wonder in something like that. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Right. Todd: Can even God break through that noise in their head or in our heads. You know what I mean? Or yeah, but because I mean we can get so caught up in our own troubles and so wound up that we don't ever even we're never we're never even still enough to know that he is God. You know what I mean? Because we're just like madly swinging, just wildly swinging, hoping we'll make connection with something, but God's like Yo, it's Carrie: You asking can he? Yeah. Of course. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: Just just just so I think it's both. It's that because Jesus says, come to me and rel what I'm Jesus says in Matthew six, what I'm and this is the message, guys, because that's the best. He says in Matthew six, he says, what I'm trying or no, maybe it's Matthew eleven or Matthew ten. It's one of those. If it's ten or eleven, he says, What I'm trying to do here is get you to relax, to not be so preoccupied with getting, so you can respond to God's giving. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. ⁓ yeah. Todd: Like there's part of that too. It's like everything else. It's always a balance. You know, you gotta work for things, but it's not only your work that's gonna do it, and you gotta trust and you gotta obey. And you know what I mean? It's it's it's that constant trying whether we're in a storm, whether we're we're in a phase where we're on the other side of a storm waiting for the waters to subside, or maybe we're fully into blessing at this point in our lives for right now, waiting. Yo, it's Carrie: We talked about this before, right? Mm-hmm. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: For probably the next storm. Then w whatever it is, like we've got to do our best, but at the same time not wear ourselves out. Does that make sense? I think that that because I think people can get just where activity just becomes activity. It's it's it's for no other purpose than activity. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. You just mean like just busyness? Okay. Yeah. Todd: Yeah, people people have a hard time sitting in suffering or sitting in a storm. Not feeling like they're doing something to get themselves out of it. Do you know what I mean? It can be really hard to sit there and learn contentment. Because you feel like you should be working your way out of it. How can you be content and work your way out? You know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Mm-hmm. Todd: I think you can. I think that I think that it's like everything else. It's a balance. You follow you ⁓ maybe the answer the simple answer is just follow Jesus. He showed us how. And that's it, you know. Just keep your eyes on him, go where he leads, trust and obey and and he'll get you he'll get you through the storm. He'll get you through the waiting, you know, through all those things. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Todd: I also thought it was interesting that it the first thing Noah did when when they're off the arc, at least the first thing we're recorded as having done. Yo, it's Carrie: Yes. I didn't remember this. Todd: Is sacrificing some of the very animals that he spent a year caring for and feeding and and and all these things in a world that doesn't have many animals right that second. So it's into the scarcity that he still obeys and sacrifices. And and that sacrifice it says that. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: God smells the sweet fragrance and thought to himself, I'll never again curse the ground because of people. I know they have this bent toward evil from an early age, but I'll never again kill off everything as I've just done. For as long as earth lasts, planting and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never stop. The it's almost it's presented here like God has a change of heart. I understand that God that God doesn't change from a theological standpoint. But we've talked before on Bears with Jesus about how within the context of the story, there's a difference between God, the character in this story, and and God spread out all over over all of eternity. You you understand what I'm saying? Like when he enters this story, to some extent God's playing a character in the drama. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Is that Okay. Todd: And in the drama that he's playing here, we see what looks almost like a change of heart. I don't know if it is a change of heart or if it's the exact same as it is today, but what we see at the end of this chapter is to put it to put it simply, judgment doesn't have the last word. The flood doesn't have the last word. Mercy has the last word. And God says, I'm never doing this again this way. Mercy, I think, has the final say with God. What do you think? Yo, it's Carrie: I think that I don't think what you're saying is wrong. Like I think this can be true at the same time. I feel like God saying this is his way of affirming that this was this was a good move. Like I've I've I've done some I've done yeah. I I made I made the judgment. Yep, this was necessary. And it's also his way I think of saying that it worked. Todd: I agree. It was necessary. Yo, it's Carrie: He knows like everything is new again and it's going to be better than it was. So I feel like he's affirming his choice to do it. Todd: Mm-hmm. Do you think he's also encouraged? We're going to see in chapter nine next week that he gives them a sign that he's not going to destroy the world again, and that sign is a rainbow. And we'll talk about that next week. But ⁓ do you think that it was important for all of mankind that would come after Noah to not live in constant fear that God might wipe out the planet again? Like that's not how we grow. Yo, it's Carrie: ⁓ yeah. Okay. Mm-hmm. Todd: In our faith in God. In other words, if you if you were to compare this to make a direct comparison to salvation, like like Peter does, we talked about two weeks ago. And he talks about how we're saved from the water by the water, the the the arcs floating on top. And so if you if you were to think about it like coming to God, being redeemed, becoming a follower of Christ, we move from there into growth. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. ⁓ right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: But we don't have to live our lives in constant fear of God's judgment, because Jesus has already taken that judgment for us. You know what I mean? Mercy has the final word, and if you're the redeemed of the Lord, it's had the final word in your life. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: And the final word was Jesus. In John, it says, In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was God. And that was the final, the last word. Jesus has the last word on everything. We saw that in another one too, where I said he's going to reign until he r puts all things under his feet. He has the last word on everything. And that's encouraging, I think. I think it fits in a little bit with our ⁓ Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Todd: Some of the things we've talked about with the judgment that the lost face. That we have a hard time seeing judgment or hell as having the final say. Anywhere. Death maybe, although I don't know that God has the final say is the answer. You know what I mean? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. And death means something different to God than it does to us and like, you know, in the context of this conversation. So well Todd: Yeah. But God was destroying the world to remake it. And that's I think that's what He's doing in our lives too, in the storms that we go through. I was I was thinking through multiple different ⁓ people and and or e biblical characters and the storms that they faced. Because when when I s when you start thinking about it, there's so many in the Bible that have faced so many storms. I was thinking of Job. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: Everybody knows the story. Well, don't know if everybody knows the story of Job. But Job was was the one who was was was righteous and and and Satan's up there with the angels and God's like, Have you seen Job? Pretty good guy. And no one's quite like Job. And then Satan says, Yeah, well, you've put a hedge around him. You blessed him crazy. Why wouldn't he praise your name? Take those blessings away, and he'll curse you to your face. And so then comes God a stripping away. God gives Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Not everybody knows. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: In the story, God gives Satan the permission to start stripping things away from Job. He he strips away his wealth, he strips away his kids, kills all his kids. His wife basically leaves him and tells him he should just kill himself because his life is so miserable. He takes away his health at the end. He's taking away everything. And then for something like thirty-five chapters, his he has three friends who come and just tell him the whole time how all this is his fault. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Yeah. Right. He's just like alone and has nothing. Todd: Like that's a he's going back and forth. Most of the book of Job is Job and his friends going back and forth, and Job giving his perspective, and his friends giving theirs and back and forth. And then at the very end, God shows up. And and it's this it great three chapters. It's fabulous. But at the end of it, in Job 42, God's done. He's kind of had his diatribe. Because Job had his. Yo, it's Carrie: I forgot about I forgot about that. It's pretty bad. Todd: against God and then God kind of had his against Job and he said, You think you know everything? Where were you when I created the you know what I mean? He just goes on and on. But I think what he's doing, I think what Job's learning in that is he's learning humility because in Job forty two, it says Job makes a statement that something along the lines of in different translation reads differently, but but they all have the same flavor, which is I'd heard of you before Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: I knew about you before, but I lived on rumors. But now in this storm, I've seen you with my own eyes. Now I've seen you firsthand and that changes everything. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm. Wow. Todd: And even with Noah, ⁓ in Hebrews eleven, the Hall of Faith, Hebrews eleven, seven, by faith Noah built a ship in the middle of dry land. He was warned about something he couldn't see and acted on what he was told. The result, his family was saved. His act of faith drew a sharp line between the evil of the unbelieving world and the rightness of the believing world. As a result, Noah became intimate. with God. Same thing I think that happened with Job. He saw God. He becomes intimate with him. He begin he when when John says in John seventeen that eternal life is to know God, that's what both of them stepped into. Noah went through the flood, Job went through his own storm, but at the end they saw God. And it was worth everything it cost them. Do you know what I mean? What do you think? Yo, it's Carrie: Wow. Right. Well, I I mean, I think that it's it's a really tall it's a really tall order. I can't I can't even I can't even fathom I can't even fathom losing everything. Losing my kids and losing my health and my house and Todd: No, but you've been through storms and you've lost a lot. And it's not comparative. Remember that. Yo, it's Carrie: I right, right. Yeah, exactly. ⁓ Todd: But have you felt like in your own storms in in life that you've gone through that it ⁓ once you've gone through those storms that you've seen God in a way or that you've come to know God in a way that you didn't before the storm? Yo, it's Carrie: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. One hundred percent. Todd: That maybe is the purpose. God Yo, it's Carrie: Might be. When you're in it, you kinda like aren't d yeah. Yeah. Cancer treatment was long enough that there were times during it where like in the middle of it you you felt that way. Yeah, but you also recognize you're like, this is like God's working here. There it was long enough. It was stretched out over time. ⁓ you know, sudden loss of my husband, it was just like I mean, that was just I just felt like my whole Todd: You feel abandoned a little. Yeah. Right. Yo, it's Carrie: world got flipped upside down, you know. Todd: Yeah, and you're probably still sorting through some of that to some extent. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Now enough time has passed and yes, and I see I see things a little differently. It's ⁓ feels like a it feels like a different kind of a storm. But but anyway, but what my point was like when something bad happens that's sudden, like for instance, like the diagnosis day, you're just like I mean, you just feel yeah, you feel like what Todd: Yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: What's happening? What what good could possibly come of this, of this storm? And so in that initial, that first moment, yeah, I don't think I don't think most people feel like, ⁓ you know, can't wait to see what God does that's great through this. but later, yeah, I think we gain perspective. It's, you know, it's not always easy, but I feel I yeah, I feel really right. Todd: It's almost never easy. I don't think easy's part of the gig. Yo, it's Carrie: I it's not a it's not even easy to look at it that way. But I'm surrounded by faithful people and I'm that's a that's a blessing. It does because not that, you know, when I'm was upset people are like, Don't worry about it. God's got this, whatever. It wasn't like that, but I just always knew that with prayer and that it was going to reveal itself. And it does. Todd: Helps a lot. You were like Noah. I mean you you you you believed confidently that God was going to get you to the other side of of this storm and you knew the world would look different. You weren't sure exactly what it would look like, but you were confident that whatever it looked like he was at work and therefore it's okay. 'Cause we can trust him. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yes. Mm-hmm. Right. Yes. You I mean, I kind of feel like you don't have another choice. Todd: Well, the other choices, yeah. Yo, it's Carrie: The other choice is despair. And I I just you know, I can't stay there. I don't know, I just don't feel like it's a ⁓ yeah. Todd: Uh-huh. In a grief observed, C. S. Lewis wrote something along the lines of, It's not it's not that I'm in danger of of coming to not believe in God, but that I feel in danger of coming to believe so many dreadful things about him. Like that's that's that's kinda it, you know? Yo, it's Carrie: ⁓ yeah, there you go. Yes. yeah, that's I was trying to I was trying to look up something that you made me think of. ⁓ so what about you? ⁓ have you felt in your own challenges, like how how long does it take before you can break out of the moment the in the Todd: I don't know. I'd like to know. I would like to know. I don't know. I I think that Yo, it's Carrie: Initial The initial despair. You'd like to know Yeah. Todd: I think that what I've discovered is that maybe I'm starting to discover. I shouldn't say I've discovered, but I think I'm starting to learn is that God's timing I can always trust his timing even though I always feel like I like he's wrong. I know that's not right, I'm just saying. I just Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Such a process. ⁓ You're like God, if you could just Yeah. If you could just pay attention to my timeline, this will go so much better. Todd: Be a lot easier on me down here if you would just listen. But but ⁓ you know, you feel that, but I think I think that I've that I'm learning to trust his his timing and and his just trust him that he's got it. And to and to depend. That's I think the other thing is it's really to move from from a spirit of independence to a spirit of dependence is ⁓ Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: Well it's difficult, you know? It's just it's just hard. It's like it's like in the Chronicles of Narnia, there was a kid who had turned into a dragon because he was such a bad little kid. And then Aslan comes and starts like tearing off all his dragon scales. And he finds and he finds Eustace, I think is the kid under there. And and it's painful. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. ⁓ right. The scales and it's painful. Yeah. That's right. And it's really painful. Mm-hmm. Todd: It's really painful, this remaking. And I think that's true for all of us. That it's it's hard. It's like Jesus is offensive. We talk about that all the time, too. I think by design, I think he's so offensive because we're so swollen with ourselves. We just are there's so much self-will, and we don't even recognize it. I think it's so much a part of us sometimes. And so, yeah, I think that he Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Right. Like we cling to it. Todd: What God's doing for us hurts because it just it's it's it's everything that we've we've kind of bound ourselves to. You know what I mean? I know I use a lot of C. S. Lewis lines. It's because I read so much C. S. Lewis and I have read so much of my life, so my a lot of my my brain often thinks in C. S. Lewis lines. It just does. It kind of re Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. He's ⁓ yeah, he's he's still good. That's awesome. He's all you he's you always make him relevant too. Let's hear it. Mm-hmm. Todd: It runs in those currents. ⁓ but ⁓ one thing that he says, I think it's in the problem of pain. He says, God has something to give us, but our hands are full. So in grace, in love, in mercy, he empties our hands so that we can take what he has to give us. But man, that emptying's painful, I think. And I don't I don't Yo, it's Carrie: ⁓ yeah. Right. Todd: I just d I think it always is. I d I don't think there's any other way. Go. Yo, it's Carrie: Yeah. I did I did find what I was looking for. It's in ⁓ first Peter chapter one and verse six, he says, I know how great this makes you feel, even though you have to put up with every kind of aggravation in the meantime. Pure gold put in fire comes out of it proved pure. Genuine faith put through this suffering comes out proved genuine. And and when I was looking Todd: ⁓ good. Yo, it's Carrie: When I was looking for it, I I looked at the very beginning of First Peter. In the very beginning, this is so good. I just have to share this too. He says he's talking about he's writing to exiles scattered to the four winds. No one not one is missing, not one forgotten. God the Father has his eye on each of you and has determined by the work of the Spirit to keep you obedient through the sacrifice of Jesus. May everything good from God be yours. So yeah, it's so good. Todd: So good. Isn't it in Peter two or Second Peter that we talked about a couple of weeks ago where he says he's given everybody space and time to change? Yo, it's Carrie: Thank you. ⁓ did it was it? That's cool. Todd: I think it was in the it is in either first or second Peter. He's not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. He's he's given and I think the message I think it's the same verse, ⁓ translates that as he's giving everyone space and time to change. Yo, it's Carrie: I think I wanna read both of those, first and second Peter. Like for ⁓ you know. Just in myself. Yeah. Are they ⁓ are they like all that good? Got all these like great great nuggets in there. Todd: They're good. I just finished them not very long ago. Yeah. Yeah, it's real good. I always think that, you know, I'm not a big epistle guy. A part of that's my, you know, I'm I'm kind of a contrarian to everybody and everything. And so because most messages and preachers preach on the epistles, I don't like them as much. But it's not just to let you know what I deal with inside my own self. But I ⁓ but I but every time I read them, I love ⁓ Do you know what I mean? Like Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Okay. ⁓ okay. Got it. Sure. Mm. Yeah. So you're resistant to them because of mm hmm. That's cool. Todd: I think of ⁓ as kind of the commentaries and notes on the stories and I just love ⁓ every time I read ⁓ And it's a it's just my own contrarianess that I gotta deal with all the time. Works against me sometimes. Isaiah fifty four, nine and ten in the message. I wanna read this because I think this is good. And I think it really ties in with this passage and with the end where God's like, I'm not gonna do that again. You know what it where where mercy triumphs over judgment. Yo, it's Carrie: That's fine. Todd: Isaiah says, and this is God speaking. So so this is a prophecy, but but it's it's it's it's the words of God. It's it's God narrating kind of. So God says, This exile, he's talking about the the Jews, both in the northern and southern kingdom, ⁓ just constantly disobeyed God, constantly went it ran after idols, all kinds of stuff. God finally exiled both the northern and southern kingdoms. ⁓ I think northern kingdom went off to Assyria. Yo, it's Carrie: Okay. Yeah. Okay. Todd: And the southern kingdom of Judah ⁓ finally was conquered by Babylon, and they're all hauled off to Babylon. And that's where Jeremiah sends them that letter that's so famous, Jeremiah 29, that he's like, I know the plans I have for you. Plans not to abandon you, but care for you, you know, bring you back and the whole thing. That he's writing to these people in exile. Well, this also he's referencing the exile. So he says, This exile is just like the days of Noah for me. Yo, it's Carrie: ⁓ Right. Okay. Todd: Meaning for God. I promised then that the waters of Noah would never again flood the earth. I'm promising now no more anger, no more dressing you down. For even if the mountains walk away and the hills fall to pieces, my love won't walk away from you. My covenant commitment of peace won't fall apart. The God who has compassion on you says so. Yo, it's Carrie: Whoa. Todd: I just think that's so good. And that that I feel like I feel like after the flood we need he we needed the encouragement that this was this wasn't how God was always gonna operate. Judgment wasn't gonna be his final word. Do you know what I mean? That he was gonna make a way. Yo, it's Carrie: It is good. It's so encouraging. Like yeah. Right. ⁓ this is like this is not just encouraging for the day. This is like big picture, eternal encouragement. That's what that sounds like to me. That's beautiful. Todd: Yeah. And then Psalm 36, in the message, of course, it's it's the Psalms are poetry. Psalm 36 has kind of a stanza. So what you get is it is it it reads like kind of like a song. So it says, Thank God, he deserves your thanks, his love never quits. Thank God, thank the God of all gods, his love never quits. So over and over and over and over and over again throughout Psalm 136, he says, His love never quits. Yo, it's Carrie: He says that. Todd: Over and over and over. The flood wasn't God's love quitting, it was God's love at work. Yo, it's Carrie: Nice. Todd: He was remaking a world gone bad. And that was the first. Now he did it that way through the flood, but that's what he's doing through Christ. And through us. That's what his kingdom, when Jesus says the kingdom's here. Like, let his kingdom when in the Lord's Prayer, let your kingdom come in me, let your will be done in me on earth as it is in heaven. Right? Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: That's the kingdom. The kingdom has come. With Jesus he ushered in the kingdom, and his love never quits. Jesus has the final word, and Jesus' final word is mercy. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Forgiveness. Todd: For all who will come. Now you don't have to necessarily. He doesn't make you, he doesn't f lead you by the nose and make you. But he'll do almost everything else. If you just give him like an inch, man, he'll take all he needs. So. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: I thought that was good. I just really enjoyed Yo, it's Carrie: That was good. Thank you for thank you for giving us samplings of it of that. Todd: It's nice to see him on the other side of it. It's nice to see Noah and crew once again firmly on dry ground. Yo, it's Carrie: Yes, yes. Mm-hmm. Well, and I never knew that after the flood God made these declarations, you know, these promises at that time. I d I don't remember that. That's cool. Todd: Yeah. It's like he's reaffirming, he's making this covenant with Noah and with all of humanity that's going to come after Noah. We're going to get the same thing with Abraham. There's the Abrahamic covenant. We're we get the same thing with David. There's the Dav the Davidic covenant, I think it's what it's called. And and so over and over again, but these covenants are kind of reinforcing themselves. It's not that they're different, it's that they're reinforcing God's love for his creation. Yo, it's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. ⁓ okay. Mm-hmm. Todd: And his intention to make that creation perfect again. And it's going to take a lot of time. And sometimes he's got to wipe the slate clean, even in our own lives. And it may be painful. It may be a lot more painful having the dragon ripped out of us than we would like to think. And in the midst of it, we might think we're in hell. I think. But faith comes believing that God. Yo, it's Carrie: Right. Mm. You can. Todd: Has promised us that he's not done. That what he's doing is still at work and that his love never quits. So. Good job, Carrie. Good job. Well, I think we did a pretty good job. Beers of Jesus. What do you think? Look at us go, guys. Now listen, everybody's still who's still with us, which is everyone. I we appreciate it. And I'm glad that you stuck with us long enough to realize that I was right. Yo, it's Carrie: Well said. Good job. Good job to you. Good stuff. I think so too. I love it. Todd: So now you can subscribe, you can tell all your friends, and come back next week. We'll be excited to see you. So, all right, guys. Carrie, thanks for joining me today. Next week, we've got one more chapter on Noah. And then we learn about the rainbow and some other things. And then we're gonna go. We get a family tree. We know how much Carrie loves family trees. Maybe we'll Yo, it's Carrie: Yes, please. Yeah. All right, cool. Thank you. All right. Cool. We Todd: Maybe we'll fold that in with eleven. And then we got the Tower of Babel. That was the one Trevor wanted to come on for. Maybe we'll have him on. Yo, it's Carrie: There you go. ⁓ cool. ⁓ was it? I'm glad you you remember it. That's great. All right. Todd: We'll see if he makes the cut. I'm just kidding, Trevor. All right, guys. Carrie, thanks for joining us. Guys, go to toddsworld.net if you haven't got books on there that are for sale. You should check out Leaves that Blue Away. Witness is great. ⁓ Insurrection. A lot of good books. Check those out. There's merch and stuff too. A lot of ⁓ if you want beers with Jesus merch wildly penny news hour merch or whatever, lots of stuff. So join us there. Follow us here. Yo, it's Carrie: There'd be cool. Thanks for having me. ⁓ yeah. Very fun. Todd: Check us out on YouTube, send us to people. We're the only way we're gonna grow is if you is with your help, basically. It's it's when you love the show so much that you can't stop talking about it to other people. So I'm excited for that. All right, guys. Thanks for joining us. Send us any comments too. We'd love to hear your comments at what you thought of the episode, what you see in Genesis eight, that maybe we missed something. It's hard for me to imagine, but maybe. So Yo, it's Carrie: All right. Thank you. Definitely. Todd: Let us know. Yo, it's Carrie: Share your favorite C.S. Lewis quote in the comments. Todd: That's a good one, Carrie. All right, guys. We're out of here. We will catch you next week. Thanks, Carrie. Yo, it's Carrie: Thanks.