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A Different Donald Trump at RNC · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Day one of the Republican Convention. In the books, Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump makes his first public appearance in see assassination attempt
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Speaker 1: and the first time we've seen a picture with JD.
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Speaker 1: Vance standing next to the president as he is the
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Speaker 1: vice presidential nominee. What we saw yesterday was I think
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Speaker 1: a little bit different Donald Trump. I think that's okay.
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Speaker 1: There have been a lot of people saying Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: looked different night one as he was standing there with
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Speaker 1: Make America Great underneath them Byron Donald's sitting to his
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Speaker 1: left if you're looking at the President, Tucker Carlson as well,
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Speaker 1: sitting to his left. To the right JD. Vance to
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Speaker 1: the right of him was the speaker Mike Johnson at
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Speaker 1: the convention. When Donald Trump made his way into the arena,
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Speaker 1: it was also a little bit different. It was not
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Speaker 1: as loud as you traditionally hear at a Trump rally.
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Speaker 1: It was a very somber but I also think serious
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Speaker 1: moment for Donald Trump. He understands, I think better than anybody,
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Speaker 1: as we saw his ear, his right ear bandaged, that
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Speaker 1: he is an individual who could easily have died. He
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Speaker 1: is someone whose life could have been taken from him
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Speaker 1: because of this would be assassin and he was shot.
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Speaker 1: I want to say, if you have ever been in
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Speaker 1: a shooting, you understand what I'm about to say. Many
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Speaker 1: of you know I've been in a shooting. I had
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Speaker 1: to use a gun to save my life and had
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Speaker 1: two different people pointing a gun at me, one put
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Speaker 1: to the side of my head. And I can tell
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Speaker 1: you that you are different after that, no matter how
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Speaker 1: much you don't want to be different. And what I
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Speaker 1: mean by that is your perspective changes. There's anger that
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Speaker 1: comes in afterwards. We saw instantly Donald Trump be angry
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Speaker 1: when he put his fist up and yelled fight. There's
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Speaker 1: then this realization that you could have died. There is
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Speaker 1: then a significant change and shift to concern that it
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Speaker 1: could happen again. I have a massive amount of compassion
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Speaker 1: for our men and women in uniform that have dealt
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Speaker 1: with PTSD. I didn't understand it till after my shooting,
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Speaker 1: and I cannot imagine what men and women that go
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Speaker 1: through that every single day in Afghanistan, Iraq or anywhere
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Speaker 1: else around the world where they're serving, what they dealt
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Speaker 1: with after nine to eleven, for example, when you're there
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Speaker 1: for a couple of years on multiple tours of duties,
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Speaker 1: and you're being shot at, and you're shooting, and you're
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Speaker 1: seeing your friends get blown up, and you're seeing your
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Speaker 1: friends get shot, and you're seeing that life can end
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Speaker 1: not at a time in or a moment of your choosing,
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Speaker 1: because of evil. Donald Trump seemed different. And I don't
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Speaker 1: think that's a bad thing. But I'm sure Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: is dealing with the fact that and this is that
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Speaker 1: they call it survivor's guilt for reason, Why am I
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Speaker 1: still alive? And why did an innocent man who was
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Speaker 1: just there to support me die? Why are there others
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Speaker 1: that are fighting and are going to have lifelong changes
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Speaker 1: in their recovery in the hospital still who were shot?
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Speaker 1: You think about that rally, and Donald Trump is going
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Speaker 1: to be thinking about that rally. It is going to
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Speaker 1: be on his mind because he knows that there was
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Speaker 1: a kind, loving father who saved his daughter and mother's
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Speaker 1: life and it cost him his own as he was
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Speaker 1: shielding them from the bullets. And I'm sure there's moments
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Speaker 1: where he's gonna be thinking, did I have to do
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Speaker 1: that rally? Should we have done it indoors? Should we
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Speaker 1: have done it differently? Should we have changed the way
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Speaker 1: we did things. That is what any person with a
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Speaker 1: soul is going to be thinking in that moment. And
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Speaker 1: not only is the president having to deal with that,
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Speaker 1: but then there's that concern of is it gonna happen again.
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Speaker 1: I think you also realize, and this has got to
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Speaker 1: be the hardest part for President Trump. There is a
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Speaker 1: confidence with a secret service around you. I've been inside
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Speaker 1: the bubble in my career several times, many times when
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Speaker 1: I was a saga on the Bush campaign, and I've
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Speaker 1: been on stage with the President. It's a different level
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Speaker 1: of Secret Service protection. They are when you're sitting duck
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Speaker 1: up there, but there was a feeling of invincibility that
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Speaker 1: made you just focus on what your job was because
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Speaker 1: you're like, I got them right, Like they're around us,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be fine. I'm not thinking about snipers. I'm
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Speaker 1: not thinking about a lone wolf. I'm not thinking about
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Speaker 1: a shooter in the crowd. And you go up on
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Speaker 1: that stage and you do your job well. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you look at the president last night at the convention,
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Speaker 1: and I mean this, he is a little bit different
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Speaker 1: and that's okay, but I wanted to paint that picture
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Speaker 1: so you understand because while all of this is going on,
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Speaker 1: and when I was involved in my shooting, I think
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Speaker 1: the most frustrating part for me afterwards was the fact
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Speaker 1: that I couldn't control my heart rate when I would
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Speaker 1: be doing things like pumping gas and a car would
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Speaker 1: pull up on the other side of that gas pump
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Speaker 1: and I couldn't see that person, and there's that concern,
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Speaker 1: is that person about to come around the corner and
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Speaker 1: pull a gun on me, or shoot at me, or
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Speaker 1: try to rob me or car jack me. And it
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Speaker 1: wasn't because paranoid. It was a involuntary thing that would happen.
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Speaker 1: It took months and months for that to go away
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Speaker 1: until I felt quote normal again. I the way that
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is dealing with this publicly is unbelievable. But
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Speaker 1: I also want to make it clear we need to
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Speaker 1: make sure we pray for this man. We need to
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Speaker 1: pray for him and his recovery. One tenth of an
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Speaker 1: inch that bullet moves, he doesn't move his head, and
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Speaker 1: those are the things he's thinking about. To look at
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Speaker 1: that prompter again for the statistics, and he would not
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Speaker 1: be with us. And while you're having to deal with
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Speaker 1: all that and look there's also the fallout that comes
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Speaker 1: after this with your family. Everybody wants to talk about
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Speaker 1: this shooting that sees you. Everybody's walking up to you
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Speaker 1: giving you a hug, which is sincere, and saying we're
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Speaker 1: so glad you're alive. But you keep hearing that's a
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Speaker 1: different narrative. It's no longer hey, thank you for fighting
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Speaker 1: for our country. God bless America. It's now we're so
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Speaker 1: thankful you're alive. That is a different conversation he will
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Speaker 1: have with every single per and that he comes into
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Speaker 1: contact with in Milwaukee this week, and it will be
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Speaker 1: the same thing that has said to him for weeks.
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Speaker 1: And I would argue through election day that narrative is
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Speaker 1: not gonna change. But that's a different conversation. I'm glad
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Speaker 1: you're alive. I'm glad you're okay, I'm glad you're alive.
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Speaker 1: Continues to go back to it to remind him that
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Speaker 1: someone tried to kill him. That's a lot to deal
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Speaker 1: with for any person. If there's anybody that can deal
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Speaker 1: with it, it's Donald Trump. He clearly is. But then
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Speaker 1: I want you to think about what's happened since then,
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Speaker 1: that the bubble around you and the Secret Service, the
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Speaker 1: protection that you used to have that made you feel
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Speaker 1: confident to be able to go up on that stage.
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Speaker 1: That is gone right now. I don't care what anybody
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Speaker 1: says in the back of his head, he's like they
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Speaker 1: didn't get the last one. They could screw it up again.
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Speaker 1: That's going to change your demeanor a little bit. And
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Speaker 1: then you've got to do everything else you're doing right now,
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Speaker 1: right go to a convention, run a convention, pick a
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Speaker 1: vice presidential candidate. JD Vance, by the way, put out
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Speaker 1: an amazing simple tweet. It said, just overwhelmed with gratitude.
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Speaker 1: What an honor it is to run alongside President Donald J. Trump.
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Speaker 1: He delivered peace and prosperity once and with your help,
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Speaker 1: He also tweeted out on the fourteenth, two days ago,
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Speaker 1: this dude is just built different and posted the true
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Speaker 1: social post by Donald Trump that said quote, based on
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Speaker 1: yesterday's terrible events, I was going to delay my trip
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Speaker 1: to Wisconsin the Republican National Convention by two days, but
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Speaker 1: have decided that I cannot allow a quote shooter or
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Speaker 1: potential assassin to force change the scheduling or anything else. Therefore,
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Speaker 1: I will be leaving for Milwaukee's schedule at three point
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Speaker 1: thirty pm today. Thank you, Donald J. Trump, and jd
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Speaker 1: Vance wrote this dude is just built different. He absolutely is.
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Speaker 1: He is built different. I want to shift for a
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Speaker 1: moment the converation from what I just described with Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump personally, and I just still think it's incredible what
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Speaker 1: this guy's doing right now. He's built differently. I want
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Speaker 1: to talk about Day two theme at the Republican Convention.
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Speaker 1: The Day two theme is make America Safe Again. That
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Speaker 1: means so many different things, by the way. Right now,
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Speaker 1: it means that we have to focus on the border crisis.
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Speaker 1: We've got to focus on crime in this country. And
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Speaker 1: I think there's going to be a lot of praise
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Speaker 1: for Trump for his resilience after this assassination attempt. Day
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Speaker 1: two at the Convention has a different meaning than when
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Speaker 1: they announced last week what the themes of each day
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Speaker 1: were going to be. No one was thinking that it
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Speaker 1: was going to revolve or they would have to include
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Speaker 1: the possibility of an assassination as part of the make
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Speaker 1: America Safe Again theme. It was gonna be about crime,
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Speaker 1: it was gonna be about the border, it was gonna
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Speaker 1: be about now security, and now it's about the idea
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Speaker 1: that there are people that are trying to kill Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: The Republican National Convention is focusing Day two with a
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Speaker 1: crowded list of events and speakers touching on a broad
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Speaker 1: range with immigration and crime is going to be featured
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Speaker 1: in the most prominent way, and Democrats will not do
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Speaker 1: this at their convention. I do think this is also
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Speaker 1: a moment where you compare and contrast the two. You look, now,
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Speaker 1: Trump is formerly the GOP nominee. It's official. That happened
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Speaker 1: day one. You've got his VP candidate, that's official. Jd Vance.
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Speaker 1: He's there shaking hands with Tucker Carlson Byron Donald's members
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Speaker 1: of his family, Don Junior, who looked proudly at their father,
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Speaker 1: their friend who nearly lost his life two days ago,
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Speaker 1: Like that's big. There are other attendees that are there
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Speaker 1: that I'm sure are like, Okay, we gotta admit it. Now,
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Speaker 1: this guy's built differently. What do I mean by that?
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Speaker 1: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, He was booed when he
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Speaker 1: made his appearance. I understand why people feel like he's
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Speaker 1: not done enough. McConnell, by the way, who blamed Trump
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Speaker 1: for January sixth riot in February twenty twenty one, stating
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Speaker 1: the former president was practically and morally responsible for provoking
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Speaker 1: the events of that day. And you want to know
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Speaker 1: why the guy got booed. McConnell booed at the convention.
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Speaker 1: I am glad that he got booed at the convention.
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Speaker 1: I think it stands. I'm glad he got booed because
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Speaker 1: it's proof that people love Trump and can't stand the
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Speaker 1: bureaucrats that run Washington. There is a very clear divide
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Speaker 1: in our party right now. You're either with the Mitch
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Speaker 1: mcaon Donald's of the world that cow down to the Democrats,
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Speaker 1: don't hold them accountable, allowed them to use law fair
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Speaker 1: to get rid of their candidates and have gotten us
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Speaker 1: to the point where we had this assassination attempt. Or
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Speaker 1: you're on the side with Donald Trump and hardcore conservatives
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Speaker 1: that understand that there is evil in the world. AP
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Speaker 1: put it this way, hosts of speakers will applaud the
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Speaker 1: former president's strength and resilience after the shooting at isrally
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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania day two, and will remind the country that
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Speaker 1: safety and security are a major, major issue. Nicky Hayley, right,
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Speaker 1: we're being told is going to be a part of this.
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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Let's go. I don't think she's
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Speaker 1: going to get some massive welcome. By the way, want
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Speaker 1: to make that very very clear as well. Let's talk
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Speaker 1: real quick about the pick that Donald Trump came up
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Speaker 1: with JD. Vance and the reaction and why so many
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Speaker 1: are excited about JD. Van's Eric Trump in Milwaukee on
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Speaker 1: Fox and Friends talking about Vance, the assassination attempt on
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Speaker 1: his father, and the campaign moving forward.
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Speaker 2: I know you haven't been out and about so far,
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Speaker 2: but the Democrats this morning have unveiled sixteen billboards and
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Speaker 2: one mobile billboard attacking the Trump Advance ticket on abortion
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Speaker 2: and on tax breaks for billionaires in their words, and
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Speaker 2: they're referring to it as the Trump Vance Project twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five project.
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Speaker 3: I can only imagine what Kamala is thinking this morning,
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Speaker 3: because you have a guy who's brilliant Yale Law school,
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Speaker 3: you know, marine incredibly successful business guy. You know, somebody's
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Speaker 3: who's gone into politics and kind of taking it by storm,
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Speaker 3: and a guy who will go into oncoming fire. And
15:46
Speaker 3: there's almost a bad pun to use this morning, but
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Speaker 3: every single time he'll go on every single network, no
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Speaker 3: matter how hostile they are, and just prosecute the case.
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Speaker 3: And you know what's really interesting to see is the
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Speaker 3: chemistry be'stween my father and Advance. He's they like being
16:00
Speaker 3: around each other. They work good together. You know, you
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Speaker 3: just you feel a natural warmth between the two, and
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Speaker 3: I think when you're sitting in the White House together,
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Speaker 3: that's that's incredibly important.
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Speaker 1: Are you pushing for one of them? Because we know
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Speaker 1: Don Junior likes.
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Speaker 4: Him a lot.
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Speaker 3: Listen, I like him at the same time, I like
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Speaker 3: the other people that were being considered, and I like
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Speaker 3: a lot of the people that were being considered before that.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I always saw my father go with
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Speaker 3: your gut. You know, my opinion doesn't necessarily matter. And listen,
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Speaker 3: Advance would be my age. You were very close in age,
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Speaker 3: and he'd definitely be my agem graphigant guy I could
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Speaker 3: be great friends with and everything else. But you know,
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Speaker 3: you have to have that chemistry with people. All the
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Speaker 3: people that made the finalists were incredibly confident people. They
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Speaker 3: could do a great job. But you've got to have
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Speaker 3: that warmth, You've got to have that connection. You've got
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Speaker 3: to be willing to stand next to that person every
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Speaker 3: single day in the trenches for a long period of time,
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Speaker 3: and you know he's going to be excellent.
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Speaker 1: You watch it here. Here's what you said last night
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Speaker 1: to Sean about his background.
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Speaker 5: Can't run on the issue of is the world more
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Speaker 5: peaceful than it was four years ago. Room when Donald
16:58
Speaker 5: Trump left office, You've had real growing peace movements all
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Speaker 5: over the world. The Abraham Accords that showed a real
17:05
Speaker 5: promise of uniting the Israelis with some of the Suiti
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Speaker 5: Arab states.
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Speaker 1: There was no war in Europe.
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Speaker 5: Asia looked like it was under pretty good control. And
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Speaker 5: three years later, it seems like we have a conflict
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Speaker 5: in every corner of the world, and Americans are poorer. Sean,
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Speaker 5: you know a little about my background. I grew up
17:22
Speaker 5: in a poor family. I remember when my grandmother, who
17:25
Speaker 5: raised me, she used to negotiate with the meals on
17:27
Speaker 5: wheels people to give her additional food so that.
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Speaker 4: She could feed me.
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Speaker 5: How does a family like that deal with Joe Biden's
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Speaker 5: grocery price inflation? How does a family like that deal
17:36
Speaker 5: with gasoline and energy price inflation. It's gotten more expensive
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Speaker 5: just to live a good life in this country. Donald
17:43
Speaker 5: Trump and I want to make that better, and we
17:45
Speaker 5: have policies to make it better. Democrats have lies and distortions,
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Speaker 5: and again, I don't think the American people are going
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Speaker 5: to reward that.
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Speaker 6: So I guess the big question is, what do you
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Speaker 6: think was you know, talk to your dad, liked them all.
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Speaker 6: What do you think was the final thing that he
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Speaker 6: heard that really said, this is why I'm going to
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Speaker 6: select this guy again.
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Speaker 3: I think great energy, and I mean necessarily when you
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Speaker 3: see him go on to CNA and he's getting ruthlessly
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Speaker 3: attacked by seven people and he's just kind of dismantling them.
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Speaker 3: I certainly that you know the policies and he's he's
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Speaker 3: been just fantastic, and he does have an amazing story
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Speaker 3: to tell, right from all sides. Great in business, you know,
18:23
Speaker 3: became very kind of successful, great in the political world,
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Speaker 3: you know, military background. I mean, it's somebody who can
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Speaker 3: carry the torch for a very long time.
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Speaker 6: And that's his story, not his parents' story.
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Speaker 1: This is actually his story. He's lived the American dream.
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Speaker 1: Nikki Hayley, she's good. I love by the way, how
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Speaker 1: he said he's going to be able to carry the
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Speaker 1: torch for a very long time. And I think that
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Speaker 1: is something that's so important now, more important now than
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Speaker 1: ever before, is that you pick your vice president to
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Speaker 1: be someone that if something happens to you, they can
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Speaker 1: pick up the torch in like this is this is
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Speaker 1: why we have a vice President, and now the reality
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Speaker 1: of that, I think, unfortunately I said in now more
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Speaker 1: than ever before. I also think there was something else
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Speaker 1: cool that happened that I that I want you to
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Speaker 1: hear because it's just awesome.
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Speaker 7: JD.
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Speaker 1: Vance was on Hannity from the convention, and this is
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Speaker 1: the Donald Trump that I know. Donald Trump. During the
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Speaker 1: VP call, Trump heard Vance's son seven in the background,
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Speaker 1: and I love this because it just shows the human
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Speaker 1: nature of the President of the United States of America.
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Speaker 7: UH.
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Speaker 1: And the Senator was like, you want to know what
19:50
Speaker 1: it's like when you're on the phone with Trump. And
19:52
Speaker 1: this is the story that I've I've told it. I
19:55
Speaker 1: think I've told it to you guys before, and if
19:57
Speaker 1: I haven't, I'll make it quick. But it's a it's
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Speaker 1: a great story. My wife and I we ended up
20:02
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20:06
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20:08
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20:11
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20:17
Speaker 1: was told, this is while he was the president, that
20:21
Speaker 1: we were going to have twins. And I got a
20:25
Speaker 1: phone call from the White House, and when you get
20:26
Speaker 1: a phone call from the White House, it usually comes
20:28
Speaker 1: up to zero two with no other numbers on your phone.
20:30
Speaker 1: And I knew this from my time when I was
20:32
Speaker 1: in the in the you know, working with the Bush administration.
20:35
Speaker 1: And so it came up and I answered, and it
20:37
Speaker 1: was someone that I knew that said, hey, the President
20:39
Speaker 1: would like to talk to you. Can you take the call?
20:41
Speaker 1: And I was like, of course, like all right, well,
20:42
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna call you in just a minute,
20:45
Speaker 1: I think, is how if I remember correctly, I was
20:48
Speaker 1: like sure, And then sure enough, a few minutes later,
20:50
Speaker 1: Donald Trump calls and it's the phone and in classic
20:55
Speaker 1: Trump world, he goes bend. I was like, I'm as
20:59
Speaker 1: president because I'm I'm he goes, he goes, Donald J.
21:02
Speaker 1: Trump here from the Oval Office, which is just such
21:06
Speaker 1: a you know, an arm flex, and it's so classic
21:12
Speaker 1: Trump and and I was like, I'm as president. He goes,
21:16
Speaker 1: I hear, there's he here. There's great news in your family,
21:18
Speaker 1: And I said, yes, sir. He goes, you're having twins.
21:20
Speaker 1: I said, I am, and he said, well we know
21:24
Speaker 1: what they are. I said, yeah, that's going to be boys.
21:27
Speaker 1: And he said he goes, well, you got to name
21:31
Speaker 1: two boys. I was like, yes, sir. He goes, well,
21:33
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say, Donald's a pretty good name.
21:38
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, you're a billionaire mogul. Best case scenario
21:44
Speaker 1: it's presidential. And I'm dying laughing cause it's like and
21:47
Speaker 1: he's not like, it's not like a one line like
21:49
Speaker 1: he sells pitching it, y'all. It was amazing, and I
21:52
Speaker 1: start laughing and I was like, I said, well, I said, sir.
21:55
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like that, you got a
21:57
Speaker 1: whole other person you're gonna have to convince of that name.
22:00
Speaker 1: And he goes, what do you mean? I said, well,
22:02
Speaker 1: it was like my wife. And he goes where is she?
22:05
Speaker 1: And I was like, she's downstairs. He goes, well, go
22:08
Speaker 1: get her and put her on the phone. So I
22:11
Speaker 1: walked downstairs from my office and I'm on the phone
22:14
Speaker 1: and I look at my wife and I was like, hey,
22:16
Speaker 1: I was like, somebody's on the phone for you. And
22:17
Speaker 1: she looks at me weird, like what are you? Like what?
22:20
Speaker 1: Because that's not normal, right? You just call her phone?
22:22
Speaker 1: And I'm like and she's like, who is it? And
22:24
Speaker 1: I'm like, here, I don't tell her, and I handed
22:26
Speaker 1: her the phone and she's holding our oldest son at
22:29
Speaker 1: the time, who was still a baby, and she answers that.
22:33
Speaker 1: She goes hello, and I can hear him. He goes, Anna,
22:36
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump here from the Oval Office, and her
22:39
Speaker 1: face immediately just turns like bright red and she's like, Hi,
22:44
Speaker 1: I'm as president and he doesn't miss it be He's like, look,
22:46
Speaker 1: we got to talk about these names. Your job as
22:50
Speaker 1: a parent is to give your kid a bold name,
22:52
Speaker 1: an important name, a name that significants her name for
22:55
Speaker 1: their whole life. They will be no like he's they
22:58
Speaker 1: will be known by this forever. It'll be for the
23:00
Speaker 1: day they're born to the day they die, and the
23:02
Speaker 1: legacy afterwards. We look, we got to talk about these names.
23:05
Speaker 1: And she's like, uh huh. He's like, look, you got
23:07
Speaker 1: two to name. I'm just saying I think one of
23:09
Speaker 1: them a good name would be Donald. And she starts
23:12
Speaker 1: like laughing and like and she's like, well, miss, you know,
23:15
Speaker 1: well we're thinking you know family names. He's like, well, look,
23:17
Speaker 1: you got two. One can be family one. Can you
23:19
Speaker 1: do middle names? For probably five to six minutes it was,
23:24
Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there sitting back dying laughing because
23:27
Speaker 1: it's just so funny. And I wish I would have
23:30
Speaker 1: had my phone, but she obviously had to take picture
23:32
Speaker 1: of this moment. And I don't have that, but I
23:34
Speaker 1: have the memory. And that is exactly what Donald Trump
23:38
Speaker 1: is like he was and then and then he turned
23:40
Speaker 1: very sincere. He's like, look, I just want to say
23:41
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you guys. And he was like,
23:43
Speaker 1: I'll be praying for your children's health, your health anna,
23:46
Speaker 1: you know, et cetera, and and was very very sincere.
23:50
Speaker 6: Uh.
23:50
Speaker 1: And as soon as they were born, I got a
23:53
Speaker 1: phone call while we were still at the hospital of
23:56
Speaker 1: him saying congratulations about the kids. And and when I
24:01
Speaker 1: was in the Oval for his final say the Union,
24:05
Speaker 1: I was asked to come up and meet with him
24:07
Speaker 1: in the Oval the day before this final stay of
24:09
Speaker 1: the Union. And he immediately at the end, he grabbed me.
24:13
Speaker 1: He's like a right, He's like, let's let's go get
24:14
Speaker 1: some swag. And he signed a hat for both of
24:19
Speaker 1: my sons. And he knew that my young my oldest
24:21
Speaker 1: was you know, he was young young at the time,
24:24
Speaker 1: but he knew he was obsessed with golf. And he
24:27
Speaker 1: grabs some prov ones the presidential seal and signed that
24:29
Speaker 1: for my son as well. And so he goes, look,
24:32
Speaker 1: you can't go home empty handed. And he and he
24:34
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, he's very He goes, look,
24:36
Speaker 1: I know you got three at kids at home. I
24:37
Speaker 1: know this is you know, getting up here, and I
24:39
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And so he signed three different things for
24:42
Speaker 1: my boys.
24:43
Speaker 7: Uh.
24:43
Speaker 1: And it was just one of those in our picture
24:46
Speaker 1: with him at the Oval. I actually have that golf
24:48
Speaker 1: ball in my hand that he signed for my oldest
24:51
Speaker 1: and the other two hats for my other two sons.
24:53
Speaker 1: And that's just who Donald Trump is. And and I
24:57
Speaker 1: go back to that part of the story to tell you,
25:01
Speaker 1: you know, during this VP call, Trump heard Vance's son
25:06
Speaker 1: seven years old in the background and made a very
25:08
Speaker 1: quote special request. And this is just who he is.
25:15
Speaker 1: I want you to hear JD. Vance tell this story
25:19
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump in the moment that he got the
25:22
Speaker 1: phone call from Donald Trump offering him the VP job. Now,
25:27
Speaker 1: this was either going to be a good call or
25:29
Speaker 1: a really bad call. Right, you're just sitting there, you're waiting,
25:33
Speaker 1: and I want you to hear just how kind Donald
25:36
Speaker 1: Trump was with his seven year old son in the background,
25:40
Speaker 1: and I want you to hear this, and then you're
25:43
Speaker 1: gonna hear about who JD. Vance is and the lefts
25:47
Speaker 1: attacks on him and him responding. Take a listen. This
25:49
Speaker 1: is at the convention, his first big interview with Hannity.
25:52
Speaker 8: Further Ado showing us now marine senator, author of the
25:57
Speaker 8: massive Big Hit, both in a book for him and movie.
26:00
Speaker 7: Hillbilly Elegy is the Republican Vice.
26:02
Speaker 8: President Joe nominee JD Event Sir, how are you, good man?
26:06
Speaker 8: How are you seeing?
26:07
Speaker 7: I'm sure you've had a very slow day today.
26:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Nothing happened pretty boring.
26:11
Speaker 8: Nothing that happen pretty pretty more today, let's talk about
26:14
Speaker 8: the process. Sure, a lot of questions were you obviously, Uh,
26:18
Speaker 8: what was it like? Because the last couple of days,
26:21
Speaker 8: well it's down to two el and Senator Rubio?
26:23
Speaker 7: What was that like for you?
26:25
Speaker 4: You know, I just tried to enjoy the ride.
26:26
Speaker 9: What an honor to be considered if it had been
26:28
Speaker 9: sent or Ruby? Obviously, Marcus a good guy's good friend.
26:31
Speaker 9: So I try to just have a good attitude about it. Yeah,
26:33
Speaker 9: my family's very excited, obviously, asking a lot of questions
26:35
Speaker 9: I will say, Sean, I hope I'm not betraying too
26:38
Speaker 9: many confidences here. But when the president called me today,
26:41
Speaker 9: it actually formally offered me to become, you know, the
26:43
Speaker 9: vice president's nominee, which just sounds crazy. My son, my
26:47
Speaker 9: seven year old son, was sort of making noise in
26:49
Speaker 9: the background.
26:49
Speaker 4: You know, I'm getting so embarrassed. It's like, oh my god,
26:51
Speaker 4: Donald Trump's asking me to.
26:52
Speaker 8: Be his vice So the phone rings, he calls you,
26:55
Speaker 8: and you're like, Okay, this is the call, or maybe
26:57
Speaker 8: not the.
26:58
Speaker 5: Call, or maybe it's a bad call. Right, it's the
27:00
Speaker 5: who knows whether it's good or bad. But then he
27:02
Speaker 5: actually has me put my seven year old son on
27:05
Speaker 5: the phone. If you think about this, everything that's happened.
27:08
Speaker 5: The guy just got shot at a couple of days ago,
27:10
Speaker 5: and he takes the time to talk to my seven
27:11
Speaker 5: year old.
27:12
Speaker 4: It's a moment I'll never forget, all right, And what.
27:15
Speaker 8: Did he actually say, you know, he.
27:18
Speaker 5: Just said, Look, I think I'm gonna go save this country.
27:21
Speaker 5: I think you're the guy who can help me in
27:22
Speaker 5: the best way. You can help me govern, you can
27:25
Speaker 5: help me win, you can help me in some of
27:26
Speaker 5: these Midwestern states like Pennsylvania, Michigan.
27:28
Speaker 4: And so forth.
27:29
Speaker 5: And he said rightfully that we have been very, very
27:32
Speaker 5: close for a long time, but especially since I endorsed
27:36
Speaker 5: you in twenty twenty two, and I would not have
27:38
Speaker 5: won that race without Donald Trump's endorsement and the President's
27:41
Speaker 5: trust then in his partnership since then has been something
27:44
Speaker 5: I value a great deal.
27:45
Speaker 8: Let me let me ask you. You know, this happens
27:49
Speaker 8: all the time. You get announced and incoming begins.
27:53
Speaker 4: Let's go over some of it, please, and.
27:55
Speaker 8: Not questions you haven't heard before, new would be asked.
27:59
Speaker 8: All of them are fairly predictable, but I think Americans
28:01
Speaker 8: want the answers.
28:02
Speaker 4: Sure.
28:02
Speaker 8: Let me go back to, for example, after you know
28:06
Speaker 8: he announced this the media, I'm starting to read every
28:09
Speaker 8: article right yeah, and criticizing you that you know, here's
28:13
Speaker 8: a guy. This came out of Ohio. His support for
28:16
Speaker 8: a national abortion band and his twisted belief that women
28:18
Speaker 8: should stay in violent marriages for the benefit of their
28:21
Speaker 8: children exemplifies his dangerous extreme extremism. He's not just wrong
28:27
Speaker 8: for Ohio, he's wrong for the country. I actually saw
28:30
Speaker 8: those articles this weekend and I said, why would I wait?
28:34
Speaker 7: I wanted to know the answer.
28:36
Speaker 8: I called you, Yeah, how do you address that?
28:39
Speaker 9: Well?
28:39
Speaker 5: Look, so on, first of all, Democrats have completely twisted
28:42
Speaker 5: my words here, and as you know, both me and
28:45
Speaker 5: my mom actually were victims of domestic violence. The way
28:48
Speaker 5: they say that, you know, Dvance has supported women staying
28:51
Speaker 5: in violent marriages. I think it's shameful for them to
28:53
Speaker 5: take a guy with my history and my background and
28:56
Speaker 5: say that that's what I believe.
28:58
Speaker 4: It's not what I believe.
28:59
Speaker 5: It's not what I say, And I think, Sean, it's
29:01
Speaker 5: evidence of the democrats complete inability.
29:04
Speaker 4: To talk about the future.
29:05
Speaker 5: What are Republicans running on delivering the peace and prosperity
29:08
Speaker 5: that Donald Trump already delivered in his four years. What
29:11
Speaker 5: are Democrats running on lies and complete distortions of people's records.
29:16
Speaker 4: That is something I think the American people want to reject.
29:18
Speaker 4: They're too smart for it. You know.
29:19
Speaker 8: I said on January second, when the year started, I said,
29:22
Speaker 8: let me tell you what this year is going to
29:23
Speaker 8: be like. And I try to give a perspective to
29:26
Speaker 8: my audience. It's not my first rodeo, that's right, ad,
29:29
Speaker 8: And I said, the Democrats are going to try to
29:31
Speaker 8: make this election about.
29:33
Speaker 7: Quote democracy, in peril.
29:34
Speaker 8: How often have we heard that meanwhile, they might want
29:37
Speaker 8: to disenfranchise every primary voter that they had, and they
29:42
Speaker 8: wanted to get Donald Trump off the ticket in some states.
29:44
Speaker 8: Another example, it'd be about January sixth, it would be
29:47
Speaker 8: about abortion, and we hate Donald Trump exactly right. Can
29:53
Speaker 8: they run on the issue is the country better off
29:56
Speaker 8: that it was four years ago?
29:58
Speaker 4: Of course they can't, Sean, they can't run on that
29:59
Speaker 4: at all. And they can't run on the issue.
30:01
Speaker 5: Of is the world more peaceful than it was four
30:04
Speaker 5: years ago? Remember when Donald Trump left office, you had
30:07
Speaker 5: real growing peace movements all over the world, the Abraham
30:11
Speaker 5: Accords that showed a real promise of uniting the Israelis
30:14
Speaker 5: with some of the Sudi Arab states. There was no
30:16
Speaker 5: war in Europe. Asia looked like it was under pretty
30:19
Speaker 5: good control. And three years later, it seems like we
30:22
Speaker 5: have a conflict in every corner of the world, and
30:25
Speaker 5: Americans are poorer. Sean, you know a little about my background.
30:28
Speaker 5: I grew up in a poor family. I remember when
30:30
Speaker 5: my grandmother, who raised me, she used to negotiate with
30:33
Speaker 5: the meals on wheels people to give her additional food
30:36
Speaker 5: so that she could feed me, how does a family
30:39
Speaker 5: like that deal with Joe Biden's grocery price inflation? How
30:42
Speaker 5: does a family like that deal with gasoline and energy
30:45
Speaker 5: price inflation? It's gotten more expensive just to live a
30:48
Speaker 5: good life in this country. Donald Trump and I want
30:51
Speaker 5: to make that better, and we have policies to make
30:54
Speaker 5: it better. Democrats have lies and distortions, and again, I
30:57
Speaker 5: don't think the American people are going to reward.
30:58
Speaker 7: That opportunity to talk to Donald Trump.
31:01
Speaker 8: And I knew this question would come up, actually for
31:04
Speaker 8: almost every person that was under consideration, and that was
31:08
Speaker 8: past comments that you had made about him, and when
31:10
Speaker 8: I'll tell you after what his response was, But you
31:14
Speaker 8: weren't didn't have the nicest things to say about him
31:16
Speaker 8: back in twenty sixteen, which seems like a long time ago.
31:20
Speaker 8: Now you know that you literally said, you texted a
31:23
Speaker 8: friend that Trump is a cynical ahole like Nixon, who
31:27
Speaker 8: wouldn't be that bad and might even prove useful, and
31:30
Speaker 8: that he's America's hitler, and you compared him to a
31:34
Speaker 8: cultural heroine in the Atlantic Monthly.
31:37
Speaker 7: And I'll tell you Trump's response. But you said that,
31:41
Speaker 7: then what do you say to people that say well,
31:44
Speaker 7: wait a minute, what did he mean.
31:46
Speaker 4: Well, so I don't hide from that.
31:48
Speaker 5: I was certainly skeptical of Donald Trump in twenty sixteen.
31:50
Speaker 5: But President Trump was a great president, and he changed
31:53
Speaker 5: my mind. I think he changed the minds of a
31:55
Speaker 5: lot of Americans because again he delivered that peace and prosperity.
31:59
Speaker 4: If you go back to what I thought.
32:00
Speaker 5: In twenty sixteen, another thing that was going on, Sean
32:03
Speaker 5: is I bought.
32:04
Speaker 4: Into the media's lies and distortions.
32:05
Speaker 5: I bought into this idea that somehow he was going
32:08
Speaker 5: to be so different, a terrible threat to democracy.
32:11
Speaker 7: It was a joke.
32:13
Speaker 4: Joe Biden is the one who's trying to throw his
32:15
Speaker 4: political opposition in jail.
32:16
Speaker 5: Joe Biden is the one who's trying to undermine American
32:19
Speaker 5: law and order. President Trump did a really good job,
32:22
Speaker 5: and I actually think it's a good thing.
32:24
Speaker 4: When you see somebody you were wrong about him, You
32:26
Speaker 4: ought to admit the mistake and admit that you were wrong.
32:29
Speaker 8: When I brought it up to him, he said, I
32:31
Speaker 8: can't wait for this, Okay. When I brought it up
32:33
Speaker 8: to him, he said, yeah, he goes, But he doesn't
32:37
Speaker 8: think that way, now, does he. So he actually had
32:39
Speaker 8: a very good sense of humor about it. I also
32:41
Speaker 8: says a lot about him and he understands. Were you
32:43
Speaker 8: as political back then?
32:45
Speaker 4: Not really, Sean. I mean, you know, my book came
32:46
Speaker 4: out in twenty sixteen, he'll bili elogy. It's really the
32:48
Speaker 4: sort of the story.
32:49
Speaker 5: Of growing up in poverty, achieving the American dream, starting
32:53
Speaker 5: out in business.
32:53
Speaker 4: And I really didn't care that much about politics. I
32:56
Speaker 4: certainly had views.
32:57
Speaker 5: I was a Republican, but I was not as nearly
32:59
Speaker 5: as involved obviously as I am today. And again because
33:02
Speaker 5: something that really changed for me, and I think for
33:04
Speaker 5: a lot of Americans is we saw the results of
33:07
Speaker 5: the Trump presidency compared to the obsessive, deranged media reaction.
33:13
Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, Like, what's going on?
33:15
Speaker 4: What's so bad about this guy?
33:17
Speaker 5: That he's delivered rising wages for American workers and peace
33:20
Speaker 5: in the world.
33:21
Speaker 4: Why is the media so obsessed with him?
33:22
Speaker 5: I think a lot of Americans actually have had a
33:24
Speaker 5: similar wakening over the last few years because you compare
33:27
Speaker 5: the results with the reaction, and clearly the people with
33:30
Speaker 5: the reaction of the problem that's not President Trump's problem.
33:32
Speaker 8: You know, a lot of people forget too back in
33:35
Speaker 8: the first debate, I believe it was. And Kamala Harris
33:38
Speaker 8: was on the stage with Joe Biden at the time,
33:40
Speaker 8: and she said, I was that girl. If you remember
33:43
Speaker 8: that moment, it was a very hard hitting moment. What
33:45
Speaker 8: she was referring to is the fact that Joe Biden
33:48
Speaker 8: had partnered with a former klansman and tried to stop
33:51
Speaker 8: the integration of public schools. Joe Biden's words, he didn't
33:55
Speaker 8: want those schools to become racial Jungles.
33:59
Speaker 5: Seun Ilamila Harris basically said, Joe Biden wouldn't want a
34:02
Speaker 5: little black girl like me to live in her neighborhood.
34:04
Speaker 5: He also powered around with clansmen. She said this months
34:08
Speaker 5: before she joined his ticket. Sean, I said some bad
34:10
Speaker 5: things about Donald Trump ten years ago. But I think
34:12
Speaker 5: it's actually important to be able again to admit that
34:15
Speaker 5: you're wrong. And if we can make a good pick
34:17
Speaker 5: case of the American people, people who may have been
34:19
Speaker 5: skeptical of the president back in twenty sixteen, who can
34:22
Speaker 5: be skeptical now that we've seen the results.
34:23
Speaker 7: All right, let's talk about a little bit.
34:26
Speaker 8: And I think these are important times in a consequential time.
34:29
Speaker 7: Sure, and we see what's happening with the border.
34:31
Speaker 8: For example, I think it's now become the number one
34:34
Speaker 8: national security threat.
34:35
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely.
34:36
Speaker 8: And we have nearly eleven million unvetted Joe Biden illegal
34:39
Speaker 8: immigrants in this country.
34:41
Speaker 7: What should we do with them?
34:42
Speaker 4: Well, so we have to deport people.
34:44
Speaker 5: We have to deport people who broke our laws who
34:46
Speaker 5: came in here, and I think we start with the
34:48
Speaker 5: violent criminals.
34:48
Speaker 4: And President Trump has.
34:50
Speaker 5: Been very very effective at communicating on this so to
34:52
Speaker 5: the point where now a majority of Americans believe that
34:55
Speaker 5: we needed to port a large number of people who've
34:57
Speaker 5: come here illegally. That's a major political victory for him,
35:00
Speaker 5: and I think it's going to lead to a policy
35:02
Speaker 5: victory for the American people. But John, we have to
35:04
Speaker 5: talk about the fentanyl problem because this is something that
35:07
Speaker 5: I know extremely personally, and we have close to one
35:10
Speaker 5: hundred thousand Americans dying of drug over nurses every single year.
35:13
Speaker 5: Most of us is brought in by Mexican drug cartels
35:16
Speaker 5: manufacturing in China, been brought in by these cartels. To
35:19
Speaker 5: get a little personal, you know, my mom started with
35:21
Speaker 5: addiction for a big chunk on my early life.
35:23
Speaker 4: That's why my grandmother, who I call Mamma, raised me.
35:26
Speaker 5: But the coolest thing, maybe the greatest blessing of my life,
35:30
Speaker 5: is that my mom is about to celebrate ten years sober,
35:32
Speaker 5: and she is able to celebrate ten years sober, frankly
35:35
Speaker 5: because the poison that's coming across the border now wasn't
35:38
Speaker 5: coming across in such large.
35:40
Speaker 4: Numbers fifteen years ago.
35:41
Speaker 5: We are depriving Americans of a second chance with their
35:44
Speaker 5: loved ones. You cannot keep on doing this. You're orphaning
35:48
Speaker 5: an entire generation in kids. Go to Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Seawan.
35:53
Speaker 5: You have thousands of grandparents raising grandchildren that they weren't
35:57
Speaker 5: expecting to raise because of the poison.
35:59
Speaker 4: Joe Biden come across the border.
36:01
Speaker 5: President Trump is the guy to stop this, and if
36:04
Speaker 5: we don't stop it, we're in generation young kids.
36:07
Speaker 8: You know, when I saw you in Atlanta, I said,
36:09
Speaker 8: I felt a little embarrassed because one of the few Americans,
36:13
Speaker 8: because most people knew Hillbilly elog. It was a massive
36:16
Speaker 8: bestseller that became a movie, and I didn't. I literally
36:21
Speaker 8: read at least a book a day researching. I know
36:24
Speaker 8: you do radio and television and so I decided I
36:27
Speaker 8: watched the movie, and when I saw you, I did
36:30
Speaker 8: ask you, is this really what your life was, Appalachia.
36:36
Speaker 7: And this is the history of your life, Appalachia.
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Speaker 8: You become a marine and by the way, your mom
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Speaker 8: was a drug addict and an alcoholic. Your father not
36:45
Speaker 8: exactly the greatest father in the world, and you grew
36:47
Speaker 8: up poor and you had an amazing grandmother that came
36:50
Speaker 8: out of your life too, right. But then you joined
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Speaker 8: the Marines, you served in Iraq, You came out of school,
36:55
Speaker 8: you went to Ohio State, you went to Yale, You
36:58
Speaker 8: prospered at Yale. Then you went on to be successful
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Speaker 8: in business, which, by the way, democrats are criticizing you
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Speaker 8: for they wish you fell by you guess when they
37:07
Speaker 8: wrote that, considering where you came from.
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Speaker 7: It's the American dream. And then you know, you got
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Speaker 7: into politics and you did so successfully.
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Speaker 8: A pretty amazing story to give us some texture and
37:20
Speaker 8: context to that life that.
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Speaker 7: I mean, that's a tough life you had.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Sawan, it was tough in a lot of ways,
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Speaker 5: but blessed in a lot of ways. And I think
37:28
Speaker 5: you got to sort of accept the good with the bad.
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Speaker 9: I wouldn't see the world the same way that I
37:32
Speaker 9: see it without that experience that I really do see
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Speaker 9: it as a blessing. The grandmother who raised me was
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Speaker 9: such an amazing person. I mean, she was a woman
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Speaker 9: of deep Christian faith.
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Speaker 5: She cursed like a sailor. I mean, she had a
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Speaker 5: mouth that would really make a Marine Corps rill.
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Speaker 4: Instruct her blush.
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Speaker 5: But she was so loving and so disciplined, and I
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Speaker 5: really think that all the opportunities that I've had come
37:51
Speaker 5: directly from her. She also believed in this country and
37:55
Speaker 5: recognized that most people to Washington do not care about
37:58
Speaker 5: people like her.
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Speaker 4: And I talk about.
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Speaker 5: Generations of grandparents raising generations of grandchildren. That's exactly what
38:04
Speaker 5: I think about, because I remember that my mamma, she
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Speaker 5: couldn't afford her Medicaid payments, She couldn't afford the.
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Speaker 4: Prescription drugs that she needed.
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Speaker 5: She sometimes couldn't even afford food for both me and her.
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Speaker 5: Those are the people who suffer when we have the
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Speaker 5: policies that we've had over the last three and a
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Speaker 5: half years, And those are the people who stand to
38:23
Speaker 5: benefit the most from President Trump.
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Speaker 4: Round two.
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Speaker 8: Let me go back to the scene and you referred
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Speaker 8: to it earlier meals on wheels. Yeah, and she would
38:31
Speaker 8: negotiate an extra something because you had nothing else nothing.
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Speaker 5: Well, we sometimes we struggled, but sometimes strown. We didn't
38:40
Speaker 5: have anything, and she would negotiate to get a little
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Speaker 5: bit of extra so that she could share with me
38:44
Speaker 5: and also have enough for herself.
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Speaker 4: Look, sometimes tough work.
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Speaker 5: Sometimes times were heart right, and you know, but I
38:51
Speaker 5: look back on that and I think to myself, when
38:53
Speaker 5: I go and talk to people, when I serve people
38:55
Speaker 5: as a United States Senator from the state of Ohio,
38:57
Speaker 5: I go and visit a food bank, I actually understand
39:00
Speaker 5: a little bit what people are going through. And so, yeah,
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Speaker 5: it was tough when I was dealing with it, but
39:04
Speaker 5: now I really do think it's a blessing because it's
39:06
Speaker 5: given me a perspective a lot of politicians don't have.
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Speaker 8: Let's talk about what you believe the role of a
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Speaker 8: vice president should be.
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Speaker 4: Sure, Well, look, Sean, I think it's very simple. Number One.
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Speaker 5: You need to support the president in enacting the agenda,
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Speaker 5: whether it's going and meeting with foreign leaders, whether it's
39:21
Speaker 5: working with the Senate and the House to get legislation passed.
39:24
Speaker 5: The president can't be everywhere, even Donald Trump can't be everywhere.
39:27
Speaker 5: So you've got to be a person he can trust,
39:30
Speaker 5: he can rely on to actually advance the agenda. That's
39:33
Speaker 5: the most important job. Of course, if something God forbid happens,
39:36
Speaker 5: you got to be ready to step into that office.
39:38
Speaker 5: That's one of the most important roles the vice president.
39:40
Speaker 5: But I think Donald Trump very healthy, going to serve
39:43
Speaker 5: a four very good years. But we've got to have
39:45
Speaker 5: Republicans who are helping him with the agenda. You remember
39:48
Speaker 5: this as well as anybody, Sean. As successful as he
39:51
Speaker 5: was politically, even after he was elected, certain Republicans didn't
39:55
Speaker 5: want to actually enact the America First agenda.
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Speaker 4: You've got to have leaders in Washington who are supporting him,
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Speaker 4: not fighting against him.
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Speaker 8: Let's talk about an occasion where you might disagree with him.
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Speaker 7: Sure, how do you view your role in terms of
40:08
Speaker 7: handling that moment.
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Speaker 4: That's very simple, Sean.
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Speaker 5: I think that you owe it to the president to
40:13
Speaker 5: be honest with him if you don't think that he's
40:14
Speaker 5: doing the right thing. If you disagree with him, but
40:17
Speaker 5: you do it in private. You offer your counsel in private.
40:20
Speaker 5: Because a lot of the vultures in the press, they
40:22
Speaker 5: will blow up every public So.
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Speaker 8: You've met my colleagues right here. I call him state
40:27
Speaker 8: run media.
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Speaker 4: No, they absolutely are are state run media.
40:31
Speaker 5: In fact, they're so state run that even after President
40:33
Speaker 5: Trump was shot and he showed a remarkable amount of
40:37
Speaker 5: unity and defiance and calmness.
40:40
Speaker 4: They blamed him for the rhetoric, even though he was
40:44
Speaker 4: the victim of a near assassination.
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Speaker 5: It's crazy, but I think it's really important that you
40:50
Speaker 5: don't have Republicans who blow up disagreements so that they
40:54
Speaker 5: can win points with the media who are never going
40:56
Speaker 5: to treat Republicans fairly. The job is to help the
40:59
Speaker 5: nact the agenda.
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Speaker 4: And why does that matter? Because that's what's going to
41:02
Speaker 4: make people's lives better.
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Speaker 1: Let me say this also about JD. Vance real quick,
41:07
Speaker 1: just to put it in perspective. I think how incredible
41:11
Speaker 1: this pick is. You look at his history, you look
41:13
Speaker 1: at his background, you listen to and talk about his upbringing.
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Speaker 1: He's going to remember so many Americans that keep getting forgotten.
41:23
Speaker 1: He is going to remember those that are struggling. You know,
41:28
Speaker 1: in this country there has been this kind of a
41:31
Speaker 1: I guess you could say obsession, and it is an
41:37
Speaker 1: obsession that only Democrats can care for those that are poor,
41:43
Speaker 1: because they have convinced poor people that they're the only
41:45
Speaker 1: ones that are there for them. And the only reason
41:48
Speaker 1: why that's the case. Okay, the only reason why that's
41:53
Speaker 1: the case is because they keep people addicted to poverty
41:58
Speaker 1: because of government. A Hey, come vote for me and
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Speaker 1: I'll give you some food. Here's your pentance from the
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Speaker 1: US government. Right, keep voting for me. The other guys
42:05
Speaker 1: don't want you to want to give you food stamps
42:09
Speaker 1: or you know, utility assistance or housing credits, whatever it
42:13
Speaker 1: may be, public housing. Now, we want you to not
42:15
Speaker 1: live a life literally in the below poverty. That's the
42:19
Speaker 1: difference between conservative liberals. Liberals want to keep you there
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Speaker 1: for your whole life, so they own you like a
42:23
Speaker 1: modern day slave, so that you will always vote for them. Okay,
42:27
Speaker 1: that is the part that people don't understand. Okay, that
42:33
Speaker 1: is the part that people do not get. And I
42:37
Speaker 1: think that's really really important. I think it's a really
42:41
Speaker 1: important point that needs to be made. And I think
42:45
Speaker 1: this is where JD can be a great candidate for
42:50
Speaker 1: the president, to go out there and to tell people like, hey,
42:55
Speaker 1: I understand Hey, I get it. Hey, I comprehend what's
43:03
Speaker 1: going on here. I understand how hard it is to survive.
43:07
Speaker 1: I've been there, I've done that. Look at my life,
43:12
Speaker 1: Look at my grandmother that raised me, look at my mom.
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Speaker 1: He can understand those that deal with addiction. And I
43:19
Speaker 1: do believe that's going to be incredibly important for the
43:21
Speaker 1: American people. He has a lot of compassion for people
43:24
Speaker 1: that are struggling. I think this is going to be
43:26
Speaker 1: very important for this campaign. I think it's gonna be
43:30
Speaker 1: incredibly important for Donald Trump to have someone out there
43:34
Speaker 1: that can walk out there and say, I've been where
43:35
Speaker 1: you are right now, and we want to get you
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Speaker 1: out of this. We don't want to keep you in it.
43:42
Speaker 1: I want you to be able to succeed, not live
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Speaker 1: in poverty. And that is your legacy for your entire life.
43:47
Speaker 1: Because the Democrats never want to get you out of poverty.
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Speaker 1: They want to keep you there so you're dependent on them,
43:51
Speaker 1: so you will vote for them, and they own you
43:53
Speaker 1: like a modern day slave, Make no mistake about it.
43:58
Speaker 1: That's what this is about. That's why I think the
44:01
Speaker 1: President picked him, and I think he's a great pick
44:03
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