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Debra Martin Chase - Renowned Award-winning Film/TV Producer and Executive Producer of new CBS series "The Equalizer" starring Queen Latifah, the first African American female producer to have a deal at any major studio · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: a celebrity, she's a CEO, she's an entrepreneur, and she
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  Speaker 1: truly is an industry decision maker. Her name is Debor
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  Speaker 1: Martin Chase. She's the President CEO of Martin Chase Productions.
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  Speaker 1: She's currently the executive producer of one of my favorite shows,
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  Speaker 1: The Equalizer, the TV series for CBS and Universal Students
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  Speaker 1: starting My Girl que Latifa. The premiered on Super Bowl Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: The Equalizer currently airs every Sunday. You can check it
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  Speaker 1: a pm, seven Central again on CBS. Now, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about Debor Martin Chase entertain the industry icon trailblazer as
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  Speaker 1: the first African American female producer to have a deal
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  Speaker 1: at any major studio. Ever. I was there. I was
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  Speaker 1: watching white known sitcom. I was going, who is she?
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  Speaker 1: Were like? Ever meet Hi. She's also the first African
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  Speaker 1: American woman to produce a film that grossed over one
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  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. That was Denzelle's Washington Courage under Fire.
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  Speaker 1: To date, her films have grossed over a half billion
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  Speaker 1: dollars at the box office. Only got two movies, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Think like a Man, Think like a Man too. I
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  Speaker 1: think I did a hundred and fifty millions, So I
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  Speaker 1: ain't close to her. About six years ago, nobody is
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  Speaker 1: interested in making movies about women all people of color.
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  Speaker 1: My how the landscape has changed for black people and
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  Speaker 1: creatives in Hollywood. Please welcome to when to make it
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  Speaker 1: a conversation to talk about it, my friend and you
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  Speaker 1: stone it devor Martin Chase, So thank you so much,
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  Speaker 1: such kind words. Thank you well, first of all the
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  Speaker 1: three like, I'm Ray Sean McDonald now deveror Martin Chase.
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  Speaker 1: How did it become three names? Shame? Well, that's the
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  Speaker 1: Houston part. I was married when I got out of
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  Speaker 1: law school and moved to Houston, Texas and uh, and
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  Speaker 1: since it was the beginning of my career, I kept
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  Speaker 1: the Chase. And then, as I told you, I still
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  Speaker 1: have great friends in Houston and the great love of
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  Speaker 1: the city. And it's all part of who I am.
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  Speaker 1: What part of who you are has been a person
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  Speaker 1: that uh, Like I said, my first shitcom job was
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  Speaker 1: with Steve Harvey on UH, I think it was ninety
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  Speaker 1: three on ABC Me and the Boys, And then I
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  Speaker 1: did Parents Who with Robert Towns. And in the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: you were already breaking grounds for a very successful career.
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  Speaker 1: And let's talk about because you started out the law
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  Speaker 1: I started out at IBM. I was an IBM degree
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  Speaker 1: is in mathematics, so I can kind of relate to
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  Speaker 1: an extreme change because mine was math. These shows was
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  Speaker 1: a law and it kind of correlates with the you know,
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  Speaker 1: contracts and the business side that goes along with being
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  Speaker 1: an executive producer and a person who runs things behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes. Talk about that transition first about the law
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  Speaker 1: experience and then transmition into Hollywood. Sure, well, I, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my beloved late dad was the biggest film
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  Speaker 1: and television buff that I ever knew, And so I
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  Speaker 1: grew up in a household where we watched films and
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  Speaker 1: we watched TV together, and I was that kid that
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  Speaker 1: went to the movie theater every Saturday and stayed until
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  Speaker 1: you know, my mother came to get me. But I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know anybody in the business. I didn't know anybody,
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  Speaker 1: certainly anybody who looked like me that was behind the
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  Speaker 1: scenes in Hollywood. And so I went to law school
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  Speaker 1: because you know, I needed to prepare myself for the world.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I went to Harvard Law School and
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  Speaker 1: and I started practicing law a big firms and big corporations,
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  Speaker 1: and I was a really good lawyer. But I didn't
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  Speaker 1: love it, and I just figured, you know, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna work this hard, I should go after my dream,
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  Speaker 1: which was to make film and television. So, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and when and when I left, remember because I was
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  Speaker 1: in New York at the time and I was working
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  Speaker 1: at Avon Products, and my friends were like, oh, you'll
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  Speaker 1: be back, You'll be back. When I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna give this my best shot. Here I am now
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  Speaker 1: he was interesting because I'm gonna skip around a little
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  Speaker 1: bit because I want to definitely get back to the
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  Speaker 1: equalizer and didn't talk about your career. Roughly. I was
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  Speaker 1: reading this article I think it was in uh, Hollywood Reporter,
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  Speaker 1: and it was talking about roughly six years ago. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the landscape was kind of frustrating for you, and you
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  Speaker 1: were considering other options other than entertainment. Am I correcting
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  Speaker 1: what I was reading? Yeah? Absolutely, And so at that
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  Speaker 1: point law was looking like an option again, and then
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  Speaker 1: I certainly considered it. You know, I got in this
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  Speaker 1: business because when I was growing up, I did not
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  Speaker 1: see people on screen who looked or felt like me,
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  Speaker 1: and so I wanted to break down stereotypes. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to to create images that would empower us and would
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  Speaker 1: help people to understand that, you know, they had the
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  Speaker 1: power to do whatever they wanted to do in life
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  Speaker 1: and to and to make their own dreams come true.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a period in Hollywood and you know
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  Speaker 1: where you know, people weren't interested in making movies about women,
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  Speaker 1: about people of color. It was all about the big
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  Speaker 1: temp pole movies and and and action movies. And I
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  Speaker 1: would walk into offices and people's eyes with glaze over
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  Speaker 1: when I told them, you know what I was thinking about,
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  Speaker 1: and I and so then you just start throwing stuff
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  Speaker 1: up against the wall that has no meaning. And that's
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  Speaker 1: not how I work, that's not to me, that's that
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  Speaker 1: that is not the road to success. And so I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of I got to the point where I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe the universe is telling me that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've had a good run, but maybe it's time to
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  Speaker 1: think about doing something else. Honestly, this is a good
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  Speaker 1: story and it's true. And I spent about a year
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  Speaker 1: just talking to people because I had the luxury of
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  Speaker 1: being at Disney. Um you know, had my company based
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  Speaker 1: at Disney for you know, twenty years, and and I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking about what I should do and where I
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  Speaker 1: should go. And Vernon Jordan's you know who we just lost,
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  Speaker 1: had been a friend and an advisor of mine since
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  Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old. His his his daughter's one
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  Speaker 1: of my best friends. And and I went to go
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  Speaker 1: see vern Is I often did, and I told Vernon
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  Speaker 1: how I was feeling, and I was thinking about doing
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  Speaker 1: other other things, maybe going back to practice law. And
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  Speaker 1: Levernon heard me very calmly listen to me pour my
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  Speaker 1: heart out, and he looked at me and he said,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're too old to do anything else. You
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  Speaker 1: need to need to figure out you've invested a lot
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  Speaker 1: in the film and television, and figure out how to
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  Speaker 1: make that work. And he was right. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: really interesting that because you know, when I left IBM,
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  Speaker 1: and you know the whole thought process. You can go back,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you you you've mastered the corporate space. That's
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  Speaker 1: always an option, but it really is about moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: That's all least telling you going back with it? Well, why, well,
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  Speaker 1: what's there? A lot more confusion, a lot more unknown
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  Speaker 1: when you're great, you're fantastic now. But that was just
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  Speaker 1: one conversation. But what happened that really set you forward
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  Speaker 1: in a positive direction that yes, I can do this again. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I've been born to do, this is
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  Speaker 1: what this is my dream. This is combination of realizing
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  Speaker 1: that there were stories that I still very much wanted
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  Speaker 1: to tell, and frankly that the business as I was
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  Speaker 1: going through my kind of soul searching process, the business
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  Speaker 1: started changing and Hollywood finally realized what you and I
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  Speaker 1: have been telling it for and many others have been
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  Speaker 1: telling it for years, that diversity was not just the
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  Speaker 1: right thing to do, but that it was good business.
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  Speaker 1: And once Hollywood figured out that there was money that
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  Speaker 1: was being left on the table by not you know,
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  Speaker 1: telling stories about people of color that you know, people
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  Speaker 1: of all ethnicities, you know, white people, black people, Asian
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  Speaker 1: people would go see good stories about people of color
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  Speaker 1: and about women, it opened up the door. And now
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  Speaker 1: it's mean, you know, it's still we still a long
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  Speaker 1: way to go, but my god, I mean, look at
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  Speaker 1: the number of movies that have been made in the
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  Speaker 1: last few years. Look at what's going on in TV.
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  Speaker 1: It's really exciting. And so it's funny. And it took
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  Speaker 1: me about six years to get Harriet made. And Harriet
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  Speaker 1: kind of covered that territory from the beginning where people
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  Speaker 1: are like, oh, historical movie about a black woman, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know to you know, towards the end it was like, oh, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hidden figures that happened and I did a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money. It was like they could see the
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  Speaker 1: potential of telling an action story about a woman of color.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It's really interesting because you know, because you
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  Speaker 1: were like me, we were there that I'm a writer,
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  Speaker 1: your producer, you're a writer too. And so from that standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: we went through that whole reality series, you know, where
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  Speaker 1: black people, especially black women, were not featured in a
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  Speaker 1: very favorable manner, fighting, cussing, drinking party and and so
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  Speaker 1: this hair out. Oh my god. So so with that process,
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  Speaker 1: I know, you had to be really sick to your
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  Speaker 1: stomach that that period right there. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: reality shows have changed that much, but now we have
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  Speaker 1: ramas and comedies and docuseris allows us to give us
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  Speaker 1: solid balance and tell black stories better. But that period,
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  Speaker 1: because I was doing the Neighborhood Awards with Steve Harvey
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  Speaker 1: and we would we couldn't even get really presenters because
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  Speaker 1: there weren't any black celebrities on TV. Or in the business.
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  Speaker 1: It was really a dark period. And so from a
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  Speaker 1: creative standpoint, I know what led you to that thought
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  Speaker 1: process because guess what, Hollywood wasn't even trying to put
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  Speaker 1: the scripted idea in a black person's hand at all.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, literally, I can't. I'm sitting here as
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking. I can remember the meetings where people's eyes
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  Speaker 1: they just with glaze over, They just like had no
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  Speaker 1: appreciation for for you know what I was talking about,
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  Speaker 1: and no interest now you know, and part of and
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  Speaker 1: you know, and frankly, one of the things is Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles is a very segregated city. And I think that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, while the rest of the country was more
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  Speaker 1: integrated and kind of embracing different cultures, l A was
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  Speaker 1: slow to come to the table to understand that that
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  Speaker 1: many people are interested in the stories of all people.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's let's let's get back to you know why
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  Speaker 1: you really came on this show. You come on to
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  Speaker 1: the show to talk to Rochelle. You got this hit
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  Speaker 1: shell on TV called The Equalizes and with Queen Latifa. Um,
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  Speaker 1: now I ask you this for My first question is
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  Speaker 1: premier after the Super Bowl. Okay, okay, Devil Okay, devil,
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  Speaker 1: You've done a lot of great things in your life. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: certain phone calls come to you, You're like, you got
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  Speaker 1: to be kiddy. When how did that started, that opportunity
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  Speaker 1: break for you and how did you react? Where were
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  Speaker 1: you at when they told you that your series was
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  Speaker 1: gonna premiere, was gonna be out to the super funny
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  Speaker 1: we were We were shooting because we we are we
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  Speaker 1: are well. We are based at the Eyad Center at
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  Speaker 1: the Meadowlands in New Jersey. This is below me or
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  Speaker 1: is the arena floor, and our standing sets are there.
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  Speaker 1: My office here is a skybox at the ead Center.
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  Speaker 1: We do some exteriors in New York, but we shoot
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  Speaker 1: a lot in New Jersey. That night, we were in Bayonne,
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, at an oil supply field. That was nasty.
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  Speaker 1: It was freezing cold, and I got this text from
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  Speaker 1: the head of drama at Universal Television saying, you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: we need to have a call immediately with CBS. You know,
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  Speaker 1: can you get the other executive producers together in in
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  Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes? And we were like okay, and we
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  Speaker 1: really didn't know what the call was. We were like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, you know over budget you know like that,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, George Cheeks, who is the head of CBS,
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  Speaker 1: was on the call and he said, guys, are good
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  Speaker 1: news for you. We believe in this show. We believed
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  Speaker 1: in it from the very beginning, and we're putting you
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  Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl and we were just like, oh my,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was like, oh my god, Um, it's huge.
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  Speaker 1: It was huge. It was huge, you know. And I
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  Speaker 1: saw the premier and after following the series every since,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, when it was announced, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: had Denzel and they had the original series and Queen
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  Speaker 1: latif you know, because I know the role has some
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  Speaker 1: type of physicality tied to it if you want to
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  Speaker 1: have some type of credibility. And so my original thought was,
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  Speaker 1: can queen the teeth handing the physicality tied to this role?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you from the pilot series on where
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  Speaker 1: she walked in that uh whatever room where the where
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  Speaker 1: the young lady was taken in and yeah, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: she broke off to the gun, kicked him in the corner,
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  Speaker 1: shot him and and walked out of that went Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is a hit serious right here. This is a
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  Speaker 1: hit serious because you know, everything is tied to credibility,
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  Speaker 1: and to me, that was the credibility moment for me
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  Speaker 1: in this series and walking through that whole process of
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  Speaker 1: bringing Queenlitief on board talking about the physicality and horizon
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  Speaker 1: to the occasion. Yeah, so funny. So our show at
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  Speaker 1: the you know, the Denzel movie franchise is great and
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  Speaker 1: it's been enormously successful. They took the basic idea and
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  Speaker 1: and and built from there. Our show is based on
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  Speaker 1: the original nineteen eighties show. Those are the rights that
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  Speaker 1: we have and um so I but you know, Dan
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  Speaker 1: and I go way back. We actually actually shot Just Right,
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  Speaker 1: partial portions of Just Right, the movie we did together
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  Speaker 1: here at the Eyes o Zener, which is really you know,
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  Speaker 1: great symmetry. And I've been trying to get back in
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  Speaker 1: business together and I brought her in to have a
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  Speaker 1: meeting with Universal TV, where I have my deal and
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  Speaker 1: Perlina the Bokway, who was the head of You TV
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  Speaker 1: then is now the head of the Universal Studio group.
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  Speaker 1: An amazing you know black woman was there and she said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, clean, but we have a few ideas for you,
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  Speaker 1: like we want to talk to you about. And the
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  Speaker 1: first one was was equalizer and honest to uh there
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  Speaker 1: was a moment of silence, and then Dana said yes,
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  Speaker 1: like like, and I think everybody in the room could
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  Speaker 1: see her in the role. It just made sense. And then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we we have amazing showrunners Terry Miller and
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Marlowe, and they and our other executive producers, we
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  Speaker 1: all got the role was built for her. We spent
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about what the show should be,
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  Speaker 1: what the role should be. You know. Then Queen Latifa
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  Speaker 1: spent time on her own with the creators of the show,
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  Speaker 1: so they really got a sense of her and her
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  Speaker 1: voice and crafted a character that reflected who she was,
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  Speaker 1: her essence, her strength, and and and her beauty. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, from the very beginning, it was really important
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  Speaker 1: to all of us and and really important to Queen
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  Speaker 1: Latifa to your point, that the action be credible. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: I got you know, I got a I got a brand,
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  Speaker 1: I got an image. I cannot go out there cap big.
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  Speaker 1: So she trained, we have experts as she works with
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  Speaker 1: with the for the guns and those fight sequences. She
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  Speaker 1: does a lot of it herself. Uh, and she's great.
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  Speaker 1: It's great. I think it's great. And obviously she rides
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  Speaker 1: motorcycles in real life, so that we we we put
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  Speaker 1: that in there because we knew that was organic to her.
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  Speaker 1: it is, first of all, you said beauty, beautiful. You
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at, I look at that show that go
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  Speaker 1: she looks fantastic. She is absolutely a beautiful woman. I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: like because that they know that that that captured me
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  Speaker 1: in the pilot and every episode is how great she looks,
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  Speaker 1: skin looks fantastic, and that carries carries over, I think
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  Speaker 1: into the way she carries herself through the series. You know,
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  Speaker 1: she carries herself as a very confident person that she
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  Speaker 1: has the issues with a daughter, which humanizes her. It
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  Speaker 1: makes her vulnerable, it makes her not feel so perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Is that if you know in the streets precisely the
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  Speaker 1: point and because what she Robin McCall represents most women
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  Speaker 1: who have to balance career and family and personal life.
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  Speaker 1: Now obviously in this case it's you know, she's former
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  Speaker 1: c I agent who's you know, kicking butt on a
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  Speaker 1: regular basis. But it's just you know, it's it's exaggerated
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  Speaker 1: by TV turn, but it's a real it's a real
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  Speaker 1: balancing act that every woman does it juggling, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that is what makes her very relatable to both
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  Speaker 1: men and women. Men are juggling too, you know, our
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  Speaker 1: our lives are complicated, and so we like to say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she can take down the bad it's criminal,
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  Speaker 1: but she can't. It's hard for her to stand up
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  Speaker 1: to her sixteen year old thoughts. And that's that's the
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  Speaker 1: beauty of when you when you building our characters and
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  Speaker 1: then and you've been known for developing characters and making
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  Speaker 1: sure the characters are flushed out, and that's what I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that because I hate to not watching the movie
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not engaged or the character doesn't get me
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  Speaker 1: emotionally attached to their problems. And that's really what really
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  Speaker 1: is one of the one of the true successes behind
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  Speaker 1: the equalizes are correct. Yes, yeah, because she's a fully
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  Speaker 1: fleshed out human human being woman us you'll see, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we've got romance coming and everything else. But yes, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I believe character comes first because if you can
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  Speaker 1: relate to the people, then you're then you will take
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  Speaker 1: any journey with them. And honestly, that's something may have
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  Speaker 1: always been a storyteller and I, you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: a preporacious reader growing up. But also you know, I
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  Speaker 1: ran Denzel Washington's company early on in my career here,
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  Speaker 1: and that was one of the things I learned from him,
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  Speaker 1: was how to approach things from the character perspective. And
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  Speaker 1: uh and and I you know, it is how I
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  Speaker 1: live now. You get this big opportunity every coming into
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I'm gonna have a conversation about COVID
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  Speaker 1: and eighteen and the production and how you wrapping up
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  Speaker 1: because you know, medical safety, safety or the cast and
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  Speaker 1: safety of the production team is is what what moments
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning and what moments that have allowed you
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  Speaker 1: to have more freedom now in the production of the
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  Speaker 1: show their equalizer. Well, listen, it's been a challenge. It's
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  Speaker 1: a challenge for for everybody who's in production right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's enormously expensive. I test every day, as does a
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  Speaker 1: significant portion of our crew, and certainly anybody who comes
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  Speaker 1: in contact with the actors, because the actors are you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's no show without the actors. But they're the most
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  Speaker 1: vulnerable because they have to work with no masks on.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got um you know, and and and and
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  Speaker 1: everything is slower. You know, location scouting is slower. You
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  Speaker 1: know the fact that everybody has to test takes time
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  Speaker 1: out of your day. Um, you've got you know, we've
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  Speaker 1: got masks and shields on all day long. So funny.
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  Speaker 1: We always laugh and say, at some point, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to take these off and we
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  Speaker 1: won't recognize each other because we see me most of
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  Speaker 1: my crew without a mask on. So it's and and
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  Speaker 1: also you know, particularly in the beginning, because we started
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  Speaker 1: shooting November nine, when it was a different time, there
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  Speaker 1: was no vaccine yet, people are scared and so that
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're nervous and and they're nervous about being
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  Speaker 1: I mean most of us have gone from being in
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  Speaker 1: our homes relatively isolated with a little bubble too. I
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  Speaker 1: work with two hundred people every day in an arena,
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  Speaker 1: which is a luxury in these times. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning, people were scared and nervous and like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, am I gonna you know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: am I gonna get sick? So um, Universal, NBC. Universal
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  Speaker 1: has been incredibly responsible and CBS and safety has really
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  Speaker 1: come first. But it's tough you know, the thing about
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  Speaker 1: it is that when I look at you know, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about our frustrations and seeing you know, scripted and
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  Speaker 1: black storytelling you cast aside for reality. And then but
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  Speaker 1: I think that it was really health us is the
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  Speaker 1: streaming industry, streaming television there they're the need for content,
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  Speaker 1: and then when the content was presented, we delivered talk
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  Speaker 1: about the the change in the shifting the industry and
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  Speaker 1: how it has impacted in a very good way Black
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  Speaker 1: programming absolutely and kind of the fundamental differences. The movie
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  Speaker 1: studios have moved to making tent pole movies that appear
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  Speaker 1: to the widest possible audience globally, and that's that's how
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  Speaker 1: they justify their you know, their cost structure and how
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  Speaker 1: they make money. The network television, similarly, is making shows
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  Speaker 1: that appeal to the widest possible audience and that appeal globally,
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  Speaker 1: so you're not you know, to find distinctive voices to
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  Speaker 1: support those in those environments is really hard, whereas streaming,
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  Speaker 1: on the other hand, is more about niche marketing, and
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  Speaker 1: so you can have uh, you know, Insecure, which was
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  Speaker 1: on HBO, but still you know, cable cable and streaming,
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  Speaker 1: which because it doesn't you know, doesn't have eight million
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  Speaker 1: viewers every week, but has a very loyal following and
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  Speaker 1: is a hit in that sense because it's all they
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  Speaker 1: just you know, the streamers and and premium cable. They're
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  Speaker 1: about subscribers. So if they can if a show appeals
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  Speaker 1: to a certain you know, subscriber piece of of the
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  Speaker 1: base and they are loyal followers, that's that's what their
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  Speaker 1: businesses to build up those different audiences into one great audience.
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  Speaker 1: So it's hugely beneficial to diverse storytellers. It really is personal,
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  Speaker 1: like you were saying, HBO and insecure and not in
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  Speaker 1: the HBO Max, which is their streaming affiliated. Really they're
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  Speaker 1: building that out more than they building that HBO because
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  Speaker 1: of the content can be found on HBO Max. And
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  Speaker 1: the beauty of what I like about there were about
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  Speaker 1: the whole world of streaming is that you know, from
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  Speaker 1: a movie, movie, movie selling, if you're a black lead,
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be domestic. They wouldn't even walk
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  Speaker 1: internationally with you, and so so a self fulfilling prophecy,
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  Speaker 1: right right, And so what you like, I'm just using
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  Speaker 1: Netflix as an example, a hundred in any countries. So
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  Speaker 1: when they premiere a Black project on Netflix. It premieres
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  Speaker 1: and a hundred in any countries, so there's no discrimination
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  Speaker 1: about the content and everybody gets an equal chance to
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  Speaker 1: enjoy the product. And I really feel that that's where
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  Speaker 1: we're going with it. And that's when I say, my
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  Speaker 1: have times Change and my have Chimes change is really tame.
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  Speaker 1: It's really tied to the content avenues that we get
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  Speaker 1: to tell our stories. And it's great people like you,
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  Speaker 1: Devil Martin Chase, they're telling it. They've changed Charge Chase tremendously,
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  Speaker 1: and I can't. I think it's it's it is. It
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  Speaker 1: is the streaming and cable and and and a different
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  Speaker 1: appetite and the demand for content. Mean, you know, content
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  Speaker 1: is needed across the board, and it's really realization that
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  Speaker 1: people will, you know that white people will watch shows
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  Speaker 1: with the Black League. I mean Shonda, you know, her
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  Speaker 1: shows are really important in in the dynamic of all this.
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  Speaker 1: Because Raising Anatomy came on with the fabulously diverse Castle
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  Speaker 1: was a huge hit and people say, Okay, you know
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be just one one that one
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  Speaker 1: black person. It can be black people in major roles.
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  Speaker 1: Then Scandal, Scandal was huge because you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: like the second show on network TV that had a
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  Speaker 1: black lead and in ABC was nervous at first, but
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  Speaker 1: to the Clinic, now you had Shonda, you had Channing
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  Speaker 1: Dungee was there, that was at a drama, and you
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  Speaker 1: it was hard not to cast a black woman and
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  Speaker 1: that was a huge success. And then it kind of
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  Speaker 1: went from there. So it's look, I'm just I'm happy
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  Speaker 1: to take advantage of where we are right now. Well,
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