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Judge Harboring a Gang Member, Trump Smacks down ABC News & DOGE finds Institute of Peace NOT so Peaceful Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center Ted Cruz week in Review,
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Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you, and here are the big stories
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Speaker 2: that you may have missed that we talked about this week.
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Speaker 2: First up, a New Mexico judge now behind bars for
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Speaker 2: housing an illegal gang member and the AG is not
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Speaker 2: backing down on activist judges either. I'll have that for
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Speaker 2: you in just a second. Also, Donald Trump ross ABC
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Speaker 2: News in a one hundred day interview in the Oval
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Speaker 2: office and what he had to say, it went viral,
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Speaker 2: and we'll play it for you as well. And finally,
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Speaker 2: DOGE and the Institute for Peace, well they're exposing they
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Speaker 2: weren't actually very peaceful. Is they were giving money to
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Speaker 2: former terrorist members. It's the weekend review and it starts
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Speaker 2: right now. So when you combine this and this these
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Speaker 2: types of arrests, there is no inclination here that this
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Speaker 2: is preemptively a idea or a mindset by the DOJ
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Speaker 2: or anybody else. This is reactionary to these activist judges,
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Speaker 2: and that's something that the media is also distorting.
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Speaker 1: Well it is, and I will say, look, there's another
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Speaker 1: story out of New Mexico, which is former Donya Anna
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Speaker 1: County Magistrate Judge Joel Kano sixty seven his wife, Nancy
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Speaker 1: Conos sixty eight are in custody right now. They were
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Speaker 1: arrested by Homeland Security at their La Cruze Las Cruces home.
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Speaker 1: They were arrested for harboring a gang member, a trender
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Speaker 1: Aragua gang member in their home. And this trend to
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Speaker 1: Iragua gang member. He's covered in gang tattoos, tattoos, and
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Speaker 1: the judge faces charges of tampering with evidence. Now you
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Speaker 1: know what he did? What was that he took this
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Speaker 1: Venezuelan gang member's cell phone, smashed it with a hammer
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Speaker 1: because it had incriminating evidence of the gang member with firearms.
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Speaker 1: And then he went and disposed of of the of
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Speaker 1: the cell phone. So who's trying to hide evidence? Now?
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Speaker 1: Do you know one of the pictures that was on
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Speaker 1: the cell phone allegedly that the judge destroyed with a hammer.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess it's probably one of those good old
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Speaker 2: gang sign pictures, right, because that's always what the gang
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Speaker 2: members have on their phone.
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Speaker 1: Now it's worse than that. It's a picture of two
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Speaker 1: victims who are decapitated. We're not talking nice, fuzzy friendly
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Speaker 1: gang members. We're not talking as the media loves to
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Speaker 1: call call the illegal immigrant up in Maryland a quote
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Speaker 1: Maryland band. This is a gang member who allegedly had
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Speaker 1: pictures of two people with their heads cut off on
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Speaker 1: the cell phone. And what does a Democrat judge do
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Speaker 1: in New Mexico, Well, you got a gang member. He says, Hey,
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Speaker 1: let me hide you in my house and here give
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Speaker 1: me that phone because they could use that to prosecute you.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to smash it with a hammer and dispose
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Speaker 1: of it so they don't have the evidence to convict you.
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Speaker 1: That is bizarre, and that is a Democrat judge.
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Speaker 2: The Attorney General, by the way, she came out strong
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Speaker 2: and said we're not backing down when we see this
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Speaker 2: type of activism. Here's part of what she had to
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Speaker 2: say on Fox.
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Speaker 3: And to set the stage for you and Sandra, this
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Speaker 3: was truly horrific. This guy was in court being prosecuted
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Speaker 3: by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery. He had
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Speaker 3: beat up two people, a guy and a girl. Beat
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Speaker 3: the guy, hit guy thirty times, knocked him to the ground,
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Speaker 3: choked him, beat up a woman so badly they both
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Speaker 3: had to go to the hospital. And John. You know,
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Speaker 3: it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate. They
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Speaker 3: wanted to cooperate. They were sitting in the courtroom with
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Speaker 3: the state prosecutor. The judge learns that Ice was outside
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Speaker 3: to get the guy because he had been deported in
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Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, came back in our country, commits these crimes,
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Speaker 3: charged with committing these crimes, victims in court. Judge finds out.
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Speaker 3: She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers.
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Speaker 3: She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk
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Speaker 3: to the chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom
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Speaker 3: here going to believe this, takes the defendant and the
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Speaker 3: defense attorney back in her chambers, takes them out of
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Speaker 3: private exit and tells them to leave. While a state
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Speaker 3: prosecutor and victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
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Speaker 2: You hear her explaining this, and you got to think
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Speaker 2: the majority of Americans, if they know that story, they're
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Speaker 2: going to be outraged, just as outrage as she is.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And I want to play
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Speaker 1: a second clip from Pambondi where she's talking about the
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Speaker 1: new Mexico judge, because this is not a crazy outlier. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: this is a pattern. Listen to the Attorney General talking
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Speaker 1: about this new Mexico judge harboring a trender Ragua gang
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Speaker 1: member in his home.
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Speaker 4: I mean, when you look at the associations with this
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Speaker 4: Violet Venezuelan gang Trende Arragua and this person that they
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Speaker 4: harbored in their home, he was showing signs through clothing,
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Speaker 4: We're told, tattoos. There was evidence through voice messages and
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Speaker 4: text messages of his association to TDA. So what charges
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Speaker 4: will Cano and his wife face if any?
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Speaker 3: So, Judge Cano seemed to be former Judge Cano got,
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Speaker 3: he got. His charges were just unsealed. He's charged with obstruction.
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Speaker 3: He is charged. He admitted posts Miranda, he took one
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Speaker 3: of the TDA members cell phones himself, took it, beat
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Speaker 3: it with a hammer, destroyed it, and then walked to
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Speaker 3: the pieces to a city dumpster to dispose of it
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Speaker 3: to protect him. The wife also is charged with destroying evidence, Sandra.
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Speaker 3: Not only that this TDA member and he had on
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Speaker 3: a necklace that said kill, something about death. He had
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Speaker 3: tattoos all over him. He also had on his cell
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Speaker 3: phone pictures of two decapitated victims, two victims, decapitated, gruesome photos,
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Speaker 3: and he was sending them out, and whoever he was
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Speaker 3: sending them to was sending back saying, Hey, you need
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Speaker 3: to be careful. You shouldn't be sending these You shouldn't
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Speaker 3: be texting these photos out. Not only that, these two
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Speaker 3: the judge and his wife gave him assault rifles that
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Speaker 3: belonged to their daughter. That's what they're charged with in
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Speaker 3: the criminal report. Effi, David. He goes to a shooting
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Speaker 3: range with these assault rifles with a suppressor, with other
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Speaker 3: known TDA members and they're shooting. This is the last
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Speaker 3: person that we want in our country, nor will we
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Speaker 3: ever tolerate a judge or anyone else harboring them lit.
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Speaker 2: I'm just so glad we have an attorney general. You're
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Speaker 2: good friends of Pam. We've had her on the show
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Speaker 2: that is able to articulate this the way that she
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Speaker 2: is to continue to combat the lies they're being put
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Speaker 2: out there about who is actually getting arrested, who were targeting,
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Speaker 2: and who we're trying to get out of the country.
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Speaker 1: No, that's exactly right, and it's the simple principle that
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Speaker 1: no one is above the law. Here's what Cash Betel,
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Speaker 1: the head of the FBI, to tweet it out. Quote
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Speaker 1: just now, the FBI arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
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Speaker 1: on charges of obstruction after evidence of Judge Dugan obstructing
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Speaker 1: an immigration arrest operation last week. We believe Judge Dugan
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Speaker 1: intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be
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Speaker 1: arrested in her courthouse Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject,
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Speaker 1: an illegal alien, to evade arrest. Thankfully, our agents chase
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Speaker 1: down the purp on foot and he's been in custody since.
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Speaker 1: But the judge's obstruction created increased danger to the public.
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Speaker 1: We will have more to share soon. Excellent work. And
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Speaker 1: then the Attorney General Pambondi, she tweeted, I can confirm
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Speaker 1: that our FBI agents just arrested Hanna Dugan, a county
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Speaker 1: judge in Milwaukee, for allegedly helping an illegal alien avoid
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Speaker 1: arrest by ice. No one is above the law. Somehow,
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Speaker 1: Democrats believe that if they don't like a law, they
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Speaker 1: can just ignore it. They can defy it, by the way,
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did that for four years,
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Speaker 1: they just utterly ignored federal immigration law. And unfortunately this
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Speaker 1: attitude of lawlessness, we're not bound by the law. Not
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Speaker 1: only that, we're going to actively fight federal law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: Who is trying to enforce the law, And what are
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Speaker 1: they doing this for. I mean, Ben seriously explained to me,
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Speaker 1: help me get in the head of let's say this,
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Speaker 1: New Mexico judge, New Mexico Judge, you and your wife say, hey,
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Speaker 1: we got some gang members from Venezuela. They're covered in tattoos,
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Speaker 1: They've got a necklace that says kill. They have cell
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Speaker 1: phones with pictures of people with their heads cut off.
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Speaker 1: Let's bring them to my house. Like, how explain to
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Speaker 1: me that thought process. My brain is not nimble enough
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Speaker 1: to get around this.
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Speaker 2: See this is where I think to myself. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: all right, well, then there's got to be some sort
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Speaker 2: of incentive that is connecting them. There's got to be
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Speaker 2: something to gain here personally, because I can't just imagine
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Speaker 2: this judge is just like, yeah, we genuinely want to
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Speaker 2: hang out with people that are celebrating or involved in
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Speaker 2: this type of criminal activity, including as you described it, beheadings.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, you and I watch breaking bad. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if this is a judge that's on the take,
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Speaker 1: if there's corruption, if he's been paid by the gang.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ideological and stupid or corrupt
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Speaker 1: or what. There's clearly more to this story we will learn,
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Speaker 1: but the facts on the face of it are astonishing.
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Speaker 1: And what's amazing, I don't know of a single Democrat
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Speaker 1: elected official who's denounced this conduct by the judges. Instead,
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Speaker 1: what they're saying is they're rushing to defend these judges
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Speaker 1: that are brazenly, brazenly defying the law.
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Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two.
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Speaker 1: Here's something else that President Trump said at the rally
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Speaker 1: where he actually reprised my favorite line from his State
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Speaker 1: of the Union address this year, where he talked about
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Speaker 1: how Joe Biden had said just one year earlier that
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Speaker 1: he the only way to secure the border is if
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Speaker 1: Congress passed new legislation. Give a listen to what President
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Speaker 1: Trump said.
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Speaker 5: For years, Joe Biden and the media told us that
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Speaker 5: stopping the flood of illegal immigration was absolutely impossible. He
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Speaker 5: said it was impossible. He didn't know what the hell
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Speaker 5: anybody was talking about. He said it was impossible. That
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Speaker 5: the president had no power to stop what was needed
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Speaker 5: in the form of legislation. He needed legislation, he had.
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Speaker 1: No power to get.
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Speaker 5: But it turned out that all we needed was a
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Speaker 5: new president.
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Speaker 2: He's right, all we need was a new president. And
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Speaker 2: they said that wouldn't even get it done. Well, guess what,
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Speaker 2: not only did you get it done, but even the
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Speaker 2: mainstream media now Senator is forced to report on just
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Speaker 2: how big of a victory this is for Trump at
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Speaker 2: the border. ABC News they put it this way in
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Speaker 2: their own interview with the President.
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Speaker 6: Here in the Oval office. It's special. One hundred days
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Speaker 6: into your second term. So what's the one thing, just
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Speaker 6: one thing that you think is the most significant thing
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Speaker 6: you've done so far in these hundred days.
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Speaker 7: Well, I think maybe the border is the most significant
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Speaker 7: because our country was.
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Speaker 6: Really going bad.
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Speaker 7: They were allowing people to come in from prisons, as
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Speaker 7: you know, and you've heard me say it, but you've
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Speaker 7: heard a lot of people say it. Prisons, mental institutions,
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Speaker 7: gang members, murderers, We had many murders, eleven eight hundred
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Speaker 7: and eighty eight. They think some murdered more than one person.
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Speaker 7: So yet murderers coming in. You had everybody coming in,
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Speaker 7: and not just South America, from all over the world
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Speaker 7: that were emptying their prisons into our country. And now
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Speaker 7: it's totally closed down. And you've seen just yesterday they
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Speaker 7: announced ninety nine point nine percent. Nobody thought that could happen.
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Speaker 7: Then it happened quickly, very quickly, and I think that's
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Speaker 7: very significant. But we're doing other things that are very significant.
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Speaker 7: Results will take a little bit longer because it's one
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Speaker 7: of those you know, it's complicated. It's many years of
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Speaker 7: trading abuse. We've been abused by other countries for years
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Speaker 7: and years. They laughed at us, they thought we were
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Speaker 7: stupid people. And we're fixing it. And I think that's
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Speaker 7: going to be very very important.
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Speaker 6: But I have a lot of ground to cover.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would really say that that the border is
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Speaker 7: so important, you know, just we'll get there.
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Speaker 6: The immigration is huge, and we're going to get there,
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Speaker 6: but I want to start.
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Speaker 2: You hear him say the southern border is totally closed
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Speaker 2: down ninety nine point nine percent. I'll be honest, I
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Speaker 2: don't even think Americans that voted for Donald Trump, that
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Speaker 2: believed in him, thought he could get this done this
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Speaker 2: quick with those types of numbers.
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Speaker 1: The numbers are staggering. He said, nobody believed we could
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Speaker 1: get there. I actually think that's wrong. I think Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump believed he could get there. He knew he could
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Speaker 1: get there. And I'll tell you, you and I we both
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Speaker 1: predicted it that we would see the numbers absolutely plummet.
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Speaker 1: Although it's a fair point, we said absolutely plummet. I
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Speaker 1: don't think I said ninety nine point nine percent. I
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Speaker 1: might have thought it'd be ninety percent or ninety five percent,
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Speaker 1: but ninety nine point nine is. To be honest, Trump
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Speaker 1: might even be surprised. It's that high. It's staggering, and
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Speaker 1: and it's an example of a commander in chief who's
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Speaker 1: actually following the law.
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Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 1: I got to say that ABC interview was really striking
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Speaker 1: that there's a great exchange where the ABC reporter comes
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Speaker 1: after him and Trump just just body slams him. Here here,
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Speaker 1: give a listen.
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Speaker 6: Do you think the reputation in the United States has
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Speaker 6: gone down under your presence?
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Speaker 7: No, I think it's gone way up. And I think
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Speaker 7: we're respected country again. We were left at all over
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Speaker 7: the world. We had a president that couldn't walk up
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Speaker 7: a flight of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight of stairs,
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Speaker 7: couldn't walk across the stage without falling. We had a
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Speaker 7: president that was grossly incompetent.
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Speaker 8: You knew it.
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Speaker 7: I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys
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Speaker 7: didn't want to write it because you're fake news.
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Speaker 6: All right, thank you.
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Speaker 7: By the way, ABC is one of the worst.
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Speaker 9: I have to be honest, Okay, thank you.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that that's just amazing. He's looking at the
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Speaker 2: main guy. He's like roasting them to their faces. He's like,
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Speaker 2: by the way, ABC, yeah, you're you guys, by the way,
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Speaker 2: one of the worst. He's like, thank you, we're going
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Speaker 2: to wrap now.
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Speaker 1: He's thank you. Think and you actually have to watch
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Speaker 1: it watching the and I will say, one of the
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Speaker 1: things Trump doesn't get nearly enough credit for it is
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Speaker 1: how damn funny he is where he's like, look, it's
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Speaker 1: one thing if he could just say, look, Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: wasn't competent.
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Speaker 7: But he's like, he.
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Speaker 1: Couldn't walk up the stairs, he couldn't walk down the stairs.
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Speaker 1: He falled, like you couldn't walk in the room like
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Speaker 1: it's just it is funny, but it's true, and he's right.
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Speaker 1: He's like, you knew it, I knew it, Everyone knew it,
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Speaker 1: and yet you were lying about it, and nobody in
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Speaker 1: the media. Have you seen a single maya culpa from
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Speaker 1: anyone in the media saying we knew Joe Biden wasn't
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Speaker 1: mentally incompetent and we deliberately lied to the American people
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Speaker 1: about it. Nobody's done that.
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Speaker 2: No, no one has it all. One other thing I
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Speaker 2: do have to say about all of this one hundred
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Speaker 2: days is the speed at which this administration is working
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Speaker 2: and how well this team is working in the White
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Speaker 2: House is really impressive. You and I have been over
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Speaker 2: there with Doge when we were interviewing Eglon Musk. I've
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Speaker 2: been back last week as well to the White House.
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Speaker 2: This team around him is just incredible compared to what
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Speaker 2: he had in twenty sixteen, and I think that's part
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Speaker 2: of the reason why he's getting so much done. Would
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Speaker 2: you agree with that.
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Speaker 7: But fully agree.
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Speaker 1: I think the cabinet is much stronger than the twenty
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Speaker 1: sixteen or the twenty seventeen cabinet. I think in the
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Speaker 1: first term, he made some appointment that frankly did not
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Speaker 1: serve him well. He put people in place who disagreed
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Speaker 1: with him, who undermined him. And I think this second term,
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Speaker 1: I think he learned. I think he learned during the
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Speaker 1: four years of his first term as president. I think
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Speaker 1: he learned during the four years he was out of office.
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Speaker 1: I think he had a lot of time to think
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Speaker 1: about if and when he came back, what he would do.
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Speaker 1: And I think he put in place change agents. And
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Speaker 1: you know, there's another exchange in that ABC News interview
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Speaker 1: that I really like, where ABC News is defending illeal
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Speaker 1: immigration and the open borders under the Democrats, and he
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Speaker 1: just utterly calls them out here, give and listen to
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Speaker 1: that you're talking about.
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Speaker 7: You know, you're making this person sound This is a
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Speaker 7: MS thirteen gang member, a tough cookie, been in lots
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Speaker 7: of skirmishes, beat the hell out of his wife, and
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Speaker 7: the wife was petrified to even talk about him. Okay,
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Speaker 7: this is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman from Man.
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's a good guy. It's about the
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Speaker 6: rule of law. The order from the Supreme Court stamp
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Speaker 6: into our country illegally you could.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I love it. He's not going to back down.
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Speaker 2: He's not afraid of the guys in the press at all.
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Speaker 1: And the Democrats, you want to talk about stepping into
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Speaker 1: their trap. The Democrats have happily embraced we, the Democrat Party,
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Speaker 1: are the party of illegal immigrants. We are the party
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Speaker 1: of gang members. We are you know are pod two
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Speaker 1: days ago if you didn't listen to it. Really is astonishing.
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Speaker 1: They're two different Democrat judges in jail right now for
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Speaker 1: obstructing justice, for blocking federal law enforcement for arresting illegal immigrants,
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Speaker 1: and one of the two at a judge from New Mexico,
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Speaker 1: is charged with sheltering a trend de Aragua Venezuelan gang
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Speaker 1: member in his home and destroying evidence. It's really shocking.
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Speaker 1: So this gang member had a cell phone, and this
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Speaker 1: Democrat judge took the cell phone, smashed it with a hammer,
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Speaker 1: went and threw the cell phone away in a dumpster,
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Speaker 1: all in an effort to cover up the evidence of
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Speaker 1: this gang member's criminality. And one of the astonishing things
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Speaker 1: that the Department of Justice has told us is that
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Speaker 1: cell phone that the Democrat judge destroyed had pictures of
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Speaker 1: two people who had been decapitated, two victims presumably of
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Speaker 1: gang violence who had their heads cut off, and ben like, like,
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Speaker 1: what does it say that today's Democrat party what they're
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Speaker 1: about is there for venezuela and gang members who cut
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Speaker 1: people's heads off. Literally, I don't know how you could
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Speaker 1: be in a more radical position than where they are
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Speaker 1: right now as before.
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Speaker 2: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
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Speaker 2: on this topic, you can go back and dow the
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Speaker 2: podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.
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Speaker 2: I want to get back to the big story number
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Speaker 2: three of the week you may have missed center. I
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Speaker 2: want to talk about what we just found out with
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Speaker 2: DOGE and and I think it's an important point to
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Speaker 2: reset because we saw a lot of oppress about DOAGE
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Speaker 2: early on. We've now moved on to other topics, or
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Speaker 2: I should say the media has moved on to other topics.
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Speaker 2: It does not mean that Elon Musk and the DOGE
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Speaker 2: staff have stopped doing their job. In fact, they are
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Speaker 2: still finding incredible amounts of waste, fraud and abuse. And
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Speaker 2: they sat down with Jesse Waters at Fox to kind
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Speaker 2: of give an update of like, hey, here we are
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Speaker 2: It was also a very cool interview because what we're
19:26
Speaker 2: witnessing is Elon Musk showing these do gooders that he
19:31
Speaker 2: has brought in they can be making a lot more
19:33
Speaker 2: money in the private sector. There are a lot of young,
19:36
Speaker 2: brilliant minds that are finding all of this information and
19:40
Speaker 2: digging and digging in our government, and he's letting them
19:43
Speaker 2: tell the stories of what they're finding. I love this
19:45
Speaker 2: management style from him.
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Speaker 1: Well, I got to say, every week they're new bombshells
19:50
Speaker 1: that are coming out from doze of just astonishing waste,
19:54
Speaker 1: fraud and abuse. And so this latest interview that the
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Speaker 1: Elon did with Jesse Waters, he laid out, for example,
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Speaker 1: that the Institute of Peace had a one hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars contract with a former member of the Taliban.
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Speaker 1: Now now just let that sink in.
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Speaker 10: For a minute.
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Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty grand to a former member of
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Speaker 1: the Taliban, and that is from the quote Institute of Peace.
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Speaker 1: Nothing like paying a terrorist if you're the Institute of Peace.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, that same institute a piece deleted
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Speaker 1: one terabyte of accounting records when DOGE entered their headquarters.
20:38
Speaker 1: So they came in I got to tell you. If
20:40
Speaker 1: you're prosecuting criminal conduct at a court of law and
20:44
Speaker 1: a defendant destroys evidence, deletes data on their computer, burns papers,
20:51
Speaker 1: burns receipts, burns photographs, that can be taken as evidence
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Speaker 1: of guilt the fact that you are deleting evidence. But
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Speaker 1: here give a listen to the description of what they
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Speaker 1: found about from the Institute a piece.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, so it was by far the least peaceful agency
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Speaker 9: that we've worked with. Ironically, of course, Additionally, we found
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Speaker 9: that they were spending money on things like private jets,
21:13
Speaker 9: and they even had a one hundred and thirty thousand
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Speaker 9: dollars contract with a former member of the Taliban.
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Speaker 11: This is real. We don't encounter that at most agencies.
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Speaker 12: What was the money going to the Taliban for?
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Speaker 11: So it was a contractor.
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Speaker 9: They received one hundred and thirty thousand dollars for generic services,
21:29
Speaker 9: And to Elon's point, there was not actually a clear
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Speaker 9: description of what the contractor services were for.
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Speaker 11: But was it for opium unclear? Or weapons? Yeah? Or
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Speaker 11: nothing for a broad or yeah?
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Speaker 9: And you naturally have to ask the question how did
21:46
Speaker 9: we get here? Like when the country was founded, there
21:47
Speaker 9: were only four agencies. Today there are over four hundred,
21:51
Speaker 9: so there's been a one hundred xc increase in the
21:53
Speaker 9: number of agencies since the.
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Speaker 11: Foundering of the nation.
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Speaker 9: And thanks to President Trump, he's now signed to executive
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Speaker 9: orders to start to reduce the number of Asians season
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Speaker 9: the government and the Institute Apiece was one of them,
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Speaker 9: which is why our team went into try and understand
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Speaker 9: what was going on, and that's when we found all
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Speaker 9: the craziness, like the weapons and their armory. We found
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Speaker 9: the payments to the Taliban.
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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that the evidence, right.
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Speaker 9: So just a few hours after we got into their headquarters,
22:18
Speaker 9: we found that their chief accountant had actually deleted over
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Speaker 9: a terabyte.
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Speaker 11: Of accounting records from several leaders.
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Speaker 9: So you'd have to ask the question, well, why would
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Speaker 9: somebody do that if the Doch team fortunately was able
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Speaker 9: to recover that data with the help of a few
22:28
Speaker 9: great employees at the Institute a Piece. And I think
22:30
Speaker 9: the most troubling thing was they received fifty five million
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Speaker 9: dollars a year from Congress, and any money that went unspent,
22:36
Speaker 9: instead of returning that to Congress, they would sweep it
22:38
Speaker 9: into a private bank account which had no Congressional oversight.
22:42
Speaker 9: And that's what they would use to fund things like
22:44
Speaker 9: events at their headquarters and the private jets. And so
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Speaker 9: I think it's a great example because most Americans don't
22:50
Speaker 9: know what's going on at a lot of these smaller agencies,
22:53
Speaker 9: and this is a I think the most extreme case
22:54
Speaker 9: of some of the.
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Speaker 11: Wasteful spend that we're finding.
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Speaker 12: So the agencies are high money from you, they're sending
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Speaker 12: into the Taliban. They have loaded weapons in the.
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Speaker 11: Department buildings at the Institute of Peace.
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Speaker 12: At the Institute of Peace, that's right, So this is
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Speaker 12: a cover up.
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Speaker 13: When you guys roll in this wanted a cover up,
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Speaker 13: they delete a vast amount of financial information. That's really
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Speaker 13: a definition of a cover up.
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Speaker 11: Isn't that illegal to delete evidence? Yes, shred documents?
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Speaker 8: It is.
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Speaker 9: It's it's certainly illegal to delete accounting records that the
23:31
Speaker 9: Congress would certainly want to know where the Congressional appropriated
23:34
Speaker 9: funds are going from taxpayers.
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Speaker 12: When you catch them going Hillary style on their computers,
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Speaker 12: do you refer this to the Department of Justice?
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Speaker 9: In this case, we did refer the evidence in the
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Speaker 9: accounting example to the FBI and d OJ.
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Speaker 11: We're proud to do that. So yes, we did. Instance
23:52
Speaker 11: has shown.
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Speaker 2: I mean, let's just go back to what you said
23:56
Speaker 2: center a moment ago and and dive into this a
23:58
Speaker 2: little bit more. If this is that type of activity,
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Speaker 2: in this type of cover up and referring this to
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Speaker 2: the DOJ, what would the next step be on that?
24:09
Speaker 2: And then also what can Congress do if anything, knowing
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Speaker 2: now what they've just told you.
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Speaker 1: Look, I got to say almost every word of that
24:17
Speaker 1: is shocking. That they gave one hundred and thirty grand
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Speaker 1: to a for a member of the Taliban, that's astonishing.
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Speaker 1: That they spent taxpayer money on private jets. That's astonishing.
24:29
Speaker 1: That the Institute of Peace had an armory with a
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Speaker 1: whole bunch of weapons. Now let me repeat that the
24:36
Speaker 1: Institute of Peace apparently felt the need to be packing
24:40
Speaker 1: and when does showed up, they started deleting their accounting records,
24:45
Speaker 1: which screams guilt. By the way, when when President Trump
24:48
Speaker 1: did the interview with ABC News in the Oval, one
24:51
Speaker 1: of the things ABC News says as well, there have
24:53
Speaker 1: been no referrals to the Apartment of Justice, and President
24:56
Speaker 1: Trump quite rightly says, how do you know that, Well,
24:59
Speaker 1: this is this is one. It turns out there have
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Speaker 1: been multiple referrals to the Apartment of Justice for fraud.
25:05
Speaker 1: It's just ABC News doesn't want people to know that. Here,
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Speaker 1: I want you to listen to another clip. This is
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Speaker 1: another clip where the Department of Education had a four
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Speaker 1: billion dollar COVID fund that let government employees draw down.
25:19
Speaker 1: They used it for things like parties and to rent
25:22
Speaker 1: out venues like Caesar's Palace. Give a listen.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, there was a four billion dollar COVID fund in
25:29
Speaker 8: the Department of Education and there was no receipts required,
25:32
Speaker 8: so people we just drawed down on it. And when
25:34
Speaker 8: people looked into it, this wasn't just this was before us.
25:37
Speaker 8: They found that money was being used to rent out
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Speaker 8: Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums, et cetera. And
25:43
Speaker 8: so the one change that Doze made with our education
25:46
Speaker 8: is we had the simple requirement that if you draw
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Speaker 8: down money, you must first upload a receipt. That was
25:52
Speaker 8: the only change that was made. You must upload your receipt,
25:54
Speaker 8: and upon doing so, nobody drew down any money anymore.
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Speaker 10: Yes, but we didn't say that we'd checked the receipt.
26:01
Speaker 10: You could send a fank receipt, you could send a
26:03
Speaker 10: picture of your dog, anything, anything, anything, And as soon
26:10
Speaker 10: as we asked for anything at all, that something, the
26:14
Speaker 10: requests were like, Oh, we don't need it anymore. That's interesting.
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Speaker 11: They were renting Caesar's palace.
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Speaker 10: Yes, they're like basically partying on the tax chair.
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Speaker 2: Of money, basically partying on the taxpayer's money. Okay, it
26:27
Speaker 2: sounds criminal.
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Speaker 1: Let me just ask, like, like the man on the street,
26:33
Speaker 1: did you think the Department of Education was spending your money,
26:39
Speaker 1: your taxpayer money to rent out Caesar's palace. That is
26:44
Speaker 1: the very definition of waste, fraud and abuse. Four billion
26:48
Speaker 1: dollars in a COVID slush fund with zero receipts required.
26:53
Speaker 1: Let me just say thank god for President Trump and
26:55
Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Doge uncovering this revealing it because it
27:00
Speaker 1: is completely indefensible. And by the way, the Democrats, just
27:03
Speaker 1: like they've decided they're all in for illegal immigrants and
27:05
Speaker 1: gang members and violent criminals and white theaters, they're also
27:09
Speaker 1: all in for this kind of waste, fraud and abuse,
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Speaker 1: including renting out Caesar's palace with your tax payer money.
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