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Now that McCarthy is Out, What's Next? · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy is out as a Speaker of the House.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: The question now is what happens next. I'm being told
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: there's a very good chance it could be Steve Scalise.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Would Steve Scalise be a great speaker. I do believe
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: that he would be a great speaker. Steve Scalise is
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  Speaker 1: a man. If you remember that was practicing for that
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: congressional football game when that attempted mass murderer and a
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: mass shooter decided to start mowing down Conservatives who were
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: practicing for that game. Steve Scalise was one of those
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: that was hurt very badly. He was able to come
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: back from that. I'm being told that there's a very
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: good chance that Steve Scalise could get the speakership. Now.
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: Is that an improvement over Kevin McCarthy. Probably? And I
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  Speaker 1: also think that we need to get this done very quickly.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: We know now that Kevin McCarthy is not gonna run.
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  Speaker 1: He said that in conference and made it very clear.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: Congressman Matt Gates gave his remarks after the removal of
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  Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy outside of the capital to the media, and
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  Speaker 1: I want you to hear what he said. Listen carefully,
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  Speaker 1: you'll hear the reporters yelling their question and what was.
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  Speaker 2: Going through your head? Let the vote gattle down, and
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  Speaker 2: it was a special McCarthy wasn't speak there.
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  Speaker 3: Just we got to move to the next step. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we are not at the end of this process. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: at most, we're approaching halftime. We've got to be able
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  Speaker 3: to assemble a governing coalition.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: We have to.
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  Speaker 3: Build from a place of trust. The reason Kevin McCarthy
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  Speaker 3: went down today is because nobody trusts Kevin McCarthy. Kevin
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  Speaker 3: McCarthy has made multiple contradictory promises and when they all
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  Speaker 3: came to lost, He lost votes of people who maybe
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  Speaker 3: don't even ideologically agree with me on everything. Take for example,
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  Speaker 3: my colleague from South Carolina, Miss Mace. She's she has
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  Speaker 3: different views than I do on a variety of subjects,
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  Speaker 3: but what we had in common Kevin McCarthy lied on
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  Speaker 3: the cross online.
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  Speaker 2: Second, you're saying that nobody trusts Kevin McCarthy, you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about coding yourself about seven Republicans compared to about two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and.
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  Speaker 1: Somewhat Republicans who actually do trust him. So can you
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  Speaker 1: kind of explain.
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  Speaker 3: As it turns out, getting two hundred Republicans to trust
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  Speaker 3: you isn't enough to stay speaker compared to Republicans.
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  Speaker 2: Have you spoken to former President Trump about this since
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  Speaker 2: the ousting?
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  Speaker 4: Was he supportive of the.
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  Speaker 1: What what you were doing?
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  Speaker 3: I have spoken to President Trump over the last several days.
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  Speaker 3: The ousting only occurred several minutes ago, so we haven't spoken.
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  Speaker 5: President put on your scial that he didn't think this
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  Speaker 5: was a good idea.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't want to see Republicans fighting with other Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: How do you respond to the former president?
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  Speaker 3: I would uh. I would say that my conversations with
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  Speaker 3: the former president leave me with great confidence that I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing the right thing.
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  Speaker 4: Did the President call you today?
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  Speaker 1: The agenda and the.
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  Speaker 3: I would say that the conservative agenda was being paralyzed
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  Speaker 3: by Speaker McCarthy's we have Krthy.
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  Speaker 1: We hadn't even said you listened to Matt Gates there,
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  Speaker 1: and Matt h is loving this moment. I do think
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  Speaker 1: there's a very interesting parallel between Matt Gates and Ross Parrot.
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  Speaker 1: Ross Parrot, if you know the history of why he
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  Speaker 1: decided to run against George Bush, was he just didn't
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  Speaker 1: want George Bush to be president. He didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: be president himself. Ross Parrow actually did not want to
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  Speaker 1: be president. He just wanted to make sure that George
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  Speaker 1: Bush did didn't get to keep his job as president.
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  Speaker 1: And ross parrou had what Summer referred to as the
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  Speaker 1: blank U money. He had enough cash to finance his
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  Speaker 1: own campaign, and he thought, I can probably find enough
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  Speaker 1: disgruntled conservatives, libertarians, those that are tired of the establishment,
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  Speaker 1: and those that I can convince to be tired of
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  Speaker 1: George Bush that I can cost him the presidency, which
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  Speaker 1: ultimately gave you Bill Clinton. There is no way in
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  Speaker 1: the polling that Bill Clinton would have won that election
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  Speaker 1: if it wasn't for ross Paro stealing more votes from
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  Speaker 1: Bush than he stole from Clinton. Yeah, he's still from
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  Speaker 1: Clinton too, but he stole more votes, almost a two
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  Speaker 1: to one margin, from Bush than he stole from Clinton.
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  Speaker 1: So ross Perrot got what he wanted. He wanted to
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  Speaker 1: cost George Bush the presidency, and he did it. And
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  Speaker 1: then what he did, he went away. Matt Gates hates
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  Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy hates Matt Gates. You have to
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  Speaker 1: ask yourself this question, was this for the go of
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  Speaker 1: country or was this because Matt Gates hates McCarthy and
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy hates Matt Gates. You know, if you look at
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  Speaker 1: take politics out for a second. I'm just saying how
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  Speaker 1: childish this was. At the end, Kevin McCarthy tweeted out,
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  Speaker 1: and this is a dumb tweet for the speaker to
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  Speaker 1: tweet out, bring it on. He was in response to
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  Speaker 1: Ken McCarthy saying, all right, excuse me, in response to
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  Speaker 1: Matt Gates saying I'm gonna bring this vote, and he
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  Speaker 1: said bring it on. And then what happened was the
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  Speaker 1: wheels came off and Matt Gates and seven other Republicans
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  Speaker 1: did this, be clear, with one hundred percent Democratic support.
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  Speaker 1: They did this by working with all of the Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: I having some of the Democrats, all of the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: over throw Kevin McCarthy and Matt Gates's response was after
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  Speaker 1: the vote, I just did. Now. Some would say that's
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  Speaker 1: an unbelievable amount of power. Others would see that is
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  Speaker 1: total chaos. Matt Gates is you know, he likes being
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  Speaker 1: the least liked conservative in the room in Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 1: He likes going out to conservative events and being cheered.
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  Speaker 1: He likes being famous, he loves this amount of attention.
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  Speaker 1: I know Matt Gates, Okay, I know him well. I
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  Speaker 1: have a cell phone number, he has mine, and we've
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  Speaker 1: been friendly throughout our career. We've had dinner together, we
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  Speaker 1: have been backstage together, We've spoken at different conservative events together.
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  Speaker 1: But Matt Gates, to be is about Matt Gates. Now,
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  Speaker 1: there's one. I have two problems with how this went down,
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  Speaker 1: and none of this has to do with Ken McCarthy,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. Number one, the timing this of this
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  Speaker 1: was incredibly incompetent. You had yesterday when this was going on.
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  Speaker 1: On the same day this was going on, you had
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  Speaker 1: Hunter Biden in a courtroom, in a federal courtroom for
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  Speaker 1: gun charges against him. You know what, the media didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to cover Hunter Biden pleading not guilty to crimes
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  Speaker 1: that he has committed in a federal courtroom. You had
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  Speaker 1: a media that got a pass and said, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to cover that now because for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in the United States history, on the same exact day, okay,
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  Speaker 1: on the same day, we're getting rid of a speaker
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  Speaker 1: and an infighting, I get to cover that instead. And
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  Speaker 1: that was a stupid move. This vote should have not
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  Speaker 1: been brought up on the same day. This should have
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  Speaker 1: been tabled till today, till the next day, till tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: and made sure that we had a news cycle where
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  Speaker 1: you had to cover the President United It's America's son
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  Speaker 1: in court in a federal courtroom having to plead not guilty.
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  Speaker 1: The second part of this is who's going to be better?
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  Speaker 1: Who is the next person. I'm hearing Steve Scalise is
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  Speaker 1: the front runner at this point. That obviously can change.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bunch of people that are obsessed with it
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  Speaker 1: being Donald Trump. I don't think Donald Trump wants this job,
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  Speaker 1: so that's a waste of time. He's running for president.
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  Speaker 1: But Matt Gates doesn't have a better name. It's not him.
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  Speaker 1: But I think ultimately he got what he wanted. He
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  Speaker 1: got more followers on Twitter, Facebook, his name id went up.
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  Speaker 1: He can fundraise off of this, and he has the
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  Speaker 1: idea of the mentality of burned the whole place down.
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  Speaker 1: And there are people that love that. But is it
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  Speaker 1: good for the Republican Party when it comes to the nation. No,
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of independent voters right now. They're
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  Speaker 1: thinking this party is a bunch of yahoos, and they're
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  Speaker 1: got to fix this pretty quick. I'm being told by
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  Speaker 1: quite a few sources and quite a few Congress people
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  Speaker 1: that the top Republican at this moment is represented to Scalise.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Scalise is working behind the scenes to replace Ken
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy as a speaker. And this is something that Steve Scalise,
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  Speaker 1: who is also the House Majority leader, he's a Republican
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  Speaker 1: from Louisiana, is seeking support hard like full court press
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  Speaker 1: to replace Kevin McCarthy. Sources are now saying, and have
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  Speaker 1: also now said to Fox News that Scalise has been
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  Speaker 1: making calls behind the scenes to shore up support ahead
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  Speaker 1: of a possible vote as early as Wednesday afternoon. Now
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  Speaker 1: that timeline may work. It could be later, but what
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  Speaker 1: we know is Representative Matt Gates, who introduced the motion
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  Speaker 1: to vacate against McCarthy that ultimately led to his removal.
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  Speaker 1: Total reporters yesterday afternoon that Scalise would be quote a
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  Speaker 1: phenomenal speaker. Now that's the only person that he has
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  Speaker 1: said that he would support publicly, besides I think Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: and there's no chance in how Donald Trump's going to
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  Speaker 1: do this. McCarthy was temporarily replaced, as you know, by
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  Speaker 1: Representative Patrick McHenry, Republican, North Carolina. The new Speaker pro
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  Speaker 1: tim of the House will preside over the chamber until
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  Speaker 1: a new speaker is elected. Now, McCarthy has made it
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  Speaker 1: clear I'm not going to run, and even mentioned or
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  Speaker 1: alluded to the fact he may just resign from Congress altogether.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll do that. I don't really
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  Speaker 1: care if he decides to resign, fine, it doesn't bother
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  Speaker 1: me a bit. Representative Greg Murphy, Republican, North Carolina also
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  Speaker 1: said he has plans to have a candidate forum and
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  Speaker 1: a vote on who would succeed McCarthy again. He says
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  Speaker 1: this is important for us to do as fast as possible,
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  Speaker 1: possibly as early as Wednesday. Eight Republicans quitting Gates who
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  Speaker 1: joined all Democrats and voting in McCarthy's continued speakership, have
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: also alluded to the fact, several of them that they
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: would support Steve Scalise, now the House majority whip. Tom
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  Speaker 1: Emmer suggested also that Scalise would be make a good speaker.
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  Speaker 1: Scalise told reporters following a Republican leadership meeting that he
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  Speaker 1: didn't have anything to quote announce, which is probably very smart.
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  Speaker 1: I'm also being told that Steve Scalise has made it
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  Speaker 1: clear that he would only want this job for the
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: rest of the term, okay, the rest of the term
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  Speaker 1: meeting until the next election, and then he would not
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  Speaker 1: want re election. He would say, hey, I'll continue this
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  Speaker 1: congressional term of this Congress and that's it. Now, there's
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  Speaker 1: a couple of reasons why that may happen. Many people
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  Speaker 1: don't know this, but Steve Scalise has been diagnosed with
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: blood cancer earlier this year. People have asked, hey, is
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  Speaker 1: he physically have to do the job a speaker? He
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  Speaker 1: said he feels great when he was asked that question,
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: but he does have h He has been diagnosed with
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: blood cancer. He's obviously in treatment for that. That's another
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  Speaker 1: reason why I think he could say, Hey, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: guy that you can trust. I'm a guy that cares
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  Speaker 1: about this country. I'm fighting for my life with his
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  Speaker 1: blood cancer. I want to serve my country. I have
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  Speaker 1: served my country, have almost died for my country when
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  Speaker 1: I was shot, and I am a guy that is
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  Speaker 1: going to do whatever I can to help this country.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Scalise is liked by a lot of people. There's
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  Speaker 1: also this pipe dream which is annoying to me. And
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  Speaker 1: that pipe dream is this idea that Donald Trump would
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  Speaker 1: be the speaker. This is a waste of time. Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump is not going to be the speaker. And this
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  Speaker 1: is part of the unrealistic mentality of some of the
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party who float this. Sean Hannity asked Jim Jordan
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  Speaker 1: about this last night.
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  Speaker 5: And people, and you do not need to compromise on
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  Speaker 5: last question. I've now heard from a number of people.
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  Speaker 5: I know for a fact Donald Trump has been contacted
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  Speaker 5: about possibly him being an interim speaker. Is that a reality.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, he'd be great, but I actually I
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  Speaker 7: want Donald Trump to be the next president United States.
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  Speaker 7: If he wants to be speaking, I want him to
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  Speaker 7: be president.
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  Speaker 5: He's still going to be running for president.
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  Speaker 7: That's where we need him is at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue.
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  Speaker 7: If he wants to be a speaker, then that's fine too.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Well, I think you do want temporarily to
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  Speaker 5: get at the same time.
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  Speaker 7: You can do it at the same time.
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  Speaker 8: I get to that.
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  Speaker 5: You probably could, all right, Thank you, Jim.
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  Speaker 1: I love by the way, how Jim Jordan handled that,
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  Speaker 1: like you can't do both the same time. You can't
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  Speaker 1: do both at the same time. He's right. So this
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  Speaker 1: is now where we are. We are at a point
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  Speaker 1: where we don't have a speaker. We need a speaker.
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  Speaker 1: We need somebody that everybody can agree on, and we
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  Speaker 1: need to move on from this quick now. If we
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  Speaker 1: do that quickly, then are we in a good place
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  Speaker 1: moving forward? I think we will be representative Gaminez. He
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  Speaker 1: was asked about all of this and about the chaos
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  Speaker 1: and within the Republican Party and just how chaotic the
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party has gotten. I want you to hear how
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  Speaker 1: he explained it in his words, because this is what
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  Speaker 1: we have to move forward to listen, I don't.
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  Speaker 9: Think you know, McCarthy got up, by the way, said
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  Speaker 9: he wasn't gonna that he that he wasn't going to
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  Speaker 9: be runny anymore. And then there was a lot of
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  Speaker 9: emotion in that room. A lot of people are very
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  Speaker 9: disappointed Sawtiers. You know, look, he's been a really good speaker,
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  Speaker 9: he's a really good person, and he didn't deserve what happened.
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  Speaker 1: In the day.
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  Speaker 10: Gates needed Democrats to get this done. Yeah, so what
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  Speaker 10: do you think of that dynamic, the fact that Democrats
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  Speaker 10: helped him do this? Do you find it ironic at all?
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  Speaker 10: Another criticism? I find it hypocritical.
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  Speaker 9: And he said that somehow McCarthy made some kind of
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  Speaker 9: deal with the Democrats to save his speakership winning in
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  Speaker 9: fact did not obviously, but then Gates needed those same
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  Speaker 9: Democrats in order to house McCarthy. That shows the depocrisy
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  Speaker 9: of Matt Gates, and that's why he's not really well
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  Speaker 9: liked within our conference. Matt Gates is about Matt Gates,
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  Speaker 9: not about the American people, not about the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 1: He's certainly not about America.
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  Speaker 9: It's all about mac Gates.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about Matt Gates. That seems to be the
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  Speaker 1: consensus by a lot of Republicans. Remember, if it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: for the eight Republicans voting with all of the Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't do this. So these bigs Bucks, Birchett, Crane, Gates,
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  Speaker 1: Good Mace, Rosendale, they all voted with Democrats to make
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  Speaker 1: this happen. And there are a lot of Congress people
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  Speaker 1: now and I really don't think Gates cares. He loves
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  Speaker 1: this limelight, this moment, and he's going to enjoy every
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  Speaker 1: part of this. Kevin McCarthy, I gotta go back to
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  Speaker 1: what he said now, I've made peace with it. Kevin
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy says, I will not seek to regain the Speaker's gavel.
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  Speaker 1: I've made peace with it. That's my plan. You guys
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  Speaker 1: can have it. The house is on fire. Knock yourself
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  Speaker 1: out right.
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  Speaker 2: That's ended up being the fifty fifth Speaker of the
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  Speaker 2: House one of the greatest honors. I loved every minute.
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  Speaker 2: And the one thing I will tell you is doing
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  Speaker 2: the right thing isn't always easy, but it is necessary.
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  Speaker 2: I don't regret standing up for choosing governing over grievance.
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  Speaker 2: It is my responsibility, it is my job. I do
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  Speaker 2: not regret negotiating. Our government is designed to find compromise.
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  Speaker 2: I don't regret my efforts to build coalitions and find solutions.
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  Speaker 2: I was raised to solve problems, not create them. So
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  Speaker 2: I may have lost a vote today, but as I
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  Speaker 2: walk out of this chamber, I feel fortunate to have
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: served the American people. I leave the Speakership with a
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  Speaker 2: sense of pride, accomplishment, and yes optimism. From the day
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  Speaker 2: I enter politics, my mission has always been to make
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow better than today. I fought for what I believe in,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: and I believe in this country of America. My goals
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: have not changed. My ability to fight is just in
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  Speaker 2: a different form. You need two eighteens. Unfortunately, four percent
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: of our conference can join all the Democrats and dictate
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  Speaker 2: who can be the Republican speaker in this House. I
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: don't think that rule is good for the institution, but
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  Speaker 2: apparently I'm the only one. I can continue to fight.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe in a different manner. I will not run for
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  Speaker 2: speaker again. I'll have the conference pick somebody else. I
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  Speaker 2: hope you realize that every day I did the job,
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  Speaker 2: regardless whether you underestimated me or not, I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do it. With a smile. I grew to enjoy you,
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  Speaker 2: even on your toughest days and your questions. I could
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: always tell what day it was based upon your question.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Monday you would ask if I could pass the bill.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Tuesday was whether the rule would pass. Wednesday was the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: greatest challenge ever to my speakership. And Thursday, when we
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: passed the bill, you didn't think it was a very
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: big deal. And it'll all started again on Friday. Yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't change a thing. I do believe
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I got a new portrait in there too, of Teddy Roosevelt.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: You all know the man in the arena, one of
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: my favorite parts of it. Who errors, who comes up
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: short again and again, but there is no effort without
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: error and shortcoming. Who spends himself in a worthy cause,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: who knows the triumph of high achievement, and if he fails,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: at least he fails well daring greatly. I always like
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: to take a risk.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I always like to take a risk. Kevin McCarthy will
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: not seek to regain a speaker's gabble. He made that clear.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: That were his closing remarks, basically saying my good luck.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: He also alluded to maybe just leaving Congress saying I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: believe I can continue to fight, maybe in a different manner.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I think there's a very good chance he's going to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: cash out of Washington and he'll cash right back in
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: as a lobbyist and make a killing. He's probably if
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: i'm again, and this is the Kevin McCarthy that I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: know my gut is exactly what he's going to do.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent what he's going to do. I'm
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: gonna cash in. I'm gonna make a bunch of money.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: You guys didn't let me do it the way I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: wanted to, and therefore this is what I've got moving forward.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I wish this wouldn't have happened this way. I think
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the timing was terrible. I think giving a free pass
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to Hunter Biden on the days in Federal Court and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: in the Republican Party, giving this news cycle to the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: media and the Democrats was just amazing. I think there's
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people out there that are just totally
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: out to lunch and how it's so unrealistic about reality.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: An example of that is this draft Trump movement. Donald
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Trump doesn't want to be Speaker of the House. I
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: want to make that clear. Yet there is a bunch
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: of people that are obsessed with it. I mean there's
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people that are obsessed with something that,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: let me say, this way is not going to happen.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And there are people that love this idea of oh,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: let's put Trump in there. It's not going to happen.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: We look dumb when we have conversations about things that
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: aren't going to happen. Last not on Hannity, this was
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: what they.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Said history on Capitol Hill tonight, eight Republican lawmakers joining
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: all two hundred and eight House Democrats to remove Kevin
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: McCarthy as House Speaker the first time in our nation's history.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: And McCarthy will not seek the speakership again now, sources
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: telling me at this hour some House Republicans have been
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: in contact with and have started an effort to draft
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: former President Donald Trump to be the next speaker. And
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: I have been told that President Trump might be open
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: to helping the Republican Party at least in the short term,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: if necessary, if it's needed anyway. But here's former Speaker
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: McCarthy earlier tonight. Let's take a look.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I believe I can continue.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: To I want to just say when we start off
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: by saying these things like right that, well there's a
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: plan to draft him, it will not happen. We look stupid,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: we look incompetent. This is a problem. The RNC chair
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: has come out saying that the American people are the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: ones who really lost yesterday. Their business isn't being done
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: when Washington is shut down. I can't disagree with that,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: so we better get our act together quick. Matt Gates
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: had his day, he made his point right, but the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: idea that we can somehow do this and win is
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a disaster. The RNC chairwoman saying exactly that. I agree.
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: Listen, you play Matt Gates and the rebels on the
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: conservative side should they have not taken this step in
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: their frustration.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: I'm going to be a happy warrior like Kevin McCarthy,
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: and I'm going to say, let's just get the business
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: of the American people done. Let's get this speaker vote done.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: Let's make sure we don't have this motion to vacate
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: so we don't have chaos again. We can't do this
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: next year. We cannot do this and win. If this
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: happens again, we are jeopardizing a very small House majority.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: What I will say to the individuals who did this yesterday,
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: who were fundraising through the whole process, I really hope
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: that every dollar they raise they give to those eighteen
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Republicans sitting in districts that Biden won, because those are
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: the people who they put in jeopardy yesterday. When we're
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: not talking about Biden, we are not winning, and we
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: need to be talking about the failure of the Biden
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: administration every single day and what we're going to do
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: to make the lives of the American people doing here.
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: You Rona, you said it. We'll leave it right there.
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: Thank you so much for joining us. We really do
• 24:52
  Speaker 11: appreciate it. On a momentous day, no doubt. In the
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: aftermath of mccafee being booted out to Speaker.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: She says it, and I agree with her, we cannot
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: win doing this. If this happens again, we are jeopardizing
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a very small House majority, and the American people will
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: not vote for this next year. She is right on that.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So did we get rid of somebody we want to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: get rid of? Yeah. Senator John Kennedy, he was asked
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: about this and the House side, and he gave some
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: excellent advice. Senator John Kennedy is a man that I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: have a ton of respect for, a man that I've
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: got to spend some time with recently, and he's really
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: smart and understands this country and the average American. He
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: was asked about the House side of things. He's a senator.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Here's what he said his advice, and it's spot on.
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: I don't have a lot of advice for my House
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: colleagues other than this, follow your heart, but take your
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: brain with you. The American people expect us to govern,
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: and in order to govern, you have to have a leadership,
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: and you've got to stick with that leadership to give
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: that leadership a chance. I'd also advise all of my
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: House colleagues to be sure and take their mins.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: This is a hardcore conservative that's saying that, and a
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: hardcore conservative that's saying get it together. In the nicest way,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: we possibly can't get it together. Brian kill Meat over
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: at Fox had a sparring match with Representative Burchett, one
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: of those eight. I want you to hear part of
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: their conversation.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: Dam I read your quote.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: You said you're going to pray about it. I want
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: to talk to you about it, and somehow he construes
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: that I'm a Christian. I'm not going to offend somebody
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: from I simply read his quote back. I thought there
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: was still an opening, and I wanted to talk to
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: him about it. He never mentioned anything when we are
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: communicating like that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 12: So you said, you said, part of the reason he
• 27:11
  Speaker 12: voted like that is because you felt he was mocking
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: you correct, so with person.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's and that's not accurate, and that's any
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: of that. I asked him about the six weeks off.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I asked him about, wow, we didn't have a term
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: limits bill up and continued on down the line, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: it was always not his fault. You know, leadership has responsibilities.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: The butt stopped somewhere, and in the House of Representatives,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: it stop stops and starts at the Speaker's office. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: clearly that's not happening, and clearly you know you don't
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: want to continue to make excuses for him. But the
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: truth is his his approval writing around the country was
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: not very high. And I do not I don't represent
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: the people of Congress. I represent the people in time.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 12: What do you think is going to do for the
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: Republican Party and chances of holding on to leadership and
• 27:52
  Speaker 12: the majority when it looks like you having You're the
• 27:55
  Speaker 12: ring leader of a circus led by Matt Gates who
• 27:58
  Speaker 12: likes to blow things up but not offer any new ideas.
• 28:01
  Speaker 12: Are you happy following Matt Gates? Is that your leader?
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I'm not following Matt Gates. I made my own decision.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: I didn't ask.
• 28:08
  Speaker 12: But if Mat Gates didn't challenge, you weren't going to challenge?
• 28:12
  Speaker 12: Do what if Matt Gates didn't stand up? You were
• 28:14
  Speaker 12: going to challenge?
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: You know what I believe, I believe I would have
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: And they're, well, please, are you're praying.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: About it one minute?
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: The next minute you're going to lead an insurgency.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: So you don't think that praying about it's important? Is
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: that what you're saying?
• 28:28
  Speaker 12: You going to vote with Matt Gates and the next
• 28:30
  Speaker 12: minute you're going to lead an insurgency.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Listen, you got to predetermined answer to everything.
• 28:36
  Speaker 12: No I have I have an opinion about what's going on?
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: Do you have an opinion too?
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: And you talk over me every time I try to
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: make it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Make your point?
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: The point is is that we're thirty three trillion dollars
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: in debt. This speaker was woefully, woefully lacking in leadership skills.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: He always plays to blame somewhere else. America is going
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: to be better off with new leadership. Who is it
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: that probably be Possibly it could be Steve Scalise, It
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: could be Alisa Deefan, It could be Roger Williams out
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: of Texas. It could be Mark Green out of Tennessee.
• 29:08
  Speaker 12: So they supported the old supported Kevin McCarthy, including the
• 29:11
  Speaker 12: most conservative guy I know, Jim Jordan. Why are you
• 29:14
  Speaker 12: smarter than Jim Jordan? And the two hundred and ten
• 29:19
  Speaker 12: plus Republicans? Why are you smarter?
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I represent my district, brother, and why are you smarter
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: than me? You're condemning me because I'm just saying to
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: stand up on my own and that's I'm not condemning you.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I'm questioning you.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: You don't like being question now, You're just the line
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: of questioning is very negative. And you know that, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: I know that you. And when this is all over with,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: when this is all over with and we have a
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: new speaker and we're running smooth, let's have this conversation again.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Were you happy with John Bainner.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I wasn't here with John bamer with Paul Ryan. They're
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: both rhinos. I mean, why do you they're not. They're
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: not in my camp anyway, So but I wasn't here
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: when they were here.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: So you at.
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: Fifteen yes for every round you voted with Ken McCarthy.
• 30:03
  Speaker 12: But you think he's the.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Problem right now, I sure do. It's part of it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: He's part of this, this whole problem. When you don't
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: when you deny that there's a problem, when in this
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: dysfunctional Washington brother that you know there's a problem, you
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: can't problem. You can't take get past the fact we
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: take in five trillion, we spend seven trillion, and this
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: and and leadership.
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: I'm thanks, I say the way you blame Kevin McCarthy
• 30:29
  Speaker 12: that you're that you're thirty three.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Trillion dollars in debt. But you're going to get a
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: new leader.
• 30:33
  Speaker 12: I'm sure he's going to solve everything.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm surprised that you get him full credit for
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: all the successes because we nine months.
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: I don't think you should take all the blame.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Well, why why are we backing it up? We had
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: nine months exactly. That's a great point. Why don't we
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: wait nine months to do something about the wall? Something
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: about the budget, something about well we never did anything
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: about termline.
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: I switch.
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: I watched him for fifteen minutes.
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: He was doing he was doing an awful up and
• 30:58
  Speaker 12: not enough for you.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: This, by the way, is what we're dealing with now
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: in this country. Makes you share this podcast with your
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: family and friends, and I'll see you back here tomorrow