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Lisa Cortes Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: My next guest is on the phone. She is a
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  Speaker 1: producer with a strong music background and director, known for
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  Speaker 1: the remix Hip Hop Times Fashion, which is this year
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  Speaker 1: her newest project. Also has worked on Precious was the
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  Speaker 1: two thousand nine project and The Woods Wind, which is
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  Speaker 1: a two thousand fourth project. The next project that she's
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  Speaker 1: on the phone to talk about is The Apollo. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the famous Apollo in Harlem. The Apollo weaves
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  Speaker 1: together archival footage of music, comedy and dance performances, were
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  Speaker 1: behind the scene footage of the team that makes the
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  Speaker 1: theater ron. The film features interviews with such artists as
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  Speaker 1: Angela Bassett, Common, Jamie Fox, Doug e Fress, Patty LaBelle,
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  Speaker 1: Paul McCartney, Smokey Robinson and for Real. Apollo Debates Winsday
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  Speaker 1: November six, So you have to watch it the documentary
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  Speaker 1: on HBO. Gotta watch on HBO Debates Winsday November six
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  Speaker 1: is also available on HBO Now, HBO Go and HBO
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  Speaker 1: on Demand. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. The first
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  Speaker 1: time we've spoken, and I'm happy there will be a
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  Speaker 1: many many conversations in the future. Please welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 1: Lisa Cortez, Thank you very much. I am good too,
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  Speaker 1: good as we say in Harlem. You know, the thing
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  Speaker 1: about Lisa was this first time we talked. M I
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  Speaker 1: always like to everybody kind of get a sense of
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  Speaker 1: who I am interviewing. Uh, I get credits, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: the credits are narrowed down to the project that I'm
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  Speaker 1: speaking of. He gives a little bit more about your
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  Speaker 1: background before you really got into the film and television
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  Speaker 1: side of your career. Uh. Yeah. I was very lucky
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  Speaker 1: to uh start my professional career working at def Jam
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  Speaker 1: and Rush in the olden age of hip hop, and
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  Speaker 1: from there I went on to Mercury Records with at
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  Speaker 1: x Stein and then ultimately had my own labeled PolyGram
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  Speaker 1: called Loose Cannon Records. UM. After a certain time, I
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  Speaker 1: think as I saw the changes that was happening in
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  Speaker 1: the music business in the late nineties, a long time ago,
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  Speaker 1: I decided I wanted to start making films because I
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  Speaker 1: saw that the power of cinema could travel all over
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  Speaker 1: the world and then a picture was truly worth a
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  Speaker 1: thousand words. And after going back to film school and
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, starting from the ground up again,
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  Speaker 1: I ended up working with Lee Daniels and was his
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  Speaker 1: producing partner for ten years. Wow. And so let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you this now, the Apollo now my background. Just
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  Speaker 1: let everybody know, I'm a former stand up comic um
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  Speaker 1: at a comedy club in Houston, Texas call the Hip
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  Speaker 1: Hop Comedy Stop. I used to finnel talent to the
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  Speaker 1: Amateur United. One of the famous features of the Apollo
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  Speaker 1: is Amateur Unite, and they would take the show and
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  Speaker 1: they'd be a part of the show. They would come
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  Speaker 1: down the screen talent. So I just say that least
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  Speaker 1: is that I'm excited to interview you because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm a part of the history that you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about on this show because it expands eighty five years.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot to talk about in a documentary. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And but to thing about what our director, Roger Ross
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  Speaker 1: Williams has done is he's made those eighty five years
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  Speaker 1: not only go by so quickly, but to evoke memories
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  Speaker 1: that we all have. Everybody's got a connection to the Apollo.
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  Speaker 1: If you've been there, if you've watched showtime, if you
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  Speaker 1: have listened to great artists who were given their start there.
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  Speaker 1: And so the history goes by so quickly but we
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  Speaker 1: also talk about temporary stories of what is happening at
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  Speaker 1: the Apollo. So this documentary is not a museum piece.
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  Speaker 1: It is very much alive. When you say that, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about let's share a little bit more detail
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  Speaker 1: about the directions, vision and telling this story, because you're
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  Speaker 1: saying that, see what I because I would have an approach.
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  Speaker 1: I would do Apollo about all the all the great
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  Speaker 1: hosts that were there with show Time at Devolver Whoopi
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  Speaker 1: Goldberg was host, Rickevellis when I was moved to New
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  Speaker 1: York and eight. Rickevilis was the host at the time
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  Speaker 1: for show Time at the Apollo that Martin Lauren Sindbad
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  Speaker 1: and then when sim Bad left and Steve Harvey took
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  Speaker 1: over and Monique took over, Kid read at the Anderson
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  Speaker 1: to the whole constant was my girl, Kiki Shepherd. She
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  Speaker 1: was always out there. She was the original I like
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  Speaker 1: to call it Vanna White. Before Vanna White was always
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  Speaker 1: Kiki Shepherd. That's a part of the story, But you're
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  Speaker 1: not delving so much in that part of the story.
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  Speaker 1: You're telling how the process worked at the Apollo and
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  Speaker 1: the interviewing people involved. Well, we tell the history of
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  Speaker 1: the Apollo as a very important place for the souls
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  Speaker 1: of black folks. It was a place that you know,
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  Speaker 1: at the top of the circuit, that welcomed us as
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  Speaker 1: performers when other venues did not. It was the place, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, where dreams are born. And so the dot
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  Speaker 1: mentory is about great moments like Billy Holiday performing Strange
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  Speaker 1: Fruit there. It is a story. It's the stories of
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  Speaker 1: Patti LaBelle talking about what it was to be a
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  Speaker 1: black woman on the road in the segregated America and
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  Speaker 1: what it meant to arrive at the Apollo and what
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  Speaker 1: she and the Blue Bells learned there. So it is
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  Speaker 1: great moments in the polo history. But it's also the
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  Speaker 1: it's political. It is the intersection of how we as
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  Speaker 1: black folks use our art to take to lift ourselves
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  Speaker 1: out of oppression. But also our art is coded with
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  Speaker 1: information on zillions and survival and so the documentary is
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's clips of performers. It is you know,
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  Speaker 1: when we talk about Amateur Night, we interviewed Miss Eva
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  Speaker 1: and I think you remember Miss Eva was a lady
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  Speaker 1: who said in the front row, how on everybody come on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and we talked to um, you know, Billy Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: the resident historian, and Joe Gray, you know, the head
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  Speaker 1: of stage who's also the set it off man. We
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're looking at the people who work at
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  Speaker 1: the Apollo because they're as important to the story as
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  Speaker 1: the artists who have graced the stage. In addition to
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  Speaker 1: political politicians like you know, uh, Charles Wrangel who you
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  Speaker 1: know went there as a young man, so uh and
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  Speaker 1: Paul McCartney who said, you know, coming to America, that's
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  Speaker 1: the first place the Beatles wanted to go, right. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the Apollo is the crossroads. We know. It's really interesting
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  Speaker 1: when I because you know, I've walked in Apolo. You know,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, is bigger than life, because if you
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  Speaker 1: walk into you go, okay, that's how big it really is.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that. But the process of getting
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  Speaker 1: on that stage it's really interesting. You you have the
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  Speaker 1: you have the audience. But when you walk on that
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  Speaker 1: stage and you look at the audience, it's almost overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: because there's so much history that comes. I was seeing
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  Speaker 1: Prince on stage there. You know this thing you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh, James Brown recorded a live album at
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  Speaker 1: the Apollo that became one of his biggest sellers. And
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  Speaker 1: now the one of the parts of the Apollo that
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  Speaker 1: stood out the most was Amateur Night. And I've reason
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  Speaker 1: to say that is that how important was amateur Night
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  Speaker 1: to the history of the Apollo venue. Amateur Night is
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  Speaker 1: so important in ur the theater open Ella Fitzgerald is
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  Speaker 1: an amateur night that just goes to show you the
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  Speaker 1: soap of and depths of the talent that was given
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity there. Amateur Night is also interesting because the
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  Speaker 1: first time, you know, Lauren Hell performed as a young girl,
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  Speaker 1: she was booed off the stage. What is unique about
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  Speaker 1: the Apollo is that the audience is in on it.
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  Speaker 1: The audience and the performer have a unique conversation because
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  Speaker 1: the Apollo is church and so there's very few places
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  Speaker 1: that you entertainment venues that you're going to have the
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  Speaker 1: kind of call and response between the performer and the
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  Speaker 1: audience in the way that you do at the Apollo. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's really important that you say that. Let
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  Speaker 1: me read something about the Apollo has served as a
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  Speaker 1: launch path for such legendary talents like you mentioned Billie Holiday,
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  Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin that you just mentioned Ellaphus Gerald, the Supreme,
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  Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder, Jimmie Hendrix, Smokey Robinson, Ray Charles, Patty Lebert
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  Speaker 1: who's been interviewed in the documentary showcase, comedians such as
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  Speaker 1: Red Fox, Dick, Gregory, Dick Gregory, Richard Pryor, the great
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  Speaker 1: incredible Mars Maylie. I hope somebody does a movie on
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  Speaker 1: her one day Moms mainly incredible actor Jamie Fox, and
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  Speaker 1: you interviewed Jamie Fox in the documentary talked to us
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  Speaker 1: about that. We also have clips from Moms mainly and
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  Speaker 1: did Gregory and Richard Pryor and Chris rock Um. You
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  Speaker 1: know that speak to the unique connection that comedians had
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  Speaker 1: with the theater, but also what it is how we
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  Speaker 1: use comedy um in a very unique way right now.
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  Speaker 1: The interesting thing about it, are you able to talk
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  Speaker 1: about the origin of the buoy? Yes, we we talked
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  Speaker 1: about because they're not that right there, Miss Evil. It was,
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  Speaker 1: it was awesome, But the booing is what the what?
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  Speaker 1: What was separated uh the talent from the wanna be talent?
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  Speaker 1: That what That's what you walked on stage with this
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  Speaker 1: with this fear that you can be rejected massively by
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  Speaker 1: room full of people which can crush some people are
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  Speaker 1: just make them determined to come back and show these
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  Speaker 1: people that I'm better than what you think that I
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  Speaker 1: just talk to talk to us about the origin of
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  Speaker 1: the boot. Well, you know, I mean, we um the
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  Speaker 1: power of the booth. That is, we spent some time
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  Speaker 1: with I want to talk too much because I want
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  Speaker 1: people to see this absolutely, absolutely, absolutely absolute, but we
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  Speaker 1: definitely get into the power of the boot and the
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  Speaker 1: place that it has played with artists. Even Jamie Fox
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  Speaker 1: talks about, you know, his experience there. I remember his experience.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually there on the side of the stage,
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  Speaker 1: so I I know about that. I know about a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these famous people as a comedian. See the
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  Speaker 1: thing about it is that Apollo UM. As a I
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  Speaker 1: never I wasn't bold enough to get out there. I'm
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  Speaker 1: admitted everybody. I didn't. I didn't I had the opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to go in front of this day. It was something
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  Speaker 1: about New York, the fact I remember one time Um,
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  Speaker 1: because I was like, I moved in New York in
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  Speaker 1: and I used to go through Apollo and watch and
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  Speaker 1: you know, amateur night, and I remember you catched the
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  Speaker 1: subway downtown because Apolos on a hundred s and so,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember it was it was this guy he
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  Speaker 1: got booed on stage. He had a red suit on
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  Speaker 1: and he was sitting on he was sitting on the
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  Speaker 1: on the subway and it's like a group of like
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  Speaker 1: five people walked up to him. They said, excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: all you two dude who were just performing at the Apollo.
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  Speaker 1: He said yes, and they went boo. Interesting, Lisa, they
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  Speaker 1: booed him from A hundred and five the forty second. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they booed that young man. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: he ever want that red suit again, but I was
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  Speaker 1: just letting you know the power of the boot left
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  Speaker 1: the building with them. Okay, we're gonna wrap up this
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  Speaker 1: segment right quick, Lisa. We will wrap up this second
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  Speaker 1: right quick, and want to continue with some great interviews.
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  Speaker 1: Is an amazing interview about that as the documentary about
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  Speaker 1: to Apollo this uh uh that's premiering November six on
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  Speaker 1: HBO uh HBO streaming Networks. Quartet Production is the people
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  Speaker 1: who producing this project, The Apollo documentary about an amazing
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  Speaker 1: venue that has changed lives even today. Hi, this is
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  Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald and you're listening to money making conversations. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the documentary, Uh, The Apollo. Uh. We're on
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  Speaker 1: the phone with the producer, Lisa Cortez Lusa. How are
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  Speaker 1: you doing. I'm great. How are you I'm doing fine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited because you're talking about a piece of history,
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  Speaker 1: entertainment history, the Apollo. I've been fortunate too. I lived
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  Speaker 1: in New York and eight in ninety as a stand
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  Speaker 1: up comic. I was pursuing a career as a stand
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  Speaker 1: up comic when I was living in New York, so
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  Speaker 1: it has to go over there and watch Amateur Night.
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  Speaker 1: And then I moved back to New York and two
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  Speaker 1: thousand five as a seven when I was managining Steve
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  Speaker 1: Harvey and we were we launched our radio broadcast network
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  Speaker 1: on WBLS one on seven point five in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: So I've seen the transition in the in the process
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  Speaker 1: because when I was managing Steve, he actually managed was
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  Speaker 1: seven years. I believe he was the host of the
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  Speaker 1: TV version of Showtime at the Apollo. So I was
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  Speaker 1: always at that facility. And a lot of the names
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  Speaker 1: that you're talking about are people that I'm familiar with,
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  Speaker 1: but I asked you now the question I've asked, why
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  Speaker 1: this story? Now you know why. Well, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was amazing for us to discover that there had been
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  Speaker 1: a documentary about the Apollo. So many greats from dance, vocalists,
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  Speaker 1: comedian has, you know, like everybody, politicians have been there
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  Speaker 1: and it's a mecca, and it was kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: this is a story that is so rich and it
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  Speaker 1: is continuing to grow and evolve as the theater becomes
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  Speaker 1: a place where new productions are being created. So one
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  Speaker 1: of the things we do in the film is we
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  Speaker 1: map the production and presentation of a special stage reading
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  Speaker 1: of Tana Hatzi Coats is between the World and Me
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  Speaker 1: that the Apollo created. You know, Tana Hassi is our
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  Speaker 1: James Baldwin and this piece with music by Jason Moran
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  Speaker 1: is serious and Apollo created this. So you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: that place where are African American creativity. Our conversations are
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  Speaker 1: held in such reverence. Now it's really interesting because you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were upbeat and to my understand the documentary and
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  Speaker 1: we're not trying to tell the story of the document
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  Speaker 1: We want people to watch the show. When Your premiers
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  Speaker 1: November six on HBO, it's important to people understand it.
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  Speaker 1: But you want to talk about the good times and
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  Speaker 1: the bad times at the Apollo, correct, Yes, we do.
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  Speaker 1: We take people through the opening, the challenges that's the
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  Speaker 1: theater uh faced, and then the incredible solution that the
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  Speaker 1: theater has found that has placed it in this really thriving,
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  Speaker 1: prosperous place. The film is also about African American history,
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  Speaker 1: because you cannot separate the two. You know, our entertainment
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  Speaker 1: does not come from a bubble. Our entertainment that we
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  Speaker 1: create comes from both our joy and our pain, and
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  Speaker 1: we use it as a means of expressing ourselves now.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure you know Apollo is anonymous with music,
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  Speaker 1: Uh in a creative collaborative collaborators on the music. Let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about you come into the project, Lisa, because to understand,
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  Speaker 1: white Horse Production is to is the company that is
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  Speaker 1: producing my House pictures, excuse me, is producing the project.
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  Speaker 1: How was How did you get involved in the project, Lisa? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: You know I ran into the director, Roger Ross Williams.
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  Speaker 1: We've always wanted to work together, and he said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at least I've come on this new project. Uh. And
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  Speaker 1: what are you up to? You live in Harlem, background
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  Speaker 1: music industry. You know, let's let's come to you know,
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  Speaker 1: can you join the team. And I was like, can
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  Speaker 1: I start right now? It was such a delight because
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  Speaker 1: I've been going to the theater since i was a child.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's really important when you when you start
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  Speaker 1: telling the story, you're interviewing the right people, getting the
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  Speaker 1: right people on camera who have have an emotional connection
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  Speaker 1: to the people. I know, we talked about Jamie Fox,
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned Paul McCartney, who are are something that other
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  Speaker 1: people that were interviewed for are describing special moments at
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  Speaker 1: the Apollo for the documentary. Oh wow, um, Dougie Fresh
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  Speaker 1: and Dougie is amazing, you know, and it connects us
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  Speaker 1: to that whole time with the role that the theater
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  Speaker 1: played in presenting hip hop when a lot of other
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  Speaker 1: venues were not doing that. Angela Bassett Um we spoke
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  Speaker 1: with Miss Bassett of course, Smokey Robinson, Patti LaBelle Farrell,
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  Speaker 1: williams Uh, the incredible Camilla Fours, the executive producer now
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  Speaker 1: at the theater. So you got Leslie Uggins is here,
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  Speaker 1: Oh Leslie. We talk about the history of dance there,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, we just everyone uh just gave was
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  Speaker 1: so generous with their time and with their memories. And
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  Speaker 1: and Miss Patty Labell, you know, she invited us to
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  Speaker 1: her home and just she took care of us. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're here to interview and take care of you. Miss
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  Speaker 1: Patty is like, no, sit down and get comfortable. She's
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  Speaker 1: that person. You know. It's really interesting when you have
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  Speaker 1: all this footage and we kind of hit on it
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  Speaker 1: early on with eighty five years and you said, Roger,
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  Speaker 1: the director had had a vision of it. What was
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  Speaker 1: your you know, like I said, you came on board
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  Speaker 1: of the project, project was moving forward. You came on
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  Speaker 1: to the very instrumental person. How did you you know,
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  Speaker 1: I look at Marvel Marvel and they put all these storyboards.
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  Speaker 1: They said, we're gonna start here, We're gonna start here.
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  Speaker 1: How did you start pulling, pulling all this, putting all
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  Speaker 1: this together? You know, roughly less than two hours the documentary.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on, at least I gotta keep
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  Speaker 1: saying that because it's a lot. There's so many different
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  Speaker 1: ways you could have taken a story and how you
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  Speaker 1: know what what y'all just shooting down idea? Now we're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna do that. How did this out of this
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  Speaker 1: whole process start evolving to being shot? And this is
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  Speaker 1: how we're gonna tell the story beginning, middle, and end.
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  Speaker 1: I really need to clearly understand that I want to
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  Speaker 1: not saying that you're not doing that, but I really
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  Speaker 1: want to let people know this is eighty five years
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  Speaker 1: this is the legendary facility that's still open today creating stars.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this this story is is um It's big,
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  Speaker 1: and there were many stories that we wanted to tell
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  Speaker 1: that time did not allow for. You know, in the
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  Speaker 1: process of producing is really you know, led by the
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  Speaker 1: north star that the director sets. And so once we
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  Speaker 1: have the north star of we're going to create different
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  Speaker 1: timelines in the edit room, and we're gonna look at
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  Speaker 1: major moments in the Apollo history, major moments in African Americans, okay,
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  Speaker 1: American history and musical history. How do they intersect? One
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  Speaker 1: are the moments that stand bright, you know when you
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  Speaker 1: think of what is happening to black folks in the thirties.
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  Speaker 1: When Billie Holiday goes and sings Strange Fruits on the
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  Speaker 1: stage of the Apollo, she's singing a protest song, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and so it becomes more than the song, more than
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  Speaker 1: Billie Holiday. It becomes a very big part of our history.
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  Speaker 1: And so, uh, how does it happen? We have a
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  Speaker 1: great team. I worked with two other producers, Genie Alfon,
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  Speaker 1: Sesta Cassidy Hartman. We had incredible editors, got Jene Chen
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  Speaker 1: and John Fisher, Amazing music supervisors Dondi Bastone, Gilly Rockwell,
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  Speaker 1: and and so many other people. Um, if you look
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: at the credits, our credits go for like seven minutes
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: because there is an amazing theme, you know, an archival
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  Speaker 1: producer to help us find footage and what was most
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  Speaker 1: that person was busy for love Central. This is a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: love song to the Apollo, to the place that it
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  Speaker 1: holds not only for African Americans, but to the world. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: it's such a recognized iconic and it's really just you know,
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  Speaker 1: I like have been moved to New York and eight eight,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: so I've seen that only the community change around the Apollo,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you know, in the gentrification that's set in, and it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the atmosphere is different, how people shop around their Apollo
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  Speaker 1: is just a whole different atmosphere around it, which doesn't
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: diminish what the Apollo is it just shows you, even
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: with change, it stays the Apollo. It stays in an
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: iconic place where you can see talent on amage and
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  Speaker 1: night today. You know, still there going stage, they still
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: boo there. You still see great shows, play eas are
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: being done there. A lot of great touring events are
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: being done there. Major superstars are still recording comedy. Uh.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Not only just African American talent, but also white talent
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: is also performing in booking themselves at the Apollo. Before
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: we get off the air, though, Lisa, you have another
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: project that I want to be remissing not having you
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: talk about is called Hip Hop Times Fashion. Tell us
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: about that. Let let's talk about there for a couple
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: of minutes. Well, it's called the remix hip Hop Times Fashion,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and it's the story of the women behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: in hip hop fashion who created not only the looks
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that changed how we express ourselves, but it also are
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the looks that them went to the runway until we
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: talked to people like Missa Hilton, the style architects who
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: created those incredible looks for Missy Elliott and Mary and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Little Kim, April Walker Walker Ware and of course Dapper Dan,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you know who started built was the one with the
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: little famous outfit for a little Kim on that with
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Dinah Ross, right, yeah, with the v H one, right
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: with the oh yeah, oh yes. I just won't let
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: everybody know how iconic that moment was. I actually interviewed
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: on money Making Conversations on Bear for me to laugh
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  Speaker 1: about it a lot. So so she was, and she
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  Speaker 1: also has a fashion schooled up in New York as well.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: It's really popular as well. So yeah. So that's a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: project I produced and co directed with Fara Khalite, Fara
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: X and Uh. It will be coming to a streaming service.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I will be able to announce shortly um next year.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It's going to be out in the world. We've had
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a great run at festivals. We've won many awards as
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the best documentary. And I love it because I was
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: a woman in hip hop and I've seen so many
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: hip hop documentaries that really leave out the story of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the contributions of women behind the scenes. And you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: we've been there from the beginning when Cool her through
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that party and he dj as for the very first time,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: his sister through the party. His sister sold the tickets.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So I think it's important in looking at our hip
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: hop history, that we make certain that a place is
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: set at the table for the contributions of women. My friend.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: First of all, you know you have love on this show.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you for producing. The Apollo Again airs on November
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: six on HBO and all its streaming channels, HBO to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: own Demand as well. Lisa, when your next project comes out,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the Remix, please come back. I know it's next year,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: but keep us on your calendar. I want to continue
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to promote the brand of Lisa Cortez, an exciting talent.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: You're very creative with your music background and now you're
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in the film. You can only keep winning again. Thank
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you for coming on money they can come say thank you,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Lisa Cortez. Thank you