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Zander Krause DEFENDS Nick Sirianni from Eagles Fans Who HATE HIM! Best in Eagles History? · The National Football Show with Dan Sileo

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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're working on that and Romanowski outside promise.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's guys are doing all kinds of like appearances right now media day wasn't saying all right, so without further ado Great conversation today.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I want to start it out with this Robert craft news without further ado, we bring our guy in big cities and the craft see joins us now Sales what's up a man.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He doing
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what you're making, what you're making, in fact, a national football league now, that can have the greatest owner in the Super Bowl era and that can have the greatest coach in the Super Bowl era and the Pro Football all of thing.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll tell you what, if they wanna be consistent, now they're gonna have to keep Brady out of the first bit.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And then they're gonna make themselves, it'll be a triple threat of showing how much of an asshole there, or a royal flush, or whatever you wanna call it.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: For them being idiots, but yeah, I mean, you know, it's odd to me, you know, but I guess they really do I guess they really do care a lot more about the, you know, the deflate gay, you know, that crap Yeah, more than most the average fans do, but don't you feel like because they kept those two out I mean, you almost got a knock for it.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: If you knock those two for it Assuming that's why they didn't get first ballot
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel now that the Hall of Fame has to go and and strip these dudes of all their votes if they're gonna try to change the history of the game.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're there to be caretakers of the game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Not to give me your personal bullshit mentality how you feel about the game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't give a shit your feelings about the game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I care you're supposed to be in there telling us what these men met to the game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't give a shit about you how you feel about it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Your opinions mean nothing to me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But this is the slippery slope you go down.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When you put the ballot in the hands of people that think they have entitlement on thinking that they're opinion matters.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like Tanner, somebody talking politics.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: People don't give a shit about what people's politics are.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you can throw those movie stars, they think they're points matter when they get up in front of like a microphone when they're at the Grammys or they're at the Oscars.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody gives a shit what you think I and I don't give a shit with these Hall of Fame voters thing vote the people in.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you add.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Take the votes away.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I agree the problem is that they hold the cards, you know, which is like there's nothing you can really All the fame holds the cards actually.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's true.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's true But you got 50 dudes who are protected now their votes are never revealed
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  [SPEAKER_03]: they can all go on the podcast tour and stay and say that they didn't vote for or they didn't make the bad vote.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And like somebody somebody put out, I think it was Pat McAfee at the time.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's like, I've interviewed a lot of whole of famous every single one says they didn't vote.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: The math is not math and right now.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So who knows, man, who knows?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It does suck, but it is where this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to play a game with you here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I heard people talking in Philly on the radio about
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to see what you think in three years from now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think these respected players are going to be part of the future of your football team?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And remember what how he says when he talks about building and in free agency, how he said this, out three years out in front of everything right now?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How I see this football team, if you're thinking about it now, we've already been down this lane and I'm late.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The things you do right now,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: right now are going to dictate what's going to happen March 12th and then April 23rd when you guys get into the draft.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought of an exercise and I want to get your takes on it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I want to go here.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Murrow, Joe, I'm going to find out how many I said you have six on defense and two on offense.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: court group of guys.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see where you're talking three years down the line.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking in three years where these dudes be on your football team.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's good exercise actually.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's good exercise.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Moral Jellmo.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Davis.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Davis.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me put defense here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Carter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Phillips.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: porn.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, Dean.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, Smith.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, adore Jackson.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, read blanket ship.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: How old
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Twenty-six, three years, remember, if Vick's not here, he'll be 27 in a month.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go now on Reed, although I think he could be.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Job Campbell.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Cooper.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 guys.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Who do you have that I didn't jail it's on?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Did I say no, I didn't do it.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I didn't bring him up hunt.
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he's a guest.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So six.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now let's go offense.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: offense is going to be bleak, I can tell.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Dick jail on earth, is part of your future in three years?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is the year that's
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  [SPEAKER_03]: this question in three years and I look at.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I just did a quick search.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: The average franchise quarterback tenure in Philadelphia is 6.8 years.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Don of in 11, Randall 9, Joerski 10, Norm Sneed 7.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I am way back sonny jerks and four, Norm Van Brock on three, Bobby Thomas and six, Tommy Thompson 8, Carson Wentz 5, Jalen Hertz 5.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So three years would put him in the likes in the realm of George G. Cunningham Ignab.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: If he has a good year, it's a gas guarantee.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: If he doesn't have a good year, it's a no.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So this is that I think the crux here for hurts.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he's going to be here in three years?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's going to have a better year this year.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think the owner really likes him.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think the owner has a longer leash on jail and hurts than a lot of fans though.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to say her it's part of the core.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say her it's right now it will be here in three years.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Parkley.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Parkway now two old running back AJ.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: AJ now two old in my receiver.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: The Vante.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Devante.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Devante will be a savvy veteran by then.
• 7:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's him now got it got it now Malata Malata I think should be as assuming there's no crazy injury or something like that.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He should be I looked up landed Dickerson said 13 surgeries.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm with you on landed.
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to convince me there Camp jerkins no I think they're regretting the contract
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think in in other two years or you're maybe even this year, he'll be out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Tyler steam.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Lane Johnson.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You got three court guys on offense.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And the quarterback is a question mark and 20.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Would you leave that you left off hurts?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Cause I know who he is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you got, but it, that, I see your, I see your formula for it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So out of the 22 starters, one, two, three, four, five, six on defense for you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you got three on offense.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to show you we're going to go next here for a free agency here now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to add this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I had two.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I had Milan and Smith.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So now let's put this priority.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so for free agency coming up, you're gonna say, according to what you just did.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right now, the question mark is, AJ, Goddard, Lane, Retirement, Philips.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What else did I put down over here?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In a dory, and I'll show you something here about a dory and what I mean by that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Lane Johnson, Dallas, Goddard, Janet Phillips, and Adori Jackson, you may have to replace every single one of those dudes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This coming free agency and in the draft.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't believe you're losing all these guys.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe you, I don't believe you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do believe that, get this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe Goddard's gone.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's iffy on Lane, I believe Phillips is gone.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe Adori's gone.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So really, the two guys that it's 50, 50 on right now
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think if you lose either one of those guys that's going to predicate who you take number one in your draft is fair fair fair point
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, maybe, I think, well, I think this is, I really do think this is an inflection point of the team.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they can open the window back up with smart moves and better play, or I think you can close a shot if they don't capitalize.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if things fall flat this year, just it's an if, but I'm not saying they will.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: If they fell flat, let's play it out.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And they won eight games, seven games, nine games, whatever.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And got bounced.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: You'd probably be talking about new head coach, new defensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator, at that point a new coach who's not tied to the quarterback.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's that those are very different things.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, when you have a new coach who comes in with a quarterback as opposed to a coach and a quarterback came up together.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So potentially quarterback would be on the hot seed even more going into 27.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you'd be.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: you might as well reset the slot.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a new team.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great take.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If they if they fumble the ball to 26, you're going to need a new OC, you're going to need a new DC, you're going to need a new all line coach and you're probably going to need a new head coach.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what's on the line in 26.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: You see what I'm saying about how this is the biggest offseason.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: and Philadelphia Eagles, Nick Syriani history.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: If this thing does mean look at the massive chain and like you said 27 might be the quarterback's final season.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you might be in a complete 2020 rebuild.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but if he if they have a good year, I guarantee your hearth is another fat deal waiting for me at the end of next year.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: The problem you make in my highest pay guy.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: 100%.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Not even a question.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Not even not about opinion that's guaranteed.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, here's what I think is the beautiful part about this off season for the Eagles and the next season is that I think you've isolated where you think the weakness lies because they're very strong team that's obvious with how much they've won.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They're very strong team with how much outcome they've had in terms of big game winning playoff wins.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They're also a boomer vusting in that when they're not playing their best and dominating going deep into the playoffs in the Xuriani's era, it feels like there's a bottom that just never stops.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: The bottom falls out from under room and it's like those movies are falling down and there's no stopping.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's what it feels like with this team, which would mean there's a fatal flaw somewhere.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not always activated, but there's a fatal flaw somewhere in the organization.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: because nixeryony, I mean, this is the season of nixeryony, I don't know if everybody realizes that, but there's a lot of people in the chat who aren't serianny people.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're about to find out.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got serianny, you got a young rookie play caller, you got a first year play caller, it's 35 years old, it's your passing in coordinator.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Nick is the guy on offense, like he is the guy.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no kelon more.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no even Kevin Poutulo that you can easily scapegoat off a Super Bowl year.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is Nick, you know, they have success.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Nick is going to be able to ride that, I think, another couple years as well.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: If they fall flat, I think you're going to see the coach, he might not even make the year depending on how bad it looks.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he will make the year, but if it doesn't look good, I could see him blowing him out.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: How much of this is going to be also how he roseman pressure?
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, I'm going to, here, let me explain.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't think, listen, in here, what I mean by pressures, I'm not talking about firing.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about what you think about him and what you think about him as a general manager.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this guy here has built these rosters up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He has helped in the hiring process of these coordinators.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's, he has no free different.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's built three different, really, or two different.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, regimes, I'll to speak with different coaches, I mean, dude, you know, his reputations on the line, the tad bit here.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a little bit.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is a little bit because it's a lot of turnover on the room, but where I think you'll get pushback is like, if you said that to how what you just said, I think he's going to be like, I'm sorry, you got it wrong.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I, and maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe you're right, because I'm more lean toward you where he does have a say, but I think there's the coach.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: The coaching staff, the owner, the general manager.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, the general manager sits a peg higher than the coaching staff.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think if you have a problem with the hiring of coordinators, it's going to fall on Nick, and if you have a problem with the hiring of any coaches, it's going to fall on the owner.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you were problem with personnel, that's gonna come down to Halley.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think anybody has that problem right now.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So if Halley assembles the rosters and the players don't play good enough or the coaches don't get enough out of the rosters, I don't think people hold in that.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think people are gonna end up holding that on Halley.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you think it looks like this?
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're not showing it, you have to.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: You think it looks like this?
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, with the GM a little higher than the coach.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you don't think that the coach works for Halley.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't, I don't.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think how he is, well, a lot more trusted in the organization by the owner.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he has the ear of the owner, which does make a difference.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a favorite child, you know what I mean?
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a little bit of a different dynamic.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's built more equity.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't, yeah, and I don't think Nick Seriani reports to how he goes and I really don't.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so when he's gonna make a move on the coaching staff,
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: who does he go to the owner or does he go to how he now.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good job.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: The John McMullan's great column of a year ago.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: The politics of Nick Seriani maybe Nick includes him in his decision making.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: How he, this is what I'm thinking and then they go together and do it.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's what really makes him a viable part is because he works with how he,
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Besides, I'm how we put, but yeah, they do a good job at working together.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yes, but, you know, I don't want to understate it though.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think how we got nothing to do with it.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying what I think the perception would be, like if Nick gets fired, I don't view it as a how we problem that coach it.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't think a person else can problem.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And when you look at the last two collapses, 23 and last year, which wasn't a collapse, but felt like a collapse.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that was how we
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, again, I don't think how we made every great move last year, but I thought he did what he needed to do with the resources that they wanted to use to keep the team good enough to compete.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought the team didn't ultimately compete enough.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: That falls on players and coaches, whoever you want to put over in that side of the aisle.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I never viewed it as what a personnel failure.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, if they didn't trade for jail or films and their defense maybe,
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But, and I'm not all the mousers splashy.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was a lot of, you know, bandates on there, but for the most part, the bandates held up.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, a Dory Jackson turned out to be okay.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: There were 14 mousers and I said, two of them paned out.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which is probably about right.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's type of mousy shit.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: But he kept swinging.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was not going to listen, he kept.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, don't go to taking a bunch of 7th round picks, right?
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Took 14, for six.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Took 14, 7th rounders and two of them hit.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, all right, I'll take it.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the only one that wasn't, it was a commodity pick was the third round of you gave up your own third round or when you got jailed.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the first ones.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the only one that was really where you had to spend any kind of equity, right?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Head by the way, it paned out.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like that, you know, that called the North Shore.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I equate the stocks, you buy a penny stock, you know, better chance you're not going to hit.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: You buy Amazon, you buy Apple, you buy Google, you buy, you know, you buy the Nvidia,
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason why some are not over the counter.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right, penny stocks, man.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Holy cow, that's right.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so here, let me go here.
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sean Man and Vickison Pack this year on the Eagle Offits will be what?
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good question.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm hoping a little bit more versatility.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm hoping a little bit more of a pushback on the narrative that there's no need to evolve when you've been a successful.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: more than halfway through the year this year when the Eagles had a pretty game good record.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the offense had looked brutal and it was being, you know, the talk on it was getting louder and louder each week.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Next to the reality showed a graphic to the team about their record in their turnover differentials.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a great, I don't blame them for showing the graphic at all.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great, it was a book, 41 and 2 and they went to turnover something along those lines
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I hope that somebody comes in here and says, you can't operate based on your the 41 wins you've had in the last five years.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: You need to constantly evolve and the risk reverse approach that we had.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: It worked when we ran for 2500 yards.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to work if we have a, even above average running game.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we have to, I'm not saying you need to throw the ball 40 times, but we need to do something.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: We need to add some elements of our offense that get us out of this play, not the lose mentality and push the needle, drive the ball down the football field, try and go and make plays.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Instead of just letting every, you know, let them come to you, go and make a play.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think I hope Sean brings that a little bit.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna ask you something about jail and hurts.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think jail and hurts is selfishness not to run the ball is hurting the offense?
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I do.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's a better quarterback when he runs the ball.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it's selfishness, it's weird because it's been reported at like every different way.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, earlier in the year it was got reported that jail didn't want to run anymore.
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Patul O'Conan denied that, but that's coach speak.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jalen denied that, but Jalen contradictions self every third comment, I don't know.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is it Jalen, is it not?
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's Jalen who knows.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: But let's, well, all you have to do is really get moving.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, buddy, actions.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's changing.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is Agent?
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, then that's his team.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he hires those people for a reason.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you agree with this statement on Hertz?
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hertz runs, they're good, and they win.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hertz doesn't run, they're not going to win elite games.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, they definitely are a better football team than he runs.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's no doubt about it.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're better offense is better.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, well, Sean Manage, biggest impact has to be to have in convinced Jalen to run more, because if Jalen doesn't run more dude,
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's not going to keep better in 26, based on what I keep coming back to this and it appears to be the thing I'm going to keep coming back to the more conversations we have this off season.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: The first thing I wrote and when I say first thing, I mean the Monday morning after the Eagles lost the playoff game to the San Francisco 49ers.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: The number one thing is what version of jail and hurts are you getting next year?
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: To the number one thing I wrote down, and the number two thing I wrote down is, is the risk of verse offense back?
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not a coordinator name, not Sean Manning or Cliff King's Barry, is the risk of verse offense back?
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because if you're risk of verse and jail is not running, I don't care how good Sean Manning is, guys.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not gonna look at much different.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: If those two things are different, you could have a dynamic offense.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: If they don't play so risk-averse, if Jalen uses his weapons more, his assets more, his legs more, I think you're going to be looking at a much different team, but those are two big questions that we got away and say, I want to kind of connect the dots with the
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Donard Wilson is going to run the Vic Fangeo defense in New York, right?
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want to say that?
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You think you will?
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: He ran it in Tennessee.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what he ran in Tennessee.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: He ran it in Tennessee.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Vic Fangeo was on the Matt Nagy staff in Chicago.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was his decordinator along with Chuck McDonald.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know that?
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I heard you say it in the open.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: John Harbos put that staff together to beat Philly.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, get to an Arnold Wilson.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: As your coordinator, you got Mad Naggy, who's worked with Vic.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't think he knows Vic's mentality on how to build... Yeah, that's a big amount of defense.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's very, very true point by you.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, John Harbos is building the football team to compete against the Eagles.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know what they say.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Before you worried about being a good team in the NFL,
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: correct.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, the Eagles have won two straight years.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: He goes to the top dog right now in the NFC East.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's John Horrible, Roll.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, he's right.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's like that.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, entered very interesting point by you.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I even heard all the only thing I even saw some Giants fans bitching about nagging.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they should probably be thinking about it a little differently.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they're not looking at why he was hired.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was hired for a reason because John Harball is connecting the dots here with trying to compete against Phil.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to do because his attitude has to be a fight beat Philly.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to let him win team.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm competing, right?
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to do you think the giants win next year?
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, you know what?
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm starting to go up that ladder a little bit on them because they're going to have a shitty schedule.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said eight.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds eight, nine, somewhere in there.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could see it depending on, on Darts play.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they can help for him, too.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I agree, depends on Darts.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And scatters, scatters, moves back.
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that'll be good for us.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what kind of impact he makes coming off that pretty totally, really mildly injury.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Last year for Vic Fangeo, do we agree, Zander, that this is the last year?
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: If it is, I think so, for sure.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, impact will that be on this football team.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And let me ask you something before you answer.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you think Victor Anjeele looks at it this way at all, or do you think he's just, again, he's just trying to figure out whatever he wants to coach him when you're not, or maybe not at all.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you hire a coordinator that's never had experience on that side of the ball.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just take it for last year and go by last year's example.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: That means my defense is going to be put in bad situations again.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That means I'm going to be asked to carry the football team, the majority of the year, at least I think.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got an aging team, you've got question marks on offense on who's even coming back.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you're a big fangeo, you don't hire a quality coordinator to try to keep the sticks fair.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll come to sticks, put me in bad field position now, depending on what this offensive fits.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: One of the worst offenses again, and third down, Jesus crime, and that means I have to have my side of the football, you're asking me again to go 17 games and do a monumental thing.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that's what he's hired to do, I get it.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: But at 68 years old or 67 years old, and I used to sit here going like this, Jesus Danny really, I mean, the Giants hired Matt Nagy, I'm pretty good with that.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's an experienced play caller that can at least keep the sticks and the Giants on the field to help that defense mature for Donard Wilson.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but Matt, you understand Matt Nagy does still have he doesn't have as much boom, but he also might not have as much.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: boomer like boomer.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's kind of more like you always say.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like a fence guy.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm not saying what what I'm saying a higher like that is a little bit more okay right, you know, ride the fence.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you think it's a safer.
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a safer.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a safer.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a safer.
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like there's also a chance that he just not that bad, but also not that great, you know.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't, I don't mind Nick, who maybe knows his back is against the wall saying, let's fucking take a swing here.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, if it's going to be on me, anyway, right?
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's take the swing.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we went into the grand slam.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause they were like, I'm probably cooked, you know.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And let's say when, and let's say when multiple 12 games that you're, I don't know if I see Nick Siriani coming back.
• 26:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're ready, wait, I gave you the start of a quarterbacks.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ready for this?
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Three coaches in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles, who lasted longer than seven years.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: One of them is greasy meal in the thirties.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, dick for a meal lasted seven.
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: An Andy Reed as the big outlier is 14.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nick has been five.
• 27:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Doug was five.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Chip Kelly was three.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ray Rhodes was four.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now you're going to start pre-dating Jeffrey Loury.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Buddy Ryan was five.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Marrying Campbell was three.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dick for meal was seven.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mike McCormack was three.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ed Kai was two.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jerry Williams's three.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now these are all pre-loury.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So not all of them are relevant.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: But Nick is already in the upper, upper stratosphere of Co.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's fourth in 10 years in length for the Eagles coaches.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know that right now, Vic Fangeo is the longest 10 year coordinator you've had in Missouri, on the era.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he'll be in your three.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Worked animals too, strike them too.
• 28:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's good.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Another good pull.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: in the Cereon and Error.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you think about it, you're around about a year and a half and you have to don't.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think I hope if anybody, I hope all Philadelphia fans, Eagle fans, especially people in the great city of Philadelphia.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I hope they all like stop constant planning of coordinators.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like think about.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look at this five year tenure who are all the names that people look back and shit it.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: with a number two overall defense.
• 28:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Brian Johnson, number eight overall offense.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kevin Petulau, I think is the first one that's really that really is a stiff.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: James Typenhead, Jalen Hurtson, MVP candidate.
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it's funny now.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think about it and I'm like, you know, we rip everybody.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ganon was fine.
• 29:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know people don't like Ganon because the way we are gone to say it.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had the second right defense in football.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jonathan Ganon.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, wait, wait.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: When you fired to Sean to say he was 10 in one.
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: What?
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: What?
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: He sucked him.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were, okay, wait.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're people of Niners.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, they beat, they beat a bunch of playout.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: They beat the box that year.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, they weren't ten and one.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the wheels came off after the first thing I wanted.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not all coordinators.
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how much power we think coordinators have, but who knows me?
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Who knows?
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: They can't all snuck.
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you that much, guys.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: The coordinator, the coach, the quarterback.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I, they can't all suck.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you that much.
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: They went to many games for that.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let me let me let me give you a bellot check because people are asking if you're $4.30.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get your checks.
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You did, right?
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, or tent up.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, far as he's coming in at $4.30.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so this is going to run a super boss.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask you, who's more responsible for the success in Philadelphia, general, the Hertz or an exciting.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's an equal slice.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't give me a politicians answer.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got to honest truth.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe it's next year, honey.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was really, I couldn't say that.
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's just what I think.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know what I mean.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You think it's more Brady and New England.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And not Bella check, but you think it's serious.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He and Philly and that hurts.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, look at this.
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look at, look at the year we won.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, does anybody think we won the door last year?
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or won the Super Last year?
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because of the play of jail nerds?
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't even say that as a shot at Hertz.
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I say, if you don't have jail in Hertz on that offense, I don't think you win eight games.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's fair.
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Those first six games they played?
• 31:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't a freaky play calling.
• 31:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do I mean with?
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you know what you're doing?
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, people are going, well, you know, it was Brady, you know, that's why Bella checks not in the Hall of Fame and it's why crap is kind of frustrating.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going, well, let me play that here to my boy here.
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask him this.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think is more responsible for the Eagle Success in the last five, six years here?
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nick or Herzin, you land on Nick.
• 32:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all right.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you think Jalen's more or more a big part, bigger part?
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, here, Jalen hurts his one, every where he's gone.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's done another place.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's done it, Pam.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did it.
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't, don't include college.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK, I'm just talking about a guy as a pattern of winning.
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't pattern the winning.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it helps when you go to Alabama and the Dynastie era.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm not trying to criticize Jalen,
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: the peak era of the peak coach in the history of college football, Jailum was at his program.
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's good, it's a nice spot for hurts, but yeah, we're not gonna sit here and act like it's, it's the whole story on the guy.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they fucking won a lot of gay, there were 26 and 2.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe you've landed on Nick.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God, dude, the quarterback man,
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I said both, and you didn't accept my answer.
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not because Bolt is a shit answer.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the fucking truth.
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a shit answer.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bo!
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's Bo!
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's in jail and one of one is much without Nick.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Janna would win more if he had a better coach.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Bullshit.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, with a really good coach, you want him to throw the ball 35 times a game?
• 33:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm talking to Guy like Tomlin.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tomman's guy named Tomman.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, who Tomman have?
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me guess Mason Rudolph as a quarterback and let me guess any flick it Right, oh Hey Justin feels by the way that was a dope I mean, you know, it's one of those things where if you want to if you want I don't like I guess it's hurt to me It's the whole team.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can I take how he roseman?
• 33:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: How about fucking that?
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I take how are we roseman?
• 33:58
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• 34:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Neither of them have proven that it's, um, demonstrably not them or them either way.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Neither have proven that.
• 34:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there is one to the concept.
• 34:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's how we.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Really how we, right?
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm on an island.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Give me the greatest, a next-serie, honey, baby.
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, wait, I got another topic here on that time.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think another coach would have had as much success in Philadelphia if he was in here instead of Nick?
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I think you would have, no.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I think you would have erupted at the set-up.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, copy, you have to be a lackey.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, he doesn't really coach anything.
• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've been around too much football to have that take due come on with Jimmy Johnson, the offensive playholder.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, but Jimmy hired to play caller himself.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nick, are you all in?
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: What an entire talent.
• 35:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't believe that.
• 35:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, right.
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: When it works, you don't believe it.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, what I think is this, well, maybe he did hire him because you know what?
• 35:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was brought in to try to throw the ball and when they did, and they were turning the ball over like a turnover machine.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: He probably went to Kellon and said, and now we're going back to my way.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then get it.
• 36:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then they went to the Super Bowl, which, oh, wait, maybe let's go back to that question three minutes ago.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Nick Seriani offense, and where's the real fucking broad strip?
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So wait, it was more responsible for that Super Bowl.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nick, I already told you my answer.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: You erupted.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nick, Nick.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I erupted at.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I told you, give me a push.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Push.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You think it's more bellot check into Wingland.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, more Brady in the Wingland.
• 36:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you think, do you think, all right, so Tom left bellot check went to a new organization with a new team, a new roster, new coach, new GM, new everything.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think Jalen would be able to do that?
• 36:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'd tell you what I really loved about LeBron Brady.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: My favorite thing about LeBron Brady was that he left that football team and check out and went around and went, who's got the biggest and most pack roster I can go.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let me bring LeBron to Mike Evans, Chris Godwin.
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me bring my boy, Ron Ken.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, by the way, there's a guy there in Bruce Airens that has won a couple super bowls in Pittsburgh and also as my boy, we'll go down there
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, so now quarterback's don't need don't need good teams to win.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, he does.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: He obviously did.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: He went down to a loaded tap the team.
• 37:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Bullshit.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, Antonio Brown, Mike Evans, and Chris Brown Brown was there for a cup of tea.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't win the Super Bowl without Antonio Brown.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They do not win the Super Bowl without him.
• 37:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: LeBron Brady isn't insane kind of the broad Brady.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had a lead because I had a good first good 20 years in New England.
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about LeBron Brady and 20 years in New England?
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They went to nine super bowls.
• 37:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they won 9AFC championships and Bella check actually built the football team.
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's more than one just a quarterback.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's like DBs, online, yeah, wide outs.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're the, hey, you're the jerk who asked me the question, the coach of the quarterback.
• 38:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's nobody else.
• 38:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I'm going to take how I would take Vick before the two you gave me.
• 38:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm gonna ask you this on, I'm gonna ask you this on AJ and then we're gonna get super chats.
• 38:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Be appreciate you guys.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Please hit the like button.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look, now you got, now you got smart people like Chuck, talking silly.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, you're right Chuck.
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not impressive at all.
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: That Brady left and went to Tampa and won.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Keep taking them silly, Eli's guy.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, that's telling you the roster was so good anyway.
• 38:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, wait, Chuck, you ready Chuck?
• 38:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tristan Worse.
• 38:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Grunkowski just the worst is like a rookie that year.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't even that good.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was all pro.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey Was he out of even now?
• 38:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and by the way your boy Devon White was all pro All right, well, let me just give you something real quick for all the next series on e-haters.
• 39:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's been five years folks
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Doug Pears from his five years, Andy Reed 14 years, triple the tenure, Chip Kelly 3, Ray Rhodes 4, Rich Co. Ty 4, when you look back, all right, when you're on your, when you're, when you're old and you're sitting in your rock and chair on the porch and you're reading your Eagles and Cycle Pedia from Ray Dinninger.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, and Nick Seriani has more medals and more accolades and more achievements next to his name that any other coach that's ever been here in Philly are you going to look back at that the only guy who's got meaningful accolades and say, Oh, that guy was a freaking stiff man, you're a you guys talk about him like he's co-type.
• 39:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's ridiculous as fan base they talk about Nick Seriani like he's a but like he's a bag of rocks.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: guys.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's the most successful coach you've ever had.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, let me ask folks this question.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you had to coach and build a football team and coach it team to a 60 minute game, would you want Nick Serriani being on your sideline or dick for meal?
• 40:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or here's a better one.
• 40:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Would you want Andy Reed on your sidelines?
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think those win percentages are bullshit.
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're more on the type of coach what you're taking over who you are.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's like saying that Nick's got a better win percentage than Bill Parsells.
• 40:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: You take Nick over Parsells?
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't say that, don't put you in any of these.
• 40:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, what are you saying?
• 40:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you're telling me, I'm telling you in your history for the comparisons of coaches that we've had.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you would take Nick over for me.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 40:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I mean, I didn't watch for me a lot.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's got a better way of percentage.
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Next slide is accomplishes Andy Reed.
• 40:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, what version of Andy?
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, hold.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, wait, wait, because remember, I like Andy Reed.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: How many NSCJB took games that Andy Reed's team saw us?
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, how many Super Holes did they have in 15 years?
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: 14.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I don't think his roster's arrested.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't think it's all Andy.
• 41:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying that's kind of my point, precisely, is that everybody thinks Andy reads great coach.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
• 41:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nick Suriani has more accolades than Andy has.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, so it appears to me that the real MVP of this football team.
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he roseman.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, roseman.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that a general manager back then?
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was it kind of who's the guy that was to GM that you guys just came up with?
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Joe Banner.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: How he's better than Banner.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wait there.
• 41:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can you wait better than Joe Banner?
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely so.
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Super version of Joe Banner.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a super, yeah, I would say that.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I would, yes, I would say that.
• 41:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a man.
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got a lot of it, baby.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: The MVP, the Philadelphia Eagles.
• 42:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I was wrong.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was wrong in the beginning about him.
• 42:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't think you were wrong at the time.
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, a lot has changed the narrative on how we in the last five years.
• 42:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: He couldn't draft the save as life.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: He couldn't do it.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And 20 people won't, people will conveniently forget this.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mike Gale came on birth, 365, in 2021.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, the year that the year that Nixon around him was hired,
• 42:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: and said how it goes is top three general manager and football.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: He got obliterated in the comments obliterated.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is when we were first getting bigger on YouTube, you know obliterated.
• 42:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: What are you talking about how we should be far fire, how we flash that fire, how we, because of Jayle and Regger Pink, the year prior.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: A couple years have gone by, by the way, you've been on a show every year since that the narrative has changed greatly on how we in the last couple of years.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: People around the way too.
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying it wasn't that long ago that people were calling for his firing, either.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's four years ago.
• 43:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: 18 game seasons come and we're going to read your super.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to see anything game schedule?
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, not at all.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see a 16 game schedule.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go back to 16, 17 bullshit stupid.
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want healthy
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's a stupid, they're stretching to two thinnets.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, at some point, you have to be able to weigh when the pendulum swings.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they've reached the pendulum.
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: The league is good, you're capitalizing.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Continue your international mission to make more money.
• 43:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good thing if you think that's necessary to grow your bottom line.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't believe less is more.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe they've they've they've reached the max capacity and and soon you're going to start you know you're going to you're all right you are seeing a pretty crazy number of Achilles and knees.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: They already don't practice.
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean how much more do we really need?
• 44:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think the season is good.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought the season was good at 16 ball games.
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I did.
• 44:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now I get it.
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: The catcher is just to go burn and they got a freaking keep it going but I don't know man.
• 44:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think you've reached the
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think you've reached that threshold.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the last topic.
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll read your super, as I promise here.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mark Farzad is going to join us.
• 44:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: How did Stout and Go from being like so revered in the organization to all of a sudden, there's question marks on the guy now.
• 44:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I need a little perfect final question.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, hey, what an iconic year he had a year ago to wear all of a sudden now,
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Should they relieve them of his duties?
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: They did relieve them of his duties.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody will ever know anything inside that organization like the CIA, like your Aquanico.
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, all of a sudden out to where do you want to work with this guy with the Binky with 25 months of coaching?
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
• 45:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, how did it get here with him?
• 45:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you exactly how it got here.
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, if you're somebody listening right now, whether you're on the podcast or on the show or on the clip or on the live show right now, listen, all right.
• 45:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you're one of the idiots who just heard me a couple minutes ago, give credit to Nick Syriani, all right.
• 45:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're probably the same guy who was saying fire fire stolen for Cliff Kingsbury.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's do that.
• 45:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's do that because that'll fix the offense.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Same idiots.
• 45:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's at the same idiots sales going a fire style and for all these guys the same idiots who say Nick Serriani stinks They're all the same people We got a lot of idiots and fill it.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love filling.
• 45:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: They got a lot of idiots and if you're listening and you're one of those idiots I may be listening up.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe listen up
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, how to get there?
• 45:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It got a good experience.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: The offense has won bad year and it's because of a lot of reasons and they want to fire them for Clip Kingsbury.
• 46:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: What did John say about the modium?
• 46:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did they?
• 46:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure they'd demoted it.
• 46:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why?
• 46:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, from the right, they wanted to switch in the moment.
• 46:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now they're going to keep them down.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't come back.
• 46:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Would you?
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now there's five million reasons to come back.
• 46:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I won't let you get that.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not million dollars.
• 46:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're paying him five million dollars.
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think he's the highest paid old line coaching football.
• 46:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, that's semi-the-highest paid coordinator made less than that until this year.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm probably not going to do it.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have days probably.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, he's the best old line coaching football Mexican hand.
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he is.
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: 100%.
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know how he got here, Zander.
• 46:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm telling you how it got here, because the simpletons have a simple brain and they just go to the easiest person of blame.
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: The run game is bad, stop.
• 47:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what happened in the last decade?
• 47:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you were calling the best offensive one, I get a t-shirt for sale on my website, Stout You.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was, we were selling them less than a year ago.
• 47:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we were talking about the shelves.
• 47:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know, I know.
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: One bad year in a running game, or mediocre, or low-stallow now.
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go get Cliff King's Barry.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no logic.
• 47:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no rhyme or reason.
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no practical, pragmatic thought process that leads to these things.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Anybody who thinks Jeff's down, shouldn't get the respecter as a Hall of Fame online coach, is dumb, frankly, is dumb.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Vic retires, Stoutland leaves.
• 47:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't.
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, now you're talking about a tough situation.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if they shit the bed the head coach dead coaches out your hero.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a hero.
• 48:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not my hero.
• 48:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then why is the head coach?
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: How many times have I said on your show?
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, not my style of coach.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, how come then the owner has almost fired him two times in the last three years?
• 48:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at my boy Primo, he's rocking the stout you hoody right now.
• 48:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go, Primo, what are you talking about?
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Older ones of fire is ass of the last three years.
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or Cliff Kingsbury.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's how, that's how fat.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yo, Eagle fans, look, you're stealing, there's, she doesn't have to say it's gullible about that.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I kind of break through that.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go to reading.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at the bad signal.
• 48:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I'm going to go and read it.
• 48:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, go.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tom, you're falling for the banana and the tail plate.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tom, by the way, the Patriots are winning the game on Sunday.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: They'll be Super Bowl 50, 60 champions.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's what I say.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that your boy throws for 422 yards in the ball game.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're Donald.
• 49:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Donald throws for 14Es.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they blow that football team out 41.
• 49:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, that will be an amazing for Sandorno.
• 49:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have no dog in the fight.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really care either way.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I saw two guys at the podium last night.
• 49:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: One guy was shaking like a board.
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was stiff.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: stiff like a like a like a like the diving board at your local pool when you were a kid.
• 49:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: At the municipal pool, stiff.
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I saw Drake made loose relax, calm, cool, confident.
• 49:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got Drake Mayn, the patch went in the football game.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man, when you throw the ball, 55% completion percentage in the playoffs, you really don't have to fucking worry about what your game is, because you ain't done shit in this play offs.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, you know, it's not the weather played a, the weather played a factor of both yards.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and you could say the similar thing about, I mean, all Drake has to do is have one good game.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: You understand that.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Jalen didn't play all that good leading up to the Super Bowl last year.
• 50:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: He had a good energy championship game, but he didn't really play that great in the Rams game and the Packers game.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's got Jalen hurts all over.
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could play like shit, get to the game, and maybe play good in it.
• 50:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
• 50:29
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• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I don't really think it's 41-10.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I know you're being.
• 50:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know you're, you know.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what I do think.
• 50:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what I do think.
• 50:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be at the fence of battle.
• 50:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: On truth and all the kid in the side, I think there's two good defenses here.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that Donald, see, don't you agree with this number?
• 51:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the,
• 51:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the way that Seattle plays offense, if C-Ox throw interceptions, they can throw their way back into the game.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if the Patriots, if they turn the ball over, can throw themselves back in the game.
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're only true stars, what's that font digs?
• 51:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I can tell you.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the hunter or what's his name?
• 51:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a pretty supplier, but, you know, I just don't think, I think this is going to be something.
• 51:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: They got Kishan booty.
• 51:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: They got some guys, dude.
• 51:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Drake management getting that moving that ball around.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tell him, that's a solid squad.
• 51:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: If I said 2624 Seattle, would you be cold with that?
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's right in the ballpark.
• 51:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I could even see it being a little lower scoring man.
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Me too, don't be, don't be as simple to me too.
• 51:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot more things that go to know it than body language.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was just saying, I watched it last night.
• 51:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I said yesterday, I was liking your, I was liking the patch because I feel like everybody's on the sea auction, the patch seemed to me like, you know.
• 52:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: the team were ready for it.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll find out.
• 52:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll say, well, Seattle, though, was.
• 52:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Seattle's been prepped for this because look at their journey, Dad, to go through the end of class.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But sometimes that, you know, that boat's not as good for the long run, you know, where you could be burnt out, you know, that their best football is coming going.
• 52:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it is, man.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it makes it better.
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's football.
• 52:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you could be the best football team at the end of December.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And January could come and you could have a bad plot, you know what I mean?
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it got
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've got super.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's read them here.
• 52:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Guys.
• 52:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate you.
• 52:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Please hit that like button.
• 52:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can't be a good one.
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I had to roast so many people today on this show in the morning show.
• 52:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what's going on?
• 52:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, everybody in the chat.
• 52:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Here's hungry dogs.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Joe Banner, Larry's BFF.
• 52:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Banner got a piece.
• 52:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Got a piece.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Browns to leave.
• 52:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not sure what that means, but I thought Joe Banner was a really I thought he worked well with Andy, but I how he roseman has do he's gotten so much better since the jail and rager Since the jail and rager trade.
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, what are your draft.
• 53:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's the Browns to lead Browns to lead Browns to lead.
• 53:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I appreciate the super brother, I'm not sure what you're doing.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: My friend, here's Kyle.
• 53:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: If we glorify in Sierra County, like he's the best because his two Super Bowl appearance one way and in reality, he's like Mike McCormick.
• 53:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's been in coach for five years, Kyle.
• 53:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: What are you talking about, Kyle?
• 53:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's been in coach for five years.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're talking about him like he's a tenured guy.
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's a long saying.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's already the fourth longest tenured coach in Eagle's history.
• 53:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he's more excited on every single one of his predecessors.
• 53:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you think Sean McVay would have done here
• 53:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sean McVeigh would have done really good, but it would have looked a lot different.
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: By because the quarterback wouldn't be here.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Sean McVeigh traded his number one overall pick, and he was the same style of quarterback as the guy he traded for, which is a little bit worse.
• 54:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, I do.
• 54:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he would trade for the players that fit his offense.
• 54:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's ask you a question about any redone.
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Would Andy Reed succeed more with this version of how he rosemen them with Joe Banner?
• 54:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: But.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: The problem, the hard part to evaluate Andy is this.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Donovan is a good quarterback.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think Donovan McNabb is not a good quarterback.
• 54:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't either.
• 54:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, do you think Donovan McNabb is better at his time in his era than jail and hurt his in his era?
• 54:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so maybe the rosters weren't as good.
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Better player, you mean, right?
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, how are you?
• 54:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think Donovan was better.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: So,
• 54:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nick, Nick won with the roster today and has been more successful.
• 54:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Andy didn't really have great success with a good quarterback.
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, again, at the rosters weren't as good, but Andy didn't really have great success until Patrick Mahomes who's proven to be a generational player.
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know, it's a little harder to gauge.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm not saying anything like this at all.
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they had kept Doug, since he won that first Super Bowl, how did he think Doug would have done in the last five, six years with
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: with Jalen.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the one where you get me.
• 55:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think Doug would have done really good with this team.
• 55:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You think Doug would have won that 22 supral?
• 55:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure, it's tough to go back and live like that because they even get there.
• 55:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: They hired John thing, you know what I mean?
• 55:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like everything would have been different.
• 55:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's hard to gauge it like that.
• 55:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I do think specifically who I can say would have impacted, I think Doug Pearson and Jalen hurts would have been a better combination for each other than Nick and Jalen have been.
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: condense his offense, and that's in a way for us jailing the condense his game, whereas I think Doug would have found the right mix of how to get jailing the grow while also not putting so much on jailence played that we call ourselves games or or through a third and five times.
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think jailing hurts if I'm not mistaken one of his first games start and we brought this up before through the ball at 40 times one of his first games of Doug in the Cardinals.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look good.
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, let's work a year, but I think dog and jam would have been a solid, solid fit.
• 56:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You think it would have been a better fit?
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do a little bit because I think right now, I think they've been a successful fit right now.
• 56:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: But in a way, can we all agree?
• 56:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've both kind of condensed.
• 56:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like Nick has become one-dimensional in his offense.
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: He used to coach a Phil Brewer's offense.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Jalen has become a little bit more one-dimensional that he's no longer growing and becoming, you know, I think the quarterback that many people thought he could become at one point.
• 56:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's why he makes the comment about the street jackets.
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Some of those things do exist.
• 56:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, here's Flamen.
• 56:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: If rich coat rich coat type called the time out upon them third down I was at the game knee pad neck is slightly above that Yeah, right we can't chips.
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's slightly above rich coat type.
• 57:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not going there with you.
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going fans, but they're fucking delusional sometimes.
• 57:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: They really are.
• 57:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I'm not going.
• 57:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It next better than rich coat type.
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a mystery.
• 57:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Elf, thanks for the time box.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I am 59, I live most of my life as a loser eagle fan.
• 57:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: We need to appreciate the eight year window even if it closes.
• 57:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: My dad and uncle will never saw a suit, but wait, that's true.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's my uncle was telling me Christmas this year.
• 57:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy, crazy, you guys never saw that.
• 57:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Here's Hangardite.
• 57:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: You think the depth of O-Lime is talent and personnel are coaching if personnel and talent shouldn't, how it would be under scrutiny?
• 57:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I think how he's done a nice job since Jalen Rager.
• 57:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think per se I was one of the top three problems on the team last year?
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right, brother, that's all I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask for a zeta that question.
• 58:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm curious to hear what far as you said.
• 58:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: But curious to hear what he says to the question that everybody wrote before, too.
• 58:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: About Nick, yeah, I'm going to ask him that one, too.
• 58:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, bigs.
• 58:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: He will catch you tomorrow on the show on 1, 365.
• 58:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me appreciate it.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
• 58:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Love talking to my pies on brother here.
• 58:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to, I got a couple questions here because there was a question that's that the Super Bowl of Bob