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Full Episode: Dr. Simone Whitmore of Bravo’s “Married to Medicine,” Dr. Ian Smith of “The Doctors,” actor Hassan Johnson and Matchmaker Spicy Mari · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: My next guest is Dr Simone Whitmore. She's a Board
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  Speaker 1: certified O b g y N and star on Bravo's
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  Speaker 1: Married to Medicine returning for his eighth season with guests,
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  Speaker 1: well some of the co stars or stars or Dr
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  Speaker 1: Jacqueline of course of miss Dr Whitmore, Dr Heavily who's
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  Speaker 1: a danist, uh Dr to Tessa who's an occupying occupational medicine,
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  Speaker 1: Toya who's well Tarya, they're married to a doctor. And
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  Speaker 1: friends of the cast like NSA and the Cold Guard
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  Speaker 1: Well and Carrie Welles. New cast member this season, Anila
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  Speaker 1: a song on the pilot first year. She's a fashion
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  Speaker 1: blogup but she's married to doctor. Dr Simone. Whitmore is
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  Speaker 1: on my show to talk about COVID eight team as
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  Speaker 1: civil unrest. That's an erring on the season that she's
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  Speaker 1: experienced personally as well, and the upcoming season of marriage
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  Speaker 1: which is the eighth seed, the marriage to medicine and
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  Speaker 1: the realities of being a real doctor on a reality show,
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  Speaker 1: please walk and money making conversation for the very first time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to have her on the show. Dr Simone
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  Speaker 1: with more. How are you doing. I'm doing excellent and
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the reality shows at one time would consider I thought
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  Speaker 1: it would be a fad. I thought they wouldn't last,
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  Speaker 1: and at one time there was really out of control.
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  Speaker 1: They were physically out of control and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of noise, a lot of cussing, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fussing, a lot of drink throwing. And you decided
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  Speaker 1: to a being a certified doctor into this room. What
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  Speaker 1: what drove you or what was the motivation behind being
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  Speaker 1: a part of Married to Medicine. The reason I was
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  Speaker 1: willing to film reality TV is because I felt that
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  Speaker 1: little black girls in America needed to see somebody that
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  Speaker 1: didn't come from money. I came from an alcoholic dad,
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  Speaker 1: a single mom, and I know how to have a
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  Speaker 1: good time and live my life without the white coat.
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  Speaker 1: And I wanted little ground girls in America to see
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  Speaker 1: that if I did it, she can do it too. Well.
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  Speaker 1: You know you are doing that. It's in this an
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  Speaker 1: eight season and it's all about branding too and always
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  Speaker 1: about what people think of you. And that this is
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  Speaker 1: not a negative interview. These are just basic questions and
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  Speaker 1: that I'm just probing and just trying to get your
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  Speaker 1: story out because I think it's a really great story.
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  Speaker 1: I've watched I've watched the show offered on over the years,
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  Speaker 1: and my background is casting and producing, so I'm very
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  Speaker 1: familiar with your talents and a lot of your cast
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  Speaker 1: member quite where Up has been on my show several times.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of hers and so. But when
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  Speaker 1: you're when you're practicing doctor like you are, and you're
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  Speaker 1: on the reality show, does it and you have a practice,
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  Speaker 1: does it ever become an issue with the people that
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  Speaker 1: you are, that you are that are your patients. So
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  Speaker 1: most of my patients who have been with me for years,
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  Speaker 1: they know who I am. I may say a little
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  Speaker 1: mild cuss word in the office trying to be funny,
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  Speaker 1: and my patients understand me. When I came to reality TV,
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  Speaker 1: I came as my authentic self, no more, no less,
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  Speaker 1: just my authentic self. And what is your authentic self?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I love medicine, I love O B G.
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  Speaker 1: Y N. But I also like to have a good time,
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  Speaker 1: hang out shop, have a cocktail hour, and I love
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  Speaker 1: the lab. Well, you know, I think you're thinking, hear
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying. You want to break the stereotype, or
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  Speaker 1: if there's a stereotype, you want to say, this is
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  Speaker 1: me and it's all right. To be me with no
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  Speaker 1: with no um. I guess you know. Standards are are
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  Speaker 1: because some people kind of put people on pedestals. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what you're saying that please look at me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Dr Samone with Moore, I am, I am board certified,
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  Speaker 1: I am successful, I'm happily married. I have a son
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  Speaker 1: about to go to college. He's living a good life,
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  Speaker 1: and I live in a of a home. Why can't
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  Speaker 1: I be me? Why can't I be Why can't I
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  Speaker 1: dress this way and this fashion fashion savvy? Why can't
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  Speaker 1: I eat this way? Why can't that laugh out lot
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  Speaker 1: in public? So in your sense, you're feeling that there
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  Speaker 1: are certain standards that people hold doctor's too, that should
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  Speaker 1: be pulled down or accepted. That it's all right to
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  Speaker 1: be a human being. Not to say that any standard
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  Speaker 1: that we have or the way we see our doctors
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  Speaker 1: should be pulled down, but they should be humanized. Man,
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  Speaker 1: we are human first. And I have that doctor before
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  Speaker 1: my name. Now I have that m D after my name,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not on my birth certificate. It does not
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  Speaker 1: define who I am. I'm a wife, I'm a mother,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a sister, I'm a girlfriend. And again life is
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  Speaker 1: about being well rounded. My dad always taught me that
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  Speaker 1: be well rounded. Well, you know the thing I got
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  Speaker 1: that impression of you, uh and the first episod so
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  Speaker 1: of the eighth season, which I did get a chance
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  Speaker 1: to see because I want to make sure I was
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  Speaker 1: caught up to speed, you know, where the characters were
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  Speaker 1: being developed, and first of the first basically the first
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  Speaker 1: episode is your episode. Like I said, you joked off
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  Speaker 1: air and said, you know you start why not? And
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  Speaker 1: so it ended with you and you and you're Jackie.
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  Speaker 1: Still got issues, heavenly got issues. You know, your son
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  Speaker 1: about to go off to college. But I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was a real tender moment in there, your conversation with
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  Speaker 1: your son about racism, you know, because that's a reality
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  Speaker 1: that you know. I have a daughter, she's uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's in college, and but even having a young African
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  Speaker 1: American male that has to be even more stressful knowing
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  Speaker 1: he's going to an environment that may have seeds of racism.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that and we're just talking about parenting. That's
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  Speaker 1: me or not, we're both parents. But you had a
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  Speaker 1: conversation with your son, how do you feel? And you know,
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  Speaker 1: lights on on and lights I felt that was a
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  Speaker 1: real conversation was having with him. But that still has
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  Speaker 1: to be some hesitation about him walking out that door.
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  Speaker 1: And and because you want him to come home. You
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  Speaker 1: wanted to when you when you call that phone, you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to answer. You want to be there when he's happy.
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  Speaker 1: You want to be there when he said, But you
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  Speaker 1: want to be there when somebody is doing it wrong
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  Speaker 1: because you didn't put eighteen years of your life into
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  Speaker 1: him or bring him into this world for ignorance to
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  Speaker 1: step into, you know, shortening his life or causing difficulty
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  Speaker 1: in his life. We've always taught our sons to respect authority,
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  Speaker 1: to not run your mouth, not to talk back when
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  Speaker 1: a police or a teacher or any of those is
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  Speaker 1: talking to you. But one of the most important things
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  Speaker 1: we try to teach our sons do not have an
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  Speaker 1: encounter with the police. So it means abiding by the law,
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  Speaker 1: not speeding when you're driving down the highway. And we
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  Speaker 1: had always thought if we taught our boys be respectful,
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  Speaker 1: follow the rules, that they would always come home. And
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  Speaker 1: George Lloyd that video last year showed us that you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to be doing anything illegal. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be running you don't have to be talking back,
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  Speaker 1: and you could still lose your life based on someone
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  Speaker 1: else's perception of what they think a black man is.
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  Speaker 1: And that's you know, being a black man. And I
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  Speaker 1: think then you and and and at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the Premierre episode of the eighth season, they do the
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  Speaker 1: Fellas get around talking about you know, being pulled over
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  Speaker 1: being a black man in America. The reality is that
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  Speaker 1: you are raising a young black man in America and
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  Speaker 1: he's going to school. Tell us about the school that
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  Speaker 1: he's going to, you know, not in the environment, and
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  Speaker 1: how what makes you feel comfortable about him going because
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  Speaker 1: he has to feel comfortable he's going, okay, but what
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  Speaker 1: also is making you feel uncomfortable about the environment that
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  Speaker 1: he's going to. So the school is Lee University in Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: tennis See. Cleveland, Tennessee is a small town in Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: that's near Chattanooga. But I just remember that during the
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  Speaker 1: pandemic the school was closed. We drove up to Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee just to drive around the campus to see what
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  Speaker 1: it was like since he didn't get the traditional tour
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  Speaker 1: with school open. And I just remember as we're driving
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  Speaker 1: through this small town of Cleveland seeing all of the
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  Speaker 1: Confederate flags. So when I saw those, of course I
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  Speaker 1: became concerned. Downtown Cleveland has a Confederate monument which is walking.
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  Speaker 1: This is from the school and it's a small school,
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  Speaker 1: majority white. It's a Christian school. And the reason we
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  Speaker 1: were willing to take the chance for him to go
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  Speaker 1: to the university. Number one, you just hope, you really
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  Speaker 1: hope that people who are claiming to be Christians are
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  Speaker 1: Christians somehow that God is touching their minds, their souls,
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  Speaker 1: their bodies to really live a Christian life. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: there were some other basketball players whom he had spoken
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  Speaker 1: with over the summer who had not had any racial encounters,
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  Speaker 1: and we're not having any difficult time on campus. Is
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  Speaker 1: the reason we decided that it would be okay for
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  Speaker 1: him to attend the university. You know, the interesting thing
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  Speaker 1: about it is that this is part of married to medicine.
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  Speaker 1: This is a part of the lessons of life, lesson
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  Speaker 1: that are relatable to it. Because this that that storyline
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  Speaker 1: was relatable to me. My daughter was, you know, um
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  Speaker 1: a tennis phenomen at sixteen, and so she was going
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  Speaker 1: out there playing that she blew out her knee in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen and now she's in college and very happy for her.
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  Speaker 1: But the reality is that where can you send your Sunday?
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  Speaker 1: He won't experience racism indirectly or directly, you feel me.
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  Speaker 1: So so you're you're basically and you're and your husband
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  Speaker 1: bakingly say and yes, we're uncomfortable, but this is life.
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  Speaker 1: You know. We hope we've raised them. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: putting any words in your mouth. I'm just talking like
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  Speaker 1: a parent that hopefully we raised them with the values
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  Speaker 1: like you told him. You know, if it's in a
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  Speaker 1: thirty or five drift, thirt or five son, okay, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a void ignorant for cop pulls you over, tend to understand.
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  Speaker 1: World said yes, sir, no sir, till you get out
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  Speaker 1: the car. Get out the car. Don't we playing loud
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  Speaker 1: music unnecessarily? So these are the rules that we lived
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  Speaker 1: by because of the color of our skin. And like
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  Speaker 1: you said, all America, all of America, because it was
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  Speaker 1: involved and it was in the uproar, including white people
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  Speaker 1: when they finally saw and that's I think that we
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  Speaker 1: all were happy finally when you saw that on top
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  Speaker 1: of COVID, because you are a legitimate doctor. How does
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  Speaker 1: that affect your practice and also your daily life when
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  Speaker 1: COVID came on top of it reality, because we all
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  Speaker 1: thought KOVID was gonna be a couple of months, we
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  Speaker 1: were turned to normal. It's not right. Working in the
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  Speaker 1: medical field during a pandemic has been an interesting thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Continually, I don't in fear at all, but
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  Speaker 1: just trying to make sure that I stayed up to
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  Speaker 1: date and educated on this virus because it felt like
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  Speaker 1: it was changing. Things were changing in the medical field
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  Speaker 1: week by week early on, and just making sure that
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  Speaker 1: I updated my patients and encouraged them to stay safe.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have pregnant patients during this time, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see them sick. And sometimes the
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  Speaker 1: young people are a little harder to convince that the
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  Speaker 1: virus is real and deadly. Well, you know, isn't it
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  Speaker 1: what We all immortal at that age? You know, we
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  Speaker 1: get safe, we get up. You know, I should tell free,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I should get a flu. I go play
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  Speaker 1: a game of basketball, and they said sweat it out
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  Speaker 1: of me, and so I trying to sweat it out
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  Speaker 1: of me now because I'll be laying on the court. Doc,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But the beauty of this show is that
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  Speaker 1: you have friends. You know, one of your friends and
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  Speaker 1: this was one of the lead storylines of the opening season,
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  Speaker 1: was your friendship with Jackie twenty three years in And
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  Speaker 1: I'm just to let you know that in the in
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  Speaker 1: the opening episode, Jackie was constantly talking about getting back
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  Speaker 1: with you, talking about I just want to reconcile, And
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  Speaker 1: then they showed you constantly, never saying that they they well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what it is what it is,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, and as a producer and an editor,
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  Speaker 1: I know they can play characters to develop storylines. And
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  Speaker 1: so this is a person you've known for twenty three years.
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  Speaker 1: She's an original member of the show, along with yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you go when you see these storylines being developed?
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  Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to Heavenly in a minute. But
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the friendship of Jackie and
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  Speaker 1: Simone m So I again, I come to reality TV
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  Speaker 1: as my authentic self. I'm not going to fake a friendship.
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  Speaker 1: I Am not going to pretend to make up unless
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  Speaker 1: my heart is really in it, right. And Jackie and
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  Speaker 1: I have known each other a very long time, and
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  Speaker 1: of all the cast on this show. She knows me
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  Speaker 1: the best, I know her the best, and I did
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  Speaker 1: not want to make up for TV's sake. I just
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  Speaker 1: wasn't interested either we were gonna have a genuine sit
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  Speaker 1: down conversation or not. But I didn't want to make
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  Speaker 1: up just for TV's sake. And I'm just asking now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just asking, So what is makeup
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  Speaker 1: for TV sake versus having a genuine sit down? Would
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  Speaker 1: it be on camera or would it be off camera
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  Speaker 1: between you and jack Um? It could be either one
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  Speaker 1: quite frankly, because again, I'm going to express my real
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions. And it doesn't matter whether a camera
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  Speaker 1: is rolling or not. When you say true to who
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  Speaker 1: you are, it doesn't matter whether a camera is present
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  Speaker 1: or not. Well you showing that, now you've shown that.
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  Speaker 1: Now heavenly? How is heavenly? She was a dentist, you know, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all joke about that a lot throughout the seasons. Though
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  Speaker 1: we just said Dr Danni is even Anila came in
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  Speaker 1: cracking jokes. Crack joke, she's a blogger, Okay, gonna crack
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  Speaker 1: jokes on the dentist. Um, So how does she get
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  Speaker 1: in between the two of you. Guys, did I miss
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  Speaker 1: that episode of some well so? In actual in actuality,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that heavenly came between me and Jackie,
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  Speaker 1: and that is how I felt last year. But in
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic, I spent more time at home. I was
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  Speaker 1: able to think about things and get my feelings in check,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, and basically I mean Heavily and I
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  Speaker 1: have gone back and forth, back and forth, getting along
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  Speaker 1: not getting along over the years since she started the
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  Speaker 1: show on season two. As a matter of fact, she
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  Speaker 1: hated me and Jackie when she started, we hated her.
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  Speaker 1: The feeling was mutual, but over the years we had
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  Speaker 1: all grown to become close friends. But Heaviley and I
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  Speaker 1: would get into it one talk for a couple of
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  Speaker 1: months on in our camera, and Jackie always gave me
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  Speaker 1: her thoughts and opinions. She would tell me, I think
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  Speaker 1: you shouldn't even be taking this stuff, Heavily saying too serious,
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  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing this, or you should be doing that,
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  Speaker 1: and she always talked to both of us. This time,
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  Speaker 1: my friend of twenty three years decided she didn't have
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  Speaker 1: any words on it, because I guess she didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to hurt my feelings, but she knows me. She had
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  Speaker 1: never been her tongue before. And you know that expression,
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  Speaker 1: cat got your tongue, I'll just leave you with the cash. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when y'all didn't have a sit down, she
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  Speaker 1: said that she was gonna be It was on camera
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  Speaker 1: that she didn't want to make a decision, she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to make it, and then you took that very personal
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  Speaker 1: and so I see now you know Dr Heavenly, who
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  Speaker 1: is a dentist by the way, is uh is reveling
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  Speaker 1: in this breakup. I think she's reveling and driving a
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  Speaker 1: wage between the relationship and personally and personally, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Jackie sees that. Am I correcting assuming that I
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  Speaker 1: think Jackie is not eve or she's or she has
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  Speaker 1: developed a wall of stubbornness to say that she's not
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: gonna be bothered. So I don't think. I definitely think
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Jackie is aware of what Heavenly is doing. But Heavenly
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: is also Jackie's bulldog, right, and so maybe that is
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: just the strategy that you would rather have this bulldog
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: who defends you even on the days you're wrong. She's
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: still defending you with An interesting thing to my show
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  Speaker 1: is called money making conversation. You are an entrepreneur, a
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  Speaker 1: small business owner, Let's talk about that whole process of
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: dealing with because people want to hear anyboy show about advice.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: What would you give and old starting to practice? How
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: would you hire people? I always tell people, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: have a great r HR person when you you gotta
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: have a great accountant. That's my early notes to anybody's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: starting to start, especially accountant. Don't be sitting over there
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  Speaker 1: talking to trying to do books by yourself and you've
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: never done books before. So as a as a as
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  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur who start up because you represent you know,
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  Speaker 1: the fastest growing population and entrepreneurship or African American females,
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  Speaker 1: and you are an African American female, you are star,
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  Speaker 1: you are brand. Talk about being a small business owner
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: just when you started, but also now doing COVID nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: What I would talk what I would recommend for anybody
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  Speaker 1: who is starting a business, doing as much research as
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you possibly can before you start your business. Know the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: industry you're gonna going into, Know some of the pitfalls
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: of the industry you're going into. And for me, I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: was already practicing medicine before I opened up a business.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: You can't even imagine how hard it's going to be
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: until you actually open those doors. But I do agree
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: with you that you have to have an accountant who
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: gives you advice regularly. And what I like to say
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: is count all your pennies, look for your pennies, figure
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  Speaker 1: out ways when you're buying supplies that you could save
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: money because you may be only buying from this supplier.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: But then somebody over here has a cheaper learned how
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to build relationships so that when you need help you
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: can get help. You need a banking relationship, that relationship
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: with an accountant. You need relationships with people in the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: industry who are doing the exact same thing you're doing,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: just to get advice on the pitfalls when they actually happened,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: how to get out of those pitfalls, and just know
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that no matter what happens, you can always depend on
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: yourself in business for yourself. There you go. Now, when
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: one going closing question is about you didn't plan on
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: because we talked about budget, you said, always count your
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: pennis no where every penny is. We did not think.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And I'm saying I'm a business owner. I did not
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: see masking my budget. I didn't see hand sanitizing my budget.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't see working from home and my budget and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: telling medicine. I'm sure we're picked up strongly in your business,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: but like I said, you're dealing with with you know O. B.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: G Ryan profession, So tell the medicine almost like what
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: is that? So? How did that affect your business model?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And also your employees? How did you work through that?
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Like I was able to do teleconferencing because I'm just
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: dealing with graphics and I'm a production company, but you're
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: in medicine. How did you deal with that? And how
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: did your patients deal with that? So definitely finding PPE
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to purchase and purchasing PPE was an additional expense. But
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: what I tell any anybody who's in business for themselves,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: always save for a rainy day, because if you have savings,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: when you run into these additional expenses, it just shouldn't
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: be that big of a deal. So you either have
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the savings or you have a credit line with the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: bank available to help you in a in a financial need.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: But with staff, I tried to stay calm and try
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to reassure them. For me, with pregnant patients. I was
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: not able to do all of the visits using telemedicine.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Surely we did some, but not all. And what I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: did was we continue to come to the office. We
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: shortened the office hours, and I continue to make payroll
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: for the full forty hours a week. But again, just
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: looking for resources out there, there were a ton of
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: resources available to small businesses. I applied for the P
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: P P loan. My big bank didn't give it to me,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: so I went to my small bank. And again I
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: have two banks. I have the big bank, I have
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the small bank. Nobody told me to do it that way.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: That is just one of those life lessons that I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: learned early on in practice. And I've been in solo
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: practice since two thousand four. So you learn things, and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: there are always gonna be hiccups and speed bumps. You
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: just have to learn something from every speed bump in
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the road. Well, you know, I gotta close, and I said,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: was my last question. But I had to bring this
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: up because my wife is important in my life. You know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: speed bumps. As you're talking about the speed bumps, you
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: gotta turn to somebody for some truth and sometimes for
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: some advice. Sometimes that truth is not what you want
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to hear, but it also comes with good advice because
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you know that person is going to be honest with you.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: So I'm leaving our question to your husband, who plays
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: an amazing support role. I'm gonna just tell you, doctor,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of yours. I've always been a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: fan of yours. And when you had that conversation with
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: your son when he was shooting the basketball, I was
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: over the roof with you because that was pure. That
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: was pure, honestly to me, you know, because it was
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: relatable to me, and uh and it and it and it,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and it was a seed that bore out of your
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: husband being there. Because African American young men need that male,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: that male, Look how to treat women, Look how what
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you do in all these different situations. To talk about
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: your strong support group, you know my man, talk about
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: him right quick before we close it out. So Cecie
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and I have been married for twenty five years, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: he has definitely been a great sounding board when I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: asked him about business advice, and he loves to do research.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: But as any marriage goals, we have certainly had our struggles.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Our marriage actually came to the brink of the brink
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: of a divorce, which I shared on reality TV, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I was so thankful for this reality TV family who
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: helped us to realize that we were being stubborn. We
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: had stopped listening to one another, and we were able
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: not only to reconcile, but to make some differences in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: our marriage so that we could keep on going in
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and not just keep going, but keep going strong with
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you for coming on money making Conversations.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I just want to really lay it on the line
• 25:41
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• 25:43
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• 25:44
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• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the fact, and I try to give good questions to
• 25:49
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• 25:52
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  Speaker 1: you a history on his book here. First, New York
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  Speaker 1: Times bestselling author of Cleaning Lean, The Clean, Twenty Shred,
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  Speaker 1: Super Shred, The Shred, Power Cleans, and the Blast to
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• 29:33
  Speaker 1: used it dearly until she passed away. As the host
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of the syndicated television show The Doctors, he has created
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  Speaker 1: two national health initiatives. I was involved in the first
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  Speaker 1: one Million Pound Challenge with Steve Harvey, State Farmed and
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  Speaker 1: the Makeover Miles So I Got Great History, Dr Ian
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  Speaker 1: Smith and served two terms on the President's Council on Fitness,
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  Speaker 1: about his newest book, fast Burned The Power of Negative
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  Speaker 1: Energy Balance. This Marxist twenty book, fast Burn was released
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: on April thirteen. Checked this out and immediately his numerous
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  Speaker 1: nine the New York Times best Seller List and number
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  Speaker 1: nineteen the USA Today best Seller List and number nine
• 30:14
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• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a dear friend and inspiration and uh and a real
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: doctor by the way, doctor to money baking comfortation, Dr
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Ian Smith. How you doing, my brother ever Shano? Great?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Great to join you. How you feeling really good? Man?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You still look at Trie You're still looking at good
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you know? You know? I guess I've been seeing you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: all the way back to Jenny Jones Days, right, Yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: it's been a long time. And I you know, I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: was saying to you before we started the broadcast that
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting old like everybody else. However, I'm
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: in the fight. I think that in life in a
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: fight in a good way, not a negative way. But
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't just resign yourself to things just happening.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: You have to say, I'm gonna be convicted and determined
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: um to make a way out of nowhere. And so
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: what I try to do all the time is and
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not always successful, but I try every day to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: be a better me. And when it comes to the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: physical aspect, you know, I work out like a lot
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of weights. I try to eat better. I'm not perfect
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: in my eating, but I try to eat better. Uh.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And I think that if people follow just that basic
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: kind of idea that I'm going to be better in
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: my physical movement better and my nutritional intake. I think
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: people be happier and look better and feel better. Well.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: The thing about our relationship is that you know, I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: got bad eating habits and so and people always say, man,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: but you don't look like you eat habits because I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: read his books. You know, I'm one of them. I'm
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: one of them. I want them good and bad customers.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: You know, when when when it gets bad, Doc, I
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: go to your book. When it's when it's good, I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: get off your book. You know what I'm saying. But
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: but it allows me a system of of direction. And
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's what we're trying to talk about here,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: because so many people out there have health, health issues,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: they have weight issues because they don't have direction and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: also a direction that's uh. I think it's tied to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: common sense. And that's what I've always felt that your
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: books are tied to common sense. Correct. Yeah, you know
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because so many people will
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: say to me, well on Instagram or Facebook with dr Ian,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this, and I'm doing that and I'm doing this.
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  Speaker 1: But the problem is it's not that people don't often
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: know what to do or how to do it. It's
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that they don't have structure. Right, you gotta have structure.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: You just can't say I'm want to eat better, but
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: what does that mean? I'm gonna exercise better? What does
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that mean? And so I tell people all the time yeah, well,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, what you're doing what it sounds like.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It sounds good, but it's not working well because we
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: need structures in our in our life, and with fast burn,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the structure is very simple. It's nine weeks um. It's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: based on affordable, regular, accessible food. You have to go
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: to five different grocery stores to buy it. But it's realistic.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: That's the key, Rashan. A plan is not going to
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: work for people if it's not sustainable and realistic. And
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: so I wrote this plan from the standpoint of the US.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: And what I mean by that, I mean I asked
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: two thousand people in my Facebook group to try out
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  Speaker 1: the original draft of the plan and they gave you
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: their feedback. What they liked, but they didn't like what worked,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: what didn't work. Uh. The average weight loss was fifteen
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: to seventeen pounds and nine weeks. And as much as
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I helped them, they helped me because I realized there
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: are certain ways to make it easier. So for example,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: things that people to be complain about in the program
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I took care of. You can have alcohol on the program.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: There's pasta, there's bread, there's state, there's pizza. I mean
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: all these things, uh that programs say you cannot have.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I said, you can still have it, but let's do
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it in a way where we have in a healthier
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: manner but equally tasty. Right, you can't go healthy and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: still not be tasty. So I try to do both
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: and fat and fast burned. And I think that's why
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: people like it. Well, it's it's gonna be proved to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: be my favorite now because you know, as I stated earlier,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I am not the best patient. You know, if if
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Dr his People was my was my doctor officially give
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: you Roshane, come on now, you really really really tripping that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: But in your book you you allowed me to like
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the eat in proportion, which is really always the key too,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and when you eat is the key as well. And
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: like I said, it's also knowing your body, because you
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that, because a lot of
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: people don't listen to their body. They don't listen to
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: the wady body when you're telling you you know, because
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: that's why I always heed the story about people talking about,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: oh he looks so healthy. Well, I bet you if
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you don't went to a doctor, the doctor they ever
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: told me at the high blood pressure, high cholesterol, level
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: talk about that whole process because your book is, like
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I said, it's a true guide, but there are all
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: steps that they have to take to go along with
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: your book to be successful. Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I think that. Um, what people have to understand is
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: that these books are blueprints. Yes, folks, are not the Bible.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: This book says, this is a guide for you. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the reason why people really like fast Burns because it's
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: so customizable. Like when you think about it, you know,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: no one wants to be dictated to what they have
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: to eat every day, but they do want to have options.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: So there are options in the book. Every day, every
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: meal that has options to it. So you're vegan, vegetarian, paskeeterian, carnivore,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can make it work for you. So
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you have you have lots of options. Then the other
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: part of it is some people say, well, you know,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to a gym. I don't
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: like to go to a gym. I said no. Chapter thirteen.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: These are all at home exercises you can do without
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: a gym membership, without the need for machines, thirty minutes,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: forty four or five days a week, and you know what,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you can break it up fifteen minutes in the morning,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: fifteen in the afternoon. So I think that people really
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: are looking for plans that are allowing them not just
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: to diet rashan for the short term, but to make
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: lifestyle changes. That's why I'm interested. I'm interested in you
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: making a lifestyle change that you can live with. And
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: so do I want you to be perfect? No? Do
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I expect you to be perfect? Absolutely not. But let
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: me give you an example. If you know you're going
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: out to dinner, and you know you're going to a
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: place that doesn't have the healthiest of foods, I want
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you in your mind to say, you know what, tonight,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we're eating at so and so restaurant where it's not
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of great choices. So for breakfast and lunch,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really good. I'm gonna really make sure
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that I make smart decisions. So when dinner time comes
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: and I have whatever I'm gonna have, I don't feel guilty.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Number one and number two, it's not gonna really hurt
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: me because I ate so well early the day that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: to me, is the better way to live life. You
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: don't want to always be on a restricted you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: heavily specified program. I want you to do a fast
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: burn for nine weeks. Then I want you to put
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: it on the shelf and say, Okay, now I am
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: prepared in all the situations that come at me to
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: make better decisions. Whether the better decision part comes into
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Your career has always been tied
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: to I'm not gonna I'm lead the book a little
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: bit because your role as host of the Doctors, which
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: was a groundbreaking to me. Also, it was groundbreaking because
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it happened during COVID and you our real doctor. It
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: affected African Americans overtly, people of color overtly. And so
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: with that being said, your role. As as happy as
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: we were because you came on my show, we talked
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: about it, what you're gonna do, but we all we
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: all thought that COVID would kind of like come and go,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and now we see it's not gonna go at all.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like going to be like the flu.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have seasonal uh COVID eighteen shots. Look, we're
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: talking two questions. The first question is coming into perspective
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: your role in what you had to play as the
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: host of the doctors and COVID eighteen. And then the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: long term would be my second of us living with COVID. Yeah,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: two great questions. So the reason why I agreed to
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: host the show this year was because if you think
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: back before this year, there was a lot of misinformation,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of you know, incredible discredible information that was
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: being disseminated from the White House on down, and I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: felt like the country was infused and that doctors and
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: scientists were not leading the conversation. If you're in a
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: health crisis, the doctors and scientists need to lead the discussion.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: If you're in a financial crisis, the economists need to
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: lead a discussions. I mean, this is just how it works.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: And so I felt like we had spent a year
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: spinning our wheels listening to all kinds of nonsense, and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: so this to me personally, it was a great opportunity
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: to be on a big show with a big, flat platform,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to bring in experts to talk about the issues. And
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I also wanted to bring in diverse experts because experts
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: come in all shapes and sizes and all colors and background.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to bring people from all walks of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: life and all experts from all different voices to come
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: in on the show, So that, to me, person was
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: very important, and I think we did a great job
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: of being able to communicate to the rest of the
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: country all things related to COVID, whether it was vaccines, treatment,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: people who are long haulers, how do you raise kids
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: during COVID, how do you date during COVID? All these
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: topics were important, and I think that when I look
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: back at my career, this will have been a very
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: important year because I had some small say in shaping
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the conversation around COVID and and dealing with COVID and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: also trying to get people on air to talk about
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: it an incredible way. Now, when you look at the
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: long term of COVID, however, uh, we're at We're at
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a very critical point here because people who have not
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: gotten the vaccine, a lot of them don't want to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: get the vaccine, and we need to still reach what's
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: called herd immunity, which basically says that enough people have
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: either gotten vaccinated or been infected that the vast majority
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: of the population is immune to getting sick and infected again.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Herd immunity. Now, there are two ways to get to
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: hurt immunity. You can get there by vaccinating everybody. That's
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the fastest way to do it, that's the less costly
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: way to do as far as life. If you vaccinate everybody,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: we save lives, we get hurt immunity. But some people
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: won't take a vaccine. So what does that mean? We
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: can still reach her to immunity. But what that means
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: is the people who do not want to take the
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: vaccine eventually will get infected because the virus is like
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the cold virus, It's just gonna stay there and so
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: those who don't. So imagine a hundred people, imagine eighty
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: people get the vaccine. That means those eight people are protected.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Now you've got twenty people. Okay, these twenty people who
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: do not want the vaccine, the virus is gonna circulate
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: within them. And then once you get infected, then you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: will have some type of immunity. That's what happens, right,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: They'll get infected. If they survive, they will have some immunity.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: We don't know how long that immunity lasts, We don't
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: know how long, how good it is, but they will
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: have some immunity. But what about the people who get
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: it and will die from So you're gonna reach her
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: to immunity one way or the other. I just think
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: we should do it without losing a lot more loss
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: of life. Well, we're are losing lives. And I'm gonna
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: tell you I never took the flu vaccine. I have been.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I've told about a visor to both of my back
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: nation shots. At the time of the man, I feel
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: comfortable and kind of gave me my life back. I'm
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. Dr. I was like, you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I was a high degree. I was paring or I'm
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. First, when the first hit,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't know how to go out of this store,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: let alone Philip put gas in my car. What do
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I touch? What I don't touch? What? Well? How do
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I do touch? With stering? Where when they get back
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: in the car door, A touch the door and off
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: went opened the door. The door went open, my car door.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: So so when I got fascinated, I developed a I
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: still wear my mask when I go out in public.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I sit down, I take it off from
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: a eating But I really I think that I really
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: want you to tell my um my audience about that
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: comfort zone that you would get and I've said it
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: many times, but I would just let you know this man,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: how important you are. Sometimes you know you do stuffing
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: on the regular basis. Dr and Smith. There are no
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: other black voices or voices of your color on TV
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: talking to us. Understand that now you know that's some
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: great for it. Dr Vaci is great. Dr George great,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I love him. Coup to eas great, but he's not
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: you and so and that's important that you understand that
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: because you're just doing your job. You're you're you're buried
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: at what you do. You you're saving lives on regular basis.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't know that you are seven. You just somethings,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: just doing your job like any doctor will do. When
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: you go into the hospital, I just feel your hospital
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: is the TV, your hospital is social media, your hospital
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: is a public medium, and so you don't immediately see
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the results because you're not there checking on us once
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: a week or we're not coming in and checking on
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: with you. But your voice as an African American talking
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: to us, it's so important that at this point for
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: me to get you back on my show, not only
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: to promote your incredible book, because you've never failed me,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: with your diet plans. I've used them many times. And
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I've told you many times when the book that I
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: recommend my mother to use your book and us just
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: ro I said, yes, he's using it right now, okay,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: and happen And so what is your role? And my
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: am I putting too much on your plate? No, no,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: you're not. You know it. Actually, while I am happy
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: on one hand, um, to are you being laudatory and
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: complimentary about what I do and it's impact on people,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: it's also very sad to me. It's sad to me
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: because there are a lot of other undiscovered doctor Ian's
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: out there who are going to be better than me
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: at what I do, who are equally educated, equally articulate,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: equally informative, and equally helpful. Uh. And they're out there,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: brothers and sisters. Uh. And you know it's lonely being
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the only um. And it shouldn't be that way. We
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: need to have more of our young brothers and sisters
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: be given the opportunity not to become dr even to
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: be better than Dr Ian. Uh. You know, I'll accept
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: that I'm a pioneer in a way, and I but
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: my hope is I've paved away for more. I'm not
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: one of those people who become successful and then don't
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: turn around, uh and and not try to help other
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: people to get through the gates. I want as many
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: of us to get to the gates as possible. And
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that in this, in this this time,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: this moment of racial awakening and awareness, that people will
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: reevaluate all aspects of our society and look at TV
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and look at the people who we bring on to
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: talk about education and law and politics and medicine and
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: realize we gotta have diverse voices talking. It just can't
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: be the same people all the time. So while I've
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: been very blessed to have my platform, and you guys
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: invite me always to be on your platforms, there are
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of younger brothers and sisters who can do
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the same thing, and I want them to have a chance.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: As I said to you before the show started, listen, man,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I'm getting older. I've been doing this for almost twenty
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: five years. This time for me to go out and
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: play more golf and be with my family. And I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: still write books, but but I want to leave the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: stage and hand it off to somebody else. Um, but
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: people who are in charge of who gets on the
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: stage need to have the awareness, um and the open
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: mindedness to bring others in. And that's that's what's important
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: to me, Rashan, is that other people get a chance
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to voice. I am not uniquely intelligent. There are other
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: intelligent people who have gone to great schools, who have
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: great information, who can say the same thing, if not
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: saying in a better way than I said. I want
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: them to have a voice and have an artist. So
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping, um that when people look back on my career,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: they will say not how many bestsellers that I have
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: in books, but that they'll say, you know what, dr
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Ian Smith was a pioneer and he opened the doors
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: for all these people to be able to come out
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: and talk to the world, uh and represent us as
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: African Americans and a respectful, proud um and professional manner. Okay, cool,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: you know, as they said, you know you said some
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: great things, sir, thank you. You know, you know you know,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: but I gotta I gotta as rebuttle on you. Those
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: books that you write are important because you're in African
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: American and guess what books are a number one because
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: they were bought by black people. So that means that
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: you have you have, you have cleared the way as
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a pioneer for people to respect medical advice, die advice,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: life advice from a person that doesn't look like them.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: That's why you're important. That's why I can't push you
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: aside as you say, I'm ready to go play golf
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: spending got all that. That's what vacations are far Okay,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: we're talking about We're talking about legacy creates a path.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about when I'm
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: in trouble, I need my voice, you know, when I
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: was growing up man before the foul cheese and all
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: the world. Dr Welby m D you know my man,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: all right, And so these are the things that we
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: grow up on. I'm just saying is that you have
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: become an institution. And I'm just telling you just slow down, doc, okay,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: and realized be appreciated with what I'm saying about. I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: know you are. I know men, you go way back,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: but twenty five years is just twenty five years now.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Uh Now, if you come on the show with show
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: and come on the show with the Pope barely gray
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Beard and you're looking I'm saying it might be our
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: last interview with Dr Smith. He looked back, Can you
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: find his twin brothers? Does the twin brother look like
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: that twin brothers? We really got problems. But you're not
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: doing that. You're stabilizing yourself. And this is why I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: said you can't go away because see now we're battling age.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Because see what happens is people stop dreaming when they
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: hit a certain age. They started fifty Go oh, I
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: can't do that sixth decade. Go see, I know it's
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: seventy eight and eighty. You're still gonna be Dr Ian Smith.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: We might be on book thirty by the end, you
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: might be you. You're gonna be on another council. You're
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: still telling us the direction and the reason I look
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: at you this way, the reason I have to talk
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: to you is this way. And I know you're gonna
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: of a comment about this, and I wanted is that
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: the next battle where you at right now is letting
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: people know age should not define your dream? Am I
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: correct about that? Let me tell you something, uh statement
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I came up with recently that I'm starting to like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and I say it more and more. Even if you
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: live to be a hundred. Life is still short. And
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: by that I mean is that you're never too old, uh,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to dream, to chase dreams, to form new dreams. Think
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: about it. Life is so short you should spend the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: entirety of your life in the pursuit of fun and
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: happiness and your dreams. And it's not just about checking
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: things off of a list, by the way, because when
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I check some awful lists, I add something else because
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: that is what keeps me going. You want to you
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: want to keep going. So I agree with you that
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you know, as we age, we tend to think, well,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: you know it's a different season of your life. Well, yeah,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: life is seasons. But that does not mean, Rashan, that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you stop the pursuit, that you stop the dreaming, that
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you stopped looking up at the stars and thinking and
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: wondering those things I think are the true texture and
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: magic and beauty of our life. Absolutely. Now the book
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: fast Burn, let's listen now week program in the program
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: and broken down into the three parts, we're gonna talk
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: about ignition, into mission and acceleration. Now, before we go there,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: when you say that the power of negative energy balance,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: what exactly does that mean? Yeah, before I explain that.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Let me just say, two people listening, go to my
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Facebook group. We've got thousand people doing fast burned together.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: The Facebook group's name is called fast burn Challenge fast
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Burned Challenge, and if you're not on Facebook, you can
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: do it through my Instagram which is at dr Ian
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Smith spell the doctor out I A and Smith. Let
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: me explain you to the subtitle the power of negative
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: energy balance in life. We want positive energy. That's calm
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: ex spiritual energy. This is different. This is food energy.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: So food. When we say calories in the food, that's
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: measurement of food. Energy in the food. Food is energy.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: And so when you eat more calories than you burn
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: off for sean, you end up having what's called positive
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: energy balance. You have more calories than you burned off.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: The body has to do something with that energy. Energy
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: just doesn't disappear. That's not how it works. What does
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: the body do with that extra energy? It stores it
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: as fat. Fat is the storage form of energy. Okay,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: why do bears uh you know gouge uh sorry, gorge
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: on food before winter comes, before hibernation. They do that
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: because they're eating, eating, eating, eating, and they're getting fatter
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and fatter and fatter the blubber because they're gonna eat
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: that blubber during the winter when their food source is
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: very scarce. Well, same thing with our body. Our body
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: will take the extra energy and put it as fat.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Now that's positive energy balance. What you want to be, however,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: is the negative energy value. Then balance just the opposite,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: so and fast burn. You're still gonna have all your
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: meals and all your snacks, However, the amount of energy
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you get from them will not be enough to meet
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the demands of your body's energy needs. So your body
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: has to find the energy from somewhere. It says, where
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: do I go to get energy? Oh, there I go.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: It goes into the fat stores. It takes the fat,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: it melts it or breaks it down, It converts it
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: into fuel that your body can use. So when you're
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: in a negative energy balance state, that is when you
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: drive into those fat stores and break that fat down.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm fast burned. Not only are people
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: losing seen the seventeen pounds on average and nine weeks,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: but they're noticing six seven eight inches gone around their
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: mid section because the book is putting them into this
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: negative energy balanced state. Now, that's that's great now. But
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you broke the book down into three parts, and we
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: know it's nine weeks, it's four in one week that
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: is the middle week is one, and it's four the
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: closest eye. It's called ignition, intermission, and acceleration. Why are
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: these keywords in the whole process of the nine week
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: diet program. Well, because the idea is imagining the analogy
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: of a car. So the first four weeks are the ignition.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: You're just starting, you're just getting going, and so people
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: slowly make changes. Remember this is not about being a diet.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: This is about teaching you lifestyle changes. So people for
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the first four weeks are just learning how to eat differently,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: how to move differently. So it slowly takes you in
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: there so that it sticks. When you do things too
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: fast and too dramatic, people tend not to hold onto it.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: But I slowly do it for the first four weeks,
• 51:53
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  Speaker 1: I learned that number one, that people are able to
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad. I wait, I'm glad I pushed forward before
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying that that has nothing to do with funny
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• 58:40
  Speaker 1: a comedian. He recently wrapped a recurrent role and they
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• 59:02
  Speaker 1: at ten thirty pm on Eastern Standard Time and Pacific
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: on Showtime. You know his characters. Drew a bold, direct
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: man who's extremely protective of his loved one, in particularly
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: his niece. His demand is coming comflict with his livelihood
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: of both Kevin and my man. Damn them two brothers.
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  Speaker 1: They lead character, they wrote it, they directed, the executive produced.
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  Speaker 1: The whole series are fantastic. Please work with the money.
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  Speaker 1: Make conversation for the first time, the very funny I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say y'all, the very funny and talented Hassan Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: How you knowing? Man? They were introduction, Thank you, ras Sean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad they definitely showed you the episode first. Man,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you know, the bony says, because you know, I wanted
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: to book you too. That's awesome my part, And I
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: went hold on, he got a new show, because you know,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: because I hate coming on there talking about something I
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: don't know nothing about, and you know it would be
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: just a lot of air hot air getting blown around.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I understand. Yeah, and also I respected do theyn't want
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: me coming on the show, just revealing the pilot and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: don't matter nobody watches. Well, let mena tell you all this.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk in like you know, in evergreen term
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: generic terms about the pilot. But the pilot his historical
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: and this boy right here, this ball right here I'm
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: talking to right here is uh. He played. He stayed
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: in the little genre little thug, look thugg, you know,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: but boy he funny. Man talk about man, Let's talk
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: about the series, and then we're gonna go back to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: when I first encountered you on the wire. And it's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: been a journeyman long journey of excellent opportunities. But you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: can get, like it says, stereotyped into certain roles and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: we won't talk about you coming out of that and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: and just being uh, just super funny. I'm hoping this
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: is the character that you're doing. It becomes a hit series,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: so you can really really show people your range. Talk
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: about flash bush misdemeanor and your character Drew, well, she
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: drew Uncle Drew, as you'll get to know, he is
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: the uncle to the little girls Ain't and not so
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: little girl Roxana on the show because she had a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: mean punch boy. So anyway, Uncle Drew brings, I like
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: to say, this balance to an array of this like
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: dysfunctional characters, right because then while he's so overprotective of Zana,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: he's this tough guy that's put this sent to tough god,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: mean god. He here is a fairness in him that
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: that we're gonna explore that, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: And he encounters Kevin again and they start to appreciate
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the fairness that is who who Drew is. But he
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: brings this this balance to this dysfunction and then vary
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: lies his own dysfunction because he's so over protective of Zana,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and he's about his education, as you'll get to discover why. Well,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: you know, the beauty of the characters is written by
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Kevin and Dan. You know it really uh, it's it's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: a it's it's shot a certain way. The comedy is real.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: You know if they say street like what they say
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: the N word, you know they write they go there
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: with the with the with the regular vernacular, you know,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: sagging pains all it's the look of the streets. And
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: it's enjoyable because of the fact that I was not
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: offended by anything I saw. I felt it was some
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: of the things were very relatable. But then the characters.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: You love the characters and you're engaged by the realness
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: of it. Now your characters real. Now let's talk about
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: you know that the character Drew Uncle Drew. Now I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: it was as a scene and it kind of reminded
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: me and training day. You know, it's a training date moment.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Remember when he was about to do homeboard bad in
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: the in the in the bathtub, and then it came
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: around and found out he saved my niece. That was
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: a train You're a good one, Rashawn. So I'm really
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: glad watching because in the moment in time and on
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: the day up, I'm not even understanding or putting the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: correlation with that scene with that that's exactly what that was.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: That was training down. But I guess what, I wasn't
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: mad at it because I was like, we're doing a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: comedy here and it was a face and it wasn't
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: such an a parody where you like you just understood,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: like you know what, that's the same you saw the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: parallel order because because believe me, it wasn't funny. It
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't even close to being funny. And training day, but yeah,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: here it was funny. I was I was followed out
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: my chair. I was going, this boy food, this is ignorant.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Then you then your other boy. All he do is
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: play video game in the right and then the other
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: boy he just opened the door, laid anybody in, you knowebody.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: So so you you got your niece in there, she
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: popping boomerang photos on and you get to the theater.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Bout it? Man? Is that this is just that setting
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: because Kevin is a delivery man. Dane is a school teacher,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: if you want to call it. Because Kevin ain't really
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: a good delivery man and Dad is not really a
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: good school teacher. He ain't neither one of them, right
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: and so and so that's what we have been laughing about.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: This series that premiers on Showtime. It's called Flatbush. Mr
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Meet Him starts my Man. I would say, stars my
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: man my Son Johnson, because he's a pivovogual character, because
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: he's a community character. He's in the neighborhood. He's that
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: guy that you know if he walks by you, by you,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: you know, you probably clutch your bag, if you if
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: you goes by your car door, you're probably push press
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: lock on your door. You know you're going this door.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: You might see him and went back back out the door,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: you know. But all those things because you got that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: look man. But in the end, you have a heart.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: So when you get the main thing, he has a heart.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Like I said, there's a level of fann this that
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: comes with Uncle Drew. You what you see is what
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: you get. You know, he wears hard on his sleeve.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna get no b as. You ain't gonna
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: sugar coat and water nothing down for you. And that's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: what you could appreciate. And that's what you see. The
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: characters Dan and Kevin, they start to appreciate that. I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: think about Drew more than anything because everything and everywhere
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: else and so if he had wish washy and they're surroundings,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: they're so uncertain that these uncertain characters that they could
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: appreciate that Drew is. So, you know, just add of me. Well,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I think I think let's let's just be real about
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: that character, because good writing has a way of telling
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: a person's role, and your role is about rules. You know.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: It's like we all have rules. You know, Like I said, somebody,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: the speeding of it might be thirty five miles now
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: you drive forward it, but it's thirty five miles now,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: and that's you. You know what I'm saying, if you
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: make a mistake, you hold people accountable for that mistake
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: based on Drew Uncle Drew's rules. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: If you respect the rules, you're gonna walk out of
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: the house a lot. Respect the rule. You might walk
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: out of the house he kind of alive, but you're
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: gonna remember you broke that rule right exactly. There you go.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a learning lesson and that's what I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: love about it. So but then again, we talked a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: little bit off air before we got on there, because
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: you can stereotype, you know, people, people see your photo.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: He's gonna play a thug. Oh, he gonna play a criminal,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: or he could play this and you know, and I
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: first fell in love with your acting man way back
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: on the Wire, which was to the phenomenal when you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: look at all the people, man, they were casting that serious.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Oh y'all working, Oh y'all doing big things. Man, through
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: the grace of God. That's right though, you know what
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so you said, why with that serious,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: so brilliant the cast? You Now you get to understand
• 1:06:24
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• 1:06:26
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• 1:06:31
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• 1:06:34
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• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: was gonna be a hind, we'd be talking about it
• 1:06:39
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• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: if they said that they knew that. We didn't know.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean that it was the writing
• 1:06:50
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• 1:06:54
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• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: was such a great show. Absolutely, they're your character with
• 1:07:00
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• 1:07:05
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• 1:07:07
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• 1:07:13
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• 1:07:16
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• 1:07:19
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• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: first really consistent acting role, you know, like sure, yes,
• 1:07:26
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• 1:07:29
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• 1:07:31
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• 1:07:34
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• 1:07:40
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• 1:07:42
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• 1:07:45
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  Speaker 1: the time, young young up and comers. I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 1: that word up in conners because we can turn any
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  Speaker 1: streaming network, any movie, any network television show, and one
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  Speaker 1: of you guys are on it what I'm saying, and
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  Speaker 1: some of them two or three y'all in the same series. Yeah,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: let's not play with you. I mean, I don't just
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  Speaker 1: popped up in a few shows or you know, movies
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  Speaker 1: with my fellow cast meet from the show. Yeah, we
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: don't go on skate now. So so with that being said,
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  Speaker 1: what were your thoughts man when you when you when
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: you were brought on the Wire? Was it just a
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  Speaker 1: paycheck or was it just hey man? Finally and finally
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  Speaker 1: seeing my craft being appreciated, my skills being appreciated to
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  Speaker 1: talk to us about that. I think it was a
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: mixture of both, but overall and ultimately it was my
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  Speaker 1: my my craft being appreciated because I remember audition and right,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: auditioning for the Wire was pre notin eleven. Then we
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: shot potion on the Levin. So you gotta understand that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: a lot goes on in between the time that it
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  Speaker 1: was first very introduced to me and then it came
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  Speaker 1: into reality, right because the world stopped. The world stopped
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: in the between that time and then resumed again, and
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: I had to come back with that energy. So when
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I got the call back, I'm like, why, I almost
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: didn't even remember what it was, but Sham like, oh
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  Speaker 1: that show, Okay, let's go. I got got back you focused.
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  Speaker 1: I went out there Alexa Photos Office, our audition. I
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: remember now in the middle of the audition, I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: my thing right, and the creator it was David Simon
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: in there, and then it was Clauk Johnson, who was
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: one of the director for the pilot and a few
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: of the first season episodes, you know from Comic Side,
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  Speaker 1: Life on the Street, Cluk Johnson, O g pick up
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  Speaker 1: the Clark john One of them leaned over to the
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  Speaker 1: other one in the audition, Rashawn, and said, we bay.
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  Speaker 1: So that's when that was my first inclination of something
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  Speaker 1: like tangible, because I'm auditioning for the edgel over by
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  Speaker 1: the way, right, So I don't know if anybody could
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  Speaker 1: even imagine that, because Larry Gilliat did such a phenomenal job.
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  Speaker 1: When that that, who could imagine me playing the edge
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: lower him doing you know what I'm saying. So when
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: they said that, I kind of lost my beat for
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: a minute, but then I got back on. I finished up,
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  Speaker 1: but that lingered on with me for some reason until
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I got that call from my agent that I booked it,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: like who is this we make Chacal And then even
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: then I still didn't know because they said, oh, we
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: made here. He'll be around for two or three episodes
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: and you already know the rent. You know, let's let's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: talk about you man, because really, you know, bringing on
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: the show man because a lot of times, you know, uh,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: you do interviews, they don't give a chance to tell
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: your story, get to tell the journey. And this is
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: about my many conversations about that journey because so many
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: people need to hear that. You know, like I said,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: you took something that was short and then you turned
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: it into a career. And that's really what's happening because
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: you you know, it's like it's like a good Like
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: let's gonna say that Chicago Bulls. If you made the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls, guess when you're a champion, all right, you
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: we look at it back now, we didn't really guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know the last dance shoulders the greatness of the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls run. Now when we look back at the y,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: you we go, wow, look at all those people who
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  Speaker 1: came out of the wire. So really, when you look
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  Speaker 1: at her, sorry, you were being pushed by the best
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: every day. Talk to us about that's a that's a
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: that that's surrounding. Talk about that the rehearsals, talk about
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: the you know, being pushed and being mentored as well
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: to be your best during that time. I mean, Shaan,
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  Speaker 1: one of the greatest experiences of my life. We're talked
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: about when du piss Son, your son Lance Reddy, Claude Peters.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it keeps going with Joe John Done, Maan uh,
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  Speaker 1: Andre boy, your Michael K. Williams. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's just it goes down the rabbit hole
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: so crazy. And then whether you knew who those people
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: were or not, by the end of the day's rat
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: you knew who they was. You feel what I'm saying
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: to Michael, Kay, well, come on now, if you didn't know,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: now you know. And so that's when I knew I
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: was being brought up with the best. And I said, oh, okay,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: this is this is turning into something. Now I can
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: see where this is really going. Now I have a
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: career in n Yeah, that uncertainty with you know, being rejected.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm in a line of work where I
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: get rejected or a living. People don't really understand what
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: that feel like. You go home after these auditions and
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: you're not the best man, right right, right, and then
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: because you know that's that's that's that's what it really is,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: because rejection is so high in Hollywood. You know, this
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: is just imagine just going on auditions, auditions, auditions, just
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: didn't gonna job interviews, job interview, job interviews, and then
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: they're just telling you you're not the one based on
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: you and you're not the one, and you know you are.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: But then you gotta eat that. You have to accept that,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: dig down, regroup, re van, and say I'm gonna come
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  Speaker 1: out and do better. Like listen, for instance, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you this is what happened for me. This is
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: how I learned the code with this rejection. I figured
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: it like this, the more auditions you're going on, the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: better your chances you're booking something. Right, So as long
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: as you're going on auditions, you're working, you're shopping in
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: your blade, you're getting better, trust me, right, and then
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: and then it's supposed to be fun. But then when
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: you don't get the job, I mean, you know, there's
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: no gratification and you're like, what's so fun about that?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: But what this is what I did for myself. I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: built the system up that for every ten auditions, I'm
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: gonna get one, that one that temper sent ratio out
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: of ten, I'm gonna get one. I was able to
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: live and come to grips and terms with that. And
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: it was happening every eight, every six, and then lower
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: and lower and lower. Every other audition I book a roll.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: And then that's when you start to you elevate in
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: your mind, and then you start to believe in yourself
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: because it's a relief system you got. You have to
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: have to keep going. Wow. So how did you get
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: into acting? Let's get that outfre let's hear the fans
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: here about that. How did how did her Son Johnson
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: get into actor? Oh Man? All praise due to Spike Lee,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Lord and save your spight Lee. He had an open
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: call for a movie called Clockers, and a girl at
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  Speaker 1: school dared me to go to the open audition because
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I was just this like boisterous young boy. I played ball.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: I played football. I thought I was gonna be a
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: ball up and I was pretty smart, you know. I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: was in the academic classes like the student athlete whatnot.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: And everybody tried to get me to be more proactive
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: with the academic stuff, you know, the glee club, the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: African Culture Club, the math club. I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: do it. I just wanted to play ball, and you
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  Speaker 1: know that's it. So she did me because I always
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: said I wanted to be on television. Oh well, why
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: don't you go to this Spike Lee ordition, Mr, I
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: want to be on TV? And dared me in front
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: of like the whole lunch room. Right, I'm holding court
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: at lunch doing what I do, and she dared me
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: in front. So I did one of those. I right,
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  Speaker 1: who's going with me? And then everybody did one of these?
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  Speaker 1: He and I went. It was like a dare I went.
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  Speaker 1: I got up that Saturday. It was poured down rain
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  Speaker 1: and it was in Hall and at the school he
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  Speaker 1: had at a public school in Hall, and I went
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  Speaker 1: up theory Sean and the rest is history. I went
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  Speaker 1: to one audition, turning the seven callbacks, and I got
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  Speaker 1: a principal role in Spike Lee film thirty million dollar
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Budget out the Gate, Love it, Love it now. Now
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: we're making the transition top five. You know that that
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I think Top five was the first time I saw
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: you in funny scenario, you know what I'm saying, But
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: you yeah, I'll say that was the first. It might
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: be something we're missing before that, but let's just say that,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: you know, this is Rashawn's career path for HASA. You
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm tracking you, tracking you know.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: So top five, Top five was was the one for me.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Just started looking at you because because I always, like
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I've been fortunate in Hollywood, the cast a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, to see African American talent
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: get pigeonhole. And when I saw you in Top five,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: but you were still being yourself but the but to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: spin on your words funny, I said, this guy is funny.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: So talk about that experience, and then we're gonna go
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: to the Last o G with Tracy and Tiffany Hatters,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: where you really started showing your comedy chops right and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: and and and Top five birth met even being able
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: to have an opportunity and a shot to get on
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Last o G with Tracy Activity, which was a blessing
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: as well. But it all started with you know, me
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: telling my uh my manager, Adam Adam Robinson like, you know,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I gotta get out of this this pigeonhole that seemingly
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: a pigeon hole, it's not quite one. Because Adam used
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: to always say, how's tign Come on? Now, if you
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: do something good, that's what they call you for your
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: great at what you do. That's not your fault. You
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: can't beat yourself down about that. So if it's time
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: to be the thug and this, you know, depending on
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: what's going on and what the criteria is, then go
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: out and be the best damn thug you can be.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong with it. And then um, I said,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: you all right, until we get to that bridge and
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: we could cross that bridge into the light of heart
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: and funny stuff, that's what we're gonna do. So what
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: happens is when Top five comes along, it's this character
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: that's kind of just played meant to play, be played
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: straight and and and in the world of all these
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: comedians and funny people, naturally funny people, because you know,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: when Jay Farrell talk, he's just funny. But Sherry Sfard talk,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: she's just funny. When Trades we talk, that just funny.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: You know, Chris, when they talk, they're just funny. The
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: tonality that Dick Chance delivery is just funny. So they
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: ain't gotta do much because they're established, you know that.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: But then here I go. So I'm not gonna go
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: above and beyond either my best My best bet is
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: to stand my lane and go straight. And that's what
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: I did because I was fortunate enough to get I
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: was privy to some info and their casting process that's
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: at hospital. Will say no names, but it was a
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: couple of dudes came through here, a few heavy heaters.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: It wasn't giving it up like you was doing it.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna leave it at that right, right, right,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: And it was understood. Don't got to be explained, right absolutely,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: And that's what we're talking about. Over tell you a
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: couple of things about your manager, your managers, right, and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: you were right, because if you don't fight for change, Hussan,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: then people will settle for what you get. And by fighting,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: you know, let's talking what we're talking to. Anybody who's
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: watching the show and listen to the show. Your brand,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: because you have a brand and you fought for you know,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not satisfied. It's like you know, it's like just
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: because you have a nice house, why can't you ask
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: for a bigger house, a better car, or more groceries
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: in the refrigerator. People like, well you got food in refrigerator.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: I want more. And that's how I want more, right,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not content? And and so that push enabled this
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: conversation we're having right now because when you got on
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: to the last O g and like I said, man,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: you know I really went he funny man. But I'm
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: gonna just tell you about your funny Hussan. You know,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: like you said, you may you know Sherried Shepherd, Tracy Ferrell,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, of course Chris Rock. They have built a legacy.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: There's like I always tell people, stand up comedy just
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: like math. If you know what too plus two equals four,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: then you know how to get there. Your style of
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: comedy is that you're just natural, but you don't even
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: understand you funny. And I think that's you know what
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's the gift because all those people have
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: walked on stage in front of hundreds of thousands of
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: people and made them lad. And so you are just
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: one of those guys who just naturally funny. If you
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: get around your family, you crack them up. I don't
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: give it you your family go yico you. But see
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: what a comedian has done. He's taking his funny from
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: in front of his family to strangers. And so because
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: you've not done that, it questions your ability for Brother.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: In the last o g that stepped you up, and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: then you went back to the life for life on ABC.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Nice check wasn't supposed to be funny. You're supposed to
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: be who you supposed to be incarcerated. Then in in
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: your mind, you set these templates, templates or being able
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: to do something more than just be a stereotypical black thug.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: The Flatbush Mrmeanor comes along. Tell us about that whole process.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: I know we talked about it earlier, but I gotta
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: close the show because brother, I can't. I can't wait
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: to epio. So this is what it is. The Sean This,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: like you said earlier, this is the most tangible opportunity
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: to really show my range because then you're gonna see
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about the first episode you got
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: eight nine more to you got eight nine more and
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: they let me go. Man, I'm telling you Kevin and
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Dan Man that the two the greatest guys around right
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: now that they are soon to leave a deep footprint
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: in this game. I'm telling you what this one and
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: it's all there for you. And they and they really
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: let me go. They just let me go like how
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: they tell a box and let your hands go right right, right,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: right right. Yeah, that's the that's the best analyty with
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: this character I could come up with. You guys are
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be in for it's a roller co There's so
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: much emotion because you see here you talking about this,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: this comedic stuff, this funny stuff. But then you're gonna
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: be so emotional, you're gonna be stressed out a little bit,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: right well, you know the thing about it, but in
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: a in a good way. Because Kevin's life is stressed.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Its stressed because and he's relatable. Here's a guy that
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: their lives are not moving forward, y'all. I'm gonna be
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: honest with Their lives are in a stand still. They
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: got jobs that don't have career opportunities. They don't even
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: see the career in the opportunity. All they are trying
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: to do is get by. And I think we know
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who are just trying to get by.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: That's why their characters are relatable. But what happens is
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: when they try to move ahead and they start making mistakes,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: and that's when they wrote the mistakes start to come in.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: That makes you so humanizes everything because the way and
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: I I can say this, the way Kevin encounters Uncle
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Drew as a delivery and when he comes into his place,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: he makes a mistake, the consequences of that mistake drives
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: the first episode and the long term relationship. Am I right? Yes,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: it does that one mistake And you know, I always say,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Rashaan in real life, I always tell people you can't
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: be upset about what is and what's not at the
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: moment in time, because what you have to realize is
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: every decision you made from out the wound to this day,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: right now and in may, is that every direct decision
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: led you the way you are wherever you're currently happy, sad,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: whatever the case says, right, et cetera. Every decision you
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: may lead you up to right now. And guess what
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: is a beautiful right now? He's I'm telling man. The
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: blessing in this interview, man was that I'm always been
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: a fan of Hussal. I've always been a fan. And
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: then and then going to no time to say, I
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: want to interview up Bar, but I gotta see the pilot.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: I saw the pilot, man, I am recommended. I'm mad
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: because it's several weeks away before it premieres, so no listen.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: But you made my whole month the rest of my
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: year is Sean, because you know, we we don't know
• 1:23:17
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me well great, great for coming
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  Speaker 1: was like, boy, I'm so glad I'm not in the game. Boy.
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  Speaker 1: You know you couldn't you know. You know, if you
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  Speaker 1: kiss somebody, you gonna get COVID. Relationships are like covid,
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  Speaker 1: these relationships swapping right fat leftwipe covid leftwipe covid right.
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  Speaker 1: It was just, uh, it was just really crazy. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I almost there's a little bit of um
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  Speaker 1: two point three after having built like credibility in the
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  Speaker 1: experience and doing a relationship radio show where it gave
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  Speaker 1: of business. At the same time we're understanding how to
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  Speaker 1: be like in front of the camera. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: articulation is the key. You know what you can't do.
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying spicy. You can't mess around looking like
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Just this money can say something, you know.
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  Speaker 1: the wrong idea about you because you are serious professional. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great question. So I love the fact that um,
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  Speaker 1: spicy has become this word that we're like, oh, what
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  Speaker 1: I love being able to have an opportunity to describe,
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  Speaker 1: So I've always embraced it. Um. I coined the name
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  Speaker 1: business and my company and my expertise the spicy life.
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  Speaker 1: So when I coined the name spicy Matty, it was because,
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  Speaker 1: You know, they always think it's because I'm this, you know, fiery,
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  Speaker 1: you know, spicyse um, you know black in Mexican Latina,
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  Speaker 1: and so, uh, I get an opportunity to explain to them, no,
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  Speaker 1: they're they sometimes forget Mary, but they never forget spicy.
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• 1:33:46
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  Speaker 1: know that not everybody's gonna believe you, but that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: If you believe you, you're gonna push that message anyways.
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  Speaker 1: absolutely And so now you're the founder of the Spicy life. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: again carrying a brand spicy. Learning from a standpoint. Using
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: the word that's very popularly used for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different describes a lot of different things, but in this case,
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  Speaker 1: purpose mate. Now what is the purpose? Mate? So I
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  Speaker 1: love the purpose made term right because it makes you wonder.
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  Speaker 1: It's not something that we hear often. Most people think
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  Speaker 1: of soul mate. They've gotten familiar with that word, and
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  Speaker 1: that is when you have deep affection and romantic feelings
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  Speaker 1: for somewhat amazing chemistry I speak to purpose mate. What
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about is having chemistry and compatibility. So you
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  Speaker 1: need both of those elements. You can't just have the
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  Speaker 1: fire and desire. You also have to have the compat
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  Speaker 1: compatibility element. And then in addition to that, you have
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  Speaker 1: to be someone who understands and knows your purpose in
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: life and then wants to be with someone who understands
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  Speaker 1: their purpose. And then you guys merge two purposes together
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: to help one another form or build your empire the
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: mission that you were put on here to do. You're
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: very clear on that, and you understand your role in
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: that person's life, and you're there to support them, uplift them,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: use their talents and gifts on another level, and help
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: lift them up. So your purpose mate is way bigger
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: than just like, oh, you know he's fine, I love him. Know.
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  Speaker 1: Your purpose mate is like, how do I get you
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  Speaker 1: to where God intended for you to be? And it's
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: by any means necessary, no matter what comes against us
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  Speaker 1: to try to destroy us. I'm pushing you. I love
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  Speaker 1: who are you fine? Which is very true. Now that's
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: why I like what you just said. First of all,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: soul mate really has not been working in the marriage
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  Speaker 1: world because of the marriage is in the divorce. Now
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: when you ask about what your soul mate, they really
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: can't explain to what that is a soul mate. Now,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: when you went purpose mate, you actually had a point
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: of view. They had credibility. I understood it, and I
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: brought value. So to me, this whole purpose made. If
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  Speaker 1: you find a purpose made, the percentages of successful marriages
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  Speaker 1: may go up. Because soul mate is not working. I'm
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: just sorry it's not working and falling. It's failed because
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: can nobody explained what the soul mate is. I can't
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: tell you. I've never used the word soul mate, but
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: purpose made I could use because it has you know,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: It's like anything you do in life, like a good job,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: you have to know it's a contract. If you pretending
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: to forget that, marriage is a contract, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: you have the right to break it if it's not
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  Speaker 1: working for you. Now in this situation, your purpose made
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  Speaker 1: that is turned to that person's purpose, that person's purpose
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  Speaker 1: of what they want to do with their lives, and
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  Speaker 1: that never comes up and being a soul mate. I
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  Speaker 1: really like that concept that you really have honed on
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  Speaker 1: to because it makes me, made me think, It made
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  Speaker 1: me get a clear understanding of Okay, when I look
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  Speaker 1: from somebody who's educated, you can mary with somebody because
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  Speaker 1: he or he made me laugh. I'm gonna tell you
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  Speaker 1: right now, that's gonna be a short relationship. It might
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  Speaker 1: you lead the marriage and the sex canna get old,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: he and want the sex get old, you won't be
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: laughing as much. But if you're married based on a plan,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: and that's what purpose made is it's a plan. Correct
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: talk to me. I think I'm into this spicy life.
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  Speaker 1: Girl told you haven't said all the mighty to hire
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying, but you you're leading me
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  Speaker 1: down the right path because, like I said, I did
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  Speaker 1: the book act like a lady to think like a
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: man with Steve Harder. The reason that book was so successful,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: one of the things was the naty day the naty
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: day period that that you had in there, because it
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: was like, if a job could put your approbation for
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: ninety days, why can't you put your relationship on probation
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: for ninety days? And so this is the same thing.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: It was tied to making the decision not so much
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: on emotion, but is this the right person for you?
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  Speaker 1: And when I hear the word soul mate, and we've
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: all heard that, and we all used I've used that
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: in some form. I don't know what that means, but
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: I knew with naty day probation mant does in job
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  Speaker 1: and in a relationship. Also know what purpose made me.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Once you explain to me, and once you explain it
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: to any of your clients, I'm sure they go, Wow,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: I never thought like that. M hm. You're absolutely hidden
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  Speaker 1: on the money. And the thing is is one thing
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  Speaker 1: that I do love about act like the lady, things
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: like a man, you know, and I give you crazy
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: insane props um for everything that you did for publishing
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: that book and getting it out there. UM is that
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: it speaks to um strategy, which I speak to as well.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Right what you're saying right now is that we have
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: to operate less in emotion and how someone makes us
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: feel and more in logic, which is totally what I'm
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: in support of. I once you have books, and once
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: you have the chemistry and compatibility, but what does that
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: look like? How do we create a strategic action plan
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: or what your relationship goal is? And that's what I
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: get to the root of because a lot of people
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: are just out here floating around trying to figure it out.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: And one thing that I do support in act like
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: the lady thinks like a man as well? Is that
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: ninety day rule? Now? Can most people follow it when
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: they come into my program? That's a whole. That's a whole,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: another whole, another topic. Right, they require a lot of
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: strength when it comes to being abstinent for those ninety days.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: But I fully support that, actually implement that in my
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: spicy program because I need people to have clarity of thoughts.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: I don't want them emotionally attached to someone who hasn't
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: earned all of the things that need to show up
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: when it comes to their core values, their deal breakers, consistency,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: and when we speak to your purpose mate, your purpose
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: mate has to show the compatibility element before we give
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: our bodies to them. And what I mean by compatibility
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: is I'm talking amazing communication that's in alignment with your
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: definition of communication. I'm talking shared activities and interests, and
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about being at the same place and your
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: guys time and intention of what you guys want from
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: the relationship. Right, Can I merge my life with this
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: person and are we at the same place in our
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: lives in knowing what our purpose is and what's the
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: game plans to fulfilling that So I'm huge on strategy
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: and it's something that I've created my whole method around.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: When it comes to manifesting what you truly want, I'm
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: not just about words and emotions. I'm about about yes, manifestation.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: But we do that through behavioral changes and actions. What
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: does this game plan look like? Well? It really interesting.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: So when one because you know a lot of the
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: big companies out there making money off matchmaking, and then
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: you just you know, you just icy body. Okay, So
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: how do need to be with the big ballers out there?
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: They got the million dollar commercial brands, you know, they
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: on social media, they do geo fencing and couples, you know,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: and it's credibility. How how did you manage to, you know,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: start defining your lane and being on major talk shows
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: and being an advice person? How did that happen? I
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: think a part of my success has been driven not
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: just from the branding component of understanding what my brand is,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: but also, and I'll tell this to my datas to
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: what's your product differentiator? Right? What makes you different or
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: sets you apart from what else is on the market.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: And so when we speak in business terms, there's tons
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: of other matchmaking companies. There's tons of competitors completely understand that,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: but what they're not doing is giving you the personal
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: relationship coaching that comes with the matchmaking. I can introduce
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: you to a hundred people, but if I don't know
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: how to raise your vibration, if I don't know your strengths,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: your weaknesses, opportunities and threats um which is what I
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: do for my clients a squat analysis, right, really understanding
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: their character, what their beliefs are. You know what's there,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: what's holding them back, what's their limiting beliefs, Really understanding
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: who they are as a person, and developing that personal tension.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: How am I going to set you up with your
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: purposemate when we haven't even gotten to the root of
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: you know who you are, some of your childhood traumas.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of coaching that comes with my
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: program and it addition to the weekly coaching, you also
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: get an image consultant. I redo your look. You also
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: get a professional astrologists as someone who's telling me what
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: are the best zodiac signs are for you. I also
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: have a marriage and damp family therapists on staff. And
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: then I also redo your online dating profile. So everything
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: that we're doing is transformational. And we even have of
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: a fitness coach should we need to like help you
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: from a health standpoint. So it's full, full encompassing and
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: very hands on, whereas other matchmaking companies are just setting
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: you up and they're like, good luck, now, pay my
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: tin k, pay my twenty k, and they're not really
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: working on who you are as a person and getting
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: to the root of relationship development. And I think that's
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: what you know, my main emphasis is is that interpersonal
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: development and how do I help you become the best
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: version of yourself so that you can reach relationship actualization. Uh,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: hopefully you've trade Bok purpose made have you you're just
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: giving you're giving, You're giving me a bar right there,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: or work on it right now. I tell you, I'm
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: telling you things that have to trademark in addition to
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: it's a spicy life, which you already have and spicy moody.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: But I have five things in the in the queue
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: right now, right because I know I'm just sitting there.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: They're just looking at you because you know you got it,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: you know, And I like a talent, like a talent
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: all the time coming for you. When I get my book.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: I need your help. I've developed money making conversation as
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: a voice. You know, a lot of people wanted me
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: to mentor them and also give them advice where I
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: can do that in interviews and also if you listen
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: to the interviews that I do with talented people like you,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: maybe you can take those little moments of enthusiasm or
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: information because it's tied to both, because successful people are
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: driven by their hard work also by their excitement, like
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: you're excited about what you do. I don't know anybody
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: who who makes a lot of money and unhappy they're
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: gonna change the game. You know, I'm not unhappy or
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: anything I do. I wake up happy. That gets you
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: out of bed, That gets me out the front door,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: and it also causes me to return home so I
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: can rest up and do to get the next day. Now, spicy,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: you know it said yes. It's important in the learning
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: of say yes now in relationships. You've always heard the
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: word now to say no now, and you is learning
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: how to say yes because that's the last of the
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: terms with spices. S P I C Y Y stands
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: for yes, So talk about that. So the reason why
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: yes it's so important is um exactly for what you said, right,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: society and what's going on culturally right now is that
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: the you know, rate of marriage for millennial age groups
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: is flowing down as far as like the time that
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: we're choosing to get married in our lives. Right, So
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: there's all of this UM fear based around why we
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: need to wait, why we need to be making slower decisions,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: because you know, we saw what our parents did and
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: our parents parents, and because the divorce rate is so high,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: we're now dating from a place of fear. And so
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: when you date from a place of fear, that's a
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: scarcity my mindset, You're going to be limited in what
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: you believe your options are. You're gonna be limited and
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: what you believe that you can attract. So when I
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: hear limiting beliefs, I have to help you with raising
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: your vibration and having not a scarcity mindset but an
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: abundance mindset. When we have an abundance mindset, it means
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: that we don't have to be afraid of the unknown.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: It means that we can take risks and step into
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: them with strategy. Right, Because I believe in risk, but
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: I believe in calculating risks. So when you're dating, you're
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: going through the process, or even when you're in partnership
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: really evaluating you know, the choices that you're making, researching
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: you know why you want this relationship and what's that
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: looks like, but also what's holding you back, what's stopping
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: you from being in a healthy, loving relationship, and when
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: it comes to partnership, really understanding that, yes, you want
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: those bubble going warm butterfly failings, but you really want
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: the person who's going to submit. And when I say submit,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the person who says yes to what's
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: healthiest for the relationship. I'm not talking about, you know,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: bending down on one knee or doing whatever your partner says.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: When I talk about submission, I'm saying about what am
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: I willing to sacrifice in this relationship to have what
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: I want? Because you're not going to get percent of
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: the person, right, I definitely believe in the So what
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: are you willing to sacrifice about you? Your personality that's
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: not serving you, that's holding you back? And then what
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: are you willing to sacrifice from a behavioral standpoint and
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: making sure that your partner's love language is fed and
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: oftentimes we want to you know, I want to put
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: these boundaries up. I want to put these walls up.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: And we're so guarded because we're afraid to love. So
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: my whole emphasis around yes is like, Okay, let's push
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: past these boundaries and if we believe that we can
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: actually have what we want, what are we afraid of?
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: We just have to step into our future self and
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: go get it. Wow. Communication, Hey, it's heavy, right, degree
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: in communication? Communicate because you girl, I can talk that now.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: I know. I gotta I at least gott to bring
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: this up. You know, Vice President Kamala Harris was named.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: They liked it, and so is she getting ready? You know?
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  Speaker 1: And she she was. She's a member of STY. I
• 1:49:11
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• 1:49:14
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• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: A k R A k sority. Absolutely, I think that
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: it's very well known that, right, we pride ourselves on
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: you know, high morals and ethical standards, and so being
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: able to see you know, us represented now um not
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: just in the White House, also making history and also
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: being you know, connected to my sorority of Alpha Cup
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: of Alpha. I have so much pride in the fact that, like,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: we did it right. And when I say we did
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: it as as a community um as you know, Greek
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: organizations all around. She represents all of us. I don't
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: want to you know, just exclude. She just happens to
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  Speaker 1: be you know, a a k A. The first and finest.
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  Speaker 1: But I take I take pride on behalf of all
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: of my brothers and sisters. When you know, we see
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: her up there, you know, on the podium or next
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: to the president, knowing understanding the responsibility that she has,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: and knowing because her core values and what she stands
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: for and what she believes in, that she's going to
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: make sure that she takes care of us and represents us,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: um you know, to the best of her ability. So
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: there's you know, there was that moment when I cried,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: uh when she got elected, but definitely, you know, was
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: was huge and excited when I even first heard that
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: she was on the ballot, and then to see her
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: make history on multiple things, on multiple levels, even you know,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: me being biracial, seeing a biracial woman up there, like,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: there's so many things that I connect with her on
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: that I'm You're gonna get the emotional right now. But
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: but just the joy in my heart right, my spirit
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: was uplifted and super excited for my future offspring to
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: be able to see her in there, you know, and
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: and what she represents. It means a lot to me
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: and to my community. Well you know you and the
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: money making money making conversation is business money and that is.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: But also you know, a weekly uh clubhouse you know,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: so I don't really learn you know, you know, you're
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: willing to have people for free to talk about that
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: and we're wrapping up. Yeah, so I love um. I
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: love clubhouse because it gives me an opportunity to give
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: relationship advice weekly on Sundays, I usually hold a forum
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: where I'm giving relationship coaching and giving spicy tips out there.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: It's not as full hands on as of course my
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: program or my E course that I just rolled out,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: which is um six weeks that I'm doing giving the
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: spicy relationship coaching and helping people attract their purpose mate,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: but it does provide an opportunity for these people to
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: get a taste to fill up their cup, kind of
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: like Sunday Church. When I do my clubhouse events, it
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: gives people an opportunity to ask me questions and just
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: get some clarity around what they may be experiencing. And
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: then I also provide if they need to feel their
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: love cup up even more so that they have an
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: abundant supporting to others. Also provide my Spicy Life podcast
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: where I'm also having guests come on and speaking to
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: relationships on there as well, but getting to bounce off
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: of other relationship experts, and each week I bring in
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: someone different. So I'll do the same thing with the
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: podcast as I do with the Clubhouse, where all sometimes
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: bring different people on that I get to interview and
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: give relationship advice out she's the magnetic matchmaker and relationship
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  Speaker 1: experts and spicy body almighty because I'm from Houston, Texas.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: That's how we do with that text, Max, you know.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: But again, I want to thank you for coming on
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: the show. Also for attending to HBCU spellment. That's always
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: great to acknowledge a k A cute dog. Okay over here,
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  Speaker 1: frand okay for doing my thing too. You know what
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, But just stop, just stop, just stop again.
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  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on money making,
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  Speaker 1: coming to your fantastic again keeping in your your your book,
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  Speaker 1: keeping your thought process. Anytime you want to want to
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  Speaker 1: But let me put in my money on my news left. Okay,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: so we can get you out there. Because I also
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: have a platform, HBCU Awards, I want to recognize you
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: for being for attending to HBCU and also because those
• 1:53:19
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• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: you took time to talk to me about your brand.
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  Speaker 1: and the AD Council