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- 2:06Speaker 1: gra graduate of Hampton University. He obtained his bachelor's degree
- 2:11Speaker 1: in two thousand four, master's degree in two thousand five,
- 2:14Speaker 1: followed by his PhD. He's a doctor, y'all. He has
- 2:17Speaker 1: dedicated his professional career to education, specializing in serving schools
- 2:21Speaker 1: and organizations that serve urban and culturally diverse communities. Teach, hustle,
- 2:27Speaker 1: inspire offers driven and passionate educators a transformatal a transformational
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- 2:36Speaker 1: Please work for the money made conversation for the very
- 2:38Speaker 1: first time, Dr Sean Woodley, thank you so so much
- 2:44Speaker 1: for having me. I'm excited to be here. I'm I
- 2:46Speaker 1: tell you that everything right though, you know, you know,
- 2:50Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I brought you, brought you the forefront,
- 2:52Speaker 1: right doctor. That's all I'm saying. Man, you are very
- 2:56Speaker 1: nicely now, appreciate that. Thank you, sir. What what where
- 3:00Speaker 1: are yet right now in this in this in this
- 3:02Speaker 1: country of America? Where yet right now? Sir? I'm not
- 3:05Speaker 1: too far from you here in Atlanta? Okay? Great? Great? Um.
- 3:08Speaker 1: You know education, I know I come from Houston, Texas,
- 3:12Speaker 1: born in fifth ward. Uh my degrees in the mathematics
- 3:15Speaker 1: and my minor and sociology, so I know the important
- 3:18Speaker 1: of continued education. I always tell people who always tell
- 3:22Speaker 1: young people just go to college and just just see
- 3:25Speaker 1: what college has to offer to you. How it changed
- 3:28Speaker 1: my life. Education changed my life. I would not be
- 3:31Speaker 1: talking to you because when I came out of high school, Sean,
- 3:34Speaker 1: I wanted to be a forklift driver and got a
- 3:36Speaker 1: job for forklift driver. That was my dream because that
- 3:39Speaker 1: was those were my mentors. My mentors were guys who
- 3:42Speaker 1: don't load the trucks. From our fifteen sixty years old
- 3:44Speaker 1: I saw it. I went, wow, this is cool, and
- 3:46Speaker 1: I stayed in my mind. Despite having my best friend
- 3:50Speaker 1: she graduated. She with the rights and graduated. My other
- 3:52Speaker 1: best friends she went to Purdue and graduate. So it
- 3:54Speaker 1: wasn't like I was. I was surrounded by a bunch
- 3:56Speaker 1: of dummies. My whole little core was smart and I
- 3:59Speaker 1: was smart too. But I wanted to take the easy
- 4:02Speaker 1: way out, a comfortable way out. I felt, you know,
- 4:05Speaker 1: get to that get to that finish line real quick.
- 4:08Speaker 1: But but what But that wasn't the right finish line
- 4:10Speaker 1: for me. So when we talking about education, that's your passion,
- 4:14Speaker 1: I just wanted to tee it up for the type
- 4:16Speaker 1: of conversation I'm gonna have with you, and we're gonna
- 4:18Speaker 1: go into a lot of things and these UH in
- 4:20Speaker 1: this call we have today. But I want to let
- 4:22Speaker 1: you know the guy you're talking to was the guy
- 4:24Speaker 1: who who was was was not there. I was not that,
- 4:27Speaker 1: I was not motivated to pursue a four year opportunity
- 4:31Speaker 1: in academics and and and it changed my life. So
- 4:35Speaker 1: talk to us about UH education and from your standpoint,
- 4:40Speaker 1: I firmly believe that education and is just really it's
- 4:46Speaker 1: a key that can unlock so many doors in so
- 4:50Speaker 1: many different directions. One of the limiting things that I'm
- 4:53Speaker 1: working very very hard for, particularly in urban and culturally
- 4:56Speaker 1: diverse schools, as you mentioned, is exposure. We need to
- 5:00Speaker 1: be sure that we the bright young scholars in these
- 5:05Speaker 1: four walls, in the four walls of these classrooms across
- 5:08Speaker 1: this country are being exposed so that they have something
- 5:11Speaker 1: to shoot for, and education can do that. What are
- 5:15Speaker 1: we exposing them to, what are we allowing them to see?
- 5:18Speaker 1: And more importantly, what are we allowing them to see
- 5:21Speaker 1: and how they think into that as it can be
- 5:24Speaker 1: a contributing member to society. What are we showing them,
- 5:28Speaker 1: what are we putting them and how does it connect
- 5:31Speaker 1: to their everyday lives. Whether we understand the value and
- 5:36Speaker 1: importance of that or not, it is absolutely critical. We
- 5:40Speaker 1: need to make sure that we are showing these students
- 5:42Speaker 1: what is possible. And that's why I work so hard
- 5:45Speaker 1: so that they can see something to shoot for. Let
- 5:48Speaker 1: that service the engine that drives them, whether it is
- 5:51Speaker 1: that four year degree, whether it is that a two
- 5:54Speaker 1: year degree, whether it is a trade, something beyond just
- 5:58Speaker 1: going to do the quote, Well, they're minimal and making
- 6:03Speaker 1: sex absolutely because I always tell people that, you know,
- 6:05Speaker 1: you can't reapa or degree. Okay, my degree in that wall.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna come back and gay, Hey man, you know
- 6:11Speaker 1: some I'm gonna take that back. They can't do that.
- 6:13Speaker 1: I earned that. You know you can. You can't call
- 6:16Speaker 1: me stupid, you can't call me a dumby. It's right there. Okay,
- 6:19Speaker 1: what story are you telling it? That I've been recognized
- 6:22Speaker 1: as a person who knows how to apply himself. I'm
- 6:24Speaker 1: goal oriented, okay, and I know how to finish what
- 6:28Speaker 1: I start. That's what the degree means to me. And
- 6:32Speaker 1: when I talk about listen to your passion is a
- 6:35Speaker 1: passion that I didn't have because I didn't understand and
- 6:38Speaker 1: so and we know that the stop gap or the
- 6:41Speaker 1: the or the jump off point in this game of
- 6:44Speaker 1: competition that we call in this country we call America
- 6:47Speaker 1: is education because it's not equal. Education not equal, and
- 6:51Speaker 1: so which leads to a different story. And I think
- 6:53Speaker 1: that private secret, private sector should come in and stop
- 6:56Speaker 1: trying that we should stop trying to get the government
- 6:59Speaker 1: to fix the situation. And I believe that the sexual
- 7:02Speaker 1: chector come in because they're the ones who seek our
- 7:05Speaker 1: money in movies, seek our money, and android phones they
- 7:09Speaker 1: seek our money, and technology, they seek our money, and
- 7:12Speaker 1: grocery stores. They seek our money in so many different ways,
- 7:15Speaker 1: but they don't return that money to us when it
- 7:18Speaker 1: comes to lifestyle, when it comes to education, making a
- 7:21Speaker 1: difference in our community because they've they've they've, they've, they've
- 7:26Speaker 1: they've they've, they've developed a nice system, they keep the money.
- 7:29Speaker 1: They don't help out anybody but themselves, okay, And then
- 7:33Speaker 1: they said the government is supposed to do that. So
- 7:35Speaker 1: so that's one of the things that we know when
- 7:37Speaker 1: I look at this change in our community is civil unrest,
- 7:40Speaker 1: the pandemic. You know, I'm sitting down trying to create
- 7:44Speaker 1: an agenda, a plan of action, and the plan of
- 7:47Speaker 1: action is the old way ain't gonna work for the
- 7:50Speaker 1: new way. So we have to hit a new plan
- 7:54Speaker 1: in place for the new way to even have a
- 7:56Speaker 1: shot at working. And it has to include the private sector.
- 8:00Speaker 1: And that's that's a that's a statement from me. And
- 8:03Speaker 1: when I talked to me, to worldly people like you,
- 8:05Speaker 1: educated people like you, who know what I'm talking about
- 8:08Speaker 1: when I say education is not equal because it's tied
- 8:11Speaker 1: to it's tied to property tax. You know, it's tied
- 8:15Speaker 1: to the lot of program in each state, which doesn't
- 8:18Speaker 1: really do anything for education, like they say, because most
- 8:21Speaker 1: of the program going, most of the money goes to
- 8:22Speaker 1: the company that sets up a lot of and so
- 8:25Speaker 1: and so these things drive me. You know, I've been fortunate. Man.
- 8:29Speaker 1: You can google my name and there's a lot of
- 8:31Speaker 1: things come up about me, So you have you have
- 8:33Speaker 1: an image of who I am or idea who I am?
- 8:36Speaker 1: Who is Dr Seaun Woodley? Let me tell you something,
- 8:40Speaker 1: Dr Sean Woodley is. I'm a husband, I am a father,
- 8:46Speaker 1: I am a believer, and I am an educator. I
- 8:50Speaker 1: do a lot of things under that education umbrella, but
- 8:53Speaker 1: it all boils that back down to being an educator.
- 8:58Speaker 1: I get to leverage my creativity in what I do,
- 9:03Speaker 1: and that has that fuels my passion for entrepreneurship. I've
- 9:08Speaker 1: been able to uniquely combine the field of education and
- 9:12Speaker 1: entrepreneurship to not only do what I love, but serve
- 9:16Speaker 1: others while doing it. It's like the it's it's like
- 9:21Speaker 1: a beautiful mix that allows me to be who I
- 9:24Speaker 1: authentically am at this while at the same time giving
- 9:28Speaker 1: back and contributing to society, making a difference in the
- 9:32Speaker 1: lives of teachers who evidently make a difference in the
- 9:36Speaker 1: lives of their students. That that is who I am,
- 9:39Speaker 1: and that is how I think. That is what I
- 9:41Speaker 1: believe God to give to me is to give to
- 9:44Speaker 1: the world. Right. You know when I when I look
- 9:46Speaker 1: at your HBCU grad I said that your critic is
- 9:49Speaker 1: Hampton State University. Hey, you don't just tell you this, doctor,
- 9:52Speaker 1: Dr Sean. I get a lot of HBCU Ampton guests
- 9:56Speaker 1: on my show. I think it because of the executive
- 9:59Speaker 1: producer the show. She graduated from Hampton University. I think
- 10:02Speaker 1: that really she graduated and I seem to get a
- 10:06Speaker 1: lot of a lot of I'm not disappointed at the
- 10:10Speaker 1: end of the guest, I'm just telling you straight out
- 10:12Speaker 1: standing like you come on my show from Happy University.
- 10:15Speaker 1: But I think I think she's using my brand to
- 10:20Speaker 1: promote the brand of Hampton University, which is an outstand
- 10:24Speaker 1: at HBCU school. So tell us about your HBCU experience
- 10:27Speaker 1: and the value of attending a school like an HBCU
- 10:31Speaker 1: school like Hampton University. Let me tell you something. Hampton
- 10:35Speaker 1: University is my family. I stand by it, and it
- 10:38Speaker 1: was absolutely one of the best decisions I've ever made.
- 10:42Speaker 1: The reason that I ended up at Hampton or I.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I grew up in New York and my father raising
- 10:51Speaker 1: us in the church. She was a musician to Hampton
- 10:54Speaker 1: University every year during the summer has a ministers and
- 10:57Speaker 1: musicians conference that my father attend all the time. He's
- 11:01Speaker 1: the one that told me about Hampton University. And this
- 11:04Speaker 1: goes back to what you mentioned earlier about kind of
- 11:07Speaker 1: why how we can promote the idea of education to
- 11:12Speaker 1: the youth. I was never told in high school about HBCUs,
- 11:18Speaker 1: about what schools like Hampton A and t Spellman Morehouse.
- 11:23Speaker 1: I would never exposed to those things other than what
- 11:27Speaker 1: my family told me. And I'm so glad that my
- 11:30Speaker 1: dad put that battery in my back at a young
- 11:32Speaker 1: age to be aware of what Hampton was doing and
- 11:36Speaker 1: how it could benefit me. Uh. He took me down
- 11:39Speaker 1: there to take the tour of the campus. We went
- 11:41Speaker 1: as a family, my mom, my brothers, and after that
- 11:44Speaker 1: we you know, I have two uh younger siblings actually
- 11:48Speaker 1: three excuse me, that r HBCU attended and or graduates.
- 11:51Speaker 1: So like, this is something that I feel I was
- 11:55Speaker 1: able to set an example for them because of what
- 11:58Speaker 1: my dad and my mom showed me and my as
- 12:02Speaker 1: we like to say, my matriculation. That's wonderful, you know,
- 12:07Speaker 1: it was. It was life altering for me, if I
- 12:11Speaker 1: could say, because I mean what I've learned there, who
- 12:14Speaker 1: I met, it was. It was a microcosm of just
- 12:19Speaker 1: really love and education, um that you yearned for that
- 12:25Speaker 1: you cannot get at another p w Y and you
- 12:30Speaker 1: can't get that. I ask any HBCU grab and they'll
- 12:33Speaker 1: tell you about that family element that you just you
- 12:36Speaker 1: can you can imitate, but you can't duplicate that. I
- 12:41Speaker 1: love it. I love it. I'm talking to my man,
- 12:43Speaker 1: Dr Sean Woodley. He is a half the universe. The
- 12:47Speaker 1: hbc U two thousand four bachelor's good huh, two thousand
- 12:53Speaker 1: and four bachelor's degree, two thousand five, Masters degree, then
- 12:57Speaker 1: following up with his PhD. We're gonna be back in
- 12:59Speaker 1: more to our about his brand of education, his books,
- 13:02Speaker 1: all those great things, and first of all, he know
- 13:04Speaker 1: now about money making conversation. You know a lot of
- 13:07Speaker 1: people called my show. They call, you know, people tell
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- 13:17Speaker 1: he when he called me to be on this show,
- 13:20Speaker 1: I was absolutely with a Okay, let'll be right back there.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Said Hi, this was Sean McDonald and you're listening to
- 13:28Speaker 1: the money Making Conversation. I've been having a good old
- 13:31Speaker 1: time with Dr Sean Woodley about his brand education. You
- 13:34Speaker 1: know how he started in the education, what the education
- 13:36Speaker 1: means to him, what it means to me, the passion
- 13:39Speaker 1: behind education. It took me seven years to get my degree. Uh.
- 13:43Speaker 1: I was arrogant. I thought I'd be in and out.
- 13:45Speaker 1: But what I did when I went to college, I
- 13:47Speaker 1: was just trying I'm gona tell you something, Dr Sean.
- 13:49Speaker 1: I was just trying to go to. I was trying
- 13:51Speaker 1: to find an easy degree. Okay, the first four and
- 13:54Speaker 1: a half yeard, I was looking for the easy degree.
- 13:56Speaker 1: My friends go easy, an easy teaching. He's an easy teach.
- 14:00Speaker 1: I went to and when they had no symbols of
- 14:02Speaker 1: what they had to do with my degree plans, I
- 14:04Speaker 1: was trying to find easy teachers. I found them all
- 14:07Speaker 1: and then I found one easy teaching in physics that
- 14:09Speaker 1: gave me an elf that woked me up. That woked
- 14:14Speaker 1: me up because they realized that you have to work.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Life is about working hard and being consistent. And when
- 14:19Speaker 1: I look at your brand, when you talk about education,
- 14:22Speaker 1: you have to be consistent and you have to create
- 14:24Speaker 1: a model that people can believe it and can use
- 14:27Speaker 1: to teach other people. Talk about your brain a little bit.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Dr Sean Sure, Sure, I'm I preach and teach, teach, hustle, inspire,
- 14:37Speaker 1: and and here's what it means. Teach, hustle, inspire is
- 14:40Speaker 1: not just three particular words that I randomly put together
- 14:45Speaker 1: and threw it up as a logo. They have intention
- 14:48Speaker 1: behind each of those. When I talk about teach, it's
- 14:51Speaker 1: about how we unlock our students and our own intellectual treasure.
- 14:56Speaker 1: That's what it means. How can we create trans forman
- 15:00Speaker 1: of learning experiences for ourselves, for our students in our classroom.
- 15:04Speaker 1: That hustle park, that's that's my favorite part. That hustle
- 15:08Speaker 1: is about how we can't stop that won't stop learning.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Mr McDonald's here and it kind of has that nineties
- 15:14Speaker 1: d D bad boy vibe twins to it just a
- 15:17Speaker 1: little bit. That's that's my personality being there in there
- 15:20Speaker 1: a little bit. But how do we keep how do
- 15:23Speaker 1: we stay on top of the current research, How do
- 15:25Speaker 1: we stay on top of what we need to know
- 15:28Speaker 1: to continue because see, education don't stop, Education does not stop.
- 15:33Speaker 1: How do we continue to learn to be the best
- 15:36Speaker 1: we can for ourselves and our students? And that inspire
- 15:40Speaker 1: It means to spread love and like what we do
- 15:43Speaker 1: with educators, that can be a thankless profession. Sometimes with
- 15:47Speaker 1: the inequities in the curriculums that we see, with the
- 15:50Speaker 1: inequities and distribution of funds, we sometimes we feel like
- 15:55Speaker 1: we're all we have. So we have to be sure
- 15:57Speaker 1: that we're spreading that love and life to one another,
- 16:00Speaker 1: pouring back into ourselves and taking care of our soaps
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- 18:03Speaker 1: Dot ai. It's really amazing when I when I think
- 18:07Speaker 1: about it, you know, when we still talk about unequal education,
- 18:13Speaker 1: and we still talk about, you know, denying people an
- 18:16Speaker 1: opportunity to get an equal education, and that's usually tied
- 18:20Speaker 1: to the community that you grow up in and you're
- 18:23Speaker 1: in Atlanta, me in the South, and you know that
- 18:26Speaker 1: what you really was the reason we have hbc US
- 18:29Speaker 1: because it was a time where the southern schools wouldn't
- 18:33Speaker 1: let a black person in the school and then the
- 18:34Speaker 1: northern school headquarters or limitations. So it was out of
- 18:38Speaker 1: necessity that we had to create these hbc used which
- 18:42Speaker 1: are now the backbone of education, especially for African American
- 18:45Speaker 1: success stores in this country today. That's one of the
- 18:48Speaker 1: reasons why I take the time to be able to
- 18:52Speaker 1: articulate the value and the need. Now when you talk
- 18:55Speaker 1: about education and you you you broke down the whole
- 18:58Speaker 1: teach hustle inspired whether all about? But how did they
- 19:01Speaker 1: come about? You know what what the what? What? What? What?
- 19:04Speaker 1: What launched it? Though? Dr Sean? What launched did? That
- 19:08Speaker 1: came from a need for me to try and find
- 19:13Speaker 1: a unique and creative way to pour into the lives
- 19:16Speaker 1: of educators and give back. I am, I'm a speaker
- 19:21Speaker 1: and consultant and you know all in the under the
- 19:25Speaker 1: umbrella of educating that is that is what I do.
- 19:29Speaker 1: I wanted to find something that could connect us in
- 19:33Speaker 1: the education world, something especially those of us that serve
- 19:37Speaker 1: in urban and culturally diverse communities because there are specific
- 19:40Speaker 1: challenges that we are simply at a fundamental level not
- 19:45Speaker 1: prepared to deal with. And again it's not because something
- 19:49Speaker 1: is wrong, it's just that we are not prepared. So
- 19:52Speaker 1: I created this with the mind with the mindset of
- 19:56Speaker 1: how can I help prepare dedicated and talented educators to
- 20:02Speaker 1: face the challenges that can arise in urban and culturally
- 20:07Speaker 1: diverse communities so that we can now move this agenda
- 20:11Speaker 1: forward and balance these scales a little bit. But it
- 20:14Speaker 1: really just came from my desire to what to serve,
- 20:19Speaker 1: to want to unite and start a movement, and I
- 20:23Speaker 1: just it's it's not something that I just thought of
- 20:25Speaker 1: one particular day to teach hustle inspire. Kind of it
- 20:30Speaker 1: seems like it came out of nowhere. But what you're
- 20:32Speaker 1: seeing are the results of years, years of research, years
- 20:37Speaker 1: of practice, and years of trial error, failing, fail again,
- 20:43Speaker 1: fail forward, fail some more, try it again. That's what
- 20:47Speaker 1: you're seeing now are the results of that. And this
- 20:50Speaker 1: is just the beginning. That's that's powerful words, um and
- 20:53Speaker 1: so those are some of the when you say obstacles,
- 20:56Speaker 1: you know it is one of these over to me.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Um is are the obstacles, Uh, Disbelievers are obstacles yourself
- 21:05Speaker 1: sometimes doubting whether this is this will be received? What
- 21:09Speaker 1: exactly are the obstacles that you're talking about. Some of
- 21:13Speaker 1: the obstacles UM definitely do come in the form of
- 21:19Speaker 1: self sabotage and questioning whether or not you are the
- 21:25Speaker 1: one that should be doing this. As far as t
- 21:28Speaker 1: hustle inspired inspire is concerned that that can the obstacles
- 21:33Speaker 1: can start from within and if I am not careful,
- 21:37Speaker 1: if I am not emotionally aware enough to examine that
- 21:40Speaker 1: it is nothing more than just self sabotage and that
- 21:44Speaker 1: I can overcome, that it can be something that consumes me.
- 21:48Speaker 1: But my passion and desire and understanding to know that
- 21:52Speaker 1: I'm called to do this outweighs those obstacles and makes
- 21:56Speaker 1: them speed bumps at the post hurdles. So now out
- 22:00Speaker 1: what I can do is with the understanding that and
- 22:04Speaker 1: not to get church on you. But God doesn't call
- 22:07Speaker 1: to qualify, He qualifies the call. I understand that this
- 22:11Speaker 1: is a mission for me and now I'm growing and
- 22:14Speaker 1: that as long as I stay true to who I
- 22:16Speaker 1: am and what the Good Lord has for me. I
- 22:18Speaker 1: can't tell us, Oh no, you won't, you won't. That's
- 22:20Speaker 1: why I set up this show. My friend is passionate driven,
- 22:24Speaker 1: and the information that I give through my faith and
- 22:27Speaker 1: through my passion, I educate people who listen and follow
- 22:30Speaker 1: my brand. So we're on the same page. Now, tell
- 22:33Speaker 1: us about your artcoming um conference for urban educators. Sure. Sure.
- 22:38Speaker 1: I wanted to create a unique experience called the Super
- 22:43Speaker 1: Teachers Summit. And what happens is this is going to
- 22:47Speaker 1: be a unique online virtual event. We we you know,
- 22:51Speaker 1: we have to be cautious with everything happening coronavirus wise,
- 22:55Speaker 1: about large gatherings and so forth, but that's still doesn't
- 23:00Speaker 1: put a stop on the work that needs to be done,
- 23:02Speaker 1: because come August September, there are still children that are
- 23:05Speaker 1: going to need to be educated. So I wanted to
- 23:08Speaker 1: come up with a unique way to garner educators attention
- 23:13Speaker 1: to help solve some of the problems that they will
- 23:16Speaker 1: inevitably face. And I created this unique event to be
- 23:19Speaker 1: an online, interactive virtual experience more than just someone sitting
- 23:26Speaker 1: in front of a screen and then now alright, everything
- 23:29Speaker 1: is going in one ear and out of the other.
- 23:32Speaker 1: I wanted to make this a little bit more than
- 23:35Speaker 1: simply just your average teacher conference, if you will, And
- 23:40Speaker 1: so I I gave it a theme. I embedded some
- 23:44Speaker 1: of the research and some phenomenal speakers that I know
- 23:47Speaker 1: of that are really doing the work in this field.
- 23:50Speaker 1: And I'm putting together what I know will be a
- 23:53Speaker 1: Dynamites event in August. So is there any set date
- 23:58Speaker 1: for aug yet or just all the still planning. It's
- 24:02Speaker 1: still planning. It's going to be the first weekend in
- 24:04Speaker 1: August that you want to make sure. I want to
- 24:05Speaker 1: be a part of that. Whatever I can do to
- 24:07Speaker 1: promote it through my social or my newsletter goes a
- 24:10Speaker 1: weekly every Friday at nine am. I'll make you're part
- 24:12Speaker 1: of that conversation. Before I was a couple of things.
- 24:15Speaker 1: But I want to talk to about before we leaves.
- 24:16Speaker 1: I wanted I did not read your best selling book
- 24:19Speaker 1: MC means Move the class, How the spark engagement and
- 24:22Speaker 1: motivation and urban and culturally diverse classroom? Tell us about that?
- 24:26Speaker 1: And then I also want to close and response from
- 24:28Speaker 1: you about what's going on in America right now. Okay, absolutely,
- 24:33Speaker 1: the book for me came from my experiences teaching. I
- 24:37Speaker 1: spent ten years UM teaching in urban schools, and while
- 24:42Speaker 1: doing that, because I was I knew that there were
- 24:46Speaker 1: things that I wanted to do. I had a side
- 24:48Speaker 1: hustle at the DJ. So literally Ms McDonald, I would
- 24:51Speaker 1: pull up to the schoolyard and teach during the day
- 24:54Speaker 1: and being the club at night with my turn tables
- 24:56Speaker 1: in the literal, and it was it was so fund yeah.
- 25:01Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about parties, clubs, weddings, bar mits,
- 25:05Speaker 1: was barbecues, It doesn't matter if they had if they
- 25:08Speaker 1: were paying and needed music services. I was in there.
- 25:12Speaker 1: And so what I began to notice is that I
- 25:15Speaker 1: was growing as a DJ and growing as an educator simultaneously,
- 25:21Speaker 1: and some coincidental not my coincidental, some emerging commonalities started
- 25:29Speaker 1: to really make way about both professions, about being a teacher,
- 25:34Speaker 1: about being in DJ, and so really that that mc see.
- 25:38Speaker 1: You know, back in the day when I grew, I
- 25:40Speaker 1: grew up on Long Island and Eric being rock Cam
- 25:43Speaker 1: had from Eric B as president the song um excuse
- 25:48Speaker 1: me um, Eric B as president, not second verse where
- 25:51Speaker 1: our cam talks about Eric B on the cut scratching
- 25:55Speaker 1: the medicine, no mistakes allowed. Because to me, mc means
- 25:59Speaker 1: moved the problem. And that line always stuck to me.
- 26:03Speaker 1: It really because what stands out about that is what
- 26:05Speaker 1: rock Him was telling us is that his his role
- 26:09Speaker 1: as an m C it's it's not just a position,
- 26:12Speaker 1: it's a responsibility. Mr McDonald, that's that's my responsibility to
- 26:16Speaker 1: move this crowd. So I took that and and with
- 26:19Speaker 1: that same mindset, it's my responsibility to move this class
- 26:23Speaker 1: and as a DJ, as a as a teacher. You know,
- 26:27Speaker 1: in both roles, I'm a motivator. I am the reason
- 26:31Speaker 1: that you're going to in this club dance or I'm
- 26:33Speaker 1: the reason in this classroom you're going to learn. In
- 26:36Speaker 1: both roles, I curate specific content so that when in
- 26:41Speaker 1: the timing of winning his place, to create an absolute
- 26:44Speaker 1: experience for either the people in the club or the
- 26:48Speaker 1: students in my classroom, making real time decisions, making sure
- 26:52Speaker 1: that I am on top of everything, and making sure
- 26:55Speaker 1: that I can change when needed. Making those ah sumans
- 27:00Speaker 1: to really read the crowd and feed off of that energy.
- 27:03Speaker 1: It becomes sick. Wow, that's hot. You know that's hot
- 27:10Speaker 1: because I hear the passion, I hear the planning out here.
- 27:13Speaker 1: It's a it's authentic. That's what I hear the most, doctor,
- 27:16Speaker 1: and that's why, that's why, that's why it works, because
- 27:19Speaker 1: it's not something you made up. It's tied to a journey.
- 27:23Speaker 1: You know. The journey in the world that we're living
- 27:25Speaker 1: in right now is um I did an interview this
- 27:28Speaker 1: morning and I was telling them that one out of
- 27:31Speaker 1: one thousand black men and boys will be killed by
- 27:35Speaker 1: a police officer. That's one out of one thousand. That's
- 27:39Speaker 1: two point five times higher than white men and white boys.
- 27:43Speaker 1: And when people ask us, why, why the unrest, why
- 27:47Speaker 1: the protests, what is your response? Dr Shaun Woodley, Hello,
- 28:03Speaker 1: do you cannot tell the oppressed? Essentially, It's been quoted
- 28:08Speaker 1: and said so many times, but you can't tell the
- 28:10Speaker 1: oppressed how to respond to their oppression. You can't do that.
- 28:14Speaker 1: What you're seeing are the results of years of years
- 28:19Speaker 1: and years, hundreds of years of outcries, hundreds of years
- 28:22Speaker 1: of just simply making a plea not to be treated better,
- 28:26Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, for being treated the same. That's all we want,
- 28:30Speaker 1: that's that's at the end of the day. We just
- 28:33Speaker 1: wanted to be treated the same. And so now what
- 28:35Speaker 1: has resulted from that is the the emotional outburst of
- 28:41Speaker 1: the people that has been held down far too long. Absolutely,
- 28:44Speaker 1: I always tell people I just want my child to
- 28:46Speaker 1: have a better life than our hands. And I think
- 28:48Speaker 1: that anybody who's not my color wants the same thing.
- 28:51Speaker 1: So just give me my shot. But when I'm stopped
- 28:54Speaker 1: by the pot, least, don't allow a lobby not to
- 28:56Speaker 1: be afraid. Now, allow me to not believe that this
- 28:59Speaker 1: might be a stop I'm drive away from. That's all
- 29:01Speaker 1: I'm asking. And when I say one out of one thousand,
- 29:05Speaker 1: that's an incredible number. Two publicly say this documented story
- 29:09Speaker 1: came out of the Los Angeles time I read it
- 29:12Speaker 1: and then have and I've been horrified ever since. Dr Sean.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Would I hope you enjoyed coming on my show. It's
- 29:18Speaker 1: a it's a journey. It's a journey about it's your journey.
- 29:20Speaker 1: I wanted to share with my listeners on money making conversations.
- 29:23Speaker 1: And no, you have a friend and uh and when
- 29:25Speaker 1: the when the conference comes out, the Urban Educator's Conference
- 29:28Speaker 1: comes out in August. If you want to come back,
- 29:31Speaker 1: the doors open, if you want to just send banners,
- 29:33Speaker 1: the doors open. And I would promise you. I promoted
- 29:36Speaker 1: in my news letter which goes out to ninety thousand
- 29:38Speaker 1: people every Friday at nine am, and I put it
- 29:41Speaker 1: on on social media for Money Making Conversations, I would
- 29:44Speaker 1: love that, Gal, Thank you so much. Thank you for
- 29:47Speaker 1: coming to my show. If you want to hear more
- 29:48Speaker 1: episodes of Money Making Conversation, please go to money Making
- 29:50Speaker 1: Conversation dot com. I'm Rashan McDonald. I'm your host. In
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