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The Cognitive Chronicles Cover-Up plus Trump’s Russia-Ukraine Peace Gambit · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: The Biden cover up and the story of the cognitive
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Speaker 1: decline of Joe Biden number one, but also now what
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Speaker 1: could be the cover up with his medical issues is
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Speaker 1: a very big story, and this cover up is one
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Speaker 1: that is now being covered up by the mainstream media
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Speaker 1: not wanting you to talk about it, know about it,
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Speaker 1: hear anything about it at all. ABC, CBS, NBC, and
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Speaker 1: PBS spent a shocking combined seven minutes on the newest
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Speaker 1: Biden decline stories. Now this is put together from some
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Speaker 1: amazing work from NewsBusters, and joining me now to talk
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Speaker 1: about this is Tim Graham, the executive editor of Newsbuster. Tim,
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Speaker 1: you guys do an amazing job. We quote your stuff
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Speaker 1: often here. But this is one of those stories yet
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Speaker 1: again showing just how biased the media is by refusing
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Speaker 1: to talk about the cover up from this book original
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Speaker 1: Sin that's been put out there by axiosin by Jake Tapper,
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Speaker 1: a reporter, and they're not covering it, and they're certainly
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Speaker 1: not covering it the other issues as well.
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Speaker 2: Well. Thank you, Ben. I think obviously the revelation started
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Speaker 2: coming out of this book with these stories, like the
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Speaker 2: Biden team was considering getting a wheelchair for the President
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Speaker 2: because he was having such trouble getting around stories like
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Speaker 2: this that they couldn't you know, they didn't want that
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Speaker 2: to come out before the election, even after he stepped down,
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Speaker 2: because the obvious point was he should have just resigned,
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Speaker 2: you know, when he dropped out of the race, because
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Speaker 2: if he wasn't able to run for president, why is
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Speaker 2: he able to be president? But again, everybody wanted to
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Speaker 2: accommodate the Bidens rather than serve the American people. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: what's amazing about this is, yeah, we have seven minutes
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Speaker 2: of coverage and almost all of it is NBC News,
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Speaker 2: like five minutes plus of the seven is NBC News,
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Speaker 2: ABC and CBS put together didn't get to a full minutes.
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Speaker 2: And PBS just didn't want to touch it at all.
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Speaker 2: So they touch it.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that is
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Speaker 1: just incredible. If you talk about the book, and it's
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Speaker 1: called original sin, the original sin of virtually all of
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Speaker 1: these organizations is that they knew there was a massive
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Speaker 1: cognitive decline and they were held bent on making sure
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Speaker 1: that was never ever covered.
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Speaker 2: And obviously, what the book tells you is that the
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Speaker 2: Biden team would scream at you if you even asked
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Speaker 2: the questions, and so they you know, that's where you
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Speaker 2: say the idea that the national media can portray themselves
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Speaker 2: as independent bactcheckers holding the government accountable. None of that's
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Speaker 2: true because they're so easily intimidated by Biden White House pressure.
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Speaker 2: They weren't independent at all. They were playing. They were
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Speaker 2: They reported like they were teammates. That's their whole problem.
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Speaker 2: They're not referees, they're teammates. They want to make sure
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Speaker 2: the team wins. That's what comes first and foremost. So
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Speaker 2: they don't care about the truth. They're not fact checkers.
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Speaker 2: They are spin you know, spin machines, and they spin
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Speaker 2: whatever messages the Democrats want you to have.
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Speaker 3: Today, let's talk about the cover up.
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Speaker 1: Of the cover up, and this goes to Jake Tapper specifically.
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Speaker 1: It is amazing how rich it is for a guy
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Speaker 1: like Tapper to write a book now and to say, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you about the cover up that
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Speaker 1: I was a part of. You couldn't go on Jake
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Speaker 1: Tapper's show and talk about this, I want to be
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Speaker 1: very clear, and he would shut you down in silence
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Speaker 1: you if you tried to challenge him on it, including
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Speaker 1: Laura Trump.
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Speaker 3: We saw that happen in an interview.
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Speaker 1: But when I was at SANAA as a political commentator,
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Speaker 1: we were told, when this conversation had begun about the
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Speaker 1: cognitive clinent of John Biden, we weren't allowed to talk
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Speaker 1: about it. We're not going to speculate. You're not a doctor,
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Speaker 1: you're not a neurologist. A list was on on we
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Speaker 1: will not talk about this, CNN, We're not to bring
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Speaker 1: it up.
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Speaker 3: And then now all of a.
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Speaker 1: Sudden, he's like, hey, let me be a best selling
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Speaker 1: author and tell you about the cover up that I
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Speaker 1: was a part of.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, this is what's so funny about all
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Speaker 2: of this, when they say you're not a doctor and
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Speaker 2: you can't speculate. We sat here at NewsBusters and chronicled
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Speaker 2: many times many Brian Stelter stories, among others, where they
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Speaker 2: said Donald Trump is mentally unfit to be president. Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump needs a twenty fifth Amendment quote unquote solution, he
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Speaker 2: doesn't have the mental fitness. They would bring on these psychologists, experts,
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Speaker 2: you know, on the so called reliable Sources show, and
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Speaker 2: they would say he's not fit to be president. So
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Speaker 2: the idea that CNN would see, on the one hand,
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Speaker 2: you can't speculate about Biden's mental health and then endlessly
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Speaker 2: speculate about Trump's just shows you what you're getting from CNN.
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the accountability on this issue. And
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Speaker 1: I think this is a really important point that needs
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Speaker 1: to be made. You know, there was speculation now from
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Speaker 1: a lot of this reporting that's coming out that there
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Speaker 1: were five people apparently running the United States of America
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Speaker 1: acting as president of the United States of America.
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Speaker 3: Their speculation on who those five may be.
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Speaker 1: Let me guess, are we seeing this be another blackout
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Speaker 1: of the media where they're not asking questions even after
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Speaker 1: what we know in this reporting?
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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, I think they are trying to suggest
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Speaker 2: they've named some names here of the people who were
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Speaker 2: who were the palace guard around Biden, what they you know,
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Speaker 2: But a lot of these revelations are anonymously sourced. You know,
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Speaker 2: it turns upper and Thompson into Bob Woodward. And you know,
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Speaker 2: that's what's always bothered me about books like this. He's
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Speaker 2: got inflammatory information in it given to you by it
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Speaker 2: sources who remain anonymous. And that's because every Democrat or
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Speaker 2: Republican who's who dishes this out, wants to protect their
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Speaker 2: own future so that they can work in politics again,
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Speaker 2: so that you know, the reporters obviously accept this deal
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Speaker 2: of I'm going to get the bombshells and nobody's really
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Speaker 2: going to care whose name is on it. Now, there
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Speaker 2: are people in here who are brave enough to just
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Speaker 2: state on the record. I saw him. I was concerned.
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Speaker 2: I mean, but you know, some of them are elected people.
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Speaker 2: Senator Mark Warner, who is very explicit about I talked
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Speaker 2: to Biden about the houties or whatever, and I got
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Speaker 2: no sense that he understood what I was saying. You know,
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Speaker 2: so put your name should be put on this. And again,
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Speaker 2: if you were going to be honest about what Biden said,
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Speaker 2: here's one of the reasons why you want to remain anonymous,
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Speaker 2: because and Tapper and Thompson do make this point. These
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Speaker 2: are people who fiercely defended Biden's sharpness at the same
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Speaker 2: time they were looking at the guy falling apart, and
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Speaker 2: that doesn't make them look like truth tellers.
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Speaker 1: So let's go to the takeaways here, and I want
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Speaker 1: to get your take on this and the work that
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Speaker 1: you guys do.
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Speaker 3: I hope everybody will check you out.
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Speaker 1: Follow you obviously on social media as well, because you
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Speaker 1: guys put up incredible stuff. We use a lot of
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Speaker 1: it here and I want people to make sure they
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Speaker 1: can find it. You guys, if you're online, you can
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Speaker 1: go to NewsBusters dot org. You can find them on
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Speaker 1: social media, on Facebook, on acts, etc. Grab it there.
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Speaker 1: But let's talk about the accountability here with the media.
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Speaker 1: You look and go back to your you guys analysis
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Speaker 1: of ABC, CBSNBC. There eve news and more news programs
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Speaker 1: as well as PBS News Hour. You go back to
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Speaker 1: May thirteenth through the morning of May nineteenth, y'all found
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Speaker 1: they spend a grand total of the seven minutes and
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Speaker 1: sixteen seconds on the reporting from Tapper and his co
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Speaker 1: author Alex Thompson, Like this is amazing. They don't want
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Speaker 1: this story to ever show up. They want to be
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Speaker 1: silent on it. They want to be quiet on it.
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Speaker 1: They want to move on as quickly as possible. Is
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Speaker 1: there going to be accountability for the media that is
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Speaker 1: basically at this point state sponsored media.
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Speaker 2: Well, obviously, any public opinion poll that you look at
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Speaker 2: about do you trust the press? We are at all
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Speaker 2: time lows. We've been at all time lows for a while,
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Speaker 2: and it's you can't get an all time low just
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Speaker 2: because Republicans certainly trust the press. You're at an all
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Speaker 2: time low because independents don't trust the press. Who trusts
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Speaker 2: the press the most, the Democrats. What does that tell you?
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Speaker 2: It tells you that when somebody talks, when Corey Booker
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Speaker 2: comes out and says we need because we need trustworthy journalism,
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Speaker 2: what they mean is they can be trusted to help
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Speaker 2: the Democrats. And so this is another story when obviously
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Speaker 2: it's not just a problem for the media and trustworthiness. Now,
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Speaker 2: it's been something that's been going on this entire time
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Speaker 2: that people are like, why can't you see what every
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Speaker 2: one of us sees? And you know, we would be
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Speaker 2: watching something like NBC News at home and the words
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Speaker 2: from the reporters were all like President Biden did blankety
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Speaker 2: blank today, and you're watching him walk the way he
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Speaker 2: walked and make faces and shake hands with the air,
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Speaker 2: and it's like, even if the reporters don't really notice
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Speaker 2: it in their words, everybody can see the picture. And
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Speaker 2: that does undermine the press. It's like, how do you
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Speaker 2: not notice that this is going on? You know, it's
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Speaker 2: not the emperor has no clothes. It's more like the
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Speaker 2: emperor has no you know, brain.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great point. I hope everybody will check
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Speaker 1: out what the work you guys are doing. Tell everybody
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Speaker 1: where they can find it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're at NewsBusters dot Org and of course NewsBusters
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Speaker 2: on Twitter and Facebook, and I'm at Tim J. Grahamgrah Am.
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Speaker 3: There you go.
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Speaker 1: Tim, Always a pleasure, look forward to having you back
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Speaker 1: here real soon. And congratulations on the work you guys
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Speaker 1: are doing.
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Speaker 2: You bet.
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Speaker 1: President Trump announced that the Ukraine and Russia war is
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Speaker 1: going to go into negotiations towards a ceasefire and suggested
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Speaker 1: that talks could take place at the Vatican. Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: put it this way on True Social saying quote, I
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Speaker 1: just completed my two hour call with President Vladimir Putin
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Speaker 1: of Russia.
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Speaker 3: I believe it went very well.
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Speaker 1: Russian Ukraine will immediately start negotiations towards a ceasefire and
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Speaker 1: more importantly, an end to the war.
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Speaker 3: The conditions for that will.
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Speaker 1: Be negotiated between the two parties, as it can only
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Speaker 1: be because they know details of a negotiation that nobody
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Speaker 1: else would be aware of. The tone and spirit of
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Speaker 1: the conversation we're excellent. If it wasn't, I would say
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Speaker 1: so now rather than later. Russia wants to do large
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Speaker 1: scale trade with the United States when this catastrophic bloodbath
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Speaker 1: is over, and I agree. There is a tremendous opportunity
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Speaker 1: for Russia to create massive amounts of jobs and wealth.
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Speaker 3: Its potential is unlimited.
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Speaker 1: Likewise, Ukraine can be a great beneficiary on trade in
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Speaker 1: the process of rebuilding its country. Negotiations between Russia and
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Speaker 1: Ukraine will begin immediately. I have also informed President Zelensky
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Speaker 1: of Ukraine, as well as the President of the European Commission,
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Speaker 1: the President of France, President of Georgia, the President of Italy,
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Speaker 1: the Chancellor of Germany, and the President of Finland. During
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Speaker 1: a call with me immediately after the call with President Putin,
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Speaker 1: the Vatican, as represented by the Pope, has stated that
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Speaker 1: it would be very interested in hosting the negotiation. So
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Speaker 1: let the process begin, the President says in his statement,
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Speaker 1: Now Russian Ukraine again will immediately start negotiations towards the ceasefire.
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Speaker 1: That is the big moment here that everyone has been
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Speaker 1: waiting for, and part of what the President's clearly offering is, Hey,
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Speaker 1: if you guys do this deal and stop this war.
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Speaker 1: Then we're going to trade with you again, and there's
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Speaker 1: very good chance that many of the sanctions that are
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Speaker 1: hurting your economy will disappear as long as you are
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Speaker 1: a peaceful nation. After Trump talked with Putin, he spoke
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Speaker 1: with the Ukrainian President Zelenski as well as these other
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Speaker 1: leaders to let them know what they had talked about,
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Speaker 1: because it was, in fact, a very long conversation. Now,
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Speaker 1: one other thing about this story that I want you
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Speaker 1: to know is what the President actually had to say
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Speaker 1: in his own words. I want you to take a
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Speaker 1: listen to this from President Trump talking about what happened
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Speaker 1: on this call.
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Speaker 4: Well, I want to thank everybody. We just spent two
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Speaker 4: and a half hours talking to Vladimir Putin, and I
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Speaker 4: think some progress has been made. It's a terrible sit
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Speaker 4: going on over there. Five thousand young people every single
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Speaker 4: week of being killed, so hopefully we did something. We
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Speaker 4: also spoke to the heads of most of the European
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Speaker 4: nations and we're trying to get that whole thing wrapped up.
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Speaker 4: What a shame that it ever started in the first place.
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Speaker 1: Now, of course, the media is trying to find some
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Speaker 1: way to say that Donald Trump is bailing on these
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Speaker 1: negotiations after having a more than two hour conversation with
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Speaker 1: Vadimir Putin, Right, because you can't give credit for real
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Speaker 1: leadership if you're in the media. So the press asked
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Speaker 1: the president this question about are you guys now taking
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Speaker 1: a quote back seat and walking away?
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Speaker 3: Listen to the present response.
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Speaker 5: I'm called with President Kuton today. You'd mentioned that the
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Speaker 5: Pope would like to take a role potentially and immediating
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Speaker 5: these tasks.
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Speaker 3: Does that mean that you.
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Speaker 6: As is taking a step back from No.
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Speaker 4: No, No, I think it would be great to have it.
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Speaker 7: At the Vatican.
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Speaker 4: Maybe you would have some extra significance so that it
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Speaker 4: was discussed yesterday, so I thought, and people told me
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Speaker 4: that they'd be on there to do it, I would
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Speaker 4: imagine they would be. So No, I think it would
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Speaker 4: be maybe helpful. This tremendous bitterness anger, and I think
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Speaker 4: maybe that could help some of that anger. So having
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Speaker 4: it that the Vatican would be in Rome would be
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Speaker 4: a very I think it would be a great idea.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Now, even the media is kind of shocked by the
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Speaker 1: President's leadership on this one. And I say kind of shocked,
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Speaker 1: and I roll my eyes because they shouldn't be. This
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Speaker 1: is part of what the President of the United States
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Speaker 1: of America said he was going to do. He said,
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Speaker 1: if you elect him, he's going to stop these wars.
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Speaker 3: No one should.
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Speaker 1: Have doubted him when he said I Am going to
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Speaker 1: stop these wars, and CNN says Russia State News Agency
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Speaker 1: is also reporting that this was a very effective call.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that was hard for them to admit.
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Speaker 5: Take a listen, We're told that the phone call between
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Speaker 5: President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin has ended. That's
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Speaker 5: according to a White House official. I'm going to get
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Speaker 5: straight to our chief International Security correspondent, Nick Peyton Walsh, Nick,
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Speaker 5: what are you learning?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is according to Russian States News Agency tasks
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Speaker 8: who are giving us the first read out based on
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Speaker 8: comments made by Russian President Vladimir Putin, who emerged from
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Speaker 8: this phone call that he took it a music school
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Speaker 8: in the southern resort town of Tsachi, to say that
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Speaker 8: it lasted for two hours. He described it as frank
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Speaker 8: and substantive. He noted that he said that Trump noted
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Speaker 8: that Russia stands for a peaceful settlement of the crisis
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Speaker 8: in Ukraine. He said, Russia is in favor of stopping
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Speaker 8: the fighting, but it's unnecessary to develop the most effective
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Speaker 8: paths to peace. He also said that a ceasefire is
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Speaker 8: possible upon reaching the corresponding agreements, and that indeed a
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Speaker 8: memorandum between Russia and Ukraine may address that particular point.
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Speaker 8: He said also that the meeting in Istanbul we saw
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Speaker 8: last week on Friday, low level Russia sent there, suggests
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Speaker 8: that quote, they're generally on the right track. Al He
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Speaker 8: said he was very appreciative of a conversation with Trump
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Speaker 8: and indeed that Russia is ready to work on a
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Speaker 8: memorandum of a future peace agreement, and that Russia and
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Speaker 8: Ukraine must find compromises that suit both.
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Speaker 3: Sides, that suit both sides.
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Speaker 1: So you step back from this for just a second,
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Speaker 1: and let's just go to what Donald Trump said, Vote
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Speaker 1: for me and I'm going to bring peace, not world
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Speaker 1: War three. Right, That's what Democrats always wanted to say.
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Speaker 1: Vote for me and I'm going to bring peace. That
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Speaker 1: is exactly what he's offering here. And the last Trump administration,
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Speaker 1: by the way, hit Russia where it hurt. Sanctions, energy dominance,
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Speaker 1: and direct military action when necessary. That's what's gotten them
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Speaker 1: to the table now because Putin remembers, he also knows
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Speaker 1: that Trump isn't bluffing. That's why he didn't move on
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Speaker 1: Ukraine during Trump's first term. This is exactly why the
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Speaker 1: president United States of America now has the upper hand.
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Speaker 1: This has also talked about today on TV as well,
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Speaker 1: just reminding people the truth about the past.
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Speaker 6: The one strategic mistake that mister Putin has made was
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Speaker 6: another brazen attack on civilians and civilian infrastructure. I think
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Speaker 6: that that awakens some in the White House. And it's
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Speaker 6: the United States that holds holds all the tools here,
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Speaker 6: both economic and military. The last thing Vladimir Putin wants
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Speaker 6: to do is a return to the first Trump administration,
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Speaker 6: when his economy was broken by sanctions and a low
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Speaker 6: price for oil. He pegged his economy to one hundred
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Speaker 6: dollars a barrel. When Trump finally unleashes the energy power
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Speaker 6: of the United States, we're going to see oil come
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Speaker 6: back down again. And Putin will also know that Trump
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Speaker 6: can turn off the spigots to his banks and isolate
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Speaker 6: him in that regard.
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Speaker 1: And do you think, I mean you just have to
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Speaker 1: stop there, and you hear this Vladimir Putin knows what
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Speaker 1: happens when you screw with Donald Trump. He also knows
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Speaker 1: what happened the last time he was president, and it
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Speaker 1: absolutely did dismantle, straight up dismantle his economy. Why do
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Speaker 1: you think he's come to the table now, It's because
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Speaker 1: of you go back to Ronald Reagan, power through strength,
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Speaker 1: and that's exactly what he's doing right now. Jake Tapper
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Speaker 1: sat down with Meghan Kelly to talk about this new book,
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Speaker 1: and let me just tell you, it was hysterical to
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Speaker 1: watch him squirm when Meghan Kelly nailed him to the
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Speaker 1: wall about his participation and complicity in the Biden cover up.
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Speaker 1: The same guy now making money off of a book
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Speaker 1: about the big lie, right, this massive lie that was told,
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Speaker 1: And it's like, dude, you are literally a part of it.
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Speaker 1: You shut down people when they brought up the cognitive
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Speaker 1: decline of Joe Biden, and you're now trying to act
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Speaker 1: like you're a truth teller after the guy's already out
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Speaker 1: of office. I'm going to play for you longer segments
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Speaker 1: because I want you to hear this conversation and I
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Speaker 1: want you to understand something about Jake, And I think
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Speaker 1: This is the part that you that I do want
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Speaker 1: you to have context for as you're listening. Jake Tapper
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Speaker 1: is extremely sanctimonious. When I worked with him for seven
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Speaker 1: years at CNN, he thinks he's some sort of God's
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Speaker 1: gift to journalism, that he's above reproach, he's better than
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Speaker 1: everybody else, And when he gets nailed on these issues,
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Speaker 1: he's like, well, I've already I've already asked for I've
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Speaker 1: already apologized for this, I've already talked to Laura Trump
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Speaker 1: for the way that I talked to her on my show,
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Speaker 1: and I'm just here trying to get out the facts
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Speaker 1: now with my book Original Sins like it is just.
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Speaker 3: Like like I could, I could throw.
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Speaker 1: Up over the self righteousness in this interview, but I
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Speaker 1: want you to hear it because this is how the
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Speaker 1: media gets away with it. They rewrite history of what
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Speaker 1: they actually did for years as a state sponsored media
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Speaker 1: individual and they sold you any lie. The White House
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Speaker 1: seed them to sell, and then when the house comes
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Speaker 1: crashing down, they're like, let's do real reporting now. So
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Speaker 1: with that being set, take a listener, Megan Kelly Jake
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Speaker 1: Tapper talking on this issue.
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Speaker 5: Jake the criticism has been that you're complaining about a
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Speaker 5: cover up about Joe Biden's mental acuity that failed that
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Speaker 5: right wing pundits saw, the right wing in general saw,
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Speaker 5: that independent media saw and reported on, and that was
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Speaker 5: no mystery even to left wing and so called mainstream
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Speaker 5: reporters who were not fooled but chose willful blindness instead
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Speaker 5: of honest reporting, and that you were part of it.
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Speaker 3: How do you respond.
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Speaker 7: It's a tough and fair question.
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Speaker 9: I would say that Alex and I after election day
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Speaker 9: interviewed more than two hundred people, two hundred mostly Democratic insiders,
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Speaker 9: and all these interviews where almost all of these interviews
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Speaker 9: were after the election, and they justified to themselves what
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Speaker 9: they had done in terms of misrepresenting how the president
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Speaker 9: was not just to me and Alex and other reporters,
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Speaker 9: but also just to each other and to the world
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Speaker 9: and to Democrats into the cabinet, etc. By saying that
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Speaker 9: there was this existential threat of Donald Trump and only
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Speaker 9: Joe Biden could be Donald Trump, and that justified everything
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Speaker 9: in their minds. After that existential threat was over, because
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Speaker 9: the election was over and Donald Trump one they were.
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Speaker 7: We found Alex and myself.
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Speaker 9: Remarkably willing to talk to us, either off the record
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Speaker 9: or on background, or in some cases on the record
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Speaker 9: about what they saw. One of the things that emerged
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Speaker 9: was that there were two Bidens. One was the fine Biden, serviceable, adequate,
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Speaker 9: and the other one was a non functioning Biden. One
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Speaker 9: we saw the night of the debate, and that's the
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Speaker 9: one we saw some clips of here and there that
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Speaker 9: you just showed. And that non functioning Biden, the one
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Speaker 9: that lost his train of thought in a significant way,
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Speaker 9: not in the way just that every human loses their
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Speaker 9: train of thought, but in a way that shows that
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Speaker 9: he's having trouble articulating his very views.
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Speaker 7: And the one who forgot the name.
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Speaker 9: Of close aids, who was not able to come up
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Speaker 9: with George Clooney's name, didn't seem to recognize him. All
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Speaker 9: that sort of thing that non functioning Biden was, according
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Speaker 9: to our reporting, showed up as far back as twenty fifteen,
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Speaker 9: after the death of Bow, where one top aid said
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Speaker 9: that that tragedy, the loss of Bow, was like watching
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Speaker 9: somebody pour water on sand. That was the effect on
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Speaker 9: his psyche. And there were other moments twenty seventeen, twenty
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Speaker 9: eighteen you hear some her report. One of the reasons
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Speaker 9: he came to that conclusion was because of the recordings
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Speaker 9: they heard of Joe Biden in twenty seventeen talking to
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Speaker 9: his ghostwriter, in which he was similarly inclined. Obviously, in
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Speaker 9: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, there were other moments like that.
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Speaker 9: Most of his campaign staff and others would say that
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Speaker 9: he's you look, he's seventy eight, he's seventy nine, he
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Speaker 9: has senior moments, but he's fine, he's fine, he's fine. Well,
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Speaker 9: he wasn't fine, And throughout his presidency, that non functioning
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Speaker 9: Biden would show up more and more and more, and
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Speaker 9: he was worse and worse and worse, really deteriorating tremendously.
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Speaker 9: The next time there was a really horrible family incident,
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Speaker 9: which was when Hunter Biden's plea deal fell apart in
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Speaker 9: the summer of twenty twenty three, and then obviously in
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Speaker 9: June he was convicted, and the thought the fear of
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Speaker 9: losing his son, not to jail, but maybe to another,
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Speaker 9: to a relapse, to an overdose, to a suicide, who knows,
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Speaker 9: was a very real fear, and the threat of losing
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Speaker 9: a third child really just diminished him tremendously, according to
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Speaker 9: top ads. So all of which is to say that
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Speaker 9: this was a deterioration, this was a progression. And look,
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Speaker 9: knowing what I know now, obviously I feel tremendous humility
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Speaker 9: about my coverage that Laura Trump interviewed, for example, et cetera.
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Speaker 9: She saw something, She saw something that I did not
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Speaker 9: see at the time, one hundred percent, and I own that.
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Speaker 7: I did ask Joe Biden.
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Speaker 3: By the way, just pause there.
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Speaker 1: This is the sanctimonious Jake Tapper that is just exhausting
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Speaker 1: to me. He's like, she saw something that at the
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Speaker 1: time that I did not see. What are you joking?
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Speaker 1: Everybody saw it, You just didn't want to believe it.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I don't. There's one thing about Jake Tapper
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Speaker 1: that I want to be queer about. I actually think
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Speaker 1: Jake Tapper is extremely smart. I think he's a really
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Speaker 1: good at lying to you about this one. And the
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Speaker 1: idea that he didn't see the Cogniti decline, it would
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Speaker 1: mean that he's an incredibly stupid person, because only a
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Speaker 1: dumb person would not be able to see it. He
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Speaker 1: saw it, but he didn't want Donald Trump to win,
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Speaker 1: and so he decided I'm going to look the other way.
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Speaker 3: And now he's like, well, she saw something that I
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Speaker 3: didn't see. Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: Like, like, give me a break, Like that is total crap.
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Speaker 1: Jake Tapper, by the way, way too sanctimonious to actually
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Speaker 1: believe this, and.
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Speaker 3: This is his out right. Well, it wasn't that I
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Speaker 3: was covering it up.
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Speaker 1: It's just that I didn't see it, right, it was
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Speaker 1: just that I didn't notice it.
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Speaker 3: Part No, you noticed it. I don't believe that you didn't.
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Speaker 1: I think you're lying to us, and now you're trying
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Speaker 1: to profit and make a and sell books off of
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Speaker 1: a lie that you were a part of.
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Speaker 3: Keep listening.
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Speaker 7: To be transparent about his health records.
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Speaker 9: In an interview in twenty twenty, I did ask him
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Speaker 9: about the fact that voters then he was thought that he.
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Speaker 7: He was not transparent at all.
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Speaker 5: No, he promised you that he would be transparent about
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Speaker 5: his health records.
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Speaker 3: And then he wasn't.
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Speaker 5: And when you sat with him again at all, including
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Speaker 5: one including one month after the Jackie Willorski thing, you
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Speaker 5: didn't ask him about it. You didn't follow up on
26:05
Speaker 5: the fact that he was falling up the stairs, that
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Speaker 5: he was losing his train of thought regularly, that he
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Speaker 5: was slurring, that he was incomprehensible, that he was getting
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Speaker 5: lost on the White House lawn. You sat right across
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Speaker 5: from him, and you asked none of that, notwithstanding the
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Speaker 5: fact that he had promised you he would be fully
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Speaker 5: transparent about his health issues.
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Speaker 1: By the way, this is Megan Kelly, which he just
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Speaker 1: says exactly what I was saying, like, you had an
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Speaker 1: opportunity after you saw this, and you still didn't do
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Speaker 1: jack crap about it. You saw it all and you
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Speaker 1: chose not to do it, and then listen to this
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Speaker 1: BS answer from Jake.
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Speaker 7: That's true.
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Speaker 9: But I did ask him about his age and the
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Speaker 9: fact that the American people had concluded that even though
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Speaker 9: he said whenever anybody brought up the subject of his age,
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Speaker 9: watched me, and I said, yes, they're watching you, and
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Speaker 9: they are concerned that.
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Speaker 7: You get too old for this job.
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Speaker 3: You know as well as I do.
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Speaker 6: That.
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Speaker 5: There's a way of you can say, hey, there's this
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Speaker 5: poll on your age, or you could say you just
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Speaker 5: forgot that Jackie Willerski was dead.
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Speaker 3: You asked where she.
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Speaker 5: Was moments after watching a videotape tribute to her. You
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Speaker 5: lowered the flags at the White House after she died.
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Speaker 5: This happened thirteen days before you sat with him. There
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Speaker 5: is a way of pressing a man like that on
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Speaker 5: the actual infirmities to bring it home to him and
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Speaker 5: to the audience.
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Speaker 1: And you didn't do it, and you didn't do it,
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Speaker 1: and she's exactly right. And that's exactly why Jake Tapper
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Speaker 1: deserves this type of criticism for again now making money
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Speaker 1: off of a book that he is saying, Oh, well,
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Speaker 1: I didn't see it beforehand. You didn't see it beforehand, Like,
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Speaker 1: what the hell are you talking about? You didn't see
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Speaker 1: it before No, I just didn't see it. I just
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Speaker 1: didn't see it at all. I had no idea this
27:46
Speaker 1: was going on. And she saw it before I saw it,
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Speaker 1: referring to Laura Trump, and so you know, I called
27:52
Speaker 1: and apologized to her. So everything's good. Now, Everything's totally
27:56
Speaker 1: fine now. Nothing to see here, nothing wrong here? Are
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