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- 0:00Today's tech news moves fast, but understanding
- 0:03it shouldn't be hard. That's why Snarful Solutions
- 0:06Group brings you Connecting the Dots, where we
- 0:09break down what's happening in tech and why it
- 0:11matters to you. Now let's dive in with your hosts.
- 0:16Hey everyone, hope you had a good restful Memorial
- 0:18Day weekend. Hope you did too. It's Tuesday,
- 0:21May 27th, 2025, and you're listening to Connecting
- 0:25the Dots. We're coming to you from Snarful Solutions
- 0:28Group. right here in Sacramento, California.
- 0:30Yep. And it is a sunny one today, looking like
- 0:33a high of about 90 degrees. Nice day for it.
- 0:36Definitely. Before we jump into the tech news,
- 0:40just a quick look back at the markets from last
- 0:42Friday. That was May 23rd. The Dow Jones closed
- 0:45at 41603 .07 and the S &P 500 finished at 5802
- 0:51.82. Okay. So with that, let's get into our deep
- 0:55dive. We've got three big tech stories today
- 0:57and we'll connect the dots on how they might
- 0:59impact things. Sounds good. First up, pretty
- 1:02significant acquisition making waves. Salesforce.
- 1:05Ah, Salesforce. What are they up to? They've
- 1:07announced they're buying own company. It's a
- 1:09$1 .9 billion deal, all cash. $1 .9 billion.
- 1:13Okay. Own company. They're in data management.
- 1:15Right. Cloud data. Exactly. Cloud data management
- 1:17and protection. They're based out of New Jersey.
- 1:19And this is what? Salesforce's biggest buy since
- 1:21Slack? Yeah, biggest in Slack back in 2021. It's
- 1:25kind of an interesting timing, too. How so? Well,
- 1:27you remember earlier this year, there was all
- 1:29that talk about them maybe acquiring Informatica.
- 1:32Oh, right. That was a much bigger potential deal,
- 1:34but it fell through. It did. So this acquisition
- 1:37of OWN feels maybe more focused, more strategic,
- 1:41perhaps. Makes sense. What's Salesforce saying
- 1:43about it? Well, Salesforce GM Steve Fisher put
- 1:46out a statement really emphasizing their commitment
- 1:48to secure end -to -end data protection. So doubling
- 1:52down on security in the cloud. Seems critical
- 1:55these days. Absolutely. And they actually started
- 1:57back in 2015 as Own Backup. They provide tools,
- 2:02really vital tools, for things like automated
- 2:04backup, disaster recovery, mainly for SaaS applications.
- 2:08Like Salesforce itself, I assume? Yep. Salesforce,
- 2:11but also AWS, Microsoft platforms, the big cloud
- 2:15players. They had raised a good amount of funding,
- 2:17over $500 million. Wow. And they were valued
- 2:19pretty highly a couple years back, around $3
- 2:21.35 billion. There's clearly a big market need
- 2:26here. The whole data backup and recovery sector
- 2:29seems to be booming. Oh, definitely. It was worth
- 2:31what? Almost $13 billion in 2023? Yeah, nearly
- 2:34$13 billion and growing fast to like an 11 %
- 2:37average growth rate year over year for a while
- 2:40now. And you can see why, right? With ransomware
- 2:43threats constantly in the news, data center disasters.
- 2:45Remember that big OVH fire in France? Yeah, that
- 2:48was major. And then you've got increasing regulations
- 2:51like the EU AI Act. putting more pressure on
- 2:54how companies handle data. Right, so own company
- 2:56fits right into that picture. How many customers
- 2:58do they have? They're saying nearly 7 ,000 customers.
- 3:01And it's not just backup anymore. They do data
- 3:04archiving, seeding, security, even analytics
- 3:07now. Pretty comprehensive. Yeah. and own CEO
- 3:09Sam Gutman basically said their tools really
- 3:12complement what Salesforce already offers, makes
- 3:15the whole data protection picture stronger for
- 3:17users. So when does this deal actually close?
- 3:20They're expecting it to close in Q4 of Salesforce's
- 3:23fiscal year 2025. OK, so you mentioned the Informatica
- 3:27thing falling through. Does this one point nine
- 3:30billion dollar deal maybe signal Salesforce is
- 3:33getting back into larger M &A even after they
- 3:35sort of suggested they were backing off big deals?
- 3:37It could. It might mean they're just being more
- 3:40selective targeting key areas like data protection.
- 3:43They did make a couple of smaller acquisitions
- 3:45recently to predict spring and 10x. Right. So
- 3:48maybe a more focused strategy now. Possibly.
- 3:51Yeah. OK. Moving from the cloud. Let's go way,
- 3:54way up to space. SpaceX seems to be making noise
- 3:58about Mars again. Yeah, it sounds like they're
- 4:01really accelerating efforts for a potential Mars
- 4:03mission. Uncrewed, mind you. Uncrewed, right.
- 4:05And possibly as early as 2026. That seems to
- 4:08be the target they're pushing for. Reports suggest
- 4:10they're even moving people around internally.
- 4:12Like shifting resources. Exactly. Moving employees
- 4:15from the Dragon program, which handles crew and
- 4:18cargo to the space station, over to Starship
- 4:20development to speed things up. That's a big
- 4:22commitment, especially after those, well, less
- 4:24than perfect Starship test flights earlier this
- 4:27year. Yeah, the ones in January and March 2025
- 4:29didn't go quite as planned. They were pretty
- 4:33high profile failures or maybe rapid unscheduled
- 4:36disassemblies, as they sometimes say. Aha, right.
- 4:39But it clearly hasn't deterred them. Didn't the
- 4:41FAA just give them the green light for more launches?
- 4:44They did. A big increase, actually. Up from five
- 4:46Starship launches a year to 25. 25. Wow. And
- 4:50they expanded the hazard zones around the launch
- 4:52site, too. One of their engineering execs, Shana
- 4:54Dees, acknowledged on X it was a rough start
- 4:56of the year for Starship. But, yeah, they're
- 4:58pushing ahead. And there's a military angle,
- 5:00too, isn't there? Starfall. Right, Starfall.
- 5:03That's their project for potentially moving large
- 5:05amounts of government cargo, like over 66 ,000
- 5:07pounds. They're expecting more funding for that,
- 5:10about 149 million dollars. So government interest
- 5:12is definitely there in this 2026 Mars timeline.
- 5:18Why then, specifically? Well, partly it's about
- 5:21orbital mechanics. Earth and Mars align favorably
- 5:24for launches about every 26 months. 2026 is the
- 5:27next window. Okay, the launch window. And it
- 5:29also happens to align with some proposed NASA
- 5:32budget shifts under the Trump administration,
- 5:35potentially an extra billion for Mars efforts,
- 5:37though other NASA programs might face cuts. Interesting
- 5:40timing, but technologically it's still a huge
- 5:42leap, right? What are the main hurdles? Oh, massive
- 5:46hurdles remain. In -orbit refueling is a big
- 5:48one. They think they'll need three separate refueling
- 5:51missions in orbit just to get Starship to Mars.
- 5:54Three refuels in space, that's complex. Very.
- 5:57Plus the lunar version of Starship... The one
- 5:59NASA needs for its Artemis mission to the moon
- 6:01in 2027, it's already facing delays. Right. So
- 6:05a lot needs to go right. But this is core to
- 6:07Musk's vision, isn't it? Mars colonization. Absolutely.
- 6:09That's why he started SpaceX. He even mentioned
- 6:12maybe putting Tesla's Optimus robot on that 2026
- 6:14flight. A robot on the first flight. That's the
- 6:17idea. And he's aiming high, talking about sending
- 6:19five uncrewed starships to Mars by 2026. Five.
- 6:23Five. And if those go well, then maybe crewed
- 6:26missions during the next window, which would
- 6:28be late 2028 or early 2029. That feels incredibly
- 6:32ambitious, especially since, as you mentioned,
- 6:35they haven't actually landed Starship back on
- 6:37solid ground yet. Correct. The last test flight
- 6:40ended with a splashdown in the Indian Ocean,
- 6:42which was progress, but Nautiland had landing.
- 6:46Still, Musk talks about exponentially increasing
- 6:48Mars trips, aiming for a self -sustaining city
- 6:51in, what, 20 years? Yeah, that's the long -term
- 6:54vision he paints. Though it's fair to say his
- 6:56timelines for Mars have shifted over the years.
- 6:59Understood. And his voice concerns about bureaucracy
- 7:02slowing things down. He has. Worries about regulations
- 7:05hindering the Starship program. We've already
- 7:08seen NASA's Artemis 3 mission, which needs Starship,
- 7:11get delayed to 2026. And that private lunar trip
- 7:14by the Japanese billionaire Maezawa got canceled
- 7:17too. Right. Just quickly, for anyone maybe less
- 7:19familiar, can you remind us what Starship actually
- 7:21is? Sure. It's basically two parts. The Super
- 7:24Heavy Booster, which is the first stage, and
- 7:26then the Starship spacecraft itself, the upper
- 7:28stage. It's about 165 feet tall. Together, it's
- 7:31the biggest, most powerful rocket ever built.
- 7:34Biggest ever. And the key design goal is full,
- 7:37rapid reusability. They plan to eventually land
- 7:40the super -heavy booster right back on the launch
- 7:43tower using those big arms they call chopsticks.
- 7:45Catching the booster with arms? Wild! How many
- 7:49tests have they done? Four main flight tests
- 7:51so far, each one getting further and achieving
- 7:53more objectives. The next one, flight five, is
- 7:57supposed to be the first attempt at catching
- 7:58the booster with those chopsticks. Okay, definitely
- 8:01want to watch. Let's shift gears for our last
- 8:03story. From hardware in space to software and
- 8:07talent here on Earth, AI talent specifically.
- 8:10Yeah, this one involves Meta and their Llama
- 8:13AI models. There are reports indicating a pretty
- 8:16significant talent drain, you could call it.
- 8:19A talent drain? People leaving. A lot of people
- 8:21leaving, particularly researchers from the team
- 8:23that originally built Llama. Many seem to be
- 8:26heading to competitors, especially a company
- 8:28called Mistral. Mistral, okay. How significant
- 8:30is the string? Well, consider this. Of the 14
- 8:33authors on the original llama paper from 2023,
- 8:36only three are reportedly still at meta. Only
- 8:38three out of 14? Wow, that's substantial. It
- 8:41really is. Losing that many foundational members
- 8:43can definitely pose a challenge, you know, for
- 8:46continuity and future innovation. And Mistral,
- 8:48you mentioned, they're snapping up this talent.
- 8:51Seems that way. Mistral AI is a startup based
- 8:53in Paris. Interestingly, it was co -founded by
- 8:56two former Meta researchers who are key architects
- 8:59of Lama Guillaume Lampel and Timothee Lacroix.
- 9:02Ah, so the founders came from Meta's Lama team.
- 9:05Yep. And now several other Meta alumni work there
- 9:08building out competing open source AI models.
- 9:11This must be happening at a tricky time for Meta's
- 9:13AI efforts too. It seems so. There are reports
- 9:16their biggest planned AI model Codenamed behemoth
- 9:19has been delayed due to some internal concerns
- 9:22and their latest public model llama for Apparently
- 9:25got a bit of a lukewarm reception from developers
- 9:28Some are looking more towards rivals like deep
- 9:31seek or Quinn now So maybe losing momentum and
- 9:33wasn't there a leadership change too? Yes, Joel
- 9:36Pinot who led metas fundamental AI research group
- 9:38fair for eight years stepped down recently Robert
- 9:41fergus has taken over so leadership change talent
- 9:46leaving This really could challenge metas whole
- 9:49open source AI strategy, couldn't it? It could
- 9:52that original llama paper back in 2023 was a
- 9:55big deal It really legitimized these open -weight
- 9:58large language models as serious alternatives
- 10:01to proprietary ones like opening eyes GPT or
- 10:04Google's Paul and they kind of opened the door
- 10:06for that whole movement they did they train llama
- 10:09on public data focused on making it efficient
- 10:11enough to run on like a single GPU, which made
- 10:14it accessible. But yeah, that early lead they
- 10:16had in open source AI might be slipping. And
- 10:18they still don't have a dedicated reasoning model,
- 10:20which seems increasingly important for complex
- 10:22AI. That's another reported gap, yeah. These
- 10:25departures don't help. And these aren't junior
- 10:27people leaving either. The average time the 11
- 10:29departed authors spent at Meta was over five
- 10:31years. So, losing a lot of experience, where
- 10:33are they all going besides Mistral? All over,
- 10:36really. We mentioned Mistral has quite a few
- 10:38Baptiste Rozier, Timothee Lacroix, Marianne Lachaud,
- 10:42Thibaut Lavril, Guillaume Lampel. But others
- 10:45went to Namon Goyle at Thinking Machines Lab,
- 10:48Aurelien Rodriguez to Cohere, Eric Hambro to
- 10:52Anthropic, Armand Jolain to Google DeepMind,
- 10:56Gaudier Isacard to Microsoft AI, Edward Grave
- 10:59to Qtai, another French AI lab. It's a real migration.
- 11:03That definitely highlights how fierce the competition
- 11:06for top AI talent is right now. This could potentially
- 11:10weaken Meta's innovation pipeline down the road.
- 11:12It's a concern, for sure. Meanwhile, they are
- 11:15still working on Llama 4, apparently trying to
- 11:17tune it to address perceived biases, and they're
- 11:20also dealing with that copyright lawsuit. Oh
- 11:22yeah, the one about training data potentially
- 11:24using pirated books. That's the one. A judge
- 11:26is looking into whether it actually harmed the
- 11:28market for authors. So lots going on, but the
- 11:31talent departures are a major storyline. It just
- 11:33shows, you know, in this AI race, holding onto
- 11:35your key people is absolutely critical. No kidding.
- 11:38It's an incredibly competitive landscape. For
- 11:40sure. OK, so let's quickly recap the three big
- 11:42stories from our deep dive today. First, Salesforce
- 11:45making a significant $1 .9 billion move to acquire
- 11:49own company, bolstering its cloud data protection
- 11:52offerings. Then SpaceX really pushing forward
- 11:55with ambitious plans for an uncrewed Starship
- 11:58mission to Mars, targeting 2026 despite challenges.
- 12:02And finally, Meta facing a notable talent drain
- 12:05from its core Llama AI team, with many key researchers
- 12:08moving to competitors like Mishraal, highlighting
- 12:11that intense battle for AI expertise. Right.
- 12:14And all these things, developments in data security,
- 12:16the push for space exploration, the shifts in
- 12:18AI talent, they all connect back and shape the
- 12:21technology landscape we all navigate. Definitely.
- 12:23big shifts happen. Absolutely. Well, that's our
- 12:25time for today. Remember, we are here to help
- 12:28here at Snarful, so reach out on our website
- 12:30if you have any more questions. That's a wrap
- 12:35on today's top stories. Remember, tech doesn't
- 12:38have to be complicated, and we're here to help
- 12:40connect the dots. If you've got questions or
- 12:43want to learn more, visit us at snarful .com.
- 12:47Thanks for listening and we'll catch you next
- 12:49time.