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E154: Feeding a Starving Gen Z w/ Brett Cooper · The Lila Rose Show

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  We were the fastest growing show in conservative media, but we
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  were also one of the fastest growing channels on YouTube at
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  the time, which is just crazy. And we?
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  Hit a million subscribers within.
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  Like 4 1/2 months, just crazy. What was the inspiration getting
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  into child acting? My brother died when I was five
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  years old. Nothing else fueled my spirit
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  the way that being on stage did and the way that performing did.
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  I love storytelling. I love being on stage.
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  Conservatives, I think, don't do a great job on art and on
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  creativity. I think that we look down on a
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  lot of art, but it is such a powerful medium for healing and
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  especially for young people for expressing themselves.
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  COVID, you know, made us rusty. We have this entire generation
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  that was raised in that world, that was raised in the digital
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  world, is now leaving apps and has no idea what to do.
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  Add in Me too, and add in this divide between men and women,
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  where there's such hatred for men I have so much sympathy for
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  them. And then how do we solve this?
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  Yeah, I think. Brett Cooper, welcome to the
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  podcast. Thank you so much.
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  I'm happy. I'm so excited to have you on.
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  OK, So there's a lot to talk about.
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  You are the host of the comments section.
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  Yes, which has taken YouTube by storm over the last few years.
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  It's crazy how big it's grown. Yeah, it's.
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  Congratulations. Thank you.
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  I know so many people who are huge fans of yours, and I'm so
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  grateful that your voice is out there because having a beautiful
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  young woman speaking from conservative values into
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  politics and culture, it's so essential and needed.
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  And because everybody is, I think, wandering around, we're
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  wondering what, where, what is up, what is down.
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  And people are very confused today.
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  So keep it up. You're doing an amazing job.
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  Thank you. I appreciate.
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  It How did you get started with YouTube?
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  What was the inspiration? The inspiration was my work that
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  I was already doing on social media, so I was never a YouTube
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  kid, which I think surprises a lot of people because I'm, you
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  know, obviously very ingrained in the platform now.
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  That's where the majority of my audience is live on YouTube
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  these days. But was never a YouTube kid, was
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  never an Internet kid really. I was an actor for 10 years in
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  Los Angeles prior to starting all of this.
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  So I was definitely in media, which I think is where, you
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  know, my speaking skills and medication skills and my
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  interest in storytelling and connecting with an audience
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  comes from. But was doing that.
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  And then during COVID, I was a student at UCLA, started being a
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  little more forthright about my values and being more
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  intentional about sharing them. Obviously with BLM and COVID, it
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  was, you know, kind of a make or break point.
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  Like I felt like I was called to and needed to lost a lot of my
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  friends. I basically lost the entire UCLA
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  community that I had built with the acting community that I had
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  also built over literally 10 years of living in Los Angeles.
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  And for what? For sharing more conservative
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  values. Can you share what that looked
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  like? I went to UCLA too and I was
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  like a raging pro wafer there. But what did that look like for
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  you to become spoken on conservative values and then get
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  blown? Back that's the thing.
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  It was like not like I was hosting protests or I was not
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  even involved in, you know, YAF or TPUSA.
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  It's so funny. I actually got an e-mail which I
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  need to respond to guys from the UCLA chapter and they're like,
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  we found one of your emails from like 2020 when you were still a
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  student here. Nobody ever responded.
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  But anyway, so funny. But I was not politically
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  engaged at school. It was literally as simple as
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  having a conversation with my group of best friends that I had
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  met through Greek life because I was in a sorority and saying
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  that I was not going to vote for Biden.
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  And we weren't even in the general election.
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  We were in the primaries at this point, and they were debating
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  Bernie Sanders versus Biden. And we had one friend that was
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  like, I think, you know, Bernie's a little too much for
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  me. Her father was a, you know, just
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  a little roster. Yeah.
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  And she's like, I don't know. And that started a whole
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  kerfuffle in our friend group. And I was like, oh, my gosh, if
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  this is causing drama, just that she's not voting for Bernie and
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  that she's voting for this, like establishment Dem, what are they
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  going to think when I say I'm not voting for either of them?
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  And so I kind of dipped my toe in when they all, like, looked
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  at me and I was a deer in headlights.
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  And it was like, the entire thing just broke apart.
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  And I mean, at that point, they became.
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  So we were still friends, which is the weird part.
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  Like, I was going to live with these people in my senior year,
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  and we were still friends. We still engage with one
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  another. We were, you know, this was
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  during COVID. We were on Zoom calls, like
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  every night with each other, like debriefing class and, you
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  know, playing all the, you know, online games.
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  We were flying during COVID. But it became so passive
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  aggressive and angry to the point that there were texts sent
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  in our group chat of saying, like, just saw a Trump supporter
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  driving around. I told my dad that he should hit
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  him and he would have like no regrets.
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  Did you affirmatively say you were supporting Trump?
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  OK. And this was these are your
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  sorority sisters? Yeah.
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  And our in my mail message. This is a challenge with a
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  sorority. I dipped my toe in a sorority.
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  I did it for like 4 months when I was at UCLA.
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  What sorority were you in? It was 80 Pi.
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  OK, I was Kappa. Delta OK yeah, so but I but I
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  left because I deactivated Yeah. Because I realized I love the
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  concept of like a sisterhood altogether but I realized so
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  quickly that this is a sisterhood only in certain
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  terms, yes. And otherwise it's otherwise
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  it's there's no substance to the friendship it really is.
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  We agree like a contract, we agree to be friends if we and
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  it's an outspoken contract if we follow these certain rules
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  politically. Social reason, Yeah, because in
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  that. So that was it like January of
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  2020 and that was my junior year.
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  So then going into my senior year already I was thinking, why
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  am I going to pay my dues to be in an online sorority for my
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  senior year? This is just ridiculous.
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  But I got an e-mail from our house mom that lived in the
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  sorority and she was talking about the election and, and
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  encouraging everyone to register for to vote, which is great.
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  And everybody should register to vote.
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  You should register to vote because it's an important
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  election. But she started off the e-mail
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  that way and then went into a whole dissertation on women's
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  rights and how she was so civically engaged when she was
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  our age and we need to we needed to vote correctly.
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  Meaning abortion, yes. That's the.
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  That's the only reason women's rights is always synonymous with
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  abortion. Which is nonsense, of course,
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  but. And so that was an e-mail that
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  was sent and I had already kind of reached my breaking point
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  because of my experience with my friends and my, you know,
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  sisters. And my big was one of the ones
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  that really like led the charge of this vitriol.
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  And, you know, during BLM, there was this whole like breakdown in
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  our entire, you know, Greek life group chat and our group means
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  that we use. And they were going back and
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  forth about, you know, what statement should Kappa Delta put
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  out about George Floyd and be alone?
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  Like, we're a chapter at UCLA. Nobody cares.
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  Nobody cares at all. But this is actually a story
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  I've never shared before. UCLA sororities, as you know,
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  are very in the public. We're not like in an enclosed
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  campus or anything like that. Meaning you're in Westwood.
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  Yes, you can walk up to a sorority house, and you might
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  think that they're just some, like, LA mansion, but it's where
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  all these girls are living. And so we had been having
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  problems with random crazed homeless men coming up and
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  breaking into sorority homes. And at one point, there was a
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  guy who had gone up to, you know, Kappa, I believe, and then
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  made his way down, but was, like, going to all of the
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  houses. People have been taking photos
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  of him. And a sweet girl in my sorority
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  who literally meant no harm whatsoever sent a picture of a
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  man. And the man in question who had
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  been, you know, terrorizing all these homes was a black man.
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  So she sent a picture of a black man on campus wearing a hoodie
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  that was very similar and said, and she said, I think that this
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  is the guy, I'm going to send this to campus PD.
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  The entire sorority blew up at her.
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  And it was an entire attack on this one young woman because she
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  racially profiled. Even though she had seen him
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  before. Yes, vandalizing.
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  Yes, and it ended up not being the guy, but it looked
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  incredibly similar. And they were just attacking her
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  right and left saying how dare you, You need to understand your
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  biases. They called an entire meeting
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  about her to literally berate her for sending this picture.
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  And it's like, why wouldn't she? She saw a man that looks exactly
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  like this guy wearing a very similar hoodie who also, you
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  know, looked homeless, did not look well.
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  And this is our safety. This man is coming in and
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  breaking into the homes that we live in and it was just
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  insanity. So we had already gone through
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  that and then this letter was sent by our house mom and I was
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  just like, I'm out. I can't do.
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  It well, you're almost graduating at that point, right?
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  Yeah, exactly. So there's no and.
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  It was like COVID and I didn't want to do like Zoom Kappa Delta
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  meetings, so. So how did you become
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  conservative? Where did you find your
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  principles? What created your foundations?
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  It. Was my family.
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  My mother is incredibly, incredibly principled,
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  incredibly values driven. I would say that's kind of how I
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  was raised. We didn't talk about like hard
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  current events or politics around the dinner table, but we
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  talked about ideas. We talked about values and
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  principles. Personal responsibility was
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  probably the most significant thing that drove our family.
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  Freedom, independence and personal responsibility.
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  She was incredibly encouraging of debating ideas.
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  We would come home and I would talk about, you know, the things
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  that I saw on the news or that my friends were sharing
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  experiences that my friends were going through as teenagers,
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  especially in LA and in Hollywood, that were pretty
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  perverse and very mature and not a healthy way.
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  And I was, you know, really trying to understand that and
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  break it down. And so we had, you know, I think
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  that was a real significant turning point for me was being a
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  teenager and realizing that most people did not live by the
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  values that I was, you know, raised in and raised by.
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  Well, you were in LA for a lot of this and you're a child
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  actor, so you're you're already in right there at the front
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  What was the inspiration getting into child acting?
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  I love storytelling, I love being on stage, so I was a going
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  back much further. My brother died when I was five
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  years old and I was a really, really shy kid and that just
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  turned me even more inward. My family just kind of combusted
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  after that and we never really still to this day, we haven't
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  really repaired that family unit after his death.
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  And I would literally go and hide in the kitchen cupboards
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  and just like shut myself in, did not want to speak to people,
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  was not interested in being involved in the chaos.
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  My parents marriage at that point was basically done and
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  falling apart. It already was, but that just
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  kind of was the final straw. My brothers were not doing well
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  and I was very alienated. They both kind of like left one
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  off to college. So I was just alone in this
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  chaos. And my mom was desperate to find
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  some kind of creative medium for me to work through these
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  feelings and have some kind of outlet.
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  And the high school that my brothers had attended, they we
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  still had a lot of friends that were there even after they
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  graduated. And they said, you know, we're
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  doing a production of The Wiz and we want a bunch of little
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  siblings to be the munchkins on stage.
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  And I was like, absolutely not. I do not want to do this.
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  My mom's friends are saying this would be really good for Brett,
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  like just, you know, introduce her to some friends, you know,
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  get her on stage. Maybe she can.
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  Because then I had always like, done ballet and danced.
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  And so I said, no, I'm not. I'm not doing that.
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  I do not want to do that. And then something clicked to my
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  mind and I was like, OK, maybe like, why not literally hiding
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  in the cupboard? Like we would move from like 3
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  different houses. And I was always just hiding
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  myself. And I don't know what changed,
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  but I'm so glad that I, you know, told my mom, OK, I'll go
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  be a munchkin. How long would you hide in the
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  cupboard for? Gosh, like 15 to 30 minutes.
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  I mean, it was just, do you remember?
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  What you were thinking about when you were in the cupboard,
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  just like. Silence and peace, basically.
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  Yeah. And so I think that was my way
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  of coping. Like we lived in this tiny house
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  in Chattanooga, TN, down in the, down in the closer to the
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  downtown area. And it was like the cupboard
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  that I had all of my little like baby kitchen tools and that kind
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  of stuff, you know, make believe kitchen play and would go in
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  there. And then we moved to this house
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  on single mountain in Chattanooga.
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  And there was a super long, it was like a really, really long
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  ranch style house. We had this really long dining
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  room that had built in cabinets. And I would go and I would sit
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  in there. And so yeah, I was literally, I
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  remember having this conversation with my mom as I
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  was like peeking out of the cupboard like, OK, I guess I'll
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  go do this show. But it was, it was like
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  something just woke up inside of me.
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  And I think it was because I got, it was a healthier kind of
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  escape because I was able to pretend to be somebody else and
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  live somebody else's experiences.
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  And the community was incredible as a young person.
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  And it was like when I went on stage, I was just like a
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  different person and just lit up.
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  So I just wanted to do as much of that as possible.
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  So the theater department at this high school continued to do
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  that where they would bring in, you know, younger siblings and
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  kids to play little parts in their role in their shows.
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  So I would do that. And then I started doing
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  community theatre and it just kept snowballing to where I was
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  like, I want to do more and more and more.
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  And I was homeschooled, so I had the time and the flexibility to
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  do that. So I was dancing, I was doing
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  singing lessons. You know, I would beg my mom to,
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  you know, drive me to Atlanta to do this.
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  Like repertory theatre they're in, they're doing Annie.
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  I really want to do Annie. And then I wrote.
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  When it got professional was when I did my first paid job was
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  doing opera at the Atlanta Symphony and Opera.
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  It was in La Boheme. I was like 8.
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  And then I wrote a letter to a manager in New York City because
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  I had seen that he managed a lot of the young women who were in,
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  you know, Mary Poppins and in the New Annie.
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  And at the time, Billy Elliott was huge on Broadway.
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  So he represented a lot of these young actors.
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  And so I wrote him a letter and I drew a picture of myself on
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  Broadway literally at like 10 years old.
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  And I said, I want to do this. And I flew up there.
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  I auditioned for him. And so he wrote back.
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  He did. He did, He wrote.
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  It's. Like I love this.
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  Girl, yeah, exactly. This is this is like the most
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  ridiculous thing I've ever seen. It was a huge piece of art.
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  And so you it was like a drawing.
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  It was. Was it a painting or a drawing?
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  It was like a multimedia art, like I had like curtains on it
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  and it was the whole thing. And he represented me for, gosh,
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  like 12 years, I think, until I stopped acting during COVID.
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  And he had that over his desk the entire time because he was
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  like, nobody did anything like that but Bezos.
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  Very precocious. I think this the question that a
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  lot of people ask is, you know, did your mom push you into this?
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  Why would your mom put you into, you know, child acting?
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  She was very apprehensive, did not want me to do it.
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  But nothing else fueled my spirit the way that being on
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  stage did and the way that performing did.
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  And she always said my brother who passed away as David, and
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  she always said, you know, if David had wanted to do something
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  and I knew that I only had 17 years with him, what I have,
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  would I have taken him to Atlanta?
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  Would I have taken him to New York to do this?
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  How old was he when he passed away 17?
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  Yeah, he had a heart attack. And so that's the reason why we
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  did all of this. And I think it was kind of an
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  escape for her as well because it was healing to be able to do
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  that with a child. And my parents marriage was
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  already kind of falling apart. And so it kind of gave them
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  distance in a way because we were traveling and I would go
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  back and see my dad and then, you know, go back out on the
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  road. How did it help you deal with
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  the death of your brother to do acting?
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  Because I got to work through the emotions that I was too
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  scared to and I'm not equipped enough to deal with in my own
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  personal life through a safe environment.
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  It was like I could go on stage and play a different 12 year old
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  girl who's going through things and I was in a safe environment
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  to express those emotions that I didn't feel safe enough to
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  express at home. And that's why I think that, you
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  know, conservatives, I think that we don't do a great job on
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  art and on creativity. I think that we look down on a
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  lot of art, but it is such a powerful medium for healing and
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  for especially for young people for expressing themselves.
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  That's why make believe is so important for young people and
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  your imaginations is so important.
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  So I got to do that on literally like a very like large scale of
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  big stage. And so I think, you know, the
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  same way that imagination and play is so important for young
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  people like that at a very high level was what it was for me.
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  What was your favorite role to play and why?
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  It's a terribly hard question. One of.
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  One of Yeah, I loved playing Trailer Parker in the remake of
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  Heather's that I did with Paramount.
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  That was one of the last big things that I did before I
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  stopped acting. I was in 2018-2019, I think, and
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  that show really radicalized me and red pilled me in a way about
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  Hollywood that nothing else had before.
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  Because we were slated to come out right before the OR right
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  after the Parkland shooting happened.
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  And if you know Heather's, it's a very dark movie and the show
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  was very, very dark guns in schools.
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  It was flipping a lot of things in woke culture on its head to
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  basically prove that comedy should be politically incorrect.
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  The entire premise was that the and I'll talk about the role in
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  a minute, but the three headers in the original movie are these
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  skinny white girls. They are the click.
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  They flipped it on their head, on its head for this television
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  remake and they made the three headers be a larger body
• 17:51
  positive girl, a black woman and a non binary person.
• 17:56
  And they were the mean people. They were the ones that were
• 17:58
  like ruling the roost of high school.
• 17:59
  So this was like so ahead of its time in, you know, 20/17/2018.
• 18:02
  Did you get involved with the show because you already had
• 18:05
  conservative leanings or how did you?
• 18:06
  End up just no, it was by fate really.
• 18:09
  I would just like it was just another project that I was
• 18:11
  auditioning for and ironically my role of trailer Parker.
• 18:15
  She was originally called Martha Dump truck in the original
• 18:18
  movie, and so she was a fat girl who got hit by a school bus in
• 18:22
  the original movie. But because being fat is not
• 18:26
  something that's glorified, they made one of the Heathers fat and
• 18:29
  instead they made me the poor religious pro-life girl.
• 18:32
  So ironically, I was playing this pro-life girl and that was,
• 18:35
  you know, my character is the one who get rid like ridiculed
• 18:38
  throughout the entire show is made fun of because she's
• 18:41
  religious. And I saw I saw the clip of of
• 18:43
  you in that film. You were absolutely adorable.
• 18:46
  You were like in a stadium and I think you're being berated by
• 18:49
  someone. And I was like, she's so cute
• 18:52
  right now. It's so sad and it's so sad.
• 18:54
  Yeah. And so it was a very fun.
• 18:56
  Role that was almost like probably prepared you for your
• 18:58
  time at UCLA it. Did it?
• 19:00
  Literally did. And so that was an amazing
• 19:02
  project. I love the people that I worked
• 19:04
  with. I think that it was really
• 19:05
  important for that cultural moment, and it's really
• 19:07
  disappointing that Paramount was not brave enough to actually put
• 19:11
  it out because they ended up butchering the entire show and
• 19:14
  they cut out basically everything that was offensive.
• 19:16
  They cut an entire episode and then they just kind of pushed, I
• 19:20
  think it was, you know, 2018 or 2920, nineteen over Halloween.
• 19:23
  They did like, oh, it's a spooky and a politically incorrect
• 19:25
  show. And then just, you know, put it
• 19:26
  away. You can pirate the entire thing
• 19:28
  if you want to watch it, which ironically the creator often
• 19:30
  talks about. He's like, if you want to see my
• 19:31
  show that, you know, is not but sure, and you can pirate it.
• 19:34
  So I loved it for that reason because it really woke me up and
• 19:39
  it empowered me in a lot of ways.
• 19:41
  And it's the thing that kind of pushed me out of acting because,
• 19:45
  number one, I realized how cowardly they are and how afraid
• 19:50
  they are to put out good art that actually would make people
• 19:53
  think. That would actually make people
• 19:54
  question their biases and their premises work.
• 19:58
  That is actually funny. They were so scared to put it
• 20:01
  out there. And I also hated, just on a
• 20:03
  personal level, the fact that I had no control over.
• 20:07
  In my career, because I had, you know, been in the show and all
• 20:10
  of our agents and managers had basically said, like, this is
• 20:12
  your star. They call it like a star
• 20:13
  vehicle. Like this is your like, breakout
• 20:15
  role. We had all been on hold.
• 20:17
  There was already a Season 2 plan that we were already booked
• 20:19
  for and contracted for. And all of it just went away
• 20:23
  because these people were so afraid and cowardly.
• 20:25
  And I just thought, I cannot live my life at the whim of
• 20:29
  people who, you know, do not have my best interests at heart,
• 20:31
  who I also, you know, seriously disagree with and not having any
• 20:35
  control over when a project comes out, who sees my work when
• 20:39
  I'm going to be making money. So that was a big push away from
• 20:42
  me that pushed me more into production.
• 20:44
  So while I was at UCLA, I was like, OK, I'm not going to act
• 20:46
  anymore. I'm going to go be a producer or
• 20:47
  director. I saw that the, you know, the
• 20:50
  politics and the book, and this is still there.
• 20:51
  And, you know, that had ruined that side of the industry as
• 20:53
  well. So I kind of just, you know,
• 20:56
  wiped my hands of it in 2021 and had to figure out something else
• 20:59
  to do. So I know you sent a video into
• 21:01
  Daily Wire, Yes. Tell us about that video and
• 21:04
  what was the, what was the impetus behind that?
• 21:06
  And did you ever think when you were sending that initial video
• 21:10
  to Daily Wire, when they did their own casting call, that you
• 21:13
  would be where you are now? I had no idea.
• 21:15
  So I, it was a really weird period in my life where I felt
• 21:20
  the most unlike myself because I had, you know, I had been acting
• 21:23
  for 10 years and it was everything I knew my entire
• 21:25
  childhood. My identity was wrapped up in it
• 21:28
  so at the time I decided to go to law school cuz I was an
• 21:30
  English major and of course doing English majors.
• 21:32
  Do you take the outside and go to law school?
• 21:33
  So I get. Count make the major.
• 21:35
  Exactly. Exactly.
• 21:36
  And so I was late. I was gonna do a JD, MB, A
• 21:39
  program at Boise. Boise or no, Idaho University,
• 21:44
  University of Idaho. I can't speak.
• 21:46
  And I withdrew the first day of my orientation and I just
• 21:49
  thought, I can't do this. This is not what I'm meant to be
• 21:51
  doing. I'm not meant to be an attorney.
• 21:52
  I wanted to go and do two way law.
• 21:54
  And I felt, you know, really called to get civically engaged.
• 21:58
  And I talked to a couple, you know, constitutional liars who
• 22:01
  said you should not what you should be doing.
• 22:03
  Your talents are better used elsewhere.
• 22:05
  So I felt really, really lost. And I was doing videos for
• 22:08
  Prager UI, was working as a copywriter for the fundraising
• 22:12
  department of YIL. So I was using my English major
• 22:16
  and I was writing and doing videos for a foundation for
• 22:19
  economic education. So I was in this social media
• 22:20
  space and a couple of my videos had made their way to Daily
• 22:25
  Wire. And so they slid into my DMS,
• 22:26
  literally, and said, would you be interested in, you know,
• 22:29
  setting in an audition and meeting with us?
• 22:31
  I thought that they were looking at like, thousands and thousands
• 22:33
  of girls. They weren't it was a very small
• 22:36
  group and by the time we got to where I was actually sending in
• 22:38
  a video, it was really only me, but I almost didn't send it.
• 22:43
  I almost did not even do the audition.
• 22:45
  They wanted me to send in a like long form reaction video that
• 22:48
  said, we know you can do these like 32nd TikTok videos and
• 22:51
  Instagram shorts, but you know, we want to see you do a long
• 22:55
  form reaction and commentary on this like Logan Paul video, Like
• 22:58
  how can you? And they didn't give me any
• 22:59
  instructions, but it was like, you know, react to some of these
• 23:01
  pop culture things. And basically what I did in that
• 23:04
  video was I related these big pop culture moments that they
• 23:06
  had sent me to react to back to the culture war, back to
• 23:09
  politics, which I'm not sure if that's what they were expecting,
• 23:12
  but that's just what I felt like made sense.
• 23:14
  Like this is actually a great opportunity to be able to
• 23:17
  connect what my generation is seeing and, you know, to try to
• 23:22
  extract some meaning there because nothing that we watch is
• 23:24
  subliminal like or nothing that we watch is innocent.
• 23:27
  There's always a subliminal message that we are receiving
• 23:30
  through every piece of content, through every celebrity comments
• 23:33
  that we engage with. And so being able to extract
• 23:36
  that and share that with people I thought was super important.
• 23:38
  So I thought, OK, this is how I will angle it and approach it.
• 23:41
  And ironically, I had had a little like baby pilot that I
• 23:45
  had put together that I had like shopped around at other like
• 23:48
  conservative organizations basically where I wanted to do a
• 23:51
  show like that, where I wanted to do a reaction show with the
• 23:53
  fast edits, reading comments. And for legal reasons, Daily
• 23:58
  Wire could not accept it. They were like, we can't accept
• 24:00
  a pitch, but you can just tell us about it.
• 24:01
  So they actually never saw that episode, but it basically that's
• 24:05
  what comment section is. And they had had a very similar
• 24:08
  idea. And so it really felt just meant
• 24:10
  to be in very harmonious because I sat in my little audition, I
• 24:13
  met with them, and we were, you know, just riffing on what we
• 24:16
  saw the show being and where the actual need was for young
• 24:19
  people. And it was very cool because the
• 24:22
  entire team that developed my show with me, they're all Gen.
• 24:25
  Z, They're all my age. Some of them aren't at the
• 24:27
  company anymore, but I think the oldest was 24.
• 24:30
  And so this show was created by young people.
• 24:32
  It was created for my generation.
• 24:34
  Obviously, people of all age watch it, but it was
• 24:36
  specifically, you know, filling a niche that we all had felt,
• 24:40
  you know, didn't exist for us growing up, You know, not as
• 24:43
  teenagers, not in college, not now as young adults.
• 24:45
  There was not this type of content that was Internet
• 24:49
  focused, that was, you know, young and fast and digestible
• 24:52
  for young people. And so we created that together.
• 24:56
  But, yeah, I almost did not send in the audition because I
• 24:59
  thought, you know, there's no chance.
• 25:00
  Like, they're looking at thousands of people.
• 25:02
  I'm not worthy of this. I'm not good enough.
• 25:04
  And my mom called me over to her house.
• 25:06
  We were living in Boise at the time.
• 25:07
  Literally yelled on my face because I don't know what you've
• 25:09
  become. And she said this is like the
• 25:10
  most cowardly thing to do, to not even try.
• 25:14
  And she. Yeah.
• 25:15
  What a mom. Yeah.
• 25:16
  And she said, you know, you've been so beaten down by Hollywood
• 25:20
  because you feel like you don't have a place there anymore and
• 25:22
  you've decided that you're walking away from it.
• 25:24
  So you've lack, you know, you don't have that foundation and
• 25:26
  you don't have that as your identity anymore.
• 25:28
  You, you know, just dropped out of law schools, working at a
• 25:30
  waitress as a waitress to actually make my money because
• 25:34
  being a copywriter doesn't pay very well, obviously.
• 25:36
  It's just that you literally have nothing to lose.
• 25:38
  You are being so cowardly. Like, just be bold and send it
• 25:41
  in. I don't care if you don't accept
• 25:42
  the job. I don't care if you don't want
• 25:43
  to move to Nashville. I don't care if you just want to
• 25:45
  stay in Boise and help me work on my farm and live your little,
• 25:48
  like live in your little house and marry a nice Idaho man.
• 25:50
  But you can't live with the regret of not even trying.
• 25:53
  And then so she turned me around and pushed me out, sent me back
• 25:55
  to my house to film the audition.
• 25:56
  And then, yeah, the rest is history.
• 25:58
  So I'm incredibly grateful to her because I definitely, I was
• 26:00
  in a funk and I think I needed to be uncomfortable and scared,
• 26:05
  which I do always try to tell the other people who watch my
• 26:08
  videos that it's good to challenge yourself.
• 26:11
  It's good to feel scared in a healthy way.
• 26:14
  It's good to take risks. You know, when you feel like
• 26:18
  there's a time to, you know, speak out about your values to
• 26:21
  take some big leap, you know, it's usually worth trying to do
• 26:24
  it. But.
• 26:25
  And look at the power of a mom or someone cheering for you saw
• 26:28
  your potential when you didn't see it in that moment because
• 26:31
  you were just beat down like you said, and how incredible that
• 26:35
  that impact that had. So when you started the comment
• 26:37
  section, I remember watching it start and I remember being
• 26:40
  excited that Daily Wire was getting into this and seeing
• 26:42
  you. I was like, this is she's
• 26:44
  perfect. This is going to be amazing.
• 26:46
  And then I was even, I mean, you're highly, highly talented.
• 26:49
  I was amazed how quickly it grew it.
• 26:51
  Was crazy. Tell us about that the early
• 26:53
  days of comment section and. Again, because I wasn't an.
• 26:56
  Internet, it was a phenomenon. Yes, yeah, we were not.
• 26:59
  We were the fastest growing show in conservative media, but we
• 27:02
  were also one of the fastest growing channels on YouTube at
• 27:04
  the time, which is just crazy You.
• 27:06
  Hit a million subscribers within.
• 27:08
  Like 4 1/2 months. Yeah.
• 27:10
  Just crazy. And I think that goes to show
• 27:13
  how needed this was. Like people were just starving
• 27:18
  like I was starving again. Like when I have young women
• 27:22
  come up to me and they say we watch the show, we love what you
• 27:24
  do. It is the most meaningful and
• 27:27
  impactful thing for me because they're, you know, obviously I
• 27:30
  created the show for a lot of different people, but I see
• 27:32
  myself in them because I didn't have this.
• 27:34
  I didn't have somebody who I could turn on and use as like an
• 27:38
  escape and to offer clarity in a very chaotic, you know, upside
• 27:42
  down world. And so to know that that's
• 27:44
  making an impact specifically for women, I'm like, I was you
• 27:46
  and I had, I did not have this. So I'm, I'm so, you know,
• 27:50
  grateful for that. And so I think it's, you know,
• 27:53
  it's really meaningful to know that, you know, me and my team,
• 27:56
  you know, our experiences of needing this kind of content was
• 27:59
  universal. And so I think that's why it,
• 28:01
  you know, picked up really, really quickly.
• 28:03
  And we've just been on a roll ever since.
• 28:05
  I think we're almost at 4.5 million subscribers now and it
• 28:09
  just keeps growing. Amazing.
• 28:11
  Yeah. How do you how do you pick your
• 28:13
  topics? You're you're you're filming
• 28:15
  twice a day, putting out content multiple times a day.
• 28:18
  It's a lot of content. It's a lot of different topics.
• 28:21
  How do you And I think part of the power is your commentary and
• 28:23
  knowing what to speak to. Yes.
• 28:25
  How do you choose what you discuss?
• 28:28
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• 28:31
  wipes company. I love Every Life because this
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  little one and everylife.com is a pro-life company.
• 28:41
  In fact, when you join the Changing Lives Club at
• 28:44
  everylife.com, you will get 10% off your order and you will also
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• 28:53
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• 28:56
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• 28:58
  like Huggies and Pampers are owned by conglomerates that are
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  mom and a baby in need. So I kind of have a couple
• 29:49
  different parameters. It's not really a science per
• 29:52
  SE. I just kind of have gotten into
• 29:53
  a good rhythm where I know what will work and what I can extract
• 29:57
  meaning from. But it literally comes from me
• 30:00
  actually being engaged in social media, which is a double edged
• 30:04
  sword because I'd love to live my life off of social media.
• 30:06
  But I think the effectiveness of the show and of what I talk
• 30:10
  about comes from the fact that I'm actually engaged with what
• 30:12
  the rest of my generation is engaged with.
• 30:14
  Like I'm, I don't want to shy away from TikTok and social
• 30:17
  media and pop culture, which I think a lot of people on the
• 30:21
  right, you know, shun celebrity and say for good reason
• 30:25
  obviously, and kind of look down on that again, sort of how they,
• 30:27
  you know, will look down on art. But I think it's incredibly
• 30:30
  important to be in it and be engaged and meet people where
• 30:33
  they are and they are online. My entire generation is online,
• 30:38
  even if they are not super active on social media.
• 30:40
  Our entire lives are digital. We started dating in a digital
• 30:44
  world. Our school is all online now
• 30:46
  where we apply for jobs, where we work is all online.
• 30:49
  You have to meet them there. So I literally find my topics on
• 30:53
  Tiktok, on Twitter, on Instagram.
• 30:57
  Sometimes there will be an event that is viral that I talk about.
• 31:02
  That's a very easy pick. That's probably the easiest age
• 31:05
  for like, oh, everybody's talking about this.
• 31:06
  There's lots of comments, but my personal favorite type of topic
• 31:11
  and type of video is where I'm able to piece together the
• 31:14
  patterns of a trend. So I have like a, my Slack is my
• 31:19
  for like, you know, business Slack, what you use, you know,
• 31:21
  what companies use. I have one that I just send
• 31:23
  myself and it is the most chaotic thing you will ever see.
• 31:26
  But throughout the week, just throughout life, even like while
• 31:28
  I've been here this weekend with you guys, I send myself videos
• 31:32
  and stories and tweets if they stand out to me.
• 31:35
  And it's like I'm, you know, I keep seeing a similar sentiment
• 31:39
  on a lot of different platforms. I'm just gonna track it.
• 31:41
  Yeah. And I will continue to collect
• 31:45
  those and be able to kind of piece together.
• 31:47
  OK. This is what young women are
• 31:49
  thinking right now. OK.
• 31:50
  This is what a lot of young men are doing online.
• 31:52
  All right? A lot of people are doing this
• 31:54
  trend. What does this actually mean on
• 31:56
  a deeper level? Can I connect this to something
• 31:58
  that is political, that is something that, you know,
• 32:00
  psychologists are talking about? Has Jordan done some lecture on
• 32:03
  this that I can bring in? Again, the goal is to empower
• 32:08
  people with information so that when they are consuming content,
• 32:11
  when they're consuming social media, it's not blind.
• 32:14
  Cuz I think that is where you lose power with yourself.
• 32:18
  I don't know if that's the right way to say it, but if you're
• 32:20
  just scrolling mindlessly, if you're just numb to everything,
• 32:25
  that is when these gross, you know, terrible subliminal
• 32:29
  messages get to you because you don't actually, you're not
• 32:31
  thinking critically about what you're consuming.
• 32:33
  So I want to give you the tools to think about what is this
• 32:35
  trend, this stupid trend on TikTok actually mean?
• 32:38
  What is this saying about gender roles?
• 32:40
  What is this saying about marriage?
• 32:41
  You know, one that I want to do this week that we're kind of
• 32:44
  tracking right now is this increasing trend of women
• 32:48
  talking poorly about their husbands online and doing trends
• 32:50
  at their expense. And not like, oh, funny, funny.
• 32:52
  I pranked my husband, but painting him in a bad light for
• 32:56
  clicks, for views because it is, you know, become trendy to not
• 32:59
  even like your husband. So pulling all of those videos
• 33:03
  and breaking them down, you know, what does that say about
• 33:04
  marriage today? And this like growing divide
• 33:06
  between men and women. So that's my personal favorite
• 33:09
  because I think that number one, it's exciting to me because I'm
• 33:13
  just, you know, as a consumer, as a young woman, I'm consuming
• 33:15
  this content and I'm seeing the patterns.
• 33:18
  And so being able to piece that together for people and say,
• 33:20
  like, you're right, here's here's some meaning, here's, you
• 33:22
  know, let's breakthrough the chaos a little bit.
• 33:25
  So that's my personal favorite. But often it's literally just
• 33:28
  spending hours scrolling and being engaged.
• 33:31
  There's all this research coming out how Gen.
• 33:33
  Z men, at least by I think it's four to six percentage points,
• 33:37
  which is significant over millions of people we're talking
• 33:40
  about. A lot of people are moving
• 33:43
  conservative or attending church more.
• 33:45
  They're pulling more conservatively.
• 33:47
  Their church attendance is up. And then the women, it's either
• 33:51
  down or at least not it's it's lagging behind the men.
• 33:54
  Did you know that American women are the most young?
• 33:57
  American women in my age group are the most liberal group in
• 33:59
  history. Just crazy.
• 34:02
  That is crazy. Yeah, I know.
• 34:03
  So they are for sure moving. So, So what is your take on why
• 34:07
  that is? And then I want to hear to what
• 34:10
  you think how we can solve it. I mean, that's part of the
• 34:13
  project of even the show is like, how do we help solve this
• 34:15
  problem? Because women, I feel like we're
• 34:17
  not, there's not content created to help us, not just
• 34:20
  politically, but it's more relationally.
• 34:22
  It's how we see ourselves, how we see children.
• 34:25
  There's this huge war between US and children, women and
• 34:27
  children, obviously, how we see men, the war between women and
• 34:30
  men. How do we, I mean, how do we get
• 34:33
  there? That's a huge topic.
• 34:34
  I mean, I know you have a take on it.
• 34:36
  How do we get there? And then how do we solve this?
• 34:38
  Yeah. You know, abortion is probably
• 34:42
  the crux of what really drove this wedge.
• 34:45
  And actually, my husband and I were talking about this last
• 34:47
  night in light of your gala and everything that we were, you
• 34:50
  know, talking about with friends who were there.
• 34:51
  But, you know, in this election specifically, we're talking a
• 34:54
  lot about the economy and immigration, foreign affairs,
• 34:56
  and those are all, you know, very real issues.
• 34:58
  And they're very tangible for a lot of people.
• 35:00
  And so I think that that is what people are really leaning into.
• 35:04
  And that's what they're voting on, which is important, and
• 35:06
  that's good. But abortion, it's not just
• 35:09
  about, you know, the murdering of a life.
• 35:12
  Like the values that have allowed that to be so prevalent,
• 35:15
  I think are also the values that have caused this wedge between
• 35:18
  men and women because it is feminism.
• 35:19
  It is the, you know, I am not just equal to men, but I also
• 35:24
  want to be better than men. And I deserve more because I'm a
• 35:26
  woman and because I have been oppressed.
• 35:29
  I deserve exceptions. I deserve to live above the law
• 35:32
  because I am a woman. It's incredibly selfish.
• 35:34
  I think that a lot of modern women are incredibly
• 35:37
  narcissistic, are incredibly selfish, which is so hard to say
• 35:40
  as a woman and it breaks my heart to say that.
• 35:43
  But that is what I experience on a daily basis.
• 35:45
  That's what I see men hate that most men these days hate
• 35:49
  feminism. And young men are also
• 35:52
  exhausted. I actually tweeted this couple
• 35:54
  of weeks ago and I got so much Flack for it.
• 35:56
  But I tweeted a text that my husband sent me and he said, you
• 36:00
  know, I get called a white supremacist, a racist, a bigot,
• 36:04
  a far right extremist and all I want to do is just work out, see
• 36:09
  my wife, have dinner with my wife, do my job and win in
• 36:11
  fantasy football this week. That's like, I'm just a normal
• 36:14
  guy. That's all I'm trying to do and
• 36:16
  just by existing. Who's calling him that, by the
• 36:19
  way? Just it's like the people
• 36:21
  online. Meaning the stereotype of.
• 36:22
  Yeah, it's the Yeah, it's not him.
• 36:24
  But it's like if you're a guy who is a traditional man, yeah,
• 36:27
  and you're a bad guy. Sis, Yeah, white man.
• 36:29
  And you know, you see women. Look what happened to Harrison
• 36:32
  Bucker. Exactly.
• 36:33
  And I and I think there's good and healthy debate between how
• 36:35
  he worded some things because, yeah, of course, you know, he's
• 36:38
  not there to give the perfect speech about what it means to be
• 36:42
  a young person. He's sharing from his own heart,
• 36:44
  his own experience. And that's what he did.
• 36:46
  And he said, that's what I'm doing, by the way, I'm can't
• 36:47
  speak to everybody. And he wasn't allowed to do that
• 36:51
  for a lot of people. It's like you, how dare you have
• 36:54
  this more traditional setup and your your poor wife.
• 36:57
  And I think his wife is very happy with their their marriage
• 37:00
  by all accounts. And he's sharing and honest
• 37:03
  stage about how much he honors her, which is a beautiful thing.
• 37:06
  But I think that was missed because he was fitting this
• 37:09
  stereotype that unfortunately a lot of people see as just a
• 37:12
  horrible person to be, which is that man who's married the
• 37:15
  breadwinner doing the more. Traditional, traditional, yes.
• 37:18
  And so I think that, you know, my husband says that when young
• 37:21
  men experience that, it's not attacks directly against them,
• 37:24
  which, granted, many of them have been, you know, have faced
• 37:27
  those attacks, whether it be on social media or in real life on
• 37:29
  college campuses because that happens a lot.
• 37:31
  But it's watching figures like Harrison Butker.
• 37:34
  It's watching, you know, going on social media and seeing women
• 37:36
  walk through the streets in, you know, the pink pussy hats with
• 37:39
  signs saying, you know, eradicate men.
• 37:42
  Like, no wonder they're moving towards the right.
• 37:44
  It is a rejection of everything that you are pushing.
• 37:46
  They're exhausted by these women saying that you are worthless,
• 37:51
  that they are toxic, that every fiber of their being you know is
• 37:56
  hurting the world. Or that they can't win.
• 37:58
  It's like, how dare you not open the door for me?
• 38:00
  You're so rude. Or how dare you not make special
• 38:03
  accommodations for me because I am a woman.
• 38:05
  And by the way, women should have special accommodations
• 38:08
  because we do something that men don't do a little different.
• 38:11
  We can have children. And that's a very important
• 38:13
  societal role that only women should have and have.
• 38:16
  But then on the one hand, it's like, how dare you not accommod
• 38:18
  accommodate me. And on the on the other hand,
• 38:20
  women are mad for the accommodation.
• 38:22
  Like, why are you treating me any different?
• 38:24
  Why are you opening the door? Why are you paying for the
• 38:26
  dinner? And so that man is thinking,
• 38:29
  what do I do? I can't please anybody.
• 38:30
  You can't please. You're unpleasable in this, in
• 38:33
  this moment. So I think it's a big rejection
• 38:35
  and I think that that has caused a wedge.
• 38:37
  And you know, again, the same things that dictate women
• 38:43
  believing that abortion is permissible and empowering are
• 38:46
  the same things that I think have driven men away.
• 38:49
  It's those same values. It's the same premises of I am
• 38:52
  again above the law. I am better than you.
• 38:54
  I deserve more than you. I deserve to have my way,
• 38:56
  regardless of who it hurts. Have you found an effective line
• 39:00
  of communication to help women like that, to help them see?
• 39:04
  Because I know you said they're selfish, they're narcissistic.
• 39:07
  And yeah, but I think they're just, they're confused.
• 39:09
  There's a ton of woundedness. And if you're taught your whole
• 39:12
  life that you are a victim, yes, and that you need special
• 39:16
  treatment, but the special treatments you're taught aren't
• 39:18
  actually the right ones. And it's all there's so much
• 39:20
  confusion, right? How does someone help that group
• 39:23
  of women? How do?
• 39:24
  We, how do we help? The most effective thing that I
• 39:28
  have found, especially on the abortion issues, number one,
• 39:31
  talking about the lives that women are fed about it being
• 39:34
  healthy, about it being a good thing.
• 39:36
  So I think the work that you do, I mean your work was
• 39:38
  transformative in me becoming pro-life because I was not
• 39:40
  always pro-life, but I had never actually seen what an abortion
• 39:43
  was. And I think for women who are so
• 39:45
  emotionally driven, watching that take place and hearing
• 39:48
  that, it was heartbreaking. I was like, I cannot believe
• 39:51
  that I ever thought that this was OK.
• 39:53
  And I never believed that it was morally OK.
• 39:55
  It was kind of like, I would never do that.
• 39:56
  But it's not my place to tell a woman what to do.
• 39:59
  I was just, you know, very libertarian in that sense.
• 40:01
  And then I actually watched one of your videos and listened and
• 40:06
  just, it was so it was such an emotional reaction of, oh, I
• 40:09
  know, you know, I think it was very maternal.
• 40:10
  And I could never do that. And nobody should be able to do
• 40:13
  that. And so I think.
• 40:14
  That also with the health ramifications of abortions, both
• 40:19
  mentally and physically for men that we just do not talk about.
• 40:23
  And it's basically like here, this is this amazing, empowering
• 40:25
  thing. And if you die from this, if you
• 40:27
  have lasting regret and mental illness from this, if you have
• 40:30
  raging anxiety for decades over this, we don't care.
• 40:33
  You know your story is not important.
• 40:37
  The problem wasn't the abortion. It's always something else.
• 40:40
  So it's. What the Republicans are doing?
• 40:41
  Well, yeah. The problem is the Republican or
• 40:44
  the problem is the people shaming you.
• 40:46
  I mean, this is where it gets really deceptive because women
• 40:50
  are told if you feel abortion regret, that's because there's
• 40:53
  stigma. We have to destigmatize it.
• 40:54
  So we need to say abortion is great, have as many as you want.
• 40:56
  Like that is the only logical conclusion of legalized abortion
• 41:00
  being totally OK is it has to have 0 sadness, 0 shame attached
• 41:04
  to it. But you can't unrute the fact
• 41:06
  that this is a human life like that is the reality.
• 41:08
  That's a fact. And so somewhere there's going
• 41:10
  to be an emotional baggage. There's going to be emotional
• 41:13
  baggage from that one way or another.
• 41:16
  And we're told you're not allowed to have emotional
• 41:17
  baggage. And so they that is the constant
• 41:20
  confusion of I think the post abortive woman today is she
• 41:23
  doesn't know where to place the pain.
• 41:25
  Yeah, and it's a wonderful way to say it.
• 41:27
  And it's just heartbreaking the fact that most of these women
• 41:29
  are, you know, hung out to dry after the fact.
• 41:32
  So I think sharing those stories and sharing the emotional side
• 41:35
  of it has been very effective as I know that you have, you know,
• 41:39
  seen with your audience and the people you know whose minds
• 41:42
  you've changed, just like mine. And the other thing for women in
• 41:44
  more of a broader sense, is showing out the inconsistencies
• 41:49
  in their rage, the inconsistencies and what they've
• 41:51
  been taught to believe. Where it's like, yes, you've
• 41:54
  been told that you're, you know, a victim for your entire life,
• 41:57
  yet simultaneously you've been told that you're a Princess.
• 41:59
  It doesn't. Like you can't have it both
• 42:01
  ways. And you're a warrior like you
• 42:03
  are the Marvel character. Yes, exactly.
• 42:05
  You don't need the men anymore. Yeah, you don't need the men
• 42:07
  anymore. You are the hero and you're also
• 42:09
  the victim. Yeah.
• 42:10
  And so I think pointing that out and that's easier said than done
• 42:14
  and it's really a daily journey that I, you know, want to, you
• 42:18
  know, do on comments section with the stories that I tell.
• 42:20
  But pointing that out, I think is really important.
• 42:24
  And then also going back to personal responsibility and
• 42:28
  really hammering in that it's like you genuinely believe that
• 42:30
  you are above the law in so many ways, that you are above, you
• 42:34
  know, cultural norms. And so again pointing out the
• 42:37
  the inconsistency. We were just talking before the
• 42:39
  show here about the Call Her Daddy podcast and Kamala Harris
• 42:43
  was just on it this past week. So we're kind of dating the
• 42:46
  episode right now, but we're filming in early October and
• 42:49
  they were talking back and forth, girl talk or whatever.
• 42:52
  You know, Kamala Harris, of course, is the most raging pro
• 42:54
  abort of, of any candidate in my lifetime.
• 42:57
  And there was this, you know, undertone that there was, she
• 43:00
  was the, you know, women are the victims because they can't have
• 43:02
  abortions and everything else. But you made a really
• 43:04
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  Yes. So the thing that has gone the
• 44:54
  most viral from that entire episode, we'll see, you know,
• 44:58
  where it goes after the fact. But just so you know, 24 hours
• 45:00
  after the episode has aired, the most viral clip is Alex Cooper
• 45:04
  saying, you know, is there a law in the US government that gives,
• 45:08
  you know, you as president control over a man's body and
• 45:11
  calls like, no. And it's this like whole
• 45:14
  bombshell clip and has millions and millions of views now, which
• 45:17
  is so ridiculous because #1 every law impacts our bodily
• 45:22
  autonomy. I can't go up on the street and
• 45:24
  punch somebody. I can't murder somebody.
• 45:26
  I can't drive drunk. I can't ingest drugs on the
• 45:30
  street. In most states.
• 45:32
  That all impacts our bodily autonomy.
• 45:34
  That impacts men and women similarly.
• 45:37
  Also, the draft is the most significant one for men.
• 45:41
  And people often say, well, it's not the same.
• 45:43
  It's not the same. It is.
• 45:44
  And it's so different because, and this is something that I
• 45:47
  posted last night, you know, my husband who is eligible for the
• 45:51
  draft, he has no control over what the president is doing.
• 45:55
  He has no control over what wars we get involved.
• 45:58
  And he has no control over whether his number gets picked.
• 46:00
  He has no control over whether he gets to sign up, but he has
• 46:03
  to. But women, 99% of the time,
• 46:06
  ignoring that 1% that is rape and incest, 99% of the time
• 46:10
  you've willingly and knowingly engage in an act that could
• 46:14
  create a child that is that did not like accidentally happen to
• 46:19
  you. So that is not an attack.
• 46:21
  I mean, that is not the same. You cannot compare it.
• 46:23
  And to say to, you know, to throw away the draft and say
• 46:26
  that doesn't impact men. Yes, it does.
• 46:27
  And they have no control. Women, you have control over the
• 46:30
  situation. You keep your legs closed or you
• 46:32
  only have sex when you, you know, would be comfortable
• 46:35
  having a child with this man. It is so, so simple.
• 46:38
  And so again, pointing out those inconsistencies in the
• 46:41
  hypocrisy, I think when you reach women in that way, a lot
• 46:46
  of them are smarter than I think we think.
• 46:48
  And I think that they've just been, you know, pushed into this
• 46:50
  ideology because it's, you know, it feels good.
• 46:53
  It feels good to, you know, be a feminist and, you know, feel
• 46:57
  victimized and oppressed. And that gets you brownie points
• 46:59
  in the society. Oppression is, you know,
• 47:02
  financially and emotionally bountiful in this society.
• 47:06
  But pointing out how wild and inconsistent that is, I think
• 47:12
  it's so important. But the the draft comparison, it
• 47:14
  just especially now being newly married and being, you know,
• 47:17
  worried about world wars and our, you know, you know, foreign
• 47:20
  affairs, it's like, how do I like never think about that
• 47:23
  before? So yeah.
• 47:24
  Well, it's crazy because you can have there are criminal
• 47:26
  penalties against a man who induces abortion, Yes, meaning,
• 47:29
  and not the abortionist, if they're paid to do it by the
• 47:31
  woman, it's totally legal. But if you're Scott Peterson and
• 47:34
  you murder your wife and she's pregnant with your child and
• 47:36
  you're also murdering your child, then you can get double
• 47:39
  the double homicide charges and you can go to jail or you can
• 47:43
  get the even potentially the death penalty.
• 47:45
  Yeah, for killing your unborn baby and it.
• 47:48
  But if you're the mom and you kill the unborn baby, it's no
• 47:51
  longer a baby. It's no longer it's empowerment.
• 47:53
  And so again, that double standard that you're speaking to
• 47:55
  between the treatment of men and women in our culture, which
• 47:58
  drives the gender wedge, the gender division that we're
• 48:02
  seeing because there's double different treatment.
• 48:04
  And what's so ironic about all of it, Brett, is that there
• 48:06
  should be different treatment in society, at least.
• 48:09
  I mean, laws, I think should be largely speaking gender neutral
• 48:13
  in how we treat, you know, the sexes.
• 48:15
  But we there are different roles that men and women play.
• 48:18
  You recently got married. Congratulations.
• 48:20
  How's marriage treating you? It's amazing.
• 48:22
  It's OK. I say this now every time, but
• 48:23
  it's the best thing, you know, I've ever done, we've ever done.
• 48:26
  It's incredible all the lies that women are told about, you
• 48:29
  know, you're settling down, you're being controlled.
• 48:32
  This won't give you fulfillment. It's, I mean everyday, you know,
• 48:36
  that's rejected in my life. So one thing you talk about on
• 48:38
  your show sometimes is dating. Yes.
• 48:41
  And we were talking before about your your comments section and
• 48:44
  how it's helped people find love.
• 48:46
  Share about that. And I do want to ask you about
• 48:49
  it's healing that part of the country, because I do think
• 48:52
  people are just starving for a relationship and they're
• 48:54
  struggling to find it. Yes, so I was telling Lila this
• 48:57
  before the podcast, but I have literally had people meet, get
• 49:02
  into relationships and get married from a comment section,
• 49:04
  which is just the craziest thing.
• 49:05
  And I'm so grateful and that means so much.
• 49:08
  I've been invited to the weddings.
• 49:09
  I've, you know, been sent the invitations, which is so cool,
• 49:11
  but asked to be a bridesmaid, which I'd love to do at some
• 49:14
  point. You know, the most frequent
• 49:17
  question that I get is how do I meet something as somebody?
• 49:19
  And it comes from both men and women.
• 49:21
  It's how do I meet them? Where do I meet them?
• 49:24
  And I realized by, you know, going through those comments and
• 49:27
  talking to people and doing, you know, Q&A's and we'll often do
• 49:30
  like ask Brett for advice and we'll talk about this.
• 49:31
  I realized and I then I thought about my own experiences.
• 49:34
  Gen. Z doesn't know how to date
• 49:36
  because we, our entire lives are online.
• 49:39
  My first any experience of being asked out and flirting with a
• 49:44
  guy in high school, getting into my first little like baby
• 49:47
  relationship situation ship when I was like 16 years old.
• 49:50
  It was all done online. It was through text, Instagram,
• 49:53
  Snapchat. And then when I went to college
• 49:56
  and I joined my sorority, it was like, how have you never been on
• 49:59
  Tinder? I'm like, I'm 17 years old.
• 50:01
  Like I haven't like obviously I haven't been on Tinder, but
• 50:03
  everybody else was. And so then you make dating apps
• 50:06
  my first and only real, like long term boyfriend that I had
• 50:10
  before meeting Alex, I met on Hinge.
• 50:13
  And that is a totally different world.
• 50:15
  But now, you know, over the last few years, young people
• 50:19
  especially are getting, you know, more and more unhappy with
• 50:23
  dating apps. The algorithms are set up
• 50:25
  against you, the apps, just because they're a business.
• 50:27
  Their goal is to keep you on the apps.
• 50:29
  Like Hinge's slogan, I think is the dating app that's designed
• 50:33
  to be deleted. It's not they literally, they'll
• 50:35
  like hide the, you know, the attractive users behind their
• 50:39
  pay wall, which is, and they've, you know, admitted to that, that
• 50:42
  you can kind of like see through the like they give, like you'll
• 50:44
  be swiping and it's like you can unlock this with 1 rose and it's
• 50:47
  like a really attractive person, but you have to pay to get it.
• 50:50
  And Tinder has, you know, these exclusive, you know, things
• 50:53
  that's like $500 that you can pay for in order to maybe meet
• 50:56
  somebody. So it's all it's gamified as
• 50:58
  well because you just swipe and you swipe and you swipe.
• 51:01
  And men and women are on dating apps in different levels.
• 51:05
  There's significantly more men than there are women.
• 51:07
  Men and women swipe differently on apps.
• 51:09
  So it's it's there is very little success, especially now.
• 51:12
  So we have this entire generation that was raised in
• 51:15
  that world, that was raised in the digital world, is now
• 51:17
  leaving apps and has no idea what to do.
• 51:20
  Like genuinely does not know how to flirt, does not know how to
• 51:22
  approach women. And especially for men, you
• 51:25
  know, I have so much sympathy for them because number one, I
• 51:28
  mean, just asking a girl out and approaching is so terrifying.
• 51:31
  Just regardless of of the cultural, you know, tone,
• 51:35
  regardless of me too, like it was already very scary.
• 51:38
  And then add in me too and add in this divide between men and
• 51:41
  women where there's such hatred towards each other, obviously
• 51:44
  it's just going to be even worse.
• 51:45
  So literally do not even know how to, you know, approach it.
• 51:49
  So what I've been talking about, I can tell your viewers, is that
• 51:52
  I think that the healthiest way to go about it is literally to
• 51:56
  create patterns and habits and like activities that you were
• 52:00
  doing on a weekly basis. Because it is so much easier to
• 52:03
  approach somebody. It's so much easier to get
• 52:05
  comfortable engaging with the opposite sex and maybe dipping
• 52:08
  your toe into flirting if it is a comfortable environment for
• 52:11
  you. So like whether you're joining a
• 52:13
  run club and you go like every week and you're running with
• 52:16
  people, which Chris Williamson always says that run clubs are
• 52:18
  basically the new dating apps. Like it's basically just a
• 52:20
  dating event or pickleball or you join like a pottery class
• 52:23
  that you go to every single week.
• 52:24
  Or you go to, you find a really great Bible study and you're
• 52:26
  going every single week with the same group of people.
• 52:29
  You get comfortable in that environment with that same
• 52:32
  group. And if there's somebody there
• 52:34
  that maybe you're interested in, you can start those
• 52:36
  conversations in a comfortable, like, the stakes are so low
• 52:40
  because you're gonna see them next week.
• 52:41
  So you don't have to go, OK, I have to get everything set up.
• 52:44
  I need to go ask route. And if it doesn't go, well,
• 52:46
  she's gonna, you know, cancel me online and I'm gonna be
• 52:48
  arrested. Like, it's just the stakes are
• 52:50
  lower and you can actually get comfortable engaging with, you
• 52:54
  know, people of the opposite sex.
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  And so that's sort of been what I've, you know, been suggesting
• 52:59
  in a perfect world, I would love to be, like, hosting dating
• 53:01
  events and actually getting people, you know, real life.
• 53:04
  But I have so much, you know, sympathy for them.
• 53:07
  And I'm so grateful that I, you know, that I met Alex.
• 53:11
  And. No, actually we met at work,
• 53:14
  which is crazy, which I always said I would never do.
• 53:16
  I was like never. He he also said it.
• 53:17
  It was like a whole thing that I was like, I can't do this,
• 53:20
  whatever. But you know, Daily Wire kind of
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  did the easy part for me. Because thank you daily.
• 53:24
  Wire. Yeah, exactly.
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  Because I knew that where our values were aligned and it was
• 53:29
  so, you know, simple. And he literally walked in and
• 53:33
  like, I looked at him and I was like, that's it.
• 53:34
  Like, wow, that's what. I'd never spoken with him
• 53:36
  before. How did he ask you out?
• 53:39
  In the parking lot and he literally just said it.
• 53:41
  Was he allowed? Was he allowed to do that?
• 53:42
  I don't know. Who knows?
• 53:45
  He's like, he wasn't my boss. So no, yeah, he wasn't.
• 53:48
  But no. And it was, it was very
• 53:50
  traditional and normal and, you know, not over text.
• 53:54
  The other thing that I will tell women, and this is like
• 53:57
  apparently the sign that I gave Alex that it was like, OK to ask
• 53:59
  me out was that, you know, women, you don't have to ask
• 54:02
  out. I mean, you don't have to make a
• 54:03
  first big move, but you do have to show that you're interested.
• 54:06
  And like, I hear from women and they're like, how do I get a guy
• 54:08
  to ask me out? It's like maybe smile, like make
• 54:11
  them in the eyes. Yes.
• 54:13
  Like show that you were interested in apparently.
• 54:14
  Like we were sitting outside and it was cold.
• 54:16
  I didn't have a sweater. And we were standing out by my
• 54:18
  car and I was like shivering, but I made no motion to like
• 54:21
  move. I did not want to leave the
• 54:22
  conversation. He was like, you kept continuing
• 54:24
  the conversation even though you were freezing cold and
• 54:26
  shivering. And he was like, and I knew that
• 54:28
  you actually wanted to be there and that you were interested.
• 54:30
  And he was like, that was the sign that you gave me.
• 54:32
  So just like your body language and I think women are so closed
• 54:36
  off, but you do have to also take that first step.
• 54:38
  It's a dance, which again, I don't think Gen.
• 54:40
  Z has been taught how to do. We had.
• 54:43
  We had Alessandra Conti and then Rachel Kanto, a couple different
• 54:46
  girls in the last few months on about dating and echoing a lot
• 54:49
  of what you're saying. And they're saying let it be a
• 54:51
  little uncomfortable. Like you got to lean into it
• 54:54
  almost like physically lean into it, you know, or make the eye
• 54:57
  contact longer than you would feel naturally comfortable
• 55:01
  because they're all also so shy. I think we're so shy because
• 55:04
  everything and awkward COVID made us awkward.
• 55:06
  Obviously. It even made me awkward.
• 55:08
  I remember after I got back into like doing social things with my
• 55:11
  husband again and like with other people, I was like, wait a
• 55:13
  minute, we're doing social things again after two years of
• 55:15
  like conquering down. And we still did some social
• 55:17
  things during COVID, but there was a lot more activity
• 55:20
  happening and I think we've just gotten rusty.
• 55:23
  And if you, if you didn't even have that because you just had
• 55:25
  COVID, that was your like youth, like part of your youth.
• 55:28
  And then you have the phone, you have digital life.
• 55:31
  It is so hard to interact. One of the things that they said
• 55:34
  I thought was really good too was it's not just like find
• 55:37
  someone you find attractive and then go flirt with them.
• 55:38
  It's like be open with people generally.
• 55:42
  Like have that like when you're walking around public, make eye
• 55:44
  contact when you're talking to a clerk, like like ask, have the
• 55:47
  small talk, have small talk with.
• 55:49
  Them again, because it's, it's habits, it's practically just
• 55:51
  learning how to engage and be open to it and knowing social
• 55:54
  cues. I think that COVID, you know,
• 55:57
  made us rusty. But again, just with my
• 55:58
  generation of being so online, we are not good with social
• 56:02
  cues. And so I think that is, you
• 56:04
  know, what makes women a bit like testy about things like is
• 56:08
  this guy being creepy or is he just interested?
• 56:10
  Like we genuinely like guys don't know, women don't know.
• 56:12
  And I often say like for women, if a man is, you know, asking
• 56:16
  you out and leaning in, that's not really creepy.
• 56:18
  But to men, like I've been followed around Home Depot when
• 56:21
  I was single, the guy being like, can I have your Snapchat?
• 56:23
  I have your Snapchat and I've said no, you're Snapchat is
• 56:26
  creepy. And it's like, so we do need to
• 56:28
  know, like what is appropriate, but it goes for both men and
• 56:30
  women. And so, yeah, it's practice.
• 56:32
  It's getting comfortable. It's being just open in general,
• 56:36
  which I think will be so important for people.
• 56:38
  But it breaks. I have so much sympathy for my
• 56:39
  generation because it's so I feel like I, you know, won the
• 56:42
  lottery. I feel so undeserving of it
• 56:45
  because I know how hard it is for so many people my age all.
• 56:48
  Right, last topic that we have to touch on is faith, because
• 56:51
  that's another part of the the statistical analysis that's
• 56:53
  coming out is that the men are going more to church and the
• 56:56
  women are not. I know it's connected back to
• 56:57
  everything else we're talking about, about the way women see
• 56:59
  themselves. They see the world because the
• 57:01
  way women also see themselves in the world is a is a bit of a
• 57:04
  secret to how they see God. All of this is connected.
• 57:07
  What do, What are you seeing out there and how do you personally,
• 57:10
  how do you personally approach God?
• 57:13
  It's been a a journey for me as of late.
• 57:16
  I was raised Episcopalian and then kind of went in and out of
• 57:20
  my faith. Being a child actor in Los
• 57:21
  Angeles is like the most ungodly thing possible.
• 57:24
  And so that was not part of my teen years.
• 57:27
  That was not interestingly, it really wasn't part of my come to
• 57:31
  conservatism. It was not really faith driven
• 57:33
  at all. It's something that's kind of
• 57:34
  come later, which a lot of people have felt very weird
• 57:37
  about. They're like, that doesn't make
• 57:38
  sense. But it was simply just because
• 57:41
  of common sense that I realized later on like, Oh no, this is
• 57:43
  something that I need in my life.
• 57:44
  So it's been a ever going journey of trying to figure out,
• 57:48
  you know, where Alex and I are going to land because we were
• 57:51
  raised in, you know, different denominations.
• 57:55
  We, you know, last year started going through our CIA actually.
• 57:57
  So we're trying to figure out, you know, where our home is
• 58:00
  going to be. But for a minute, I think he
• 58:02
  made a really excellent point. We're not interested in being
• 58:07
  submissive. And even as a young woman who
• 58:11
  did learn more right, and was more conservative, I resented
• 58:14
  that word and thought, I just don't identify with that until I
• 58:18
  met Alex and I met a man that was worth submitting to.
• 58:20
  And then I felt like I could actually relax with and breathe
• 58:23
  easy and say, OK, I'm, you know, I can follow this man and, you
• 58:27
  know, I know that he will lead me.
• 58:29
  And I think that that is indicative of how a lot of women
• 58:32
  view God and view the church. If again, I'm going to dictate
• 58:36
  everything, it's going to be my by my values and my morals.
• 58:39
  And you have to bend to me, which is how a lot of them view
• 58:41
  relationships as well. And so that's never going to be
• 58:44
  compatible with a traditional view of, you know, faith.
• 58:48
  So I think that's why a lot of women are walking away from the
• 58:50
  church. And so I'm so glad that, you
• 58:51
  know, men are leading the charge and getting back in.
• 58:54
  But now it's kind of like, oh, gosh, other women, we need to
• 58:55
  bring them all back. Yeah, I think you're right.
• 58:58
  I think that it's it's just another arm of this same divide,
• 59:01
  which is, you know, I think pretty devastating for the soul
• 59:05
  of our country. But men making their way back, I
• 59:08
  think is really positive. Are you still in our CIA or
• 59:11
  you're where are you guys at with that?
• 59:13
  We were CIA. Is tough a lot of the time hard
• 59:16
  depending who's teaching it. Yeah, it can make a big
• 59:18
  difference to who's in it. We started it last year and then
• 59:22
  I left to go filming Hungary for about 5 months.
• 59:26
  And so that kind of broke our pattern and our, you know,
• 59:30
  progression through it. And then we got married early
• 59:33
  this year. And so we felt a lot of pressure
• 59:35
  to finish it and get confirmed before we got married so we
• 59:38
  could get married in the Catholic Church.
• 59:40
  And that didn't really feel right either because, you know,
• 59:42
  we were going through it and there were questions that we had
• 59:44
  and we didn't feel like our understanding was deep enough.
• 59:46
  So we kind of just took a step back and said, OK, we're just
• 59:48
  going to get married and then we're going to work on this
• 59:50
  together. So I think that it's a, it's a
• 59:51
  conversation that we're having more and more, you know,
• 59:54
  literally just in the past few weeks of, is this something that
• 59:57
  we want to pick up? Did we, you know, feel like we
• 59:59
  had a home there? And so, yeah, it's all active,
• 1:00:03
  but it was put on pause at the beginning of this year.
• 1:00:05
  Do you have a good priest that you guys talk to?
• 1:00:07
  Yes. OK.
• 1:00:07
  Yeah, that's good. Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  That made for me. That was everything because I, I
• 1:00:10
  was actually very spoiled to not have to do our CIA.
• 1:00:14
  I mean, not to like hate on our CIA because there's probably
• 1:00:16
  like religious educators listening.
• 1:00:17
  They're like, what are you doing to my RCI?
• 1:00:19
  Yeah, but he he, he basically is like, what questions do you
• 1:00:22
  have? Because I had already done a lot
• 1:00:24
  of research and study on my own. It's like, what questions do you
• 1:00:27
  have? And then walked through each of
• 1:00:29
  them. Yeah.
• 1:00:30
  Because it's important to like, lay it like have peace,
• 1:00:32
  obviously about all of this and make sure you're going in with
• 1:00:35
  eyes wide open about what it is. And I.
• 1:00:37
  Think that's what we didn't have because it felt fast and rushed
• 1:00:40
  and disjointed and I was like doing it over zoom from Hungary
• 1:00:43
  and I was like, oh, this isn't this isn't right.
• 1:00:44
  That's hard. But.
• 1:00:46
  Yeah, Yeah. Well, I'm very excited for you
• 1:00:48
  guys. I know there's a lot to a lot to
• 1:00:51
  continue to explore, I'm sure in your marriage and and with their
• 1:00:54
  faith, but you're doing a phenomenal job, Brett, thank
• 1:00:56
  you. What's next for you?
• 1:00:58
  Oh, gosh, you know, we're going to continue the show.
• 1:01:01
  I want to keep growing it and reaching young people.
• 1:01:03
  I think that this is such a crucial time, not just because
• 1:01:06
  of the election, but I think that the election is, you know,
• 1:01:09
  a symptom of maybe, I don't know if symptom is the right word,
• 1:01:13
  but it is indicative of really big changes that are happening
• 1:01:16
  in this country. It feels like a really
• 1:01:17
  significant turning point. So that's all my focus is there
• 1:01:19
  and just trying to give young people the resources and the
• 1:01:22
  empowerment that they need, and that's where I'm going to keep
• 1:01:25
  going. Keep it up.
• 1:01:26
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• 1:01:27
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