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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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is Boxing Before Dark. Yes. Boxing before dark.
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The hands are rubbed. The shoulders are popped.
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It's time to get this bitch rolling. I'm joined
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by Shanada. Is that what you go by? I don't know.
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Shanada, Shanada. Doesn't matter. Same shit.
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Yeah. So, we're here to talk fucking boxing.
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And boy, oh boy, is there plenty of it. By the
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time this comes out, it will have already happened.
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As we are recording, it has not happened yet.
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So we can't talk about it, even if we wanted
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to. I'm just going to say I called it. What I
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called, I'm not sure, but I called it. Thinking
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on how we've talked about the fight previously,
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I'm hoping that you didn't call it. Yeah, well,
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we don't know which fight I'm talking about yet.
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Yeah, it. There's only one it, I thought, for
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the weekend, but there's two. That's right. Well,
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maybe it's that Mbili isn't as good as everyone
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thinks. Who knows? Or Lester Martinez is actually...
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The fucking bee's knees. Roblox buff, baby. All
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right. Well, we can't talk about it because it
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hasn't happened yet. So sucks to suck for us.
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You know what is happening? Isaac Cruz versus
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Lamont Roach. Man, that's actually a really solid
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fight. I was surprised. I expect Lamont Roach
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is going to take this one pretty easily. Yeah.
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You never know, though. I mean, Isaac Cruz is
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never going to just lay down and die. The little
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pit bull will keep coming. He should change his
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name to Stafford. Staffordshire. Terrier? Yep.
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Terrier does fit him. Probably better than pit
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bull, but... I don't know. I think this will
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be fun. I don't know if it goes the whole distance,
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and I kind of agree. I lean towards Lamont Roach,
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but... I think it should be fun. If Lamont Roach
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was able to tame Tank the way he did, then I
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don't see Isaac Cruz offering him anything, any
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serious problems. What, tenacity? Is that it?
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Well, I mean, there will be more punches coming
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Roach's way. True. Tank's not a high output guy.
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True. So tenacity and output and Tank kind of
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quit. Like... Isaac's not gonna quit. He's not
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going to take a knee that's not a knee and ask
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his corner to wipe his eyes for him. I don't
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know. I think it'll be fun. You said the trigger
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word. The trigger phrase. A knee that's not a
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knee. Wipe my face. I'm getting fucking steamed
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again. You fucking lost that fight, buddy. You
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lost. 100 % Tank lost that fight. You lost that
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fight, dude. You got bailed out. The fuck out
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by video replay not working that they didn't
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fucking need. Like, you did not need replay on
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that. Knees are knees. That was not... Oh, did
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he maybe touch? No, he straight up did it. Yeah.
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Isaac Cruz, Lamont Roach. Yeah, you're right.
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You've painted this into a better light. I'm
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still favoring Lamont Roach. Too clever, I think.
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Yeah, I think Roach is a better boxer. Yeah.
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But... Good boxers have been beaten by output
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and tenacity before. Is that what happened to
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AJ when he fought Andy Ruiz? It kind of is, actually.
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That's a good segue. Excellent fucking transition
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point. Go me. AJ is out until at least mid -2026,
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is what they're saying. And you said it's not
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an injury, it's a choice. Yes. All of his contract
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situations have been falling through. and I think
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it's been messing with his mental, so he's kind
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of taking a break. Yeah, honestly, I think AJ
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needs to really, really consider just retiring.
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Become a Beats brand ambassador full -time. Is
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that what he... He always wears them, yeah. Oh,
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okay. Fair enough. Prep your things you like.
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If you like it. If you like them, then go ahead.
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Is that like Beats by Dre? Yes. They're expensive.
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They are. And they're not very good. I don't
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know if they're good. I just know they're expensive.
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I did a side -by -side. They're not very good.
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Fair enough. I got my electrical taped up pair
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that was a present because I'm too cheap to buy
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nice headphones. Nah. What are mine? They're
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Jubels, I think. I actually do really like them.
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Oh, if they work. They get the job done. And
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they sound good. Speaking of sounding good, the
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Oli Act, the changes to the Oli Act have been
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dropped. Dot, dot, dot. For now. For now. With
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Mr. Burns doing the little finger thing. Yeah.
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Excellent that he does. They're gone for now.
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Do you know why they've stopped? So they did
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get Congress or whatever to... Sorry, I need
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to start at the beginning. The fighters... league
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that's not what they're called the representatives
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of the fighters that last time we were talking
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about how they were never actually given the
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the sort of changes to read themselves and it
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had just been approved by the the group uh those
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guys actually did fight back uh i think it was
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is it ronda rousey's mom or holly holmes mom
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someone's mom who was also a judo person is on
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that board and really kind of spearheaded it
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being like there's been so much pushback from
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fighters from fans from everyone you can't say
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that we have approved this like it's so not approved
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so when the group pulled their approval congress
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did whatever they do they didn't They stopped
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the vote, I think. Like, they... I don't know
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how the government works very well, but they
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said that it needs to be revisited before they
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vote on it. So it sounds like it was in committee,
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and it was going to be voted out of committee
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to go to the floor, but because the... fighters
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association or whatever said no there's there
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it's it's gonna stay in committee while it's
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being reviewed by the fighters association right
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okay that's much more coherent than what i was
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saying that's just what it sounds like i'm not
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a hundred percent if that's what's happening
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That's my understanding, but like I said, I don't
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really understand how any government works, especially
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not the American one. But it's been paused, basically,
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and it's going for further review, which is good,
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because as far as I could find, they hadn't actually
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let any of the fighter representatives read the
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damn thing before they approved it. I think this
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is good. And hopefully it just gets fucking axed
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altogether. Or changed in a way that actually
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helps fighters. The minimum pays would not be
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a bad thing. No, that's not bad. If that's all
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it is. If it gets changed to we're adding minimum
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pays and some sort of retirement fund or emergency
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health fund or something, that would be great.
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But that's not what they're trying to do. I can
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only hope that this causes the pendulum of the
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OLLIAC to swing back and start to target MMA
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fighters as well. And it just completely fucks
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the UFC up. That would be amazing. Oh, God. I
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just got a hate boner thinking about that. If
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the changes actually just become, oh, we're going
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to make this combat sports and not just boxing
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and UFC has to have real, like, promoters and
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managers that are separate people, that would
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be fucking amazing. Yeah, I think UFC might become
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a little bit more likable as an organization
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if they were to work that way. Well, and people
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would get fucked less. Yeah. Maybe. It's not
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like people don't get fucked over in boxing either,
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though, but less. It doesn't seem to happen as
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badly. Unless you sign with Don King, which is
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kind of your own fault at this point. Yeah, if
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you're signing with Don King in the year of our
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Lord 2025, you need some help. And Don King is
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not going to give you any. No. Let me skip this
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Lance Pugmire thing to go to Dana White. It's
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all connected anyways. Alright, cool. So Dana
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White has been having a pretty rough week with
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the media. And it is awesome. Glorious. Absolutely
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fucking amazing. So So far, my favorite interview,
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and she will never get an interview again, has
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been Amber Dixon. And I spelled her name wrong
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here. It's with an X. She just called Dana White
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out on all his bullshit. It was great. I haven't
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been able to find her full interview on its own,
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but the Pro Box guys, boxing scene, was talking
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about it on their YouTube channel. And the parts
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they showed, it was great. She called them out
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on everything, asked them about how important
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it is that the OLLI Act get changed so that TKO
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can get into boxing. And Dana just completely
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deflected that to look how much money we made
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with UFC, which is completely unrelated to the
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fucking question. And then she was talking about
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fighter pays. asked him why UFC guys get paid
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so much less, and he's like, well, do they? Do
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they get paid less? And she's like, I don't know.
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You guys don't report the pay, and neither does
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boxing in Nevada anymore. And he's like, well,
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you can talk to the fighters. You can ask them.
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I haven't told them they can't talk about it.
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But he kind of has. Anybody in the UFC who talks
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about pay and stuff, they just get blackballed.
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Yeah, they absolutely do. So, yeah, legally they
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can talk about it, but they know it's going to
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screw their career. And he was trying to say
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that, well, we have fighters that make the crazy
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amounts of money, like Conor McGregor. And Amber
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Dixon's like, yeah, in a boxing match. Yeah,
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against Floyd in a boxing match. Yeah. So, great
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interview. I actually, I knew of Amber Dixon,
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but I hadn't seen any real clips that made me
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particularly like her more than other reporters.
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But I am now a fan because she made Dana White
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look like an idiot and she didn't back down like
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some other people do. I am now an Amber Dixon
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fan. I'm going to play the bit here. I've heard
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a hundred million. Probably. No one in the UFC
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has ever made that as a base purse. Conor McGregor?
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$100 million, but that was against Floyd in a
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boxing match. That's right. What about Crawford?
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Oh, man. So she kind of sets him up, too. She
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says, oh, so Conor McGregor made $100 million.
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He's like, yep, that's right. Conor McGregor
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did. And then she said, in a boxing match. Okay,
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got it. And then he kind of turns a little red.
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Yeah, you tomato face piece of shit. Yeah. Take
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that. So that was the first one I saw. But he's
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been just fucking getting it all week. And they've
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started banning people from the press conferences
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already. So boxing scene, Lance Pugmire banned
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from the press conference. He was given his press
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passes and everything, and, like, the day before,
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after he had already flown out, they pulled it.
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And the Canelo Crawford press conference, a couple
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people stood up and asked Dana some very, very
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pointed questions, and he was not happy. I'm
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loving it. I'm loving that the boxing media isn't
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just, like, letting everything slide. and kissing
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his ass yeah i mean there are a few people doing
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that and it's fucking cringe as hell but yeah
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like max kellerman i did see his bit at the end
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where he was just like slurping on dana and turkey
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oh jesus man what are what are you doing it was
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fucking bad used to be a voice for the sport
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And now you're not. I never liked Max Kellerman,
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and now I actively dislike him. Like, it's getting
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close to I fucking hate him. He's so not... He
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has no integrity in his media stuff. He just
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kisses whoever's ass he's told to. Unlike LVX
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Media. Yeah, we're called Lux because we are
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the light in this dark fucking abyss that is
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boxing media landscape. Very poetic. I'm really
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good at this. I can tell. Alright, so you got
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on here Provox. Oh, this was for me for the recaps.
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Sorry, we don't need to talk about this. Yeah,
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I kind of guess. That was a whole week ago and
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I would forget. Well, if that's the case, let's
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get into the recaps. A few weeks behind. As is
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our usual, our reviews are always timely. Or
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our previews are always timely. Me mixing up
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reviews and previews, the words, is always timely.
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Because it always happens. Right. So, we're going
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to reach back to Eye of the Tiger on September
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4th. Did you catch this? I did watch this, yes.
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Yeah. Oslis. It's two S's. On the Instagram,
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you were... What did you use to... What did you
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change his name to? Osley... I glaze his ass.
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I glaze his ass. Yeah. Oh, that's fun. I was
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thinking of who is it in the Discord that fucking
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loves Osleys. Oh, Big Bud, I think. Yeah, yeah.
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That should be Big Bud's tagline. I'll glaze
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his ass. He looked pretty damn good. He did look
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good, actually. We have to do a little glazing.
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Yeah, he was actually really solid. He was pretty
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much in control from the very beginning, and
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it looked like Shishkin kind of quiet quit in
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round five. Four or five? But, like, Iglesias
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got him out of there. He might have switched
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into survival mode, but it didn't work. Yep.
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Somebody was saying that Shishkin gave William
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Skull a really hard fight, and so therefore one
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should be careful about... Betting the house
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on Iglesias? That was funny. In hindsight. That
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was not good advice. I have seen a couple people
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saying because Shishkin had such a good fight
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with Skull and Iglesias knocked him out that
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Iglesias should fight Canelo. They're doing the
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triangle theory of boxing. If Iglesias should
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fight anybody, it should be Skull. Right now.
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No. To complete the triangle. Yeah, but nobody
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wants to see that. No, not at all. It's just
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triangle theory playing it out to its illogical
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conclusions. Yeah, I... I don't think Canelo's
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gonna fight him. But I also don't know if Iglesias
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is ready for Canelo anyways. I don't think so
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either. Canelo's... He's a mystery right now.
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He's been fighting such bad competition. It's
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hard to tell if he's washed or not. Moving to...
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Speaking of washed. Yeah, Wasserman at the Three
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Arena in Dublin, Ireland. Mickey Conlin gets
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the stoppage in four. Jack Bateson Conlon needs
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to not box anymore yeah he should promote with
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his brother and his dad make it a family affair
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more of a family affair yeah I don't think we
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can take anything away from this fight like Mickey
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Conlon still has a glass jaw I for the If you're
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an audio -only, which that's what this is, this
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audio -only, I did a big shrug with, like, a
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snarled lip. Like, meh. As far as, like, what
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can we take away from this? Yeah. Mickey Conlin
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still knows how to box, but if he ever gets hit,
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it's game over. Yeah, if he decides to venture
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any closer to page one... On BoxRec, then he's
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going to run into some problems. Yeah. Which
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is too bad. I wanted Mickey Conlon to be good.
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I just liked his persona, but... Who was it really
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cracked him? It was Lee Wood, wasn't it? I think
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so. Yeah. Moving to ProBox. At the Care First
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Arena in Washington, D .C. Yeah, okay. This is
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the one. There was two really weird stoppages.
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Fuck, and I didn't write down... This is why
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I tried to take notes and I fucked it up. I know
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the Sagawa fight was a really weird stoppage
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where they stopped it in between... The ref stopped
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it, like, in between rounds, almost. Almost.
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Well, I mean, kind of technically, the belt had
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gone. He had been waving it off already. He was
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actively stepping in to break the fight. Yeah.
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It was just a bit of a weird stoppage. I don't
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think it was a bad stoppage. Sagawa was just
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beating the pants off of that guy. Absolutely.
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I love Sagawa. I will glaze him all fucking day.
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I was telling the guys in the Discord that he
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was fun. And they're like, he's some fucking
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unknown guy from Uganda? Yeah. And I was like,
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it doesn't matter. He's fucking entertaining.
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And I think I made a couple Sagawa fans out of
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them by the end of that fight. Or he made a couple
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Sagawa fans by the end of that fight. I'm going
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to say you did it. It was all me. You primed
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him. I am his best cheerleader. It was a really
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fun fight. It was. He's always high action. Good
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output. great engine and he's everything i like
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he gets hit so it's exciting i think he's gonna
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gonna go on the pro box rebuild circuit for a
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little bit i hope so because he's like you said
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he's really fun and he seems like he seems like
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a really good dude so seems like a it would be
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deserving for him to get get his career rehabbed
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and then get pushed up to get another title shot
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Yeah, he is 34, so they can't rehab him for too
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long. I forgot about that. But I think he would
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do fine in a world title fight right now. I don't
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know if he beats. I mean, 126 isn't that deep
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right now. No, but the top is really heavy. Yeah.
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I think he'd do fine. I don't know if he could
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get a belt, but I don't think he would be out
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of place. If you know what I mean. Yeah. So,
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Angelo Leo. Leo Sagawa would be a good fight.
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Yes. Stephen Fulton. He's moving up. But I think
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he pieces up Sagawa, unfortunately. Yeah. He
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probably just outboxes him. And Nick Ball? Ball
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versus Sagawa would be a fucking fireworks fight.
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Yeah, someone who's going to stand and trade
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with Nick Ball. That would make it worth his
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while, I think. And honestly, I don't know who
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wins that one. I would consider that a pretty
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50 -50 fight. Wow. That is some faith in Sagawa.
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You think not? I just don't have as much faith
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in Nick Ball as everyone else seems to. I don't
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really either. Where's Drip? We need somebody
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to sing Nick Ball's praises. We need a ball glazer.
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That works on multiple levels. Excellent. And
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Rafaela Spinoza. then no no no that's bad again
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i i think leo would be a good one yeah i i just
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think sagawa deserves his shot i think he's he's
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put in the work who did he get his shot against
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before carrington and i think he beat bruce carrington
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yeah because i was gonna i was gonna say i remember
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it being a really like scrappy fight And if it's
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Bruce Carrington, I would like for him to lose.
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Glenn Feldman had it a draw. And the other two
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had it 97 -93 for Shushu. But I just don't think
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it was that far. I think Sagawa just... How do
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I put it? It wasn't a robbery. I think it's just
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the judges didn't like his style. But it's also
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Bruce Carrington, New York fighter in New York.
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Yeah. So I think it was a little bit of home
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cooking, but not an outright robbery. Yeah. If
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that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. But
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I think Sagawa looked good in that fight too.
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I don't think that should really bar him from
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another chance. Like he didn't look completely
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outclassed. And that was not for any real titles.
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It was just for regional stuff. Yeah. I don't
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know. I'm a fan. Everybody should watch him.
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Especially when he's free on Probox. But then
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the main event also had a weird stoppage, didn't
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it? There was two. Or was it the one before this?
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Was it Valenzuela? It was not the main event.
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No, because that went to decision. Okay, the
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Torres -Cardoso stoppage was also weird. Same
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sort of thing. It was, like, right at the bell
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that they waved it off. And, like, not, again,
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not a bad stoppage, just a weird stoppage. The
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timing on both of them was pretty strange. Like,
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they... My memory's so shit. There was a knockdown
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at the end of the round, and the guy stood up
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and made the count, and the bell went, and then
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the ref waved it off. Instead of giving him his
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one minute in the corner. Yeah, that's right.
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Now, again, it wasn't a terrible stoppage, but,
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like, nine times out of ten, they give the guy
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his minute, let him come out, and then stop it
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next time he gets knocked down. Yeah. Give them
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the minute. Yeah, they just... And again, I'm
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not even particularly mad about the stoppage.
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It's just weird. And it's weird that they had
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two at the bell like that in the same card. Back
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to back. They are in the DC swamp. All sorts
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of corruption and fuckery going on. I mean, it
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worked for me because I had Torres in the pick
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league. Yeah. Pro box is always good. I don't
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think we've really talked about any super weird
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decisions and stuff on pro box. No. But these
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two stoppages were just weird. Again, not even
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bad, just weird. Yeah, yeah. I don't really have
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a whole lot to add to it. You described them
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both pretty perfectly. Like the Sagawa one. It
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was an almost similar situation, just Sansa knocked
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down. So I guess that would make it a little
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stranger without the knockdown beforehand. Yeah,
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I don't know. Again, they're not bad. I think
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both those guys were getting stopped anyways,
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if they let him come back out. But it's just
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weird that they were both at the bell. Yeah.
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They did talk, the commentators did talk about
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how Acosta's corner should have stopped it the
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round before and stuff. And how the ref was kind
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of trying to get them to throw in the towel.
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So maybe that's why he stopped it, because he
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knew the corner wouldn't. And we've talked about
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that before, where the fighters have to really
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trust their corner to save them. So maybe the
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ref decided that the corner wasn't, yeah, they
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weren't doing their job properly and he stopped
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it for them, even though it was a little weird
31:11
for the ref to stop it. And I'm okay with that.
31:15
It's just a weird talking point, I guess. Well,
31:25
in the main event, little, I don't know if this
31:28
is high strangeness. But the hometown guy loses
31:32
on points. 95 to 94. So with a knockdown, somebody
31:39
scored it a fucking draw. I'm not sure what you
31:42
were watching, Paul Wallace. But that's a pretty
31:49
rough scorecard to turn in. Yeah, it was not
31:54
that close. No, not even a little. 96 to 93.
31:59
6 -4 with a KD. Even that feels a little bit
32:04
closer than it really was. But... But the right
32:11
guy won in the end, I guess. The takeaway is
32:21
Pro Box is still good. That was a good card.
32:25
They had a couple less good cards lately. They're
32:28
back on the train. Pro box, good. Let's move
32:38
to match room at the Rainton Meadows Arena. Pat
32:44
McCormick retires. Miguel Parra. Troy Williamson
32:50
stops. Mark Dickinson in the ninth. Oh, the retirement
32:55
was after the ninth, so. Or after the 8th, excuse
32:59
me. And Sandy Ryan gets a UD. Our boy Cameron
33:06
Wong gets a scoring referee points decision.
33:14
I hate that. If you're trying to score in referee,
33:19
you're doing a shit job of both things usually.
33:22
Or at least one of those things. It can't be
33:28
that expensive to pay one judge. To have a single
33:32
judge instead of a scoring referee. Well, it's
33:36
the same number of scorecards. Yeah, it is. Like,
33:44
get some judge practicing. Like a low level.
33:49
Yeah. And Leo Atang gets a stoppage in one. Congratulations.
33:58
You get some Leo points. You get to keep the
34:02
name. You get to keep your name. I have to admit,
34:06
I didn't watch this card at all. It's fine. You
34:10
didn't miss a whole lot. Brit Slop, I assume.
34:14
Yes. This was a Brit Slop. A little disappointed
34:20
that I assume Para is Mexican. I think so. The
34:25
Mexican buff didn't work. Or wait, where's McCormick
34:30
from? Yeah, he's... The Mexican buff didn't work.
34:35
Yeah, against a very British person. Very British.
34:44
Let's see. I finally figured out what venue this
34:48
was at. This was at El Centro de Usos Múltiples.
34:55
The cum center? The cum center. Oh man, being
35:01
13 is fun. But this was in Los Mochis. They were
35:07
very pointedly reminding us. Not related to boxing,
35:14
but what is Mochis in Spanish? It's not ice cream.
35:21
It's not the rice dessert? No, it's not. I'm
35:27
not sure what it is. I think it's the name of
35:29
a landmark. Does it look like a mochi? I don't
35:36
know. Anyway. Eduardo Nunez versus Christopher
35:45
Diaz. Nunez gets the UD in a very tough fight.
35:53
Yeah, this was a fun fight, actually. Yeah, it
35:55
was a lot of fun. Very entertaining. The scorecards
36:01
were crazy wide, I thought. Of course they were.
36:06
I mean, I guess it was a pretty one -sided fight,
36:12
but 117 -109 seems quite wide. 117 -109, he got
36:21
knocked down twice. So in the same round. So
36:25
that's a 10 -7. So it would be 117 -111. 9 -3
36:32
though. Either way. Yeah, 9 -3 is a little wide.
36:37
Seemed wide to me. It was a good fight. It was
36:45
fun. Who's the other one you have here? I have
36:49
to look at his picture. Yeah, I need to look
36:51
at it too, because I'm not remembering who these
36:53
guys are. Oh, this was the draw. Yes. This was
37:06
a really fun fight, actually. This was better
37:08
than the main event. Pedro Guevara split draw
37:12
with Alexis Molina. I would watch those guys
37:20
again. They should run it back. Would be a good
37:24
one. Moving to top rank at the Binational Dome
37:32
in Nogales. Homecoming fight for Oscar Valdez.
37:40
He got an easy win. Clean, clear. It was what
37:47
you'd expect from a homecoming fight. Yeah, Oscar
37:53
looked good, but probably pretty easy to look
37:56
good against someone that far below you. Yeah,
37:59
not so good of opposition. It's, yeah, not that
38:04
great. Yeah. And to go to a decision with him,
38:10
too, that's what I thought was weird. It's like,
38:12
you have the guy clearly outboxed. You have him
38:15
figured out, so what's your problem? Yeah. I
38:21
mean, Oscar's getting kind of old, isn't he?
38:23
Yeah, he's in his 30s, I think. 34. Man. Boxing
38:33
ancient. I mean, it kind of is, though. Yeah,
38:38
it really is. But he could keep doing stuff like
38:43
this, like at this level. I think he could. step
38:49
up the level a bit still like a little bit i
38:53
don't think he yeah i don't know about world
38:58
titles or anything but like he doesn't need to
39:01
be fighting whatever this guy does for a day
39:05
job uh who's at his Oh, right. Nunez. They had
39:21
Navarrete. They had him at the Nunez fight. And
39:28
they did a little face -off. Oh, right. Yep.
39:39
Nav's such a weird cat. Quite. I got... In trouble,
39:49
not in trouble, but people were pushing back
39:51
in the Discord when I said he dresses so slutty.
39:54
Oh, I saw that. Nav dresses pretty slutty. He
39:59
does. I don't know what Isaac was looking at,
40:04
but Nav is looking like he's on the prowl constantly.
40:13
Yeah, he has a button -up shirt with only, like,
40:16
the bottom two buttons. The deep, deep V. Yeah.
40:22
With the gold chains and the cowboy hats. Come
40:27
on. And it's always black clothes, which somehow
40:31
is the sluttiest color for boys. Black or white.
40:38
It just is. Valdez, keep going, buddy. I mean,
40:51
you're going to. Yeah, this fight was at 128
40:54
for some reason. I don't know. I think they gave
40:58
Medina. Well, I wonder if Valdez is trying to
41:04
check and see if he can get down to 126 where
41:07
the competition is maybe not so tough. Maybe
41:14
not. Maybe I'm reaching. No, I don't think you
41:18
are. Because he did look a little bit sunken
41:23
in the face. Yeah, because what does Medina usually
41:30
fight at? Medina usually fights at 130 as well.
41:40
So. Between 126 and 130. And 135, actually. He
41:49
has a few up there. It kind of seems like maybe
41:53
Oscar was asking for the 128 limit. Maybe. Maybe
42:00
he is looking to go back down to 126. That would
42:02
be interesting. That would be... Yeah, that's
42:06
something to keep an eye on. See what he does
42:08
next. He hasn't been 126 for a very long time.
42:16
Maybe if he's looking to not get hit in the face
42:18
so hard. Yeah, he had a lot of hard fights at
42:24
130. Yeah. He's not particularly big, Oscar Valdez,
42:29
but cutting that extra four pounds might be hard.
42:37
Moving to previews. We've got three. No limit
42:49
on the 18th. They're doing it on a Thursday this
42:53
time. Really did me a favor here. Australia,
43:00
thank you. From the bottom, I only have three
43:06
that I picked up. Brock Jarvis, quick turnaround.
43:10
That last fight, he didn't take any. Damage anyways.
43:16
Might as well. Liam Wilson versus Sandy Tavares.
43:26
Give me a second here. Alright. It really is
43:31
a dude named Sandy. That's not that uncommon.
43:36
I was just thinking about it. There's been a
43:39
lot of baseball players that have been named
43:41
Sandy. It's usually short for Alexander. Get
43:47
shortened to Xander and then Xandy. Xandy, yeah.
43:51
Okay. Not weird. Just, uh... It is not a lady
43:58
named Liam. That would be weirder. Yeah. And
44:07
Liam Paro versus David Papat. Papat, Papo, Papit.
44:15
Papit, probably. Is he a white guy? Papit. Oh,
44:20
he's from France, though. Papo. Something lame.
44:28
These look like kind of walkover fights to me.
44:33
I don't expect any of the A -sides to lose. No,
44:38
I don't either. But they look good on paper.
44:42
Yeah, but the French guys never fought outside
44:44
of France. Bruno Saras never fought out of France.
44:51
He fought in the States once and got a split
44:55
draw. The one time he ventured out of France.
45:01
I don't see Paro getting Sarast. I don't either.
45:06
I didn't see Munguia getting Sarast either. And
45:10
where's Sandy from? He's from the Dominican Republic.
45:17
Never fought outside Dominican. So. Yeah. I'm
45:25
expecting A -side wins. Put him down in the pick
45:30
league. Honestly, I don't know if Vom will even
45:35
bother with these. I know that Liam Parrow is
45:38
on there, so maybe the rest are. Fair enough.
45:45
If there's not much going on, I guess. There's
45:50
also, on the 20th, Star Boxing. A bunch of shit
45:56
on here that I don't care about, but Mickey Scala,
45:58
Arizona fucking prospect. Gotta help. Gotta get
46:03
my boy's name out there. He's from Mesa. Yep.
46:07
Not too far from where I live now. He is very
46:11
done up in his box rec photo. Is he now? He kinda
46:18
looks... Wow. He looks like a comic book character.
46:23
Yeah, he really does. He looks like a superhero
46:26
in a comic book. I guess we're gonna have to
46:30
cheer for him now. Always have been. Team Scala.
46:39
Scala. Is he a Scala? I don't know. Stupid joke.
46:47
Also, Arizona doesn't have a Boston accent, so
46:50
it doesn't make sense. Did you find a place you
46:56
can actually watch this one, Leo? Or are we just...
46:59
It's on the Starboxing website. nice hopefully
47:05
they don't do another fucking pay -per -view
47:07
they're not expensive but still like dude why
47:11
are you doing this this is gross how how much
47:14
like if it's more than five dollars it's too
47:17
much it's more than five dollars that's too much
47:20
yeah i paid for one of them just because i wanted
47:22
to support but yeah i do like i don't think american
47:29
um boxing has this set up but I do like that
47:34
in Japan you can just give them like a donation
47:37
on their website like when I buy boxing tickets
47:43
there is a little check box and you can check
47:46
the box what do they call them an encouragement
47:50
award and you can just type in whatever amount
47:55
of encouragement you want to add on to the price
47:57
of your boxing ticket that's cool Yeah, I think
48:03
they probably could get some money that way if
48:06
the Americans did it. I assume it's not a thing,
48:12
because I've never seen it with any other sport.
48:15
I have never heard of that before, ever. It's
48:20
very innocuous. It's not as annoying as the please
48:25
donate to the starving children at Walmart. It's
48:29
literally just... as you're scrolling, click
48:32
the box or don't click the box. I never click
48:38
the box. I'm too cheap for that. If I'm going
48:42
to give you money, I want a t -shirt or something.
48:44
Yeah, I want something in return. Yeah. Moving
48:50
to Golden Boy. Last thing on our docket here.
48:56
Best thing of the weekend. Golden Boy on his
48:59
own. There are two fights on here. There's going
49:02
to be more, but I haven't seen the fights listed
49:05
anywhere else. So we've got Gabby Fandora versus
49:09
Alexis Kubicki. Kubicki? Kubicki. I'm going with
49:14
that. Undisputed flyweight title. And Oscar Collazo
49:22
versus Jason Vason. That's his real name. That's
49:30
crazy. That's how it's spelled. Jason Basin.
49:36
Guess where he's from. Without looking. Without
49:40
looking. Who has the weirdest names? Dominican.
49:46
Cuban. No, good guess. Philippines. Oh. His nickname
49:54
is Striker. That's a pretty cool nickname. Jason
49:57
Striker Vason? Yep. He is going to get his ass
50:03
beat. No fucking way he beats Collazo. I really
50:10
like Oscar Collazo. Yeah, he's really exciting.
50:13
I don't think anybody beats him anywhere close
50:16
to his weight class. Which, honestly, probably
50:19
isn't even minimum because he is tiny. Koyaso
50:29
can move up though, couldn't he? He's tiny, tiny,
50:33
Leo. No. He's 5 '2". He's shorter than I am.
50:38
5 '2". He's tiny, tiny. Like, he looks small
50:43
in there at 105 pounds. I thought he was taller.
50:49
He is so small. He is a kidnapping risk. Like,
50:56
fucking anybody could just grab him and run.
51:04
I really like him, though. Going back to the
51:11
Gabi -Fandora fight, I would put money on Fandora
51:16
KO, actually, if you can get it, because she's
51:19
fighting some lady from Slave Lake, Alberta.
51:24
This girl is... a hundred percent like a barista
51:29
oh oh no i have no idea who she is and she fights
51:37
in the river cree casino in edmonton like for
51:42
the last couple years i would put money on a
51:48
gabby knockout yeah I would put that one even
51:55
further. The first one to four. Yeah, I don't
52:01
know. Some of those ladies are pretty tough.
52:06
But I don't think there's any chance that Gabrielle
52:10
loses this one. That's all we got on the docket.
52:20
I think we made good time. Nice. Yeah, I am going
52:27
to the horse races afterwards. I have realized
52:30
that gambling alone in your house by yourself
52:33
is like missing 75 % of the fun. Nothing beats
52:40
going to a racetrack and standing at the railing
52:44
and yelling with people. Yelling at horses. At
52:46
your horse. Yeah, yeah. I'm excited. I am going
52:51
with a couple friends from here who've never
52:54
been to the racetrack. They are going to be embarrassed
52:57
by me, and it's going to be awesome. Kind of
53:01
hoping I can make some friends, go out for beers
53:03
afterwards. Racetracks here close at like 5.
53:06
It's crazy. Let me put some shit in here, because
53:11
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53:59
definitely does happen. It's not very nice, and
54:04
I do absolutely nothing to make it better. I
54:09
enjoy it. I don't contribute. It's not that bad.
54:13
It's not that bad. Yeah. I don't know. It can
54:17
get pretty... Pretty harsh. If you're not an
54:20
asshole, it's not that bad. Right. You just gotta
54:23
take your licks. It'll be fine. Yeah. I mean,
54:27
I think I get more hazing now that I'm not a
54:29
gray than I did when I was gray. But that's it.
54:38
That's it for this edition of Boxing Before Dark.
54:42
My battery is getting low. And it is getting
54:45
dark. We're fucking out of here. Woo!