Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Alabama's Spring Wildfire Season: Expert Tips from the Forestry Commission - TPR's In Focus - April 2, 2026
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- 0:14From Troy Public Radio, this is In Focus, and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:20Spring has brought warm temperatures, high winds, drought conditions, and wildfires,
- 0:27so we asked John Goff, Protection Division Director at the Alabama Forestry Commission,
- 0:33for his advice. We talked with John earlier this week on his way
- 0:37back from checking on a wildfire, and he joined us from his truck.
- 0:43John, thanks for joining us from the Alabama Forestry Commission.
- 0:47Glad to be here.
- 0:48John, you've been checking areas of the state that have been experiencing drought and wildfires.
- 0:53What have you found?
- 0:55Right now, we have approximately 47, I believe, fires that we're currently monitoring. Those
- 1:01total up to about 5,000 acres. One fire in particular is about 2,500 acres. We were actually
- 1:09up in Shelby County yesterday doing the final burnout, and hopefully have contained that fire.
- 1:15What is involved in fighting a fire of that magnitude?
- 1:20Well, when you get one over a large area like that, it's pretty tough. You have to have a lot
- 1:25more people on scene to monitor all the lines, so there's fire on all sides of that 2,500 acres.
- 1:32It starts taking a lot of people and resources to be able to keep eyes on it the whole time.
- 1:36So just yesterday, I think there were three bulldozers and maybe around 10 people. We had
- 1:42a drone up, tons of side-by-sides, a few four-wheelers, so a lot of people, a lot of moving
- 1:48parts.
- 1:49Tell me about the safety angle.
- 1:51So we try to do everything we can to train our guys so they're ready for anything that they
- 1:57encounter. Just being in the woods and being on equipment in itself is hazardous.
- 2:02While the woods are on fire, it throws it into a totally different realm. But our guys are
- 2:07trained. They're trained on how fire behaves and how you can manipulate fire. Situational
- 2:13awareness and communication is what it all boils down to. If you have that, then you're going to
- 2:18be able to be safe. But if you can keep good communication going and everybody knows what
- 2:23everybody's doing, it kind of takes care of itself.
- 2:26In the case of that huge fire in Shelby County with that team that you sent, how long did
- 2:33it take to contain it?
- 2:34So it was a control burn that was done last Tuesday. A few days later, the fire got out
- 2:41and we went to it on Friday. Crews are still up there actively trying to suppress the jump
- 2:47from the prescribed fire. What makes that spot so difficult, it got a lot of size on it
- 2:53and the terrain. Really hilly, mountainous terrain. So you have to be selective about
- 2:58where your fire lines go and how you go about doing things because the terrain limits where
- 3:03you can put a bulldozer. So you have to get a little more tactical in where you put the
- 3:07lines in and then you have to do burnouts to control those lines.
- 3:11When these wildland firefighters are battling a blaze that big, how long is their day?
- 3:17I'd say like a typical volunteer fire department, those guys are your first line of defense,
- 3:22right? If you have a fire behind your house or something gets out, like you call 9-1-1,
- 3:28a fire department goes on scene. That's who goes first. If it gets in the woods or is
- 3:33beyond their capability, then their 9-1-1 center calls our dispatch center. That's
- 3:39usually how it works and then we get in route. So for most average fires, 5, 10, even 20
- 3:46acres, I think our average fire size is around 20 acres. So you have a lot of small ones and
- 3:51you have some big ones thrown in there. But you could probably expect, no matter what the size,
- 3:56to probably be there about four hours. With this drought that we're facing, how likely
- 4:01are we to have fires? In Alabama, you're never more than two weeks away from a drought.
- 4:06So anytime you start seeing that, you start really getting elevated fire conditions. Things
- 4:12are greening up, but we're in desperate need of some rain to kind of temper things down.
- 4:17You will always have a spring and a fall fire season. High winds, low humidity, that's your
- 4:23big drivers. And if the grass has not greened up, which is pretty green down in your listening area,
- 4:29Montgomery South, it's greening up pretty good. But mid to north Alabama, it still looks like
- 4:35winter if you drive up above Birmingham. Our fire season sort of sweeps across the state in
- 4:40different areas at different times. So in the last 30 days, we've had 346 fires for 7,000 acres.
- 4:49It seems like we've had more larger fires this year. On average, the Forest Commission will
- 4:54respond to probably 2,000, 2,500 fires every year. And those acres can range from 20,000 acres,
- 5:0225,000 acres, and it can get on upwards of 60,000 acres. It just depends. It's all weather driven.
- 5:09Could you give the landowners some advice? So as far as advice for landowners, I would say make
- 5:16sure you're aware of the current conditions when you call in and get a permit. And listen to whoever
- 5:23is issuing you that permit. If there's a weather alert or something you need to know about the
- 5:28weather, they're going to tell you if there's a warning or something you should proceed with
- 5:33caution. So listen to them and take their advice. But the biggest thing I think that people overlook
- 5:39is today may be a pretty good burning day, but you need to look four or five days down the line.
- 5:45So it may be perfect today. There may not be any rain in the forecast for seven days. Well, if
- 5:52that's the case, then for the next week, your fire could potentially get out and cause you problems
- 5:58days after the fact. Just keep in mind, not only look at conditions right now, but kind of be
- 6:04forward thinking a little bit. And hasn't the Alabama Forestry Commission pulled back on
- 6:10issuing burn permits? We did. Here recently, well this year and last year, we've tried to be a lot
- 6:16more proactive in turning permits on and off. Just for instance, this last Saturday was a really bad
- 6:24fire day. Really high winds, really low humidity. So we put an advisory out for Friday and limited
- 6:31permits Friday and cut out permits Saturday. And then Sunday, we limited permits again. And then
- 6:38Monday, we opened permitting back up. You have people listening to you who may not be rural
- 6:44landowners, but they may be homeowners. What advice do you have for them? If you're a homeowner, and
- 6:50we call it the wildland urban interface, but a lot of people are out of the city into the country,
- 6:56and you'll have five, ten acre lots, and people will plop a house right in the middle of that.
- 7:01The way to think about being fire ready for your house, firewise, whatever you want to call it,
- 7:06is if you were not there and a fire came into your yard, would your house survive that with nobody
- 7:13being there? And that's what you want. You want defensible space. So you want a good distance
- 7:19between the woods and your house. You want it to be free of debris. You don't want a solid bed of
- 7:25pine straw going from the woods all the way under your back deck that's wooden. You just keep it
- 7:30cleaned out around your house and your grass down, and you should be okay. One of the tools that the
- 7:36Alabama Forestry Commission is quite familiar with is prescribed burns. What do they do?
- 7:42The number one best thing you can do for the environment, for timber, for wildlife, for
- 7:51aesthetics, the entire southeast used to burn probably anywhere from a one to two, one to three
- 7:57year rotation, at least once every five to ten years as you get further away from the coast. But
- 8:03the reason we had the woods that we had 150 years ago was because of fire, and the way to get those
- 8:09back is because of fire. So with that comes a lot of responsibility, and we need to do things the
- 8:15right way. Just urge caution. I encourage everybody, if you're interested in burning, get up with your
- 8:22Forestry Commission, either Georgia or the Florida Forest Service or the Alabama Forestry Commission,
- 8:27and they will educate you. We have classes. They can give you a list of consultant foresters or
- 8:32consultant burn managers. You can figure out how to put fire on your property and do it safely.
- 8:38Well, obviously, a lot of teamwork is involved between the volunteer firefighters,
- 8:45professional firefighters, wildland firefighters to keep us all safe. You know, volunteer fire guys
- 8:51and the state firefighters, Forestry Commission boys, they do a lot of work, and you
- 8:56got to love it. It is work, but it is very fun work to go out in the middle of the woods in a place
- 9:03that you've never been before, and you have to figure out how to traverse the terrain, find the
- 9:08hazards, and put a fire out in a place that you've never been and probably never will go back to.
- 9:13So it's definitely challenging, and those guys do a very, very good job. Thank you so much for
- 9:21joining us today. Thank you. That was John Goff, Protection Division Director at the Alabama
- 9:27Forestry Commission. More information can be found at the forestry.alabama.gov website.
- 9:35Thanks for joining us today for In Focus, which is a podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
- 9:41I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is listener-supported Troy Public Radio.