Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Reflecting on Jimmy Carter's Passing, plus Washington Post Absurdly Tries to Re-Write History to Defend Biden
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
- 0:04Speaker 1: with you and Senator this is the last podcast we
- 0:07Speaker 1: are going to do in twenty twenty four. It has
- 0:10Speaker 1: been a year that has been filled with in insane stories,
- 0:14Speaker 1: an unbelievable election, and also today we found out about
- 0:18Speaker 1: the passing of a former president of the United States
- 0:21Speaker 1: of America, Jimmy Carter.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and so we're going to reflect today
- 0:25Speaker 2: on the passing of Jimmy Carter. We're also going to
- 0:27Speaker 2: talk about at just an extraordinary article in the Washington
- 0:31Speaker 2: Post that was an attempt to whitewash all four years
- 0:34Speaker 2: of Joe Biden's presidency. It may be the single most
- 0:38Speaker 2: dishonest journalistic piece I've seen, and also the most screamingly
- 0:42Speaker 2: funny pretense at journalism I've seen in years. We're gonna
- 0:47Speaker 2: talk about that in depth. All that coming up.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Yeah, it truly is amazing to see what the media
- 0:53Speaker 1: will cover now that there's no consequences to doing the
- 0:57Speaker 1: stories on Joe Biden the way they should have long
- 1:00Speaker 1: before now. But let's move back to what we mentioned
- 1:03Speaker 1: a moment ago, and that is the life and legacy
- 1:06Speaker 1: of Jimmy Carter. He was a thirty ninth president of
- 1:09Speaker 1: the United States of America. He made it to the
- 1:12Speaker 1: incredible age of one hundred. That is how old he
- 1:16Speaker 1: is the day he passed. And I tell you, Jimmy Carter,
- 1:20Speaker 1: it's an interesting legacy because he was one of the
- 1:23Speaker 1: most unpopular presidents when he left office and certainly in
- 1:27Speaker 1: modern political history. But his legacy that he left behind
- 1:32Speaker 1: is actually incredible. It's extraordinary what he did after leaving
- 1:36Speaker 1: the White House.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Well.
- 1:38Speaker 2: James Earl Carter Junior was born on October first, nineteen
- 1:41Speaker 2: twenty four. He was born in Plains, Georgia, and he
- 1:44Speaker 2: lived one hundred years. He died on December twenty ninth,
- 1:47Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. He was age one hundred. He was
- 1:51Speaker 2: the oldest former president to have ever lived. No president
- 1:54Speaker 2: lived to one hundred other than him. And he also
- 1:58Speaker 2: has an interesting statistic and Rosalind Carter where the president
- 2:03Speaker 2: and first lady who were married the longest. They got
- 2:06Speaker 2: married in the year nineteen forty six and she died
- 2:10Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. She died last year, so they
- 2:12Speaker 2: were married seventy seven years. That's the longest any president,
- 2:15Speaker 2: first lady, I've ever been married. And you know, I
- 2:18Speaker 2: got to say, in talking about Jimmy Carter, there's a
- 2:23Speaker 2: lot that I certainly want to honor. I want to
- 2:26Speaker 2: honor his military service. He is a graduate of the
- 2:30Speaker 2: United States Naval Academy. He was in the Navy. He
- 2:33Speaker 2: was active duty from nineteen forty six to nineteen fifty three.
- 2:37Speaker 2: He was in the reserves from nineteen fifty three to
- 2:40Speaker 2: nineteen sixty one. He was a sub mariner. He was
- 2:43Speaker 2: one of the very first sub mariners, and he had
- 2:46Speaker 2: honorable service. And then he returned to Georgia and became
- 2:50Speaker 2: a peanut farmer, joined the family's family farm, and ended
- 2:54Speaker 2: up going into politics and running for state Senate, running
- 2:57Speaker 2: for governor, and then running a a scrappy grassroots campaign
- 3:02Speaker 2: and really shocking the world as an unknown Southern governor,
- 3:06Speaker 2: getting the Democrat nomination for president in nineteen seventy six
- 3:11Speaker 2: and being elected president. And you know, I will say,
- 3:16Speaker 2: look at it, it is no secret that I have
- 3:19Speaker 2: strong disagreements with Jimmy Carter's policy decisions and so but
- 3:24Speaker 2: and I've detailed those at length before. I'm not going
- 3:27Speaker 2: to choose the moment of his passing to go into that,
- 3:30Speaker 2: I'm simply going to honor his life. He had honorable
- 3:34Speaker 2: service defending our nation. He had honorable service in public office.
- 3:40Speaker 2: And you know, I will say, look, I never met
- 3:42Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter. I did not know him personally, but he
- 3:46Speaker 2: always struck me as an honest, honorable man. Was he
- 3:52Speaker 2: was very open about his faith. He was a Southern Baptist.
- 3:55Speaker 2: He in nineteen seventy six. It was a bit of
- 3:59Speaker 2: a shocking thing nationally that he described himself as a
- 4:02Speaker 2: born again Christian, and that was a a a new
- 4:05Speaker 2: thing in politics.
- 4:07Speaker 3: And and he was.
- 4:08Speaker 2: He taught Sunday school right up almost to the moment
- 4:11Speaker 2: of his death, until his health finally prevented him from
- 4:13Speaker 2: doing so. You're right that that that his legacy after
- 4:18Speaker 2: the White House was remarkable, and he did a lot
- 4:22Speaker 2: of things, I think most notably with Habitat for Humanity.
- 4:25Speaker 2: He put enormous for decades. He was very focused on
- 4:28Speaker 2: building homes for those in need.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Uh.
- 4:31Speaker 2: And I will say he also did not as a
- 4:33Speaker 2: former president. He didn't go out and and and seek
- 4:36Speaker 2: the limelight excessively. He wasn't a vocal critic of his
- 4:41Speaker 2: successors and and I think all of that, all of
- 4:45Speaker 2: that is is to be commended, even if even if
- 4:48Speaker 2: the policy decisions he made are different than than than
- 4:52Speaker 2: those you and I might have chosen to make. I'll
- 4:55Speaker 2: tell you two interesting things. Number One, do you know
- 4:59Speaker 2: who else was worn on the very same day Jimmy
- 5:01Speaker 2: Carter was born on October first, nineteen twenty four.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Who I have no idea?
- 5:08Speaker 2: Well, we've talked about this before. I you know, I
- 5:10Speaker 2: give friends grief. Sometimes I'm like, don't you bother to
- 5:13Speaker 2: listen to the podcast? And I'm gonna ask you, ben,
- 5:14Speaker 2: don't you bother to listen or to our podcast?
- 5:16Speaker 3: And we've talked about that.
- 5:20Speaker 1: On the set up And this is the moment if
- 5:23Speaker 1: anyone's listening right now, if you want to know what
- 5:25Speaker 1: is set up from Center Cruz sounds like I get
- 5:28Speaker 1: the experiences more than almost anyone else in the world.
- 5:32Speaker 1: This is a setup and this is how it always
- 5:35Speaker 1: plays out. So you've all been warned. This is that moment.
- 5:38Speaker 1: If you're a dinner with him, you know it's coming,
- 5:41Speaker 1: So go ahead. I cannot wait to hear this answer.
- 5:44Speaker 2: So Jimmy Carter was born on the very same day
- 5:47Speaker 2: that William Hubbs Renquist, the sixteenth Chief Justice of the
- 5:50Speaker 2: United States, was born. And as you know, Chief Justice
- 5:54Speaker 2: Renquist was was my former boss, and I knew him well.
- 5:57Speaker 2: And he passed a long time ago, so I mean,
- 5:59Speaker 2: he did not live to a hundred And I wrote
- 6:03Speaker 2: a couple of different obituaries for Chief Justice Renquist when
- 6:06Speaker 2: he passed, and noted in one of the obituaries that
- 6:09Speaker 2: I wrote that he and Jimmy Carter were born on
- 6:12Speaker 2: the exact same day. And so that gives a sense
- 6:15Speaker 2: of the length of time and service that Jimmy Carter served.
- 6:20Speaker 2: But I'll tell you secondly, so Jimmy Carter, interestingly is
- 6:26Speaker 2: intimately connected to my very first political memory in life.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Really how so, so my first political memory, and in
- 6:36Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six is my mother voted for Jimmy Carter.
- 6:41Speaker 2: And my mother was a Republican, but she just thought
- 6:45Speaker 2: Gerald Ford was an idiot. She did not like Ford.
- 6:48Speaker 2: She just thought he was not all that bright, and
- 6:51Speaker 2: she thought Carter seemed like a very nice man, and
- 6:53Speaker 2: so she voted for Carter. And what I remember, so
- 6:56Speaker 2: at the time, my dad, who you know, as you know,
- 6:59Speaker 2: is from Cuba. He was a Canadian citizen at the time.
- 7:01Speaker 2: They'd moved to Canada and started a business in Canada,
- 7:04Speaker 2: and so he was not a US citizen at the time.
- 7:06Speaker 2: And I remember my dad and my mom having an
- 7:10Speaker 2: argument in the living room because my father was horrified
- 7:14Speaker 2: that she had voted for Jimmy Carter, and and because
- 7:18Speaker 2: she was an American citizen and he was not at
- 7:20Speaker 2: the time. He is now, but he wasn't then. He
- 7:23Speaker 2: felt like she had the family vote, and so he
- 7:26Speaker 2: was really I just remember them fighting back and forth.
- 7:28Speaker 2: My mother came to regret that particular vote, But my
- 7:31Speaker 2: first awareness that politics existed was wondering why my father
- 7:37Speaker 2: was so upset that that that my mother had voted
- 7:39Speaker 2: for Jimmy Carter.
- 7:41Speaker 1: That's really interesting. My first interaction with Jimmy Jimmy Carter
- 7:44Speaker 1: was actually, of all things, you laugh because if you
- 7:47Speaker 1: if you've ever met my sister, she's not exactly the
- 7:51Speaker 1: most political person. She's interested the school teacher, and she
- 7:55Speaker 1: kind of laughs at how different our lives are. But
- 7:58Speaker 1: she met a president of the units It's America before
- 8:01Speaker 1: I ever did, and it was Jimmy Carter at the
- 8:04Speaker 1: Memphis College of Art, where I think one of his
- 8:07Speaker 1: children or grandchildren, was at school. He had come down
- 8:11Speaker 1: for an event. She happened to be there and got
- 8:13Speaker 1: his autograph when she was like, I think seven or
- 8:15Speaker 1: eight years old. And so.
- 8:18Speaker 2: He was a nice man.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Oh set, he was so nice. He talked to her
- 8:22Speaker 1: for a minute and chatted and they talked about Memphis
- 8:25Speaker 1: and asked what she was studying and was she doing art,
- 8:28Speaker 1: And so to this day she's always like, you know,
- 8:31Speaker 1: you may have met a lot of political people, but
- 8:33Speaker 1: I just went to remind you I met a president
- 8:36Speaker 1: long before you ever did, which is true because I
- 8:38Speaker 1: didn't meet a president for another I don't know, fifteen years.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Well, and look that that's consistent with it with everything
- 8:44Speaker 2: I've ever heard, I've never heard of him being unpleasant
- 8:47Speaker 2: to anyone.
- 8:48Speaker 3: You know.
- 8:48Speaker 2: One of the things I saw on Twitter today was
- 8:51Speaker 2: videos of him coming on to a commercial flight on
- 8:56Speaker 2: Delta and just stopping and shaking hands with everyone in
- 8:59Speaker 2: the seats going through, which seems very consistent with everything
- 9:04Speaker 2: about his character that I knew about. You know, Donald
- 9:07Speaker 2: Trump sent out a tweet that I thought was was
- 9:13Speaker 2: very well done. Here's what Trump wrote, quote, I just
- 9:16Speaker 2: heard of the news about the passing of President Jimmy Carter.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Those of us who have been fortunate to have served
- 9:21Speaker 2: as president understand that this is a very exclusive club,
- 9:24Speaker 2: and only we can relate to the enormous responsibility of
- 9:27Speaker 2: leading the greatest nation in history. The challenges Jimmy faced
- 9:31Speaker 2: as president came at a pivotal time for our country,
- 9:35Speaker 2: and he did everything in his power to improve the
- 9:37Speaker 2: lives of all Americans. For that, we all owe him
- 9:41Speaker 2: a debt of gratitude. Milanie and I are thinking warmly
- 9:44Speaker 2: of the Carter family and their loved ones during this
- 9:46Speaker 2: difficult time. We urge everyone to keep them in their
- 9:49Speaker 2: hearts and prayers. And I got to say what I
- 9:51Speaker 2: like about that statement, in particular, is the second paragraph.
- 9:57Speaker 2: The challenges Jimmy faced as president came at a pivotal
- 10:01Speaker 2: time for our country, unquestionably true. And he did everything
- 10:05Speaker 2: in his power to improve the lives of all Americans.
- 10:08Speaker 2: And I think that's a very nice way to compliment him,
- 10:11Speaker 2: because I think he did believe he was improving the
- 10:14Speaker 2: lives of all Americans. Now, Trump did not say his
- 10:16Speaker 2: policy succeeded in that, but he was earnest in his
- 10:20Speaker 2: desire and effort, And I thought that was a nice
- 10:23Speaker 2: way for Trump to compliment it.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is, and I will say is divided
- 10:29Speaker 1: as politics has been. It is cool to see a
- 10:31Speaker 1: former president put politics aside in many ways later in
- 10:36Speaker 1: his career and his legacy and work with building homes
- 10:40Speaker 1: and bringing people together in that way. I know several
- 10:43Speaker 1: people that had the opportunity to help build a home
- 10:45Speaker 1: with him, Habitat for Humanity many different places around the country,
- 10:49Speaker 1: and it really is cool to see that legacy. So
- 10:52Speaker 1: our thoughts and our prayers are with the family, obviously
- 10:56Speaker 1: of Jimmy Carter. And any time you have a president
- 10:58Speaker 1: of the United States of America passed way, it's always important.
- 11:01Speaker 1: I think we just take a moment pause and say,
- 11:04Speaker 1: job well done. I mean, to live one hundred years
- 11:07Speaker 1: is incredible. To be a president of the United States
- 11:09Speaker 1: of America, the thirty ninth president, incredible, and to do
- 11:12Speaker 1: what he did after he left the White House really remaking.
- 11:15Speaker 1: I think how people would remember him, because they don't
- 11:17Speaker 1: really remember the political stuff in the seventies and what
- 11:22Speaker 1: brought us Ron Reagan. They remember I think that he
- 11:24Speaker 1: built a lot of To be.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Clear, Skippy, you weren't alive then so so you definitely
- 11:28Speaker 2: don't remember it eighty one.
- 11:30Speaker 1: I'm mean eighty one, but my, oh my, did I
- 11:32Speaker 1: hear the stories? I heard the stories. All right, let's get.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Well, well, the Reagan Revolution doesn't doesn't make sense without
- 11:40Speaker 2: the car to predicate. But but that's that's another story
- 11:43Speaker 2: for another day. So let's move to the Washington Post.
- 11:47Speaker 2: And I'm going to do something unusual on this podcast.
- 11:49Speaker 2: So I read this article and my head exploded, and
- 11:54Speaker 2: I texted you and said, this is the most absurd
- 11:59Speaker 2: self set arising article I've ever seen. So I just
- 12:02Speaker 2: want to go through it literally, line by line. This
- 12:05Speaker 2: is a major story in the Washington Post banner headline
- 12:09Speaker 2: on Drudge and it is entitled We're just going to
- 12:12Speaker 2: go through sentence by sentence. It's entitled how Biden leads
- 12:17Speaker 2: Joe Biden's lonely battle to sell his vision of American democracy.
- 12:21Speaker 2: In his presidency's final chapter, Biden has mused about whether
- 12:25Speaker 2: he should have handled some decisions differently. And the guy
- 12:29Speaker 2: who wrote this is a guy named Tyler Pager. We're
- 12:31Speaker 2: going to come back to him later. So let's start earlier.
- 12:35Speaker 2: This year, Representative James E. Clyburn met President Joe Biden
- 12:38Speaker 2: at the White House to deliver a stern message Biden
- 12:41Speaker 2: had to find a way to revitalize his flagging campaign.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Clyburn who had been pivotal to Biden's twenty twenty victory,
- 12:47Speaker 2: also made a confession about his own long standing belief
- 12:50Speaker 2: that substance is more important than style and politics.
- 12:53Speaker 3: Quote.
- 12:53Speaker 2: I've come to the conclusion in recent days that I'm
- 12:55Speaker 2: wrong about that, the South Carolina Democrat eighty four remembers,
- 12:59Speaker 2: telling Biden the new environment that we currently live in,
- 13:02Speaker 2: style seems to carry the day more than substance. Your style,
- 13:06Speaker 2: he told the President, does not lend itself well to
- 13:09Speaker 2: the environment we're currently in. Clyburne's conclusion, which was shared
- 13:13Speaker 2: by anxious Democrats in the months before the president ended
- 13:16Speaker 2: his reelection bid, undermined brought Biden's theory of presidential leadership.
- 13:21Speaker 2: After Donald Trump's assent, Biden believed that he just needed
- 13:25Speaker 2: to show Americans that traditional democracy still worked by listening,
- 13:31Speaker 2: but two experts working with Republicans passing popular policies, and
- 13:36Speaker 2: voters would rally around him. Right, let's stop there. Okay,
- 13:40Speaker 2: so so far every word of this article, if this
- 13:44Speaker 2: was written by the Biden Press office, it would not
- 13:46Speaker 2: be any different. And this entire article is hagiography. This
- 13:50Speaker 2: entire article is not journalism. It is not only trying
- 13:55Speaker 2: to praise breathlessly as we're going to go through Joe
- 13:59Speaker 2: Biden and cas tim as a mighty titan, but it
- 14:03Speaker 2: is profoundly dishonest. So it starts with the frame that
- 14:08Speaker 2: Biden's great success is on substance, not style. And the
- 14:12Speaker 2: obvious implication of which we're going to get more is
- 14:14Speaker 2: that all Trump has his style. There's no substance. That's
- 14:17Speaker 2: the obvious implication. Let's take this last sentence after Donald
- 14:21Speaker 2: Trump's assent, Biden believed he just needed to show Americans
- 14:25Speaker 2: that traditional democracy still worked.
- 14:28Speaker 3: We're going to get more into democracy a second.
- 14:30Speaker 2: By listening to experts, working with Republicans and passing popular policies.
- 14:36Speaker 2: All right, what experts did he listen to? He did
- 14:39Speaker 2: not work with Republicans. Every damned thing he passed he
- 14:42Speaker 2: rammed through on a vicious party line vote. He used
- 14:45Speaker 2: budget reconciliation over and over again with no Republicans and
- 14:49Speaker 2: passing popular policies. Nobody helped Donald Trump get elected more
- 14:54Speaker 2: than Joseph Robinette Biden Junior, because his policies were so
- 14:58Speaker 2: incredibly unpopular.
- 15:00Speaker 3: All right, let's keep going back to the article.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Quote he succeeded in phase one of his plan? Did
- 15:07Speaker 2: he now enacting legislation, much of it bipartisan, to reshape
- 15:12Speaker 2: the nation's infrastructure, revive the semiconductor industry, and fight climate change.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Let's be clear the climate change. The Inflation Reduction Act
- 15:21Speaker 2: was a straight party line vote rammed through in reconciliation.
- 15:25Speaker 2: But phase two never happened. The truth of Biden's presidency
- 15:29Speaker 2: is that he has failed in what, by his own count,
- 15:33Speaker 2: his most important mission, making Trump's presidency seem like an aberration.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Quote he governed through traditional processes and institutions, said Julians E. Zellezer,
- 15:45Speaker 2: a moron presidential historian at Princeton University. It doesn't say moron,
- 15:49Speaker 2: but you're going to see that everything this guy says.
- 15:52Speaker 2: I know he's sadly a professor at my alma mater.
- 15:54Speaker 2: He's a complete moron. Let's start with the traditional processes
- 15:57Speaker 2: and institutions. There's nothing traditional about weaponizing the federal government
- 16:05Speaker 2: to go after your opponents. There's nothing traditional about prosecuting
- 16:08Speaker 2: and indicting the former president over and over and over again.
- 16:12Speaker 2: There's nothing traditional and using the institutions about opening the
- 16:17Speaker 2: border and having an invasion of our country. But here
- 16:21Speaker 2: the good Princeton professor quote, it didn't change the picture
- 16:24Speaker 2: where he started this anger in the electorate towards institution.
- 16:28Speaker 2: This support for a pretty radical conservative vision that Trump embodied,
- 16:33Speaker 2: it didn't do anything to end the very intense polarization
- 16:37Speaker 2: that exists in this country.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Now.
- 16:39Speaker 2: The idea that Trump is a radical conservative is a
- 16:42Speaker 2: bizarre idea. Trump ran on securing the border, bringing down inflation,
- 16:47Speaker 2: standing with our friends, and defeating our enemies. That is
- 16:50Speaker 2: that is very hard to characterize as a quote radical
- 16:53Speaker 2: conservative vision. But hey, the Princeton professor says it, and
- 16:57Speaker 2: the Washington Post breathlessly sports it. We're gonna go on,
- 17:01Speaker 2: but give me your thoughts so far, then we'll go
- 17:03Speaker 2: back to the article.
- 17:05Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that this is how they want to
- 17:08Speaker 1: just rewrite history part of this and just be be
- 17:11Speaker 1: so delusional. I am a little bit.
- 17:14Speaker 3: It gets worse.
- 17:15Speaker 1: I'm a little bit shocked though. If they like you
- 17:19Speaker 1: know how you're supposed to like proofread before you print.
- 17:23Speaker 1: If you're reading what you just wrote. That you just read.
- 17:27Speaker 1: I would think there would be a moment where you
- 17:29Speaker 1: might be like, I don't know if this needs to
- 17:31Speaker 1: see the light of day. Yet here it is. They
- 17:33Speaker 1: put it out there.
- 17:35Speaker 2: All right, Let's keep going because it gets much much worse.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Previous articles in this series examine the pillars. Oh, they're
- 17:42Speaker 2: so strong. The pillars, the pillars of Biden's leadership, how
- 17:46Speaker 2: he absorbs information, how he makes decisions, how he communicates
- 17:50Speaker 2: with Americans.
- 17:51Speaker 3: They showed that Biden.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Even at the peak of his glorious magnificent power, doesn't
- 17:55Speaker 2: say glorious magnificent, but it's just implied, struggled mightily to
- 17:59Speaker 2: communicated his decisions and vision. This article, based on interviews
- 18:03Speaker 2: with more than two thousand people close to Biden, reveals
- 18:06Speaker 2: the ways in which his theory of how to succeed
- 18:08Speaker 2: in an era of American politics dominated by Trump fell
- 18:11Speaker 2: apart in the final phase of his presidency, and how
- 18:15Speaker 2: he's been publicly and privately rethinking whether he should have
- 18:17Speaker 2: handled some decisions differently even some of his closest advisers
- 18:22Speaker 2: without faulting. Biden conceded recently that his style of governing
- 18:25Speaker 2: did not always mesh with today's politics. Quote, the president
- 18:31Speaker 2: has been operating on a time horizon measured in decades,
- 18:35Speaker 2: while the political cycle is measured in four years. Jake Sullivan,
- 18:40Speaker 2: Biden's national security advisor, said, with his lips planted firmly
- 18:44Speaker 2: on Biden's rear end. That last piece was my com Like,
- 18:49Speaker 2: I want to go back in and listen to that
- 18:50Speaker 2: sentence again. The president has been operating on a time
- 18:55Speaker 2: horizon measured in decades, while the political cycle is made
- 19:00Speaker 2: in four years.
- 19:01Speaker 3: Now.
- 19:02Speaker 2: Look, kudos to the Biden White House for just having
- 19:06Speaker 2: the hutzpah to say, oh, Biden's presidency would be hysteric,
- 19:11Speaker 2: and you know, you really have to measure decades. Twelve
- 19:13Speaker 2: million people invading this country. Four years is too short
- 19:16Speaker 2: to measure it. We're going to screw up this country
- 19:18Speaker 2: for decades, you know, undermining our allies, causing two wars,
- 19:24Speaker 2: a war in Ukraine and a war in Gaza. Like,
- 19:26Speaker 2: you're right, the the harm from Biden will last decades.
- 19:31Speaker 2: But that's their entire spin. Well, yes, everything Biden did
- 19:37Speaker 2: was profoundly unpopular because all of his policies failed, but
- 19:41Speaker 2: he's really playing the long game. You foolish people don't
- 19:45Speaker 2: understand this. This this misery.
- 19:48Speaker 3: Is good for you. All right, Let's let's keep going.
- 19:51Speaker 2: Sullivan added that Biden's accomplishments, by their nature, will take
- 19:56Speaker 2: a long time to bear fruit. Quote how to govern
- 19:59Speaker 2: it this moment to set the US up for long
- 20:02Speaker 2: term success has one answer, and how to deal with
- 20:05Speaker 2: midterm and presidential elections in the very short term might
- 20:08Speaker 2: have a different answer. He said, the president went with
- 20:11Speaker 2: doing things that really put America in a strong position. Ben,
- 20:17Speaker 2: what the hell have they done to put America in
- 20:19Speaker 2: a strong position in every.
- 20:21Speaker 3: Part of the world.
- 20:23Speaker 2: America is weaker today than when Joe Biden entered the
- 20:26Speaker 2: White House. Like, this is absurd. And I got to say,
- 20:31Speaker 2: the absurd thing We're gonna go back to this in
- 20:33Speaker 2: a minute, is the Washington Post just publishes this drivel
- 20:38Speaker 2: like its news. That there's not a moment of reflection,
- 20:42Speaker 2: there's not a moment of facts, that there's not a
- 20:47Speaker 2: moment of reality, And it's I mean, how do you
- 20:53Speaker 2: react to that that, oh, he's playing the long game.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there's two things here. One, there's a
- 21:02Speaker 1: part of me that's like I can't believe it, And
- 21:04Speaker 1: then there's another part of me it's like good, because
- 21:07Speaker 1: if you don't learn from your losses, then you're going
- 21:11Speaker 1: to repeat the same mistakes that you just made. And
- 21:13Speaker 1: I think the Democratic Party learned nothing from November. Nothing
- 21:17Speaker 1: from losing the popular vote, nothing from the resurrection of
- 21:20Speaker 1: Donald Trump, from from two thy to twenty twenty four,
- 21:24Speaker 1: nothing from weaponizing the government, nothing from overspinning and no accountability,
- 21:28Speaker 1: and honestly nothing, They've learned nothing from having a president
- 21:31Speaker 1: that quickly was incapacitated. So part of me is like good, Yeah,
- 21:35Speaker 1: keep writing these types of articles because it's gonna help
- 21:38Speaker 1: conservatives like you and I be able to be way
- 21:41Speaker 1: more successful in getting this country back on track.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Well, the Ben the Post just reported that he absorbed
- 21:48Speaker 2: information like you know, some some sort of nobel you know, scientists,
- 21:53Speaker 2: Like just all right, let's let's go back. As his
- 21:57Speaker 2: presidency and his fifty year political career down far faster
- 22:01Speaker 2: than he wanted, Biden's taken to acknowledging some strategic mistakes,
- 22:04Speaker 2: both big and small. Many of those missteps resulted from
- 22:07Speaker 2: his determination to restore the age old rules of the
- 22:11Speaker 2: American presidency after Trump's term, a determination that many of
- 22:15Speaker 2: his supporters in retrospect consider a politically fatal error. All right,
- 22:20Speaker 2: so what are the age old rules of the American
- 22:22Speaker 2: presidency that he returned to earlier this month in a
- 22:26Speaker 2: speech on his economic legacy, Biden admitted he was stupid
- 22:31Speaker 2: for not putting his own name on the pandemic relief
- 22:33Speaker 2: checks his administration sent out in twenty twenty one. Yeah,
- 22:37Speaker 2: that really was the problem. He just didn't sign the checks. Clearly,
- 22:40Speaker 2: Kamala would have won if Biden had just signed those checks.
- 22:43Speaker 2: That that was the pivotal issue.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Damn it.
- 22:47Speaker 2: I didn't see Joe Biden's name on those checks, so
- 22:49Speaker 2: forget it. But hey, Trump, by contrast, made a point
- 22:53Speaker 2: of signing his own relief checks in twenty twenty, and
- 22:55Speaker 2: Biden suggested that Trump got more credit for the economic
- 22:58Speaker 2: recovery because of it.
- 22:59Speaker 3: Balderdawn.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Biden acknowledged that he had quote screwed up. It is
- 23:04Speaker 2: June twenty seventh debate against Trump. You think as he
- 23:07Speaker 2: struggled to put together sentences and defend his policies as
- 23:10Speaker 2: his rivals held forth with a series of falsehoods. Evil
- 23:14Speaker 2: liar who I hate named Donald Trump. That is not
- 23:17Speaker 2: there it's just implied and called him a criminal. He
- 23:20Speaker 2: does not regret participating in the debate Justice performance that night.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Now at this point, there's a breakout quote, and you
- 23:28Speaker 2: know what the breakout quote is. It's Jake Sullivan saying
- 23:31Speaker 2: the president is operating on a time horizon measured in decades,
- 23:34Speaker 2: while the political cycle is measured in four years. So
- 23:37Speaker 2: if you missed the central political spin from the White House,
- 23:41Speaker 2: then well that's your problem.
- 23:44Speaker 3: Let's keep going.
- 23:45Speaker 2: He is also mused on changes in the media, arguing
- 23:48Speaker 2: that he did not get enough credit for his accomplishments,
- 23:50Speaker 2: especially on the economy, but inciting examples like Richard M.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Nixon's nineteen sixty debate against John F. Kennedy, Biden has
- 23:57Speaker 2: suggested that, like Nixon, he has struggled to a to
- 24:00Speaker 2: a new media landscape. We pick what news we want
- 24:03Speaker 2: to hear. It's a totally different deal, Biden said in
- 24:05Speaker 2: a podcast interview this month.
- 24:07Speaker 3: We've got to figure out how we deal with.
- 24:08Speaker 2: This significant technological change. If Nixon was more accustomed to television,
- 24:12Speaker 2: he wouldn't have perspired so much, and he would be president.
- 24:16Speaker 3: When he beat Kennedy.
- 24:17Speaker 2: I know that sounds silly, but think of the changes
- 24:19Speaker 2: taking place. Where do you go what is true? We
- 24:21Speaker 2: have no evidence anymore. I'm not sure how that gets resolved.
- 24:24Speaker 2: The President and his aides have acknowledged that they struggled
- 24:27Speaker 2: to communicate. See, that's the whole problem. The record was phenomenal.
- 24:31Speaker 2: They just failed to communicate it. Struggle to communicate about
- 24:34Speaker 2: the administration's efforts to lift the country out of the pandemic.
- 24:38Speaker 2: Frustrated that even as the United States fared better than
- 24:41Speaker 2: other countries, Americans did not feel the impact psychologically. You idiots,
- 24:45Speaker 2: you're doing great. Why are you so dumb that you
- 24:48Speaker 2: don't realize it?
- 24:49Speaker 3: And now here's all right? Now?
- 24:52Speaker 2: Remember so so far, there's two main themes that the
- 24:55Speaker 2: Post has laid out. Number one, genius Biden is playing
- 25:00Speaker 2: for the history books for the decades rather than the
- 25:02Speaker 2: short term political cycles, so don't blame him for the
- 25:06Speaker 2: disasters of his policies. But number two, that he wanted
- 25:09Speaker 2: to restore the norms of the presidency and the norms
- 25:13Speaker 2: of democracy.
- 25:15Speaker 3: So this next paragraph is going to blow your mind.
- 25:19Speaker 2: In private, Biden has also said he should have picked
- 25:23Speaker 2: someone other than Merrick Garland as Attorney General. Well, no,
- 25:29Speaker 2: kidding he was the most partisan and political attorney general
- 25:31Speaker 2: in history, and to disgrace the Department of Justice. But no, no, no, no, no,
- 25:35Speaker 2: that's not Biden's complaint. Biden quote complaining about the Justice
- 25:40Speaker 2: Department's slowness under Garland in prosecuting Trump and its aggressiveness
- 25:48Speaker 2: in prosecuting Biden's son Hunter, according to people familiar with
- 25:53Speaker 2: his comments, so understand this great titan restoring the norms
- 25:58Speaker 2: of the White House. His DOJ is the first Department
- 26:02Speaker 2: of Justice to indict and prosecute a former president and
- 26:06Speaker 2: a leading candidate for president who later got elected president
- 26:09Speaker 2: in the history of our country. It's never been done.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Under Biden, they did it twice. They absolutely weaponized the
- 26:16Speaker 2: DOJ to go after his opponents over and over and
- 26:19Speaker 2: over again. They weaponized the FBI. And his complaint is,
- 26:22Speaker 2: damn it, they didn't do enough. They should have been
- 26:24Speaker 2: more vigorous. They should have indicted him more. They should
- 26:27Speaker 2: have indicted him faster. We should have we should have
- 26:30Speaker 2: attacked him from day one. I mean it is. And
- 26:34Speaker 2: by the way, everything I'm saying, there's not a word
- 26:37Speaker 2: of that in this article that they don't acknowledge. No
- 26:40Speaker 2: other d DOJ has indicted a president. They just report
- 26:46Speaker 2: like a blinking doe eyed four year old. Well, his
- 26:51Speaker 2: complaint was Biden didn't move fast enough. On the other thing,
- 26:54Speaker 2: he was too aggressive in prosecuting Biden's son. Now, mind you,
- 26:59Speaker 2: the Biden doo jay went to a court and tried
- 27:03Speaker 2: to enter a sweetheart deal that Biden got a slap
- 27:05Speaker 2: on the wrist in no jail time, and it was
- 27:08Speaker 2: so egregious that the judge threw it out only after
- 27:11Speaker 2: public scrutiny, including this podcast, which shined a great deal
- 27:15Speaker 2: of light on it. But he still says that's too
- 27:18Speaker 2: much to hold Hunter accountable. And by the way, the
- 27:21Speaker 2: DOJ also bent over backwards to protect Joe Biden. It
- 27:27Speaker 2: that paragraph may be the most astonishing paragraph of this
- 27:31Speaker 2: entire article.
- 27:33Speaker 1: You look at this article and I think there's three
- 27:36Speaker 1: different points that I want to dive into with you. One,
- 27:40Speaker 1: what was the real purpose of writing it? I'm still trying.
- 27:43Speaker 1: I mean, I get the whole rewriting of history, but
- 27:45Speaker 1: it's so extreme that I don't even think that many
- 27:49Speaker 1: on the left could take this seriously or am I wrong?
- 27:51Speaker 1: So let's start with that.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Well, I think they have the audacity to believe that
- 27:59Speaker 2: they can, that they are, that the newspaper, the Washington Post,
- 28:03Speaker 2: is the first draft of history. And as said that
- 28:07Speaker 2: this is not journalism, that this is hagiography. The article continues,
- 28:12Speaker 2: We've only done about the first third of it. I'm
- 28:14Speaker 2: not going to continue reading the.
- 28:15Speaker 3: Rest of it.
- 28:16Speaker 2: It goes on to say how Biden modeled himself after
- 28:19Speaker 2: FDR and I am just going to skip skip to
- 28:22Speaker 2: the end because the end is every bit as absurd
- 28:25Speaker 2: as the earlier parts we read. So here's the end
- 28:27Speaker 2: of the article. To show that he respects the peaceful
- 28:31Speaker 2: transfer of power. Biden is welcoming Trump, who openly challenged
- 28:36Speaker 2: that transition. Biden has repeatedly directed his aides to do
- 28:40Speaker 2: all they can to help Trump assume the presidency after
- 28:44Speaker 2: years of calling Trump unfit for high office. Now, mind you,
- 28:50Speaker 2: every day in the White House, Biden is doing everything
- 28:53Speaker 2: he can to frustrate Trump coming in.
- 28:55Speaker 3: So what is he doing? Number one? He pardoned Hunter.
- 28:58Speaker 2: Biden, which we predicted on this Post podcast, because he
- 29:00Speaker 2: does not want any accountability for the rampant lawlessness of
- 29:04Speaker 2: his son and the corruption of selling access to himself
- 29:08Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Number two he pardoned every single federal death
- 29:14Speaker 2: row inmate except for the three most notorious. So of
- 29:18Speaker 2: the forty, he parted thirty seven of them. Again, we
- 29:20Speaker 2: predicted that it was absolutely brazen. Why because he knew
- 29:25Speaker 2: Trump was going to actually carry out the law, and
- 29:27Speaker 2: so he's trying.
- 29:28Speaker 3: To frustrate that.
- 29:28Speaker 2: Number three, he's selling off the border wall for five
- 29:32Speaker 2: dollars a parcel because he doesn't want Trump to build
- 29:35Speaker 2: the wall. Number four, he's grant considering granting wholesale pardons.
- 29:41Speaker 2: He is actively trying to do by the way. Number five,
- 29:44Speaker 2: Trump is that he wants federal workers to go back
- 29:46Speaker 2: to work. So Biden is signing contracts collective bargaining contracts
- 29:52Speaker 2: to make sure the federal workers can stay home because
- 29:54Speaker 2: he wants to tie up the next administration on litigation.
- 29:58Speaker 2: So but here, here's what the Post said. Biden has
- 30:02Speaker 2: repeatedly directed his aides to do all they can to
- 30:05Speaker 2: help Trump assume the presidency. Like what utter and complete garbage.
- 30:10Speaker 2: And let me say something, Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos should be ashamed of this garbage. If Jeff
- 30:18Speaker 2: Bezos cared at all about the integrity of the Washington Post.
- 30:24Speaker 2: This guy, Tyler Patron, I have no idea who this
- 30:26Speaker 2: numbskull is. He should be fired. He is not a
- 30:29Speaker 2: journalist anyone who writes this garbage that contains no facts,
- 30:34Speaker 2: It contains no counterbalancing, countervailing side. It is simply if
- 30:42Speaker 2: Madison Avenue were hired to come in and let's rewrite
- 30:47Speaker 2: the Biden presidency to be exactly what we wanted it,
- 30:50Speaker 2: they couldn't write it more ridiculous than this. And by
- 30:53Speaker 2: the way, the editor who signed off on this should
- 30:56Speaker 2: be fired as well. This is you want to know
- 30:59Speaker 2: why nobody trust the media, It's because they publish garbage
- 31:02Speaker 2: like this without even a tiny nod to facts or
- 31:13Speaker 2: the simple reality that we just saw a overwhelming election
- 31:18Speaker 2: where Trump won the popular vote of the seven battleground states,
- 31:21Speaker 2: who won all seven, Like someone at the Post should say, gosh,
- 31:27Speaker 2: maybe these incredibly popular policies that were so good for America,
- 31:33Speaker 2: Maybe people really didn't like it. Maybe waging a war
- 31:35Speaker 2: on oil and gas and driving up energy prices was
- 31:38Speaker 2: a really bad idea and hurt a lot of Americans.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Maybe undermining our allies, maybe giving Vladimir Putin a gift
- 31:47Speaker 2: of waiving sanctions on Nordstring two and causing the biggest
- 31:50Speaker 2: war in Europe since World War Two. Maybe that wasn't
- 31:52Speaker 2: a great idea. Maybe sending one hundred million dollars to
- 31:55Speaker 2: I Ran, who sends it to Hamas and Hansibala, who
- 31:57Speaker 2: uses it to fund a war on Israel, the worst
- 31:59Speaker 2: war on Middle East in fifty years. Maybe that wasn't
- 32:02Speaker 2: a good idea. Maybe turning a blind eye and refusing
- 32:05Speaker 2: to prosecute anti Semitic terrorists all across their protesters terrorists
- 32:09Speaker 2: is too strong. But antisemitic protesters who threatened violence, Maybe
- 32:14Speaker 2: that is a profoundly bad idea. Maybe watching the integrity
- 32:19Speaker 2: half of America believes the FBI and the Department of
- 32:22Speaker 2: Justice are completely unprincipled, because well they've been completely unprincipled.
- 32:28Speaker 2: None of that that there isn't even the tiniest acknowledgment
- 32:33Speaker 2: of facts. This is the Washington Post behaving in a
- 32:38Speaker 2: way that I think everyone connected with this article ought
- 32:42Speaker 2: to be thoroughly, thoroughly embarrassed. When your principle points are
- 32:48Speaker 2: we're aiming for fifty years, not four. So as bad
- 32:51Speaker 2: as our policies are in fifty years, will claim they
- 32:54Speaker 2: were great, and Merrick Garland's problem was he wasn't political
- 32:59Speaker 2: enough and he should have indicted Trump even more, and
- 33:02Speaker 2: he should have covered up Biden's wrongdoings even more. And
- 33:07Speaker 2: you don't acknowledge any like this is a load of
- 33:11Speaker 2: crap that ain't journalism.
- 33:15Speaker 1: Final question on this, because there's two articles now in
- 33:19Speaker 1: about what an eight day span. One of them was
- 33:23Speaker 1: an article that was written a couple of days ago
- 33:26Speaker 1: encouraging Congress to stop Donald Trump and we mentioned on
- 33:29Speaker 1: the show from becoming president, and then now you have
- 33:34Speaker 1: this one. Is there a chance that the media has
- 33:39Speaker 1: just gotten so radical and is so far gone now
- 33:42Speaker 1: that they're actually just going to lose their influence over
- 33:45Speaker 1: the American people because this is no longer even looking
- 33:49Speaker 1: like journalism, and this is just two examples of just
- 33:52Speaker 1: how insanely biased they are. Is that the blessing in
- 33:56Speaker 1: disguise here?
- 33:58Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 33:58Speaker 2: I think there's no doubt that the reputation of journalism
- 34:02Speaker 2: has gone down incredibly. You know, you see these these
- 34:05Speaker 2: corporate journalists screaming about, you know, the American people are
- 34:10Speaker 2: not journalists now. The fact Twitter or x has completely
- 34:13Speaker 2: transformed it, where when they lie the facts come out immediately,
- 34:17Speaker 2: and and and it drives these these liars crazy. Look,
- 34:21Speaker 2: we've talked before about how Trump broke the media. This
- 34:26Speaker 2: is this is an incredible example. And and by the way,
- 34:29Speaker 2: look today in most corporate media outlets, there's going to
- 34:34Speaker 2: be some ha giography of Jimmy Carter. You know what,
- 34:38Speaker 2: I'm okay with that he lived till one hundred. It's
- 34:41Speaker 2: the time of his pathing. I think you can be
- 34:44Speaker 2: respectful to people when they pass Now, mind you, the
- 34:47Speaker 2: media never is to Republicans, but set that aside. It's
- 34:53Speaker 2: one thing to do it when someone passes away. It's
- 34:57Speaker 2: another thing to do it when you they're just ignoring
- 35:03Speaker 2: reality that the American people rejected the obvious and incredible
- 35:08Speaker 2: failures of the Biden policies. And it's not even that
- 35:12Speaker 2: they don't include it. Much of what they say in
- 35:14Speaker 2: the article is exactly the opposite of reality. So when
- 35:19Speaker 2: you hold Joe Biden up as a paragon of returning
- 35:23Speaker 2: to norms, look look on our open borders. No president
- 35:28Speaker 2: in the history of this nation, none has had a
- 35:33Speaker 2: lawless policy of simply defying federal immigration law and releasing
- 35:37Speaker 2: the people they apprehend That was a massive issue in
- 35:41Speaker 2: this election. They don't acknowledge it at all. Instead, they
- 35:44Speaker 2: say he's a champion for democracy. This is at the
- 35:47Speaker 2: same time they're arguing to hell with democracy, block Trump
- 35:52Speaker 2: from becoming president. They went to court repeatedly, they tried
- 35:55Speaker 2: to throw them in jail. They you know, we saw
- 35:59Speaker 2: multiple Democrat officials across the country try to throw Trump
- 36:02Speaker 2: off the ballot. Thankfully, the Supreme Court unanimously reverse that
- 36:06Speaker 2: because you know, nothing says defending democracy like trying to
- 36:10Speaker 2: stop damn pesky voters voting for your opponents.
- 36:13Speaker 1: Yeah, it really You're right, It's incredible and I do
- 36:16Speaker 1: think Trump, as you said, breaking the media is going
- 36:19Speaker 1: to have an incredible impact on future elections. Not having
- 36:24Speaker 1: to basically go up against a machine that has been
- 36:27Speaker 1: as effective as the media has been. They have been
- 36:30Speaker 1: basically being able to give billions of dollars in kind
- 36:32Speaker 1: donations Democratic candidates, and they seem to be losing that influence.
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