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Marcellus Wiley, Charlie Ward, Angela Jollivette & Willard Jackson · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: their success. My first guest has been on this show before,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't even know when she was on the
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  Speaker 1: show the first time. We hit it off because she's
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  Speaker 1: a social media friend. I like her. She likes my page.
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  Speaker 1: I like her page. I leave little nice comments, and
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  Speaker 1: I've learned a lot of interesting things about her. She's
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  Speaker 1: a music content producer based in Los Angeles, California. Please
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversations Angela Am Joe Lovette Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, Hey, Hey that DJ moon Baby. It's me.
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  Speaker 1: It's to me. I'm back. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, you know, just you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you came on my show and we kind of learned
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  Speaker 1: each other and I was impressed with your with your
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  Speaker 1: your whole set up. And I want to just review
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things that we discussed because I think
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  Speaker 1: it's important. And that's because the brand that you're building
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  Speaker 1: and uh, the outlook, and you know, you're you're one
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  Speaker 1: of those people who you know, you know, like myself.
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  Speaker 1: You know you're going into the field it's not normal
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  Speaker 1: and then it's very competitive and there are no rules
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  Speaker 1: to how you achieve success. So what projects are you
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  Speaker 1: currently working on right now? Well, you know, God has
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  Speaker 1: always shifting me in a lot of different directions. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I might have an idea of where I think I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: but then He's always redirecting my steps. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to award a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: saw on social media, come on, come on out there
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  Speaker 1: looking good in front of the little the step and repeat,
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  Speaker 1: So that was important. I'm still floating I'm still flure.
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  Speaker 1: That was very full circle moment for me after overseeing
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  Speaker 1: the Gospel Awards for the Grammys for the last ten
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  Speaker 1: years and to win Best Gospel Album of the Year.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't even tell you what that means just
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  Speaker 1: for me personally. Okay, you kind of dropped a little bit. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you went from double a CP to overseeing the gospel
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  Speaker 1: department at the Grammys. So explain a little bit, because,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, you you know your life, but the
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  Speaker 1: average listener of you don't know. And that's why I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to show to say there are steps to success.
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  Speaker 1: To explain your participation in the Grammys, and then we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go all the way back to when you were
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  Speaker 1: just DJ moon Baby out there just spending the spending
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  Speaker 1: the turn table. Right, So let's talk about your Grammy experience.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I spent the last decade of
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  Speaker 1: my life and we talked about that a little bit
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  Speaker 1: last time at the Grammy Awards. So I oversaw the
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  Speaker 1: awards process, the entire thing for the gospel fields, so Christian, CCM,
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  Speaker 1: traditional gospel, hip hop, everything, and then I also oversaw
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  Speaker 1: television film, so all the awards that were given out
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  Speaker 1: in those categories. I was responsible, so all the committees,
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  Speaker 1: every entry that came across for consideration was on my desk,
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  Speaker 1: so pretty much with the Double A CP process. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was entered in Best Gospel Album for the soundtrack
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  Speaker 1: green Leaf that I produced for a second season of
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  Speaker 1: Oprah Show. So all the people that I was nominated against,
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  Speaker 1: Tasha Cobbs, you know, Marvin Sapp, Travis Green, cc wine
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  Speaker 1: and like the heavy hitters, like I had awarded them
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  Speaker 1: the last ten years. I had awarded all these people
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  Speaker 1: on the other end, So now I'm up again. It's
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  Speaker 1: all of them for consideration for this in the relation
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  Speaker 1: how do how do they vote? How does that voting happen?
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  Speaker 1: How did you know? Can you reveal that how they
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  Speaker 1: how they you nominated and then people vote on it? Correct? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was actually open to the public for the first
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  Speaker 1: time this year with a p n T. So this
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  Speaker 1: was a public decision, I believe. You know, there was
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  Speaker 1: obviously the private membership in Double A CP voters, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously the public votes. They loved green Leaf,
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  Speaker 1: and they loved the music, and you know, the show
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  Speaker 1: was nominated as a Drama of Best Supporting actress Lynn Whitfield.
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  Speaker 1: So the show itself was nominated, but the only thing
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  Speaker 1: that brought home that trophy was the music. So that
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  Speaker 1: was something very dear to me. Yeah, that the music
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  Speaker 1: stood out. And I mean, to win Best Gospel Album
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  Speaker 1: of the Year. It wasn't even best Soundtrack, you know,
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  Speaker 1: which is what it was, the found track one best
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  Speaker 1: Gospel Album. So literally, like to win that award means
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  Speaker 1: everything for me. That's full circle and it's divine and
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  Speaker 1: it's God to do. And then I just can't even
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  Speaker 1: say how he put a spotlight on me right now.
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  Speaker 1: So that with that spotlight shining and now you know,
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  Speaker 1: because you know you just you know, you just a
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  Speaker 1: music content producers supervisor on green Leaf. Now let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you this so so because I want to go
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  Speaker 1: back a little bit, because there are steps to getting
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  Speaker 1: to where you are at, because I started looking at
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  Speaker 1: the entire bio, because we didn't even talk about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you were a DJ, you did radio. How
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  Speaker 1: How does want Because I get these questions all the
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  Speaker 1: time for people who are producers, how do you start
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  Speaker 1: making these transitions? Or is it luck or being at
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  Speaker 1: the right place at the right time. How do you
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  Speaker 1: start making these transitions in life, and and obviously you're
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  Speaker 1: willing to keep going out on faith because of decisions
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  Speaker 1: you feel a better for your life by moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: How do you How did you transition from being a
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  Speaker 1: one of the popular DJs on the West Coast to
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  Speaker 1: doing what you're doing now? Well, let's never luck, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe in luck incidence. But you know, at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, for me, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was always a bigger plan than a bigger picture. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not someone so just see what's in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever that I end up, you know, getting into, I
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  Speaker 1: always see the big picture of where that can lead me.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, the DJ was the passion, it was
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  Speaker 1: the love. Music was just a part of me. Like
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  Speaker 1: growing up, I was the kid on the back of
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  Speaker 1: the school bus that everybody wanted to sit next to
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  Speaker 1: with the boom box like, so if I could think
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  Speaker 1: back as far as I could go, I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: first record I ever played was Stevie Wonder How that
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  Speaker 1: than July on a Fisher Price in preschool. So I
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  Speaker 1: was DJ Moonbay before I ever knew I was a djer,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So I was always on this path in music,
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  Speaker 1: but I always loved the business. And then we talked
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  Speaker 1: about that before, So you know, I looked up to
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  Speaker 1: Sylvia Rohne and Diddy and Cathy Hughes and all these moguls,
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  Speaker 1: and I've always seen myself in that place. I've always
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  Speaker 1: seen myself going in that direction. So, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: Grammys that was strategic for me. Like when I went there,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't, oh, I just want to work for the
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  Speaker 1: Grammys this cube. No. I understood the magnitude of what
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  Speaker 1: that organization and ment to the music business and the
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  Speaker 1: platform that it would give me if I engaged and
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  Speaker 1: became a part of that organization on the inside and
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  Speaker 1: as a member, you know, originally from the outside. So
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  Speaker 1: everything I do is strategic, but it also is God
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  Speaker 1: guiding my steps, and it is divine timing. I believe
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  Speaker 1: in timing. Timing is everything, you know, just because I
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  Speaker 1: foresee myself somewhere at a certain point by the time
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  Speaker 1: I'm twenty five or thirty, that does not always unfold
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  Speaker 1: exactly the way I see it, but I continue to
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  Speaker 1: walk into my steps towards where I want to see myself.
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  Speaker 1: So it's very important one to envision where you see yourself,
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  Speaker 1: and two to be able to execute and continue to
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  Speaker 1: walk closer to what that is and it looks like
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  Speaker 1: for you. And that's why I'm right now. I'm still
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  Speaker 1: on this journey. Like you know, Greenleaf was amazing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a great accomplishment, but there's so much
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  Speaker 1: more for me to do. You know. God has now
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  Speaker 1: redirected my steps again. And now I'm producing a show,
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  Speaker 1: co producing a show with TMZ and BT. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even see that coming. And that literally came
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  Speaker 1: the weekend that I was going to attend the Double
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  Speaker 1: A CP Awards. In the following week, I win the award.
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  Speaker 1: Now the next week I'm starting at TMZ. So you
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  Speaker 1: know you and in a million years, I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: ever thought after watching that show almost every night like
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  Speaker 1: everybody else, but I would be sitting there with Harvey Levin,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So what is your What is the show?
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  Speaker 1: What is the show? So it's called rack Rant, So
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  Speaker 1: Rackel Harper who you see on the show, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the outspoken young lady on there. She's basically getting a
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  Speaker 1: spin off show which will be a late night show
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  Speaker 1: different produced format than TMZ itself, but it's her being herself,
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  Speaker 1: you know, talking to a list celebrities on location. And
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  Speaker 1: pilot episode is Amber Rose Problem and you know, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the aative stuff. Cool. Okay, we're about to
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  Speaker 1: go to the break, but well, I want to just
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  Speaker 1: let you know that, uh, I want to continue this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I know we've talked about some things in the past,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I'm in Atlanta now, I'm a whole
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  Speaker 1: many people have really been trying to give me to
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  Speaker 1: do a gospel record for so many years, and I
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  Speaker 1: my good friend. I'm gonna calling my good friend because
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  Speaker 1: I follow on social media. You know, I always always engaged.
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  Speaker 1: I always give her hype, I give her love. I
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  Speaker 1: try to give a motivation because she's a rising star,
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  Speaker 1: Angela m jolivat DJ moon Baby, I like to call it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm teasing when I when when I when
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  Speaker 1: I first interviewed you, and you start talking about the Grammys,
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  Speaker 1: and if you get locked into that little world, it
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  Speaker 1: almost comes across like your conservative, you know, like you
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  Speaker 1: just a you know, a conservative. They know I saw this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, corporate. There you go, corporate. That's the proper world. Corporate.
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  Speaker 1: And so when I started following you and I start
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  Speaker 1: you said, I saw be interviewing uh Snoop Dog and
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  Speaker 1: all these different people, and you're doing you you really engage.
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  Speaker 1: Am I right or wrong that you engage a lot
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  Speaker 1: more in social media? And why is that? Why is that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm for the underdog. That's like
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  Speaker 1: my whole emo with doing business period, Like I love
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  Speaker 1: giving platforms to artists and like yourself, you know, rising
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  Speaker 1: thoughts entrepreneurs. So my eye is always on the post
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  Speaker 1: of what's going on, Like I'm constantly looking for talent
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  Speaker 1: online you know, it's really important to me explaining at
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying. You said you're constantly looking for talent online,
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  Speaker 1: because that's a that's an end way. Are you are?
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  Speaker 1: You could somebody go to your website or your your
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  Speaker 1: your social media page? How is that? Of course you
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  Speaker 1: could go to moon Baby media dot com and always
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  Speaker 1: reach out to me or on social I'm at DJ
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  Speaker 1: moon Baby everywhere, and of course Angela Jollivet you can
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  Speaker 1: google me. But you know, for me, like I've had
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  Speaker 1: you know, my stock obviously in the indie space, I
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  Speaker 1: knew what it was like on my road to success
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  Speaker 1: to be in that position. Want in some visibility, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so I never forget that. I've always promised myself like
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  Speaker 1: no matter how far I go, I always want to
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  Speaker 1: still remain humble and know what it was like to
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  Speaker 1: be at this star point. So I know what it's like,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to continue to help other people that
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  Speaker 1: I see the light in to rise if I can.
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  Speaker 1: If there's anything that I could do to push somebody forward,
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  Speaker 1: that's my whole em o. You know that's what I'm about.
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  Speaker 1: I want us to go together, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting because you used the word corporate
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  Speaker 1: because I kind of feel the more and more I
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  Speaker 1: talked to you that you had a plan or your
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  Speaker 1: planner or your person that goes about saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, like you told me, early is not luck.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know, you you position your self and
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  Speaker 1: I've set goals and this is where i want to be.
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  Speaker 1: And I hear that tone and I just see this.
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  Speaker 1: I just see this young lady out there djen but
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  Speaker 1: DJN on a mission with a plan that you this
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  Speaker 1: is just a stepping to stone your dj and to
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  Speaker 1: get to it. I mean, you know, for me, the
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  Speaker 1: thing is or sign like I couldn't plan my life
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  Speaker 1: if I wanted to. You know, I'd be very honest
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  Speaker 1: with you because when I try to do it my way,
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  Speaker 1: he says, do it another way. You know. But it's
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: about having a vision, you know, having a vision period
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: and walking towards it. He will guide you where it
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: is you need to go. You know, the plans that
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I saw right now where I am right now, I
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: didn't imagine it where I am right now completely. You know,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be somewhere else. But you
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: have to stay open. That's what I feel like. The
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: main thing is never be closed minded or think something
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: has to happen this exact way, because it's not always
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: going to be that way. So you have to be
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: you know, agile, and be able to move and be
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: fluid because he's gonna take you exactly where you want
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: to go if you have that passion in your heart
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and desire to do something and you walk towards it.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I believe in doing that. That is how I live
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: my life now. I want to talk about people who
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: are afraid to change, or people who are afraid to
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: take that next step. Because you were you know, Grammys
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Recording Academy, it's it's the best of the best, you
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: at the top of your field. You over television. This
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: comfy's comfy, you know. But but but you know comfortable
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and can get comfortable, right but you but you said that.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I guess what did you? What? What what was running
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: through your mind while you was comfy, while you was comfortable?
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Why you would I gotta get out of here. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: think I gotta go, Like I can't spend my whole
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: life here, Like there's too much more for me to do.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Like I know I'm gifted, you know, in a humble way.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I know he has put something inside of me to
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: do something more, you know. And what about now you
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: know the name says popping up on your shoulder. You know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I know what I mean? You know they uh, I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: know because you know, I was at IBM. I just
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: worked at IBM, and I was a corporate exact you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and uh had my degree in mathematics, and I wanted
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to be a comedian. And so when I told people
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: that I wanted to be a comedian, you know, they
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: looked at me. First of all, they couldn't even under it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: They couldn't even fathom how I was gonna get paid
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: because their level of comedians were like Richard pryor Eddie Murphy,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you know, and they were looking at me, going, you
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: are nowhere near them, fellow. Okay, so I don't even
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: understand how you're gonna get money when they're getting all
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the roles. And so so when I when I say that,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I kind of got a little history about, you know,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: because you you were you know, if you talk about
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: music the Grammys, is that is top doll. You said,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: everybody in the country knows exactly what you what you
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: work when you say Grammars, and you know it's a
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: major show on television. You know, when people get a Grammy,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: they put it on social media, put it on magazines.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Everybody hold their Grammys and all that because it's like
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: top honor. It's the top honor. It's so here you are.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You know, you know you're running things. Now, let's go
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and put this put it right. You run into television
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and film division, and you're running all the gospels. So
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: all the gospel stars know who you are. They know
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: who you are, and all the producers know who you are.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: The labels know who you are. So you've got a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: lot of juice at this point. You know you are
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: willed in a position of power and authority. So how
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: does in your minds that shine, I got more to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: offer than I got more blessinges I need to reach?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: How does how do? How did? How did you block
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: out that fear factor that the direction that you may
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: go may not be good for you? Well, you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I want to grant me too. You know I'm not
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, giving them out here. So in
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: order to do that, you cannot work there. And that
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: is what God did for me. He told me it
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: was time to go, and it was literally a conflict
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: of interest for me to stay there because I was
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: now in line for a nomination for the green Leaf
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Soundtrack in the category I used to oversee a double
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: conflict because it was gospel and television film, so obviously
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I have a soundtrack and I have a gospel album.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: So it was very clear at that point that this
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: was his divine appointment to leave there. And you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't have to make the decision. He made it
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: for me. And I tell you, that's the best feeling
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: in the world, because I didn't have this limbo in
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: my heart of should I give all this up? And
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it's funny you say that, because my boss came in
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: my office before I left the Grammys a couple of
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: weeks before and sat there, and it keeps replaying in
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: my head after I won the Double A CP Award
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: six months after I left, and he said to me,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: are you sure you want to give up all this?
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And I hear that after I won that award, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, give up everything, and I wouldn't standing here
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: holding this now, and I wouldn't be where I am now,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: receiving the accolades because when you're in that corporate environment,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: you obviously don't have the same platform. Is when you
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: leave somewhere and do something on your own, you know
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you're not able to, you know, have that sort of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: interface because you're under their brand. You know, you're under
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: their CEO in there, the public figure. You know, you're
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: not getting that same visibility. Even though I had all
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: this power and I'm this person overseeing the gatekeeper of
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: this category in this world, you know, you're still not
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: getting that same visibility publicly as you would on your own.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: So all I can tell you is it is the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: best thing that's happened to me. I'm very happy with
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the decision I made. Six months later, here I am
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and I know is off to a phenomenal start. I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: can't even imagine, you know happy, You're you're very happy.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: But could you just give somebody some advice? Somebody who's
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: sitting on the edge contemplating. You know, people tell them, no, no,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you're stupid, No, no, they don't make any sense. What
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: advice would you give somebody who's hearing the negative, who's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: fear and change? Who really this is what they want
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to do, but don't really see the end results That's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: what it really stops you because you know, when you
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: go out there on your own, there's no guarantee that
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get a check every day, or the health
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: insurance payment is going to be every every every month.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So what advice you would you give somebody just to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: just go forward? What advice I mean I tell anyone?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously, be very strategic if you make a
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: move like this. You know, people say, you know, you
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: have to take a risk and walk out on faith,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: but God didn't tell you to be silly. You know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you still have to pay your bills, if you have kids,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: you have a mortgage, you have so you have to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: be strategic when you make this move, you know, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you have to plan for it. You know. In my case,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: like I said, it was very clear that he had
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: created this room and opportunity after a decade of my life,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Like I thought I was going to leave there sooner.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna get in there four years,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: five years, and I was gonna be on my way
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: to the next you know, But it took me a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: decade of my life. So everything is about timing, and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you just have to be prepared. Like I would never
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: advise anybody like, oh, just quit your job and go
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: try to do whatever necessarily without a plan in place.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So it's about planning, vision, faith, and execution. So if
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you are on the verge right now and you're over
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: where you are and you feel like you can't take
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it anymore and it's time to walk out and say peace, like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: just make sure you have a plan in place, some
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: sort of plans, and he will take care of you
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the rest of the way. My friend, you're telling the truth.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy I got you back on the show.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm so blessed that you're in a situation my relationship
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: with you to hear that you have great things happening
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: for you in the future on BT with TMZ and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: uh always let me know. I'm a fan. I want
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: to keep motivating. I want to keep motivating you to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: success because you deserve it. You have a life that
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I've lived for myself because I had to make that
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: tough decision. I have and I have not looked back.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Have that been about the rose yest Heather? I thought
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I couldn't make it to the next day. Yes, but
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: guess what, DJ Moon Baby, I'm a fan, Thank you.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you so much for keeping your word.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: You said you're gonna have me back, so I appreciate you.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And a lot has happened since we last talked, So
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: bye bye. Let me tell you about the host of
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations, Rashaan McDonald. He's a social media influencer.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Of his seven hundred thousand plus social media followers are female.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: He's a two time Emmy Award winner, three time n
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: double a c P Image Award winner, sitcom writer, stand
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: up comic, former IBM executive, and has a degree in mathematics.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: More importantly, Rashan McDonald will use his business and celebrity
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: relationships to empower small businesses with information to succeed. Roshan
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: mcgond I'm back. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. Money Making
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Conversations to a show where I interview industry decision makers, CEO,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: small business owners and celebrities and you learned the secrets
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: of their success. My next guest, it's my man. I'm
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: gonna give it. I'm gonna give by one title, but
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: he's a true entrepreneur and we're gonna talk about a
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: lot of things that he's doing out there. High impacts
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: people's lives and giving opportunities. How his business is really,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I think it creates social change. My next guest is
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the vice chairman of e Many magazine. Please welcome to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations, Willard Jackson. Really, I'm doing fantastic. Really,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you know you're you know the funny thing
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: about me and you you know, we were text each
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: other and we should already posted that. I posted that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: for you, will I thank you, thank you for looking
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: out for me, brother, because that's the relationship we have.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Because the fact that you know, we're like you know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: when when saw each other in problem about eight months.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: But but but the beauty of our relationship is that
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: we keep supporting each other and keep being there for
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: each other if we need something from us from a
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: motivational standpoint or from a social media post, because we
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: know that that's how this business works, in this relationships. Absolutely,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And you know, Rushan, you and I man, we have
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: been tendered spare as brothers in the in the cause
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: from the first moment we met. And uh, you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I love you like a brother and we're here to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: support each other. Man, And uh, I'm really really happy
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to be on your show this morning. I want to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the show basically money Making Conversation.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Is it really an interesting show because of the fact
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that I really, I really want to talk about allow
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: a person like you, a successful business man, to explain
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to everyday people are entrepreneurs. So I maybe at your level,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: so I might just be small upstart businesses. How what
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: what does it mean to be an entrepreneur? You know,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: rush It means, um, you know, one taking really taking
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: responsibility and putting yourself in a situation where for me,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: where I didn't have a glass ceiling over my head, okay,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: And so for me, being an entrepreneur meant freedom, um,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you know, freedom to be the person I wanted to be,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Freedom to go out and earn a living, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: for myself, and being in a position to control my
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: own destiny. And so for a lot of people, you know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: entrepreneur isn't mean different things. But for me, that's what
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: it meant, man, is being able to control my own
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: destiny without a glass ceiling over my head. Now, but
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that's now, that's now Will you talk like that? Are
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: you talking very confidently? Now? Now? When you dropped out,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: there a lot of uncertainty was it was was was
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: out there? Do you are you still uncertain like that
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: you still have levels of doubts? Or what keeps you motivated?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Because I remember one day we were sitting down there.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I just love buying businesses. I just love buying stuff.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I love invested, And it was like a genuine thrill
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: in your voice, you know, and he was like, this
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: excites me. That that that that that it's like like
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a new brand of exploration for you from an entrepreneurship standpoint.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Because the fact that you're not satisfied and you're willing
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to diversify your portfolio, which is even more crazy, and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the sence that most people just you know, they stay
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: in their lane. You know, I'm talking about stay in
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: their lane. They go, I know this that I'm happy
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: with this, I'm making a lot of money doing this.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: But you, my friend, diversified. Why is that or that
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: just keeps you motivated? Well, it's it's it's it's a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of things. One crution. I first of all,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I started my first business my senior year
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: in college, and and it goes all the way back to,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: you know, the lessons that my grandfather taught me, man,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: when I was a young kid, he said, son, go
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to college, get a business degree to putting use for yourself.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: And and my grandfather was an entrepreneur his entire life,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and so I grew up looking at and seeing that,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you know. So when I went to college, man, it
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: was the only option I had was to start my
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: own business. So at that point, rush, And I'm gonna
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: tell you, the biggest hurdle I had to overcome was
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the fear of jumping out there and trying to do it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And and so it took me a while to really
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: overcome my fears. And once I put together the plan
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of action, I targeted the business opportunity that I wanted
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to come after, and I overcame those those fears. Man,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I just jumped out there and and from there's been
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a faith walk. And uh now they were in fear.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Now that pops up a lot, and and and I
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: use it in my tone too. And I when I'm
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: talking about people are because I've telling them that fear
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and fear is a good thing too, because fear means
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you're about to do something different, You're about to challenge
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: your life. So don't look at fears a negative word,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: because fear slides you into another category because a lot
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: of people are going to work every day because of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: the fact that they are unhappy and they fear change,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: they fear they unknown, and you're that's that's what you're saying,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you said, Rashan, They're no guarantees. And that's what Ted
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: has a general tendency to stop you, is that, Wow,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay at this job because guess what if
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I leave? What if that job closed? You know, people
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: just start putting up roadblocks, They just put blocks of
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: their success. So so how did you, young guy, because
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: people are listening as an entrepreneur, how did you overcome
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: those fears, all those uh which are usually tied to change.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: How did you overcome those? Well, like I said, I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: really man, I started really reading a lot of motivational
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: type when I was in college, and I started buying
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: into the notion that you know, you have to walk
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: by faith and once you have a plan of action,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I developed a conviction that, hey, failing is
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: not an option. This was gonna be the path that
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I was gonna take in my life, and whatever the consequences,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: whatever the successes, whatever the failure, whatever. I was willing
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to accept that. And so as a result, you know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I jumped out there and well it was interesting. And
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: going back to your earlier questions, and once I jumped
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: into business, you know, I ended up having some really
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: good mentors, man that really helped me along the way
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: to overcome different issues in business. And I give example,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I my college roommate, his dad owned hospitals, and so
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: coming out, you know, I grew up in Denton, Texas,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: you know, a small town, I've never really been exposed to,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you know, these level of business people when I got
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to Houston, and so I didn't even know you could
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: own a hospital. And not only did I not know
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you could own the hospital. I thought you had to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: be a doctor to be to own a hospital. So
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: but my roommate's dad, he said, listen, will hear you
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: don't have to be a doctor to own the hospital.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: You know. He was a businessman, and so he hired
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: doctors and they took care of that point. He was
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the business guy to make sure they had the resources
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to do what they do back h Rush and that
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: freed me up, my man, and to the point where
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I started casting a water net looking at opportunities, you know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: on a broader basis, And so that allowed me to
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: go into all kinds of different opportunities. Yes, once you
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: realize that you don't have to be an expert, hire
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the expert. Yes, Sir, hired the experts. So as a result,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: as a business guy, you know, I've on trucking companies,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I've on staffing companies. Okay, let's stop at that staffing
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: company because I want to talk about that, because because that,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to me, is a game changer, and so many people are,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: especially people were coming out of college. I remember when
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I came out of college, you know, I would I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: work for temporary employment agencies, which is which is your
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: staffing type companies? Correct? Yes? And and my my my
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: younger brother called me. His sou graduated from college in
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: d C. He said, Rashan, he's having trouble trying to
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: get a job. I said, look, he needs to go
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to a staffing company. I said, this gives him an
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: entry way into a job. And basically, if they like
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you more, sometimes they'll hire you full time. Because I said,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are missing the boat. I'm talking
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: to young people and even adults who are out there
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: trying to look at these full time jobs are missing
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the boat on the advantages that these staffing companies can
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  Speaker 1: offer to them. Can you expand on that through you
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: exactly right? And and what people don't realize and what
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I try to promote out there is so we're staffing,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and so we do we do contract staffing in the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: area of light industrial, we do um I T professionals,
• 34:51
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• 34:56
  Speaker 1: what we what you find rushan, especially with the watching
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: one thousand companies to big companies, the best entryway to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: get into those companies is through a staff because what
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: they'll do, they'll contract a person from a company like us.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: They would then have the opportunity to check them out
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: for six months or however long on an assignment, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the ones that are really excelling, the ones that they
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: really like, they'll then hire them full time. And so
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: they get that chance to really you know, vet people
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: out before they bring them on and put them on
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: their payroll, give them all those benefits and all those
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: kind of things. So the number one gateway into corporate America,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I would suggest to you is through working with a
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: staffing company. Thank you, because they control those initial opportunities
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with most of these major companies. And I tell people
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: all the time because because verse of all, when you
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  Speaker 1: go through a staffing company, I'm talking abo a major corporation,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you don't worry about unemployment issues. They don't have to
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: worry about health benefit issues. All that is very and
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: it's been going on for years, you know, years, and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of people missed the boat because of the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: fact that I and I applaud you not only for
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the having this type of company, because you affect people's
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: lives in a positive manner. Because if people understand the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: system that you created through your staffing companies, that look,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: if you have a trouble trying to get a job,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: come to me, I could probably that same company. Did
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you probably having difficult to get an application? I could
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: probably get you own in a temporary higher situation. You
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: go over there, blow the doors off of them naty
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: days and however that little cycle period is they could
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: offer you. It could transition you into the company right
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: into the Hey, that's that's really the avenue to get
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: in there. And if you look at most corporate America,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: they have what's called a contingency workforce. That's that's us,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that's the contract employees that they have. Okay, more and more,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: more and more corporations are expanding to if they look
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: at their workforce. You can look at anyone of these
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: companies workforce, they'll have thirty to forty of the entire
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: workforce as contingent labor, which are staffing, you know, coming
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: from these are employees that are actually on staffing companies
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: payroll providing all of this different you know, these different
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: uh filling these different positions. And I love it, I
• 37:42
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• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that that opportunity is available. We're gonna be right back,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and we didn't even mentioned Ebony Jet yet. And that's
• 37:50
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• 37:52
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  Speaker 1: the phone right now, device chair, Ebony magazine, The diverse,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the versatile. I'm gonna do it if you give me
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a shot. Willard Jackson. I love it, man, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: You know I love I love communicating with you and
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  Speaker 1: I and the show is based on being able to
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: hear the insides, the values what pushes individuals like you.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Because of the fact there's not enough shows out there
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: like this, and I think I'm a rather unique form
• 40:27
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• 40:29
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• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Would you do my show? Shawn? Stop? Stop? Yeah, man,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on stop? What you want
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: me to do? The show? And did all the stuff himself,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: you know he didn't send it to his assistant. He
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: did it all himself. So let's talk about that crowning
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: jewel that's sitting out there called Ebony and Jet Magazine.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: And before we talk about that, I want to let
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you know I voted in the HPCU College Queens, which
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: is which is the which is another iconic brand. Let's
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: talk about the HBCU College Queens which if any African American,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: any person who's any last forty years, you open that
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: magazine enough to see who want and how has the
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: social media or the email system of the digital world
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: changed it and what is the future of that of
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that platform with under your vision? Well as you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, Ebony has always had some basic iconic opponents
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: to the magazine that everybody knows about. I mean, you
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: talk about Jet magazine. Everybody talked about the beauty of
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the way, you know, you talked about Ebony every year
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Ebony has always highlighted the queens on these historically black colleges. Okay,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: that is part of the you know, the fabric of evity,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: and so what we're doing now is just taking that
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: and expanded it in a in a much bigger way.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: We're doing that now through social media, through digital We
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: now have corporate partners who are co sponsoring those young ladies.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And so what is going on now is that once
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: it's narrowed down through the voting, national voting, where we're
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: getting close to three million people voting, the top ten
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: young ladies are then taken to Disney and so in
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Orlando or Los Angeles. Yeah, in Orlando, and man, they
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: are they It's laid out for them. They get to
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: spend three days doing photo shoots and video shoots and
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: they get to explore the Disneyland. We then bringing young
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: ladies whose queens get the mentor and their mothers are there,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and so it's it's become a really expanded, robust program
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: that's more than just having these young ladies pictures in
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the in the magazine. Okay, let me get this, let
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: me get this, because I didn't know all this, you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I just voted you know what I'm saying. I just voted.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: You know, you can vote as many times you want.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful set up, you know. And so you're
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: telling me now you have corporate sponsors tied to it,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: and and also it is narrowed down the ten ladies
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: with the most votes, and then they're brought to Orlando, Florida.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: And the Orlando Florida is kind of like a camp
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: where they're mentored future young executives of America, you kind
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: of like creating here and creating business relationships and just
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: social relationships. And they and their moms are there. So
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: it's really really a unique situation. It is a unique situation.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: It's a great um exposure for these young ladies. Man,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: they love it um and um, and it's a lot
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: of fun. Well that's key. That's key. That's key. That's key.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I love it because of the fact that you know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: in its own sudden way, essence is always a champion
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: UH African American female beauty of all colors, you know
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And sometimes we we we missed. We
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: gotta give you credit there, We gotta give any credit
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: for that, you know what I'm saying, Because You've been
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the true champion, you know, and I'm talking about at
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: HBCU schools where sometimes they get you know, once once
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: so called discrimination and then in segregation, and then you know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: we start going to all these different colleges. You know,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: HBCUs kind of got left on the back burner, but
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: you guys never left. You've always supported that brand. I
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: always supported that level of understanding. And now you're telling
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: me you've taken it to another level. We've taken it
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to another level as well. As you know, our Ebony's
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: dedication to HBCUs really really deep and it's fact um
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: and it's been that way as long as you know,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: even beyond before they started highlighting the HBCU queen and
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: so Ebony. You know, we have a senior level person
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: on Ebony staff that does nothing but interact with every
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: HBCU in the country congratulations, and so she creates you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: we have ambassadorships and we have all kinds of different
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: activations that we do in reference to supporting our HBCUs.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: So that's the staple of evity that will always continue
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and growth. Okay, now let's slide over too, because you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: can now you can now Ebony Steer comes in print form, correct, Yes, okay, cool, Okay,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: let's slide over to Jet Magazine. What is the future
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: of Jet magazine? What was happening with that magazine that
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: that digital publication. Yeah, so what we're doing with Jet
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: is we've we've we've repurposed Jet where it's gonna be
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: a problem primarily a digital platform, but we will still
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: do some print and the print that will do will
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: be in the form of special editions maybe once a
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: quarter new stand or a new stand only. But the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: repurpose in the Jet is to focus on the millennial audience. Yes,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna give shine to these young folks, these
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: young African American influencers who are normally not you know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: there's not really platforms out there to really show them
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: in a different light, in a very positive light. And
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: uh and so we'll be doing activations around the country
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: for these young folks, will be highlighting them on the digital,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: will be putting in a lot of these uh influencers
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: and and really spot lighting them so everybody know who
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: they are. It's interesting, you know, well, I gotta just
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: share this with your press release is going to go
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: out tomorrow. Um where where that eighteen and thirty or
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: four generations really is the entrepreneurship generation, and I am
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I am becoming the Uncle Roushan to that generation. And
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: my show Money Beating Conversation is going to be syndicated
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: to HBCU schools. So I'm just letting you know, we're
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: we're we're we know this is this is this relationship.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: So know that press release coming out tomorrow, you read it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Everybody around the country gonna read this, and so i'mouldna
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: let you know that you're hitting a couple of areas
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: that's coming just right in my path. That's right in
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: my direction because I know that who I am and
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: what I represent, that millennial direction, millionaire generation need that
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: direction of entrepreneurship. Who can they focus on because my
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. I am the truth and because
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: of that, because of that, and we hear what you're
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: saying in the direction you're going know that my my
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: my doors are opened, My friend, my doors are opened.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going right in the heart of HBCU schools. I'm
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: gonna be that voice. They're coming to me. They want
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: to hear the truth, they want to understand that there
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: they need directions and guess what I'm comfortable with delivering
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: that message and what you're saying about your whole focusing
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: that Ebony has always had at the core has been
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: HBCU schools. Hey, man, let's let's let's start shaking the
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: hands and start doing some big things together. Brother, absolutely,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and you know we over here to Ebony love you, shot.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're part of our family over
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: here and always till Michael h okay, exactly now just
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: now just let Michael my board, Austin and Keith in us. Yeah,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: because people that don't know, man, I have my business
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: partners are Michael Gibson and Linda Johnson, Rice Sir. And
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: then our fourth person on our board is Chief Smith.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: And man, what a group. We worked great together. You know,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: we have a lot of visions for this brand. Linda
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Johnson right is still our CEO, you know. So yeah,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: it's fantastic, man, It's a lot of fun. You know,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: it's really cool with hearing. Uh. You know, like I
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: said when I when I brought you on the show,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to just talk about that significant brand,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: that very significant brand in your life. I just want
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: the people here a little bit of your story, and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: believe me, y'all, it's a lot more to tell because
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I haven't even got into the CVG Investment Group, which
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: you kind of like talked about, which which gets all
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: these the Starlight Transportation Company in Washington, all these things,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: and how big these staffing is around the country because
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: of the fact that you're changing lives, man, and congratulations
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: and don't you stop, will it? And I know I'm
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: just telling you that for hype reason because I know
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna stop. But don't you stop, my friend, man,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Bruce Sean, I take that to heart. Man. It means
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: a lot for you to say that, and I can
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you we're not stopping over here. Bro. Well
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: you stay strong, man. Tell Linda I say Hi. Tell
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Michael Gibson, I say hi. Till my boy Keith I
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: said hi. Because guys, you guys are winners. And stay blessed.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: If you ever need me, man, I'm there for you.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: On SOCIOO definitely on this radio show. We'll be right
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: back with more from Rashan McDonald and Money Making Conversations.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Don't touch that doctor. Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's
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• 50:29
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  Speaker 1: next guest is Compton, California raised, Ivy League educated, former
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: NFL All Pro and you can see him on TV
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• 51:11
  Speaker 1: One of my favorites, mar Sellers Wiley Wiley, Man, I've
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: been following your career, not only as a because you
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: know your story. I'm a sports guy. I'm not I'm
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: not one of these guys who are who who's I'm
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: passioned by teams say I stopped doing that team at
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: teams so long time ago because I got tired of
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: being mad on Sundays. You know, when your team you know,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, Okay, where I'm from from Houston, Texas.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: So it's a lot of sadness when it comes to
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: football in Houston, Okay. You know that infin this come
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: back by Buffalo Bills when Warren Moon was quarterback in
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: that big lead and brother, I used to look at
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: my TV set, man, and I have a hole in
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: my chest emotionally, and I thought myself, I said, I
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: don't play football. I don't own no teams. I don't
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: even buy a ticket to the game. You need to
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: stop all this madness. Stop all this kid. Imagine how
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: we fail when we were on the field and we
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: had to feel those over here you go. But when
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I when I look at your career, man, because it's
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: always stood out, was that you know, was when you
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: when you went when you made the decision to go
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: to Columbia, Okay, you went from you went from the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: West coast to the East coast, Okay. And then but
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: they made a big deal about it, and I want
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: to know it is a big deal. But but but
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: because you know, it's like, you know, like Compton is
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: such a bad place that people are not supposed to
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: come out of because I'm f Fifth War of Texas,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: which is similar to Compton. And now does that Does
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: that annoy you a little bit when people seem like this,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: like you, you would like somebody extra special that you
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: are unusual to pop out of Compton and be able
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: to go to Columbia. Well, it does in the sense
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: that they don't understand and respect the greatness within Compton,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Fifth War, Texas, or any circumstance that faces adversity. So
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: it's just irving when people want to make a blanket
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: statement like you really are one in a million when
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: you're not. Um There are a lot of kids there
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: that were successful in their own rights, maybe not in
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: NFL ways or media ways, but I know VPS, I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: know CEO from confidence, I know kids that took the
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: right course when it came to their education and their careers. However,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of kids that are forking a
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: roll kids And I called myself a fork kids and
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I came. I came to the intersection, and it was
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a responsibility more so than I was ordained or I
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: was God said. It was just a responsibility to my
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: family and deeper to my community that I had to
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: be an example. So yeah, at times my inner desires
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: were to just go to the football factory school, be
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a typical football player and live out that story that
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: we've heard a thousand times. But I thought it would
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: be unique to do what I did, which is prioritized academic,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: still play ball, and still have an opportunity to world. Brother,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: it was an awesome because I feel that when you're
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: absolutely right, you know, coming from a fifth ward and
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: which is very similar to Compton, California, you know, you
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: do have those forking roads. It's their friends of mine
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: who took the wrong fork and uh and guess what
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: they steal in the hood. And I saw something the
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: other day, Man, I was like, wow, Okay, we're the
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: same age. You got to be kidding me, you know,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: because because that lifestyle will beat you up, it will
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: take its toll on you because there are no options,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: There are no uplifting sides of it. And when I
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: look at your story and I read about your story,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: you are a story because similar to yours, I came
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: out of. My degree is in mathematics. I went to
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: work five BM. Those those will always there on my resume,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: just like Columbia will always stay in your resume. And
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: when you walk in the room, that's your that's your
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: badge right there, brother, and that's your badgery. Even tell
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: anybody African America, anybody who wants to hear your story
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: that you can do. Don't let nobody stop you. Don't
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: let nobody stop you preach man. And you know what,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: growing up, I saw the gangs, I saw the drugs,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: the poverty. But the most disturbing thing wasn't those things.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: It was the low ambition. It was the people that
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: were They were setting their goals too low. They had jobs,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: not careers. And when I got into the mindset that
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I wanted to design my life, that came with a responsibility,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and that came with a discipline that I had to
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: listen to or else I knew I wouldn't be on track.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: So you get to the NFL, you get to the FPN,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: and everyone thinks, oh, wow, man, you're just a special individual.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Hey look, I'm gonna be humble about it and say,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: underd I worked for it. But let's be real. I
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: recognized that greatness in so many people, but you have
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to stay disciplined. You have to know yourself and identity,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: and you have to take time to design your plan.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: When you talk about peer pressure, when you talk about
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: your circumstances dictate who you are. That's the person who
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: is not taking the proper time to design their life.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: So they're getting caught up in the meth when I
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: when I say that, having because you know we're gonna
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: be friends, I'm gonna just tell you right now, tell
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: us because we are always been the first time we talked,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: because your life is so selling. I'm older than you,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: but your life is so similar to my eyes. And
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I definitely always your people, you know, people that are
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: younger like you. You gotta walk where I walk, okay,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: And you might want to listen to me because some
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: of these places I stepped, you really don't want to step.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: And I denied myself, you know, I didn't. I don't
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: And I just say this to anybody. I don't nothing
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: because it's wrong. I don't drink. I want smoke. And
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: because because I had to, I felt I had to
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: set an example for my friends, you know, because they
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: were super parties, you know, and they did some other things.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna stay on the radio, I would go
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: giving me, are you kidding me? Okay? And now they're
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: you know, they're on state farms, they're on the they're
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: they're all stay there executives. And I always believe because
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I held the course of who I was and and
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: didn't party crazy party like everybody else. You know that
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: they got up when I was supposed to get up
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: and show them examples of it. And dad was you know,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I had friends who was doing crack right in front
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: of me before crack was cracked. You know what I'm saying.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: You know, it was was free based right in front
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: of me, you know, and I'm not bragging about that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: But but I couldn't tell them. I couldn't tell them
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: to stop. You know who was I? I was the
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: same age they were, you know. But I knew that
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: if I dove into that same pool of water, then
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: we're always gonna lose. And I felt that because I
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: held true to who I am. And the reason I
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: bring that up about you because you know you were
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: from Compton. Then you're in Colombia. A new set of
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: rules out there, a new set of rules, a new
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: set of disciplines, a new set of Hey, this is
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: how we want to get it done. What you could
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: do it another different way? What kept you focus? Man?
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: What kept you? I know you said, Rachean, you know
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't want let anybody down. What standards did you
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: put in place for yourself to keep winning? Oh? Yeah,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I mean I knew going to Columbia will be life changing,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: life altering, just because they would change the perception people
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: had to me, just like I grew up with this
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: perception that since I was confident, I had to be
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: this gangster or I had to be an entertainer or
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: athlete the only way to get out because with those
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: limited vehicles, I knew that that wasn't the reality. But
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: that was New York and every single person come up with, Hey, dude,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: who dr Drady and shop Dog and those your homies'll
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: hang out? And I'm like, okay, I get this. So
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I knew was a good game. Day was a good day.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: It was a good day from so when I knew
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I could combine my athletic talents with the stamp of
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: being an IVY League educated player, that would change the game.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Because I could walk into a room right now and
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: immediately demand respect, and you would give me the respect
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: of my intelligence. And it's just the same thing. If
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: you see a guy down the street and you're like, man,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: that dude's in the rolls way, the first thing you
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: think is something's going right in his life, right right,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: right right. If I walk, if I work around and say, hey,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: where'd you graduate from Columbia, They're gonna immediately say something
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: is smart about this brother right here. And that's where
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go. I don't want to have to
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: go through hurdles and hoops to prove to you my intelligence.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: I wanted something to deliver it to you instantaneously. At
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Columbia did that for me. And that's the beauty of
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: you because you know, and it's and it's really interesting.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Because I've watched your TV. I could tell this is
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: highly educated guy. You know, who's who knows the roles
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: of corporate lifestyle, you know, Ivy League trade. But then
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: it's the street guy. It's the street guy. You know,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: could walk and know what street not to walk on,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: know what time of night it is. Because a lot
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: of people don't know. That's why the get robbed. They
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: don't know what time of night. It is, and that's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: a mentality that they helps you, and and and and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: and when I'm listening to you convey what you're doing sports,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: it's very natural to me when I hear you talk,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it's a bouncing not man. As you said,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I am street smart. I grew up in it. Uh
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: that's just my surroundings, and I extracted from that exactly
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: what I needed. The toughness, uh, the work ethic, that discipline,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: because you can't show me rougher circumstances that I've already lived. You.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: So when I get into the real world, I laugh
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: when they say, oh, can you do some extra filming,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: some extra time, can you do another interview? I'm like, dude,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: do you understand what I've been through before? So I'm
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: not phased by this, But there is a game within
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: the game, and more people need to understand that. When
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: you talk about how to work in corporate America and
• 1:00:52
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• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: the game, and those are the critical lessons that more
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: of youngsters need to learn, because that's the difference between
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: being a good professional and being being at the top
• 1:01:07
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:12
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  Speaker 1: For It's a couple of online programs that you're involved,
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• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:48
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• 1:05:50
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  Speaker 1: It's called CUB education, and the Columbia program is unique
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  Speaker 1: Hey man, I want to play ball, Hey man, I
• 1:06:08
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  Speaker 1: you understand the opportunities that surround that orbit the playing field,
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  Speaker 1: not just being a player, but being the executive, being
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: a part of the media, being any part and of
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: the antennas of the game. So we're giving them opportunities
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: to see what they can do to be a part
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: of this ecosystem without necessarily being a player and it's
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: been tremendous because kids just want to be exposed to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: opportunities because their passion is in sports. But maybe they're
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: not the performer for sports, but they can still be
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: a part of that culture and a part of that environment.
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  Speaker 1: So it's been tremendous, and it's tremendous when I look
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: at you like doing during the season. You know, everybody
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: knows you for Sports Nation, you know, and off the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: time when I've seen you your hostess show a lot now,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: which is fantastic, congratulations. And then I started seeing you
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: pop up on at halftime on Monday Night football. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: more more FaceTime for my man, more FaceTime for my
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  Speaker 1: fand you know, because the goal is man to be
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the best in your field. And then also to dump
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: that I'm just a football player. I can talk about anything.
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  Speaker 1: Mentality is that? Is that a brand? That is that
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: the goal? To be an entertainer, to be a personality?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: What is the goal? When I look at Marsala's wild,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: He's brand, what's your goal? Yeah, it's great that you're
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: taking notice of that because I'm supposed to do bad.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: You're rising, stop, you're rising, sto. I love it, man,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it because it's funny. I got the ESPN
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• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: at first, once again, here I go. I'm back in confidence.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: I'm even at FTN. That got me in the box, right,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: I do NFL only NFL, like NFL live NFL. I'm like, okay,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: y'all know that at one, football is not even my
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: favorite sport. Still just the sport I can play, not
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: my favorite sport, and to let me, I'm a person
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: like I have more interest in just football. Absolutely. Two
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: weeks into that gig my, my boss came to me
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: and said, man, you ain't gonna be on this show long.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: And that's a good thing because your personality and your outlook,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna limit that. And that's how that transition
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: into like forest Nation now more hosting and then more
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: opportunities to being prevented weeklies seems like so and it's
• 1:08:29
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• 1:08:32
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• 1:08:35
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• 1:08:38
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• 1:08:40
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• 1:08:43
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• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I know what you're trying to do. And I'm going like,
• 1:08:50
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• 1:08:55
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• 1:08:59
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• 1:09:03
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• 1:09:06
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• 1:09:11
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• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: you did you pumped up? You want the four three forty,
• 1:09:17
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• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: to be the next arena. You know, week before Christ,
• 1:09:31
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  Speaker 1: But she did lose her brain. And that's what you're
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: trying to get out to the kids who are walking
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: to even young adults who are walking up to your day.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: You have more options using your brains than using your muscles,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: said brother. I mean in a prioritize academics like I did,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: um and it looks it sounds great now looking back
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: on it. Right in the moment, let's talk about in
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: the moment, brother, when you got all these major schools
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: coming after you everything. One of my friends is coming
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: to me and saying, you're going to Columbia talk, You're
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: not gonna make it to the NFL, not the world
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: football team in the world. They don't get any coverage,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: any exposure. And my peer pressure was a negative peer pressure.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: No one wanted me to prioritize my books in my brain,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: but I went against the grain and thankfully I did, man,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: and it worked out for the best. But yeah, in
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: the moment, oh that was uphill Klin. Now, tell me
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: about this book that you're gonna have coming out this
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: far because guess what you're not going in where Mr
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Wild and saying Mr Wild, because I'll be promoting that
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: book when it comes out. Tell us about that book, man,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: We want to hear about it. What would it entail. Yeah,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: the book, we're still kicking around titles, but it's gonna
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: entail the journey. And the journey is about the essence
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: of who you are and how you can never let
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: that spirit die, you can never shut that up, you
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: can never be put into that box. And I'm just
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: gonna tell people through the experiences of how not to
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: get boxed in and and the biggest enemy. Like everyone
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: always talks about this world in terms of circumstances, that
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: the crowd you hang around with and all this adversity
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: surrounding you. But I heard this and change my life
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: when I was young by Mark Twain that life is
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: a competition between you and yourself. And when I heard that,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what, it's on me, and if
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen, it's because of me. And when
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: you take that type of responsibility, things start to open
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: up to you because you understand every single moment for
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: it's important. So my book is about taking you through
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: that experience and inspiring people to get the greatest out
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: of themselves. And my journey from Compton to Columbia to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: NFL to EFTN is a unique journey. But I want
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: to show you how your experiences can make you be
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: especial as you want to be. Mr Wiley. You know
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: I've I've taken three books with Steve Harvey to number
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: one best sellers. I've sold, marketing and branded with six
• 1:12:06
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• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: when I tell you I'm a fan, and when I
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: tell you trying to figure out this title, when I
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: tell you rather to go put this book on the shelf,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: you come back to me, my brother, because I'm a friend. Okay,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: I am here. It's more than likely it's gonna be
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: a football season. We're gonna talking to football. We're gonna
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: talk to this book. I look forward. There is a
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: deal man, And I just gotta say this. The super
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Bowl was yesterday. That wasn't important to me. What was
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: important to me with to get your story told on
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: my show, to everybody on my Heart Radio podcast, to
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: everybody to sit there in Atlanta, and everybody on my
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Facebook page. Because you're a very amazing guy. Man,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: keep winning, and look, you can kiss his brother every
• 1:12:48
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• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: guess what he may pop up elsewhere. You keep winning, Brother,
• 1:12:56
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• 1:13:24
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• 1:13:53
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• 1:13:56
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• 1:14:22
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• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: I remember several times just sitting down just talking about
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: food with him in Las Vegas and Los Angeles. He
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: owns Darrow's New Orleans Grill. That's rest, that's Cajun food.
• 1:14:45
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  Speaker 1: the top of the morning that I'm on the East coast. Man,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I missed your brother. I missed you man eighteen years man,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: and you still sound handsome. What about that I'll tell you.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: So here's the deal, you know, because uh, because you know,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: you guys started me, you know, Steve Harving myself out
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: there when we launched that radio show, and yuh you
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: got so much believe And when we went to the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: community that you guys are like, are they in the community,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: because we were. You were all people, you know, we
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: we were the brand that we wanted to communicate with.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden the Neighborhood Awards just
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: jumped off and that was just like a blessing because
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: it allowed us to support the people who supported us.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: And then and the see at the restaurants still out there,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, a bang of business. I may
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: be in l A the tenth and I definitely would
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: be back on the fourteenth in l A. So you
• 1:15:52
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• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: one of them pull boards, a little jumbala, a little gumble.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Why are you you do your gumbo gumbo? There's two
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: types of New Orleans style okra and you never mix
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: it too. And so as you well aware, we don't
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: cook with any pork products. And the backstory on me,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: my family used to cook for the world. Now Commander's
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  Speaker 1: Palace in the Garden District of New Orleans over seven.
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  Speaker 1: Don't don't don't you act like that's that's that's everyday
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  Speaker 1: stuff the world right now. They got an in Vega.
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  Speaker 1: They gotta command this palace and Dave Vegas, I've eat
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  Speaker 1: that it's little and said my family the twenty seven years,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: they're not worked for the Hillston family. And believe it
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: or not, Rashaan And this is back in the day
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: when colored people can work in these five star restaurants
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: and hotels. But you couldn't either stay there. Man. We
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: gave New Walance a flavor, but we don't have a
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: whole lot to show for it. Man. And guess what
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: but your restaurant. You know, let's give it out their
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: website right quick, because I want people to go online
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  Speaker 1: and see this restaurant, this great menu, this food, all
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: this stuff. You know a lot of people take pictures,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: you know, like you can. You can go to those restaurant.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: He's had a little plate over that day. They move
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: that lettuce just right, makes you they catch up slide
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  Speaker 1: off of that frieda not there. What they're showing you
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  Speaker 1: is high. It's gonna be on your plate looking good
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: and you have a lot to offer on your portions
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: because you know us, man, we like the doggy bag
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: and we won't got to do. You know, we developed
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: this concept called Darrelson Wallace Grill. It's a hybrid, it's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: a full bar, and we're the first of its kind
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: in the country, not even in New Orleans that they
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: have this particular concept where you're able to walk into
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: a fast casual Cajun Creole either with a full bar
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: and no pork on the menu, and all the seafood
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: is far and raising grain fed. And not only that too,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: you don't have to get everything fried. You can also
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: get a grill. You know, we try to give you
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: a healthier version of the Cajun Creole cuisine because the
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: food down home tastes good. We'll kill you, man. Okay,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: let me ask you this is this is a really
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: really important question because of the fact that you know,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: as you get older, like you said, the food, you
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: gotta watch your diet and everything. I don't think you
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: stay relevant because a lot of businesses are going out
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: of businesses because you know, like tweaking, you know, they
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: went out of business because people would worry about to
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: get in fat, you know, worried about the food. You know,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: co can change his name again because people are buying
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: more bottle water. Because that means the market is always changing,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: always putting salads on their menu, always trying to figure
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: out how to keep their audience, how to keep current
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: irrelevant and that diet ever changing diet market. How do
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: you stay relevant in this in this in this ever
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: changing market. Well, we keep our ears to the ground,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: and we keep our pulse on the millennials and what's
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: going on in our community and what's going around us.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Because what happens to man, I tell people all the time,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: it's the fact that if you have a great product,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: it has to be more than just a great product.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: You have to find a very sophisticated way in marketing
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: and getting the message out there. There's so many various
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: platforms out there in terms of social media, I mean
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: that's the new thing right now, man, where if you're
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: not on the internet, if you're not on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: and some type of social media platform, it's gonna be
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: very difficult for you to get the message that you're
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: trying to convey out there. And so what we try
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: to do each and every day, Man, listen to the guests.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: We don't have customers. We have guests. When people walk
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: into our establishment, man, we have to give them an
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: experience where before they leave our eatery start thinking about
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: the next trip before they leave. And that's the biggest
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: success to right there. Man. We've been featured all over
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: the world, man. Uh. The sixteen years we were in
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Marina del Rey, we had pot them all over the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: world eating there. We've been featured on Guys Here, We've
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: been on the Best of the Food Network, We've been
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: on the Travel Channel. Now we're on your ward winning showing.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: So we've been very fortunate and very honored that these
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: type of relationships would allow us the platform to get
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: the message out there. You know, just to digress for
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: for a second, Rishan, I've been knowing you for eighteen years. Man.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: I met you at Sony Gower Studios when you're doing
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: the Parkers and we had a little small hole in
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: the wall of Venice. Boulevoid used to come over there.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: And when you and Steve Harvey partnered on the first
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: before we went syndicated, you had us on the show.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: When we're baking for Starbucks, we want, we will want
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: of Starbucks first vnor of color. And you recognize that,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: and you wanted to get the message out there into
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: the community. Said, look, man, Darrel's new Wallace girl. Uncle
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Darrel's baking for Starbucks. Man, that's amazing. Can if all
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: the North rooms in California, Brook, Illinois, Minneapolis, NEMA, Marcus
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: and Beverly Hills, you know. And so those are the
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: type of things, man, that we are attribute our success to.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: It's not about one or two people. It's been about
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: the collective, your willingness and your unselfishness and say, hey, man,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give these folks a platform to get
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: their message to the general public. I will fever be
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: grateful for that to you. Thank you, you know, because
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: that's that's just been my personnelity. I'll tell people ever eighteen,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: I guess it's been my nature to want to help
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: to be able to see a vision. First of all,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: guys are visionaries, you know, And all I, all I
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: was doing was the guy that you know that that
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: vessel and and so so you know what he's saying
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: basically is that I would bring them on the radio
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: station and guess what they would make No advertisement, and
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: I would promote their brand because they felt I figured that, Okay,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: if they don't win in the community, that means that,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: you know, there may not be jobs. You know, we
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: gotta pay taxes. And that was the whole basis of
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of people missed that. They miss it. They
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: miss it. They you know, if the community is not winning,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: then guess what. And that's who you're playing your music too.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: They guess, well, you're not gonna win. You're not gonna
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: win because that guess what. Because because that was the
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: really the key, because the whole key behind the neighbor
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: of awards was to get people to say, okay, you
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: you you see a Burger King, And I'm not saying
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: anything negative about Burger King or even today of five guys,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: these are promoted all the time, you know, Chick fil
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: A all the time, and people are driving right by
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: a restaurant. They're serving equally good food, probably at a
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: cheaper price, and is right in the community. That was
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: the whole basis of the relationships I was creating with
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: people like Nor and his family, because hey, man, I
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: gotta support you guys, because you guys are winning for
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: us long term and eighteen years later. Guess what we're
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: talking on my man? Well, you know, I love you
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: for life. Man, coming on the president of your club.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Because that's that's that's important to talk about right now,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: about relationships because a lot of people missed the boat
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: explained it insignificance of some of the relationships outside of me.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: But there's been other people have been important, not only
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: just diners or as you'd like to call him. Guess
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: those relationships right, Well, you know what's what's pivotal to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: to our success. Man was Irvin Magic Johnson when Maggie
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: first started. When Magic first started in business with the theaters,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: his company called us, reached out to us and say, look,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: we want you guys to make some products for our
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: theaters and fly back to Manhattan to meet with the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: company back there, and we were in the Magic Johnson
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: theaters when he did the deal with Starbucks. Starbucks called
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: us from their corporate office. They came here to vet us, obviously,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: and we went from one Starbucks stores at thirty Starbucks stores.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Magic wrote a book called h thirty two Ways to
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Be a Success in Business New York Times bestseller. We
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: featured prominently in the book. Everything he has done. He's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: in terms of food wise Chrishan, He's always tried to
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: incorporate Uncle Darrel's in there, man, So I would be
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: grateful for him. Felishers Shot of the Cosby's was out
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: here taking an episode of a Different World. Debbie Allen
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: was directing the show at that time. We're selling the
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  Speaker 1: candy to the to the crew members and to the
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: cast of a Different World. Felister shot happened to taste
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: of a con candidate. We're making out flags your product.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: She called us and invited us to come back to
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: New York to a story New York to introduce the
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: candy to the cast members and crew of The Cosby
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Show back in the time. Man, isn't that amazing? Man? Well,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: that that, but you had the product. Though. Here's the
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: thing I want to say to you, know what is
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: that when the call came to you, you was ready.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: What makes me mad with a lot of our young
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: people out there, or even older people out there, when
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: the call comes to them, they're not even prepared to
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: be ready. So you always wanted to be ready. You
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: always got up every day at the same time going there,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: even though you didn't see it. Happening. You knew it
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: would happen. And when you got the call, like you said,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Starbucks came down and vetted you guess what. You were
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: just kicking around, just happy, little, good lucking guy. And
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: it comes down to let you go. Man, I don't
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: know why magic talking to these folks. They're crazy, you know.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: And that's really what we're talking about right now is preparation.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: And when I look at what you're doing and what
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: you're trying to accomplish, even if you futuristic, you said, Rashan,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: we're trying to get in ahead of these millennials. Because
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: it was it was like it was a pole without
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: saying that five years ago the millennial Mail was seventy
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: were interested in the super Bowl. They took a recently
• 1:24:52
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about your parents now. Now your mama, your
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  Speaker 1: I felt it important because that's why I took away
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• 1:36:30
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• 1:37:26
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