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FBI Caught Red-Handed Retaliating Against Whistleblowers plus Radical U.S. Attorney Resigns in Disgrace · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome it as a verdict. With Senator Ted Cruz Ben
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  Speaker 1: Ferguson with you, Senator, We've got some victories to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that are big for this country coming up in
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  Speaker 1: just a moment. But before we get to that, an
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  Speaker 1: FBI special agent has come forward as a whistleblower, along
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  Speaker 1: with several other whistle blowers who have now gone before
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  Speaker 1: Congress on the House side Jim Jordan's committee, I want
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  Speaker 1: to get your just initial reaction to finally getting to
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  Speaker 1: see what these whistleblowers are saying.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the evidence keeps coming out every day about just
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  Speaker 2: how politicized and how weaponized the FBI and the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice has become under Joe Biden. Yesterday in the
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  Speaker 2: House of Representatives and hearing chaired by Jim Jordan, there
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  Speaker 2: was testimony from multiple FBI whistleblowers who heroically came forward
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  Speaker 2: at enormous risk to themselves, at enormous risk to themselves,
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  Speaker 2: to their career, to their livelihoods, to the ability to
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  Speaker 2: feed their families, and among other things. They testified that
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  Speaker 2: that risk was not theoretical, but it was it was
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  Speaker 2: very real, and yet they were so disturbed by the
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  Speaker 2: politicization by the corruption that they had witnessed at the
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  Speaker 2: FBI that they felt obliged to come forward, and it
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  Speaker 2: really was striking. This is a continuation of the two
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  Speaker 2: podcasts we did last week, the special Interview with Jim Jordan,
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  Speaker 2: where Jim previewed this testimony with us on the two
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  Speaker 2: podcasts last week, and and if you didn't listen to
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  Speaker 2: them last week, you should go back and listen to
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  Speaker 2: Jim walking through the evidence of weaponization that has been
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  Speaker 2: developed by the House to date. But the hearing yesterday, well,
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  Speaker 2: it started with Jim Jordan giving a warning to the
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  Speaker 2: FBI whistleblowers who could come forward. Listen to what Jim
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  Speaker 2: warned them as the hearing began. We've talked over two
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  Speaker 2: dozen workustle blowers. People have come to us.
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  Speaker 3: We've interviewed several of those, and today three of them,
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  Speaker 3: three of those brave whistle blowers and the lawyer who
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  Speaker 3: represents them, will tell us their story. They will tell
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  Speaker 3: us what happened, what they saw, and then what happened
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  Speaker 3: to them because they were courageous enough to report it
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  Speaker 3: to Congress. And I just want to tell you, guys,
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  Speaker 3: get ready, get ready, because these guys are going to
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  Speaker 3: come after you.
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  Speaker 4: You know they are last hearing we had.
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  Speaker 3: Last hearing we had we had two journalists Democrats, two
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  Speaker 3: Democrat journalists set right where you guys did, and these
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  Speaker 3: guys tried to get them to divulge their sources. Someone
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  Speaker 3: needs to tell them how the First Amendment works. And
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  Speaker 3: while mister Tayabe, one of those award winning journalists setting
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  Speaker 3: right where you're setting, was testifying, guess what else was happening.
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  Speaker 3: The irs was knocking on his door. So get ready.
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  Speaker 3: But I know you're up to the task because you
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  Speaker 3: came forward in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: Senator, you listened to Jim Jordan's warning, and it's clearly
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  Speaker 1: accurate based on what these whistleblowers have experienced, including the
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  Speaker 1: fact that this FBI whistleblower testified for the first time
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  Speaker 1: publicly that not only did he swear to defend this
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  Speaker 1: country from enemies both foreign and domestic, but he didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize that he was going to have to sacrifice his
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  Speaker 1: entire career after being a whistleblower when the FBI retaliated
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  Speaker 1: against him. And that's not what the law says it's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to happen.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right under federal law. If you come forward
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  Speaker 2: as a whistleblower, you're entitled to the protection of law,
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  Speaker 2: and it is illegal. It is a crime for your
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  Speaker 2: employer to retaliate against you for being a whistleblower for
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  Speaker 2: exposing corruption, especially when you're taking it to the United
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  Speaker 2: States Congress. The Congress has a responsibility under a constitution
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  Speaker 2: to engage in oversight. And yet the FBI sadly that
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  Speaker 2: they're so brazen in how politicized they are that they
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  Speaker 2: didn't hesitate to go after these guys directly and immediately. Well, here,
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  Speaker 2: listen to the testimony from one of the witnesses about
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  Speaker 2: how they went after him very directly.
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  Speaker 5: It's currently in place at the FBI are clearly inadequate
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  Speaker 5: and must be reworked to protect whistle blowers and others
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  Speaker 5: who are inappropriately targeted. The FBI can extract whatever they
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  Speaker 5: want from me. I'm willing to bear that burden. I've
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  Speaker 5: sworn to defend this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic,
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  Speaker 5: even if that means sacrificing my life. I've lived that
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  Speaker 5: oath out since first enlisting in the army, consistently saying here,
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  Speaker 5: am I send me my oath, however, did not include
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  Speaker 5: sacrificing the hopes, dreams, and livelihood of my family, my strong,
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  Speaker 5: beautiful and courageous wife and our four sweet and beautiful
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  Speaker 5: daughters who have endured this process along with me. In
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  Speaker 5: weaponized fashion, the FBI allowed me to accept orders to
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  Speaker 5: a new position halfway across the country. They allowed us
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  Speaker 5: to sell my family's home. They ordered me to report
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  Speaker 5: to the new unit when our youngest, a Or, was
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  Speaker 5: two weeks old. Then on my first day on the
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  Speaker 5: new assignment, they suspended me, rendering my family homeless. They
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  Speaker 5: refused to release our goods, including our clothes.
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  Speaker 4: For weeks.
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  Speaker 5: All I wanted to do was serve my country by
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  Speaker 5: stopping bad guys and protecting the innocent. To my chagrin,
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  Speaker 5: bad guys have begun running parts of the government, making
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  Speaker 5: it difficult to continue to serve this nation and protect
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  Speaker 5: the innocent. But I, for one, will never stop trying,
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  Speaker 5: and I'll never forget my oath.
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  Speaker 4: Sater.
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  Speaker 1: You hear him there, He gets choked up because it's
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  Speaker 1: obvious the FBI knew what they were doing. They decided, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna whistle blow. You're not going to be one
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  Speaker 1: of us, you're going to tell the truth. Fine, we'll
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  Speaker 1: ship you off to a new job, and then when
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  Speaker 1: you get there on day one, we are going to
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  Speaker 1: suspend you, leave you home with and hold your goods hostage.
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  Speaker 1: Is that not the definition of retaliation?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's petty, it's vindictive, and understand the timeline. And
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  Speaker 2: he laid out that they did this after he had
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  Speaker 2: come forward as a whistleblower. So they transfer him, he
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  Speaker 2: sells his house, he moves his family, and then boom,
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  Speaker 2: when he gets there, the job that he was transferred
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  Speaker 2: to do, he's prevented from doing. And that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it reveals a lot that his supervisors seemingly have no
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  Speaker 2: fear of any consequences for this retaliation. They're in a culture. Look,
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  Speaker 2: this is the same culture that pervaded the FBI, that
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  Speaker 2: led the FBI to target Donald Trump when he was
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  Speaker 2: the Republican nominee for president and to feel like they
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  Speaker 2: needn't worry about whether there was any evidence of collusion
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  Speaker 2: with Russia. They needn't worry about whether the thing they
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  Speaker 2: were investigating, the Steel Dossier, was a fraudulent piece of
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  Speaker 2: opposition research paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign, which
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  Speaker 2: it was and which they had every reason to know
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  Speaker 2: that it was, because, unfortunately, it appears that these corrupt
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  Speaker 2: partisans in senior positions at the FBI believe they are
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  Speaker 2: impervious to the strictures of law or to any accountability.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same arrogance that pervaded the IRS, that led
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  Speaker 2: the IRS to come knocking on the door of journalist
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  Speaker 2: Matt Taibi literally while he is sitting testifying before Congress.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't have the good good sense to wait a
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  Speaker 2: day or a week and make it seem coincidental. They
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  Speaker 2: wanted you to know you rat on us, We're coming
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  Speaker 2: after you. That's the same vindictiveness the FBI is demonstrating here.
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  Speaker 1: You look at this testimony from this former FBI agent
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  Speaker 1: Army as an infantryman in Iraq and Afghanistan for a
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  Speaker 1: year each, but according to his testimony in the report,
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  Speaker 1: he received the combat infantryman bad just the man that
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  Speaker 1: believed in this country. He also the report alleges that
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  Speaker 1: the whistleblower testimony reveals quote that the FBI's partisan leadership
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  Speaker 1: is currently engaged in a purge of agents who hold
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  Speaker 1: the FBI's partisan leadership is currently engaged in a purge
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  Speaker 1: of agents who hold conservative beliefs. The whistleblower even disclose
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  Speaker 1: that many of their jobs, their career paths have been
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  Speaker 1: basically stunted on purpose to get them frustrated so they'll
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  Speaker 1: maybe just leave on their own.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Unfortunately, I think this is a pattern we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: throughout the Biden administration, but particularly in areas of the
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  Speaker 2: military and law enforcement. I think they're doing everything they
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  Speaker 2: can to try to drive conservatives out of government. We've
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  Speaker 2: talked on this podcast before. I think that was one
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  Speaker 2: of the major objectives of the Biden vaccine mandate for
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  Speaker 2: government employees is that they knew that those men and
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  Speaker 2: women who refused to take the vaccine were much more
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  Speaker 2: likely to be conservative, and their view was good riddance.
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  Speaker 2: Get them out of the FBI, get them out of DOJ,
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  Speaker 2: get them out of the military, get them out of
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  Speaker 2: the border patrol, get them out of the federal government.
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  Speaker 2: And it is part of turning all of the enforcement
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  Speaker 2: mechanism of the government into a weapon, a weapon to
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  Speaker 2: be used to target your enemies. And so that weapon
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  Speaker 2: is used against the individual employees who happen to be conservative,
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  Speaker 2: and it's also used against American citizens because when you've
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  Speaker 2: driven all the conservatives out, those who remain appear far
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  Speaker 2: more willing to be complicit in the abuse of power.
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  Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, as I am in DC,
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  Speaker 2: as i'm back in Texas, as I travel around, I
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  Speaker 2: regularly speak to employees at the Department of Justice, employees
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  Speaker 2: at the FBI, whether special agents, whether prosecutors, who are
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  Speaker 2: deeply dismayed at what they're seeing in the department. And
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  Speaker 2: they're dismayed, but they're afraid to speak out. They're afraid
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  Speaker 2: because the consequences, because they believe in their mission. Look,
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  Speaker 2: most people that are at DOJ or the FBI, they
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  Speaker 2: sign up because they want to stop bad guys. They
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  Speaker 2: want to lock up child predators, they want to lock
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  Speaker 2: up terrorists, they want to keep America safe. And there
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  Speaker 2: are thousands upon thousands of honorable heroes at DOJ and
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  Speaker 2: the FBI, but many of them right now are scared
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  Speaker 2: to speak. And I got to say, one of the
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  Speaker 2: more chilling exchanges in the testimony today was when one
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  Speaker 2: of the witnesses was asked would he advise another whistleblower
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  Speaker 2: to come forward.
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  Speaker 4: Listen to his answer, mister.
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  Speaker 6: Boyle, we just heard from your interaction with mister Gates
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  Speaker 6: and how all of this occurred and all of the
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  Speaker 6: hardships you've gone through. If one of your really good friends,
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  Speaker 6: your former colleagues, came to you and said, I have
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  Speaker 6: this thing that is being covered up and I think
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  Speaker 6: the American people need to know about it, what advice
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  Speaker 6: would you give them.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell them first to pray about it long and hard,
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  Speaker 5: and I would tell them I could take it to
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  Speaker 5: Congress for them, or I could put them in touch
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  Speaker 5: with Congress, but I would advise them not to do it.
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  Speaker 6: So you would legitimately try to protect one of your
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  Speaker 6: colleagues from doing what you have done.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and how do you think.
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  Speaker 6: That solves being able to shine light on corruption, weaponization,
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  Speaker 6: any kind of misconduct that exists with the American people.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't solve it. But the FBI will crush you.
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  Speaker 5: This government will crush you and your family if you
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  Speaker 5: try to expose the truth about things that they are
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  Speaker 5: doing that are wrong, and we are all examples of that.
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  Speaker 6: I can't think of a more so wearing way to
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  Speaker 6: end a hearing.
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  Speaker 4: Iiel back, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, you hear that, and I do think it's shocking,
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  Speaker 1: But I think Democrats are proud of this moment Center.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, good, you should be scared, you should be terrified.
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  Speaker 1: This is intimidation, this is what they want.
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  Speaker 2: And I got to say, one of the more disappointing
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  Speaker 2: aspects of yesterday's hearing was the Democrat congress men and
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  Speaker 2: women who were perfectly happy to attack these FBI whistleblowers.
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  Speaker 2: They treat this as a partisan battle, our team versus
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  Speaker 2: their team, and in their view, if you dare dissent
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  Speaker 2: from the brutal repression of descent, then you're suddenly the enemy.
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  Speaker 2: And I got to say, look, I get that they're
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  Speaker 2: partisan battles in Washington, but I have to admit if
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  Speaker 2: the shoe were on the other foot, and this testimony
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  Speaker 2: about the weaponization of the FBI to target people because
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  Speaker 2: of their political views on the left, I'm quite confident
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  Speaker 2: I would be. Every bit is dismayed, and I wonder
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  Speaker 2: where is the Democrat who cares about the rule of law,
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  Speaker 2: even if the Democrat happens to you know, not like
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  Speaker 2: the conservatives who are the target of this persecution. Is
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  Speaker 2: is there not a single Democrat congressman who says, well, gosh,
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  Speaker 2: if the DOJ and FBI can be turned to attack
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  Speaker 2: the political opponents of the White House, you know, that
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  Speaker 2: could happen to us too. Now, mind you, they're rhetoric.
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  Speaker 2: They claimed it happened under Trump all the time. But
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  Speaker 2: if you actually look to evidence, the Department of Justice
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  Speaker 2: didn't do that. It didn't didn't go out and persecute
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  Speaker 2: the political opponents of the president. In fact, they should
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  Speaker 2: have done much more going after Antifa, violent criminals, but
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  Speaker 2: not for their political views. Look, you can be a
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  Speaker 2: leftist or an anarchist if you want. That's not criminal.
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  Speaker 2: But when you light cities on fire, and you loot stores,
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  Speaker 2: and you assault people and murder people, that is criminal.
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  Speaker 2: And if anything, I think that Trump DOJ should have
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  Speaker 2: been much more vigorous in going after violent criminals. But
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  Speaker 2: that's not politicization, that's actually doing your job. Where is
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat willing to defend the rule of law? And
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  Speaker 2: I'll point out when Congress a generation before heard the
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  Speaker 2: evidence of Richard Nixon, trying to politicize the Department of Justice,
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  Speaker 2: trying to politicize the FBI, trying to politicize the irs.
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  Speaker 2: Numerous Republicans stood up and said, this is beyond the pale,
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  Speaker 2: This is too much, this is not acceptable. Is there
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  Speaker 2: not one Democrat member of Congress with the same level
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  Speaker 2: of integrity that you saw Republican after Republican who called
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  Speaker 2: for Richard Nixon's investigation and ultimately resignation, Like, is there
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  Speaker 2: not one Democrat who cares about rule of law?
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  Speaker 1: One of the whistle blowers also said Senator that the
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  Speaker 1: FBI is quote currently cancerous and has let itself become
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  Speaker 1: enveloped in the politicalization and weaponization. And the example was
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  Speaker 1: the FBI classified every single this is the testimony January
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  Speaker 1: sixth case as a domestic terrorism case, according to the whistleblower,
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  Speaker 1: despite quote hundreds of them being resolved resolved as petty
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  Speaker 1: crimes like trespassing and or disorderly conduct. You were labeled
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  Speaker 1: as a domestic terrorist in a domestic terrorism case.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and that's politics, mind you. This is the same
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  Speaker 2: FBI that apparently has no resources to go after the
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  Speaker 2: people who are firebombing crisis pregnancy centers that apparently has
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  Speaker 2: no resources to go after the people who are breaking
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  Speaker 2: federal law brazenly night after night, protesting outside the homes
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  Speaker 2: of Supreme Court justices and implicitly threatening their lives and
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  Speaker 2: their families. They can't be bothered to devote their resources
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  Speaker 2: to doing that. But when it comes to criminalizing peaceful speech,
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  Speaker 2: that the FBI and DOJ have unlimited resources for. And
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  Speaker 2: to be clear, there's a fundamental difference between violence and
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  Speaker 2: peaceful speech. If you engage in violence, whether I agree
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  Speaker 2: with you or not. If you engage in violence, you
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  Speaker 2: should be prosecuted and go to jail. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: engaged in peaceful speech, whether I agree with you or not,
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  Speaker 2: that is protected by the First Amendment. And this Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice under Joe Biden, and this FBI under Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden wants to treat them as exactly the same and
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  Speaker 2: criminalize the speech of those who showed up on January
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  Speaker 2: sixth to support President Trump, but more broadly, the tens
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  Speaker 2: of millions of Republicans who vote on the other side.
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  Speaker 2: These are the same people that want to criminalize the
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  Speaker 2: speech of moms and dads going to school boards and indeed,
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  Speaker 2: the same FBI agents. They've got ample resources to go
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  Speaker 2: and interview dozens of parents for exercising their First Amendment rights.
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  Speaker 2: It's political intimidation, and it is deliberate, and it is
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  Speaker 2: from the very top. It is from Merrick Garland, the
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  Speaker 2: most political Attorney general this country's ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: The good news is, and I hope that what happens
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  Speaker 1: is other whistleblowers will be inspired by these people that
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  Speaker 1: have come forward and do the exact same thing, because
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  Speaker 1: this is how we change the tide of what's happening
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  Speaker 7: We have an update for you on Massachusetts US Attorney
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  Speaker 7: Rachel Rawlins a brand new report just out moments ago
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  Speaker 7: finds that she quote wilfully violated the Hatch Act on
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  Speaker 7: multiple occasions during.
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  Speaker 4: Her time as US Attorney Now.
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  Speaker 7: The report, published by the US Office of Special Counsel,
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  Speaker 7: comes one day after Rollins announced that she plans to
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  Speaker 7: resign from her post by the end of the week.
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  Speaker 4: So let's explain what this means here.
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  Speaker 7: The Hatch Act is critically important to our government and
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  Speaker 7: certain parts of our certain branches of our government being
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  Speaker 7: non partisan.
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  Speaker 4: It's designed to limit certain.
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  Speaker 7: Political activities of federal employees to ensure federal programs remain
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  Speaker 7: nonpartisan and not biased. Rollins is accused of attending a
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  Speaker 7: political party.
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  Speaker 4: Fundraiser while in office.
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  Speaker 7: The report also saying she tried to sabotage the campaign
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  Speaker 7: of a political candidate by leaking non public information to
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  Speaker 7: the media.
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  Speaker 1: I mean center. The worst part is Democrats and everything
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  Speaker 1: they could to save her. And finally, after violating the
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  Speaker 1: most egregious Hatch Act violations, she's now going to resign.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she has resigned, and I have to say this
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  Speaker 2: is an enormous victory for the role of law number one.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about weaponizing the Department of Justice and abusing power.
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  Speaker 2: Rachel Rollins did all of that, and the report that
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  Speaker 2: came out is stunning. There were two reports that actually
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  Speaker 2: came out. One from the Office of the Special Council.
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  Speaker 2: That's an office that has exclusive jurisdiction investigating allegations concerning
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  Speaker 2: prohibited political activities under the Hatch Act. The Hatch AC
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  Speaker 2: specifically prohibits most government employees from engaging in partisan politics.
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  Speaker 2: So that was one report, and there was a second
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  Speaker 2: parallel investigation from the Department of Justice Office of the
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  Speaker 2: Inspector General. Both released reports and the reports were damning.
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  Speaker 2: So what they found she did is number one, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm quoting from the OIG report. Rollins assisted a candidate
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  Speaker 2: and a partisan political election and sought to influence an
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  Speaker 2: election by, among other things, disclosing non public sensitive DOJ
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  Speaker 2: information to the press. Rollins made false statements under oath
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  Speaker 2: and lacked candor about the disclosure during her OIG interview.
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  Speaker 2: And this concern. She had been the Suffolk DA District
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  Speaker 2: attorney before she was named US attorney, and there was
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a race to succeed her, and she wanted one really
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  Speaker 2: left wing Democrat candidate, Ricardo Arroyo, That's who she wanted
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: in the primary, and in order to help her guy,
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  Speaker 2: she was trying to smear the other Democrats. So she
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  Speaker 2: was willing to break the law, not even to smear
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  Speaker 2: a Republican, to smear a Democrat who wasn't sufficiently left
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  Speaker 2: wing for her. And according to the OIG, she used
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  Speaker 2: her position as US Attorney and information available to her
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  Speaker 2: as US attorney in an ultimately unsuccessful effort to create
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  Speaker 2: the impression publicly before the primary election that DOJ was
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  Speaker 2: or would be investigating Hayden, the other Democrat, for public corruption.
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  Speaker 2: These efforts included, but were not limited to Rollins trying
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  Speaker 2: unsuccessfully to convince her first assistant US Attorney to issue
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  Speaker 2: a letter that would have created the impression that DOJ
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  Speaker 2: was investigating Haye and when that effort failed, disclosing non
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  Speaker 2: public sensitive DOJ information directly to a Herald reporter before
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  Speaker 2: the primary election. Afterwards, she falsely testified under oath during
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: her OIG interview, she made false statements, which is a
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  Speaker 2: felony under eighteen USC. Section one thousand and one. And
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: on top of that, she's the sitting US attorney, and
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  Speaker 2: she attended a Democrat fundraiser on July fourteenth, twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: two with Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife. Now, before she
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  Speaker 2: went to that fundraiser, she asked the Executive Office of
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: US Attorney's the General Council's Office, could she go to
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  Speaker 2: the fundraiser, And they said, no, she can't go to
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  Speaker 2: the fundraiser. They said, if you want, you can meet
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  Speaker 2: Jill Biden outside of the location of the event and
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: a brief meet and greet outdoors, but you can't go
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: into a politically partisan fundraiser because you're the sitting US
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  Speaker 2: attorney and that is against the rules for a federal
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: prosecutor to engage in partisan politics. Well, even after she'd
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: received that explicit instruction from the General Counsel's office, contrary
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  Speaker 2: to the advice she gave it, I'll just read what
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  Speaker 2: the OIG concluded quote. Our investigation revealed that, contrary to
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: the advice she received, Rollins attended the fundraising event. Based
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  Speaker 2: on Rollins's only only account of what she did. After
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  Speaker 2: she arrived at the fundraising location, Rollins went inside the home,
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  Speaker 2: mingled with the guest, and stood in the same receiving
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  Speaker 2: line as the other fundraising gets guests to meet doctor Biden.
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  Speaker 2: Rollinson's interactions with doctor Biden was identical to that of
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  Speaker 2: the other fundraising guests whose primary purpose for being at
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  Speaker 2: the event was to get in line and meet doctor Biden.
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  Speaker 2: That is stunning. It is a pattern of illegality. It
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  Speaker 2: is a pattern of a sitting US attorney committing multiple
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  Speaker 2: felonies so bad, and abusing her power as a federal
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  Speaker 2: prosecutor to try to influence an election, in particular, to
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  Speaker 2: try to smear a Democrat, not even a Republican, a
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  Speaker 2: Democrat who wasn't sufficiently left wing and radical. This report
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  Speaker 2: came out and Rachel Rollins is resigned. That's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: It is a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: And you warned the American people about Rachel Rawlings and
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  Speaker 4: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: Rachel Rollins has been vocal and aggressive against prosecuting crime.
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  Speaker 2: She has been very clear that she came into the
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  Speaker 2: job of district Attorney as a crusader. She has said,
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  Speaker 2: and these are her words, if you want to change
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  Speaker 2: the criminal legal system, become a prosecutor, because they have
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  Speaker 2: the power to determine charges, what crimes to decline to prosecute.
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  Speaker 2: About a prosecutor, it's not taking bad guys off a street,
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  Speaker 2: it's not seeking justice for the victims of crime.
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  Speaker 4: No, it is the.
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  Speaker 2: Power to say I won't prosecute these crimes. And with
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  Speaker 2: mss Rollins, it's not hypothetical because she is a district
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  Speaker 2: attorney and as the Boston DA, she went so far
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  Speaker 2: as to write down am in quote the Rachel Rollins
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  Speaker 2: policy Memo, a list of fifteen crimes whose prosecution quote
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  Speaker 2: should always be declined or quote dismissed without conditions. Charges
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  Speaker 2: on this list of fifteen crimes should be declined or
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  Speaker 2: dismissed pre arraignment without conditions. The presumption is the charges
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  Speaker 2: that fall into this category should always be declined. So
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  Speaker 2: you've got a DA saying these are the crimes we
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  Speaker 2: don't prosecute always be declined dismissed without conditions. So you
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  Speaker 2: may say, Okay, maybe this is like some sort of
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: criminal justice reform. Maybe this is low level nonviolent marijuana possessions.
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  Speaker 2: Teenager got caught with a joints. We're not going to
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  Speaker 2: prosecute those. Look reasonable people can actually disagree on that.
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  Speaker 2: We can have an intelligent conversation back and forth about that.
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  Speaker 2: But the beauty of it is we don't have to
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  Speaker 2: speculate because.
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  Speaker 4: You put it in writing.
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  Speaker 2: These are the fifteen crimes. They're upside down, as are
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  Speaker 2: her policies. These are the fifteen crimes where charges should
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  Speaker 2: be dismissed pre arraignment without condition. Number one trespass. So
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  Speaker 2: I want you to think about it. If you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to see people trespassing on your property, well, under
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  Speaker 2: Rachel Rollins, the Democrats US attorney, we don't prosecute trespass.
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  Speaker 4: What else?
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  Speaker 2: Shoplifting? Does anyone watch the videos of the people breaking
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: into stores and stealing and stealing and stealing and looting.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: You know what, Joe Biden and Senate Democrats, they're bringing
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that to a neighborhood near you. Shoplifting, we don't prosecute.
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  Speaker 2: That's what she says, shoplifting, Ali Ali oxen free. You
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  Speaker 2: see a TV you like, pick that damn thing up
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  Speaker 2: and run out of the store because your friend, the
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  Speaker 2: fake prosecutor, is not going to charge you larsening, really larceny, larceny.
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  Speaker 2: We don't prosecute disorderly conduct. You're a single mom coming
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  Speaker 2: home at night. A drunk vagrant is yelling, screaming, cursing
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: at your kids. You know what? Not a crime here?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: We don't prosecute that. What else? Receiving stolen property? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is at least intellectually consistent. You're going to legalize shoplifting,
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  Speaker 2: rob the hell out of the stores. At least the
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  Speaker 2: fence can be on the back end, so you can
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: steal that TV goes straight to the fence. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you could do it in the parking lot.
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  Speaker 2: Set up a van right there. We fence stolen property.
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  Speaker 2: You run in and grab it, ill fence it right here.
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  Speaker 2: DA all good by us. Driving with a suspended license,
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  Speaker 2: well sometimes that might be okay. What was it suspended for?
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  Speaker 2: Was it suspended for DWI? Was it suspended because you're
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  Speaker 2: a drunk who's killed people? Was it suspended because you're
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  Speaker 2: this homicidal maniac in Milwaukee who murdered six people. You
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  Speaker 2: know what this DA says, Hey, driving was suspended license,
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  Speaker 2: no problem at all, No longer a crime. Raking and
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  Speaker 2: entering into a vacant property without property damage. So any
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  Speaker 2: property that's vacant, you can break in and you're fine.
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  Speaker 2: Locks don't matter. Burglar alarms don't matter. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: burglar alarm goes off, what the hell do you do?
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  Speaker 2: You show up? Hey, you don't prosecute it. I'm staying
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  Speaker 2: right here. You may say, well, at least there's something reasonable.
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  Speaker 2: It's without property damage. Right well now, except the problem
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  Speaker 2: is number eight on the list, breaking an entering into
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  Speaker 2: a vacant property with property damage. So it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Break into the place, loot it, trash it, destroy it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: All is good in Joe Biden's criminal friendly America. Number nine,
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  Speaker 2: wanting or malicious destruction of property. By the way, don't
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  Speaker 2: believe the Democratic talking points. This stuff isn't violent. Really,
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  Speaker 2: wanting or malicious destruction of property. I'm in Joe Biden's
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  Speaker 2: America threats, threats of violence. I want you to imagine
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  Speaker 2: right now, you've got an angry vagrant making threats of
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: violence against your children. You call the DA saying, my
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: family's being threatened. Protect our safety. And what does she say?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Not a crime? Oh, well, stinks to be you. Threats
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: are just a okay. Minor in possession of alcohol. Hey, great, kids,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: drink up. Actually, the beauty of it is in Joe
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Biden's America, the kids can get drunk, they can drive,
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  Speaker 2: they can have their license suspended, and apparently they'll get
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a gold star at the end of it. Minor possession
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: of alcohol, we've got senate pages here. Just go down
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: to the US Attorney's office. They're serving Margarita's marijuana possession. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I said. We can debate marijuana possession. Reasonable people can
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: disagree on that. Now doesn't specify the quantity. Teenager with
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: a joint, You could say that that may be a
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: good candidate for diversion to something else. Drug dealer with
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: several kilos of pot in the back, Maybe you ought
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  Speaker 2: to be prosecuting that. Oh and by the way, how
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  Speaker 2: do we know she doesn't just limit it to the
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: kids with a joint? Well, what's number thirteen on the list?
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  Speaker 2: Possession with intent to distribute? So drug dealers in Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden's America, drug dealers, it is legal. You can sell
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  Speaker 2: booze to kids, you can sell drugs to kids, you
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  Speaker 2: can sell stolen televisions to kids. Prosecute drug dealers, but look,
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  Speaker 2: at least it's just pot. And come on, we know
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  Speaker 2: you know in states a lot of states, pot's not
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  Speaker 2: that bad, right, It's just pot? Uh oh? Number fourteen
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  Speaker 2: non marijuana drug possession. So for any Democrats ready to
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  Speaker 2: go home saying, hey, we just like pot because we're Democrats, Nope, heroin, cocaine, LSD, fentanyl,
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  Speaker 2: drug dealers who are poisoning our kids in Joe Biden's America,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: we don't prosecute you. And number fifteen is really the
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  Speaker 2: crowning jewel of this resisting arrest. So I want you
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  Speaker 2: to envision what this says. You can break and enter
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  Speaker 2: into vacant property and do damage. You can have a
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  Speaker 2: homeless person trespass on your front lawn, set up a tent,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: threaten your children, sell them drugs, and if a police
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  Speaker 2: officer shows up and tries to arrest them, they can
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: violently resist arrest. And what does the DA say?
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  Speaker 4: All good by me, Senator.
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  Speaker 1: That policy memo is shocking, but it is the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Rachel Rollins was the single most extreme US attorney
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  Speaker 2: in the country. She was a George Soros prosecutor. She
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  Speaker 2: effectively abolished the police for those fifteen crimes. Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: nominated her. He's nominated a total of three of the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: leading advocates of abolishing the police to senior positions in
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the Department of Justice, including Rachel Rollins. That speech you
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: just played I gave on the Senate floor, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how you read that memo, how you look at
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: those facts, and how you vote to confirm this person
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  Speaker 2: as the chief you be prosecutor in the state of Massachusetts,
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  Speaker 2: other than if you're a Democrat, you believe you'll never
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: be held to account because no reporter will ever ask
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  Speaker 2: you about it. Well, you know what, every single Democrat,
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  Speaker 2: all of them, one hundred percent, voted to confirm Rachel Rollins.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Manchin, the supposed moderate, voted to confirm Rachel Rollins
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  Speaker 2: because they know the press will never ever ever hold
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: them to account. And then after they voted for this radical,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: she went and lawlessly abused the office, committed crimes in
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the office, and now she's resigned so it's a victory
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  Speaker 2: for the rule of law, and it's reason to celebrate.
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