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The Eldest Daughter of the Church (#136) · Considering Catholicism

In our last episode, What is Faith?, Corey and I began a conversation about knowledge, belief, and saving faith.
Now, we'll continue that conversation in the next episode, diving into the differences between infallible Catholic dogmas, which we must believe, and Catholic teachings.
Which are not necessarily binding articles of the faith, but in between, we wanted to sandwich in this bonus episode to bring you some updates about the podcast and invite you to take a free online class in Catholic Church history that I'll be teaching over the next few months.
Well, Ed, we're sitting out here in the forest.
We've been out here.
We just recorded another episode, but while we were doing that, the sun came out.
Yes.
It's been kind of a little overcast today.
And now the.
The sunlight is filtering down through the pines.
We crab all year, all winter about how cold it is, and rightfully so.
And yesterday and the day before, it was unbelievably hot.
Yeah, it was like muggy and heavy and stuffy, and I don't like that.
Like, I grew up in the southwest U.
S.,
you know, and so I like...
The Mediterranean Southern California climate where I grew up or, or I like, I really liked the desert out there.
Like I've spent a lot of time, lived and spent a lot of time in like Arizona and Colorado and, you know, Nevada.
And I just like that climate and I love where we live in the great lakes, but you can get a few weeks a year where it gets this kind of feels like Atlanta or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess it's kind of a heavy thing, but you know, we're, we're just about now to Labor Day.
Yeah.
The next week is Labor Day, and then the best time of the year here, hands down, is September October.
Yeah.
Like, if you, dear listener, have never been to this part of the country, in the Great Lakes, on the Shores of the Great Lakes, in, like, September...
Yeah.
It is, it is like if we could have 10 months of September, you know, maybe, maybe a month of snow around Christmas.
So we have white Christmas and then like, you know, it'd be hot at the 4th of July.
But if we, cause it's like this low humidity, it's beautiful kind of breezes off the Great Lakes.
It's like 72 degrees.
There's no bugs.
It's just, it's, it's like.
It's like dead nuts perfect and it's in get into october and people are starting to burn leaves and there's no The greatest smell in the world is that and then out here in the secret compound, of course Um, some distance away from us over here we have a big fire pit area And so we were just talking about as soon as we get into september here.
The weather's so perfect You know, in the evenings and fire pit and sweatshirts, marshmallows, oh my goodness.
Yeah.
And yeah, all kinds of, you know, other things, you know, beverages and whatnot.
Right.
So, you know, it's, uh, it's just a wonderful time.
So anyway, we're sitting out here, the sun's coming out, but we wanted to update our listeners about a number of things regarding the podcast.
And uh, so we thought we would maybe kind of have a little conversation about that and bring them.
And the first thing we want to say is thank you for listening.
You know, this has been a really interesting journey.
So we, we launched this podcast about a year and a half ago.
And by the time this airs, we're nearing 150 episodes.
We're in the one thirties or one thirty five, which means that we're going to have to start planning our sequescentennial episode.
Oh, we got to think of something special for the sequescentennial.
We need, we need, we need merch for that.
We need to need merch.
And that's one of the things that has been suggested in, and for you dear listeners is maybe we might.
You know, have like a, you know, some merch, like, you know, coffee mugs or, or I don't know, hoodies that you could wear at the fire pit with us for considering Catholicism.
So we, we're just really grateful because the cool thing is that, uh, we started this thing about a year and a half ago, you know, 20 months or something, but it was, uh, January of 2022.
And like, I think the first month we had like 10, 10 downloads.
Yeah.
Or something like that.
You know, I was like, Oh, wow.
You know? Yeah.
And then I was like, maybe we'd break like 50.
But the, the funny thing is I was just showing Ed the little download curve and every month for 20 months, it's gone up like on this growth curve, like 10 or 20% a month, like compounding interest.
Right.
And we're nearing the point now, dear listeners, where, I mean, I know it's still small, like compared to like.
Joe Rogan or Bishop Barron, you know, we're just like insignificant little, you know, small fry sitting here in the forest, but we're now nearing, you know, five, six, maybe approaching soon 10, 000 downloads a month, which, you know, again, when we started, there were like 10, so it just feels huge.
It does.
And they're from all over.
So we look at our download distribution and they come from all over the United States, like every state and a lot of international.
So we get a lot of downloads from, well, of course, Canada, which is just sort of like America's hat, right? I've never heard that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, I love that one.
It's like, and it's just right up here, like, like from where we sit here in the forest with the Sasquatch.
Uh, if you just drive that way past the gas station where you get the gas station pizza, just keep going right and you'll get to America's hat, but, uh, but I love our Canadian listeners, but also we've got a lot of listeners in Europe has been surprising, uh, a lot of European listeners and the other thing that's been, you know, interesting lately is we've got Bye.
Listeners from some countries I'm not going to name, but I think there are countries where we have U.
S.
military bases and, uh, in strange places around the world where we're seeing like 100 downloads or something or 200 downloads and, you know, in a month or something, and I'm starting to think that maybe, you know, maybe we have some service members that are listening and which would be wonderful.
And if you are, um, we'll keep your location secret, but we're really, really grateful in all seriousness for, uh, You're devotional listening this podcast.
And then the other thing is the emails that we get I am a terrible, I am a horrible, bad, awful person.
I'm literally a bad person because I don't get back to people with emails as quickly as I should.
And it's one of the things that I, I really like a character flaw where I have to reply.
I'm buried in a lot of stuff because this is not my job.
I have other jobs and I'll get into that in a moment because we're going to talk about something that's an opportunity for your listeners.
But, uh, I just, I'm buried.
Send me those emails, some of them, and I'll write back and make up reasons why you can't reply.
Why I can't reply.
Cause I just, I get a lot of emails which I'm super grateful for, but I'm usually just absolutely buried in my work, cause when I'm not sitting in the forest here, I'm, I'm doing a lot of stuff.
But we're really grateful and we're gonna get better.
I promise to get better about it and maybe Ed, you can help with some of the emails too.
But we're really grateful for The stories that you share with us and they're really touching and stories about how this podcast has really affected people and impacted their lives.
And, um, uh, so, yeah, we're grateful for your listening.
And then the last thing is your support.
So look, we, we are not financially supported.
This podcast or this ministry is not financially supported by.
By any organization, we don't have a church or a parish or an, uh, agency that supports us.
It's a 100% listener supported.
So, you know, we do have a link that you can contribute.
And, uh, as we'll get into a little bit here today, uh, there's a lot of things that we would like to do, um, where we feel like this ministry is growing and growing and growing and more and more people are downloading and more and more people are writing and saying this is making a real big difference in their lives and the lives of their friends.
And we would like to kind of put more effort into it, but you know, we're listener supported.
So if you would, you know, consider, um, supporting.
Uh, the podcast, the more that you support it, the kind of more we can do.
You have run some ideas past me.
I won't say any of them, but you have from time to time said, Oh, I have an idea.
We could do this.
And without fail, I think, Oh man, that would be so cool.
I think there's a lot of ways that this ministry can grow.
And in all fairness, you know, I love if you've ever like, uh, listened to or clicked through anything from Bishop Barron and I love Bishop Barron, then you're going to get about like six emails a day.
from, uh, Bishop Barron, and we're on fire asking you to support their ministry and they do great work.
Uh, but we, uh, we are literally a shoestring operation running on like, you know, pennies.
So we would like to devote more time and effort and resources to expand this ministry.
And so anyway, enough of that.
I don't want to talk about that.
I want to talk about an offer.
And I, boy, as soon as you say that, hey, I have a proposition for you, like it's going to cost you, no, this is 100% not going to cost you anything and it's not a scam.
So one of the other things that I do, well, yeah, one of the other things that I do, uh, in my work, uh, my day jobs.
Is, I'm the Dean of the Lakeshore Academy for the New Evangelization, and what it is is an online learning platform for, uh, children, adults, and families, uh, that teaches the Catholic faith.
And we've been around for about five years, and we have courses, uh, online courses all about the Catholic faith.
And we traditionally, up until now, the Lakeshore Academy of Therapeutic we call it, has been, there was like a little subscription fee.
Like, people had to pay 20 bucks a month or something.
And that was to offset the operational costs.
I mean, it was like the hosting and the softwares and all the different stuff.
And it's supported by our parish.
Uh, Our Lady of the Lake, well, we have decided to make that the Lane Catholic Adults program available for free to anybody, including you listeners, which means all you have to do is go to a lanecatholic.
org and basically sign up with your email and you get access to the courses.
And what I wanted to do is talk about a course that I'm going to start teaching this fall It's an eight week course and you can log in live and participate.
You can watch me teach the course on video in a webinar format, uh, but when then we also archive it.
So if you don't log in while it's live, you can, you know, log in afterward and, and download it or watch it that way.
And um, so I want to talk about that course and then the fact that we have, I have dozens of other courses that I've taught that are archived.
Hundreds of hours of courses about Catholicism, Catholic history, Catholic literature.
So if you enjoy the things that we talk about here, and if you enjoy hearing me talk about these things, well, guess what? I've got a lot of stuff that you can now have access to.
This was my introduction to actually stepping foot in the Catholic church was your, uh, two Two falls ago in the fall of 21, you did, you started a 12 week course about Dante's divine comedy, and I was there for almost all of them watched the ones I missed on later on on the website, but that was they were wonderful.
And if you and I have listened to Greg preach for years now, and I...
Gosh, you've been listening to me drone on for like 20 years or something.
I have.
I have.
Um, I never get tired of it.
I, I've never...
Listen...
When did we start, like, we started working together in that one, like, the hipster coffee house church where I used to teach, like, back in the early 2000s? I think, yeah, I think, I think 2006, 2007, something like almost 20 years that you've been hearing me drone on about stuff.
Right.
And I still, I still reference things you said in sermons.
I went and looked for them online.
They're no longer there.
I wish they were.
So I downloaded some of them.
Anyway, a lot of that stuff has stuck with me.
Anyway, uh, without me interrupting Greg, he, he's even better.
Um, so I've, I've, I would encourage you to go check it out.
The, uh, that Dante thing was fantastic.
The thing about, uh, the life of Mary.
Was, uh, Mary After Jesus, that was great.
Yeah, I mean, the Dante course was cool, so, so we've got, I think, in the last five years, I think I have, I think it's close to two dozen courses that I've taught, and those are archived.
In video format, so you can, and, and each course is like anywhere from four to 12 weeks long.
Right.
And it's everything from church history, doctrine, literature, I mean, that was the Dante course.
We did a whole, like Ed said, a whole 12 week exploration of the Catholic vision of the world and Catholic theology through that, you know, so many things that we've talked about.
Um, well.
Anyway, I've got a class coming up this fall, and it starts on September 11, so it runs for, uh, it's eight Monday nights.
There's a break in the middle, like there's four, and then we got a, like, two week break, and then four more.
But it's, it's on Monday nights, and it starts at, I guess it's 7 o'clock Eastern time, wherever you are.
If you want to be alive and the way it works is you sign up for the lane program, which is all it requires is your email and there's a checkbox that you came from the considering Catholicism podcast that's only just so we can kind of track where people are coming from and then what it is is you'll get like an invite each week to a zoom webinar and then you'll hear me or see me You know, droning on and you could always, you could always show up live and if I'm there attending the class, uh, you know, I'll like, I'll, I'll put the little cake up in the Keurig thing for you.
Yeah, there you go.
And you can see what had the Protestant looks like.
And then, uh, but if, but then those courses are then archived.
So like if you're not there live on Monday night and, and you also, when you're doing that in the webinar format, you can type in a question and then I'll answer it live.
So if you want to take place in that live course, you can do that.
Or, you know, you have access to, to those classes afterwards and then the whole archive of, of, I think, literally, like, I don't, like, I was, I gotta be out, like, a hundred or two hundred, you know, different hours of, of classes that I've taught.
So I'm gonna tell you about this course that's coming up, because I'm kind of psyched about it.
It's called the eldest daughter of the church.
What's the course about? Well, uh, the eldest daughter of the church is an old description for the country of France.
France.
Uh, some of you are old enough to know, like, remember the Coneheads? France.
Right.
Uh, we come from France.
But France is, uh, is what is often called the eldest daughter of the church because when you go back to the time of the apostles, shortly after the apostles, right, it was a Roman, uh, it was Gaul.
And, and Roman Gaul, G A U L, um, which we now call France, but it was a huge Roman colony or province.
And so, the first Christians from the time of the apostles spread into Roman Gaul.
And so, from the beginning, like, if Italy, you know, because where Rome was, was kind of, you know, that the eldest daughter of the church was always France, it was dedicated to.
You know, our lady, uh, a lot of people don't know this.
I'll mention in the class that, right.
And when you look at France, the sort of logo or symbol of France traditionally is the fleur de lis.
You ever seen that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what the fleur de lis is? The stylized lily, like L I L L Y, like the flower.
Because in medieval times, or even before that, ancient times, the lily became a symbol for the Virgin Mary, like just a, like a visual, you know, like, you know, the symbology.
And so the lily, the fleur de lis, the stylized fleur de lis, which is a stylized lily, is indicative that France was dedicated to the Blessed Virgin Mary, right? Our Lady.
And it became the eldest daughter of the church because so much of church history is tied up with the history of France.
So what I'm going to do in this course, the eldest daughter of the church, is I'm going to walk through Catholic history.
Sort of the arc of Catholicism seen through key incidents in church history in France.
Like the first week we're gonna talk about the, the church in the, the second century, which is the one hundreds, right? You always, you know mm-hmm.
So in the mid one hundreds, you had one of the great.
Fathers of the church, you know, church, the church fathers, patristic teachers, uh, St.
Irenaeus.
Huge, huge influence in the early church.
Great father of the church.
And Irenaeus was in the city that we call now Lyon.
Uh, Le Gugnum was the name of the Roman city.
And so, one of the great early patristic fathers of the church, who wrote Against Heresies of his day, in fact his most famous book is called Against Heresies, was in Lyon, France, but only a few years after him, and we'll talk about this in the first night of the class, what you had was, uh, the emperor Marcus Aurelius.
And if you saw the movie gladiator, Marcus Aurelius was like the emperor and gladiator, you know, who, okay.
Before like the crazy, his crazy son, but Marcus Aurelius.
There was a persecution under Marcus Aurelius in I think 177, and it broke out in Lyon, France, and it's really interesting because of the martyrs of Lyon, some of the early, most famous acts of martyrdom where the Romans threw people into the arena to die, took place in the arena.
I kind of like the, you know, the Colosseum in Lyon, France, and when somebody says, we're going to talk about the early years of the France and like, we're going to go on, we're going to talk in different nights, uh, different, you know, uh, sessions of the class.
We're going to talk about the Middle Ages.
So we're going to explore the art and architecture of the Middle Ages, the great Gothic cathedrals, Notre Dame, Saint Denis, Chartres, the great, you know, triumph of Gothic architecture and medieval art, the way of beauty.
We're going to talk about the great intellectual achievements of the Middle Ages in France.
So you have the University of Paris.
St.
Thomas Aquinas, and, uh, the Dominicans, and, uh, these great, great intellectual movements of the great high Middle Ages in France, places like Paris.
And then we're going to talk about the monastic systems, like the great abbeys of Clunet and Clairvaux, and the great monastic movements of the Middle Ages.
And then we're going to talk about some exciting things, like Joan of Arc, we're going to have a whole class session.
Uh in joan of arc because she's this wonderful, you know, joan of arc is the patron saint of courage And just an amazing story About a Catholic heroine really who in a lot of ways is compared to one of the Old Testament judges like Deborah or something Fantastic story about Joan of Arc and that'll be one of the sessions and then we're gonna talk about the revolutions that occurred in France So you had you know, the French Revolution you had prior to that the Protestant Reformation, which was kind of a revolution and the saints, French saints that, that countered those things.
So we're going to talk about St.
Francis de Sales, who countered the Calvinist revolution in Geneva, but just over the border in France and on sea, we're going to talk about St.
Jean Vianney, who occurred to ours, who was a, uh, was a pastor in central France a generation after the French revolution and all the terrible things that happened there.
And, you know, he was this like small town, little country priest.
And he just started sitting in the confessional every day, and tens of thousands of people came from all around France to go to confession because he was so gifted in the confessional at healing people's consciences.
And, you know, after all the terrible things that happened in the French Revolution, so many people traveled from all around the country.
To have the Kurdars, you know, heal their soul.
Wow.
And then we're going to talk about lords.
So in the early 19th century, you had St.
Bernadette, a young girl who is out essentially in the city garbage dump one day.
And the Blessed Virgin Mary appears to her and says, pray the rosary, appear here and build for me a chapel here for all the processions And to this day, the Basilica and Lourdes, something like 10 million people a year.
Wow.
Come to that.
And then we're going to talk about one of the greatest of all French saints, Saint Therese of Lisieux, the Little Flower.
So basically, what we're going to see is sort of the arc of church history over 2, 000 years.
Play out through the lens of, of France and the people and the places and the saints of, of France.
I gotta come to this thing.
Yeah, it's gonna be a great class called The Eldest Daughter of the Church.
So here's how you sign up for it.
It's totally free, costs you nothing.
There's no strings.
This isn't like a multi level marketing thing that, hey, we're gonna offer you this and then you have to do something.
It's just like, like, this is just...
You know, part of our mission, part of our ministry is to reach as many people of the Catholic faith as we can.
So all you have to do is go to our website, and that is lane, that website for that ministry, lanecatholic.
org, L A N E catholic.
org.
And when you get there, you can sign up for a membership, cost you nothing.
All you're going to do is give your email, but check the box in the signup that says, Uh, I came through the considering Catholicism podcast just because we're trying to track how people find us.
And then what you'll do is you'll get, uh, a password or whatever and you can log into this learning platform and you'll see all of the courses for the last five years organized.
You can go back through and watch them, listen to them, download them.
Uh, and you'll get the invitation for the current courses.
So for like this class, I'm going to start teaching on September 11.
You'll get a link from them and I'll give you a webinar link and you can log in and I would really love to have you join me for this course because I think it's going to be really great and like, you know, like I had said, you've, you've, you've enjoyed the classes yourself.
Yeah, it's, it's a cool thing.
It's a really cool thing.
Yeah.
So we want to extend that to you.
And, uh, and then a couple other things, just things that we're going to try to do here.
One of the things is we've started to get to 130, 140, nearing our sequicentennial of 550 episodes.
Is that I get emails from people and they'll say, Hey, I got a question about this or that, or can you talk about this? And I go, well, we actually did, but it's been so many episodes now.
You know, there's an archive of material because our episodes average, you know, 45 minutes or so.
So, like, there's like 120 hours of content here.
So, it's a little bit of a work and like I said, we have no time for this and no resources to do this.
Right.
But one of the things we're going to try to do is, uh, organize the archive and have an index.
So, what you'll find, um, we've just done that and taken it live.
So, by the time this episode airs, it'll be done.
Right.
And if you go to our website, ConsideringCatholicism.
com There'll be a link there at the top that says index.
And it's basically going to have an index of all of the episodes and a little descriptions of them with some key words.
So if you're like, hey, I want to learn more about the Eucharist, or I want to learn more about church history, I want to look at book clubs, or I want to look at, uh, I want to learn more about baptism, or I don't know, whatever, how to, you know, Protestant Bibles versus Catholic Bibles.
You can go there.
And you can go back and scroll through those.
And then what else were we going to do, Ed? I think there were some other things we were going to try to do that were cool.
Oh, gosh.
What was it? Um, oh, well.
We have somebody who wants swag.
Oh, uh, uh, emails.
Answering questions.
Yeah, oh yeah, how do I forget this? This is like a big thing.
Oh my gosh.
I totally, I'm on to the hoodies and stuff and I haven't even gotten to the important part.
So, so one of the things we're going to do is we're going to have a special episode every month.
Uh, Q and a episode.
So again, I am the worst person in the world.
I'm a really bad man because I don't get back to people because what happens is people will write me an email and they'll ask questions like I have this question about the Catholic faith, this question about the Catholic faith, or I'm struggling with this, or, you know, my fiance is sending this, or, you know, I have a brother in law that says this.
And my problem is, is that I sit there and I look at that and I go, Oh my gosh, I really want to be, I want to give them a good answer and then I sit and I write like this 3, 000 word exhausted email like this, this like, you know, article, this treatise, this book chapter.
Instead of shoveling the driveway.
Well, yeah, and, and then, well, then I delay because I go, man, this person deserves a 3, 000 word answer.
And then I never get it done.
So what we're going to do is if you will write in your questions, at least once a month, we'll have a special question episode.
Or, and we're going to say, Hey, you know, we'll hide your name or whatever, but you know, we'll call him Dave from somewhere in the Pacific Northwest.
Let's call everybody Dave.
Yeah, right.
Asks, what about this? Or he has a, he wants to know how to explain this to his.
Idiot brother in law, right? And so I'll go like, oh, okay, and then um, you know add or record You're like read the questions and I'll answer them to the best of my ability So we want to invite you to be take part of that Send your questions to to considering catholicism at gmail.
com or greg at considering catholicism.
com Either one will get to me.
We're going to organize those and at least once a month once a month We'll have a special q a episode And, um, we actually had this idea, I don't know if it would work, to maybe occasionally go live and have people, you know, do like a, you can do like a live thing on Twitter Spaces or YouTube or whatever, but I don't know, there are people, like, I look at the distribution of our downloads and they're so spread out around the country and Europe and everything, like, I don't know what time zone people are in, like, if I said we're gonna do it at 7 o'clock Eastern time, like, half the people in Europe are, It's the middle of the night.
Yeah, but then we'd have to shave, wouldn't we? Well, I know, and I don't, you know, I don't know.
People don't know what we look like.
That's the other thing is if you, if you sign up for this Lane class, you're going to find out what I look like.
And, and that, that terrifies me because I, I don't like how I look on camera, but anyway, uh, you know, where it's nice, can we just hide here in the woods? I'm used to it now.
Yeah.
You know, we just kind of hide here in the woods and all that, but, uh, and you don't get to see our faces.
I, you know, you got a face made for, for radio or broadcasting, but whatever.
Uh, you know.
Uh, look, uh, we really want to do this.
This is a ministry and we're really trying to serve you.
We're really trying to, um, serve, uh, the church.
We're really trying to serve the kingdom.
You know, our, our, our, our mission is to, to educate, equip, and, you know, excite, educate, and equip people to live, share, and defend.
The historic Catholic faith and again, we have zero resources and we would like to do more.
But in the short term, this is what we can do.
So I want to invite you to take part in the class, sign up for a lane membership and, and take part in this eldest daughter of the church class and the archive of other courses.
And then I'll be teaching another course in the spring.
So you have that.
And then the Q and a episodes and um, I don't know, maybe we'll do.
You know, swag or merch or something.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Will people really do that? I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But anyway...
We need the tour jackets.
That's what we need.
What we need to do is, is we need to have one of these things, like these tiers.
Like, if you will donate so much...
To right considering Catholicism that, uh, so we can, you know, scale up here that then we would like, uh, you'll get an autographed copy of one of Ed's guitar picks or, um, you know, you know, I should do because because people I have people who say they like my voice.
I had somebody for another podcast that I host.
Uh, uh, say, uh, I would like to have you read bedtime stories because I can do this with Mike.
I can do, I can do like the NPR voice, but you know what I'm saying is I could do, I could do your, um, your, uh, voicemail.
That's what I'm saying is like the, the first tier is the voicemail.
The voicemail.
Like if you, if you contribute so much, then Greg will think, hi, you've reached Susie.
And she's not available right now because she's considering Catholicism.
Oh, I like that.
When she's done, she'll get back to you.
So leave your number.
Right.
You know, I could record stuff like that.
And then, you know, if people gave enough, we could give them directions to the secret compound and they could come out here and sit with us and do a bonfire.
And talk about Catholicism.
We could have a little, like, a Greek chorus, you know? Yeah, well, you know, we could sit around here and, you know, gotta be chill and, like, talk about Catholicism while we sit by the bonfire in the forest and look for Sasquatch.
So, there's all kinds of possibilities out there, but, like, take away, big one, lanecatholic.
org.
Sign up for the Eldest Daughter of the Church course and all the other courses on archive and coming.
Uh, write in your questions for the Q& A.
And we'll do those and we promise to get better about responding to your emails and at least please consider donating through the link that's in the description.
I think that's it.
Yeah, thanks.
All right.
Well, talk soon, Ned.
Bye.
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