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Rushion Interviews Warryn Campbell is a music visionary, executive and leading producer of R&B, gospel and hip-hop music! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to my show, Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: ra Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different
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  Speaker 1: definitions of success. For you and may be the size
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  Speaker 1: of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to develop a
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  Speaker 1: plan to reach their dreams. It's time to stop reading
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  Speaker 1: other people's success stories and start writing your own. You
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  Speaker 1: can only exceed expectations by believing in yourself. People always
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  Speaker 1: talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift,
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  Speaker 1: lead with your gift and don't let your friends, family,
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  Speaker 1: or coreworkers stop you from planning or living your dream.
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  Speaker 1: My guest is Warren Campbell. He's a music visionary, executive
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  Speaker 1: and leading producer of R and B, gospel and hip
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  Speaker 1: hop music. Campbell's ability to create chart topping hits across
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  Speaker 1: a multitude of genres has made him critically acclaim as
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  Speaker 1: one of the most prolific record producers of our time.
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  Speaker 1: He's on the show to discuss this company, Block Inc.
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  Speaker 1: And independent record label founded by the Grammy Award winning
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  Speaker 1: producer being featured or TV one unsongd. The hit Maker's
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  Speaker 1: episode one is dropping the Clothes with a line called
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  Speaker 1: Ernest Paul balancing his tenure as the pastor of California
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  Speaker 1: Worship Center in North Hollywood, being a proud father daughter
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  Speaker 1: going to Spellman he has he has three kids total,
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  Speaker 1: and being marrid to every Campbell for over twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about. Please welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Money Haggan conversation about the class, the one and only
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  Speaker 1: Warren Campbell. How are you doing, sir? Did I get
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  Speaker 1: it all in? Did I get that? You brought me out? Man?
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  Speaker 1: That was crazy? I told you, I tell you for
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  Speaker 1: you gotta last day. We got a lot to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: man Man, But it's all good for First of the first,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you over, get you with your daughter
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  Speaker 1: and Spellman, because I've been showing video at the video
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  Speaker 1: and joe Lee, her daughter, it rolled the spellment. She
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  Speaker 1: down there during the electric slide. Now were you Where
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  Speaker 1: were you at? Where were you at, Warren down the
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  Speaker 1: electric slide? Where were you at? I was watching? I
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  Speaker 1: love it, Man, I love it, brother. Talk about your
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  Speaker 1: daughter man Din in Atlanta and rolling in a prestigious
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  Speaker 1: hbc uth school and what it means to First of all,
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  Speaker 1: I got a daughter, so I know this, that separation,
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  Speaker 1: fear worried constantly, the letting go and trust in life.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that for a minute there, sir. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is the first person that made me
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  Speaker 1: a father. That's my my, my big girl, my oldest
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  Speaker 1: and we're very close. And so instead of just sending
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  Speaker 1: her down there, I drove, man, I drove from Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles all the way to Georgia. Awesome, I said. They
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  Speaker 1: started out with just me and her because I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, before I let her go, I want
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  Speaker 1: some father daughter time. I want a week to live really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, talk to her for real, the real on
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  Speaker 1: these boys next door over at her at clark in Morehouse.
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  Speaker 1: But some her along the way. My wife jumped and said,
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  Speaker 1: you ain't going bout yourself. I'm coming to And then
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  Speaker 1: my my other two kids wanted to come. So we
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  Speaker 1: took a family road trip. Man. It was beautiful bonding
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  Speaker 1: at last. We were on the road for a week.
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  Speaker 1: Uh and you know, and we had to we had
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  Speaker 1: to let her go. We had to let it go.
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  Speaker 1: And she's seventeen years old. Man, was just it was
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  Speaker 1: emotional because he's not been away from me for more
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  Speaker 1: than two weeks before ever, you know, going to camp things,
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  Speaker 1: and uh so I had to rely on uh the
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  Speaker 1: training that I that I instilled in her. You know, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: if you train up a child in the way that
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  Speaker 1: she or he or she should go when they oh
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  Speaker 1: they want to part, don't mean they want to part
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  Speaker 1: at all. It just means that when they get old
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  Speaker 1: and they start grappling and wrestling with life, they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: revert back to the teaching that they learned. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: just trusting that I'm trusting that we uh were deposited
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  Speaker 1: enough in her, uh that she can use when she's
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  Speaker 1: you know, face with tough life choices and that we're
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  Speaker 1: not there for and you know, and and and the
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  Speaker 1: thing is, I feel good because she called me yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I was waiting. She hadn't called me. Man, it's been
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  Speaker 1: like it's almost a week, right right, right, right, right right.
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  Speaker 1: Finally she finally called me yesterday. That's my daughter. I said,
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  Speaker 1: come on night. You don't don't forget now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And just watching them grow up because if
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  Speaker 1: you know, because you have the media out there, you
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  Speaker 1: see the news, you see the violence, you see the
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  Speaker 1: the unexpected. You know, you see the victim of being
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  Speaker 1: a people of color. All these different things come into
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  Speaker 1: play because of the fact that you know, you protected
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  Speaker 1: this young child through elementaries through you know, first we
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  Speaker 1: all let's go back to the birth. It's a miracle
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  Speaker 1: to have a healthy child. Everybody should know that. That's
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  Speaker 1: a blessing. And then to let them go out there
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  Speaker 1: into a world this many miles from you, that's a
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  Speaker 1: courageous move on your part. One. I'm gonna just tell
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  Speaker 1: you right now, brother, that's courageous. Now. It was it was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was a god thing. Man. She um,
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to get into a certain school and she
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  Speaker 1: didn't get into that school, and and I felt I
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  Speaker 1: felt like as a as a father, I thought a
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  Speaker 1: failure because I said, you know what, I should have
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  Speaker 1: had her apply to more schools. But because we're all
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  Speaker 1: in my family were all very creative thinkers. We're not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily a family full of you know, um educated you
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  Speaker 1: know uh people. In terms of nobody went to college.
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  Speaker 1: I started doing this what I do now since I
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  Speaker 1: started at thirteen years old, so I wasn't even thinking
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  Speaker 1: about college. By the time I graduated high school, I
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  Speaker 1: was already making a lot of money in the music business.
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  Speaker 1: So um, I thought, my daughter, she's a very creative person,
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  Speaker 1: amazing singer, songwriter, performer, and I just thought, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: she don't have to go to college. She's gonna you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna go her home path. And then a lady
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  Speaker 1: came and uh knocking saying listen. She was an alumni
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  Speaker 1: from UM from Spellman the name of Dr Mary Gaffney.
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  Speaker 1: I would never forget Dr Mary Gaffney. She called us
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  Speaker 1: and said I have been mandated to get Christal Campbell
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  Speaker 1: into Spellman, and a lady we never met before, she said,
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  Speaker 1: I need you to bring Cristal fly down to Spellman
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  Speaker 1: on this day and when she leaves, she would have
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  Speaker 1: an acceptance letter. We went down there, Christo towards the
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  Speaker 1: campus and and I've never seen her excited about school
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  Speaker 1: like that. She said, Dad, I want to go here.
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  Speaker 1: Camp said okay, And so we waited and they sent
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  Speaker 1: her a letter and said she was accepted. And it's
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  Speaker 1: like God open that door. I had nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: with us, and I said, now we we we received
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  Speaker 1: grace for that because I felt like, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: we didn't get her there, but God helped us. So
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  Speaker 1: for these last two kids, we ain't gonna do that
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  Speaker 1: this time. I'm gonna make sure that we do everything
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  Speaker 1: that we need to do to make sure they get
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  Speaker 1: to where they need to go. We'll be right back
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  Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now
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  Speaker 1: let's return to Money Make in Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, you've been a guy like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it's you've been in the music business. And when I
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  Speaker 1: throw out the word R and B gospel, I thought
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  Speaker 1: hip hop, all of them are really have their own
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  Speaker 1: dominant force. They dominant sound, they dominant role. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can say that, you know that hip hop kind
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  Speaker 1: of pulls from R and B, but that gospel genre,
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  Speaker 1: you know, feeds to the R and B, the secular
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  Speaker 1: sound and all that. How do you, in your mind
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  Speaker 1: worring disseminate the difference. Is it's the lyrics or it's
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  Speaker 1: the beat. For me, it's the lyrics gospel. My definition
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  Speaker 1: is the good news, right it is the news comes
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  Speaker 1: in form of words, not sounds a melody. So, uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was at the inception of gospel music. Sound that's
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  Speaker 1: only because that was the sound of that time. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it was meant to carry on forever or
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  Speaker 1: not evolved. Um. And there's there's traces of all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of things, uh in gospel music. Now why because gospel
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  Speaker 1: is the ancestor for all music. Everything starts there, right,
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  Speaker 1: and so out of the cotton fields, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: we created this sound and jazz springs from it. So
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  Speaker 1: that's blue, so that's rock, and now hip hop is
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  Speaker 1: just the gumbo that stirs it all together. We you know,
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  Speaker 1: just like when we were given the scraps to eat
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  Speaker 1: as slaves, you know, we took that and made you know,
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  Speaker 1: so Fu, which is now the most one of those
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  Speaker 1: popular cauzines in the world. It's ain now hipop most
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  Speaker 1: dominant genre in the world. And what we did, what
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  Speaker 1: we did this, just like Sofa, we took the scraps,
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  Speaker 1: a little piece of this record, a little piece of that,
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  Speaker 1: and we turned it into other things that we created.
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  Speaker 1: Hip hop kind of the same thing. And that's because
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  Speaker 1: really you were you were born through hip hop. I
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  Speaker 1: went up to say, yeah, you know through hip hop now,
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  Speaker 1: and I read I bring that up because the fact
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  Speaker 1: that you're your pastor now and you're not saying that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hip hop can't be a passion of hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: But these there's so many different styles of hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: Did you did you walk into? There's languages that you
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  Speaker 1: walk into. What defines you as a person? I want
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  Speaker 1: to say, Warren. Uh. You know, people will say you're
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  Speaker 1: a Christian, but that's that's ah. You know, that's the
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  Speaker 1: word I seldom use because more than anything, I'm a believer, right,
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  Speaker 1: because you gotta think of it. Was Jesus a Christian?
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  Speaker 1: He was Jesus right, right, But I believe in Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a believer in in the Word of God, and
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  Speaker 1: I followed that. I lived my life by that right.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, if you do that, that means you gotta
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  Speaker 1: read that and understand what it is. Most people just
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  Speaker 1: joined churches and follow some God that don't really know
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  Speaker 1: the Bible, and so they have all these rules and
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  Speaker 1: things they live by. I grew up in the house
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  Speaker 1: when my father was my pastor. But he's also my father,
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  Speaker 1: and he was a very learned guy. You know, he
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  Speaker 1: was educated. Let me know. Early when I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to impress my father by saying, Dad, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm never gonna do any second in music, he said,
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  Speaker 1: sit down from it. Let me talk to you. You said,
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  Speaker 1: I was fifteen years old. He said, I said, you
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  Speaker 1: started making money at this. He said, music is your passion.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what. Music is your your job. Music is your career. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Music is your occupation. So now what you have now
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  Speaker 1: is uh across worlds. Right. You got your occupation and
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  Speaker 1: you got your salvation. Now you have to have you
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  Speaker 1: have to walk a bounce because you cannot let your
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  Speaker 1: occupation walk all over your salvation. You gotta have a standard.
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  Speaker 1: And so my father sent me out while other church
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  Speaker 1: members were saying he shouldn't be doing second in music
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  Speaker 1: because the church is very unfair to musicians. You can
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  Speaker 1: only do gospel music. If you don't you do anything
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  Speaker 1: other than gospel music, and they're going to hell. We don't,
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  Speaker 1: we don't say to the to the Christian uh, doctors,
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  Speaker 1: you better only work on you know, Christian patients of
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  Speaker 1: if you're you only work on Christian teeth. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. My dad, My dad was like, no, man,
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  Speaker 1: go out there and do the music you love. Just
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  Speaker 1: have a standard, right. I love that. I love that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I knew that the roadblocks and the and the
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  Speaker 1: nay sayers because that's why I was talking about gifts.
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  Speaker 1: You know, don't let your French family, uh, your coworkers
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  Speaker 1: stop you from planning to living your dreams because so
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  Speaker 1: many people will interfere and trying to tell you and
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  Speaker 1: try to will their their values on you. And that's
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  Speaker 1: important to be able to And so your father played
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  Speaker 1: a major role in keeping you folks really and it's
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  Speaker 1: really their fears, you know what I'm saying. Like my
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  Speaker 1: mother was was was she was a big supporter when
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  Speaker 1: it came time to me going to college or going
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  Speaker 1: on the road, and had three choices of the schools.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna go to their big music school's birthday,
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  Speaker 1: School of Music, University, and cal Arts here in California.
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  Speaker 1: My dad said, well, listen, you have this opportunity. There
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  Speaker 1: was a tour going out nur January and and I
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  Speaker 1: just graduated high school and ninety three. They got this
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  Speaker 1: opportunity and to play on the road with Brandy and
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  Speaker 1: we're going out with boys, two men and baby Face.
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  Speaker 1: And because let's let's slow that down now, Brandy when
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  Speaker 1: Brandy was straight fire okay, two men, straight fire okay,
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  Speaker 1: and baby Face wrote Everybody's song Okay, everybody's song. You
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  Speaker 1: just graduated my high school going out with them folks
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  Speaker 1: and everybody every city we went to, every black person
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  Speaker 1: in the town was at that show. Right, we were
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  Speaker 1: big arenas. And um My father sent me down and said, listen,
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  Speaker 1: you you go to school to learn or you know
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  Speaker 1: they can teach you what you're getting medy to go
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  Speaker 1: out and get paid to do, right, he said, He said,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. I think you should do it.
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  Speaker 1: School is gonna be here, this opportunity may not be right.
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  Speaker 1: So my mother, because of her fear, was like no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no no, but she was it's not gonna work. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta get education. But that was just It's not that
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  Speaker 1: she didn't love me, that was just her fear. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And so you can't other people's fear, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: can't live I couldn't live my life through her fear
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  Speaker 1: and other people around me that I was thinking, probably
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a mistake. You got all
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  Speaker 1: these schools you can go to. So I jumped out
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  Speaker 1: there and never looked back, man, And I met so
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  Speaker 1: many people, and it was the catalyst for what I
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  Speaker 1: do now. Man, And a lot of those relationships I
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  Speaker 1: still hold today absolutely. You know the beauty of this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and I'd like to say conversation I'm having with you, Warren,
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  Speaker 1: you can Warren a true hit maker. He's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: featured on their Unsung series an episode called hit Makers.
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  Speaker 1: When you when you were being recognized and you you
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  Speaker 1: got Grammys, you got the wards, and you old, and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you don't appreciate I know that. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: really crazy when you get Sometimes you get an award,
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  Speaker 1: you you humbly take it, but you don't realize how
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  Speaker 1: unique that award is. Because I know on this show,
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  Speaker 1: because I get a lot of people used nominated. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I nominated for an Oscar, nominated for a Grammy. So
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  Speaker 1: doing this show, I've learned to appreciate my love Emmies. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: because I got it so so because so many people
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  Speaker 1: don't have it, but they're using credits to say they
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  Speaker 1: were at least recognize nominated. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: So talk about that. I realized, Man, it never gets old.
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  Speaker 1: I was with because you have to make a conscious decision,
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  Speaker 1: uh and be intentional about appreciating those things. I was
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  Speaker 1: one time I was with a well known producer gonna
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  Speaker 1: say his name is Grammys and I was in the
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  Speaker 1: studio with him, and at this time, I had two
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  Speaker 1: Grammys and I was in the studio visiting this guy
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  Speaker 1: and we were watching TV. We're watching the Grammys on TV,
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  Speaker 1: and he won Producer of the Year. While I were
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  Speaker 1: sitting there watching it and his sponsors like this, I said, Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going nuts. Oh my god, he's sitting there like this,
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  Speaker 1: going oh. Man. I said to myself, I ain't never
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  Speaker 1: gonna be like them now. I appreciate every award I've won.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you have your Granny statues and you have
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  Speaker 1: your Grammy plaques. Between all of those put together, I
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  Speaker 1: might have about seventeen of those things, man, But in
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  Speaker 1: terms of statues, I have five or six statues, Grammy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, awards, and it's never I just won last
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  Speaker 1: year this past Grammys for Best Rap Song with a
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  Speaker 1: Kanye feature in um Jay z uh And it was
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  Speaker 1: just the best feeling in That's like I said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really get it until I started doing my
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  Speaker 1: show and I just kept seeing people say nominated, nominated, nominated,
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  Speaker 1: that went wow, mom. People trying to make it Neligan's
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  Speaker 1: didn't make it, but I was one of the ones
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  Speaker 1: who did. We'll be right back with more money Making
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  Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to money
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  Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You know TV one
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  Speaker 1: on song and when he reached out to you and
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  Speaker 1: talked about wanting to recognize you and tell a part
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  Speaker 1: of your story because you're really a documentary you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's another conversation you know years old. You know you
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  Speaker 1: messed with the draw person Waring. I'm I'll be knocking
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  Speaker 1: on your dote like that lady from the Spell. But
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  Speaker 1: excuse Mr Camp, I'm not here to see you, Eric.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here to see big Dog Hire. Who want to
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  Speaker 1: do a documentary on him? Tell his story? Do a movie?
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  Speaker 1: You know they could do Marvin's sapp movie. They Dodge,
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  Speaker 1: you can do the War one of these days to
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  Speaker 1: love it? So only hit maker? What the what did
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  Speaker 1: you want to say? Why did you actually do that
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  Speaker 1: that particular episode one, because you know, I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was a huge opportunity the first The first thing I
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  Speaker 1: did was I was a little trepidacious because when you're
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  Speaker 1: thinking about the show unsung Uh. You think about guys
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  Speaker 1: that who are you know, older and who at the
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  Speaker 1: end of their career and they're doing son to talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, wait a minute, I'm I'm writing
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of list thing. I ain't. I ain't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, you know. And and for that reason
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I have not let a lot of my artists do it,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, no, we're still in our prime. But
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: all they said, no, this is unsung presents the hitmakers.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: It's not just you know, it's not that. So I said, okay,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: let's let's let's do it. And man, it was. It
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: was quite an amazing thing to go back. We went
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: back to the church that I was born, and you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and I walked that block, and we went back to
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: my my, my neighborhood where I grew up in, which
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: is the reason why I called my label my block
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: in stems from that block, you know, uh, being growing
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: up on that block in south central l A fifty
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: second in normity. And in that we we talked to
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: about so many different things that I never thought about.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: You know, you do your job. You know, I don't
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: talk about my job. I just do it. You know,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you don't I don't. I don't. Nobody asked me questions
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. You know, who'd you
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: work with? That? Nobody? I just do it and I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: work up in the morning, I do it again. I
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: do it again, and you and you look back. It's
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: been you know since I started this thing. It's been
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: over twenty years, and I'm going really like somebody's been
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: chronicling all these things. And it was it was a
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: very emotional saying, and I felt honored and blessed just
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: looking back and saying like, I'm at a age now
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: where I can still do the exact same thing I did,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: but this time I'm at that age. I'm in that
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: middle of my forties where you know, I'm old enough.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I'm young enough to still do it, but I'm old
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: enough to know better to do it a better way.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and I love what I'm at with it,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: and that that show just helped me like realize all
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of that. It ain't over. I got a whole another
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: second half to do. Absolutely, Like the late age is
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: never an excuse. I'm talking to Warren Campbell or visionary music.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Uh see, he's one of these people, you know, I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: teached it with that opening because he wanted the people
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: go warrant doing that too. Reason to say that he
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: had a clothing line. Y'all. Okay, now see see people
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: out that mad. They're happy, but they're mad. What I'm
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: saying he going there too? Oh heck no, come on, now,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: what else are you gonna do? Cook? You're gonna start
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a restaurant? Hot dogs? That what you're gonna do. Na's war.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: You're preaching, you're saving souls, You're putting kids in college.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Gotta beautiful wife, she got a nasal syndicated show. You
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: gotta grab me, you gotta statues, she got plaques. You've
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: been doing this since she was came out of high school.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Now you gotta clothe the Come on, naw, stop the madness.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Tell us about Ernest Paul, Ernest Paul, Ernest Paul is uh,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Ernest Paul Campbell. My grandfather love it so. Um. One
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of the reasons why you know me today is because
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: of this man, my grandfather. Right, there's a there's a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: lamb on the shirt because people go, like, you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: they get a little deeper. Was that for the lamb
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: of God? Said? It could be. It's really because my
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: grandfather every first Sunday of the month. He cooked. He
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: could lamb my grandfriend. He was an amazing cook, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: we had family dinner at his home every first Sunday.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And I mean this spread was amazing. It looked like
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: when that movie So Food right right right bright. That
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: was my granddad every first Sunday. So the story is,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I'll tell it to you succinctly, my grandfather. You could
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: appreciate this with Sean was to be the Jackie Robbinson
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the radio Wow Wow in the thirties or forties. Um.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: He was said to be the first black on air
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: personality at NBC Radio Wow. So he goes in, he
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: gets the job. M he reads the news, the sports,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and the weather. He has this amazing voice. Right this
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: is in New York. After he gets off the air,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: uh you know, he's I'm excited, you know, and two
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: white men welcome to him who are also on their personalities.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: While he's outside. He said, hey, good job today, and
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: they tell him his mother, Daisy Campbell's address in the Bronx.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: He says, listen, good job today to badsh your last
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: day m hm, because if you come back here tomorrow,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: we're gonna show up the social address and Daisy Campbell,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna kill her and we're gonna burn the house down.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: And he said to me, that was during the time
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that when a white person told you something like that,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you believe him exactly. But especially in the forties, he said.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: So he never went back, uh, And so his dreams
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: just got crashed and he became He became a bus
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: driver in New York City Transit, drove buses for thirty
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: forty years, you know. And and so this is my
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: father's father, and so because of that, he would drill
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: into my dad, don't you ever let nobody tell you
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: what you can't do? Every day, every day. And when
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I was born, my grandfather and he got older, he
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: came to l A to live with us, and so
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I was praised in the house with my father and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: my grandfather beautiful. And he would drill it into me
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: him and my dad, don't you ever let anybody tell
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: you what you can't do. And that's why I have
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: a album to this day. If you want to see
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: me turn into a maniac, Let you have an idea
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: of something I want to do, and you tell me
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I can't do it, I'll break my neck and you're
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: trying to do it the same way. I'm the same way,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the same way, and so this was simple. This was
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a started as a tribute to him. And I realized,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you know, I was good at designing this stuff, all
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the pieces that we were making. I was like, oh,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: this is amazing. And I realized, bigger guys, um because
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a small guy. I'll wait two
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: hundred forty pounds. They don't have fly close casual clothes.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You gotta go to the store and uh, I mean
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: my wife went to Paris and we was gonna shot.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I couldn't buy nothing right, right, right right. So I said, what,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I don't make some fly gear for guys my size.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because they don't go ask
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: four X. I wear two x R. Right. They don't
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: try to try to find the two X of the store.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: It's very hard. So I said, I'm going up the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: five X. I'm not getting ready to uh go past
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: five xs. I don't want to feed into your old
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: b CD too much. But you know, I don't make
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: some clothes for the bigger guys. And that's how this started.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And I named it after my grandfather was a big
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: guy as well, and you know that's where that came from.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So we started we have a whole line right now.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: You see the T shirts in the hoodies, those are
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: just promotional items that we're selling for a year, and
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: then the actual clothing line would come out two years
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: with all the really cool stuff that we already had planning. Like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you know something, I got a client, you know big,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: he's big size, he has a he's a his name
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Jeff Jenkins. We shoot we shooting the series right now.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: On that g O. He goes around the world and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: it does things that you know, challenges his fears and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that outfit Earnest paul Man. We're gonna get his size
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: if you don't mind sending some stuff and I haven't
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: wearing on the on the show. Put it on social
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: media because his name is Jeff Jenkins. Is that social
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: media is called Trubby Diaries. And he's a he's right
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: now travel, he goes right food travel, and that GEO,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: he's in fact, he's right now take. He's just left
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: New Zealand and he's taking the second episode to this
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: this week. He's in Alabama taping this second episode this week.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And like she was gonna take ten episodes the first season.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: What you're talking about is somebody I love for him to,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you know, just give your extra promotion on TV showing
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: into the world your clothes a lot. So that's still
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: we got. We got brother. Jeffrey got him, and I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: would appreciate that because any any promotion right now. We
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I just seen uh, last week, Bill Bella, he had
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a T shirt on. He was on on Instagram. I said,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't because I don't know Bill. But the lady
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that's that's my partner. Her name is Okill. She has
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: her own clothing line as well. She gave him some
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: stuff and he started rocking. I said, man, this is
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: amazing that Bill. Bill by my side. Now for Arnes
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Park and look good on Rishan. Now I got a
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: million follows. I got a million follows. If I gotta
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: sell myself, I cook on my TikTok video. I got
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: forty one thousand followers there, cook, Cannot I do it
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: for you? I wear a T shirt because I always
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: wearing suits when I do with TikTok cooking because that's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: how that's But I put on Earnest Paul for you.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: That brother, I'm gonna send you some T shirts. I'm
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: sent you a sweatshirt, sent you a Hoodie's beautiful. But again,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the bigger picture of Jeff Jakins, I want to get
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: it to him so we can rock your stuff on
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: his show, which is on that g oh Man. But
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like we with twenty Chix minutes warm, we've just been
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: talking man that I just want to I don't want
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to hold you in long because you your daughter and spelled,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: but Jesus spell but not so I got you now,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I got you. I got you when you come down here.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I cook all the time here. I can't cook like
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: your grandfather, but I can cook. You're gonna come down here,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: We're gonna cook a meal. And if America's the time,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna coming down and do it. But brother, I'm
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: just glad we finally got to talk. You know. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: love Erica the death, but I always wanted to sit
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: down and talk to you, man, and boy, you're ad
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: in life. Man is a beautiful place. And thank you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: for coming on. Money making conversation about to class. Okay,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: thank you, brother, I appreciate that. Thank you, and we
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: talked soon. Man,