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Rasheed Wallace on his NBA Career & "Let's Get Technical" Podcast · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: the bigger obstacles in life. Will present to you my
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Speaker 1: next guest I'm happy to have on the phone. Uh.
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Speaker 1: He's Rashid Wallace. He's a Philadelphia Sports Hall of Famer
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Speaker 1: and sixteen year NBA veteran four time NBA All Store.
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Speaker 1: He's a phillip philanthropists, activists, high school basketball coach, and
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Speaker 1: co host Alexica Technical Podcasts, where just former NBA teammate
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Speaker 1: Bozzy Wells. Rashis is dedicated to helping this community and
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Speaker 1: bringing people together. He provides food and resources to underserve
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Speaker 1: communities and cities including Philadelphia, Charlotte, Durham, Flint, Detroit, and
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Speaker 1: has been a leading voice into the calling for an
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Speaker 1: in to gun violence, police brutality, and racial injustice. Please
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Speaker 1: work with to money making conversations. Rashid Wallace, Hey, Hey,
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Speaker 1: thanks for having had lots. Sash had nothing to do basketball,
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Speaker 1: just at the basketball in the beginning, but after that, man,
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Speaker 1: You're all about the community. Man, tell us about that
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Speaker 1: transition man from the NBA to be a person that
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Speaker 1: has a voice that's not tied. You know, you always
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Speaker 1: be known with sports, you always as part of your brand.
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Speaker 1: But you know the step out there can you six
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Speaker 1: ft eleven almost seven feet tall? So you're always gonna
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Speaker 1: make an interest in any room that you enter. But
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Speaker 1: but your brand of what you're trying to be known for, now,
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Speaker 1: what is it? Um? Just just being a good person
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Speaker 1: to sum it up, you know, I just I just
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Speaker 1: try to be me, do what I can do, um
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Speaker 1: the most highest, put me in a position where I
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Speaker 1: can help others. Um As you mentioned on your intro.
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Speaker 1: You know, different people have different different signs of success,
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Speaker 1: and it's just a majority of people based their success,
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Speaker 1: like you said, off the money, But I don't. I
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Speaker 1: don't base my success off the money because hey, just
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Speaker 1: as fast as they coming can go. Absolutely though, to me,
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Speaker 1: I I look at what what what am I going
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Speaker 1: to leave behind? What am I here for? What am
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Speaker 1: I doing now while I'm here? To me, that's my success.
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Speaker 1: You know, I could just be sitting at home and calcultator,
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Speaker 1: you know, retire but I choose not to. I choose
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Speaker 1: to be out there in the streets and in the
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Speaker 1: midst of it all to try to get to get
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Speaker 1: life right, to get things right in our community for
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Speaker 1: our people, to make it better and know being. And
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Speaker 1: it's really interesting because you can't avoid who you are.
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Speaker 1: You're nearly seven feet tall, so no matter where you go,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna gain attention when you come in there. You're
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Speaker 1: a good looking guy, you're tall, you dress right, and
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Speaker 1: so with that attention, you can't avoid who, what you've been,
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Speaker 1: or what you're trying to accomplish in life. And so
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Speaker 1: when you talk about your right, money can't go man.
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Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight people found that out the stock
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Speaker 1: market crash, and that money when left right and out
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Speaker 1: of everybody's pockets. And so that was a big old signal.
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Speaker 1: And so when I see that you all over the
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Speaker 1: country caring about different locations and places of need, how
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Speaker 1: does that exactly work? Do you have a staff? Do
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Speaker 1: you just you're watching television, you just have an urge
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Speaker 1: to contribute? How does that work with your what your
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Speaker 1: what's your organization? Machi, It's not even the organization. It
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Speaker 1: was just all from the muffle um. You know, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't have time to sit back and and get
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Speaker 1: proper clearance to go here and then get this permitting,
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Speaker 1: that permit, because by the time those things happen, you know,
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Speaker 1: your your cause is lost and people need these resources now,
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Speaker 1: not a couple of months from around when people downtown
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Speaker 1: decided to stamp it and now it's a permit. Okay,
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Speaker 1: we could do it. No they don't. They need to
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Speaker 1: help now. And that's that's always been the thing, is,
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Speaker 1: you know, just trying to trying to do what I
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Speaker 1: could do. I've seen it growing up in my neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: I got my I guess you could say my community
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Speaker 1: love I got from my babysitter when I was a
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Speaker 1: young fella. My babysitter was block captain and so being
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Speaker 1: that block captain, she was responsible for how to block
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Speaker 1: look you know all of all the other homes, you know,
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Speaker 1: the front houses, and you know how everything looks. And
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Speaker 1: to me seeing that growing up was like okay, dag
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Speaker 1: mr core. She she really into, you know, into her
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Speaker 1: neighbors and this and that, and then it just went
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Speaker 1: on from there, you know, just showing different love and
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Speaker 1: doing and doing this and doing that, So I mean,
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Speaker 1: I get the joy out of it. Man. It's you know,
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Speaker 1: I spent my birthday up in Flint, um a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago. My birthday was on the sevent team.
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Speaker 1: I spent my birthday in Flint passing out resources to
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Speaker 1: the people that needed it. Man. And and to me,
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Speaker 1: that was my birthday present. You know when I knocked
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Speaker 1: on them doors, you know, me and me and the
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Speaker 1: other brothers and sisters that were out there, and we're
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Speaker 1: knocking on them doors and we're dropping these packages off.
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Speaker 1: And to see the smile on a lot of these
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Speaker 1: people faces like like Yo, that's that's it for me.
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Speaker 1: That's that's that's what I do it for. I don't
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Speaker 1: do it for no recognition. I can care less about
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Speaker 1: a TV camera being out there or whatever. No do
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Speaker 1: it for the people. Well, you know, so would you?
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Speaker 1: Would you being there? Tell us my listeners and sometimes
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Speaker 1: in some situation viewers, what what is going on in
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Speaker 1: Flint right now? You was up there passing out care packages.
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Speaker 1: So there's still a need to be doing that. So
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Speaker 1: what exactly from from a social standpoint, political standpoint, what
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Speaker 1: are they doing for those people up there? Well? Everyone
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Speaker 1: thinks that it's settled because the state of Michigan gave
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Speaker 1: the residents to Flint six hundred million dollars. But that's
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Speaker 1: that's not a lot of money because breaking it down,
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Speaker 1: it's only gonna come out to something about I think,
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Speaker 1: like hundred per person who was affected by this. And
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Speaker 1: then you have to prove that you lived in this
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Speaker 1: community or you know, through doctors notes or whatever. I
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Speaker 1: guess that you have, uh, you know, these illnesses from
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Speaker 1: the lead being in the water. So you pretty much
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Speaker 1: got to prove it to me. I see it all.
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Speaker 1: I see, I see the kids up there, you know
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Speaker 1: when it first happened. I'm up there in the community.
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Speaker 1: And I really wish I still had the picture. I know,
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Speaker 1: my cousin Mike, but we we took samples of the water.
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Speaker 1: Like man, this this water was sober. Just imagine if
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Speaker 1: you lived out in the field, right, it's a big
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Speaker 1: rainstorm and you went out there and you got some
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Speaker 1: mud from the mud hole and you put it all
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Speaker 1: in the bottle and that and that whole muddy water.
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Speaker 1: That's how this was up in Flint. And this and
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Speaker 1: this is a yes, this is a catastrophe, like it
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Speaker 1: wasn't allow when you saw pictures of this contaminated water
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Speaker 1: looking lime green and you know do do brown and
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Speaker 1: all that that was real. And this is what they're
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Speaker 1: trying to tell the people that you gotta bathe in,
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Speaker 1: you gotta drink it. You know. Just think about our
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Speaker 1: kids in elementary scores cooking, you know every day like
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Speaker 1: we take we take it for granted how much we
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Speaker 1: use water every day. You know, when you wake up,
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Speaker 1: what's the first thing you do. You know, you take
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Speaker 1: your shower, bright your teeth and all that. Right then,
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Speaker 1: as you just mentioned water for your cooking, you know,
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Speaker 1: your coffee or your tea, you know, every day and
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Speaker 1: these they have to stip out of of of of
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Speaker 1: with bottle waters, with gallon bottle waters, you know, and
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Speaker 1: you gotta heat this up. This is how you gotta
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Speaker 1: watch and wash up taking bird back, you know. And
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Speaker 1: it's just a certain area in Flint now. So so
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of tap into your emotions because
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Speaker 1: I know you always in the NBA, you huld always
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Speaker 1: show me you an emotional guy. And you're seeing this
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Speaker 1: because a lot of the stuff is out of your hands.
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Speaker 1: You know, you can't do anything or you can go
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Speaker 1: up there, you can pass it that. But you know,
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Speaker 1: this is only lack of that. They say, a band
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Speaker 1: band aide over a gunshot. Really, that's all it is.
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Speaker 1: And so how do you how do do you walk
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Speaker 1: away from that? And and how do you maintain some
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Speaker 1: degree of not just wanted to punch somebody in the
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Speaker 1: face for being stupid because they see the same thing
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Speaker 1: you see and they have the power to correct that problem. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: in fact, and but the people that they have the
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Speaker 1: power to correct the problem are dragging their feet. Why
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Speaker 1: because them, their family and loved ones don't live in
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Speaker 1: this area right here. It is like like it's it's
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Speaker 1: one specific um area where we go to and Flint
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Speaker 1: where it's uh, it's a majority of elderly people living.
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Speaker 1: So you know, of course they can't get out there
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Speaker 1: to that grocery store. You know, no matter if they
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Speaker 1: got younger people in their family or not, you might
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Speaker 1: might not be able to get out there. Or you know,
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Speaker 1: you live, you and your husband or you and your wife.
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Speaker 1: You know, y'all living body ourselves and takes y'all, you know,
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Speaker 1: some time to be able to go out and do things. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's why we're here, you know, and we we we
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Speaker 1: I don't have no problem with going door to door,
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Speaker 1: you know, because it's it's first of all, it's all
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Speaker 1: a peaceful matter. And if the people like the want
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Speaker 1: of the resources, boom, I'm gonna leave them on sentiments
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Speaker 1: side of the door. It's not it's no problem. You know.
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Speaker 1: I still hope you have a blessed day. So it's
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Speaker 1: it's it's all about. It's all about just just as
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Speaker 1: you mentioned, to look on those people's faces when we leave,
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Speaker 1: and for us to say, like, yo, we'll be back
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Speaker 1: up in a couple of months. You know, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: get the resources together again. Like they look forward to that.
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Speaker 1: It's like almost like you know, a Christmas to some people,
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Speaker 1: because it's like through this city, through the state, they
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Speaker 1: don't care about them, but we gotta let them know. Hey, look,
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Speaker 1: y's of our brothers and sis. We care about y'all.
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Speaker 1: We care what's happening to y'all. And that's why we're
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Speaker 1: here now, you know. That's what There's the number of
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Speaker 1: cities I missed. You know, Clinton is pretty obvious. What's
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Speaker 1: gonna flint, excuse me, pretty obviously going to I mentioned Philadelphia, Charlotte,
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Speaker 1: Dorham and Detroit as some of the cities that you
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Speaker 1: you went in and underserved communities. Can you tell us
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Speaker 1: what you're doing in Philadelphia, what you've been doing, because
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Speaker 1: I like to really the people to hear your story
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Speaker 1: because you know, man, you're all over the country, you
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Speaker 1: know and and and and participate in trying to make change.
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Speaker 1: And I know you say, hey man, I don't care
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Speaker 1: for camera out there or uh, somebody's not there take pictures,
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Speaker 1: but I wish they are. I hope they are. I've
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Speaker 1: seen you, so for me, I've seen because we need
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Speaker 1: to have this story told because you're you're living it
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Speaker 1: and it needs to be documented. And and that's one
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Speaker 1: of the reasons I wanted to bring you on the show.
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Speaker 1: Hey man, I know I'm a big fan of your
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Speaker 1: NBA career, but man, what you're doing in the community
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Speaker 1: is amazing. Man. And so what what do you What
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Speaker 1: was the challenges in Philadelphia? Well, the first thing we're doing,
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Speaker 1: um coming up October sixteenth and seventeen, UM the sixteenths
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Speaker 1: myself Leonard Stewart, who's the coach at Simon Gratz High School,
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Speaker 1: and all the powers to be at Grass High school,
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Speaker 1: we're trying to put together, um, a memorial for a
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Speaker 1: former player who got killed to some senseless gun violence
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Speaker 1: and um and so we're gonna put a rally together,
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Speaker 1: you know, to drop the guns and get some hugs
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Speaker 1: or you know, any type of slogan like that. But
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Speaker 1: the main catches it's all about peace. You know, for
11:41
Speaker 1: us to we're always talking about all the white man
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Speaker 1: is the white man that well guess well, well, if
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Speaker 1: you help yourself out first, you know, you can't blame
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Speaker 1: them for everything. You can't blame the white man for
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Speaker 1: everything because we do a lot of it to ourselves.
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Speaker 1: So if we if we gain that knowledge, and and
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Speaker 1: one thing I'd like to say is positivity is power.
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Speaker 1: You know, even though negatively travel faster, everybody's spreading it
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Speaker 1: more and saying it more. But guess what, the power
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Speaker 1: of positivity it can travel just as fast. You. All
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Speaker 1: you gotta do is get that right moment with the
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Speaker 1: right people to touch other people. And what we have
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Speaker 1: going on is the drop the gun dropping. In October seventeen,
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Speaker 1: we're going up to the Lanna Young Recreation Center in
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Speaker 1: East Germantown and we were stationed there and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: do the same things that we do and Flint and
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Speaker 1: in other places where we're knocking on door to door,
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Speaker 1: pack not recently. It's hard right now for everybody out here, man,
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Speaker 1: I know it really is. It really is. And then
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Speaker 1: when you when you want to be a varce to
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Speaker 1: end gun violence, police brutality, and racial injustice, you know,
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Speaker 1: we all know we're doing the pandemic there. Uh. I
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Speaker 1: would tell people that, you know, I'm older than you,
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Speaker 1: and so I don't you know the affect that I'm
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Speaker 1: not comfortable when a police officer pulls me over, even
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Speaker 1: though I know I've got nothing wrong. That that's not fair,
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Speaker 1: that's not fair, and and and and what happened to
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Speaker 1: George Floyd kind of ignited not just black people, white
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Speaker 1: people finally kind of salt and you know, it's like
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Speaker 1: a perfect storm pandemic. They're at the house, they're getting
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Speaker 1: to watch something that everybody kind of knew, their parents
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Speaker 1: knew for sure, the young people were being shielded by
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Speaker 1: They open their eyes and go, Okay, that's why I
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Speaker 1: joyed seeing so many white people marching. I like that,
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Speaker 1: that brings up, that brings George to my heart. And
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Speaker 1: so when you're talking about battling or trying to bring
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Speaker 1: attention to it. How what what role are you playing
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Speaker 1: in all that? Rashid just just being there for the people.
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Speaker 1: Um as I mentioned, it's not about the cameras or whatever.
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Speaker 1: If I know I have some celebrity friends, you know,
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Speaker 1: ex teammates or whatever that can spare their time, sir, well,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't necessarily need money. Like I
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Speaker 1: tell everybody, they're always oh man, how can I how
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Speaker 1: can I donate this? And there I say, Hey, first off,
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a foundation. I'm not an organization.
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Speaker 1: I do this from the muffle. So what you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have to do is, I'll let you know the story
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Speaker 1: that we're using. Like up when I was going up
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Speaker 1: to Flint, we used the Walmart that was in Detroit.
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Speaker 1: Everybody who wanted to who couldn't be there to want
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Speaker 1: to chip in, you know, to get the water and resources. Okay,
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Speaker 1: call of Walmart is purchased, and then we're putting it
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Speaker 1: on our truck, on one of the palettes on our
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Speaker 1: truck to go up there. So it's that way, you know,
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Speaker 1: you're getting it right there. It's not it's not uh
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Speaker 1: have to go through this funnel or that funnel. No,
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Speaker 1: the resources going right there. If you want to buy
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Speaker 1: uh two hundred dollars worth of baby diapers, then guess
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Speaker 1: what it will be there, two hundred illars worth a
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Speaker 1: baby diapers, you know, if and a buck about it.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't want to become an
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Speaker 1: organization to where I have people doubting me, doubting what
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Speaker 1: I'm doing and thinking that their money like, oh man,
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Speaker 1: you know that money ain't doing nothing. They just that's
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Speaker 1: a scam. No, I'm not a scam. You know. I'm
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Speaker 1: right there with it, and it can't be right. You know.
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Speaker 1: It's important that you say that because people do question you.
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Speaker 1: You know, but you're a successful person. He's just out
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Speaker 1: here temporary. That's why I like what you said. You
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Speaker 1: tell the people you come back, because people don't. They
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Speaker 1: think it's a one off and you are celebrity, your star,
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Speaker 1: and so oh he's down here just to make himself
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Speaker 1: feel good this week. But when you come back, that
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Speaker 1: validates you to the community. It really does. And I've
15:22
Speaker 1: been in that position. I've been in a position with
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Speaker 1: I've spoken just every students that these are one step
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Speaker 1: away from going to jail if they make one more mistake.
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Speaker 1: And their biggest cry to me was, now you ain't
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Speaker 1: gonna come back? Yeah, what you're gonna get up out
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Speaker 1: of here? And you don't know that you know your
15:37
Speaker 1: time's up. Okay, they get a little half clap. You know,
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Speaker 1: she that you and so. But but I had to
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Speaker 1: come back every week before I got them to believe
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Speaker 1: that I cared about them. And that's really hard. And
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Speaker 1: that's why you know what I'm talking to you. You
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Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. It's like, that's why I understand
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Speaker 1: why you went to high school coaching. I'm sure because
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Speaker 1: you wanted to reach these kids and show that you care.
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Speaker 1: Plus you have a your your success story in the
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Speaker 1: sport that they want to play. You went to college
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Speaker 1: and then you proceed into last an NBA for sixteen
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Speaker 1: years using All Star. So so that's really you an
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Speaker 1: example you're using in your life as an example to them.
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming correct, definitely, because I'm definitely not coaching for
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Speaker 1: the pay. I'll tell you that, well, you said the muzzle.
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Speaker 1: Now come over, you said the muzzle. Now you know
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Speaker 1: that that high basketball it's not I love it, you know.
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Speaker 1: It's I have sense to mold and guy these young
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Speaker 1: kids into becoming something in their lives. You might not
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Speaker 1: necessarily be a pal athlete, but you would be a professional. Uh.
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Speaker 1: This is actually the past season I had and five fingers,
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Speaker 1: So I don't I can't take credit for the three
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Speaker 1: of them for the simple fact that they were playing football,
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Speaker 1: so they already were. I was just the fact that
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Speaker 1: they're athletic and couldn't play basketball. But I had two
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Speaker 1: guys on it. We're seeing and on college and I
17:14
Speaker 1: don't know, it wasn't a big college do whatever, but
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Speaker 1: guess what it was the college to help them advance
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Speaker 1: their life, like to get that preparation right. And that's
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Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about. That's what I love.
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Speaker 1: You know. It's a hard road, really, that's what Hey,
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Speaker 1: that's why I coach here, absolutely, you know. And like
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Speaker 1: I said, like you said, the thing that to your
17:34
Speaker 1: mantra has always been it is not about the money.
17:36
Speaker 1: And so I didn't expect them when I was talking
17:38
Speaker 1: about high school. I wouldn't expect you just say they're
17:40
Speaker 1: paying you, because we know that's not the case. We
17:43
Speaker 1: know that you're there to change lives. And when I
17:46
Speaker 1: look at your whole agenda, it's about changing lives. Now.
17:49
Speaker 1: Now you have a podcast and and it's called Let's
17:52
Speaker 1: Get Technical. Um, I'm assuming that's uh tied to some
17:56
Speaker 1: things you you did in your career. Uh, she said,
18:00
Speaker 1: you set the record, you know, because cause I tell
18:02
Speaker 1: everybody about the record. You're sett in two thousand and
18:04
Speaker 1: two thousand and one received forty technical files over a
18:08
Speaker 1: span of eighty games, about one technical file for every
18:12
Speaker 1: two games. What was going through your mind that season,
18:17
Speaker 1: because she um, I had a lot of things, you know,
18:21
Speaker 1: I ask them some family things, and you know, just
18:23
Speaker 1: just some of the pressures of just just playing and
18:26
Speaker 1: wanting to win, and you know, playing against great adversaries
18:29
Speaker 1: at that time. UM, it was it was also a
18:33
Speaker 1: fact of you know that, in my opinion, they tried
18:36
Speaker 1: to control me, and like, I know, I'm a grown man.
18:40
Speaker 1: You're not going to control me. I'm respectable. I'm not
18:42
Speaker 1: gonna do nothing stupid to jeopardize my job. But but damn,
18:47
Speaker 1: let me be me. I'm gonna do my work. And
18:50
Speaker 1: and then you know it all it all came out
18:53
Speaker 1: in the end, when you know, I was vindicated through
18:55
Speaker 1: certain actions and you know it's really important, like you're
18:59
Speaker 1: on that with as well. So I'm I'm based in
19:01
Speaker 1: Atlanta right now, but I'm from Houston, Texas. So I
19:04
Speaker 1: know Bondy well ball state baller, you know when he
19:07
Speaker 1: was USTR Rockets and you ranging him up in Portland
19:10
Speaker 1: when he was in Portland, right when he was drafted
19:12
Speaker 1: by the Trail Players, right, So did your Bondy immediately
19:16
Speaker 1: just a relationship they kind of like grew out and
19:18
Speaker 1: you guys just because you know, you got traded several
19:20
Speaker 1: times and so did he How did you guys maintain
19:22
Speaker 1: this relationship? Well, it was the first Bondie in my
19:26
Speaker 1: rookie you know, that's that's my guy right there. Absolutely, Um,
19:31
Speaker 1: he was my rookie in Portland. We drafted him and
19:34
Speaker 1: when he came like truth be told, I didn't know
19:36
Speaker 1: nothing about Bondi because at the time, you know, the
19:41
Speaker 1: powers to be that we're in the front office wasn't
19:43
Speaker 1: pretty much sharing who they had ideas of drafting or
19:48
Speaker 1: any of that. They didn't share that with us. So
19:50
Speaker 1: what was fine with me? Hey, I had no problem
19:52
Speaker 1: with it. But when Bondy first came in there and
19:57
Speaker 1: the first practice that we had, you know, he was
20:01
Speaker 1: a little timid. He was a little timid because he
20:03
Speaker 1: didn't know quite what to expect because it was all
20:06
Speaker 1: new for him because six months before he was just
20:09
Speaker 1: watching this on TV and here it is. Now he's
20:12
Speaker 1: in practice with it. So you know, that really does
20:17
Speaker 1: affect players like that, you know, to come in and
20:19
Speaker 1: see you guys and realize they are on the floor
20:22
Speaker 1: with you guys. Does it really affect players like that? Oh? Yes,
20:26
Speaker 1: it does. It does. It's it's it's everybody gets star struck,
20:31
Speaker 1: especially if it's a player you like. Like when I
20:34
Speaker 1: first came into the league. Man, let me tell you this.
20:37
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing was my guy, all right, And so I
20:42
Speaker 1: came into the league playing against Pat. Pat bust my ass.
20:45
Speaker 1: I'm mainly I'm mainly still in all like yo, and
20:49
Speaker 1: I'm playing against Pat Ewing. We dunking on me. I'm
20:54
Speaker 1: playing against Pat and he hitting the little fade away
20:57
Speaker 1: jump shot. I'm like, man, So yeah, we get start struck.
21:00
Speaker 1: But Bronie snapped out of it within the first week though,
21:03
Speaker 1: and once he came around, we've seen he was a dog.
21:06
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, young fellow, you you're gonna be good on
21:08
Speaker 1: this team. Come now, you know I'll be remiss to
21:13
Speaker 1: talk about you. You got to play against Michael Jordan's
21:17
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't all I was just a fan
21:20
Speaker 1: just watching the guy. And dude, give us your impression
21:23
Speaker 1: of playing against this guy and his his abilities and
21:27
Speaker 1: his talents on the basketball court. We're just talking about
21:29
Speaker 1: the basketball court and Michael Jordan. Um. I would say
21:34
Speaker 1: he's probably one of the top competitors that I've ever
21:38
Speaker 1: seen and played again, you know, and and and literally
21:42
Speaker 1: he wants to beat every game. It could be anything
21:47
Speaker 1: like you guys can be playing pig or horse, or like, oh,
21:51
Speaker 1: I bet you that I could throw this this football
21:54
Speaker 1: further than you know you can't. He wants to be
21:57
Speaker 1: He's that competitive where he wants to beat a free game.
22:01
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what drove him, That's what that's
22:03
Speaker 1: what drove him to be to the player that he
22:05
Speaker 1: was throughout his career. Because I'm gonna be the best.
22:08
Speaker 1: You better be ready because I'm coming I'm gonna be
22:10
Speaker 1: the best. And playing against him, it was the same
22:12
Speaker 1: thing I just mentioned about. Boy, I was in all
22:15
Speaker 1: too the first time I played against Mike when I
22:18
Speaker 1: was in Washington, you know, because again I'm I'm watching
22:21
Speaker 1: this man, you know, up in adult contest and in
22:24
Speaker 1: the championships and boom now here, I got a front
22:27
Speaker 1: row seat to see his brother, so it was it
22:31
Speaker 1: was definitely fun. But he's a hell of a competitor. Cool. Now,
22:35
Speaker 1: now you got a hell of a contetitor, competitor on
22:37
Speaker 1: your podcast show. Let's get technical. Now, we talked a
22:40
Speaker 1: lot of things about the community. What is your podcast
22:43
Speaker 1: show and what is your interview angling what is your
22:45
Speaker 1: approach and what what is the point of view of
22:48
Speaker 1: your podcast show. Let's get technical with Bonsy Wells Well
22:52
Speaker 1: Bonds and I are our main thing is to get
22:55
Speaker 1: information out there and have fun with it, to be different.
22:59
Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of professional athletes who
23:02
Speaker 1: have their own lane and dealing with podcasts and you know,
23:06
Speaker 1: some YouTube stuff and all of that. But Bondsi and now,
23:09
Speaker 1: of course we're different, two different personalities, but we're gonna
23:13
Speaker 1: let the people know from our point of view. You know,
23:17
Speaker 1: we're there, we're we're we're there in the community. You know,
23:20
Speaker 1: Bondsi dust community work as well up there in Indiana
23:23
Speaker 1: where he lives at UM our our our whole show
23:27
Speaker 1: is just more than basketball. We're more than about even
23:31
Speaker 1: though that's our that was our job. But you know,
23:34
Speaker 1: we want to be known for having some insight on football, boxing, baseball. Uh,
23:39
Speaker 1: you know, a whole lot of social injustice that's going
23:41
Speaker 1: on now. Um, just a lot of things. We touched
23:44
Speaker 1: on every topic now the interesting things like now Bonds
23:48
Speaker 1: as a as a hoot as they say, my as
23:50
Speaker 1: my mom was. He's a hoot, he's funny, he's entertaining.
23:53
Speaker 1: Uh you know, he's sarcastic. And so the personality is
23:57
Speaker 1: because you know, uh, she's a little bit more edgier
24:02
Speaker 1: than Bonds. But they're both passionate, but they have different
24:04
Speaker 1: ways they get to the passion. And that's why I
24:07
Speaker 1: enjoyed seeing seeing a couple of episodes. I laugh because
24:10
Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, even in the in
24:12
Speaker 1: the in the booth, there's a hight difference, okay, in
24:15
Speaker 1: the and it's really cool. But I have you read
24:20
Speaker 1: the book yet, Rushi, I have a couple of children's books. Okay, cool.
24:25
Speaker 1: The reason I want to bring up this famous line
24:27
Speaker 1: ball don't live first time I heard it, and and
24:30
Speaker 1: and the reason I want to close the show talking
24:34
Speaker 1: about that because it's more than just about basketball. When
24:38
Speaker 1: I really broke it down and and it's about life
24:41
Speaker 1: don't lie. It's about the effort. And I don't want
24:43
Speaker 1: to get too far into description because I wanted to
24:46
Speaker 1: be say it out of your boards, out of your tone,
24:48
Speaker 1: out of your language, because of the fact that you
24:51
Speaker 1: know you And when I first heard you said you know,
24:55
Speaker 1: I was like, that's so profound. And then I did
24:57
Speaker 1: my research, I went, wow, this is really a applies
25:00
Speaker 1: to corporate America. This doesn't just apply. This apply to education.
25:04
Speaker 1: This applies to what what what America is going through
25:07
Speaker 1: right now. It doesn't lie, you know, brutality in the
25:10
Speaker 1: COVID and ainteen, the economy, then difference between racial and
25:15
Speaker 1: differences that we have in America, because the ball don't
25:17
Speaker 1: lie in the end, it tells the truth. Tell us
25:20
Speaker 1: how you come up with that phrase, ball don't lie,
25:23
Speaker 1: And tell us if you if you ever write a
25:25
Speaker 1: book for adults, that has to be the title of
25:27
Speaker 1: that book. But let's go talk about ball don't lie,
25:30
Speaker 1: because I'm just telling I know you. I know you've
25:32
Speaker 1: talked about it, talking to have talked about it. A
25:34
Speaker 1: lot in your life. But it's so profound man, and
25:38
Speaker 1: and it means so much to so many different people.
25:40
Speaker 1: When you go to flint ball don't lie it, don't
25:43
Speaker 1: lie that a young man dying being shot. Ball don't lie,
25:47
Speaker 1: drop these drugs. But let me say, I'm not still
25:50
Speaker 1: in your thunder rashid tell us what ball don't lie?
25:52
Speaker 1: How did it tell? How did it come about? And
25:55
Speaker 1: how did you realize it was a unique phrase you
25:57
Speaker 1: have to hold on to. Well, truthfully, I first heard
26:01
Speaker 1: it on the schoolyards of Philly, like basketball, um, and
26:06
Speaker 1: it was just something you know, we always said, along
26:08
Speaker 1: with a whole lot of other you know, trash talking. Right,
26:11
Speaker 1: So when um, it's it's like okay, say, say you
26:16
Speaker 1: and I are playing right and boom, you try to
26:19
Speaker 1: take me to the basket. But and you think I
26:23
Speaker 1: fould you, but we both know I didn't foul. You
26:25
Speaker 1: called foul because the game point and you missed the shot,
26:28
Speaker 1: all right, and then so boom, So you get the
26:30
Speaker 1: ball back and you missed the shot and I get
26:33
Speaker 1: the rebound. Hey, that ball don't lie. So come on,
26:35
Speaker 1: and now it's my turn. You know what I'm saying.
26:37
Speaker 1: So it it just carried over to the n b A.
26:40
Speaker 1: And you know I was mainly saying that when the
26:43
Speaker 1: rest were called the weak cheesy fouls on me and
26:46
Speaker 1: the guys that go to the style line, and they
26:48
Speaker 1: missed that first Hey, balled all live. It's karma. It's
26:51
Speaker 1: a basketball guy, right right. That's hot. Man. You know
26:56
Speaker 1: I wanted this the first time we've spoken. Um. I
26:58
Speaker 1: hope you keep me in your in your memories about
27:02
Speaker 1: any opportunities if you ever want to do a documentary,
27:05
Speaker 1: man Ball, don't lie documentary, because that's what you're doing
27:08
Speaker 1: right now. For she one thing about my gift. Man,
27:11
Speaker 1: I see stuff, brother, and I see it come to truth.
27:14
Speaker 1: And you are special. Man, You're special because your story
27:19
Speaker 1: what I need to people see your story. I want
27:22
Speaker 1: your story on tape. I want your efforts on tape.
27:24
Speaker 1: I want your blessings that you're sharing with America no
27:28
Speaker 1: matter what color, on tape because you're out there doing
27:31
Speaker 1: what you say. Man Ball, don't lie, brother, You're the truth. Man.
27:35
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, good brother, for sure. You know, I'm
27:38
Speaker 1: just playing my part, doing what I'm supposed to do.
27:40
Speaker 1: You just coming off the bench, brother, that's all coming
27:42
Speaker 1: off the bench and doing what you gotta do, or
27:45
Speaker 1: thank you for calling my show, man, and we're gonna
27:47
Speaker 1: talk soon, man, And you're gonna get a call from me, man,
27:49
Speaker 1: because I'm serious. Brother. You might not want tape on you,
27:53
Speaker 1: but I won't put some tape on you. Okay, you
27:58
Speaker 1: can ask anybody about Rushan mcdown. I say what I'm
28:00
Speaker 1: gonna do. Man. You two special brother, You weren't you special? Man?
28:03
Speaker 1: Be sitting about here talking about hey mate, muscle up.
28:06
Speaker 1: Now we're gonn muscle up together and put you on
28:08
Speaker 1: tape because you change this world man by what you do,
28:12
Speaker 1: and you are a global phenomenon. Man, you know you're not.
28:17
Speaker 1: What you're doing in Flint is worldwide. You know what
28:19
Speaker 1: you're doing in de charters worldwide, Durham, Charlotte, Philadelphia. All
28:24
Speaker 1: those efforts need to be That story needs to be
28:27
Speaker 1: told because if we don't let you tell the story, man,
28:31
Speaker 1: then guess what we don't win. If you want to
28:34
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28:36
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28:39
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