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Trump’s Deportation Savings Plan a Win for Taxpayers · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Media going crazy because they're actually having to cover a
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  Speaker 1: brilliant idea from the Trump administration, the ideas to save
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  Speaker 1: American taxpayer's money while also getting deportations underway in a
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  Speaker 1: very serious way. With a large number of people self deporting.
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  Speaker 1: How does it work? We're going to pay them to
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  Speaker 1: do it. The Trump administration has now come out saying
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  Speaker 1: they are willing to pay one thousand dollars to an
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  Speaker 1: undocumented immigrant who self deports. The Department of Homeland Security
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  Speaker 1: announce it will provide travel assistance and a thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: stipend to those who use the CBP home app to
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  Speaker 1: actually leave the United States of America. The Department of
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  Speaker 1: Home in Security says, we are intensifying our efforts to
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  Speaker 1: persuade unauthorized immigrants to self deport by offering them the
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars stipend and the travel assistance.
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  Speaker 2: This was save Americans money. Now.
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  Speaker 1: The best part about this story is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the media is actually having to cover it and they
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  Speaker 1: don't know how to criticize it.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: CBS News putting a big story out there, and here's
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  Speaker 1: how they explained it to their audience.
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  Speaker 3: So Willie, how would this actually work?
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  Speaker 4: And it is Julie, good to be with you on this
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  Speaker 4: Monday afternoon. Well, the Trump administration is looking to deport
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  Speaker 4: migrants this way in large part because it would save
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  Speaker 4: the government money. That's part of the thinking here. A
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  Speaker 4: Department of Homeland Security official explain that it costs about
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  Speaker 4: seventeen thousand dollars to find and apprehend in a migrant
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  Speaker 4: who is undocumented here in the United States and deport them,
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  Speaker 4: so this could potentially save the government one thousands of
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  Speaker 4: dollars per person, and the President spoke about this earlier today.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, but what we thought we'd do is a self
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  Speaker 5: deport where we're going to pay each one a certain
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  Speaker 5: amount of money and we're going to get them a
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  Speaker 5: beautiful flight back to where they came from, and they
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  Speaker 5: have a period of time, and if they make it,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to work with them so that maybe someday,
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  Speaker 5: with a little.
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  Speaker 6: Work, they can come back in. If they're good.
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  Speaker 5: People, if they're the kind of people that we want
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  Speaker 5: in our company, industrious people that could love our country,
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  Speaker 5: and if they're not, they won't.
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  Speaker 4: Now, the way that migrants can sign up for this
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  Speaker 4: program is by using the CBP home app, that is
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  Speaker 4: the app that was used under the Biden administration for
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  Speaker 4: migrants to register themselves here so they could be the
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  Speaker 4: government could have information about them and their status here
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  Speaker 4: in the United States. But the Trump administration is using
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  Speaker 4: this as a way for migrants to not only register themselves,
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  Speaker 4: but to self deport as well. So the government looking
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  Speaker 4: to save some money here, you're looking to collect some
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  Speaker 4: information from those undocumented migrants. And I'll add that the
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  Speaker 4: effort to deport migrants has really been slowed by the courts.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen the Trump administration try to deport migrants in
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  Speaker 4: different ways, using the Alien Enemies Act, for instance, but
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  Speaker 4: this way in particular, quite a novel idea that the
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  Speaker 4: Trump administration is using, but one that they believe could
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  Speaker 4: save the government thousands of dollars per individual.
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  Speaker 1: Julia, by the way, not thousands, tens of thousands of
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  Speaker 1: dollars per immigrant illegal. Let's just call them what it
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  Speaker 1: is legal. I also thought it was interesting there. You
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  Speaker 1: may have heard the word from CBS News of them
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  Speaker 1: actually saying this is quote a novel idea.
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  Speaker 2: Now the left is just losing their mind.
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  Speaker 1: Pro immigration advocates are slamming the Department of Home and Security,
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  Speaker 1: the Trump administration offering this money, they are denouncing it,
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  Speaker 1: and they're quote urging illegal migrants to reject President Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump's offer of one thousand dollars in the free airline
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  Speaker 1: ticket to leave the country.
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  Speaker 2: Quote.
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  Speaker 1: This opinion might be worse for people who take advantage
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  Speaker 1: of it, claimed Aaron Reshelan, a pro immigrant advocate for
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  Speaker 1: the Immigration Council Advocacy group.
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  Speaker 2: Quote.
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  Speaker 1: For people illegal immigrants in immigration court, it would likely
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  Speaker 1: mean a deportation order. For others not detained for deportation,
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  Speaker 1: it would abandon clear options for staying. So they're saying
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  Speaker 1: dig in, don't take de bait, don't leave America. Steven
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  Speaker 1: Miller putting out a tweet putting it this way, The
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  Speaker 1: savings are as much as one million per illegal alien family,
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  Speaker 1: given the long term costs of free welfare and public support.
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  Speaker 1: And that is exactly why the Trump administration is now
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  Speaker 1: saying we are willing to begin paying for the commercial
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  Speaker 1: flights of illegal aliens who self deport from the US.
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  Speaker 1: We will pay these aliens in additional thousand dollars once
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  Speaker 1: they are confirmed have left the country. The Department of
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  Speaker 1: Oland Security, telling Fox News it will save American taxpayers
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  Speaker 1: seventy percent, as it currently costs DHS on average over
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  Speaker 1: seventeen one thousand to arrest, detain, and to port someone
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  Speaker 1: from the US while paying for self removal flights, and
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  Speaker 1: the stipend has protected to cost just four thousand, five
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  Speaker 1: hundred and also will be safer for ICE and preserve
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  Speaker 1: their resources. Illegal aliens here's the rules must register on
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  Speaker 1: the CBP home app and file their notice to leave
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  Speaker 1: the US in order to receive the financial assistance, and
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  Speaker 1: the stipend will only be paid once the alien is
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  Speaker 1: confirmed to have left the United States. Now, the question
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  Speaker 1: is is one thousand dollars enough to get somebody to
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  Speaker 1: want to leave the US. Some would say maybe the
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  Speaker 1: numbers too low. Well, let me explain the other part
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  Speaker 1: of the incentive here. The Department of Homeland Security is
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  Speaker 1: telling Fox News that any aliens who register to self
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  Speaker 1: deport will be immediately deprioritized for ICE arrests, meaning you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to keep looking over your shoulder and will
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  Speaker 1: maintain the ability to return to the United States of
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  Speaker 1: America illegally in the future. Department of Home in Security
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  Speaker 1: says they have already successfully tested out the financial assistance,
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  Speaker 1: recently paying for an illegal alien to fly back to
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  Speaker 1: Honduras from Chicago with more tickets that have already been
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  Speaker 1: booked for this week. Christy Nome saying this in a
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  Speaker 1: statement quote, if you are here illegally, self deportation is
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  Speaker 1: the best, safest and most cost effective way to leave
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  Speaker 1: the United States to avoid arrest. The DHS is now
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  Speaker 1: offering illegal aliens financial travel assistance in a stipend to
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  Speaker 1: return to their home country through the CBP home app.
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  Speaker 1: This is the safest option for our law enforcement for
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  Speaker 1: aliens and is a seventy percent savings for US taxpayers.
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  Speaker 1: Download the CBP home app today and self deport again.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the word from Christy Nome. Now.
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  Speaker 1: When this story broke, Fox News was the first to
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  Speaker 1: tell all of the details, and here is more of
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  Speaker 1: what they said.
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  Speaker 6: Dana, good morning to you.
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  Speaker 7: So Fox News can report exclusively that DHS will announce
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  Speaker 7: today that they're going to start paying for the commercial
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  Speaker 7: flights of illegal aliens who self deport from the US,
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  Speaker 7: and on top of that, they're going to pay them
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  Speaker 7: an additional one thousand dollars stipend once they're confirmed to
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  Speaker 7: have left the country now. DHS says doing this is
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  Speaker 7: going to be significantly cheaper for the American taxpayer. They
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  Speaker 7: tell us that right now it costs on average, about
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  Speaker 7: seventeen thousand dollars to arrest, detain, and deport someone. They say,
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  Speaker 7: paying for self deportations and the stipend will only cost
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  Speaker 7: about forty five hundred dollars per person. That's about seventy
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  Speaker 7: percent cheaper. Aliens are going to have to register to
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  Speaker 7: self deport on the new CBP home mapp to access
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  Speaker 7: that DHS financial assistance, as well as announce their intent
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  Speaker 7: to leave the country. DHS Secretary Christy Nome tells Fox
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  Speaker 7: in part quote, if you are here illegally, self deportation
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  Speaker 7: is the best, safest and most cost effective way to
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  Speaker 7: leave the United States to avoid arrest. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 7: here in the sanctuary city of Los Angeles, ICE confirms
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  Speaker 7: the Fox News that three suspects arrested in connection with
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  Speaker 7: the home invasion murder of a man in the Woodland
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  Speaker 7: Hills neighborhood last Sunday are all in the US illegally.
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  Speaker 7: ICE's acting director Todd Lyons tells Fox they are all
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  Speaker 7: Georgia nationals. Two of whom were cotton released at the
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  Speaker 7: border after crossing illegally, and the third, who overstayed a
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  Speaker 7: tourist visa and listened to this, had two previous arrests
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  Speaker 7: with ICE detainers on him ignored due to sanctuary policy.
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  Speaker 8: They were still allowed to stay here in the US
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  Speaker 8: and commit crimes. So you have three individuals from the
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  Speaker 8: nation of Georgia who didn't know each other, who have
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  Speaker 8: now met up in the sanctuary state of California in
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  Speaker 8: Los Angeles and killed an innocent person. For these elected officials,
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  Speaker 8: I say, shame on you and Dana.
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  Speaker 7: Regarding DHS paying for those self deportation flights, they tell
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  Speaker 7: us they've already tested this out successfully. They say they
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  Speaker 7: paid recently for an illegal alien to fly from Chicago
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  Speaker 7: back to Honduras. They tell us that any aliens who
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  Speaker 7: sign up and register to self deport will be immediately
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  Speaker 7: deprioritized as a target for ICE arrest. They say thousands
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  Speaker 7: have self deported already. They anticipate that number is going
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  Speaker 7: to shoot up significantly after today's announcement.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, seems like a const effective way to help handle
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  Speaker 5: it as well.
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  Speaker 1: Bill, You listens reporting from at Fox and Bill Mallusian,
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  Speaker 1: who does an unbelievable job. By the way, when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to stuff and you listen to what he said there,
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  Speaker 1: This is a novel idea that is not crazy, that
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  Speaker 1: saves us a lot of money, puts fewer people's lives
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  Speaker 1: at risk when you're going after these legal immigrants, and
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  Speaker 1: allows for people to have a chance to even come
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  Speaker 1: back into the United States of America. This is a
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  Speaker 1: win all the way around for everyone involved. And yet
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  Speaker 1: the media is like, we don't know what to do
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  Speaker 1: with it, Like we're trying to figure out a way
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  Speaker 1: to criticize it. What do we say, how do we
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  Speaker 1: undermine this, how do we attack it? How do we
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  Speaker 1: get people to be angry about it? I go back
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  Speaker 1: to the basics here. This is why I voted for
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, because he was going to think outside the
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  Speaker 1: box and when certain things weren't working, he was going
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  Speaker 1: to try something else. And this is another way to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of so many illegal immigrants in this country.
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  Speaker 1: It was a very interesting interview that President Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: did with Meet the Press. You probably didn't watch it,
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  Speaker 1: as many didn't, and if you missed it, there was
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  Speaker 1: some parts in there that I do want to play
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  Speaker 1: for you. Now, I thought about kind of cutting this
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit, and then I decided to know,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to feel the flow of the interview
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  Speaker 1: because NBC News comes out of the gate with like
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  Speaker 1: kind of like an easy, kind question, and then the
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  Speaker 1: demeanor starts to change. And I do think that's part
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  Speaker 1: of the importance of this interview. Now, it was a
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  Speaker 1: solid hour, and I'm going to give you some of
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  Speaker 1: the longer highlights, including the very beginning where NBC News
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  Speaker 1: Christian Walker sat down with the President about his quote
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  Speaker 1: first hundred days in office, and here is how she
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  Speaker 1: introduced him and her first question.
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  Speaker 3: President Trump, welcome back to meet the press.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you so much for being here to mark your
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  Speaker 9: first one hundred days in office. It has been an
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  Speaker 9: incredibly busy one hundred days. You've signed more than one
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  Speaker 9: hundred and forty executive orders. You've been focused on the border,
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  Speaker 9: of the economy, foreign policy.
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  Speaker 3: What is your biggest goal in the next one hundred days.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think we're going to see a lot of results.
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  Speaker 5: We've already seen them on the border. We have the
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  Speaker 5: best vord in the history of our country. It was
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  Speaker 5: ninety nine point nine ninety nine, and nobody ever thought
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  Speaker 5: that was possible. In fact, Biden, if you remember, said
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  Speaker 5: he has to get legislation, and I said, no, you
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  Speaker 5: just need a new president. And I guess I was right.
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  Speaker 5: We have the best border we've ever had, We're doing
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  Speaker 5: great on illegal immigration. We are being hit hard by
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  Speaker 5: judges that I think they're trying to take away the
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  Speaker 5: power of the presidency. I was elected in a massive
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  Speaker 5: landslod and a big vote. We won the swing states,
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  Speaker 5: we won the popular vote, we won the district votes
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  Speaker 5: by tremendous numbers. We want everything, and one of the reasons,
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  Speaker 5: one of the primary reasons I was elected, was to
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  Speaker 5: get people out of our country that were allowed. We
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  Speaker 5: have prisoners, we have murderers, we have terrorists.
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  Speaker 6: In our country.
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  Speaker 5: We have people from mental institutions that are seriously insane.
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  Speaker 5: They all came in through Biden's open border policy, and
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  Speaker 5: I was elected to get them out and to seal
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  Speaker 5: the border, but to get them out.
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  Speaker 6: And we'll have judges. They're activist judges.
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  Speaker 5: They're saying, well, you know, you don't have the right
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  Speaker 5: to take out murderers and people that you don't even
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  Speaker 5: want to talk about. These are really some really bad
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  Speaker 5: criminal people, and they're here illegally. So you know, they
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  Speaker 5: talk about your next question will be due process. But
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  Speaker 5: they talk about due process, but do you get due
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  Speaker 5: process when you're here illegally.
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  Speaker 9: We're going to talk about all of that. We are
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  Speaker 9: going to talk about deportation. But I want to start
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  Speaker 9: on this economy, sir, which obviously the biggest issue for voters.
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  Speaker 9: We got new numbers today, better than expected, job numbers,
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  Speaker 9: much better. At the same time, the economy shrank in
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  Speaker 9: the first quarter. You've been arguing all week that this
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  Speaker 9: is President Biden's economy. Is this now your economy?
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  Speaker 7: Sir?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think certain aspects of it are Costs are
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  Speaker 5: I was able to get down the costs, but even that,
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  Speaker 5: it takes a while to get them down, but we
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  Speaker 5: got them down good. We lost five to six billion
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  Speaker 5: dollars a day with Biden, five to six billion, and
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  Speaker 5: I've got that down to a great number right now
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  Speaker 5: in a record time. You know, we're talking about one
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  Speaker 5: hundred days, but just think of what that is. Five
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  Speaker 5: billion dollars a day. We're losing on trade, and we
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  Speaker 5: were very tough with China.
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  Speaker 6: As you know.
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  Speaker 5: We've put one hundred and forty five percent tariff on.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody's ever heard of such a thing. And we've essentially
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  Speaker 5: cut off trade relationships by putting that much of a
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  Speaker 5: tariff on. And that's okay. We've gone cold turkey. That
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  Speaker 5: means that we're not losing you know, we lost a
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  Speaker 5: trillion dollars to China, a trillion dollars. That means we're
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  Speaker 5: not losing a trillion dollars when we go cold Turkey
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  Speaker 5: because we're not doing business with them right now and
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  Speaker 5: they want to make a deal. They want to make
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  Speaker 5: a deal very badly. We'll see how that all turns out,
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  Speaker 5: but it's got to be a fair deal.
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  Speaker 6: But think of it.
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  Speaker 5: We're losing a trillion dollars and that was a big
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  Speaker 5: part of the five million dollars a day.
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  Speaker 9: And I want to talk about China, but just staying
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  Speaker 9: on this idea of the economy. On the eve of
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  Speaker 9: your inauguration, the stock market spiked. You called it the
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  Speaker 9: Trump effect.
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  Speaker 5: Are you spike because I was elected president? Well, spike
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  Speaker 5: because of anybody else. It's spike because they see what
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to do. They know what I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: do with the tariffs and everything else, and I think
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  Speaker 5: it's actually working out better than we anticipated. Do you
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  Speaker 5: see oil prices? Did you see gasoline is now below
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  Speaker 5: in many cases, in many states below two dollars.
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  Speaker 6: A gallon one ninety eight, ninety nine, one ninety seven.
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  Speaker 9: Well, my question, sir, is when the stock market spiked,
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  Speaker 9: you said this is the Trump effect. When the numbers
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  Speaker 9: weren't so good earlier this week, you said it's the
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  Speaker 9: Biden effect. Are you only taking ownership of the good
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  Speaker 9: numbers and not the bad number?
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  Speaker 5: I think he did a lot of very bad things,
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  Speaker 5: and despite some of the bad things, were overcoming them.
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  Speaker 5: But he was bad on the border. He was bad
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  Speaker 5: on the economy. We had the worst inflation in the
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  Speaker 5: history of our country. Look, Biden gave us the worst
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  Speaker 5: inflation in the history of our country. People didn't matter
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  Speaker 5: what they made because they were losing their shirt. Because
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  Speaker 5: of course, now take a look at what happened. Oil
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  Speaker 5: is down, gasoline is down, groceries are down.
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  Speaker 6: Eggs.
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  Speaker 5: You were the one that asked me. You asked me
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  Speaker 5: about eggs. It was the first week I didn't even
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  Speaker 5: know anything about. What were you talking about? Egg prices
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  Speaker 5: were so high you couldn't buy eggs. They didn't have
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  Speaker 5: any eggs, and they said, Easter is going to be
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  Speaker 5: a disaster. Well, we had easter at the White House
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  Speaker 5: and we had thousands of and they were down eighty
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  Speaker 5: seven percent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of that, of course, spike was because
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  Speaker 3: of bird flu. But when does it become the Trump
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  Speaker 3: al Why do you say that?
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  Speaker 6: Well, tell me when did we had the same bird
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  Speaker 6: flu as he?
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  Speaker 3: When does it become the Trump economy?
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  Speaker 5: It partially is right now, And I really mean this.
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  Speaker 5: I think the good parts of the Trump economy and
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  Speaker 5: the bad parts of the Biden economy because he's done.
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  Speaker 6: A terrible job.
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  Speaker 5: He did a terrible job and everything from his auto pen,
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  Speaker 5: which I'm sure he knew nothing about some of the
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  Speaker 5: things he was supposedly signing, to immigration. You look at
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  Speaker 5: what happened with immigration, how bad it was.
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  Speaker 6: Think of it.
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  Speaker 5: We have murderers, eleven eight hundred and eighty eight murderers,
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  Speaker 5: many of them murdered more than one person. Think of that,
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  Speaker 5: and they're in our country. Now, We've gotten a lot
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  Speaker 5: of them out and we know who many of them are, and.
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  Speaker 6: We're on the hunt.
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  Speaker 5: But why would anybody do that? Why would anybody who
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  Speaker 5: could do such a thing. Would it allow hundreds of
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  Speaker 5: thousands and even millions of people into our country or
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  Speaker 5: criminals and murderers at the highest level.
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  Speaker 9: But sir, you acknowledged when you announced your tariffs, for example,
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  Speaker 9: the stock market dropped, it's been volatile, it has since
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  Speaker 9: gone up. Do you take responsibility that, yeah? Do you
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  Speaker 9: take responsibility?
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  Speaker 6: Ultimately?
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  Speaker 5: I take responsibility for everything. But I've only just been
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  Speaker 5: here for a little more than three months. But the
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  Speaker 5: stock market, look at what's happened in the last short
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  Speaker 5: period of time. It didn't have nine or ten days
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: in a row or eleven days where it's gone up.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: And the tariffs have just started kicking in, and we're
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: doing really well psychologically. I mean, the fake news was
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: giving me such press on the tariffs.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: The tariffs are going to make us rich. We're going
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: to be a very rich country.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: So let's talk about the tariffs. And I want to
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: ask you about something you said this week got a
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: lot of attention. You were at your cabinet meeting.
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: You said, quote and quote what you said, maybe the
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: children will have two dollars instead of thirty dollars, and
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: more than they would normally. Are you saying that your
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: tariffs will cause some prices to go up.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: No, I think the tariffs is going to be great
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: for us because it's going to make us rich.
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: But you said some dolls are going to cost more.
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: Isn't that an acknowledgement that some prices.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Will go up.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: I don't think a beautiful baby girl needs it's eleven
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: years old, needs to have thirty dollars. I think they
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: can have three dollars or four dollars. Because what we
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: were doing with China was just unbelievable. We had a
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: trade deficit of hundreds of billions of dollars with China.
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: When you say they could have three dollars instead of
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: thirty dollars, are you saying Americans could see empty store shelves.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: No, No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying they
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: don't need to have thirty dollars. They can have three.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: They don't need to have two hundred and fifty pencils,
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: they can have five.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: But you're basically saying there could be some supply.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Sure, because of the waste money trade deficit with China
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: for things we don't need for junk that we don't need.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And obviously that's exactly what I told you a moment ago.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: You can see how the immediately the interview just started
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to change right into the we hate Donald Trump, Orange
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Man bad.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You're the problem. It's not anybody else.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: It's not the media, it's not Biden, it's not the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: liberals that destroyed this country.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: No, you're the bad guy. And Kristen Welker goes all in.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I got to say in the interview, and you can
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: hear how quickly the media again not only the coming
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: after Trump, but they're also putting words in his mouth,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: lying about what he's saying. When he said that a
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: little girl doesn't need thirty dollars maybe three or four, Like,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: we don't need the trade deficit we have, We don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: need this idea that we're addicted to all this cheap
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: stuff and they get to take advantage of us, and
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the point he was making. They're like, well, are you
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: saying we're going to run shortages? Like that's not what
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I said at all. Do you need thirty pencils or five?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: He was talking about changing the mentality of the way
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: we trade with China, and they're like, oh, so massive
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: shortges are coming. That's not what I said at all.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: They're constantly trying to put words of his mouth and long,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: keep listening as the next question comes. And this is
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: where the contingent comes from from NBC.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: This is already going up on some popular strollers.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: This is such a dishonest interview. Already, prices are down
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: on groceries. Prices are down for oil, prices are down
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: for oil.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: Energy.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Prices are down at tremendous numbers for gasoline. And let
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: me tell you when you have the big thing.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: What he did.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: He spent like a stupid person, which he was, but
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: he spent like a very stupid person. And that was
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: bad for inflation. But what really killed us with inflation
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: was the price of energy. It went up to three
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: dollars and ninety even four dollars and in California five
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: and six dollars. Right, okay, I have it down to
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: a dollar ninety eight in many states right now. When
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: you go that much lower on energy, which is ahead
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: of my prediction because I really thought I could get
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: it down into the two fifties. We have it down
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: at a dollar ninety eight in numerous places. But when
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: you say courts are going up, even mortgage rates are
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: going down.
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: Well, let me give you some examples. These are I mean,
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: these are actual examples. They're going So you're saying the
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: prices that are going down, some prices are going up. Tires, strollers,
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: some clothing in the wake of your territory.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: That's peanuts compared to energy. Energy is sixty percent of
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: the cost sir.
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: You campaign on a promise to bring prices down on day, Well.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know when you say strollers are going up?
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: What kind of a thing I'm saying that gasoline is
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: going down. Gasoline is thousands of times more important than
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: as a strollers somebody, What do you.
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: Say to Americans who say they voted for you because
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: they want and they need relief right now, and.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: They're getting it right now. What about those.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Even mortgage rates different items. Mortgage rates are going down
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: despite the fact that we have a stubborn fed But.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: You said dolls, even dolls could cost a couple bucks more.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Maybe they might, But you don't need to have us.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: I said, thirty five dollars. You can have two, three,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: four and save a lot of money. We don't need
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: to feed the beast.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I guess you're talking about this transition cost. How long
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: should people expect that transition to last?
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Mister President, I can't tell you that. I can tell
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: you that we're making a lot of money. We're doing
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: great again. We're losing more than five billion dollars a day.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Five billion dollars a day. You don't talk about that,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: and right now we're going to be at a point
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: very soon where we're making money every day.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Look how soon.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: We were losing hundreds of billions of dollars with China.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Now we're essentially not doing business with China. Therefore we're
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: saving hundreds of billions of dollars. Very simple.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: You take me to my next question, which is about China.
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: They've been making a number of public statements.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: There is positive statements the last twenty four hours.
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: Well, and most recently they said before talks could happen,
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: the US would need to remove unilateral tariffs. Would you
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: consider dropping the tariffs to get China to the negotiating team.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: No, First of all, you're giving me a statement that
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: was said a week ago.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: You're not giving the statement that was said today.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I have may second Chinese Commerce ministry.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: Do you know what they said today the US wants.
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: To negotiate, it should show sincerity by preparing to take
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: actions and correcting its mistakes and canceling the unilateral tariffs
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: they made.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: First of all, they made numerous statements.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, they've made people speak for China fifty made numerous I.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Can't give you a statement for any occasion. Yes, but
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: they said today they want to talk. Look China and
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I don't like this. I'm not happy about this. Chinese
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: is getting killed right now. They're getting absolutely destroyed. Their
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: factories are closing, their unemployment is going through the roof.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: I'm not looking to do that to China now.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: At the same time, I'm not looking to have China
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: make hundreds of millions of dollars and build more ships
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: and more army tanks and more aeroplanes.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: So you're not just be very clear, you're not dropping
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: the tariffs against China to get them to the negotiating table.
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: Those tariffs are staying on what I would you lower them.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: At some point.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: I'm going to lower them because otherwise you could never
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: do business with them, and they want to do business
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: very much. Look, their economy is really doing badly. Their
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: economy is collapsing.
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: So small businesses say they are being hurt by the
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: Chinese tariffs, and some could be forced to show how.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Many businesses have been helped.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Are you look at care of relief for small business?
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: What do you.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Always mention that you know, you pick up a couple
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: of little businesses? What about the car business? They're going
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: to make a fortune because of the teriffs? Do you
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: know that the union? The head of the union who
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: is no fan of mine, Faine Sean Fain. I guess
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: his name is right. He didn't indorce me the team
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: suits did a lot of people did, lot of unions did,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: but he didn't. He couldn't stand me. Now he's saying, Wow,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: what's Trump's done for the automobile? But I can't believe it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: I assume he's going to probably now say. The next
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: thing you can say is I endorse this guy. He's
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: the greatest I've ever seen. He can't believe it's happened.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: He said, We've been waiting forty years for somebody to
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: do what Trump is doing. So why don't you mention
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: the big car industry instead of mentioning somebody that's doing strollers?
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just asking you about small businesses.
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: Are there any discussions about giving any relief to small businesses?
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: They're not going to need it, Okay, Are these they're
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: going to make so much money? Are these if you
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: build your product here, remember there are no tariffs. If
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: you build your product here, it's very easy, it's very simple.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Are these tariffs permanent, mister President.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Depends on what you took in about one of the
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: things that is going to bring and has brought. So
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: I think we probably have close to nine trees million
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: dollars of investments coming into this country. If you look
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: at other presidents, there's never been anything like that. This
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: is over a period of two months. You've got to
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: give me a little break on the one month because
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: we're three months. But you know, let's say we had
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: to get started. We had a lot of fake news
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: at the beginning, so we had to beat that down.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: But so let's say in two months.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: So in just a short period of time, a matter
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: of a couple of months, we have the largest number
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: ever in history invested in the United States and committed.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: We have between guaranteed spoken for and people that are
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: going to make a decision and announcer pretty simplost to
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: nine trillion dollars.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: We've never had anything close.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Now that's Apple building five hundred billion dollars worth of plans.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: They always built their plants in China. Now they're building
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: their plants over here. That's the biggest computer company, the
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: biggest chip company in the world, you know, the chip
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: company from Taiwan, which is the biggest in the World's
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: committed for five hundred billion. Another one's committed for three
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: hundred billion. We have companies nobody's ever.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Seen anything like it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you the other thing, very importantly, automobile companies,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: plant after plant after plant, Toyota, Honda for General motors, stillantis.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, nobody's ever seen anything like it. And I
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: don't like this, but it happens to be. They're stopping
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: work in Mexico, and they're stopping work in Canada, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: they're all moving here.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: This is important, though.
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: You're not taking the possibility that these tariffs could be
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: permanent off the table some of them.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't do that because if somebody thought they were
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: going to come off the table, why would they build
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: in the United States?
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: Ask you, do you understand that?
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: No, I mean that's why I'm asking because there's a
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: lot of I think uncertainty for CEOs, for business owners.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: They want to know are they permanent.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: I think there's only uncertainty in the fake news. I
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: don't think there's uncertainty. I mean, I've been very rigid,
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: very strong, but I will say I have I'm flexible.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Like with respect to parts made outside of the country.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: I gave the automobile companies a little extra time. You know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: you're talking about fifteen percent and then ten percent of.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: The parts made put in a car.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I gave them a little extra time without penalizing them.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: And I did that only to help, you know, companies.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: We're looking to help companies. We want them to thrive
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: and to hire a lot of people. And that's what's happening.
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: Let me ask you about some of what Wall Street
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: has said. Some people on Wall Street have expressed concerns
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: that the possibility of a recession is increasing, And I
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: want to know what you think about that. Are you
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: comfortable with the country potentially dipping into a recession for
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: a period of time if you are able to achieve
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: your long term goals?
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, you say some people on Wall Street say, well,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: I like to tell you something else. Some people on
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Wall Street say that we're going to have the greatest
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: economy in history. Why don't you talk about them because
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: some people on Wall Street say this is well, that's what.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I'm getting at. That's what I'm getting at.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Though there are many people, there are many people on
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Wall Street say this is going to be the greatest
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: windfall ever happened.
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: And that's my question over the long term. Is it
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: okay in the short term to have our sessions?
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Look, yeah, everything's okay. What we are I said, this
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: is a transition period. I think we're going to do fantastically.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: One of your colleagues on another fake news station, ABC said,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: do you guarantee one hundred percent that a certain person
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: is going to do a fantastic job as let's say,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: secretary of Defense? Okay, because that was the question, I said,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: what kind of a question is that? Do I guarantee
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent? Nobody guarantees one hundred percent, But I
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: will say this, I think we're going to have an
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: economy the likes of.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Which we've never had before.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: You know, my four years were phenomenal, as you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: the stock market in fact, even though we had to
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: go through the COVID thing, that horrible situation with COVID.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: We did numbers and when I gave it over, when
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I handed it over, the election was rigged and I
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: handed it and because of that, we have a lot
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: of problems, by the way, But when I handed it over,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: what happened. The market was higher than it was previous to.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Just previous to COVID coming in. Nobody could believe it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: The sock market I'm talking about.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: You listen to President here, and there is a certain
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: level of sophistication with this president where he's like, I'm
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: not backing down.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to have a long discussion.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to call you out when you say things
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that are egregious, and We're going to move forward in
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: all of these interviews, having these conversations and I'm not
• 30:40
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