Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Jill Biden’s ‘Stroke Scare’ sent Joe to Waffle House, U.S. Shipyards Roar Back to Life & Is NIL Killing College Athletics Week In Review
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz, wee can review
- 0:02Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you. And here's some of the stories
- 0:04Speaker 1: that you may have missed that we talked about this
- 0:06Speaker 1: past week.
- 0:07Speaker 2: First up, Joe Biden wants you to buy her new book.
- 0:11Speaker 1: She also is trying to rewrite history and tell you
- 0:14Speaker 1: that her husband was totally fine even though she thought
- 0:17Speaker 1: he was having a stroke during the debate with President Trump.
- 0:20Speaker 1: So why did she take him to a campaign event
- 0:23Speaker 1: right afterwards and then to waffle house.
- 0:25Speaker 2: We'll dive into that in just a moment.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Also, in a big move for America's national security, we're
- 0:31Speaker 1: bringing shipbuilding back to the United States of America instead
- 0:35Speaker 1: of relying on foreign countries would put our national security.
- 0:39Speaker 2: In major risk.
- 0:40Speaker 1: And lastly sent her Cruz authoring legislation that could save
- 0:45Speaker 1: college sports, and the President United States of America saying
- 0:48Speaker 1: he's all in for it as well. It's the week
- 0:51Speaker 1: in review and it starts right now. I want to
- 0:53Speaker 1: move finally on to Joe Biden, and you want to
- 0:55Speaker 1: talk about a dumpster fire of interviews. Joe Biden's out there.
- 0:59Speaker 1: I was like, is she i Witley was searching. I'm
- 1:01Speaker 1: like is she promoting a book and does she write
- 1:03Speaker 1: about autobiography. She's out there doing all these interviews trying
- 1:07Speaker 1: to rewrite history, but also wants you to feel sorry
- 1:10Speaker 1: for her and her husband, saying that his bad night,
- 1:13Speaker 1: she was terrified he was having a stroke. The only
- 1:15Speaker 1: problem is after she thought he may be having a
- 1:17Speaker 1: stroke in that debate with Donald Trump, she had no
- 1:19Speaker 1: problem taking him to a campaign event and then to
- 1:21Speaker 1: a waffle house and said on TV with him standing there,
- 1:24Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you did such a great job tonight.
- 1:26Speaker 1: It's either I'm like, all right, well, it's you a
- 1:28Speaker 1: senior abuse or your pathological liar or both.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Well, you and I did an emergency podcast the night
- 1:34Speaker 3: of that debate. We did it immediately as the debate concluded,
- 1:38Speaker 3: and we told Verdict listeners at the time, you've just
- 1:41Speaker 3: watched the single most consequential presidential debate in American history.
- 1:45Speaker 3: And the reason is, and you and I predicted that
- 1:47Speaker 3: night as the debate ended, this debate will change the
- 1:51Speaker 3: names on the ballot in November. This debate was such
- 1:53Speaker 3: a disaster, such a train wreck. The Democrats will do
- 1:57Speaker 3: what we're worried they're going to do. With Graham Plattner,
- 1:59Speaker 3: which is pull them off and put someone else on.
- 2:02Speaker 3: The Democrats are really Republicans are lousy at this. By
- 2:04Speaker 3: the way, Republicans almost never managed to do this. The
- 2:07Speaker 3: Democrats are ruthlessly efficient. And we saw that debate. We
- 2:12Speaker 3: saw it went badly, but it turns out apparently Jill
- 2:16Speaker 3: Biden thought it went even worse than we did. Give
- 2:19Speaker 3: a listen to what she said. She thought when she
- 2:22Speaker 3: was watching the debate.
- 2:24Speaker 4: When you horrified as you saw it on fold, I
- 2:28Speaker 4: wasn't horrified. I was frightened because I had never ever
- 2:34Speaker 4: seen Joe like that before or since, never since yes,
- 2:41Speaker 4: or he's never seen never, No, Well have happened. I
- 2:46Speaker 4: don't know what happened. I mean when I as I
- 2:48Speaker 4: watched it, I thought, oh my god, he's having a stroke,
- 2:51Speaker 4: and it scared me to death.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Senator, if you think that your spouse is having a stroke, A,
- 3:01Speaker 1: why would you leave him on stage? B why would
- 3:04Speaker 1: you then ta him to a campaign event afterwards? And
- 3:07Speaker 1: C why would you then go to waffle house in
- 3:10Speaker 1: sead it to a doctor? And D if this is
- 3:13Speaker 1: the worst it ever was, And the whole world saw
- 3:15Speaker 1: that exact moment it's never been anywhere close before. After
- 3:19Speaker 1: you're either a pathological liar A or B. You're either
- 3:22Speaker 1: a pathological liar who's crazy. You pick which one you
- 3:25Speaker 1: want to be.
- 3:27Speaker 3: Look, Ben, this is an area where I think the
- 3:30Speaker 3: American people have a great sense of intuition of judging
- 3:34Speaker 3: whether someone's speaking the truth or lying. You asked the
- 3:38Speaker 3: right question, what would you do if you believed your spouse,
- 3:41Speaker 3: your spouse of many decades, was having a stroke? And
- 3:45Speaker 3: the answer every one of us would give the answer
- 3:48Speaker 3: you would give the answer I would give. The answer
- 3:50Speaker 3: everyone would give is you take your doctor, your spouse
- 3:54Speaker 3: to the hospital immediately.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Regardless of what they're doing, regardless.
- 3:57Speaker 3: Of what thinks they're having a stroke. And maybe you
- 4:00Speaker 3: don't rush out and pull him off national TV. I
- 4:03Speaker 3: don't know about that, but at a minimum, so suppose
- 4:05Speaker 3: you just just just you're scared, but you don't as
- 4:08Speaker 3: soon as it was over, how do you not say
- 4:10Speaker 3: we're going to the emergency room, We're gonna go Okay,
- 4:13Speaker 3: you don't want a big public public bruhaha, all right,
- 4:16Speaker 3: get a doctor when you're watching it, he's having a stroke,
- 4:19Speaker 3: Get a doctor here right now.
- 4:21Speaker 5: The instant he steps off stage. I want him being.
- 4:23Speaker 3: Examined like that. Anyone who is watching their spouse and
- 4:28Speaker 3: thinks they're having a stroke would do that. She didn't
- 4:32Speaker 3: do that. She went to the campaign party, she cheered
- 4:34Speaker 3: and celebrated. I'm actually not critical like you're giving. You're
- 4:40Speaker 3: giving harsh criticism because she said he did great. Look
- 4:43Speaker 3: she's a campaign spouse. Every campaign spouse is gonna say that.
- 4:48Speaker 3: I'm understanding of that. If I do a terrible job
- 4:52Speaker 3: at a debate, I don't really want Heidi to go, wow,
- 4:54Speaker 3: he really craped the bed like that.
- 4:58Speaker 2: I understand that.
- 4:59Speaker 1: But my one is the pathological lying aspect of this.
- 5:03Speaker 1: I don't believe for a second that she's telling the truth.
- 5:05Speaker 1: And she says it's the worst it's ever been. It
- 5:07Speaker 1: only happened that one time. It happened to be the
- 5:08Speaker 1: one and a half hours that was on national television
- 5:11Speaker 1: during a presidential debate.
- 5:12Speaker 2: I don't believe her.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Number one and number two, if you are I mean center,
- 5:19Speaker 1: let's go to a debate night with you. If I thought,
- 5:21Speaker 1: as one of your friends that you're having a stroke
- 5:24Speaker 1: and you could make it till the end, I would
- 5:26Speaker 1: immediately do what you just said. And I'm not your spouse,
- 5:29Speaker 1: and I think your team would. But second of all,
- 5:31Speaker 1: I think you'd also if you thought there was a
- 5:33Speaker 1: medical issue there, you probably would actually let people know,
- 5:37Speaker 1: because they did. Remember, they may have excuse they lied
- 5:39Speaker 1: and said he had a cold, Mike. If you thought
- 5:41Speaker 1: something was bad, that's your alibi to get out.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Of a terrible debate.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Which is why I think they didn't actually say it
- 5:47Speaker 1: is because this was the cognitive normal for him. And
- 5:50Speaker 1: so I think it's another part of the pathological lyeing
- 5:53Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party in the cover up is that
- 5:54Speaker 1: they're like, no, no, no, this is she says one time.
- 5:56Speaker 1: I think, no, it wasn't. This is the guy that
- 5:58Speaker 1: wasn't running the countries. Somebody else was in the White House,
- 6:01Speaker 1: and then they glied and covered it up. And now
- 6:03Speaker 1: she's saying it only happened one time. I don't believe
- 6:06Speaker 1: her for a moment.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Well, And in fact, listen to a reporter asked asking
- 6:11Speaker 3: her about whether this had been going on for a
- 6:14Speaker 3: long time.
- 6:15Speaker 5: Give a listen.
- 6:17Speaker 4: Did you ever see signs that he was falling into
- 6:21Speaker 4: cognitive decline?
- 6:23Speaker 3: No?
- 6:24Speaker 4: No, no, truly no, I mean.
- 6:29Speaker 2: That's just totally insane. Everyone saw it.
- 6:33Speaker 1: There was examples that you could actually give that were
- 6:35Speaker 1: caught on tape. And then I go back to what
- 6:38Speaker 1: she said. It was the worst I ever saw. I
- 6:39Speaker 1: thought he was having a stroke, but I didn't do
- 6:41Speaker 1: anything when he was having a stroke. And I never
- 6:43Speaker 1: saw anything like this ever. Again, this is why I
- 6:45Speaker 1: think so many Americans have distrust for politicians and why
- 6:49Speaker 1: you should even be asking more questions now about who
- 6:51Speaker 1: the hell was running the country.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Was it Joe Biden? I don't know.
- 6:55Speaker 3: And by the way, I'll say again, I am more
- 6:58Speaker 3: forgiving of a Jill Biden of the spouse. But every
- 7:03Speaker 3: Democrat aide knew that he was in massive mental decline,
- 7:07Speaker 3: that that that he was not capable of doing the job.
- 7:11Speaker 3: Every reporter knew that abcnw that CBS knew, that NBC new,
- 7:15Speaker 3: that CNN knew, that msnbcnew that.
- 7:17Speaker 5: They all knew that.
- 7:21Speaker 2: It was going on.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Every Democrat senator, every Democrat house member, they all knew that.
- 7:27Speaker 3: The four years Joe Biden was president. Do you know
- 7:29Speaker 3: how many times I spoke with him in person in
- 7:31Speaker 3: those four years? I'm going to guess one or zero zero,
- 7:34Speaker 3: Not a single time. That is weird. It is a
- 7:39Speaker 3: regular part of the job of being a senator to
- 7:41Speaker 3: talk to the president. When Obama was president, I talked
- 7:44Speaker 3: to him regularly. When Trump is president, I talked to
- 7:46Speaker 3: him sometimes every week or sometimes even every day. You know,
- 7:49Speaker 3: last time I talked to Trump was three days ago.
- 7:52Speaker 5: It is weird.
- 7:53Speaker 3: And by the way, it was not just me. Almost
- 7:57Speaker 3: every single Republican senator did not speak to him at
- 8:00Speaker 3: all during his presidency. We would sit around at lunch
- 8:03Speaker 3: and talk about how weird it was that the White
- 8:06Speaker 3: House would not let us talk.
- 8:08Speaker 5: To the president. And understand, we all knew him.
- 8:11Speaker 3: Joe was a man of the Senate for forty plus years,
- 8:14Speaker 3: so every one of us had a personal relationship with
- 8:17Speaker 3: Joe Biden and the fact that they wouldn't let him
- 8:20Speaker 3: speak to us was a screaming alarm bell that his
- 8:25Speaker 3: metal capacity has diminished so much that they couldn't let
- 8:29Speaker 3: us see it. And it's why the debate was so
- 8:31Speaker 3: high risk, because there you had the TV cameras going
- 8:34Speaker 3: and you couldn't have an aid step in and save him.
- 8:36Speaker 3: But well, by the way, what did the Biden staffs
- 8:40Speaker 3: say about Joe Biden's comments about thinking he was having
- 8:43Speaker 3: a stroke. Well, an axious reporter said, quote ex Biden aids,
- 8:49Speaker 3: simply don't believe Jill Biden.
- 8:53Speaker 5: And there's your sign. Well there's your sign.
- 8:57Speaker 3: No kidding, but I'll tell you and and this story
- 9:00Speaker 3: links back to the story we started with.
- 9:04Speaker 5: Number one.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Democrats in the party and the media do not care
- 9:10Speaker 3: about anything other than power. That sounds too harsh, but
- 9:14Speaker 3: they were willing to have for four years and potentially
- 9:17Speaker 3: for eight years, someone who was senile, who was unable
- 9:21Speaker 3: to put together coherent thoughts as the commander in chief understand,
- 9:27Speaker 3: Joe Biden could have pushed a button, launched our nukes,
- 9:31Speaker 3: an annihilated mankind from the face of the planet. And
- 9:34Speaker 3: yet Democrats say, you know what, if he's there, we
- 9:38Speaker 3: get to run things. So, you know, what does it
- 9:40Speaker 3: matter if our enemies look at the commander in chief
- 9:43Speaker 3: and think he's an adult old man who can't operate
- 9:46Speaker 3: the TV remote control? That level of cynicism. Frankly, it's
- 9:50Speaker 3: the same thought process that says, what does it matter
- 9:54Speaker 3: if someone is a commi, nazi, misogynist, racist, What does
- 10:00Speaker 3: it matter? My party gets to stay in power, so
- 10:02Speaker 3: that's good by me.
- 10:05Speaker 5: There is.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Look, I think it is number one. We keep and
- 10:11Speaker 3: by the way, swallwell, they were fine, someone's a repeat
- 10:15Speaker 3: sexual predator. They were great with him until there was
- 10:18Speaker 3: a political problem, and then with all three they immediately
- 10:22Speaker 3: jettisoned them and throw them out the back. I'm going
- 10:27Speaker 3: to try to be restrained and say that is not
- 10:30Speaker 3: the behavior of a party that gives a damn about principle.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
- 10:38Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
- 10:40Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, I
- 10:44Speaker 1: want to move center on to another really interesting story.
- 10:47Speaker 1: It does with national security, especially with what's happening in
- 10:50Speaker 1: the redle East. And I ran right now and something
- 10:52Speaker 1: that we've highlighted and talked about on this show in
- 10:56Speaker 1: the past, and that was that ship building was not
- 10:58Speaker 1: happening in the United States to America. That is a
- 11:01Speaker 1: national security issue, and it was a very clear national
- 11:05Speaker 1: security issue that was brought up. You were one of
- 11:07Speaker 1: those sounding the alarm on it, because when you're dependent
- 11:10Speaker 1: on your ships being made overseas and you have things
- 11:12Speaker 1: that happened, whether it's COVID, right, that's not even a war,
- 11:16Speaker 1: but with COVID and all of these issues that we're
- 11:18Speaker 1: now seeing in the Middle East, we needed to bring
- 11:21Speaker 1: shipbuilding back to the United States of America, and now
- 11:23Speaker 1: we are seeing that actually happen.
- 11:26Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Another one of the major provisions of the Working Families
- 11:29Speaker 3: Tax Cut was the funding for the Coastguard. And the
- 11:32Speaker 3: way it works in the Senate when you're writing a
- 11:34Speaker 3: bill in reconciliation, which is the process we used to
- 11:38Speaker 3: pass the Working Families Tax Cut, each committee chairman writes
- 11:42Speaker 3: the portion of the bill that is within his or
- 11:45Speaker 3: her jurisdiction. I'm the chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science,
- 11:49Speaker 3: and Transportation. We've got jurisdiction over about forty percent of
- 11:52Speaker 3: the US economy. Every single provision that was in my
- 11:56Speaker 3: jurisdiction I was responsible for writing, and I did write.
- 12:00Speaker 3: One of the subjects that is within the jurisdiction of
- 12:04Speaker 3: the Commerce Committee is the Coast Guard. The Coastguard falls
- 12:06Speaker 3: within our jurisdiction. We funded more than twenty four billion
- 12:13Speaker 3: dollars billion with a B into the Coast Guard. That
- 12:16Speaker 3: is the largest single investment in the history of the
- 12:19Speaker 3: United States.
- 12:20Speaker 5: And the Coast Guard.
- 12:21Speaker 3: I want to give you a sense of the order
- 12:23Speaker 3: of magnitude of that the annual budget of the Coast
- 12:26Speaker 3: Guard is between eleven and twelve billion dollars. In one year,
- 12:30Speaker 3: we invested more than double the annual budget of the
- 12:34Speaker 3: Coast Guard to rebuild their fleet, to rebuild to purchase
- 12:37Speaker 3: new ships, to purchase new helicopters, to purchase new capital
- 12:41Speaker 3: and infrastructure. One of the biggest elements of our investment
- 12:46Speaker 3: was Arctic ice cutters.
- 12:49Speaker 5: So if you look at.
- 12:50Speaker 3: The Arctic, near the North Pole and all around the Arctic,
- 12:54Speaker 3: that is a major national security contested domain. Russia and
- 13:00Speaker 3: China are both killing us in the Arctic, and the
- 13:04Speaker 3: United States has fallen way behind. And we put in
- 13:07Speaker 3: the funding to build new Arctic ice cutters, and the
- 13:12Speaker 3: Trump administration signed a contract to purchase eleven new Arctic
- 13:16Speaker 3: ice cutters and in particular to.
- 13:18Speaker 5: Build many of them here in the United States.
- 13:21Speaker 3: So I started this week Monday morning down in Galveston, Texas.
- 13:25Speaker 3: And in Galveston we had a groundbreaking for a brand
- 13:28Speaker 3: new shipyard where there's over a billion dollars being invested.
- 13:32Speaker 3: It's going to create more than two thousand jobs to
- 13:35Speaker 3: build Arctic ice cutters and not only is that important
- 13:38Speaker 3: for that investment, those new jobs, but that's an expertise
- 13:43Speaker 3: that doesn't exist in the United States. We're going to
- 13:45Speaker 3: see more commercial ships built in the United States and
- 13:48Speaker 3: in Texas and Galveston and Port Arthur because of this investment.
- 13:53Speaker 3: I spoke at the groundbreaking. Give a listen to what
- 13:56Speaker 3: I had to say at the groundbreaking. And I was
- 13:58Speaker 3: very proud when President Trump announced that three and a
- 14:01Speaker 3: half billion dollars was going to Davy Defense to build
- 14:05Speaker 3: five Arctic security cutters and to build them here in
- 14:09Speaker 3: the Texas Gulf Coast. That is going to produce over
- 14:20Speaker 3: two thousand high paying jobs here on the Texas Gulf Coast.
- 14:25Speaker 3: And and mark my word, that's just the beginning because
- 14:34Speaker 3: that is going to fuel a renaissance of shipbuilding right
- 14:39Speaker 3: here on the Texas Golf Coast. A final observation about Galveston.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Folks here are really particular about Galveston. It's a thing
- 14:54Speaker 3: you will learn. There's a phrase that folks from Galveston
- 14:58Speaker 3: will tell you, which is BOI born on the islands.
- 15:02Speaker 5: And it's a little bit.
- 15:03Speaker 3: There's an old line that you never ask anyone if
- 15:06Speaker 3: he's a Texan, if he is, he'll tell you, and
- 15:10Speaker 3: if he's not, you don't want to embarrass the guy.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I love, by the way, that line there, center because
- 15:17Speaker 1: it is, by the way, totally accurate. But this is
- 15:21Speaker 1: a really big, I think moment as you described it
- 15:24Speaker 1: for national security. It also makes us not dependent on
- 15:28Speaker 1: foreign countries and foreign workforces for things that deal with
- 15:32Speaker 1: national security. This is part of what you've been advocating
- 15:35Speaker 1: for with America First Policy is with the Trump administration
- 15:38Speaker 1: as well, and being able to do this and do
- 15:41Speaker 1: it quickly, and also to get these cutters back into
- 15:45Speaker 1: the Arctic where we need them from a national security standpoint,
- 15:48Speaker 1: this is a big win all the way around, and
- 15:51Speaker 1: it produces American jobs, and not just a few, as
- 15:54Speaker 1: you mentioned, You've got thousands, and then you have the
- 15:56Speaker 1: supporting jobs around those jobs as well.
- 15:59Speaker 5: Well. That's that's right.
- 16:00Speaker 3: And let me tell you a little bit of history.
- 16:03Speaker 3: You look, you're a relatively new Texan. You're from Memphis.
- 16:07Speaker 3: So this is a bit of history that I shared
- 16:09Speaker 3: at the press conference that that that that you may
- 16:12Speaker 3: not know, and that everyone in Galveston knew, but maybe
- 16:16Speaker 3: other people don't. So Galveston used to be the largest
- 16:21Speaker 3: city in Texas. Wow, Galveston was called the Queen of
- 16:26Speaker 3: the Gulf Coast. Galveston was also called the Wall Street
- 16:32Speaker 3: of the Southwest, and Galveston was called the Ellis Island
- 16:36Speaker 3: to the south. And just like Ellis Island, when people
- 16:39Speaker 3: came as immigrants, they would come to Galveston.
- 16:42Speaker 5: That that that was the.
- 16:43Speaker 3: Port of entry where where vast numbers of people came
- 16:47Speaker 3: to America through Galveston. And and what happened is in
- 16:50Speaker 3: nineteen hundred, there was a devastating hurricane that killed between
- 16:55Speaker 3: eight thousand and twelve thousand people in Galveston, and they
- 16:58Speaker 3: didn't have the technology to have it early warning signs,
- 17:01Speaker 3: so the hurricane just hit and destroyed the city and
- 17:05Speaker 3: it remains the single most devastating natural disaster in US history.
- 17:10Speaker 3: But a really cool fact that I pointed out, and
- 17:14Speaker 3: I bet you you don't know this bend. In eighteen
- 17:17Speaker 3: thirty six, Galveston was the capital of the Republic of Texas.
- 17:22Speaker 3: The Republic of Texas, we were our own nation, and
- 17:24Speaker 3: Galveston was our capital right when we became our own nation.
- 17:28Speaker 5: And so I said, look, it's really special that we're.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Seeing thousands of new manufacturing jobs coming to Galveston shipbuilding jobs.
- 17:37Speaker 3: And I mentioned in the clip you we just played
- 17:39Speaker 3: the phrase BOI. And by the way, you'll meet people
- 17:43Speaker 3: from Galveston who are fifth, sixth, seventh generation BOI board
- 17:47Speaker 3: on island. And what I called for at the press conference,
- 17:49Speaker 3: I said, listen, every Arctic ice cutter you build there.
- 17:52Speaker 3: I turned to the CEO of the company Davies that's
- 17:55Speaker 3: going to be building them, and I said, I hope
- 17:58Speaker 3: and expect on every one of those Arctic ice cutters,
- 18:00Speaker 3: somewhere in the interior on the hall, you will engrave
- 18:04Speaker 3: the simple letters BOI, because those Arctic ice cutters will
- 18:09Speaker 3: have been born on the island of Galveston. And that's
- 18:13Speaker 3: an awesome thing. But it's an awesome thing for American jobs.
- 18:16Speaker 3: You look at what President Trump is fighting to do,
- 18:19Speaker 3: what I'm fighting to do, it is bring jobs back
- 18:22Speaker 3: to American manufacturing jobs. And I'll tell you a little bit.
- 18:25Speaker 3: Let me bring you a little bit inside the story.
- 18:27Speaker 3: So the bill we wrote, we had the funding for
- 18:31Speaker 3: what was likely to be five to six Arctic ice cutters.
- 18:36Speaker 5: And there was a battle.
- 18:37Speaker 3: There was a battle that went to the to the
- 18:39Speaker 3: White House about where that contract would go, and that
- 18:43Speaker 3: battle was principally between Texas and Louisiana. Now I love Louisiana.
- 18:47Speaker 3: My parents met New Orleans. My mom went to high
- 18:49Speaker 3: school in Batterie Rouge. Louisiana is a great state. And
- 18:53Speaker 3: to be clear, Louisiana is the home of the Speaker
- 18:55Speaker 3: of the House Mike Johnson and Steve Scalise, the House
- 18:58Speaker 3: Majority leader. They're both very good friends. They they were
- 19:01Speaker 3: understandably fighting for their state and wanted the ship building
- 19:05Speaker 3: in Louisiana. I was fighting for Texas, and I will
- 19:08Speaker 3: tell you it was a knife fight at the White House.
- 19:10Speaker 3: I spoke repeatedly to the President of the United States.
- 19:13Speaker 3: I spoke to the senior staff in the White House
- 19:15Speaker 3: over and over and over again, and it was a
- 19:17Speaker 3: real fight. We didn't know who was gonna win Texas
- 19:20Speaker 3: and Louisiana. And I want to give the President real
- 19:23Speaker 3: props here. Look, we all know before he was in
- 19:25Speaker 3: the White House, the President was a businessman. Yeah, and
- 19:28Speaker 3: he is very committed to getting more for less. So
- 19:33Speaker 3: the proposal, the legislation that had been passed was funding
- 19:36Speaker 3: to build five to six new ice cutters. Trump said
- 19:39Speaker 3: that's not enough. I don't want five to six. I
- 19:42Speaker 3: want eleven. And so they found new funding that had
- 19:46Speaker 3: been appropriated by Congress, and what they ended up doing
- 19:49Speaker 3: was approving both. So there's several ice cutters being built
- 19:51Speaker 3: in Louisiana, there are several being built in Texas.
- 19:54Speaker 5: And it was a win win, and it's a great example.
- 19:57Speaker 3: He went to the ship building companies and he said,
- 20:01Speaker 3: I want you to cut your prices and deliver more ships.
- 20:04Speaker 3: And they did. And this was not staff driven. This
- 20:08Speaker 3: was you know, Trump is a builder, so he I mean,
- 20:11Speaker 3: he likes things like negotiating a contract. And he leaned
- 20:16Speaker 3: in and instead of five to six ized cutters, we're
- 20:18Speaker 3: getting eleven. Instead of just one place Louisiana or Texas,
- 20:21Speaker 3: we're getting both. And we're getting thousands and thousands of
- 20:24Speaker 3: new jobs, and we're going to be able to compete
- 20:26Speaker 3: with and protect our national security the Arctic against Russia
- 20:29Speaker 3: and China.
- 20:30Speaker 5: It is a win win all around.
- 20:33Speaker 1: As before, if you want to hear the rest of
- 20:35Speaker 1: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
- 20:38Speaker 1: dow the podcasts from earlier this week to hear the
- 20:40Speaker 1: entire thing. I want to get back to the big
- 20:44Speaker 1: story Number three of the week you may have missed well.
- 20:47Speaker 3: This week I shared a hearing on college sports and
- 20:51Speaker 3: saving college sports. And we've talked before on Verdict about
- 20:54Speaker 3: how college sports is in crisis right now.
- 20:56Speaker 5: It is chaos.
- 20:57Speaker 3: You've got an out of control transfer portal with athletes
- 21:00Speaker 3: transferring three, four, five times.
- 21:02Speaker 5: You've got people playing until they're twenty.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Six, twenty seven, twenty eight years old.
- 21:06Speaker 3: You've got people with six seven years of playing time.
- 21:10Speaker 3: You have virtually every athletics program in the country losing
- 21:14Speaker 3: money and losing millions or even tens of millions of dollars.
- 21:17Speaker 3: Schools are going broke. They're canceling programs every week. You're
- 21:20Speaker 3: seeing women's sports getting canceled. You're seeing Olympic sports getting canceled.
- 21:25Speaker 3: You're seeing your favorite tennis getting canceled. That happened at
- 21:28Speaker 3: Arkansas just a few weeks ago. And it is if
- 21:32Speaker 3: we don't act, we are going to see much of
- 21:37Speaker 3: college sports decimated and destroyed. And so last week I
- 21:40Speaker 3: introduced bipartisan legislation with Maria Cantwell. Maria Cantwell's a Democrat
- 21:46Speaker 3: from Washington State. She is the ranking member of the
- 21:48Speaker 3: senior Democrat on the Senate Commerce Committee. I'm the chairman
- 21:51Speaker 3: of the Senate Commerce Committee. This week, we had a
- 21:53Speaker 3: big hearing and we heard testimony from leaders in college
- 21:58Speaker 3: athletics about the urgency of solving the crisis. Now, one
- 22:02Speaker 3: of our witnesses was coach Nick Saban, the legendary coach
- 22:06Speaker 3: of Alabama, and Coach Saban's testimony was incredibly powerful and
- 22:12Speaker 3: give a listen to a little bit of Coach Nick
- 22:14Speaker 3: Saban on why Congress needs to pass or protect College
- 22:19Speaker 3: Sports Act.
- 22:20Speaker 1: All right, let's play for you Nick Saban. Part of
- 22:22Speaker 1: what he had to say in front of your committee hearing.
- 22:24Speaker 1: It truly was impressive to hear him talk about sports,
- 22:27Speaker 1: especially in front of Congress.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Take a listen, Cooba.
- 22:31Speaker 6: Let me give you the history. My first year, we
- 22:33Speaker 6: had collective at Alabama two point seven million. Next year
- 22:37Speaker 6: seven million, next year ten million. I've retired. Next year
- 22:40Speaker 6: of seventeen million, next year twenty four million. Now you
- 22:43Speaker 6: have schools that have close to forty million dollar rosters.
- 22:47Speaker 6: So if we continue to do that, we're gonna lose
- 22:50Speaker 6: Olympic sports, We're gonna lose non revenue sports, We're gonna
- 22:53Speaker 6: lose scholarships, and basically what's going to happen is we're
- 22:56Speaker 6: going to have football and basketball succeed, and we'll have
- 22:59Speaker 6: clubs sports for everything else.
- 23:02Speaker 1: He's not wrong, by the way, Center, I was in
- 23:04Speaker 1: one of those non money making sports tennis, right, You
- 23:07Speaker 1: had a lot of friends that you get to know
- 23:09Speaker 1: that are in those Olympic sports, for example, that would
- 23:12Speaker 1: all disappear. And when you think about having a college
- 23:14Speaker 1: roster at eighty million, if you're a student athlete, that
- 23:17Speaker 1: in theory sounds great, but that's only in two sports.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Really the majority of that eighty you know you're talking
- 23:23Speaker 1: about Alabama. I mean, there's not that much in basketball,
- 23:25Speaker 1: I promise you at Alabama. So unless you pick football,
- 23:28Speaker 1: you're left behind. And that's the reason why you're taking
- 23:31Speaker 1: this action now and why Saban was saying what he
- 23:34Speaker 1: was saying at the time.
- 23:35Speaker 3: Well, and that there's only a handful of powerhouses that
- 23:39Speaker 3: generate and can dominate football, and so what if we
- 23:43Speaker 3: don't act. I think within five years we will see
- 23:46Speaker 3: thirty to fifty colleges that have a football program and
- 23:50Speaker 3: they'll basically be an NFL and the rest of the
- 23:53Speaker 3: schools that their programs will be obliterated and There are
- 23:57Speaker 3: a lot of reasons that's tragic. One is just sports
- 23:59Speaker 3: brings us together. Sports is so much fun. Look, we're
- 24:03Speaker 3: divided on so many issues today. We scream at each
- 24:05Speaker 3: other where we're like it really is hard to.
- 24:08Speaker 5: Find common ground.
- 24:09Speaker 3: And yet you can go cheer on your alma mater
- 24:12Speaker 3: and you can be there with people of different parties,
- 24:14Speaker 3: people of different races, people have different religions, and you're
- 24:16Speaker 3: all standing together. That's really important. Every bit as critical
- 24:21Speaker 3: as that is. College sports is an amazing avenue for
- 24:27Speaker 3: education for millions of young men and women. And until
- 24:30Speaker 3: I really started diving in to this topic and working
- 24:34Speaker 3: to save college sports, I hadn't really focused on how
- 24:39Speaker 3: college athletics is something that is unique in the United States.
- 24:42Speaker 3: No other country has anything remotely resembling what we have
- 24:47Speaker 3: here with college sports. There are today more than a
- 24:50Speaker 3: half million college athletes right now.
- 24:55Speaker 5: Every year.
- 24:56Speaker 3: Athletics enables kids, many kids from low income homes, many
- 25:03Speaker 3: minority kids, who otherwise might not have had a chance
- 25:07Speaker 3: to go to college. It enables them to go to
- 25:09Speaker 3: college to study, to get a degree, to learn skills,
- 25:12Speaker 3: to learn hard work and discipline and teamwork and sportsmanship.
- 25:16Speaker 2: Accountability just showing up.
- 25:18Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I learned from just
- 25:21Speaker 1: the accountability, which, by the way, it made me a
- 25:23Speaker 1: better person. It made me better in business, It made
- 25:25Speaker 1: me better in my job that I did afterwards. There
- 25:28Speaker 1: are so many young men when I was at Old
- 25:30Speaker 1: Miss that said, they literally believe they would either have
- 25:34Speaker 1: been dead, they would have been in a gang if
- 25:36Speaker 1: it wasn't for sports keeping them out of trouble in
- 25:39Speaker 1: high school. And then they said, if it wasn't for
- 25:41Speaker 1: college and getting that college education, they would have immediately
- 25:44Speaker 1: been into bad stuff on the streets. They said that
- 25:46Speaker 1: sports actually saved their life, and not only say their life.
- 25:50Speaker 1: A lot of them they were the first member of
- 25:52Speaker 1: their family to ever go to college, and they went
- 25:54Speaker 1: because they were an incredible athlete. It gave them the opportunity,
- 25:57Speaker 1: it gave them a free education, it seemed unattainable, and
- 26:00Speaker 1: it completely changed their families trajectory in life. I think
- 26:04Speaker 1: that's one of the most important things about college sports
- 26:06Speaker 1: that people don't talk about now.
- 26:09Speaker 3: That is exactly right, and the status quo is unsustainable.
- 26:13Speaker 3: If Congress doesn't act, we will end up with hundreds
- 26:17Speaker 3: of thousands of those college athletic positions going away, and
- 26:22Speaker 3: those kids, many of them having no chance to go
- 26:26Speaker 3: to school, to go to college to get those skills,
- 26:29Speaker 3: those life skills that set them up for success. And
- 26:31Speaker 3: look the way I approach this, I didn't worry too
- 26:35Speaker 3: much about about the top one percent. I didn't worry
- 26:37Speaker 3: about the Michael Jordan's or arch mannings. I worried about
- 26:41Speaker 3: the ninety nine percent of college athletes who are never
- 26:43Speaker 3: going to play pro ball, but it's giving them opportunity.
- 26:46Speaker 2: I had a ton of people Centator that were calling me.
- 26:49Speaker 1: I had friends and people I've known the past come
- 26:51Speaker 1: out of that would work because they knew how important
- 26:53Speaker 1: this bill was. They knew how important it was to you.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Asking me questions. There was a lot of people saying
- 26:57Speaker 1: they're just not gonna be able to get this done.
- 26:59Speaker 1: There's no way you'll get by parsonship here. That seems
- 27:02Speaker 1: to not be true. And they said, well, there's no
- 27:03Speaker 1: way even though he'll be able to get the White
- 27:04Speaker 1: House behind it.
- 27:05Speaker 2: That also doesn't seem to be true either.
- 27:07Speaker 1: There is a lot of growing by parson support here
- 27:10Speaker 1: to get this thing done.
- 27:11Speaker 3: Well, there is, And I worked for months. Rick Cantwell
- 27:15Speaker 3: and I negotiated. We sat in the conference room six
- 27:18Speaker 3: eight hours a day negotiating provision by provision by provision.
- 27:21Speaker 3: We introduced it with Cantwell and myself a Democrat and Republican,
- 27:26Speaker 3: and also with Eric Schmidt, a Republican from Missouri, and
- 27:31Speaker 3: Chris Coon's a Democrat from Delaware. So we had two Democrats,
- 27:33Speaker 3: two Republicans on the bill, and we've seen phenomenal.
- 27:37Speaker 5: Support for it.
- 27:38Speaker 3: So the ACC has come out emphatically in support of it,
- 27:42Speaker 3: The Big Twelve has come out emphatically and support of it.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Condoleeza Rice at Stanford has come out emphatically in support
- 27:50Speaker 3: of it. At the hearing, Pete Bavaqua, the athletic director
- 27:53Speaker 3: at Notre Dame, testified strongly in support of it. Gordon
- 27:56Speaker 3: Gee testified at the hearing, former president of West Virginia
- 28:00Speaker 3: University also Vanderbilt, has been a president of actually five universities.
- 28:05Speaker 5: He testified that this is a.
- 28:06Speaker 3: Crisis and this bill is the only hope to save
- 28:09Speaker 3: college sports. And we've had already, We've had over one
- 28:15Speaker 3: hundred and thirty signatures from leaders at more than sixty
- 28:19Speaker 3: five universities come out in support of the bill, and importantly,
- 28:23Speaker 3: this week President Donald J. Trump came out strongly in
- 28:26Speaker 3: support of the bill. He's he sent a truth social
- 28:29Speaker 3: that I want to read to you. Here's what he said.
- 28:32Speaker 3: College sports, a great American institution that produces our many athletes, leaders,
- 28:36Speaker 3: and Olympic dominance, is a total mess, and everyone is
- 28:40Speaker 3: saying that it must be fixed. After uninny lawsuits and
- 28:43Speaker 3: crazed rulings, there are virtually no limits anymore, and soon
- 28:47Speaker 3: most colleges won't have sports because each and every one
- 28:49Speaker 3: of them will be bankrupt, never to be heard from again.
- 28:53Speaker 3: Women's sports and the Olympics itself are in the most
- 28:57Speaker 3: danger from this catastrophic situation. College sports are turning into
- 29:01Speaker 3: pro sports, except with absolutely no rules, a result no
- 29:05Speaker 3: one wants. University presidents, conference commissioners, student athletes, coaches, and
- 29:11Speaker 3: athletic directors all complained to me that it has become
- 29:15Speaker 3: a disaster after years of no action, and that schools
- 29:19Speaker 3: were losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year. They
- 29:23Speaker 3: compared it to a freight train that can't be stopped.
- 29:27Speaker 3: That is why a few months ago I convened a
- 29:29Speaker 3: roundtable bringing together were a world class team as some
- 29:32Speaker 3: of the best sports executives, student athletes, and political leaders
- 29:36Speaker 3: in our country. The goal was to find a bipartisan
- 29:40Speaker 3: solution to fix the problem. Based on these meetings and
- 29:43Speaker 3: the expertise of the leading authorities, I signed an executive order,
- 29:47Speaker 3: but I always said that the best solution was to
- 29:49Speaker 3: get a bipartisan act through Congress to my desk in
- 29:54Speaker 3: order to save a long and embarrassing road through Hell
- 29:59Speaker 3: for the these institutions. I'd like to thank Senators Ted Cruz,
- 30:04Speaker 3: Eric Schmidt, Maria Cantwell, and Chris Coons, among others, for
- 30:07Speaker 3: introducing the Protect College Sports Act. This law resolves many
- 30:12Speaker 3: of the most urgent issues challenging our universities and student athletes,
- 30:16Speaker 3: stops the chaos, and most importantly, it may be the
- 30:21Speaker 3: last chance to save college sports and colleges themselves before
- 30:25Speaker 3: it's too late. The House has worked long and hard
- 30:28Speaker 3: on this issue as well, and I'm very grateful to
- 30:30Speaker 3: Speaker Mike Johnson and Leader Steve Scalise for their work
- 30:33Speaker 3: to fix this very major problem. I urge the House
- 30:36Speaker 3: and Senate to come together to pass a final bipartisan
- 30:40Speaker 3: law that I can sign this summer that reflects the
- 30:44Speaker 3: views and input of both chambers and in all caps,
- 30:48Speaker 3: we have to save college sports. Thank you for your
- 30:52Speaker 3: attention to this matter, President Donald J.
- 30:54Speaker 5: Trump.
- 30:55Speaker 3: The support we're seeing is really significant, and I think
- 30:59Speaker 3: we're going to see, hope and believe, a big bipartisan
- 31:03Speaker 3: vote in the Senate behind this bill.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Well, what's the timeline now and how much is there
- 31:07Speaker 1: going to be people pushing since now this has become so,
- 31:11Speaker 1: you know, such a big discussion to try to change
- 31:13Speaker 1: things the last minute. Is that going to be a
- 31:15Speaker 1: problem and what does that look like?
- 31:16Speaker 3: Oh, look, that is going on, and there are a
- 31:20Speaker 3: handful of people that are criticizing and throwing rocks, But
- 31:23Speaker 3: I'll tell you most people are shocked that we could
- 31:26Speaker 3: actually find a bipartisan compromise and and and listen, one
- 31:31Speaker 3: of the natures of that. That means that that I
- 31:33Speaker 3: had to give quite a bit and and the Democrats
- 31:36Speaker 3: had to give quite a bit to find a common
- 31:38Speaker 3: ground because we can't pass this bill unless you get
- 31:41Speaker 3: at least sixty votes in the Senate. That means you
- 31:44Speaker 3: need at least seven Democrats. There are only fifty three Republicans.
- 31:48Speaker 3: And my objective, frankly, is to get a lot more
- 31:50Speaker 3: than sixty votes. I'd like to see a big bipartisan
- 31:54Speaker 3: vote come out of the Senate. The House has tried
- 31:57Speaker 3: several times to fix this problem, and unfortunately, every time
- 32:01Speaker 3: they try to take up a bill, it's failed in
- 32:03Speaker 3: the House. And so I think the Senate has got
- 32:06Speaker 3: to step in because the clock is ticking. And I
- 32:10Speaker 3: will say that there's a real risk also of the
- 32:14Speaker 3: biggest players coming together to form a super league, and
- 32:18Speaker 3: I think that would be disastrous for everybody else and
- 32:22Speaker 3: not good for fans. Let's take my home state of Texas.
- 32:25Speaker 3: Look my home state of Texas. If Congress does nothing
- 32:30Speaker 3: in three to five years, I am certain that the
- 32:32Speaker 3: University of Texas will survive, and I'm certain A and
- 32:35Speaker 3: M will survive. They're so big, they have such a
- 32:37Speaker 3: big donor base and alumni base that they'll survive no
- 32:40Speaker 3: matter what happens. But it's not at all clear that
- 32:44Speaker 3: the other players in Texas survive. It's not clear that
- 32:47Speaker 3: TCU or SMU or University of Houston or Rice or
- 32:50Speaker 3: Texas Tech or Baylor, all of the different programs in
- 32:54Speaker 3: Texas they could go under in the status quo, and
- 32:57Speaker 3: I think that would be a terrible outcome if we
- 32:59Speaker 3: lose historic programs all over Texas, not just football, but
- 33:04Speaker 3: when you lose football, football pays for all the other sports.
- 33:07Speaker 3: So when you lose football, you end up losing the
- 33:11Speaker 3: entire array of sports. That would be tragic and we
- 33:14Speaker 3: can't let it happen.
- 33:15Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right there.
- 33:17Speaker 1: If people want to get behind this legislation, is this
- 33:20Speaker 1: one of those where they talk to their senators and
- 33:21Speaker 1: their congressman.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Who do they need to contact quickly?
- 33:24Speaker 3: Look, the first order of business is your senator and
- 33:28Speaker 3: urging your senator, whether your senator is a Republican or Democrat,
- 33:31Speaker 3: urging your senator get behind this bill, the Bipartisan Protect
- 33:35Speaker 3: College Sports Act. There's an urgency. I am hoping to
- 33:38Speaker 3: move quickly on this. I'd like to get a big
- 33:40Speaker 3: vote in the Senate. Once we get it out of
- 33:42Speaker 3: the Senate, then the next step will be the House.
- 33:44Speaker 3: But calling your senator, going on social media, speaking out
- 33:48Speaker 3: and saying that sports, college sports should be saved, that's
- 33:52Speaker 3: really valuable.
- 33:53Speaker 1: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Senator
- 33:57Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal
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- 34:03Speaker 1: day when you listen to Verdict afterwards, I'd love to
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- 34:09Speaker 1: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.