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Full Episode: Ash Cash is a leading Financial Motivator, Michael Hyatt stars on FX’s “Snowfall,” Porscha Coleman co-stars on “Dad Stop Embarrassing Me!,” & Xavier Peoples is a Private Wealth Advisor · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and
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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me
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Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the case you didn't notice,
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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do,
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Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here
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Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to money Making Conversations. I'm your host,
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Speaker 1: ras Sean McDonald. It's time to stop reading other people's
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Speaker 1: success stories and come on y'all and start writing your own.
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Speaker 1: I always tell people who always lead with their gifts,
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Speaker 1: their passion, and don't let your age, French family, and
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Speaker 1: coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams. My
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Speaker 1: interviews did not do on money making conversation. Always provide
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Speaker 1: the consumer that's your business owners, access to celebrity CEOs,
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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. My next guest is truly
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Speaker 1: an industry decision maker. My next guest name is hash Cash.
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Speaker 1: He's one of the nation's top financial educators, personal bank
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Speaker 1: personal finance experts, business coach, motivational speaker, a former fifteen
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Speaker 1: year banking executive, and the author of many books, including
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Speaker 1: four Amazon dot Com bestsellers. He's been featured on many
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Speaker 1: media outlets such as CNN, The New York Times, Ball
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Speaker 1: Street Journal, American Banker, CNBC, The Street, dot Com, Black
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Speaker 1: Enterprise Essence Magazine, and Ebony. He's dubbed as the financial Motivator.
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Speaker 1: He used a culturally responsive approach and teaching financial literacy,
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Speaker 1: wealth building, and entrepreneurship. Please work with the money making conversations.
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Speaker 1: He's my friend, ash Cash brother. Thank you so much
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Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate you. It's a pleasant you know.
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Speaker 1: I had to throw on my money making shirt all
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Speaker 1: as a little because money making conversations, so we have
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Speaker 1: to make happen. What's the great thing about it is
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Speaker 1: that watching you build your career and watching you, as
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Speaker 1: you know, stand on the sideline watch people I started people.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand. You do not have to jump out
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Speaker 1: there immediately to say I've arrived. You should have come
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Speaker 1: with some experience. Let's talk about your background a little
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Speaker 1: bit on being able to make you an authority, make
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Speaker 1: you authentic, make you organically appreciated by the people who
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Speaker 1: you give advice to. How did it all start for you? Yes,
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Speaker 1: it's it's it started uh nineteen years old, straight out
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Speaker 1: of high school. Actually, I was working at a video
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Speaker 1: store rest in peace to Blockbuster videos, and I knew
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Speaker 1: that I didn't want to, uh, you know, be a
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Speaker 1: store manager. And one day one of the assistant managers
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Speaker 1: said that they were hiring at Chase Bank for tellers. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And so I said, oh, you know what you know,
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Speaker 1: let me let me just test it out. I love money,
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Speaker 1: let me just go test it out. Um. And so
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Speaker 1: I started my career as a as a teller at
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Speaker 1: nineteen years old. Uh. And I did everything you know
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Speaker 1: in banking, from teller to personal banking to a private
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Speaker 1: banker branch manager. I was a CEO of a credit union. Um.
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Speaker 1: And while I was working though one of my my
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Speaker 1: joy I used to go to to to jails, you know,
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Speaker 1: Rikers Island, to churches, to comunity based organizations and teach
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Speaker 1: financial literacy. Um. And I'm a big jay Z fan.
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Speaker 1: So in the in the words of the Honorable Sean Carter. Uh,
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Speaker 1: there's much bigger issues in the world, I know. So
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Speaker 1: I first had to take care of the world, I know.
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Speaker 1: And so I figured, I said, you know what, I
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Speaker 1: want to do this for a living. And so from
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Speaker 1: there I just decided, like how do I make money?
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Speaker 1: How do I make impact? Number one? But then how
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Speaker 1: do I make an income and an impact? Um? And
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Speaker 1: that's when I wrote my first book in two thousand
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Speaker 1: and nine. Uh, and really just kind of you know,
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Speaker 1: became a speaker, became a financial educator, um. And then
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Speaker 1: you know, here I am today, still doing the same thing,
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Speaker 1: still still a financial educator, but really uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: doing it at a at a level that allows me
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Speaker 1: to have you know, more impact. Uh. And you know,
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Speaker 1: combine that with with with income as well. Know, ask
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Speaker 1: when we when when I brought you on the show,
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Speaker 1: bring you on the show. The whole process is just
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Speaker 1: to break down a lot of things that people fear,
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Speaker 1: and people fear money, and people fear banks. Banks intimidate people,
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Speaker 1: tax is intimidate people. What's the common effects? You know,
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Speaker 1: because you've been in the bank and you've seen all
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Speaker 1: those different layers that you have, what is the number
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Speaker 1: one common denominator that people have and not be afraid
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Speaker 1: of when they bank. Yeah, I think I think first
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Speaker 1: and foremost is knowledge, um. And then second, second of all,
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Speaker 1: it's the mindset, right because um, you know, once you
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Speaker 1: have knowledge, the people are afraid of what they don't understand, um.
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Speaker 1: And so what happens is that a lot of people
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Speaker 1: don't really understand how banking works, how taxes work. They
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Speaker 1: don't understand that part of the game, and so what
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Speaker 1: they attach themselves to is other people's experiences, other what
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Speaker 1: other people go through, which is normally the negative stuff, um.
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Speaker 1: And so they attach themselves to that negative aspect of it,
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Speaker 1: and so that becomes their reality. But if they start
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Speaker 1: to you know, get knowledgeable, right, the more we understand
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Speaker 1: how things work, um, that is going to the knowledge
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Speaker 1: is go to change our mindset and in our mindset
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Speaker 1: is going to to let us know, um that these
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Speaker 1: are you know, banking is a tool. Money is a tool.
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Speaker 1: You know, taxes even are are. It's a tool, and
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Speaker 1: if you know how to use it the right way,
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Speaker 1: you can actually use it, you know, in your favor.
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Speaker 1: You know, they're really funny when we are just hearing
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Speaker 1: your conversation, I smiled because you know, you was talking
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Speaker 1: about how people can stop you from doing your dreams.
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Speaker 1: You know, and they have negative spirits because you can
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Speaker 1: go to people, they're gonna have a negative store before
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Speaker 1: we have a good store. That's that's fact of life.
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Speaker 1: And so and in the beginning, I always tell people,
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Speaker 1: you know, don't let your age, friends, family of cord
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Speaker 1: can stop you from planning and living your dream. At
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Speaker 1: the age of nineteen, you know, you left Blockbuster, went
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Speaker 1: to a bank, and then you started having dreams of
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Speaker 1: thoughts of running the bank, being an executive. Talk about
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Speaker 1: people who didn't believe that you could do that, that
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Speaker 1: that questioned you and said, no, you're just gonna be
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Speaker 1: a teller. No, you're not gonna have a run a
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Speaker 1: credit union. Because that's stops so many people's dreams and
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Speaker 1: they allow those negative moments to dominate and then redirect
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Speaker 1: their dreamers. Yeah, I think, I think I think it's important,
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Speaker 1: um that you know, uh, you can't you can't excuse me,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. If you hit a dog, don't worry
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Speaker 1: about it, okay, Um, And so you know, I think
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Speaker 1: it's important that, um, you know, when you have a dream,
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Speaker 1: you have to realize that the dream was given to
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Speaker 1: you for a particular reason. A lot of times people
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Speaker 1: are so interested in, um, you know, what their family
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Speaker 1: has to say, what their friends have to say, not
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Speaker 1: realizing that the dream wasn't given to them. And so
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Speaker 1: I was met with a lot of opposition when I
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Speaker 1: had this dream of being a banker, when I had
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Speaker 1: a dream of you know, being a branch manager. Because
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Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is that you know, the
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Speaker 1: finance industry is two percent you know, black rights super
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Speaker 1: sent minority. And so when when you know you see so,
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Speaker 1: you know, a black guy who's from the from the hood,
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Speaker 1: you know, right, I grew up with St. Nicholas projects
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Speaker 1: in art and so, you know, black guy from Hallam
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Speaker 1: who doesn't have the education that that was necessary. Um.
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Speaker 1: I had a lot of naysays, had a lot of
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Speaker 1: people telling me what I could and couldn't do. But
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Speaker 1: the one thing is that I just had to attach
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Speaker 1: myself to that vision. I had to attach myself to
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Speaker 1: that goal and make sure that I that I just
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Speaker 1: stay focused on it. One you know, uh they always
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Speaker 1: say representation matters, um, And the one thing all I
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Speaker 1: needed to see is one person I didn't need to
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Speaker 1: see a thousand people. I just needn't see one person
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Speaker 1: that looked like me that did what I wanted to do.
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Speaker 1: And once I saw that one person, that's who I
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Speaker 1: locked in on. And everything that everybody said, or everybody
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Speaker 1: on the naysayers, it really didn't matter to me because
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Speaker 1: I knew it was possible, and that belief system, that
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Speaker 1: mindset of knowing is possible was all I needed. And
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Speaker 1: so I would tell anybody who has this dream, don't
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Speaker 1: don't share your dream with somebody who has not lived
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Speaker 1: your dream or is it has experienced your pe or
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Speaker 1: is experiencing it, because they're coming from a space of
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Speaker 1: they don't have the knowledge, right. And so if if
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Speaker 1: you're looking to to have a successful relationship, you can't
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Speaker 1: talk to somebody who's never been in a relationship and
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Speaker 1: get and get relationship advice for them. If you're looking
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Speaker 1: for money advice, you can't talk to somebody who doesn't
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Speaker 1: have money experience, Like you have to have money making
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Speaker 1: conversations with people who know how to make money but
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Speaker 1: around money, who understand money. So that way that that
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Speaker 1: advice is coming from a place of where you want
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Speaker 1: to be or where you wanna go but though once
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Speaker 1: you get their advice, it doesn't mean you hold onto
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Speaker 1: it because things change to right, you take their advice
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Speaker 1: and now you you mold it. You you create it
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Speaker 1: for you so it could it would be tailor made
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Speaker 1: for you, and then you move forward from there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's why I love That's why I was excited about
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Speaker 1: bringing on this show. Because you live my monitor, you know.
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Speaker 1: Stop reading other people's success story, that's their advice, you know,
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Speaker 1: and start writing your own. Because their pathway on how
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Speaker 1: they got there is different. The age is different, their
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Speaker 1: agenda may be different than whether you know they're they're,
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Speaker 1: their parental support may be different, and so but the
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Speaker 1: advice is important. Just don't try to live it the
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Speaker 1: way they and achieve it the way they achieved it.
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Speaker 1: But more importantly, when I when I listened to you
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Speaker 1: communicate all these these these nuggets of information about your
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Speaker 1: your history, and I tell people between the ages of
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Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty and three are important because that's when
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Speaker 1: you're you're out there being yourself. You're you're champion your
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Speaker 1: your own causes. You know, you may not be married yet,
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Speaker 1: you may be just a guy inspired female inspired a
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Speaker 1: by your dreams when you get out of that, when
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Speaker 1: you get your thirdis and farties is when your dreams
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Speaker 1: may get shifted out of pocket. Now as you were
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Speaker 1: starting to grow, what started shifting and who helped you
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Speaker 1: stay online? Ash, because I always call those people important.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people who just stepped to the plate
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Speaker 1: with Rasha, are you crazy, Rash, don't do that? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So so I would say first and foremost, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: I have to I have to say my wife, right
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Speaker 1: because when I met um, you know, we worked at
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Speaker 1: the bank together, actually um, and she was my biggest champion.
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Speaker 1: She saw a lot in me that I didn't even
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Speaker 1: really see yet. It took me a while for me
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Speaker 1: to see it, right, And so she was always speaking
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Speaker 1: life to me. Right. She was always telling me, you know,
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Speaker 1: like if I accepted something that was less than you know,
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Speaker 1: what what what what I what I knew, or or
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Speaker 1: less than what I deserved, she would be like, Na,
10:28
Speaker 1: you need to you need to step that up, right. Um. So,
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Speaker 1: so definitely, my my wife was a big part of
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Speaker 1: my success. But then also, oddly enough, it was people
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Speaker 1: I I never even met, right, because a lot of um,
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Speaker 1: you know, my neighborhood growing up how I grew up. Um,
10:48
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have access to business mentors. I
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Speaker 1: didn't have access to people that could directly mentor me. Um.
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Speaker 1: And so a lot of part of my success was
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Speaker 1: reading books. Part of my success was watching documentaries. Part
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Speaker 1: of my success was really, um just just understanding that,
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Speaker 1: you know, other people have done what I wanna do.
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Speaker 1: They laid the blueprint. Uh. And and I stayed motivated
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Speaker 1: by always, you know, focusing on you know, somebody's story
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Speaker 1: that you know that that I said, oh wow, this
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Speaker 1: person came you know, from from from from the neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: Oh this you know, this person is is Is, you know,
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Speaker 1: has nine brothers and sistants. They grew up in the
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Speaker 1: inner city too, and they and they got two emmis
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Speaker 1: and they you know what I'm saying. And it was
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Speaker 1: those type of stories that got me that that that
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Speaker 1: really kind of allowed me to continue pushing. So I
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Speaker 1: would definitely say, you know, my you know, my wife,
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Speaker 1: I would definitely say, you know stories, uh, you know, documentaries, celebrities,
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Speaker 1: business people. You know. Reginald Lewis was a big you
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Speaker 1: know uh you know, you know, a big big uh success, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, a big influence in my life black enterprise, right,
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Speaker 1: Alfred edmund Uh, you know a lot of people who
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Speaker 1: I've watched from afar. But but then eventually, and not
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Speaker 1: to get philosophical, but eventually, as you start vibrating on
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Speaker 1: the on the energy of success, you start to now
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Speaker 1: attract success, right, success attract success. And so as I
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Speaker 1: started to had to pretend and create these mentors in
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Speaker 1: my head. As I started to get successful, I now
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Speaker 1: started to to attract other successful people who have now
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Speaker 1: been my mentors directly. And so you know, I would
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Speaker 1: say it's a combination of you know, of of what
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Speaker 1: I read, who who are attracted, and then also my
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Speaker 1: wife as well. I'm speaking to Ash Cash. He's the
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Speaker 1: founder and chief Financial Educated and mind Right Money Management,
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Speaker 1: a financial education and media company have been They blends
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Speaker 1: psychology and personal finance with music, pop culture, and relevant
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Speaker 1: news to help people manage their money. Just to keep
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Speaker 1: this conversation. By managing your money, but I don't see
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Speaker 1: your lifestyle better in order to live the life that
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Speaker 1: you want. And that's important because so many people make
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Speaker 1: mistakes when they always say looking the other person's yard,
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Speaker 1: you know, just because they got the roads, don't mean
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Speaker 1: you have to have a roads or your roads that big.
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Speaker 1: You can buy a small roads for a lot less
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Speaker 1: money and let it grow to that. But a lot
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Speaker 1: of people want to match up, and that's a lot
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Speaker 1: of that's what a lot of people make errors with money.
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Speaker 1: They want to match up to what they think is successful.
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Speaker 1: Like you said earlier, in a lot of their take area,
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Speaker 1: financial area, you see very few black people people they
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Speaker 1: look like you. Well, that's why blacks a lot of
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Speaker 1: times attracted to sports because sports are dominated by African America.
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Speaker 1: Six of the NFL is black, over of the NBA
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Speaker 1: is black, and so they oh, that's that's they feel
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Speaker 1: that's easy. But still in anything you do as there
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Speaker 1: is work, there is competition. Let's take the blinders off
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Speaker 1: the fake game. Just because you see a lot of
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Speaker 1: us don't mean it's easy talk to us. Yeah, And
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Speaker 1: I love I love that you said that because I
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Speaker 1: think that's that's what happens right especially now because we
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Speaker 1: have social media um. And so social media UM is
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Speaker 1: the highlight reels. So you see the highlight reel uh,
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Speaker 1: and people say, oh, if he could do it, then
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Speaker 1: I could do it. But people don't see the sleepless nights.
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Speaker 1: People don't see the you know, the first, you're the
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Speaker 1: first to wake up, the last to go to bed.
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Speaker 1: You know that. People don't see the grind that goes
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Speaker 1: behind that. UM. And so I think I think number one. UM.
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Speaker 1: That's why when they say life is a is a journey,
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Speaker 1: not a destination, that's important for people to realize that
14:24
Speaker 1: if if, if success is a place for you, then
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Speaker 1: you're doing it wrong. Success can't be a place. Success
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Speaker 1: can't say I'm successful when I reached this place. That's
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Speaker 1: absolutely false. You're successful when you wake up every single
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Speaker 1: day with purpose. You're successful when you say, you know what,
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Speaker 1: this is what I want. But I love the process
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Speaker 1: that's taking me to get there, because I promise you,
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Speaker 1: once you get to whatever destination is there is, there's
14:50
Speaker 1: going to be something else. You're gonna stop, You're gonna
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Speaker 1: rest if you must, but then you're you know, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna say, oh I want you know this, now I
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Speaker 1: desire this, And then now there's gonna be an other journey. Right,
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Speaker 1: the journey doesn't stop. And so understand that, don't look
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Speaker 1: at somebody else's success and and and fall in love
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Speaker 1: with the highlight reel don't fall in love with you know,
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Speaker 1: the what they're posting on social media. Find out what
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Speaker 1: is the process? What process did they take to get
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Speaker 1: to that level? And you know what is that process?
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Speaker 1: And can you fall in love with the process. If
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Speaker 1: you cannot fall in love with the process, the success
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Speaker 1: isn't for you. Right. If you can't fall in love
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Speaker 1: with the process of what what what it entails to
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Speaker 1: to to attain what you want to attain, then you
15:38
Speaker 1: should be focused on something else every single day. Right.
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Speaker 1: My goal is to inspire and motivate people to be
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Speaker 1: the best that they could possibly be. Whether I gotta
15:48
Speaker 1: dime for it or not. I am that right in
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Speaker 1: my being. I am inspiration in my being. I am motivation.
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Speaker 1: And so it doesn't feel like work. I know people
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Speaker 1: say if you if you find, if you find at
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Speaker 1: that you love, you'll never work a day in your life.
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Speaker 1: And so when I say it doesn't feel like work,
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Speaker 1: I don't mean that there aren't times where I wake
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Speaker 1: up and I'm like, oh, I love it saying that
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Speaker 1: I still love it. Right, love, love, love and tire
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Speaker 1: not usually exclusive. Right, I still love it and still
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Speaker 1: be time right, still right, But just understand though that
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Speaker 1: once I get going, I'm like, this is this is
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Speaker 1: this is what I meant to do, so what I
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Speaker 1: love to do it. So you know, I mean, everybody
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Speaker 1: to who's who's after success, just know that it's a
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Speaker 1: journey to it and make sure you fall in love
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Speaker 1: with that journey. Yeah, it's so funny you say that,
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Speaker 1: because I always tell people I get up at four
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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning the Monday through Friday. I said,
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Speaker 1: I'm not happy getting up, I said, but I know
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Speaker 1: that's part of the journey. And I always tell us
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Speaker 1: share the story of people about my wife. One time
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Speaker 1: she asked me to she has to drive me to
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Speaker 1: the airport, you know, And she said, wow, you just
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Speaker 1: you just don't stop, dude. I said, well, it's not
16:53
Speaker 1: a question of me stopping. It's just this a part
16:54
Speaker 1: of our goals. And you put goals in place, you
16:56
Speaker 1: have to reach him. And she said, as she said,
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Speaker 1: do you get tired? And I told us that I'm
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Speaker 1: tired right now. Right, you know what I'm saying. And
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Speaker 1: I had to tell us because you knew you would
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Speaker 1: appreciate what I'm saying, because look, man, look just because
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Speaker 1: I'm moving forward, don't mean I don't want to lay
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Speaker 1: that out, but that's not part of the mission. And
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Speaker 1: then I want to throw you a compliment. I'm a
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Speaker 1: big rapper. I'm a big rapper friend, and my all
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Speaker 1: time favorite records there's Tupac tupodcast. Nobody can tell me
17:22
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17:24
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17:26
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17:29
Speaker 1: that you just laid about motivation and inspiration. Man, if
17:32
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17:36
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I just took off, took off because
17:43
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17:46
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17:48
Speaker 1: dumbed like that. You've been dumbed. I find that your motivator,
17:51
Speaker 1: haven't you. Absolutely Yeah, I've been. And you know, you
17:54
Speaker 1: know the funny thing about that is because you know,
17:56
Speaker 1: like I said, I am fighting, I am motivation. Uh.
17:59
Speaker 1: And so you know when I teach, and that's what
18:02
Speaker 1: makes me different. Right, when I teach finance, I'm not
18:05
Speaker 1: teaching fin I mean, finance could be boring, right, So
18:07
Speaker 1: I'm not teaching that from a perspective of uh, you know,
18:11
Speaker 1: you know one plus one equals too. Number one is
18:13
Speaker 1: the mindset right. And that's why my company is called
18:15
Speaker 1: mind Right Money Management, because you have to have your
18:18
Speaker 1: mind right before you get your money right. Um. But then,
18:21
Speaker 1: you know, I just believe that this. I believe that
18:25
Speaker 1: every single day that you wake up, it's a blessing.
18:29
Speaker 1: Everything else is a bonus, right, And so with that
18:32
Speaker 1: level of excitement, I need people to be excited. I
18:35
Speaker 1: want you to be excited with the opportunity to earn.
18:38
Speaker 1: I want you to be excited that you even have
18:39
Speaker 1: an opportunity to fulfill your dream. You don't. Don't only
18:43
Speaker 1: be excited because your dream is fulfilled. Be excited that
18:46
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity. There are a hundred and fifty
18:49
Speaker 1: thousand people that die every single day who wish they
18:54
Speaker 1: have the opportunity that you have. And so I just
18:56
Speaker 1: wake up inspired and motivated and thankful to God that
19:01
Speaker 1: I have another opportunity to talk to people. And so
19:04
Speaker 1: you know, you know, uh, I don't drink coffee. So
19:07
Speaker 1: this energy that you get right now, this is this
19:09
Speaker 1: is this is not more water, This is h two. Oh,
19:12
Speaker 1: I don't drink coffee. But it's just an excitement. And
19:14
Speaker 1: that's why they call me the financial motivator because you know,
19:17
Speaker 1: I have a special way of of using that excitement
19:21
Speaker 1: for life to teach you about finance. Because I also
19:24
Speaker 1: believe that abundances our birth right, um, and so it's
19:27
Speaker 1: not something that we should be begging for. It isn't
19:30
Speaker 1: something that we should be compromising ourselves for. It is
19:34
Speaker 1: our actual birth right. And the more you can get
19:37
Speaker 1: to the money, the more you can get to your
19:39
Speaker 1: to to the money, the more you can get to
19:41
Speaker 1: the purpose. Right. So when you start leading with purpose
19:44
Speaker 1: and you start doing and being who you are every
19:47
Speaker 1: single day, that is what's going to allow you to
19:50
Speaker 1: uh uh command the income that you want to command.
19:53
Speaker 1: And the more income, right, I know, Biggie said, more money,
19:56
Speaker 1: more problems. But the more income, the more impact. More income,
20:01
Speaker 1: more impact. So that's what it's about. It's about having
20:04
Speaker 1: motivating people to get to the bag, right, motivating people
20:08
Speaker 1: to get to that financial abundance that's their birthright, so
20:11
Speaker 1: that way they can have more impact. Right, I've been
20:14
Speaker 1: broke before, Right, I've had I've been a spaces where
20:17
Speaker 1: I'm counting and figuring out How'm gonna pay bills. I'm
20:20
Speaker 1: not my hundred percent self right, I'm not giving you
20:23
Speaker 1: all of ash cash if I'm trying to figure out
20:26
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna rob Peter to pay Paul. But but
20:28
Speaker 1: but I promise you when I when I, when I'm
20:30
Speaker 1: in my purpose and the income is matching the impact,
20:33
Speaker 1: I get the impact more. And so it's if that
20:36
Speaker 1: motivation pizzas, that'd be very necessary. And it's very by
20:40
Speaker 1: the way, I don't drink call for either. I don't
20:42
Speaker 1: drink tea called not because I just don't like the taste.
20:46
Speaker 1: People do it I'm proud of and so so because
20:49
Speaker 1: again it's my I get up because my body tell
20:52
Speaker 1: me to get up. But I always tell people this
20:54
Speaker 1: the reason I get up because I have a reason
20:56
Speaker 1: to get up a lot of people just go to
20:57
Speaker 1: bed ash. They're just diving bed and and then and
21:01
Speaker 1: then when the lob go off, they're mad or they
21:03
Speaker 1: don't know. But when that lob go off, what drags
21:05
Speaker 1: me out of bed is that I know what I
21:07
Speaker 1: have to do, and it's by planning for success and
21:11
Speaker 1: about putting forth that effort. And so when you, like
21:13
Speaker 1: you said, when biggest say, more money and more problems.
21:15
Speaker 1: All he's saying is, look, you can get more money,
21:18
Speaker 1: which means that you're gonna have to put more effort
21:20
Speaker 1: on what you're gonna do with it. And that's what
21:22
Speaker 1: this conversation that we're having is about effort. Everybody wants
21:25
Speaker 1: to be a great athlete, everybody wants to be a
21:27
Speaker 1: great singer. Everybody wants to be rich. Everybody wants a
21:31
Speaker 1: big house. Taxes come with that, electrical bills come with that, gas,
21:35
Speaker 1: all of it's much more. You know. I remember when
21:38
Speaker 1: I was reading John Sally when he had his house.
21:40
Speaker 1: He bought the big house in Detroit. He said he
21:42
Speaker 1: had like a seventeen thousand dollars electric bill. Guess what,
21:46
Speaker 1: he bought a big house that who came with it?
21:49
Speaker 1: He kept the lights on. He all those bad rules
21:51
Speaker 1: have to be all that stuff come with it. And
21:54
Speaker 1: that's what more money, more problems. As a motivator, what
21:57
Speaker 1: do you what do you tell people who get straighted
22:00
Speaker 1: when the dream isn't what they thought it would be
22:03
Speaker 1: when they arrived. Yeah, I think I think that. So
22:07
Speaker 1: the first thing I tell them, uh, be grateful, be
22:11
Speaker 1: grateful that you know that this is. This isn't what
22:13
Speaker 1: you want, right, it is. It is as important to
22:16
Speaker 1: know what you don't want as it is to know
22:19
Speaker 1: what you do want, right, because knowing what you don't
22:21
Speaker 1: want will get you to what you want faster. There
22:24
Speaker 1: are many things that that I thought I wanted. I
22:26
Speaker 1: was like, oh this is Oh, this is it. I'm
22:28
Speaker 1: gonna put my blood, sweat and tears. And then I
22:31
Speaker 1: get to this destination and I'm like, oh that's it.
22:34
Speaker 1: But but now it kind of it kind of weeds
22:37
Speaker 1: out all of the all of the all of the things.
22:39
Speaker 1: And so I don't I don't um, you know, I
22:41
Speaker 1: don't think it's a loss. Right. A loss isn't a loss,
22:44
Speaker 1: it's a lesson, right, and so it's not a loss,
22:46
Speaker 1: it's really a lesson. And so for those who get frustrated,
22:49
Speaker 1: I think I think frustration, uh is a great tool
22:52
Speaker 1: if you use it right, right, Because some people use
22:56
Speaker 1: frustration as a way to stop. Some people use frustration
22:59
Speaker 1: as a way to give up. Some people use frustration
23:02
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, I'm not doing this no more.
23:04
Speaker 1: But you need to know you have to use frustration
23:06
Speaker 1: as a barometer. Right, I'll give I'll give your example,
23:10
Speaker 1: if you ever are driving late night on any any
23:13
Speaker 1: highway right and for whatever reasons, you get tired and
23:17
Speaker 1: you start veering left, what's gonna happen. You're gonna You're
23:20
Speaker 1: gonna run across those ridgets in the road. It's gonna
23:23
Speaker 1: wake you up. It's gonna make that noise. It's gonna
23:26
Speaker 1: wake you up. Imagine if the ridges weren't there, the
23:28
Speaker 1: ridges weren't there, you'll probably hit the divider, You'll you'll
23:32
Speaker 1: swirl around, your cause a bad accident. And so those
23:35
Speaker 1: ridgets on the side. When you get tired and you
23:37
Speaker 1: start you start veering left or beering right, it's a
23:40
Speaker 1: it's a it's a wake up call. It's like, yo,
23:42
Speaker 1: wake up you you you gotta get up. You're about
23:45
Speaker 1: the crash. Frustration is that negative negativity, right, negative feelings?
23:50
Speaker 1: It's that, it's not it's it's not for you to
23:52
Speaker 1: scoff at it. It is a It is a barometer.
23:55
Speaker 1: When you start doing something, you start to get frustrated
23:58
Speaker 1: and you're like, I hate they just don't stop. Just
24:02
Speaker 1: take it as a sign that you need to regroup.
24:04
Speaker 1: That the negativity, that negative feeling that you have is
24:09
Speaker 1: telling you that you are on the wrong track, and
24:13
Speaker 1: now you gotta figure out how do I how do
24:15
Speaker 1: I go back to the middle, How do I go
24:17
Speaker 1: back to this road? So I could go in the
24:19
Speaker 1: in the direction I need to go. And So anybody
24:21
Speaker 1: who's feeling frustration, good, good that you're frustrating. You eren't
24:25
Speaker 1: care about this thing or is you're not supposed to
24:27
Speaker 1: be doing it. So now take a step back, analyze
24:30
Speaker 1: why are you frustrated? How can you release this frustration?
24:34
Speaker 1: And and and what should you be doing? Because now
24:36
Speaker 1: that you know what you don't want to do or
24:38
Speaker 1: don't like to do, what are the things that you
24:40
Speaker 1: should be doing. Yeah, it's two things. Thank you for that.
24:43
Speaker 1: That the blessing. I'm gonna I'm gonna take that little
24:45
Speaker 1: clip out and put it on my social with them
24:47
Speaker 1: promote you, my brother. But the other ways you're promoting yourself.
24:50
Speaker 1: You have the Ash Cash Show or Daily Life financial
24:52
Speaker 1: news show with Strange Money through Friday eight am the
24:55
Speaker 1: nine a m. Eastern standard type on your YouTube channel
24:59
Speaker 1: and it provides what we just hearing, motivation and advice
25:01
Speaker 1: on finance, entrepreneurship and more. And then I recently appeared
25:04
Speaker 1: on the Vault with ash Cast without Town and Labels
25:09
Speaker 1: stepped in and with the crew, where he speaks for
25:12
Speaker 1: successful taste makers and entrepreneurs on their mindset. When you
25:16
Speaker 1: started tapping into my mindset, what was your work away? Yeah? Man,
25:21
Speaker 1: so so it was first of all, it was a classic.
25:24
Speaker 1: It was an honor to even just be in your
25:26
Speaker 1: presence because you know, as I said on the show,
25:29
Speaker 1: there was so there was so much. I'm always the
25:32
Speaker 1: behind the scenes guy, like, right, what what's making this?
25:34
Speaker 1: What's making this tick? Um? But when I started tapping
25:37
Speaker 1: into your mindset, the one thing that that stood out
25:40
Speaker 1: to me, um, is that it was your resilience, right,
25:44
Speaker 1: was your ability to not allow nothing, honestly, right, nothing
25:49
Speaker 1: to to stop you. That you set a goal, right,
25:52
Speaker 1: and you see the vision for that goal, and you
25:54
Speaker 1: go after that goal regardless, right, even when they're obstacles.
25:58
Speaker 1: Because you've had a lot of obstacles in your life.
26:01
Speaker 1: There were things that the normal person, right, and I'm
26:04
Speaker 1: using normal as a you know, just as the word right,
26:08
Speaker 1: the normal person would have given up given the obstacles,
26:13
Speaker 1: given the things that that have happened in your life. Um,
26:16
Speaker 1: but but but but but your mindset you know, I
26:19
Speaker 1: don't even think you understand what giving up means to
26:21
Speaker 1: be honest, right, because there were even moments in our
26:25
Speaker 1: interview that you said something that that the normal persons
26:28
Speaker 1: would have been more emotionally attached to it, like oh
26:32
Speaker 1: this happened, right, But but she was like, oh yeah, yeah,
26:35
Speaker 1: it was just that, you know, and I was like,
26:37
Speaker 1: whoa like again? So so I think I think I
26:40
Speaker 1: think that mindset of um, you know, you know, you know,
26:44
Speaker 1: resiliency that I know that the goal is this, and
26:48
Speaker 1: I know on my way to that goal, they're gonna
26:51
Speaker 1: be some some obstacles. They're gonna be some roadblocks, they're
26:54
Speaker 1: gonna be some dechoes, they're gonna be some things. But
26:56
Speaker 1: that's not gonna stop me. That's actually right, Like fail
27:00
Speaker 1: is actually part of success. That's that that that that
27:03
Speaker 1: the failures, the roadblocks, the things that you might stumble
27:06
Speaker 1: on a part of your role to success. Or Resiliency
27:11
Speaker 1: is that word that I would definitely attribute to you. Well,
27:13
Speaker 1: thank you. You know. The beauty of you is that,
27:16
Speaker 1: uh my my blessing is that meeting people who um
27:21
Speaker 1: make me better and being interviewed value, sitting around your crew.
27:25
Speaker 1: I walked away a better person, a better leader. Uh. Motivation,
27:29
Speaker 1: because sometimes you get trapped into rhythms. And that's why
27:32
Speaker 1: I always tell people to experiences. Why people tell you
27:34
Speaker 1: to go on vacation, so go to different destinations so
27:37
Speaker 1: you can see things. And it's uh, either frustrate you,
27:40
Speaker 1: which I love that because I love two words that
27:42
Speaker 1: you've talked about. One word you say, frustration that people
27:44
Speaker 1: don't understand the value of that. Selfishness. On my side,
27:47
Speaker 1: people don't understand the value that because they take it
27:49
Speaker 1: negative and to too negative words frustration and selfishness were
27:54
Speaker 1: really those are the keys to you of success because
27:56
Speaker 1: you selfishness is denying yourself and in advantage of every
28:01
Speaker 1: every hour in the twenty four hours. That's selfish. Just say, man,
28:04
Speaker 1: look if I gotta get it done, I gotta get
28:05
Speaker 1: it done. That's overcoming the frustration. And most people say
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Speaker 1: I can't get it done because I don't have enough time.
28:11
Speaker 1: I never understood what that meant. Not enough time? Are
28:15
Speaker 1: you awake? Do you have your help God bless you
28:17
Speaker 1: to get up? You have enough time? Set some goals
28:20
Speaker 1: and what we did done. But the number one thing
28:22
Speaker 1: about it, and that's why I'm recommending people to, you know,
28:24
Speaker 1: just see your your show The Strange Money through Friday
28:27
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28:30
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28:35
Speaker 1: get with you because I got these little links I'd
28:37
Speaker 1: like to drop on my social media and send people
28:40
Speaker 1: can send you questions and let it drop into your
28:43
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28:45
Speaker 1: see how you're affecting people asked because you're an important
28:48
Speaker 1: individual in our society. You're nonstopping. My complimented about you
28:52
Speaker 1: and being the biggie smallest of financial motivation was as
28:56
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29:13
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29:15
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29:17
Speaker 1: what's your future? Next step goes I mean, I mean
29:20
Speaker 1: the fure, the future The future was uh, Emmy Awards
29:24
Speaker 1: talk show. But now the future is the guy right
29:27
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29:32
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29:41
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29:46
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29:49
Speaker 1: continuing to do what I do every single day, but
29:52
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29:54
Speaker 1: the beauty of you know what I do. I have
29:57
Speaker 1: eight books that I've read. I'm writing more books. Um.
30:01
Speaker 1: You know, I have a daily finance show. I have
30:03
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30:07
Speaker 1: You know, the goal is that it's just it's just
30:08
Speaker 1: to continue and reach more people. And so you know,
30:11
Speaker 1: I'm I might have to reach other hundred thousand or
30:13
Speaker 1: a million people, but how do I have How do
30:16
Speaker 1: I get that reach of millions? Yeah, So it's just
30:19
Speaker 1: to continue to do the same thing I'm doing, but
30:22
Speaker 1: on a on a larger scale. Well, you know, I
30:24
Speaker 1: remember a couple of years ago a guy came in
30:26
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30:30
Speaker 1: He said, you what you say You're going to feel stadiums.
30:33
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you this, Ash, When I feel
30:35
Speaker 1: that stadium, You're gonna be on stage with me. Brother.
30:37
Speaker 1: That's how much I respect you. Uh you know, I
30:41
Speaker 1: see as a younger version of me with with different
30:45
Speaker 1: goals that are that are working for you, and I
30:47
Speaker 1: want them to be different from mine. But more importantly,
30:49
Speaker 1: I want to share you in any platform that somebody says,
30:53
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30:55
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30:57
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31:03
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31:17
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31:19
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31:32
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31:37
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31:41
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31:44
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31:47
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31:52
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Speaker 1: My next guest is a celebrity. She's just celebrity. Fair
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Speaker 1: for me, Fair for me. But next yes is Michael Hyatt.
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Speaker 1: She was born in England to just making parents. At
35:29
Speaker 1: the age of ten, she immigrated to the United States
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Speaker 1: with a mother and two siblings, living in Maryland and
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Speaker 1: later Washington, d c. She went on to study acting
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Speaker 1: at HBCU Howard University for undergraduate degree. Numerous television credits
35:43
Speaker 1: include Get This, The West Wing, The Wire, The Kill
35:48
Speaker 1: Point Two, Detective Ray Donald, Crazy Ex, Girl Friends, and
35:52
Speaker 1: most recently, That's Just a Few. I'm not Gonna act like,
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Speaker 1: that's it, It's just a few. She was recently seen
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Speaker 1: I just saw on TV in the movie with Denzel
35:59
Speaker 1: wash and The Little Things. She is currently starring in
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Speaker 1: the fourth season of f X hit series Snowfall. You
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Speaker 1: gotta watch it. It airs every Wednesday at ten pm
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Speaker 1: on f f X. Please working the money making conversations.
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy the interviewer. I'm so happy to see
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Speaker 1: this beautiful smile. Michael Hyatt. First of all, just keep smiling,
36:22
Speaker 1: smile for this whole interview, because I'm never gonna see
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Speaker 1: you smile this much in any of the roles that
36:27
Speaker 1: you do. But you're doing so brilliantly, and you have
36:30
Speaker 1: this beautiful smile. First of all, your your beautiful woman
36:33
Speaker 1: personality wise, and things you've done in your career. Let's
36:36
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about Let's get started. Because of I'm
36:39
Speaker 1: a big advocate of HBCUs and Howard University is right there.
36:45
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Harvard University of HBCUs. Tell
36:49
Speaker 1: me why you went there and walk away with some
36:50
Speaker 1: of your experience because we all know the Vice President
36:52
Speaker 1: of United States is on Howard Graduate. Talk about that experience,
36:56
Speaker 1: Michael Um Howard was, in hindsight, a tremendous experience. Um.
37:07
Speaker 1: You know, I, I, my mom went went to Howard University,
37:11
Speaker 1: and I I was not a good student in high
37:17
Speaker 1: school at all. I was you know, I was a
37:20
Speaker 1: D average at best and I barely got out of
37:23
Speaker 1: high school. And so it was, it was, it was
37:30
Speaker 1: it was my mother's legacy that really got me into Howard.
37:35
Speaker 1: And I didn't really appreciate it until because I just
37:39
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking like that. I was a silly teenager. Um.
37:44
Speaker 1: And when I got there, the then being of the
37:47
Speaker 1: school said to me, look, let's just be real. You
37:50
Speaker 1: are here because of your mother, but you would stay
37:54
Speaker 1: here because of you, So you need to make a decision.
37:58
Speaker 1: And I walked into the theater in ira Aldridge Theater
38:02
Speaker 1: at Howard and immediately the energy of the space just
38:09
Speaker 1: took me over and I knew that this is where
38:13
Speaker 1: I belonged, and my world, my consciousness changed immediately. Um,
38:21
Speaker 1: I had found myself. I had found my calling. I
38:24
Speaker 1: had found where I belonged. And you know, it was
38:28
Speaker 1: it was tough academically just for me to get a
38:33
Speaker 1: grip and catch a clue about what was needed for
38:35
Speaker 1: me from me but I will tell you, you you know,
38:41
Speaker 1: And and then I I joined society, deal with society
38:47
Speaker 1: divine intelligent, versatile artists and just had so many wonderful
38:52
Speaker 1: experiences as an African woman surrounded by African people. I
38:59
Speaker 1: did not understand its depth in my spirit until I
39:04
Speaker 1: went to graduate school at n y U, which is
39:09
Speaker 1: completelyence um, you know or whatever. And it was when
39:17
Speaker 1: I showed up there that I realized just how much
39:21
Speaker 1: I got from Howard University. And I have a son
39:26
Speaker 1: who's ten. He's going to an HBCU, may not be Howard,
39:31
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever he would be, because I understand
39:36
Speaker 1: how important it is for my African man son to
39:40
Speaker 1: be surrounded by himself um, to live and swim in
39:46
Speaker 1: that power, that greatness before he sets out into the world.
39:52
Speaker 1: It was a tremendous difference and it has served me
39:54
Speaker 1: throughout my life. And which is you've lived and living
39:59
Speaker 1: a beautiful life before we get X. You know when
40:02
Speaker 1: when when we talk about gifts, because I talked about
40:04
Speaker 1: that at the top, you know, And you said, Richard,
40:07
Speaker 1: I went to college and basically at to college because
40:09
Speaker 1: my mom provided with an opportunity. But I got there.
40:11
Speaker 1: It was either single swim and single swim tied to
40:13
Speaker 1: my efforts, but your talents. When did you really realize
40:18
Speaker 1: that this this acting? And then in the college, but
40:22
Speaker 1: then when you left college when it really starts sinking.
40:25
Speaker 1: And this is what I want to do for the
40:27
Speaker 1: rest of my life. Um, I you know, I am
40:35
Speaker 1: a late bloomer. I have been surrounded by the art
40:42
Speaker 1: my whole life. My father was an actor in Jamaica
40:46
Speaker 1: and in England, and my mother is a museum director.
40:51
Speaker 1: So I was surrounded by artists that just a what
40:54
Speaker 1: it was justin is in my life. And you know,
40:59
Speaker 1: then I, you know, went to Howard and I was
41:02
Speaker 1: in this world. And then when I finished Howard, it
41:07
Speaker 1: was just it just was I didn't know what else
41:13
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, I knew how to survive, because
41:15
Speaker 1: every artist needs to know how to survive. But it
41:18
Speaker 1: was just a clear understanding from my my gut. It
41:23
Speaker 1: was knowing it was a calling. I knew that it was,
41:27
Speaker 1: but I didn't know how. And I don't know that
41:32
Speaker 1: any artist knows the how. And I always tell people
41:36
Speaker 1: you don't need to know how, you don't need to
41:39
Speaker 1: know when how cool. You just need to say yes
41:45
Speaker 1: to whatever it is, your truth is and by saying
41:50
Speaker 1: yes you, it will flow through you. That is how
41:54
Speaker 1: I have found. I didn't calculate any of this. I
41:58
Speaker 1: knew that I would be success, but the how I
42:02
Speaker 1: had no idea or the when I had no idea,
42:05
Speaker 1: And it has been a roller coaster, There's no doubt
42:08
Speaker 1: about it. I have learned as I have gone and off,
42:10
Speaker 1: and I have learned the demons within myself that I
42:16
Speaker 1: had to heal in order from me to embrace the
42:20
Speaker 1: success that was willingly waiting for me. So it has
42:24
Speaker 1: been a journey emotionally, spiritually, and artistically from me to
42:29
Speaker 1: get to where I am. But I always knew in
42:33
Speaker 1: my being where I belonged. Wow. And and when we
42:37
Speaker 1: look at your care I'm talking to Michael Hyatt, she
42:39
Speaker 1: star one of the one of the many stars of
42:42
Speaker 1: the series Snowfaller's or Effects that you can watch every
42:46
Speaker 1: Wednesday a tempm. Your character, real estate agent, getting you
42:53
Speaker 1: know your son? Drug dealing? Do you know your husband?
42:57
Speaker 1: Community activists? Um, we said, the setting is I know
43:03
Speaker 1: l A really well. I lived in l A fifteen
43:05
Speaker 1: years so when you say south Central, I knew exactly
43:08
Speaker 1: what you're talking about when you say Limert Park, I
43:10
Speaker 1: knew exactly what you're talking about, So the story lines
43:14
Speaker 1: made sense to me. You know, it's often times sad
43:16
Speaker 1: to me because I knew exactly all those communities were
43:20
Speaker 1: affected by crack and this and it follows basically a
43:23
Speaker 1: true storyline where the government was selling drugs that they
43:27
Speaker 1: sold in the black community in this case South Central
43:31
Speaker 1: Watts and the Jungle and used that to buy fund
43:35
Speaker 1: of Nickaragren war efforts. And I didn't care. Now let's
43:41
Speaker 1: talk about your character and and build and why is
43:45
Speaker 1: it important? Because this whole serious bore off the backs
43:48
Speaker 1: of John Singleton, who was no longer with us. Let's
43:50
Speaker 1: talk about your relationship with John singletons, how you were
43:53
Speaker 1: brought into the project, and then let's talk about the
43:55
Speaker 1: growth of your characters the first three seasons leading into
43:58
Speaker 1: the fourth season. Um, the job came as a simple audition.
44:06
Speaker 1: It's how I've gotten most of the work that I've done.
44:09
Speaker 1: It was, you know, my manager said, you know, there's
44:12
Speaker 1: something coming along my table and I think you should
44:14
Speaker 1: look into it. So I auditioned. I had no I
44:17
Speaker 1: mean I heard that John was was associated with it,
44:23
Speaker 1: but you know, I didn't know John Singleton at the time.
44:25
Speaker 1: I certainly was a fan, as so many people are,
44:28
Speaker 1: but that in and of itself, you know, it was
44:31
Speaker 1: a job. I was unemployed and I was looking for
44:33
Speaker 1: a job. You know. I I take the romance out
44:36
Speaker 1: of it because I think sometimes the romance creates a
44:41
Speaker 1: separation between the artist and the work. So I I
44:46
Speaker 1: try my best when I'm telling my story to take
44:49
Speaker 1: all the fluff out of it so that it is
44:53
Speaker 1: recognizable to my fellow artists, and it it is perceived
44:58
Speaker 1: as attainable because it absolut it we is. Um. So
45:02
Speaker 1: I what Once I got the job, I needed to
45:07
Speaker 1: understand because I had been a part of a story
45:13
Speaker 1: like this before, you know, being the Wire. I wanted
45:16
Speaker 1: to have an understanding of where is this going? Um?
45:19
Speaker 1: And John was so wonderful and he came into my
45:24
Speaker 1: trailer and sat me down and said, Okay, this is
45:27
Speaker 1: the arc of her story. We don't know the new
45:29
Speaker 1: you know the details. You know, we flitch out with
45:31
Speaker 1: flush out with every seat with every episode. Um, but
45:34
Speaker 1: this is the arc. And once I understood, Once I
45:38
Speaker 1: understood that this woman represented his own life, the women
45:47
Speaker 1: in his life, various women in his own life, in
45:50
Speaker 1: his own world. That I felt more comfortable because I
45:56
Speaker 1: know that I'm connecting to some that many people will
46:01
Speaker 1: understand and and will will recognize and identify with. That
46:06
Speaker 1: was important to me. UM. So you know, once once
46:12
Speaker 1: John laid it out, I was on board. And and
46:16
Speaker 1: I mean this, this role Sissy speaks to every mother.
46:22
Speaker 1: This is the experience. Whether whether the issue is UH.
46:27
Speaker 1: You know that your son is dealing you know, crack
46:30
Speaker 1: or cocaine. Those are just symptoms, Those are just side things.
46:34
Speaker 1: Really we're dealing with the struggle of um, the evolution
46:43
Speaker 1: of your child, you know, the transition from childhood to manhood,
46:49
Speaker 1: the transition from you setting his path to him taking
46:57
Speaker 1: the reins and creating his own path. And who hasn't
47:01
Speaker 1: fallen and needed to get up in whatever way, and
47:05
Speaker 1: and the journey of how that works. And then the
47:08
Speaker 1: journey of the woman herself. Who is she outside of
47:14
Speaker 1: being this young man's mother? Now he is at an
47:19
Speaker 1: age you know, he once you send them off to college,
47:25
Speaker 1: the empty nest syndrome, the who am I outside of
47:29
Speaker 1: being the mother? And then the journey of of of
47:32
Speaker 1: of how do you navigate continuing to because you don't
47:37
Speaker 1: throw them away? Right, how do you navigate continuing to
47:40
Speaker 1: hold on to them but needing to let them go?
47:44
Speaker 1: And then the journey of a relationship with with the
47:49
Speaker 1: man that you have known since you were a young child,
47:52
Speaker 1: a young teenager. Uh and and then that relationship falls
47:57
Speaker 1: apart and then it comes back together again. All of
48:00
Speaker 1: these beautiful things are our journeys that every woman can
48:06
Speaker 1: relate to. And it's tough, it's it's it's it's hard
48:12
Speaker 1: to do these scenes a lot of times. But I
48:16
Speaker 1: know that I'm speaking to every aspect of my womanhood
48:19
Speaker 1: and many aspects of my sister's womanhood. So it's a
48:24
Speaker 1: journey that I welcome. Well, you do a fantastic job.
48:27
Speaker 1: And you know, we we we talk about these characters.
48:31
Speaker 1: You know, when I look at the it feels like
48:33
Speaker 1: I'm watching Every time I watch an episode of it
48:35
Speaker 1: feels like I'm watching a short movie. It's the way
48:38
Speaker 1: it's shot, the greediness, the language. You know, if you
48:43
Speaker 1: have a problem with the inward, don't look at it,
48:45
Speaker 1: don't don't watch no fault. Okay, if they there, there's
48:48
Speaker 1: there's a dope language. And I'm just talking because a
48:50
Speaker 1: lot of people see cable. They don't. But that's that's
48:52
Speaker 1: why I love about this series because, as they say,
48:55
Speaker 1: the script is real, the toneage is real, the characterizations
49:00
Speaker 1: there is. There is violence on this and and I've
49:03
Speaker 1: never seen a black drama like this on television, and
49:07
Speaker 1: I think it's unique, you know, like because why I
49:09
Speaker 1: was something different. You know, Wire was the different different,
49:13
Speaker 1: but this right here was it was different because it
49:16
Speaker 1: was tied to a family, and you guys are this family.
49:19
Speaker 1: And that's why I relate to the parenting aspect of
49:22
Speaker 1: what you're saying. What the where The Wire was about
49:26
Speaker 1: a lot of different people being caught up in the drug.
49:28
Speaker 1: It was about politicians. It was about the police and
49:31
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and then how they would manipulate numbers
49:34
Speaker 1: and say they were doing good and they weren't doing good.
49:36
Speaker 1: This is about you in particular, cause you talked Alter,
49:40
Speaker 1: I would do whatever I need to do to get
49:43
Speaker 1: my son out. It's about you and your relationship with
49:48
Speaker 1: your son. Please tell us about that relationship, Um, Franklin.
49:59
Speaker 1: Is you know as a mother, Um, you you watch
50:07
Speaker 1: your child grow. You can see their greatness, Um from
50:14
Speaker 1: very young right, Um. And Sissy has always seen Franklin's greatness.
50:22
Speaker 1: She always knew she saw her husband in her child.
50:26
Speaker 1: She saw the leader that her husband, Alton is in
50:30
Speaker 1: her son, and she knew it was only a matter
50:33
Speaker 1: of time that he would do great things. UM, and
50:39
Speaker 1: her whole life, she's been invested in that reality. So
50:46
Speaker 1: it is heartbreaking that when she when she sees him
50:55
Speaker 1: take this turn, M and you see this struggle UM
51:07
Speaker 1: with him constantly trying to you know, we talked about
51:11
Speaker 1: the change from episode two to episode three, UM, where
51:17
Speaker 1: when she decides I'm going to help you, you know,
51:21
Speaker 1: because she tried. She tried to do the moral thing
51:26
Speaker 1: of walking away and shutting the door and saying I
51:29
Speaker 1: am not with you, UM, and it didn't work. You know,
51:35
Speaker 1: you tried. You tried a tactic, you're trying to save
51:37
Speaker 1: your child, and it didn't work. This is not a
51:39
Speaker 1: woman who is going to walk away from her child
51:42
Speaker 1: for real, for real. And when he got shot, it
51:45
Speaker 1: was it was a natural she went to his aid
51:49
Speaker 1: and now and there was a discussion that that we
51:52
Speaker 1: didn't film that. There was a discussion with Franklin and
51:54
Speaker 1: Sissy where Franklin says, Mom, trying to better our commune city.
52:00
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do the great things that we deserve,
52:08
Speaker 1: and I understood that, and it's a nice step way
52:13
Speaker 1: to get there. But one nobody knew that this is
52:17
Speaker 1: what it would turn into. Franklin certainly didn't. We had
52:20
Speaker 1: no conscious he had no nobody in the country had
52:23
Speaker 1: any idea that crack was going to evolve in the
52:26
Speaker 1: way it does. We didn't have. This was at first
52:29
Speaker 1: of its kind. So um, I understood what he was
52:35
Speaker 1: doing and why he was doing it because it follows
52:38
Speaker 1: the same path as his as his father, and I
52:42
Speaker 1: was there with Elton during the Black Panther journey, so
52:46
Speaker 1: I get it. So now it is I understand the
52:49
Speaker 1: core of what you're doing. Let me help you try
52:52
Speaker 1: my best to do what I can to help you
52:56
Speaker 1: heal this and get out of this so that we
52:58
Speaker 1: can get back to our lives. And it's just that
53:01
Speaker 1: constant investing in your child because you believe in their
53:05
Speaker 1: greatness if we can just get out of this mess,
53:10
Speaker 1: you know. And that's just the constant back and forth
53:14
Speaker 1: that happens with this family, with so many families. You know,
53:18
Speaker 1: the beauty of this series, and you know we're talking
53:21
Speaker 1: about your family, but you have Irene who plays the
53:23
Speaker 1: investigative reporter that her character builds this season and when
53:27
Speaker 1: she gets information about what's really going on. And like
53:30
Speaker 1: I said, you know, in a way, Franklin is caught
53:33
Speaker 1: up in something that that was bigger than him. He
53:36
Speaker 1: didn't know about what the government was doing. He didn't
53:39
Speaker 1: know that this was a calculated fundraising activity that the
53:44
Speaker 1: reagular administration back it was tied to Oliver North. You
53:48
Speaker 1: know all these names you could you can flip through
53:49
Speaker 1: the pages, just the stories right there, Oliver dorth He,
53:52
Speaker 1: the one Helm, the whole, Nikko rober drug and selling
53:56
Speaker 1: drugs and guns and for those campaigns and wrong Reagan.
54:00
Speaker 1: They knew about all this going on. So again the
54:02
Speaker 1: black community was being used. Yes they were selling drugs,
54:06
Speaker 1: but guess what. They were selling drugs and being fed
54:09
Speaker 1: drugs cheap drugs by the way on the counturally low
54:13
Speaker 1: prices so they can so they can for a military effort.
54:17
Speaker 1: And so you had Irene, then you have Teddy Gustavo
54:20
Speaker 1: who's crazy, and then you have all these that that's
54:23
Speaker 1: what makes a series so unique because I don't have
54:26
Speaker 1: to focus so much on your family and poor Leon
54:29
Speaker 1: he's trapped, he got Scully, his situation, all the just
54:32
Speaker 1: born through all these characters. It's all these characters. They
54:35
Speaker 1: are so colorful that it's really, like I said, it's
54:39
Speaker 1: like watching a movie and it's so intense. And you know,
54:43
Speaker 1: the scene where you was caught up with the police officer,
54:47
Speaker 1: you know that was I felt so nervous for you, Michael.
54:51
Speaker 1: I felt I felt like, oh my god. You know,
54:55
Speaker 1: talk about that moment, not revealing exactly what went on,
54:59
Speaker 1: but my ah, you you saw that scene and I
55:03
Speaker 1: thought something bad is was gonna go down. It's a
55:06
Speaker 1: bad tea go down, but not like we expected. But
55:08
Speaker 1: talk about preparing yourself for those moments because if X
55:13
Speaker 1: is allowed to see no snowfall, to keep it real,
55:16
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, um, preparing for that, preparing for anything that
55:26
Speaker 1: comes up in this gut wrenching show. You really just
55:33
Speaker 1: have to well I just I can't think about it
55:39
Speaker 1: too much really. I mean, in order to do this
55:44
Speaker 1: kind of work for me, I have to throw ego
55:50
Speaker 1: out the window, um and just allow myself to be
55:57
Speaker 1: very raw, um and whatever comes from that is what's
56:03
Speaker 1: going to come. And and in in that I trust
56:07
Speaker 1: that I know that it is the truth because I'm
56:09
Speaker 1: not trying to do anything. Um, I learned my lines.
56:16
Speaker 1: I understand obviously, I understand the story. That The wonderful
56:19
Speaker 1: thing about this story, um, is this this show is
56:24
Speaker 1: that it is filled with some tremendous writers. So it
56:28
Speaker 1: makes the work so easy because I don't have to
56:34
Speaker 1: second guess what's on the page. I can fully lend
56:37
Speaker 1: myself to the words on the page because they right
56:42
Speaker 1: so beautifully, they write so truthfully. Um, And then you
56:46
Speaker 1: know what, it is uncomfortable. You know, this scene has
56:52
Speaker 1: already been aired so I can talk about it. It
56:56
Speaker 1: was incredibly uncomfortable. It was all night. It was take
57:00
Speaker 1: after take. It was you know, in those damn handcuffs
57:04
Speaker 1: and in a graveyard. It was just how did they
57:09
Speaker 1: shoot you? Bang in your head though? When you was
57:13
Speaker 1: in the back seat, in the back seat of this thing,
57:16
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over. I think I
57:20
Speaker 1: had a little nugget, but shoot for a few more
57:24
Speaker 1: days or something. So it was fine. And they kept saying, Michael,
57:27
Speaker 1: are you okay? Okay, I'm like just because because soon
57:30
Speaker 1: as I said, you know, because you know, I've cast
57:33
Speaker 1: some man, I've been fortunate to be part of production
57:35
Speaker 1: like that, and I go, she banged her head? Okay,
57:38
Speaker 1: how many times did he shoot this scene her banging
57:40
Speaker 1: because he applies to break? So I knew that was
57:43
Speaker 1: like in my mind, I watched this team and said
57:45
Speaker 1: when because it shot it this way. No, I think
57:48
Speaker 1: she banged her head. I tried my best. I mean,
57:52
Speaker 1: you know, they don't have me doing a bunch of
57:53
Speaker 1: stunts and stuff, but I mean, you know, it's it's
57:56
Speaker 1: just I don't I don't want the buffers of the
57:59
Speaker 1: stunt doubles are all that stuff. If I can do it,
58:02
Speaker 1: if it's remotely doable, I'm just gonna do it because
58:06
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just more truthful that way, you know. Unfortunately,
58:09
Speaker 1: when I got to see you know, all of the
58:11
Speaker 1: North on trial, you know about this whole situation where
58:16
Speaker 1: that's why I said that you're taking a true story
58:19
Speaker 1: and putting in a dramatic series and you playing it.
58:22
Speaker 1: Some characters may be redeveloped, so may be fictional, but
58:25
Speaker 1: the beauty of it, this is a story about a
58:28
Speaker 1: mother's passionate love for her son, trying to get him
58:32
Speaker 1: away out and in the process is she wrong? Is
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58:44
Speaker 1: to those bookstore owners that was really cold. But but
58:49
Speaker 1: tell us is Sincy are you are you wrong for
58:52
Speaker 1: leading them in that direction? Are you just so determined
58:55
Speaker 1: to get him out? Boy? Oh, that's that's a deep question.
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Speaker 1: And the only way I can answer it is um,
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Speaker 1: wrong is in the eye of the viewer. But I
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Speaker 1: tell you what though, I yes, Sissy has compromised a
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Speaker 1: great deal of herself and it does not feel good. Yes,
59:29
Speaker 1: you know, it does not feel good. Um, Cissy has
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Speaker 1: turning a blind eye to that because why I need
59:55
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59:58
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Speaker 1: almost okay, yeah, you know, and then and and then
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Speaker 1: that gentleman whatever his name was. I mean, there is
1:00:18
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1:00:22
Speaker 1: and realizes that this is not who she ever desired
1:00:30
Speaker 1: to be. Ever meant to be. But it's a means
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Speaker 1: to an end, and it is my son. And if
1:00:41
Speaker 1: I don't, who the hell am I going to be
1:00:45
Speaker 1: that day when I turn away and say no, I'm
1:00:49
Speaker 1: not doing it anymore and I wake up and my
1:00:52
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Speaker 1: with that reality that death is the next option for
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Speaker 1: her child, she had to compromise. But you know, it's
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Speaker 1: forward for Cissy, it's worth it. Wow, mother knows best
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Speaker 1: is I don't always know best, just trying her damnedest
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Speaker 1: to make things work. This is true, but in the
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Speaker 1: your husband complaining, So mother knows best. There your son.
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Speaker 1: You're directing him to do certain things, whether he and
1:01:49
Speaker 1: what you you're saying, You're trying to get him out.
1:01:50
Speaker 1: Like I said, the beauty of this series is that
1:01:52
Speaker 1: it gives you so many different ways to portray how
1:01:55
Speaker 1: this community is. Because you have a bookstore owners where
1:01:58
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Speaker 1: thank you for allowing me to enjoy a series. Thank
1:03:12
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1:03:38
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Speaker 1: But more important to the storyline that I care the
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so very much. I am grateful
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Speaker 1: dialogue and say quick and make them love you quickly. Well, congratulations,
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Speaker 1: do drama. Talk about that, and now you're on a
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Speaker 1: very successful drama comedy on Netflix starring my man Jamie Fox,
1:08:22
Speaker 1: because I was co executively on the Jamie Fox Here's
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1:08:28
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Speaker 1: are you at exactly? Everybody? So, so talk about your ability,
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Speaker 1: and that's just about your talent. And that's why I
1:08:42
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1:08:45
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1:08:47
Speaker 1: intimidated by the audition opportunity. Talk about that ability to
1:08:51
Speaker 1: both from drama to go to sitcoms because they all
1:08:54
Speaker 1: have different shades. They do have different shades. And I
1:08:57
Speaker 1: like you, you're speaking from an after and producer stand point.
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Speaker 1: It's like it's it's you call it shades, and and
1:09:02
Speaker 1: in the actors we call it tone. So in the
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Speaker 1: tone of a drama is totally different than the tone
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Speaker 1: The dialogue is it's meant to want to punch and
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Speaker 1: then onto the next joke when it comes to dramas.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like you have to set up the storyline,
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Speaker 1: you have to deliver it differently, you have to deliver
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Speaker 1: it slower a lot of times. So I think going
1:09:23
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1:09:25
Speaker 1: time ago, and we did the Parkers fast forward into
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Speaker 1: stand up comedy all the way to you know the
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Speaker 1: all different tones, but still it's always the root of
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Speaker 1: in the scene. And then you had to and I remember,
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Speaker 1: Jakie Pro promoters. It was so funny. That movie's one
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Speaker 1: I'm when I'm going through at night and I got
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Speaker 1: I gotta watch it. I gotta watch it. So Jankee promoters,
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1:10:28
Speaker 1: People never think they think hard ice Cube, you know,
1:10:30
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1:10:32
Speaker 1: this hard guy when you see him do comedy, and
1:10:35
Speaker 1: even when you saw him in Friday, like he was
1:10:37
Speaker 1: hilarious and Friday. But Jakie promoters, he's like this affrow wearing,
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Speaker 1: slick talking promoter who's got to do what he does
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Speaker 1: to Rob Peter, to pay Paul to get money for
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Speaker 1: this concert. And it does not go well. And I
1:10:48
Speaker 1: let him know that I need my money. Don't play
1:10:50
Speaker 1: with me, disrespected me, get my money. Yes, but that's
1:10:55
Speaker 1: why so you in the sense I was just laying
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Speaker 1: there in the audience. Now before we get to the
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Speaker 1: sitcom from this, she had a comedy jobs. I didn't
1:11:03
Speaker 1: because I don't want anybody to thank you because you're attractive,
1:11:06
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1:11:08
Speaker 1: know she's a cute. They won't allow you know your
1:11:12
Speaker 1: talent to shine, talk about getting that type that happens
1:11:15
Speaker 1: all the time. And because I've been fortunate to be
1:11:18
Speaker 1: a part of your career early on, watching grow, you know,
1:11:22
Speaker 1: telling the world about you and watching your smile, I
1:11:25
Speaker 1: went Jakie promoters, right. I think I'm very distinctive looking
1:11:30
Speaker 1: in a way because people I don't care, even now
1:11:33
Speaker 1: with the whole mask thing. If they see this, they
1:11:35
Speaker 1: see my eyes and know my eyes, and then if
1:11:36
Speaker 1: I have no mask, it's like, oh my god, I
1:11:38
Speaker 1: know your lips and I know this space, and it's like,
1:11:40
Speaker 1: I guess I'm recognizable, which I love. So it's like
1:11:42
Speaker 1: I'm distinctive. And all the parts that I've gotten have
1:11:45
Speaker 1: been various roles, of course, but in the same sense,
1:11:49
Speaker 1: it's all still It's a part of who I am,
1:11:51
Speaker 1: every character that I've taken on, and especially this one currently,
1:11:54
Speaker 1: it's like it's one of the most, you know, the
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Speaker 1: most exciting particts that I've been a part of, just
1:11:59
Speaker 1: because of the dynamic I've had so long with Jimmie Fox,
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Kite and of course now with David Allen Grier.
1:12:04
Speaker 1: Watching this family comedy is just gonna bring such a
1:12:07
Speaker 1: warm you know, feeling to you and then we need
1:12:10
Speaker 1: it right now during a pandemic. Who all doesn't need
1:12:12
Speaker 1: a comedy to laugh at right? Absolutely? And the reason
1:12:15
Speaker 1: I like it because Netflix is going into that African
1:12:17
Speaker 1: American family comedy that's right, and they're going that way.
1:12:21
Speaker 1: And I just knew when I started getting a bunch
1:12:23
Speaker 1: of calls they're like, oh my god, I watch you
1:12:25
Speaker 1: in the Parkers, and I'm like, okay, it always is
1:12:26
Speaker 1: on TV, but Netflix got the Parkers, they got girlfriends,
1:12:30
Speaker 1: they got all these shows one on one that we
1:12:31
Speaker 1: used to watch on UPN that are now on the
1:12:34
Speaker 1: streaming service. And it's just a beautiful blessing to see
1:12:36
Speaker 1: how big these comedies they took off. And Netflix was like,
1:12:41
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, black comedies are exactly what people want
1:12:43
Speaker 1: to see, and we've already shot our show and now
1:12:45
Speaker 1: follow along and and and follow that pattern. They're they're
1:12:49
Speaker 1: really just truly they've been mindful of just how much
1:12:53
Speaker 1: people want to see all types of family because you
1:12:55
Speaker 1: can watch Bollywood on there, you can watch you know,
1:12:58
Speaker 1: Korean movies, you could watch anything on there, and their
1:13:01
Speaker 1: platform is so diverse and it's so inclusive, and that's
1:13:03
Speaker 1: why I love that we're there. We're a black family,
1:13:05
Speaker 1: but anybody can watch this show and relate to the
1:13:08
Speaker 1: homeboy that walks in trying to go in your kitchen
1:13:10
Speaker 1: getting some of your stuff, for the dad who lives
1:13:12
Speaker 1: in the backhouse, who who might have been going through
1:13:14
Speaker 1: hard times, or the sister who's just living with her
1:13:17
Speaker 1: brother trying to you know, be the best sister she
1:13:19
Speaker 1: could be while also being in the corporate world. We're
1:13:22
Speaker 1: all relatable, just in different ways, and everyone can watch
1:13:25
Speaker 1: it and feel a piece of them or someone they
1:13:27
Speaker 1: know in this show. You know, I'm just come in Netflix.
1:13:31
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the network streaming network because one thing,
1:13:33
Speaker 1: it's airs in a hundred and nanny countries. And the
1:13:36
Speaker 1: reason I say that, you know, I've written down Sister, Sister,
1:13:39
Speaker 1: I've written on Jamie Fox Show, I've written on the
1:13:41
Speaker 1: parents who And we've always been categorized as a black sitcom.
1:13:45
Speaker 1: And guess what we were regulated either to low watted
1:13:48
Speaker 1: stations or non major network station and so now and
1:13:52
Speaker 1: even in black movies, you know, we were premier. Will
1:13:55
Speaker 1: never go international on Netflix. You you're growing up international
1:13:59
Speaker 1: fans age, portion come on now, just just like but
1:14:03
Speaker 1: think about what we did the Parkers. It was up N.
1:14:05
Speaker 1: There was one network for all of our shows one right,
1:14:09
Speaker 1: it was Girlfriends one on one, the Parkers. You just
1:14:12
Speaker 1: tune into that network. Now you can watch you know,
1:14:16
Speaker 1: Shauna Rhymes TV shows and you see a Kerry Washington,
1:14:19
Speaker 1: you see a Viola DATABC. You know it's it's just
1:14:23
Speaker 1: it's no longer one of us. I said, I used
1:14:25
Speaker 1: to be me the talking black girl on on one
1:14:27
Speaker 1: show is the only one. I'm like, Now you're not.
1:14:30
Speaker 1: You're not the token black on this one that you know. Okay,
1:14:35
Speaker 1: now here's my history. You know, I was a co
1:14:37
Speaker 1: executive producer to the Jamie Foxx show that was on
1:14:39
Speaker 1: the w B Busney and was hired me okay and
1:14:43
Speaker 1: uh and s before I went over to the Caucus.
1:14:46
Speaker 1: That's why I met you. So that's a blessing in it.
1:14:48
Speaker 1: I have, I have a twofold relationship with you with
1:14:51
Speaker 1: Jamie so perfect and then kidding winning half. I know
1:14:55
Speaker 1: him from working on just various sitcom when he was
1:14:58
Speaker 1: cutting his teeth as a direct and so so that's
1:15:01
Speaker 1: the beauty of it. I'm sure, I'm sure so many
1:15:04
Speaker 1: names over there. Stacy Evans. I'm sure she's over there
1:15:07
Speaker 1: as well. That's my girl that so many people on
1:15:11
Speaker 1: The Parkers I love Stave, Stacy Evans, Bentley, Ken Whittingham.
1:15:15
Speaker 1: It was really a family dynamic because I've worked with
1:15:17
Speaker 1: Bentley on other projects. Of course, Stacy, you know with
1:15:20
Speaker 1: The Parkers, who is not a part of this, but
1:15:22
Speaker 1: she's so supportive and so amazing. And David Allen Greer
1:15:25
Speaker 1: works with Jamie Fox. I've known Jamie for ten years.
1:15:27
Speaker 1: I've known Jonathan Kite for many years. It's all just
1:15:30
Speaker 1: a circle. And when you watch us on camera, I
1:15:33
Speaker 1: definitely feel like you you feel that because it's like
1:15:35
Speaker 1: who doesn't go to Jamie Fox's house and and hang
1:15:37
Speaker 1: out and go to parties that he has, and you
1:15:41
Speaker 1: kind of tell people his parties are iconic. That you
1:15:44
Speaker 1: haven't seen each other in a while, you can always
1:15:45
Speaker 1: see each other. Jamie Fox through so many parties. He
1:15:49
Speaker 1: had a swinging gate. It just fell off. That's that's
1:15:51
Speaker 1: how many parties he through. He just leading gate open.
1:15:54
Speaker 1: They just they just fell on the ground. They just
1:15:57
Speaker 1: That's how many parties even throwing. But this this is
1:16:00
Speaker 1: the recordy on Netflix. It's called Dad Stopping bar embarrassing me. Yeah,
1:16:04
Speaker 1: I know Jamie. He goes off scripts sometimes he wants
1:16:07
Speaker 1: to improv. I know him well. So how do you
1:16:10
Speaker 1: react to this amazingly gifted young man who goes off
1:16:14
Speaker 1: script but continues to move to comedy forward and you
1:16:17
Speaker 1: have to make a little small adjustments to not bust
1:16:20
Speaker 1: out laughing, not bust out laughing and holding the script
1:16:23
Speaker 1: content moving forward. Talk about the experience of working with
1:16:26
Speaker 1: this brilliant young man. It is truly the definition of
1:16:30
Speaker 1: a master at work. He's a genius. I find him
1:16:34
Speaker 1: to be one of the most people, the most successful
1:16:36
Speaker 1: people and talented people I've ever met. I mean, he sings,
1:16:39
Speaker 1: he writes, he produces, he directs, he plays music, he's
1:16:43
Speaker 1: a comedian, he's a dramatic actor. There's nothing he can't do.
1:16:46
Speaker 1: So when you're on set with him and he deviates
1:16:49
Speaker 1: from the script, you gotta roll with the punches because
1:16:51
Speaker 1: that might be a better version of what was written there. Right,
1:16:53
Speaker 1: And so many times in the script and in the
1:16:56
Speaker 1: show that you're gonna see, there's a lot of moments
1:16:59
Speaker 1: that they left in there that were completely organic that
1:17:01
Speaker 1: Jamie did that I did that. David Allen Brier did that,
1:17:03
Speaker 1: Jonathan did that, Kylie Drew did that got kept in
1:17:06
Speaker 1: because it was just organically in the moment and someone's
1:17:08
Speaker 1: reaction was just perfect on the spot for a new
1:17:11
Speaker 1: thing that they actually hit you with because your reaction
1:17:13
Speaker 1: was different. Because you know, in acting, where you do takes,
1:17:16
Speaker 1: you do take three or four, sometimes five times. On
1:17:19
Speaker 1: certain shows, you might hit that one line that's different
1:17:23
Speaker 1: than what you thought it was gonna be in your
1:17:24
Speaker 1: whole reaction chain is and that's the money. So dealing
1:17:27
Speaker 1: with Jamie is just dealing with the master knowing how
1:17:29
Speaker 1: to you know, just be right next to him and
1:17:31
Speaker 1: just go right into the to the mix of it.
1:17:33
Speaker 1: And I find him just to be so so incredible
1:17:37
Speaker 1: at that that how do you not get lessons for
1:17:39
Speaker 1: someone who is so good at it? Like, I don't
1:17:41
Speaker 1: find anyone more funny than him, but also more diverse
1:17:44
Speaker 1: than him in the world of winning a Grammy or
1:17:47
Speaker 1: winning you know, like an Oscar and the recording amazing albums,
1:17:50
Speaker 1: like his voice is like to dive for so being
1:17:53
Speaker 1: next to him, as his sisters like is unbelievable. You know,
1:17:56
Speaker 1: just listen to your enthusiasm and first of all, it
1:17:58
Speaker 1: shows on the screen and it shows in Your Good
1:18:01
Speaker 1: Now that the portrayal of the women in the show. Uh.
1:18:06
Speaker 1: I love Heather's character. She plays Stacy. She runs the company,
1:18:09
Speaker 1: and she's kind of like the if I'm reading this right,
1:18:11
Speaker 1: she's divorce of reason within the show. Yes, without question, Yes,
1:18:16
Speaker 1: talk about her. Oh yeah, Stacy is actually incredible because
1:18:22
Speaker 1: she is you know, she's at this point, she's running
1:18:25
Speaker 1: the company. She's trying to let Brian know certain things
1:18:28
Speaker 1: that he might have to do to make sure this
1:18:30
Speaker 1: company become successful. It's already successful, but if he wants
1:18:33
Speaker 1: to stay in that category of success and in building
1:18:37
Speaker 1: and growing into a different dimension as a company, listen
1:18:41
Speaker 1: to her and understand what I'm telling you you need
1:18:43
Speaker 1: to do. But of course Brian is hardheaded, so Brian
1:18:46
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like anything need adjustments that he's already done well.
1:18:49
Speaker 1: And I come in because I'm like, listen, I come
1:18:52
Speaker 1: from the corporate world. You might want to listen to
1:18:53
Speaker 1: me here or there, and we can both give you
1:18:55
Speaker 1: advice because you don't know at all. And I like
1:18:58
Speaker 1: when he does actually for certain advice and when he
1:19:01
Speaker 1: listens to us sometimes and then when he doesn't listen
1:19:05
Speaker 1: to us. It's kind of like, oh, well, we told
1:19:07
Speaker 1: you so, you know, we can just say that she
1:19:09
Speaker 1: should have listened to the women. You know. It was
1:19:10
Speaker 1: really interesting about watching his career and watching the original
1:19:14
Speaker 1: hit sitcom that he had on called The Jamie Foxx Show.
1:19:17
Speaker 1: This seems like a grown version of that show because
1:19:20
Speaker 1: he was a single guy, you know, worked at the hotel,
1:19:24
Speaker 1: and now he's business owner and he has parent responsibilities
1:19:29
Speaker 1: and so he has a system who who Who's who
1:19:32
Speaker 1: helps keep him straight, you know, and and the things
1:19:35
Speaker 1: I love about the show this is it's a black show.
1:19:38
Speaker 1: And I say that in a complimentary way because it
1:19:40
Speaker 1: talks about black values and her important These black values resonate.
1:19:45
Speaker 1: And also it's really cool something to storylize that. And
1:19:49
Speaker 1: I would tell you this portion, you know, if I
1:19:51
Speaker 1: wasn't laughing, I was smiling the whole time I was
1:19:54
Speaker 1: watching this Nice you did you get that like feeling
1:19:57
Speaker 1: of like watching a family and saying, wow, the makes
1:20:00
Speaker 1: me feel good. And even the moments where you're like, no,
1:20:02
Speaker 1: he didn't know, she didn't You're like, oh that was though,
1:20:05
Speaker 1: Like you feel like every episode you might have learned
1:20:08
Speaker 1: something about you know, one of the characters that you
1:20:10
Speaker 1: didn't know before, but you also feel like you know
1:20:12
Speaker 1: someone that you can relate to. That exactly is a
1:20:16
Speaker 1: reflection of the person that you're seeing on screen, right absolutely,
1:20:19
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, is like, you know because
1:20:21
Speaker 1: you know after the third because you know, I come
1:20:23
Speaker 1: in because I know Jamie, and I came in with
1:20:26
Speaker 1: an open mind, because you know, I don't read any
1:20:29
Speaker 1: of the information. I know David Alagre as a fool. Okay,
1:20:33
Speaker 1: some fool, it's gonna come out. It's like, but good
1:20:35
Speaker 1: fool is this because it's gonna be funny. I know
1:20:38
Speaker 1: Jamie cars is gonna break the third fourth fifth wall.
1:20:41
Speaker 1: And in this show, he talks to you. That's a
1:20:43
Speaker 1: really cool thing. He talks to you, so be prepared.
1:20:46
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm giving away anything, but he talks
1:20:48
Speaker 1: to the audience, which is a really cool thing. And
1:20:52
Speaker 1: even even even David al Grip the Busses said won't
1:20:55
Speaker 1: talk to the audience. It's it's relatable. I like to
1:20:58
Speaker 1: say that. It kind of minds me of even like
1:21:00
Speaker 1: the Bernie Max show. Bernie Mac was father on the show.
1:21:03
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And he had those moments
1:21:05
Speaker 1: where he's engaging with the crowd because it's like sometimes
1:21:08
Speaker 1: you gotta say self, let me talk to you for
1:21:10
Speaker 1: a second. So whether somebody else is listening or on
1:21:13
Speaker 1: the other end of it, he's talking to himself and
1:21:16
Speaker 1: talking and thinking out loud, you know, even though the
1:21:19
Speaker 1: you know, the the audience is understanding the reflection that
1:21:21
Speaker 1: they're seeing, it's still him talking through. Okay, what scenario,
1:21:25
Speaker 1: this could go back, this could go right, what do
1:21:26
Speaker 1: I do? And then just going with it. And then
1:21:28
Speaker 1: of course we all have moments where we make the
1:21:30
Speaker 1: wrong decisions, but we're all there to pick each other
1:21:33
Speaker 1: up even in between those moments. Now, he's an interesting
1:21:35
Speaker 1: thing about it, the dynamics of the characters. You know,
1:21:38
Speaker 1: the daughter. Let's talking about their daughter, you know, the daughter.
1:21:41
Speaker 1: It is not a real life version of his real daughter.
1:21:44
Speaker 1: But it's a lucidating to the base. There's a Luci
1:21:47
Speaker 1: base series because he was an actual entertainer in real life.
1:21:51
Speaker 1: It wasn't a business own in real life. So would
1:21:54
Speaker 1: you sit taking We all want to work, you know,
1:21:56
Speaker 1: but we also opportunity to shine, the opportunity to show
1:22:00
Speaker 1: your singing. In this series did that. Did they excite you?
1:22:05
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it excited me because I felt like
1:22:08
Speaker 1: that was that was absolutely Jamie's doing. And I was
1:22:11
Speaker 1: just telling someone the other day and you can see
1:22:13
Speaker 1: this on Instagram and so many people have videos of it,
1:22:15
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of months ago, and actually not
1:22:17
Speaker 1: even a couple of months ago. At this point, was
1:22:18
Speaker 1: like a year and a half ago, even before we
1:22:20
Speaker 1: did the show, before I even knew I was going
1:22:21
Speaker 1: to be a part of the show, Jamie had one
1:22:22
Speaker 1: of those big house parties at the band in the
1:22:24
Speaker 1: middle of his living room and all of a sudden,
1:22:27
Speaker 1: Jamie was like, you know, played this song. So they
1:22:29
Speaker 1: started playing No Diggity the band. It's like, don't, don't, don't, no,
1:22:33
Speaker 1: no, no no, They started playing this song. So next thing,
1:22:35
Speaker 1: you know, all of his friends, all his background singers
1:22:37
Speaker 1: and jamming this song. Jamie says, I got a thousand
1:22:40
Speaker 1: dollars from whoever knows the rap first the Queen Pen's
1:22:43
Speaker 1: part or No Dignity, And I'm like, wait a minute,
1:22:48
Speaker 1: I'm in my head like, yo, look I know I
1:22:51
Speaker 1: got this. So I tapped him. I'm like, my got it,
1:22:52
Speaker 1: and he's like, where your Cooma ladies and gentlemen wh're
1:22:55
Speaker 1: Shakoleman says that Jamie, I mean, she says that she
1:22:58
Speaker 1: knows the Queen pen Birds. Next, you know, the band
1:23:00
Speaker 1: kind of took you down a little, so I started living.
1:23:02
Speaker 1: At first, I'm singing, so he's taking my all. She's
1:23:04
Speaker 1: probably gonna start singing. I hit it with a rat
1:23:07
Speaker 1: verse and I'm singing in between. The whole party loses it,
1:23:12
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, I guess he's He's
1:23:14
Speaker 1: all everybody said, hey, uh, going all this kind of
1:23:20
Speaker 1: stuff in the middle of his house. Two months later,
1:23:22
Speaker 1: I get the call about the show. Of course I auditioned,
1:23:25
Speaker 1: but it was just one audition, and then I end
1:23:27
Speaker 1: up getting the role. And then I'm seeing in one
1:23:29
Speaker 1: of the episodes that I'm singing. Jamie was like, oh no,
1:23:31
Speaker 1: we had to let you say, like, oh no, no, no,
1:23:33
Speaker 1: we made sure we had to do that because like,
1:23:34
Speaker 1: you're too talented. We gotta put that in so praying that.
1:23:37
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, if all goes well and we
1:23:39
Speaker 1: do end up getting blessed with more seasons, that we're
1:23:41
Speaker 1: going to really tap into a lot more of that stuff.
1:23:44
Speaker 1: Because who doesn't love Jamie Fox breaking into song. He's
1:23:47
Speaker 1: a master vocalist. So just to know that your sibling
1:23:50
Speaker 1: does the same thing, that's what mean. My own brother
1:23:52
Speaker 1: do but go into song all the time. And he's
1:23:54
Speaker 1: Jamie's age, and he also sings and was a former athlete.
1:23:57
Speaker 1: So I feel like I was perfect for this because
1:23:59
Speaker 1: the similarities between them and him, well, you know, the
1:24:01
Speaker 1: beauty of watching the talent of the first First, all
1:24:04
Speaker 1: my compliments are coming from a real source. Okay, yes,
1:24:07
Speaker 1: you know everybody, so we know it's coming from a
1:24:10
Speaker 1: place of understanding of who we are individually, and then
1:24:13
Speaker 1: seeing it's I appreciated, and it just seeing when you're
1:24:15
Speaker 1: going through that, you know, on the boat, on that
1:24:17
Speaker 1: boat in that video, you know. Okay, it was a
1:24:23
Speaker 1: funny point. I remember way back and when I was
1:24:25
Speaker 1: when I was co executive US and Jamie. He hasn't changed.
1:24:28
Speaker 1: We should do it. He used to host a amateur
1:24:30
Speaker 1: night or like a karaoke knight way back in the
1:24:33
Speaker 1: day and when yeah, it was it was on Sunset,
1:24:38
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name. It was on Sunset and
1:24:40
Speaker 1: when you came in there and did a carryokes and
1:24:43
Speaker 1: brought it down. So he has not changed. He's still brilliant.
1:24:49
Speaker 1: You've been a part of this. It wraps it all together,
1:24:52
Speaker 1: David all I gotta let you tell us about working
1:24:54
Speaker 1: with that food, David Ali Grid. Oh my gosh. Well
1:24:58
Speaker 1: to me automatically, when I heard David and Greer was
1:25:00
Speaker 1: a part of it, I said, Jamie Fox and David
1:25:02
Speaker 1: Allan Greer reuniting on camera. Oh my god, is what
1:25:06
Speaker 1: I said. Because I'm like, who didn't watch The Living
1:25:08
Speaker 1: Color and grow up watching their characters, thinking these men
1:25:11
Speaker 1: are just incredibly talented. And then when you were around
1:25:14
Speaker 1: Jamie the first day, like on set, Jamie was like,
1:25:17
Speaker 1: you guys don't understand. I wasn't the funniest person on
1:25:19
Speaker 1: the show. David Allen Greer was the funniest person on
1:25:21
Speaker 1: the show, and I was trying to be like him
1:25:23
Speaker 1: and David Alan Grierson. They're talking and they're just really
1:25:25
Speaker 1: going back and forth about their stories and when the
1:25:28
Speaker 1: camera rolls. David Allen Greer is a who like he
1:25:33
Speaker 1: We always talk about his wardrobe every day he comes
1:25:35
Speaker 1: in his overalls to set. He's he's like a farmer.
1:25:37
Speaker 1: He dresses like the farmer guy come on set, and
1:25:41
Speaker 1: when it's time to play David Annon Grier turns it
1:25:44
Speaker 1: all the way on and when you're off camera he's talking.
1:25:47
Speaker 1: I mean from he's just brilliant as as an artist
1:25:49
Speaker 1: and an individual. I mean, he's on Broadway, he's done movies,
1:25:53
Speaker 1: he's done television. From the car michaels like, he's brilliant
1:25:56
Speaker 1: when it comes to this art, art form in general.
1:25:58
Speaker 1: But putting them together now as father and son, it's
1:26:00
Speaker 1: something that is just mind going for people to really
1:26:04
Speaker 1: watch them after all this time together. And he's comedically
1:26:08
Speaker 1: just funny, just walking in somewhere, he walks in the
1:26:10
Speaker 1: way his stature is and this beard that he has,
1:26:12
Speaker 1: I'm sure, absolutely it's amazing. It's it's amazing that it's
1:26:18
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. That's right. We're talking about Netflix new Jamie
1:26:21
Speaker 1: Fox series Dad Stopping season one. All I gotta say
1:26:26
Speaker 1: is is I'm a I'm a I'm a hard critic,
1:26:29
Speaker 1: former stand up so I look everything. I'm a writer.
1:26:32
Speaker 1: I got friends on me. I got looking from the perspective.
1:26:34
Speaker 1: They're not my friends, you guys, you guys are delivering it.
1:26:38
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1:26:41
Speaker 1: Netflix you can sit there just like I did last
1:26:44
Speaker 1: night I went from the episode to an episode, the
1:26:46
Speaker 1: episode episode episode. Did you watch? You watched the whole thing? Absolutely? Absolutely?
1:26:51
Speaker 1: You know they tell you not to doing this spawler.
1:26:52
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1:26:54
Speaker 1: mentioning anything episode. Netflix. Ain't cutting my butt. Netflix Star,
1:26:58
Speaker 1: You're not gonna give away the spoilers. You watch the
1:27:00
Speaker 1: top to bottom on a journey, right, It's a journey.
1:27:03
Speaker 1: And that's why it's a real black experience. It's a
1:27:06
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1:27:10
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1:27:14
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1:27:16
Speaker 1: lot of things that are in this that are really
1:27:19
Speaker 1: uh that that plays out in our media airways today.
1:27:23
Speaker 1: It is told and plays out on this show. And
1:27:26
Speaker 1: you're you're fantastic. If we have if we go back
1:27:31
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1:27:33
Speaker 1: go to COVID, you gotta come and hang out and
1:27:35
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1:27:37
Speaker 1: at how crazy it is for all of us to
1:27:39
Speaker 1: be on the show, and you have every interaction with
1:27:42
Speaker 1: all of us individually, that would be a blessing, so
1:27:45
Speaker 1: praying that we get an audience season two and if
1:27:47
Speaker 1: we get a season two, you I'm telling you your
1:27:51
Speaker 1: boy was smiling, laughing, smile. I told my staff this morning.
1:27:54
Speaker 1: I came in and said, reached out. You looked at
1:27:56
Speaker 1: us watching the show. You know, the heckks making into work.
1:28:05
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1:28:09
Speaker 1: I said, well, I smiled the whole time. I couldn't
1:28:11
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1:28:14
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1:28:18
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1:28:20
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1:28:23
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Speaker 1: making conversations with your host, Ra Sean McDonald. But next guest.
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Speaker 1: My next guest is Xavier People's. He's a private wealth
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Speaker 1: advisor at Capital Group Private Client Services. Xavier works directly
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Speaker 1: with high net worth individuals and families to create customized
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Speaker 1: plans for protecting and growing their well He has been
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Speaker 1: recognized by Black Enterprise, one hundred, Modern Man, and the
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Speaker 1: of HBCU Change, focused on raising one billion dollars for
1:32:44
Speaker 1: HBCUs over five years. HBCU Change as a Black owned
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Speaker 1: app that rounds your purchase to the next dollar and
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Speaker 1: donates to change to your historical Black college or university,
1:32:55
Speaker 1: which is an HBCU of your choice. Please work with
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Speaker 1: the money making conversations. He didn't ever attend an hpc U,
1:33:02
Speaker 1: but he's like me. I did not attend an HPCU,
1:33:04
Speaker 1: but my passion and my uplift is about creating change.
1:33:07
Speaker 1: Please working in the the making conversation at Xavier People's
1:33:11
Speaker 1: glad to be here today. You're supporting, you're sporting to support,
1:33:14
Speaker 1: You've got the hbc U, Capo man, I swear you
1:33:17
Speaker 1: much and went to like fam new a boat house.
1:33:20
Speaker 1: Uh Howard, Tennessee State or Jackson State, Mississippi, Valence State,
1:33:25
Speaker 1: Graftly prayer for you, oh man, Texas Southern. I could
1:33:29
Speaker 1: run out of names and a hundred and four of them,
1:33:31
Speaker 1: but I know them all. How about you? Can we
1:33:33
Speaker 1: take a can we do it like an h b
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Speaker 1: c U? Uh Tim? You know you name HBCU. I
1:33:38
Speaker 1: name HBCU. Then we see you p W I attend
1:33:41
Speaker 1: right out of schools. How ain't doing, sir? I'm doing awesome?
1:33:47
Speaker 1: How your power you doing that? We're great, man, I'm
1:33:49
Speaker 1: great because I'm talking up to an individual who's trying
1:33:52
Speaker 1: to create change. You know, was was was even before
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Speaker 1: she was announced as a president vice print of the
1:34:00
Speaker 1: elect by Joe Biden. You know, HBCUs came to the
1:34:06
Speaker 1: forefront of acknowledgement by a lot of large donations from
1:34:09
Speaker 1: a lot of wealthy people in during the pandemic. What's
1:34:13
Speaker 1: your take on that? S What I'll say is the
1:34:18
Speaker 1: big donations are good, and we applaud the big donations
1:34:23
Speaker 1: again and again and again. And I will tell you
1:34:26
Speaker 1: most schools would applaud big donations as well, but there
1:34:29
Speaker 1: are a couple of things that I need to point out.
1:34:31
Speaker 1: Number One, those big donations seem to go to the
1:34:34
Speaker 1: same five to tend schools over and over again. And
1:34:39
Speaker 1: a lot of the mid size to small size schools
1:34:42
Speaker 1: that are in really need of those those donations are
1:34:46
Speaker 1: and that are at the highest risk of closing, they
1:34:49
Speaker 1: really never get those donations at all. So that's one
1:34:52
Speaker 1: point that I want to make. Number Two, if you
1:34:56
Speaker 1: talk to those institutions that receive those big donations, oftentimes
1:35:01
Speaker 1: those big donations fill an immediate needs and closed an
1:35:05
Speaker 1: immediate gap, and then the next year they still need
1:35:09
Speaker 1: those big donations to come on in again to keep
1:35:13
Speaker 1: the operational budget going, to keep a school going as
1:35:15
Speaker 1: a whole. And so what HBCU change is it gives
1:35:19
Speaker 1: schools consistent donations on a daily basis that will be
1:35:24
Speaker 1: the foundation of that school's operational budget to keep their
1:35:29
Speaker 1: doors open day in and day out. That's what this
1:35:32
Speaker 1: is all about. And I agree with you, you you know,
1:35:35
Speaker 1: but like the like the United Negro College Fund, that's
1:35:38
Speaker 1: a hundred and four h HBCUs that are credited as
1:35:42
Speaker 1: a three more than are unaccredited which will get you
1:35:44
Speaker 1: up to a hundred is selling. Okay, But like the
1:35:47
Speaker 1: knitting the crowding fund, I think it represents like thirty
1:35:50
Speaker 1: seven of the HBCU schools. I know it's no more
1:35:52
Speaker 1: than forty, So there's over sixty schools that are not
1:35:56
Speaker 1: getting any opportunity from any donations that are made to you.
1:36:00
Speaker 1: Now in legal College, a lot of people don't know
1:36:01
Speaker 1: that unless you go to the website. They don't publicly say, hey,
1:36:04
Speaker 1: give your money, but only a few schools are gonna
1:36:07
Speaker 1: get it. And this is about trying to uh spread
1:36:10
Speaker 1: the wealth, as we all talked about within the black community,
1:36:12
Speaker 1: trying to give everybody a shot to being successful. But
1:36:15
Speaker 1: what brought this concept to you? But before we even
1:36:17
Speaker 1: get to that, let's talk about your background. Okay. Now,
1:36:20
Speaker 1: you went to undergraduate I think you said, the University
1:36:22
Speaker 1: of West Georgia, Yes, and then undergraduate undergra University of
1:36:28
Speaker 1: West Georgia, um Born and ready East here in the
1:36:31
Speaker 1: city of Atlanta. So as you can imagine with the
1:36:34
Speaker 1: historic HBCUs here in Atlanta, they're they're very close and
1:36:38
Speaker 1: proximity to me. But then more importantly, they're very near
1:36:42
Speaker 1: and dear to my heart. UM, my dad he attended
1:36:45
Speaker 1: Savantah State University, my wife attended Spellman, My sister and
1:36:49
Speaker 1: law attended Spellman. And so I'm surrounded by HBCU grads
1:36:53
Speaker 1: day in and day out. Okay, so you're a spellman
1:36:56
Speaker 1: then you know, I know they're looking at you. Savannah State,
1:37:00
Speaker 1: m Mr. I know you got a scholarship. Mr. Athlete.
1:37:03
Speaker 1: You know went on down and they played little football.
1:37:05
Speaker 1: But then they came and you went to cal. Now
1:37:08
Speaker 1: now I'm having fought with this because see I went
1:37:10
Speaker 1: to the University of Houston, and I and the many
1:37:13
Speaker 1: campaigns with Stephen A. Smith got to be the UH
1:37:17
Speaker 1: brand ambassador for hbc U week for Ashley Christopher Christopher's Foundation.
1:37:22
Speaker 1: We've done two big events on ESPN where we raised
1:37:25
Speaker 1: UH what students have been awarded over the loved million
1:37:27
Speaker 1: dollars and scholarships. Over two thousand have been registered on
1:37:30
Speaker 1: the spot. So it's about passion, it's about belief. It's
1:37:33
Speaker 1: not about this interview is more about letting every everybody
1:37:37
Speaker 1: know that if you didn't go, don't don't feel there's
1:37:40
Speaker 1: a need not to be a part of change, a
1:37:42
Speaker 1: part of opportunity. That's what this interview is about, because
1:37:45
Speaker 1: you and I both know we never attended that. We
1:37:47
Speaker 1: varied from me. Hey, I went to Universe Houston, Texas.
1:37:49
Speaker 1: Southern was in walking distance right down the street in
1:37:51
Speaker 1: the Third War, Preview and then was forty five miles
1:37:55
Speaker 1: north of me, and so my schools when my my
1:37:58
Speaker 1: senior class, half my in your class went to Preview. Yeah,
1:38:02
Speaker 1: and so, so I'm very familiar with the HBCU brand,
1:38:04
Speaker 1: but at the time that wasn't I wouldn't even say
1:38:06
Speaker 1: I went to Southern University. I went to their freshman
1:38:10
Speaker 1: class induction ceremonies to be ad managed to be admitted
1:38:13
Speaker 1: as a freshman and bad rouge. So I I experienced it.
1:38:17
Speaker 1: I didn't close on it, but doesn't mean I can't
1:38:19
Speaker 1: continue to do my part to support it. And that's
1:38:22
Speaker 1: really what's driving you. Correct absolutely, because at the end
1:38:25
Speaker 1: of the day, when when I was coming out of
1:38:27
Speaker 1: high school, I actually wanted to go to more House,
1:38:29
Speaker 1: but I couldn't afford to go to more House, and so,
1:38:32
Speaker 1: um there weren't any scholarships or anything like that that
1:38:36
Speaker 1: I could find at that time that made it affordable
1:38:39
Speaker 1: and made financial sense for me to go to more House.
1:38:42
Speaker 1: But obviously athletics played a part into what drove me
1:38:47
Speaker 1: to another school, But I think if those financial opportunities
1:38:52
Speaker 1: were there, I would have gone to more House. So
1:38:55
Speaker 1: that's one thing. I know. You asked another question earlier
1:38:57
Speaker 1: about my background and kind of how that relates to
1:39:01
Speaker 1: change and how we got here today. Well, the way
1:39:03
Speaker 1: this actually started was my company, Capital Group, largest active
1:39:07
Speaker 1: money manager in the world, and we managed literally billions
1:39:10
Speaker 1: of dollars for institutions of higher learning, their endowments and foundation.
1:39:14
Speaker 1: And so We're sitting in a conference room one day
1:39:15
Speaker 1: and I just asked a simple question. I said, how
1:39:18
Speaker 1: many historically black colleges and universities endowments do we manage
1:39:22
Speaker 1: because they can truly benefit from the relationships, the resources,
1:39:26
Speaker 1: and the research that we provide these other institutions of
1:39:29
Speaker 1: higher learning. And to my surprise, the answer to zero.
1:39:32
Speaker 1: So I got on a plane went all over the
1:39:34
Speaker 1: country just to talk to HBCUs about who we are,
1:39:37
Speaker 1: what we could do for him, how we can truly
1:39:39
Speaker 1: help them, and they all stopped me in my tracks
1:39:41
Speaker 1: and said this. They say, Hey, the research, the resources
1:39:45
Speaker 1: that you can provide, that's great, but we have an
1:39:47
Speaker 1: issue getting out our alumni to consistently give back to
1:39:50
Speaker 1: the institution, and we can solve for that, then we
1:39:52
Speaker 1: can take advantage of this stuff that you're talking about today.
1:39:55
Speaker 1: So I came home and it quickly went from my
1:39:57
Speaker 1: daytime job to a passion of mine. I said, let
1:40:00
Speaker 1: me figure out how it can help these schools out,
1:40:02
Speaker 1: because they really need some help. I sent out a
1:40:04
Speaker 1: survey to five thousand HBC alum and I asked two
1:40:07
Speaker 1: simple questions, why don't you give back to your school?
1:40:10
Speaker 1: Why don't you give back to your school on a
1:40:12
Speaker 1: consistent basis? And then, so my surprise, the number one
1:40:15
Speaker 1: answer and that survey was we don't give back because
1:40:17
Speaker 1: we've never been asked, followed by we don't give back
1:40:21
Speaker 1: because we don't believe that we can give an amount
1:40:23
Speaker 1: that would have an impact on the school. And going
1:40:25
Speaker 1: back to your your first question, I would like to
1:40:28
Speaker 1: say that you know, we hear about these big mega
1:40:31
Speaker 1: millionaires and billionaires right in these huge checks to HBC.
1:40:34
Speaker 1: Used I tend believe I tend to believe that that
1:40:37
Speaker 1: has a double ed sword and it plays on the
1:40:40
Speaker 1: psyche of the average alumni and the average supporter of
1:40:44
Speaker 1: an HBCU, and they believe that if they're not cutting
1:40:47
Speaker 1: a million dollar check or even the thousand dollar check
1:40:50
Speaker 1: that there are five, ten, or twenty dollars a month,
1:40:52
Speaker 1: isn't having an impact on the school. And so what
1:40:55
Speaker 1: hbc you change wants to let everyone know that if
1:40:58
Speaker 1: we're all giving change on a monthly basis or HBCU,
1:41:02
Speaker 1: those sins as up to dollars, those dollars adds up
1:41:05
Speaker 1: to millions, and they can have a tremendous impact on
1:41:08
Speaker 1: each historically black college and university in this country. You know,
1:41:12
Speaker 1: it's really interesting how you're taking in and just bring
1:41:15
Speaker 1: up point out another known HBCU person who's out there
1:41:19
Speaker 1: shining a bright lifes Chris Paul and be All Star
1:41:21
Speaker 1: Chris Paul. He's doing in fact, he's doing a joint
1:41:24
Speaker 1: venture with Stephen A. Smith that's airing on ESPN Plus
1:41:26
Speaker 1: called why not Us about their North Carolina Central State University.
1:41:33
Speaker 1: North Carolina Central University. They called me state Bore. They
1:41:36
Speaker 1: come to get me for that. North Carolina Central University's
1:41:40
Speaker 1: rise to the run on the March Madness basketball season,
1:41:44
Speaker 1: which COVID really messed up. But that makes for us
1:41:46
Speaker 1: a good story in this series is on now ESPN Plus.
1:41:49
Speaker 1: Now when I when I look at you, and then
1:41:50
Speaker 1: I look at the whole prospect of you know, donations,
1:41:53
Speaker 1: because you you graduate from cal I Graduate Universe Uses,
1:41:57
Speaker 1: I knew exactly what they're talking about. They constantly asked
1:41:59
Speaker 1: me for money. They constantly asked me to speak. They
1:42:03
Speaker 1: constantly asked me so much that I eventually wrote a
1:42:05
Speaker 1: check for two h fifty dollars okay, for an endowar.
1:42:09
Speaker 1: So I there has to be a plan in place,
1:42:12
Speaker 1: and it has to be people built it. I remember,
1:42:14
Speaker 1: I remember the president of my school said she had
1:42:16
Speaker 1: a billion dollar campaign she wanted to be in place.
1:42:19
Speaker 1: She said she wanted to bring a medical school to
1:42:21
Speaker 1: the campus University Houston. That was Remember she approached me
1:42:25
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve because I was doing to Steve Harvey
1:42:28
Speaker 1: talk show in Chicago, and I hosted an event for
1:42:30
Speaker 1: her when she was in Chicago. And guess what. Fast forward,
1:42:34
Speaker 1: there's a she's passed a billion dollar fundraising mark. She
1:42:38
Speaker 1: has a we have a medical school on the campus
1:42:41
Speaker 1: of the University Houston. That is absolutely true. You have
1:42:44
Speaker 1: to have a plan in place. What I don't want
1:42:46
Speaker 1: people to do is act like black people don't want
1:42:48
Speaker 1: to give, Black people don't want to support. How are
1:42:50
Speaker 1: you asking and we're playing long term, not some short term,
1:42:54
Speaker 1: long term nurturing plan that you have in place to
1:42:57
Speaker 1: get get Black people to give or donate on the
1:43:00
Speaker 1: of the basis, what are your thoughts? So, um, it's funny.
1:43:05
Speaker 1: I received a call from Princeton not too long ago,
1:43:09
Speaker 1: and they've seen the publicity that we've received HBC Change
1:43:14
Speaker 1: and they just wanted to kind of talk to us
1:43:16
Speaker 1: about what we're doing and how we're galvanizing so many
1:43:20
Speaker 1: people to download a negative and in credit card and
1:43:24
Speaker 1: give change back to historical black colleges and universities. But
1:43:28
Speaker 1: the thing that struck out stuck out to me the
1:43:30
Speaker 1: most during that conversation, I just asked the question. I said,
1:43:33
Speaker 1: how many people do you have in your your office
1:43:35
Speaker 1: of Advancement, which is typically in charge of raising money
1:43:40
Speaker 1: for the school. They told me that they had a
1:43:42
Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine individuals that work in that department
1:43:46
Speaker 1: that are solely focused on raising money for the endowment
1:43:51
Speaker 1: and the operation of that school. Typically at historically black
1:43:55
Speaker 1: college and university they have one of two people. And
1:44:00
Speaker 1: so what we are. What we need to do is
1:44:02
Speaker 1: immediately is and I'm sure University of Houston they probably
1:44:07
Speaker 1: have probably was a hundred people who are in charge
1:44:11
Speaker 1: of that as well. And so we need to be
1:44:13
Speaker 1: able to raise money for this these historical black colleges
1:44:17
Speaker 1: and universities so they can build out their infrastructure and
1:44:20
Speaker 1: the apparatus to actually target and go after these individuals
1:44:24
Speaker 1: to raise money. Another thing that we're doing here at
1:44:26
Speaker 1: HBCU Change is we're becoming an extension of the school
1:44:30
Speaker 1: by helping these schools to organize data. You can't raise
1:44:33
Speaker 1: money if you don't have good data on your alumni
1:44:36
Speaker 1: and your supporters and you know where are these individual
1:44:39
Speaker 1: individuals geographically loticated? Do you have good email addresses and
1:44:43
Speaker 1: good phone numbers on these individuals to contact them, to
1:44:46
Speaker 1: ask them for money and to organize to raise money.
1:44:49
Speaker 1: And so what we're creating is a dashboard and a
1:44:52
Speaker 1: database for each HBCU so they can have the found
1:44:56
Speaker 1: the foundational infrastructure to build it out and to raise
1:45:00
Speaker 1: it's more money for their school. In the hall, now
1:45:01
Speaker 1: here's here's here's the key conversation and all this Okay,
1:45:04
Speaker 1: you told me the background. Private Wealth devisitors, one of
1:45:07
Speaker 1: the largest Capital Group Private Client Services got that. Then
1:45:11
Speaker 1: you say, hey, I went around several colleges and find
1:45:13
Speaker 1: out what's going on. They say, they are this app
1:45:17
Speaker 1: that was designed. Is it your app? Or is it
1:45:20
Speaker 1: tied to Capital Group Private Client Services or how did
1:45:24
Speaker 1: that come out? How did the development of that app
1:45:26
Speaker 1: come about? And what makes it secure? Because that's when
1:45:28
Speaker 1: people always thought, you know, I don't you know you
1:45:31
Speaker 1: got the Russians attack and they're talking about faith faith voting.
1:45:34
Speaker 1: You know, it's so much distrust some types of technology
1:45:36
Speaker 1: that you when you hear something new like this that's positive,
1:45:40
Speaker 1: how do you work yourself through that process? But tell
1:45:43
Speaker 1: us how all got started from a technical standpoint, absolutely so, No,
1:45:47
Speaker 1: this app does not have anything to do with Capital
1:45:49
Speaker 1: Group at all. This is solely um an app that
1:45:53
Speaker 1: bootstraffed and finance out of my pocket and I have
1:45:56
Speaker 1: a great team of eight individuals around me who helped
1:46:00
Speaker 1: to build out this app. Shout out to my god
1:46:03
Speaker 1: Troy Wilson, who is the actual developer of this app. Now,
1:46:07
Speaker 1: when it comes to security, we have two of the
1:46:11
Speaker 1: most secure platforms out there, the same platforms that you
1:46:14
Speaker 1: use for your online banking. We use for HBCU change
1:46:18
Speaker 1: as well, and that is Plaid and Stripe and so
1:46:20
Speaker 1: Plat and Strike are the most secure platforms out there
1:46:24
Speaker 1: when it comes to cyber cybersecurity, particularly in financial technology.
1:46:30
Speaker 1: And our app is just secure as your online making.
1:46:33
Speaker 1: That's how we pretty much describe it when we're talking
1:46:35
Speaker 1: to the end us, right, and that's important to end user.
1:46:38
Speaker 1: So so one uses this. So now we're getting into
1:46:42
Speaker 1: the tech now the application part, because you're saying that
1:46:45
Speaker 1: by using this the change, it rounds it up. You've
1:46:49
Speaker 1: been forty five cents. It's a rounded up to a
1:46:51
Speaker 1: dollar of assuming and that's sixty five fifty cents will
1:46:55
Speaker 1: be donated going to an account all to the school
1:47:00
Speaker 1: of your charge. How does that work there? Yeah, so
1:47:02
Speaker 1: great question again. You're right, you buy a couple of
1:47:05
Speaker 1: coffee for three dollars and fifty cents, right, so we
1:47:07
Speaker 1: round that transactions up to four dollars. That empty cents
1:47:10
Speaker 1: goes to the HBCU of your choice. So you will
1:47:14
Speaker 1: go in and you will link your debit and or
1:47:17
Speaker 1: your credit card to the app, and basically every transaction
1:47:22
Speaker 1: that you have, we're rounding every one of those transactions
1:47:25
Speaker 1: up to the nearest dollar, and we're giving that change
1:47:27
Speaker 1: to the hbc of your choice. What we found on
1:47:30
Speaker 1: that app is that the average person gives about twenty
1:47:34
Speaker 1: seven dollars per month per card on the app. So
1:47:38
Speaker 1: if you have your debit card connected, based on all
1:47:41
Speaker 1: the transactions you have on a monthly basis, more than
1:47:44
Speaker 1: likely when you round up that change, you're gonna give
1:47:46
Speaker 1: about twenty seven dollars per month. So using Clark Atlanta
1:47:50
Speaker 1: as a universe as an example, Clark Atlanta has forty
1:47:53
Speaker 1: thousand alumni at Clark Atlanta University. If we will only
1:47:57
Speaker 1: get ten thousand of those individuals to sign up in
1:48:00
Speaker 1: our average, they're giving twenty seven dollars a month. That's
1:48:04
Speaker 1: three million dollars a year going to Clark Atlanta University,
1:48:06
Speaker 1: which ultimately has a huge impact on Clark because that's
1:48:10
Speaker 1: money that they otherwise we're not getting on an annual basis. Okay,
1:48:14
Speaker 1: now I'm I'm speaking to Xavier. You know, he's the
1:48:16
Speaker 1: developer of HBCU. Change is this app and this goal
1:48:20
Speaker 1: is to raise one billion dollars for HBCUs over five years.
1:48:23
Speaker 1: So I'm really trying to I'm not I'm not trying
1:48:25
Speaker 1: to grill on you. I'm just trying to see how
1:48:27
Speaker 1: works because I'm ready for it, Okay, because you know,
1:48:29
Speaker 1: because okay, now, because I used my credit card, I
1:48:33
Speaker 1: go in. This is using your credit card, right, yes,
1:48:36
Speaker 1: I give you credit. I go into let's say loads.
1:48:40
Speaker 1: I went in Loads yesterday, I put my thoughts and plants.
1:48:43
Speaker 1: I pay for my plants. How does they get to
1:48:46
Speaker 1: the me paying for my plants with my credit card
1:48:50
Speaker 1: to the app? That's that's the part that's confusing me.
1:48:52
Speaker 1: All right, good question. So what happens is you will
1:48:55
Speaker 1: do your daily transactions. Once your daily transactions that change
1:48:59
Speaker 1: from me daily trans actions, once it totals five dollars,
1:49:02
Speaker 1: then immediately that money goes from your your bank account
1:49:07
Speaker 1: right to your school's stripe account. Okay, and from there
1:49:13
Speaker 1: it starts over again. So every transaction you make, once
1:49:16
Speaker 1: those roundups total five dollars, that's when the money transfers
1:49:20
Speaker 1: from your bank account to that school's stripe account. Just
1:49:25
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that I hear
1:49:27
Speaker 1: the round up, I hear where it's gonna go. My
1:49:29
Speaker 1: disconnect is becoming like when I charged the credit card
1:49:33
Speaker 1: and the app. There are two different things. Okay, how
1:49:36
Speaker 1: does the app? No I made a charge? I guess
1:49:38
Speaker 1: that's the question. I apologize, good question, No, no worries.
1:49:41
Speaker 1: So all right, I'm gonna back up a little bit
1:49:43
Speaker 1: and teck and it just a little bit better. That is,
1:49:46
Speaker 1: you have let's just say you have most credit cards,
1:49:51
Speaker 1: so you have your multiple credit cards, and then you
1:49:53
Speaker 1: have your funding source, which is essentially essentially your checking account.
1:49:57
Speaker 1: So that what the app does is it looks at
1:49:59
Speaker 1: the trans actions that you have on your credit card
1:50:02
Speaker 1: and it says, Okay, you went to Starbucks and bought
1:50:04
Speaker 1: coffee for three dollars and fifty cents, we're gonna hold
1:50:07
Speaker 1: his fifty cents to to the side. You went to
1:50:10
Speaker 1: Lows and you bought a flashlight for twenty seven dollars
1:50:14
Speaker 1: and seventy cents, We're gonna hold this. And then once
1:50:18
Speaker 1: all of those transactions total five dollars, then it triggers
1:50:23
Speaker 1: for that five dollars to move from your checking account
1:50:26
Speaker 1: to your school stripe account. So if you wanted to
1:50:30
Speaker 1: support Texas Southern, for an example, it goes from your
1:50:34
Speaker 1: your checking account to Texas Southern stripe account and then
1:50:37
Speaker 1: Texas Southern takes the possession of that five dollars. Now,
1:50:40
Speaker 1: you said on a lot of boards, you know, most
1:50:42
Speaker 1: of other as Citizens Trust Bank Advisory Board, the Atlanta
1:50:45
Speaker 1: Police Foundation, Young Guns BOYD. So you always have been involved,
1:50:49
Speaker 1: You've always wanted to give back. Why is that important
1:50:52
Speaker 1: to you? And I'm not just talking about HBCU, but
1:50:54
Speaker 1: you have a you have a built in you know,
1:50:56
Speaker 1: d N a of of saying my six it's great,
1:51:01
Speaker 1: but it happened other people to be successful is even better.
1:51:04
Speaker 1: So so there are a couple of things to that.
1:51:07
Speaker 1: Number One, when you see issues using your community, you
1:51:13
Speaker 1: know a lot of times you just have to ask
1:51:15
Speaker 1: the simple question, what you want to do about it?
1:51:18
Speaker 1: In the best way to contribute to being a part
1:51:22
Speaker 1: of the solution is just being at a part of
1:51:24
Speaker 1: the solution and getting involved on boards that makes decisions
1:51:28
Speaker 1: on the impact on your community day in and day out.
1:51:31
Speaker 1: So that's one. Number Two, I live up. I believe
1:51:34
Speaker 1: in reciprocity and that is what you give out, you
1:51:38
Speaker 1: get back. And I believe that I'm blessed in my
1:51:40
Speaker 1: life because I give, I give, I give, I give more.
1:51:44
Speaker 1: So I would never have to want or weight on anything,
1:51:47
Speaker 1: because I've already put the good energy out into the atmosphere.
1:51:51
Speaker 1: And then lastly, I love my people, and at the
1:51:55
Speaker 1: end of the day, I think that that's the most
1:51:58
Speaker 1: important thing that I have loved, or black historical Black
1:52:02
Speaker 1: colleges and universities, black businesses, black institutions, the Black Church period,
1:52:07
Speaker 1: because I understand that I am who I am because
1:52:11
Speaker 1: of those institutions. And and yeah, you're right, I did
1:52:14
Speaker 1: not go to HBCU, but more than likely the person
1:52:17
Speaker 1: that came before me, the first private wealth advisor to
1:52:21
Speaker 1: the first private banker, probably had some connection or or
1:52:26
Speaker 1: went to a historical Black college in university. And so
1:52:29
Speaker 1: that's not lost on me at all. And so I'll
1:52:31
Speaker 1: understand the importance of these institutions, and so I feel
1:52:35
Speaker 1: that it's my obligation to support these institutions day in
1:52:38
Speaker 1: and day out. Yeah, your father which is a Vania state,
1:52:41
Speaker 1: which is HBC, and your wife with the spellment you
1:52:44
Speaker 1: know you're an HBC. HBC you change and secure partnership
1:52:47
Speaker 1: with brands like Sea Groups, Jim Watch the r for
1:52:50
Speaker 1: Creative program, tell us about that and and Alsto your
1:52:53
Speaker 1: speaker series Keys to Growth absolutely so we'll start with
1:52:57
Speaker 1: Keys to Growth. Keys to Growth is beyond just raising
1:53:00
Speaker 1: money for hbc USE. We want to give the schools,
1:53:04
Speaker 1: the administration, the alumni and supporters good information that they
1:53:09
Speaker 1: can use. You know, is one thing thole saying that
1:53:12
Speaker 1: um you can give someone a fish and they can
1:53:14
Speaker 1: eat for a day, but you can teach them how
1:53:16
Speaker 1: to fish and they can eat for a lifetime. What
1:53:19
Speaker 1: we do is we go out and find the best
1:53:21
Speaker 1: thought leaders in the world and we do a monthly
1:53:23
Speaker 1: conference for those thought leaders to come and give great
1:53:27
Speaker 1: information to hbc US presidents administration on how they can
1:53:32
Speaker 1: better monetize their brand, how they can use finances to
1:53:36
Speaker 1: better leverage those finances to better position hbc used over
1:53:41
Speaker 1: the Loan Call and so um our. Most recent um
1:53:45
Speaker 1: Key's the Growth Series. We had Damon John from Shark
1:53:48
Speaker 1: Tank and a gentleman by the name of Gary Benderchuck
1:53:51
Speaker 1: who's a marketing genius, and he talked to HBCU presidents
1:53:55
Speaker 1: about um using licensing to leverage their brands and to
1:54:00
Speaker 1: make money. Most recently we've seen Nike and Lebron James
1:54:04
Speaker 1: partnership with Florida and m University, and that's a great
1:54:07
Speaker 1: example of how um an HBCU partner with Nike and
1:54:12
Speaker 1: they're gonna use their licensing brand to ultimately make money
1:54:17
Speaker 1: for in this case, the athletic program at Florida A
1:54:20
Speaker 1: and M University. Well, you know when you have an
1:54:22
Speaker 1: app trying to generate revenue called HBCU Change, it's naturally
1:54:26
Speaker 1: coming to money. Make conversation. Okay, we're talking about conversation.
1:54:30
Speaker 1: How you getting out because I'm definitely gonna drop this
1:54:32
Speaker 1: in my newsletter And I got a platform called HBCU
1:54:35
Speaker 1: Awards that's it's about Black excellence. It's because if you
1:54:38
Speaker 1: can go, there's HBCU Awards dot Com. I'm gonna feature
1:54:41
Speaker 1: this on then get my staff to sit down with
1:54:44
Speaker 1: you and see if we can put this on our website.
1:54:47
Speaker 1: And because I think this is really cool. UM my
1:54:50
Speaker 1: executive producer, she's uh HBCU grab Hampton University. UM my
1:54:55
Speaker 1: social media person. She's from Savannah State. As you said earlier,
1:54:59
Speaker 1: for your father tended to hpc U. So but I
1:55:02
Speaker 1: think this is something that you're You're here from it
1:55:04
Speaker 1: because if this is something I want you to go.
1:55:05
Speaker 1: It's called hbc Awards dot Com. If most Black excellence
1:55:09
Speaker 1: in the in the area, academics as well as black
1:55:12
Speaker 1: excellence overall. It's a combination of what we're talking about.
1:55:15
Speaker 1: You know. I we talked about barbershop, beautici laws or
1:55:19
Speaker 1: UH stamp programs, and academics. We talked about the marching bands.
1:55:22
Speaker 1: We talked about all the business schools, We talked about
1:55:25
Speaker 1: everything that involved and excels, the medical side, the nursing
1:55:28
Speaker 1: side of HBCUs and so that's what I'm about. And
1:55:32
Speaker 1: so when I see something like that, if this is
1:55:34
Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to promote and give you another
1:55:37
Speaker 1: relationship that's legitimate that brings credibility to your brand, we
1:55:42
Speaker 1: should talk and we should talk about giving you a
1:55:44
Speaker 1: link and it goes to your website and let people
1:55:47
Speaker 1: figure out how to register and also put you in
1:55:50
Speaker 1: our newsletter. But HPC Awards were on Instagram, Twitter and
1:55:53
Speaker 1: Facebook and uh. Samantha Taylor of AP of the show
1:55:57
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation is the one who brought you to
1:56:00
Speaker 1: my attention to reach out. He's kind of like you.
1:56:02
Speaker 1: He's on the HPCU GRAB. I feel you guys should
1:56:05
Speaker 1: connect and that's why you're on this car. But more importantly,
1:56:07
Speaker 1: you on this call, so's you can use our synergy
1:56:10
Speaker 1: to help your brand win, because our goal is just
1:56:13
Speaker 1: to get these young people an opportunity to get a
1:56:15
Speaker 1: high education, spending the least amount of money. Absolutely, and
1:56:20
Speaker 1: and and our and our goal is raised a billion
1:56:21
Speaker 1: dollars faith pc US over the next five years. You
1:56:24
Speaker 1: know a lot of people say a billion dollars, How
1:56:26
Speaker 1: can you do it? Why are you even trying to
1:56:29
Speaker 1: do it? And I always say that how is by
1:56:34
Speaker 1: have these conversations that we're having right now and getting
1:56:37
Speaker 1: the awareness out on it as many platforms as possible
1:56:40
Speaker 1: so people can know that, hey, this is the goal,
1:56:43
Speaker 1: and we can do this, and we can achieve this
1:56:44
Speaker 1: goal in five years. And so I'm excited and I
1:56:48
Speaker 1: want to say that I owe you to the deepest
1:56:50
Speaker 1: gratitude as possible, and I and I kind of honor
1:56:53
Speaker 1: in the privilege for you to allow me to sit
1:56:55
Speaker 1: here and be on your platform today because I know
1:56:57
Speaker 1: you have a huge platform, and I feel that it's
1:56:59
Speaker 1: important for me to get on this platform and and
1:57:03
Speaker 1: and give the HBCU Gospel and hbc you Change gospel
1:57:06
Speaker 1: and let people know that just a couple of cents
1:57:08
Speaker 1: can go a long way and supporting HBC use over
1:57:11
Speaker 1: there across this nation. Well not only a couple of cents,
1:57:14
Speaker 1: but you know your brand. And so that's why I'm
1:57:16
Speaker 1: sitting up here looking as as doing this interview. Thought
1:57:19
Speaker 1: this whole interview, Xavier, I'm just thinking, how can I
1:57:21
Speaker 1: help him? How can I doing that one? You know something,
1:57:24
Speaker 1: Let's let's put a link on the website, because I
1:57:26
Speaker 1: have a link already already that goes to Dr Teresa
1:57:28
Speaker 1: Price and she does the Black Expose and Black Expose
1:57:31
Speaker 1: you can register on the spot, and so that's that's
1:57:34
Speaker 1: another opportunity. I probably connect you with her, you know,
1:57:36
Speaker 1: because just trying to associate your break because we all
1:57:39
Speaker 1: got the bottom line, man, we're just trying to help
1:57:40
Speaker 1: these young people to go to get education and change
1:57:43
Speaker 1: their lives effectively, you know, give them upper hand. You
1:57:46
Speaker 1: can go to college. And I'm not saying you have
1:57:48
Speaker 1: to complete complete your education, but I'm just telling people
1:57:51
Speaker 1: go to college because Tylerge changed my life. I'm not
1:57:53
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. I would not be the man.
1:57:55
Speaker 1: It took me seven years to graduating. Now, don't tell
1:57:57
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't end and out now whenn't the
1:57:58
Speaker 1: end and out now. But but because I went there,
1:58:01
Speaker 1: I saw so much more to what I saw growing
1:58:05
Speaker 1: up in the black neighborhood. I saw so much more.
1:58:08
Speaker 1: And that that diversity or being able to communicate with
1:58:12
Speaker 1: so many different people, people who look like me, people
1:58:14
Speaker 1: didn't look like me, allowed me to be the person
1:58:17
Speaker 1: I am as a father, as a parent, as as
1:58:19
Speaker 1: a husband, all those good things that's a business person
1:58:22
Speaker 1: has led me to do through education. And that's just
1:58:25
Speaker 1: what this this interviews by the education and HBCU is
1:58:28
Speaker 1: the brand that's being underserved, underrecognized for the Black excellence
1:58:32
Speaker 1: and the contributions. Because you know, I always tell people
1:58:35
Speaker 1: a percent of the congressman a black HBC used, of
1:58:39
Speaker 1: the doctors HBC used, you know, or seventy of the
1:58:43
Speaker 1: of the of the of the teachers. It's it's just
1:58:45
Speaker 1: a list that goes on and on. How a small
1:58:48
Speaker 1: population of students graduated HPCU, but they dominate the black workforce.
1:58:54
Speaker 1: That's powerful, brother, that's powerful, right. And and imagine if
1:58:59
Speaker 1: hbc USE we're not around, yes, then where would we
1:59:04
Speaker 1: be as a community. Right with those stats that you
1:59:08
Speaker 1: just routed off, and like you said, there are many
1:59:10
Speaker 1: more stats. The essentially HBCUs are the bare rock of
1:59:15
Speaker 1: the black ecosystem and the black economy and so um
1:59:19
Speaker 1: without HBCUs where nothing and and and they're needed. And
1:59:23
Speaker 1: so we need to do in and everything to do
1:59:26
Speaker 1: two things. Number one, UM supporting HBCUs and people kind
1:59:31
Speaker 1: of being a drum major for HBCUs. That's that's a trend, right,
1:59:35
Speaker 1: that's in bold right now. It's our job to make
1:59:39
Speaker 1: sure that it's not just a trend, but it's something
1:59:42
Speaker 1: that's here to stay for decades and generations to come. Yeah,
1:59:46
Speaker 1: I'd like said, I'm developing HBCU radio network. You know,
1:59:50
Speaker 1: so far I'm up to thirteen stations with money making conversations.
1:59:53
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you, man, I want to mission. That's
1:59:55
Speaker 1: why I love talking to you. Brother. I want to
1:59:57
Speaker 1: mission to make change. And uh and I'm you you
2:00:00
Speaker 1: already got your thing having it. But brother, anything I
2:00:02
Speaker 1: can do for you, Xavia, I'm gonna do. That's why
2:00:04
Speaker 1: I let you know my newsletter, my website on social media,
2:00:08
Speaker 1: and plus I got my radio network that goes there's
2:00:11
Speaker 1: an hour show that I program exclusively for HBCU. So
2:00:15
Speaker 1: you know, this interview will be on that platform as
2:00:18
Speaker 1: well as my national talk show platform. Nice. Well, I'm
2:00:20
Speaker 1: looking forward to tapping in with both you and your team,
2:00:23
Speaker 1: so I'm ready. So let me know when where both
2:00:27
Speaker 1: me and my team would be there. Okay, cool? Well,
2:00:29
Speaker 1: my office here in Atlanta, Georgia, so I'm based in Atlanta.
2:00:32
Speaker 1: I'm opening Peachtree Corners, Georgia, which is no across so
2:00:36
Speaker 1: we're definitely connected. And I gotta go to Atlantic City
2:00:38
Speaker 1: this weekend, but next week we're trying to connect. So
2:00:41
Speaker 1: I just start sitting. You know, everybody knows my brain
2:00:44
Speaker 1: and what I'm trying to do. I've been fortunate in
2:00:46
Speaker 1: this business to uh be perceiving somebody who's successful. So
2:00:51
Speaker 1: I used that talent uh to be able to give
2:00:54
Speaker 1: other individuals like you platforms and that's what money making
2:00:56
Speaker 1: conversation is. Okay, thank you so much. Well, I'm looking
2:00:59
Speaker 1: forward to connecting with you soon when you get back.
2:01:01
Speaker 1: Thank you, and I think your Xavier people's for coming
2:01:04
Speaker 1: on my show, HBC. You change. He's making a difference
2:01:07
Speaker 1: five but is a billion dollars. I mean I've been
2:01:10
Speaker 1: dollars a billion dollars five years, a billion dollars in
2:01:15
Speaker 1: five years. You know you can do it. It's a number, man,
2:01:18
Speaker 1: It's a number, and it's a number. You know. You
2:01:20
Speaker 1: know what happens, man, is that people try to think,
2:01:24
Speaker 1: you know, just you're talking about since, and you know
2:01:26
Speaker 1: since add up to dollars, and dollars adds up to
2:01:28
Speaker 1: five and tens and fifteen twenties, and that's what that's
2:01:31
Speaker 1: how you galvanize people to participate, is that you don't
2:01:35
Speaker 1: encourage a lot. You just concourage some considers some level
2:01:39
Speaker 1: of participation. And I knows you launched a campaign like
2:01:43
Speaker 1: uh on give Tuesday of the same day I did
2:01:47
Speaker 1: a big campaign for four He's College and I was
2:01:50
Speaker 1: able to raise a million dollars for them in that campaign.
2:01:53
Speaker 1: So my man, you're looking at the right dude, Man,
2:01:56
Speaker 1: I care. I'm having sent over a deck to you
2:01:58
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2:02:01
Speaker 1: you can see what we're doing. Look at our platforms
2:02:03
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2:02:07
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