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Disney Superlatives! (with Drew Taylor) · Very Amusing with Carlye Wisel - A Theme Park Podcast

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, we're getting there, we're getting there, and welcome to very amusing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Your one-stop shop for the story's secrets and shenanigans of a pop refueled theme park journalist.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm Perthie Wiesel, and if this is your first time listening to very amusing, let me explain.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This week, we have an incredible interview in honor of the school year ending, our Disney Superlatives, a new thing we're doing which I'm 1,000 percent going to bring back every June with my friend and colleague Drew Taylor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This episode, now what I'm saying now, but the actual interview that Chachat withdrew Taylor, that was recorded before I lost my voice screaming about Kermit the Frog at Kermit's
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[SPEAKER_04]: the frog.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, it happens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of like, do I get workmen's comp for this?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It just kind of feels like natural that I would lose my voice because I got to see them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got to see them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got to see them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See, this is how it happened.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is how it happened.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is authentic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't plan on that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My body just cannot control.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't told, I haven't even like told you guys the full details, but just because we're among friends, I fully had to go on anti biotics at Disney World for something that is not contagious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is a, let's just say an internal related issue that,
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're not going to get into it, but it is not a contagious thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is not like I showed up to the park sick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had to go on anti-biotics.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think my body shut down because it was like, what do you mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's mopped here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My body stopped functioning and I had to take a medication to be like, I am here on this earth and also the muppets are here in the fur and organs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can keep working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're in shock, but it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is how exciting was.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I lost my voice, but this episode is my old voice, which is thrilling because it's nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's nice to be like, oh yeah, one day I will speak again normally.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Otherwise, when you're listening to this surprise, I'm back at Disney World.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, I didn't really plan it to be this way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The trip and currently on is vacation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ooh, dog!
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I plan this many, many months ago.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But the stars just aligned in a way where I'm going to Disney World a lot and get surprised and back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we will be talking about that next week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to keep you from it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's an Antarctic enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I will see you when I'm home and I'm going to enjoy my old voice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This week we are speaking with Drew Taylor and he's not just a colleague.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not just a friend.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is prolific.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This dude is out here getting the scoops from celebrities for his day job as an incredible reporter at the rap.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's also the host of the official mission impossible podcast like the fuse.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's writing all of those Disney parks stories that kind of explode on social media.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're almost always written by Drew.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's publishing books about the making of multiple animated films.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's co-hosting the fine tuning podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And yet, Drew found time to hang out with us here on very amusing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's my bad that it took so long because I was convinced.
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[SPEAKER_04]: convinced the Druidman I'm very amusing before until he brought it up to me and was like my heaven I've been on and I realized you have and he was like I have not and obviously his brain functions at a level much higher than mine so I believed him and immediately got him on the mic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now this is a new format for us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is a new type of chitchat that I'm introducing for our calendar year 2026 and will be coming back year after year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's Disney Superlatives.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The school year is over, so why not crack open the Disney Yearbook and talk about different things that we think and different little awards, sometimes good sometimes bad, that we give to different aspects of Walt Disney World resort.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We decided to keep this one strictly Disney World resort, but in future years I think when I expand it to maybe Disneyland or maybe even globally.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Two little things I want to highlight before we get into it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Three, but actually three things.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to put a bunch of links in the show notes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You got to check out Drew's work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It isn't under, that Drew is here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's number one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Number two, the first super-litant we begin with is most underrated.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I introduced the rest of them very clearly, but that first one is kind of blinking you'll miss it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if you get a text message in a ding, you might fully miss me saying that phrase really quickly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So the first one is most underrated.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the second thing is we make a silly little bit's reference far into the episode and the thing we reference is something that people can actually now see in the rock and rollercoaster starring them up it's cute now I'm going to leave it that you'll know what it is when we imagine it to be like oh yeah, that's what it is but truly like this episode is so much fun hearing all Jews very candid thoughts you thought I was honest
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[SPEAKER_04]: You thought, I was honest, buckle up for Drew Taylor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, hearing all Drew's candid thoughts about everything from attractions and experiences to his history with Disney's Hollywood studios, like I'm not gonna spoil it, but like I realized that in the middle of this podcast, Drew has been a baby Disney reporter for life, it's really in his blood, it's in his blood and we're so blessed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: to reap the benefits from it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So please, please enjoy happy end of the school year to all who are celebrating.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, without without any further ado, here is Drew Taylor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Drew Taylor, welcome to the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm so glad to be here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really have been bothering you for years to be on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I now have written enough annoying articles about Disney Park stuff that I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've earned my place on- I have convinced you have been on the podcast and granted my memory is bad, but I've convinced you being here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, we did it recently at BubbaGam Shremp at Citywalk, so...
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[SPEAKER_04]: You might be thinking about my episode with Todd.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This comes up and I was of a done.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're going to, but not put you on glass for what you ordered.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, we're going through our health journeys, all of us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we found an oddly amenable spot at Bubblegum, which I love.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Shock, shockingly friendly to the medical diet community on the last theme park.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Shockingly fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the trade off with the theme park, I feel is like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're walking so much that you can pretty much eat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could pretty much go to the trash can and shovel garbage into your mouth and you'd still be okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, calorically you're fine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But in terms of like, I'm going to be killed over in pain if I eat XYZ.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like my chicken breast, truly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I just cannot get a handful of protein.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this episode's off to a great start.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm glad to have you on for this mildly aggressive topic that you already have complained to me about, but I think it's going to be worth it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm really excited.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I will start things off because I know you have a probably like four feature stories to write.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, okay, most underrated experience.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go, I ended up, I thought about this, I'm going to go very basic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think mainstream and magic kingdom and the hub area is lovely and like, I think it delivers time after time you go there and you get that feeling when you walk in and you're like, oh, especially from a Disney life perspective, they're like, the castle's so big and you walk in and like, I know that they've remodel the hub and like people have their feelings, but
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[SPEAKER_04]: even though it's always busy like you got Casey's corner you got green space you have fountains you have beautiful fountains and just being there is like it really sets the tone for the day like oh we are here and we are about to go on an adventure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I-I-I
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, I think your Walt Disney World perspective is very interesting because you only started going like what 10 years ago or something or 11.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you weren't around when there were trees in the hub and I know I know it is a little
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[SPEAKER_04]: I, at this point, I just feel like 20, 26, the fact that we have any green space that isn't dedicated to selling an item, I'm like incredible.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's your end water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's your end water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The famously, well, this is the end world, not a fan of water these days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or shade.
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[UNKNOWN]: God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I think I love Waltz as a world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go with something even more basic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, which is either the people mover or the monorail, just in terms of a transportation experience, just amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just taking a glimpse around, and especially with,
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[SPEAKER_00]: bus is becoming so cumbersome to use these days at Walt Disney World and the blockers in terms of getting in between hotels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The monitor is really the only cheap, fast way to get between the marquee hotels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because even I love all the hotels that we want to go and do something stupid at Boardwalk or somewhere and it's like, how do we even
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[SPEAKER_00]: do the, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't believe like the dream of the Monrail holds up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, do you ever think about when Disney put in a bid to buy knots and they were going to build a Monorale along the freeway between point of park and and I'm that would have just been wonderful Like it makes me sick to my stomach to think about mass transit actually functioning like I can't yeah We're getting the people mover at LAX.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw testing the other day
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[SPEAKER_04]: bad on LA.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Any time soon.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not really going to put on my chips in for that play now because there's corners of that area that are like there's corners of the airport that are just very damp for no reason.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like it hasn't framed and yet there's like what areas?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like is it on small land?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what's happening there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't trust it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope the thing works but I don't I don't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I hope we find out soon enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I really love, I love the people mover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously ours was taken, taken violently from us in the great rocket rods uprising.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And has never been replaced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that you and I probably always look at all the attractions that the people mover goes through a Disneyland and just the moon, the fact that we could be on a slow moving, ride, enjoying a
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[SPEAKER_00]: Frosty cold coke from wherever and, you know, going through the Star Tourist Building and seeing our 2D2 and C3PO and you can actually do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I let little tabloes in the people mover at Walt Disney World, the woman with the hair thing and the icon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where my heart's at, a slow-moving functional transportation system.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I completely agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the line is never too long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Never.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Always, it's always fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's always fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Going up, going up the little walkway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Going up the walkway, love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, on to the next.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Most confounding decision, which I feel like you could actually write a thesis about all of them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And while I think you will choose the answer, while the go-to answer from you would obviously be the removal of Muppets courtyard, we do now have a Muppets coaster.
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[SPEAKER_04]: By the time this episode comes out, I will have been on it at the time of recording this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have never done it yet, but I do feel like the alternate reality plinko of it all has landed us with a Muppets coaster, so I'm not going to ask any questions and I'm not going to attempt fate because it wouldn't have happened otherwise.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So my most confounding decision is actually the
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[SPEAKER_04]: the WDI mandate that all hotels now look nor be like the design aesthetic for hotels for the rooms for the whenever they're opening a new coffee shop or restaurant it all looks married like it all looks generic hotel could be in any city everything is homogenized like you can't even tell the rooms apart between resorts at first glance and to me like I want to come here because it's themed like
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[SPEAKER_04]: I flew to Texas to go to a rainforest cafe with a ride inside like I don't want to be in a room It's just a little more pastel or a little more cool tone like I really want to themed environment in my room and I don't know why they're pulling all of that out instead of just updating it It's it's awful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really I mean
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember the first time I stayed at the Riviera, not the Riviera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Coronado Springs with the Destino Tower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember someone walking and going, this looks like a mega church.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that the problem that you have about this homogenization of the hotels also coincides with the fact that they have given up
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[SPEAKER_00]: giving actual them to the hotels in lieu of just a fixing IP to them because it used to be like the Polynesian was the Polynesian hotel and that was the theme.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't need marijuana slapped on everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The contemporary was the futuristic hotel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't need a incredible throw pillow on the bed to say that that was what it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like it's...
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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like the grand, even the grand Floridian is not safe with all of the, listen, Drew, the language I have spoken about, the grand Floridian that has podcast has gotten me in trouble, but the, it is, it is, it is giving, I'm so sorry about this, the world PR.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is giving way fair, top to bottom, the color palette they brought in, jewel tones, makes no sense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And like if you're going to put IP in, that's fine with me, but the choices made are confounding literally, the title of this, compared to what the resort
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I mean, I just don't understand what Beauty and the Beast has to do with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Half of the hotel already had some light-marry pop-ins stuff in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the little penguins in some of the other buildings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that used to be the classiest, most...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amazing hotel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, why not have a hotel theme to your grandmothers, you know, country estate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just let it be that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you took away the musicians.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You put that awful bar on the first floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: just have some follow through and it's just even little things like the the Mickey shaped rug in the yacht club is just like this is bad this is so bad like it was just great and what happened to beaches and cream over there too I mean like through through it it makes me sick to my stomach and I actually like hadn't looked at it and I actually took a look at it and it made me violently ill to see if it's terrible it is terrible
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know we'll talk about more about hotels later, but I think right now the most good founding decision as we're watching a giant pile of dirt get moved around one centimeter every week is the decimation of rivers of America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what are we doing here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I love that the kind of environmental impact was felt immediately by people waiting in line
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing cool coming off of that body of water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for what, for cars, like, come on, like give me something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I am a, I am a, I am a, I am a rivers of America removal truth there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, here, here is my thinking.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was such a bold borderline psychotic move of them to do that, that I think it has to be worth it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, it was so extreme to pull that out, that it has to be worth it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if it's not, I will scream about it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're on the wait and see approach.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm full wait and see because everybody internally had to have known that that was a crazy thing to announce.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just don't understand, you know, as Walt said in Florida, we have the benefit of size.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet in California where we have about six inches to try to squeeze a new, you know, meet and greet into, they went through all the trouble of just kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like moving the rivers of America when Star Wars land opened, like, we are the ones that should be getting rid of that river, but we kept it because it's so charming and lovely and such an essential part of the park.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what's going on with Tom Sawyer Island, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it feels like it is degrading by the day, and Fantasia is like two kids with glow sticks standing on that island.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Fantasia, yeah, Fantasma.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like ridiculous how bad it is right now,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with the wait and see approach, but you're right that the Muppets Cartier it was a big hit and especially someone who grew up as we both did, loving the Muppets and that being Jim's kind of last hurrah is a real kick in the nuts, but hopefully they've preserved it in some fashion that we can all enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But grateful that they gave us something because they didn't have to give us anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true, but I just don't know why you would update the projection like two years ago
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the last time I was in Florida with you was was epic universe a year ago, and that's when I went to Disney's Hollywood Studios for literally 90 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I paid $175 to watch Muppet Vision one last time and eat at the 50s prime time diners.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So not about day though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was well worth it for 90 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got a lot done, but yeah, yeah, it sucks, but yeah
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, best use of IP in a theme park.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I was, I struggled with this one because I was gonna say rise of the resistance, which I found recently for the first time in a minute, still holds up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was also gonna say finding Nemo in the living seas because I do feel like that really works well and it brings a lot of traffic into an area that I'm, is more museum-like.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not as thematic, but this is such a curveball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I weirdly think it's gonna be journey of water inspired by Melana.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have not been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let me preface this by saying the last time I was at another Disney park besides going to Hollywood Studios for five minutes was when we were at the start cruiser in 22 21 something like that RIP.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've not done Moana.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've not done Tron and I have not done Guardians.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh, we gotta get you there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, but go ahead, continue on Moana.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So like, journey of water makes literally no sense for Epcot and makes literally no sense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It shouldn't be there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It makes no sense and yet it works and it's lovely and it's deeply inoffensive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like you're just in the shadow of spaceship Earth in this very aquatic kind of tropical environment and it shouldn't work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the fact that it
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a nice little escape from the heat, and it's Moana, but it's not, it's more like nature first IP second.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that they brought in kind of the themes of Moana, and they do have a character character meet and greet nearby, but it doesn't feel overtly IP, and yet it is intrinsically tied to one of their properties.
19:40
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just, I think it's just such a unique approach, and it really, they really accomplished a lot with it.
19:47
[SPEAKER_04]: And I never thought I was going to work.
19:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was going to be a huge disaster.
19:49
[SPEAKER_04]: And they kind of slayed it.
19:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And it does.
19:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait.
19:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.
19:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with Star Tours, particularly the Hollywood studio Star Tours, because I just love the whole ATAT facade and the Ewok village and all of that.
20:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And particularly the first version of Star Tours, I feel like, is just
20:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So magical.
20:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It's from such a pure period and it's like, and that's also really kind of like one of the last vestiges of Disney MGM studios too.
20:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I love it.
20:21
[SPEAKER_04]: It feels good to be over there.
20:23
[SPEAKER_04]: It does as long as you can block out the trauma, just beyond, just to have like it just feels so nice to be in like that little exit gift shop just feels so.
20:32
[SPEAKER_00]: give shop is great the studio catering company next door has a lot of cool stuff and it even though the food is like borderline poison it's uh it's well there's like uh there's like a horizons prop in there and uh a vehicle from the making a Roger Abbott and
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, as a young nerd going to MGM when it opened was like, it was a pretty profound experience, particularly with the animation element.
21:01
[SPEAKER_04]: So, oh, yeah, that is like, wow.
21:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're right.
21:04
[SPEAKER_04]: If I was just like inventing a person that would have been your own story.
21:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great time for my autism to be undying those that a young age, as I, as I knew in cyclopiedic facts about Disney animated projects that hadn't been announced yet.
21:19
[SPEAKER_04]: But hey, but if that really paid off, look at me.
21:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in a closet now talking to you.
21:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:25
[SPEAKER_04]: But you've been like 400 books, and also, that's right, you know what?
21:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to remind everybody that they can pre-order a copy of the art of Wildwood, which is all about the new
21:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want a pre-order, it will be a great Halloween gift, a great Christmas gift, whatever you want.
21:41
[SPEAKER_00]: From Resoli, I mean, that's a high-class brand, you know, and love, Carly, you know?
21:45
[SPEAKER_04]: So it is Resoli Fancy, but also, I think you're the first guest to promo mid episode, which means that, you know what you're doing as a podcast.
21:51
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't, you can't cut it out now.
21:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's impossible.
21:53
[SPEAKER_00]: There would be no one.
21:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I would never cut it out.
21:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I would never cut it out.
21:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Never.
21:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Drumscare to the next one.
21:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm scared of the next one.
22:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we might have the same one.
22:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think so.
22:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Because something that I never really talk about.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, good.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
22:07
[SPEAKER_04]: And also, okay.
22:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I think, so the next superlative is worst use of IP anything park.
22:13
[SPEAKER_04]: And I, I feel like generally you are more sour on IP being anything parks than I am.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I am because I lived through the Halsian days of very little theming or not very little, but at least an attempt at kind of IP purity where the parks had their own identity, you know, you could walk into a park and know that it was different than the other based on what was there, whereas I feel like now Walt Disney World has
22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of been infected by the magic kingdom mind virus where every every park is kind of the same
22:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I feel like Animal Kingdom has held on to it's weird kind of burning man style identity longer than the others, but I feel like that might be on the way out, but yeah, if they're so different true, we have what with like a whole aquarium, well, we have the other one with a safari, I guess those two are pretty similar.
23:10
[SPEAKER_04]: And then how are the studios is like whatever that's like a Pinterest board of stuff.
23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is, it's like it's the junk drawer of the of the parks.
23:18
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the et cetera folder on your desktop.
23:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: That is 100% correct.
23:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, but guess where my worst use if I pee is located.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let's hear it.
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hear it.
23:30
[SPEAKER_04]: So okay.
23:31
[SPEAKER_04]: So for the record, I love IP and a theme park, which I know a lot of people who work in this sphere do not agree.
23:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I know that they would think I'm wrong, but I, because I view the parks as originally an outsider and I do feel like you should be seeing the characters and storylines that you
23:48
[SPEAKER_04]: that you exist with outside of the parks in the parks.
23:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I feel like when you travel to Disney's physical location, you should be able to have all these touchpoints from all the characters and shows and movies and things that you watch.
23:58
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I think.
24:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you should show up at Epcot and be like, what?
24:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, who are these characters that I don't know thing about?
24:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Who is figment?
24:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
24:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Whoa.
24:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.
24:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I like.
24:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I like the attraction, but for the general guest experience, I think just the way the Walt Disney Company is now, and with streaming of a Disney Plus being such a big part of people's lives, like you should be able to see a lot of that stuff when you arrive there.
24:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Personally, that is my take, however.
24:24
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't always think that IP is done well.
24:27
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that the worst use of IP is actually Toy Storyland.
24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting, okay.
24:34
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they did a good job with like we love a big object that's fun, but at the end of the day like that land is not a good time like that land is not joyful and I feel like for something tied to this fun silly like larger than life IP it should be
24:52
[SPEAKER_04]: There should be more exciting to be there.
24:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, alien swirling saucers was like barely functioning at the beginning.
24:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's just so rickety.
25:01
[SPEAKER_04]: The coaster's great, but like waiting for it is a mess.
25:04
[SPEAKER_04]: There's not enough shade in that land.
25:06
[SPEAKER_04]: They've like done stuff to rectify that, but it's like so hot there.
25:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And like meeting the characters, like the character, meeting great experience, isn't what you, there's a disconnect, like meeting a big toy is not, it doesn't feel the same as like being small in a big land themed to toys.
25:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that is better than the actual characters.
25:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I just think that the Toy Storyland as a whole should feel like you should go there and just feel like an out-of-body experience and I don't think it delivers that.
25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It should have been more like Bugsland.
25:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
25:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
25:39
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is that we've had those characters in the parks to varying degrees for so long that when it opened it was like,
25:50
[SPEAKER_04]: it was fun and against linking dog dash fans how I think that is a perfect coaster great family ride still thrilling fun to see it move like kinetic energy through the land that is all great but it just there's there's a piece missing there and even the addition of the barbecue restaurant like it's closed off to the land so you can't really see it and like the food is fun and they just have like a like a little chaos but it just I don't know it doesn't it doesn't
26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I might minor split between to this is going to this is going to be real hot takes but I know you agree with at least one of them between Mickey's runaway railway in Hollywood studios and of course frozen ever after in Epcot because I know how big a fan you are of dark always but you know losing maelstrom for that it was like it should have had its own ride probably in Magic Kingdom.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: but kind of like frog marching it into Epcot and removing a beloved attraction like maelstrom, not to move.
26:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I completely disagree.
26:56
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't like, you don't like that red.
26:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the thing, they changed the faces.
27:02
[SPEAKER_04]: So I feel like they have made good on half of it.
27:04
[SPEAKER_04]: And while I do think it is clinical that they have not rectified a black hallway within an attraction, like, come on guys, just put in some five rockets of light so you can get them on Amazon.
27:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I do think that having frozen in that land has really breathed new life into the world showcase,
27:23
[SPEAKER_04]: for families that because people are now coming here from all the movies that they're watching eight times a day at home, like I think that it really has made world showcase more relevant to a larger crowd, and I think it's like solidify that it's going to be there forever.
27:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it probably will be, I mean, the fact that they've cloned it and put it in a bunch of other parks, too, is.
27:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I think adding that character boost, like having those little character moments when you walk through World Showcase, I think really increases the relevancy.
27:49
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know that's like fun.
27:50
[SPEAKER_04]: It would have been fun without when it was just countries.
27:52
[SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, we're living in a culture now.
27:55
[SPEAKER_04]: We're like, I'm scrolling through a new video every point eight seconds.
27:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I need to be stimulated by something.
28:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
28:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And it does.
28:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I mean, to me, it's less about.
28:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the same thing with Mickey and Minis, if it was anywhere else, but taking over the great movie ride, I would have been way more into it because I love that ride.
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a big fan of bugs, the gangster that takes over your vehicle, you know, I, I know, but can you imagine taking
28:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Someone who like didn't grow up with these parks to the version of that park that had great movie ride Can you imagine and then being like is this great and then being like all of these figures look like they're melting?
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean it is the thesis attraction.
28:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be like it would be like Epcot without spaceship Earth That's my that's how I feel about it.
28:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It is sort of like the thesis attraction for that park It would be like you know putting like a
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, turning the Kilimanjaro Safari into like Nick and Judy's, you know, fun time don't I shouldn't give anyone ideas, but yeah.
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So that that's just I feel like without the IP it was a pure experience for both parks and yeah, I agree that that world showcase needs a little in liveening, but I feel like
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I would really love to see attractions in the pre-existing lands.
29:23
[UNKNOWN]: We need something new in Royal showcase.
29:27
[UNKNOWN]: I do agree with that.
29:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree, which I think does segue perfectly into my choice for most likely to close by 2028.
29:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I want to hear this.
29:51
[SPEAKER_00]: What is this?
29:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to be, and this is no intel.
29:53
[SPEAKER_04]: This is just gut.
29:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to be grandfiesta tour.
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
29:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that they could do so much more with a preexisting fully functioning ride that exists at the start of World Showcase.
30:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, like, does it make sense to do a cocoa or not?
30:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, but I think that that ride, if they made that a marquee attraction, I think it would really boost the park, especially location-wise, and such a really, really helpful way.
30:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think it would be better to put it there or something deeper into, put a new attraction deeper into real showcase?
30:33
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, but Grant Fiesta Tourn Nobody's really talking about it, no one's really looking at it.
30:38
[SPEAKER_04]: We, I go on it regularly, but it's not tied to anything that is currently driving income and I just feel like that is a space where if they updated it, people wouldn't be terribly upset and it would be mostly beneficial.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the problem is there's no queue space within that building, so I think you would have to bump it out, that's the back right, which would then you're kind of like you're buttressing store.
31:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know.
31:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but then you're like in front of the restaurant.
31:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you'd have to take out all that stuff.
31:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you would have to actually go.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you've ever been backstage in between Mexico and what's the next pavilion over whatever the next pavilion over is.
31:25
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a fair amount of backstage area back there.
31:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there is.
31:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you do hit World of Motion eventually, but, or sorry, test track, the way, wow, I'm really sure.
31:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
31:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, gee, gee.
31:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I think that there is room, and I know they've talked about it.
31:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where this attraction that's coming to DCA was initially, you know, contemplated.
31:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you'd have to do a lot.
31:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I say, why not keep both?
31:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I would love that.
31:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I would I would always love a new ride.
31:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I what what is most likely to close by 2028 is there any water that is is still in the and while this is a route that they are they want to get rid of.
32:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I I don't know.
32:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that.
32:16
[SPEAKER_04]: But like thinking critically, you like, you're someone who like knows all the rumors, knows the things they've been talking about, like what's up, what's a property that you feel like you would hear them announce this August.
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I do, I do wonder if one of the water parks will actually go away.
32:31
[SPEAKER_00]: interesting because I feel like they're not making enough money on both of them.
32:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this summer is the first time they've both been open at the same time in five years and I just wonder if it's just too much of a pain to keep operating these.
32:50
[SPEAKER_00]: that is a good one right like I just I don't know if the demand is that the last time they had a new slide was in typhoon lagoon the miss what ever falls yeah miss adventure falls yeah but like there's been nothing at at Blizzard Beach for years they've added like little statues of frozen characters and things but like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really wonder and especially it's a it's a remnant of that era that is just has not been followed through on at all, you know, so Drew, that's genius and think about how much real estate that would open up to for for anything and especially if You know, it is such a hotel benefit at the moment and then two of them having one would still fulfill
33:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely, they're never maxed out, you know, the other thing is we have to put bets on whatever this thing is that's coming into the haunted space that was the MBA experience.
33:57
[SPEAKER_00]: That area of Dizzy Springs feels like the back corner of our city walk with like book and info and the shoe palace where it's just like nobody is going there.
34:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just like burn it down.
34:09
[SPEAKER_04]: It feels like if you, if you were there, like you could close your eyes and you could be like, ah, the cigar store, ah, the comic book shop, like it would all still be there.
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh yeah.
34:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But this kind of stuff is here, yeah, but you could close your eyes and say, uh, bongo's or whatever it's got.
34:25
[SPEAKER_04]: They have a cigar store until they re-recent.
34:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
34:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I say bring back pleasure island.
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I say, but oh, yeah.
34:33
[SPEAKER_04]: People, I, I mean, they would make so much money.
34:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I know if they charge cover, they would make so much money.
34:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Every night was New Year's Eve.
34:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you imagine what that was like let me sell you on a world Feel like this podcast is really bringing up your park changing trauma, but hey, the really I mean it's
34:55
[SPEAKER_04]: times they are a changing but anyway okay okay so the next one is most nostalgic right you've already set me up for this but go ahead tell me what you're nostalgic we've already discussed my most nostalgic because to me it needs to be I have a few childhood memories of going to Disney world but it needs to be something that ties to that for me it needs to be legitimate old school
35:22
[SPEAKER_04]: It needs air conditioning, like you have to have the rhyme smell.
35:24
[SPEAKER_04]: It has to like, you have to smell the mechanics working.
35:28
[SPEAKER_04]: And so, while there are pockets of Epcot that do fill that void, I think it's specifically the Monorail Inside Disney's Contemporary Resort.
35:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:40
[SPEAKER_04]: because when you, if you see an old postcard or an old photo, the atrium looks very close to the same.
35:46
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not so different that it's like, oh my gosh, what we once had, it looks kind of similar and the station feels impossibly dated like that tiny escalator, not be cleared these days.
35:57
[SPEAKER_04]: It just feels so retro.
35:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, oh, like a little taste, I just love it.
36:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it so much.
36:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I know we we we should bring back those weird plastic trees that used to be in that air trim.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So cool.
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Monterele bar to but you're right you can you can you can I understand what you're saying where you can still like drift off the vibe in there because you can't really see much incredible from there.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, not at all.
36:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And Mary Blair's Grand Canyon mural is so incredible.
36:26
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the great pieces of Disney art, I think.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're right, and it's still like a showstopping moment, just entering that space via Monarelle.
36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It's incredible, especially if you see old photos where there was nothing in between and how the contemporary was built because of its vantage point from the magic kingdom because it's like one continuum from Tamaralan to the contemporary, just beautiful.
36:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful master planning at work.
36:56
[SPEAKER_00]: True, true.
36:58
[SPEAKER_00]: hotel, you know, of choice.
37:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, really, this one and often, but, you know, I think that it's, is this your most nostalgic?
37:06
[SPEAKER_04]: This one.
37:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, it, it feels like,
37:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like a very specific era.
37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Like all of the kind of crescent lake hotels because they were master planed by Michael Graves and Bob Stern and Bob Stern built the boardwalk.
37:21
[SPEAKER_00]: They were got in beach club and then Michael Graves built this one and dolphin.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was a time when Disney really invested in architecture in a way that has not happened since.
37:34
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a great,
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, New York Times article from the time where Michael Eisner talks about having the best architects like having the best directors at the studio, and him kind of collecting all of these people.
37:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would say the only other place that does it is my beloved Disneyland Paris, which is just so incredible.
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was actually out to dinner with some corpse com people, and I was complaining about things, and they were like,
37:59
[SPEAKER_00]: What what what problem do you have with the hotel New York and I was like it was good before you put a bunch of iron man suits in it and she was like, oh my god But anyway, uh, yeah, I mean like it really does feel like that late night eight light 80s early 90s like anything is possible at Walt Disney World like we're going to build something new every year like when you think about 1989 and the fact that pleasure island
38:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Typhoon Lagoon, uh, the wonders of life, and Disney YouTube studios were all, you know, opening at the same time.
38:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's insane.
38:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And now it takes 10 years to bulldoze the rivers of America.
38:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just like crazy.
38:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I feel like that design aesthetic and that hotel, those hotels really spoke to that optimism and creativity that we just have not had in the decades since.
38:59
[SPEAKER_04]: But I know I know and as as much as Michael Graves architecture does make my tummy turn a little, it's like whenever you see I stuff and like you start to just fill ill something about it just unsettles me, but I am so grateful that we have that area over there because I don't think anything would be built like that now.
39:16
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and obviously that area was also master planned for things that never happened like a lagoon show that would have had a subterranean level where you were actually looking at like I level with the water.
39:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean there's so many crazy things that they'd planned and it is very ironic that the failure of Disneyland Paris ended up canceling a bunch of these things, but
39:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why I loved it.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to Disney Paris for the first time last year and like the fact that it is such an untouched like 90s relic is just incredible.
39:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
39:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing.
39:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really amazing.
39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of Disney town was still super, super po-mo.
39:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Although now they're taking down the, the Bobster, or the Frank Gary rainforest cafe and stuff.
40:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no.
40:05
[SPEAKER_04]: The fact that like Frank Geary isn't the same sentence as a downtown Disney is crazy.
40:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, it's amazing.
40:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
40:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really appreciate it.
40:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I as a nurse commitment to that bit, even if it made know financial or design sense.
40:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree.
40:23
[SPEAKER_04]: And we have to reap the benefits of it.
40:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I appreciate to be have
40:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Now we have so many different styles of hotels, not thematically, for aforementioned reasons, but at least like the layout of them, because now we're building a ton of towers, but yes.
40:36
[SPEAKER_04]: We have these like beach club dog club are so low, just only a few floors and they're so white, like I don't think they've ever designed like that again.
40:44
[SPEAKER_04]: It's really nice to have those infrastructure.
40:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard that some of that is actually hurricane prevention measures.
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:53
[SPEAKER_04]: But then we'll then we'll get it forever.
40:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, it sucks that like what there's no iconic hotel like whatever this thing they're building where river country used to be is just the most anonymous series of buildings Disney's Lakeside Lodge.
41:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, correct.
41:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can know.
41:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I, you can see it very clearly from the most popular areas of Disney's Fort Wilderness, which I think takes you out of the Fort Wilderness story in a way I don't appreciate.
41:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Will the trees grow?
41:24
[SPEAKER_04]: That's been everyone's aesthetics at the beginning of time that they just plant tiny little twigs and they're like, you won't see anything in 30 years.
41:31
[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know what it's actually going to be like a few years down the road, but the thing is, if they have a lazy river, which I feel like someone said they did,
41:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, well, anything top storm along Bay though.
41:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that is like, that to me is like the greatest pool scenario of any hotel.
41:52
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
41:54
[SPEAKER_04]: It is so good.
41:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really good.
41:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a, that's like a water park in and of itself, really.
41:59
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's just, I mean, just to go back to the hotel thing really quick.
42:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Like,
42:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I do feel like all these changes were made to hotels to appeal to origin or nation, so that like people like you and I who aren't as obsessed with Disney would be like, oh, a nice hotel at Disney, this is nice, it's minimal, it's nice.
42:15
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think people are coming they're coming here for the theming, they're coming here for the whimsy, they're whimsy Maxing, and there's no whimsy to be Max anymore.
42:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and I feel like again, I feel like they're trying to insert whimsy by putting up a horrible lithograph of Moana on the wall and not actually investing in anything truly immersive.
42:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, but that has that is happening, right?
42:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they are inserting that stuff.
42:43
[SPEAKER_04]: like a poly room that has like a bunch of random fake plastic plants in it.
42:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Wouldn't it be fun?
42:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be so fun.
42:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And it used to be like that.
42:50
[SPEAKER_00]: We used to have it all.
42:52
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a, I mean, yeah, the Polynesians atrium was so special.
42:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't, I can't, I can't, I'm so glad I got to see it, but I didn't appreciate it.
43:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Right now.
43:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you walked in and it was like, that is what you're talking about.
43:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You walk in and you are transported like that.
43:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And the same thing with the grand flirty and walking in and being at a turn of the century, you know, a state is just, it was amazing.
43:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
43:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's, that's the Disney difference.
43:20
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why people want to book with you.
43:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And I, I feel like especially so many hotels are opening in the Orlando area.
43:27
[SPEAKER_04]: And as there are more reasons than ever with all of them opening to not stay with Disney, I feel like we got to juice it up you guys.
43:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Like we got to make it,
43:35
[SPEAKER_04]: not Disney in terms of like showing a character like Disney's was like show what's your creativity within the theme that we already have established here, which is going not everything I said earlier about the theme park, but I said behind it.
43:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, but don't you get enough of that in the theme park?
43:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Like do you really need like to be assaulted?
43:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I went, we walked into the Pixar place, I know this is Disneyland, but God, that hotel is just,
44:00
[SPEAKER_00]: awful and it's like it's bad it's bad it's really low rent and yeah having walley rolling through the lobby is not going to really change the fact that they're the restaurant is a great maple I don't know yeah there's just like
44:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, maybe they at hotel 50, they were like, we can't figure out anything else to do with these hotels, but it's, it's bad.
44:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's bad.
44:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, okay, I don't want to keep you forever.
44:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, worst waste of time.
44:33
[SPEAKER_00]: God, what are you gonna say?
44:36
[SPEAKER_04]: My mission space.
44:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I don't totally agree with that, but we should have in attraction that has on board farfags.
44:45
[SPEAKER_04]: We shouldn't, if you, if you might throw up on it so much that they give you a barfag, we shouldn't have that anymore.
44:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But there are barfags on the Pixar Palor out.
44:56
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
44:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was just on one of the swinging ones and they were barf bags in the door.
45:01
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
45:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, add it to the list.
45:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's out of here.
45:06
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, we, what are we doing here?
45:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Like this way should be enjoyable.
45:10
[SPEAKER_04]: We shouldn't be getting ill from the attractions.
45:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think mission spaces is cool that they've used a new kind of technology and I love the animation from ILM.
45:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's very cool.
45:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I agree that you shouldn't be dangerous to go on a Disney ride.
45:27
[SPEAKER_04]: These days like, again, if vacation day from work is a whole thing, gas money is so much, you save your book, you plan, you do the lighting, you do it all, and then your family wants to go on a ride and you're sitting on it and you're like, oh, no, I'm going to hurl.
45:42
[SPEAKER_04]: No, thank you.
45:43
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not what it does.
45:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Nefication should be.
45:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
45:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I'm going to say is the worst way to the time, the app.
45:50
[SPEAKER_00]: having to go on vacation, you're with your family.
45:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you don't see him that much and you are glued to your phone and it is the worst app that has ever been designed by humankind and that you are just stuck on there like you're a junkie on your app, on your phone, the whole trip because you're trying to get the next lightning lane and trying to get dinner reservations and all this stuff, it used to be so easy.
46:19
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm pulling on my phone to show you because this is, this is, this makes me I rate true and obviously people listening aren't going to see what I'll explain to you.
46:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Look at you opening up.
46:29
[SPEAKER_04]: All it is.
46:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you see that?
46:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
46:31
[SPEAKER_04]: All it is is an ad for lightning lane and an ad for lightning lane premiere.
46:35
[SPEAKER_04]: So, this is the homepage of the app.
46:37
[SPEAKER_04]: This, I got you start to see my computer.
46:38
[SPEAKER_04]: This is your name.
46:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Then it's by lightning lane, by lightning lane.
46:41
[SPEAKER_04]: When you open the app, you cannot do or see anything but purchase lightning lane.
46:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
46:48
[SPEAKER_04]: that's insane that the app to physically get around to do anything to eat to like contact gas services.
46:54
[SPEAKER_04]: It's only the homepage of it is only lightning lane.
46:58
[SPEAKER_04]: It's only selling you lightning lane.
46:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:01
[SPEAKER_04]: That's absurd.
47:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's the modern Disney company.
47:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's really bad.
47:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's
47:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the the act of going and getting a fast pass.
47:13
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a physical activity.
47:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You had something tangible.
47:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You knew when to come back and you know what?
47:18
[SPEAKER_00]: The two hours in between.
47:21
[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't have to look at anything.
47:22
[SPEAKER_00]: You went and rode stuff.
47:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You got a churro.
47:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You had a conversation with your father about why you're such a disappointment to him.
47:30
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you did these things.
47:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You engaged in a way that,
47:35
[SPEAKER_00]: that you can't anymore because you're glued to your phone like a gambling addict.
47:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It's bad.
47:41
[SPEAKER_04]: This is part of the reason why when I go and grant it, I have the privilege that I go often.
47:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I won't.
47:46
[SPEAKER_04]: I usually don't buy lightning lane or don't buy it for the whole trip because we need days where we just appreciate the parks for what they are.
47:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
47:52
[SPEAKER_04]: When we're like walking around animal kingdom, not worried about how we're going to get on a ride, like we'll just wait 30 minutes for something.
47:58
[SPEAKER_04]: It's fine.
47:59
[SPEAKER_04]: But we need to be able to enjoy these spaces and not just be
48:04
[SPEAKER_04]: because that's what the app is dictated.
48:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think what it is is part of this whole thing about them being so expensive, which I understand completely.
48:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you want to max every... Oh, because you're purgisless like being made.
48:18
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not even purgisless like being made.
48:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying just going to the parks is so...
48:24
[SPEAKER_00]: time-consuming and so debt-inducing that you want everything you can out of it that you're just like in this frenzy like this is a vacation you're supposed to be enjoying things but you're not you are just glued to this thing it's really really sucks
48:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't blame anyone for it because that's what happens to my brain.
48:44
[SPEAKER_04]: When I buy lightning lane, I feel a shift in my brain where it's like, what are we going to do?
48:48
[SPEAKER_04]: How are we going to plan?
48:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I just become a menace and I'm no fun to be around, which is why like, I have days when we try to maximize stuff.
48:54
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it's got to be neighbored by days where we just enjoy the place that we're at.
48:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it is, it is one of the most incredible kind of like artistic and design accomplishments in the world.
49:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's the, I think it's the single largest one location employer in the world as well, Disney World.
49:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the levels of this place are just astounding and the fact that you don't really get to appreciate all that is, it's a bummer.
49:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bummer.
49:24
[SPEAKER_04]: It's really rough.
49:24
[SPEAKER_04]: I hope one day there's just a way where you can buy individual, not even though individual like me was a product, you can buy a single lightning lane and then you can be like, I today we are doing this and this just for like not the top tier rise just for anything individual prices basically take me back to ABCDE ticket books and then you'll know you go on some stuff and then you don't have to worry about booking it like you buy the individual ones and it's not like we have to maximize the 30 something dollars.
49:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it it costing I remember recent maybe a year so go I was there and we got single lightning lane for Rise the resistance in Disneyland and I remember my wife said that those two lightning lanes cost as much as dinner And it was like and it was like Jesus.
50:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's rough.
50:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really it's tough
50:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, anyway.
50:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
50:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the app.
50:20
[SPEAKER_04]: The fact that I've just, oh, that's what, that.
50:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, the all-in-one Disney app, I'm sure will be a flawless experience for us all.
50:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just knowing that I opened Disney Plus to show my child Blueie, and it's just horror films.
50:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, it's going really great, guys.
50:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:35
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going really great.
50:36
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never watched a single or rated anything on Hulu.
50:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I exclusively watch Procedurals, and yet they're like, do you want to see these aggressive?
50:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, like, just, like, prey, which is like popped up.
50:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
50:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm not watching this.
50:50
[SPEAKER_04]: and yet I'm on here for my child that's happening.
50:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I don't need things integrated.
50:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, thank you.
50:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
50:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
50:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, speaking of best non lightning lane attraction, it's going to be people mover.
51:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously.
51:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we can both agree on that.
51:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously.
51:03
[SPEAKER_04]: And the last one I have for you, Drew, the wish we could have it back award.
51:08
[SPEAKER_04]: There are many contenders.
51:10
[SPEAKER_04]: There are many contenders.
51:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm toward between two.
51:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm wondering if you know yours.
51:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also torn between you, but I would love to hear what yours.
51:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, my two, first, Muppets Mobile Lab.
51:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
51:24
[SPEAKER_04]: The fact that you could just be an Epcot thriving, just like, ooh, in that period of time, it was still old retro Epcot.
51:30
[SPEAKER_04]: And then all of a sudden, there's Muppets wandering around.
51:34
[SPEAKER_04]: And you could just like be a part of a show, unbelievable.
51:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it'll come back.
51:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
51:42
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I mean, you know it's currently sitting somewhere.
51:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we've all seen it as we all.
51:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Are we allowed to talk?
51:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that allowed to talk?
51:50
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think so.
51:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I think it's on the public tours.
51:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's in WDI and a corner.
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
51:55
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's there.
51:56
[SPEAKER_04]: It's there.
51:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not, you know, it's glad it's still somewhere.
51:59
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's inside and that's where it belongs.
52:02
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think I really, really wish I could see Osborne family spectacle of dancing lights again.
52:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I really just wish I had one more go.
52:10
[SPEAKER_00]: that was a really special thing that they did beautiful yeah and it's still it gave you a reason to go on that back lot area that you didn't yeah it's nice yeah it's sad isn't it yeah I know it's nice to like be like it's the holidays and I'm milling around and there's like not a lot of that at night time just like oh there's not yeah something we're gonna bring it somewhere else or something but
52:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're just like hang up some lights somewhere, like just, yeah, just let me like spend like what 11 dollars on a themed hot cocoa and just like pretend it's winter and walk around.
52:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
52:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is coming from a Jewish woman everyone.
52:52
[SPEAKER_00]: She wants your Christmas lights.
52:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
52:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree I mean my true Disney nerd answer is of course horizons at that Epcot.
53:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean old Epcot was pretty amazing.
53:06
[SPEAKER_00]: World of motion was great.
53:08
[SPEAKER_00]: The centaurium is maybe the the retail location that I missed the most but
53:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that peak Disney MGM studios was really where I've been gravitating towards recently.
53:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I'm saying like yeah, 80s, 90s monster sound show, you know, the magic of Disney animation as a young man getting to walk by actual animators was pretty incredible.
53:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it clearly influenced you to do it.
53:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I remember going backstage during a backstage tour one time, like a pret like one of those kind of upcharge ones and ask it was this this was the summer of 94.
53:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So lanking hadn't come out yet, but I was like, what's going on with Mulan?
53:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember the guide turning around and saying, how do you know about Mulan?
53:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was because I would like clip out things from the newspaper anytime I would see anything like Disney animation like alluding to their slate whatever I would clip it out and so I I was asked if it was coming along no And Melon came out in 97 so yeah, I'm sorry you weren't you were not researching
54:18
[SPEAKER_04]: reporting and asking questions that irritated Disney leadership while you were a child now.
54:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, you know what, you're right.
54:26
[SPEAKER_00]: This is this really was the my villain origin story.
54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, true.
54:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It's true.
54:32
[UNKNOWN]: You're just doing what you did as a kid.
54:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's true.
54:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't change everyone listening out there.
54:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Do not change.
54:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
54:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
54:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was really amazing.
54:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
54:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You never got to see that.
54:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, but I, I am very encouraged by this new version of the animation area.
54:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, I have a different answer for the back of the word.
54:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I want the bottomless nacho cheese that they used to have in some of the restaurants.
55:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, in the like condiment area.
55:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he goes bill.
55:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
55:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
55:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
55:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Cosmic great.
55:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Like they used to have the, yeah.
55:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Bottomless nacho cheese.
55:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It would probably kill you at this point.
55:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I could have like maybe eaten my weight in Nacho cheese while sitting next to Sonia clips.
55:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I would have never left.
55:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
55:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember when the the each bay was a different menu?
55:27
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
55:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Eat one was chicken, one was hot dogs, the hammer is one was something else.
55:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, if it wasn't like better food than it is now.
55:34
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, but it was at least a little bit more variety.
55:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
55:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anywhere more cursed than sunny eclipses little area?
55:42
[SPEAKER_04]: I know, I think that little pocket is good.
55:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that little pocket is good.
55:46
[SPEAKER_04]: There are more cursed areas.
55:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, there's just like 10,000 tables in there.
55:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
55:53
[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty lawless.
55:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that it's shocking how bad Disney World's food is.
55:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Compared to Disneyland.
55:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're pretty blessed at Disneyland.
55:59
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, I have my, I have my go-tos.
56:03
[SPEAKER_00]: What's your favorite, what's your favorite sit-down restaurant in the entire resort?
56:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I, well, for, like, an entire restaurant.
56:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it depends what the situation is.
56:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's like, do I want a nice meal?
56:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it a character dining?
56:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I got to say, I hadn't gone.
56:21
[SPEAKER_04]: They my entire tenure of working.
56:23
[SPEAKER_04]: And then my friend Brandon was like, you were going here.
56:26
[SPEAKER_04]: And he took me to beer garden.
56:28
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, oh, this is it for me.
56:30
[SPEAKER_04]: This is my final resting place.
56:32
[SPEAKER_04]: It is the fact that someone opened a door and they were like welcome to 90s up caught and that it's still like retro and there's life music and you feel like you're outdoors or you're into like that place to me.
56:43
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like what like this is still here and I just loved it for so long yeah that that to me is the most special
56:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a good choice.
56:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I- What about you?
56:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, flying fish.
56:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I love, again, crescently.
57:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I went there recently.
57:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone downhill.
57:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, because now it's like, they made it a pretty Normie fancy.
57:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Ugh.
57:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
57:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Now.
57:11
[SPEAKER_04]: They made it a rare pair.
57:12
[SPEAKER_00]: God help us.
57:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It's terrible.
57:15
[SPEAKER_00]: This is absolutely the most depressing podcast I've ever read.
57:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so excited.
57:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
57:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like this is maybe a therapy appointment for you.
57:21
[SPEAKER_04]: It really.
57:22
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so sorry.
57:22
[SPEAKER_00]: We're working through some stuff.
57:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I think 50's prime time is amazing.
57:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
57:31
[SPEAKER_01]: The food is so good.
57:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all good and free.
57:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It is?
57:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, even the meatloaf.
57:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
57:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
57:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
57:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, maybe I will go there.
57:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's taken a little dip quality rise, but the TV is the, it's just so early, MGM.
57:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And sci-fi, I love aesthetically, but the food, yeah.
57:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't love, I don't love just like eating on top of a stranger like that.
57:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't like that.
57:58
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not great.
57:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, could we make them the loop of the stuff on the screen a little longer, please?
58:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
58:05
[SPEAKER_04]: What if they played, what if they just played like, top goin?
58:08
[UNKNOWN]: I mean.
58:09
[SPEAKER_04]: But if we bought it out, and we were like, can you just blast fall out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm now, now we're talking, now we are talking.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is, you know, that is my 40th birthday plan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's to find someone to screen mission possible for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we can make it happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, well, you're obviously going to, I'll do whatever I can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's basically a birthday party for you and me and Charles.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Charles is not invited, but yeah, it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do whatever I can.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The dream, just, we used to have an all-drew.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the theme of this episode.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, thank you for making me miss a Disney I never knew for coming on the pod.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Making me realize that our eight-year-old selves are really shaping our future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They really are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I really
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[SPEAKER_00]: Out first of all, I'll come back on for any time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've actually written a lot of things recently that probably could have gotten me on this pod, but would maybe a two controversial for For a Disney PR to handle, but I hope I see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hi, this is Beth calling from Indianapolis, and I have an interesting situation coming up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So my grandfather recently passed away, and now my aunt has some inheritance, and I have what she wanted to do with, if she could do something fun, if she went to a Disney trip.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's saying, me take the knee, so that's enough use, and my mom, and you know, all people and I can't go over the years, and want to turn to the magic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As we were talking about it, she also talked about how she thought a Disney cruise might be a good idea too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't think we could do land and sea for the first ship, she runs through one or the other.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do we decide between a Disney world trip or a Disney cruise ship?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've done many of the times Disney world, but I have not done Disney cruise, so I can't see from personal experience there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to send a while and love video getting to see the ocean, but want to experience the magic that she's seen us all do over the years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Disney crews.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was yelling Disney crews halfway through your call before I even got to this point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Disney crews.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Disney Cruz, your family has just been also my condolences, by the way, I'm so sorry for your loss, but your family has just been through something big, a really big change, and Disney Cruz, Disney Cruz, I just feel like the thing is planning a trip to Disney World is incredible, it's my favorite place in the entire world and I've been to many places.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Disney World is fantastic, but it requires a lot of planning and work and effort, and that's not what y'all need right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What you guys need is to spend time together as a family on vacation with Disney magic and that is textbook definition for Disney cruise line.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I cannot recommend you choose Disney cruise line enough for this exact trip.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, if a bit of you is like, hmm, I really want to do Disney World.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can always add even like a day before after, like it's very doable to just do a tiny bit of Disney world as part of this trip, but I'm telling you, as somebody who is currently standing here, having gone with a toddler recently, and now in the future, my mom went on both trips, like there's a lot of planning, when there's a lot of people involved, I'm just telling you, going to Disney Cruise.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You guys are going to get full Disney, Disney magic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to get all the Disney experiences and you're being going to be able to be on vacation, but also specifically for what we're talking about here, I think your family is going to really want to be together and having those like set dining times, having times when you know the whole family will be together during the day without having to have someone book and plan and plot, even if you use a travel agent, there is still some planning
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[SPEAKER_04]: you know, you're still involved in your own trip.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And because you've been to Disney World, I'm sure your wheels are gonna turn the same way where it's like, ooh, we did this, we could do this, we could do this, this would be nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Put all that aside, go on a Disney cruise, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll, go on a Disney cruise, go on a Disney cruise.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That, I think that is the choice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope you have so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna be, I think it's also like relaxing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if your, if your relative is already mentioned that they want to be able to look at the water, like, thing, big boom, done.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Disney cruise, Disney cruise, have so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Have so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's our show!
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, we got the bottom register, that sounds a bad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you all so much for listening, and thank you to Drew Freaking Taylor for coming on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can catch all of Drew's earth-shattering stories.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Truly, they're so good at the rap, where he is a senior writer, and he's doing like straight up watergate level journalism about movies and Hollywood, and of course, theme parks, this dude's reporting on theme parks, is exceptional.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Drew also wears a hundred hats like you're not even gonna believe me when I tell you all the things he does How does he have this many hours in a day?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have so many things I want to plug out his behalf But he is an animation expert to the point where he like low-key rights books for studios So many of them He wrote a book about the art of onward.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, muddooch fancy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And of course, Drew Taylor is the co-host of like the few's the official mission impossible podcast, which I have talked about, a borderline illegal amount of times on my own podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Drew, as if you, let's pay attention to anything I've done.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know Drew is my Tom Cruise adjacent friend.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I gleefully have clung to him throughout each of those mission impossible mission, the mission impossible movie cycles.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and Drew even made Tom Cruise laugh once, which is something I brag about, even though it did not happen to me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you should, true's the best.
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[SPEAKER_04]: True's the best.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you understand the Drew?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's so good at reporting that he started his own mission impossible podcasts and then it became the official mission impossible podcast that doesn't
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[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't have it!
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, honey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very late at night, so I'm being very quiet and not to wake dad, but cool summer for the kids was so much fun, and the goofy dance party was the best I loved it so much year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Little nugget loves to dance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When Blueie and Bingo came out, they were gigantic, they were bigger than we can imagine, and the kids loved them, they chased them around the dance floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pearl dance, the entire night away, I mean, pretty entire party she danced, she didn't sit down for a second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she has moved, they yelled at different songs to dance to, and then they yelled at this girl, and Pearl took her little sister, and Roll took her to the circle, and took up on the dance floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've died.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a great party.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved it so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw Nicky and Franza took Pearl to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a live musical, and again, having the audience stand up and dance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was no seats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but you could sit on the ground or you can get up and dance and we dance and it was the best.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Later that night, when Pearl was trying to get to sleep, she was sitting in her bed singing, girl, girl, girl, which was one of the catchy song that Mickey and friend sang, and she was singing in her bed, she would not sleep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just hearing about the port early into ever-sighted hotel,
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[SPEAKER_02]: this recipe of the bags the next day when we had a change of room is you can think the anxiety I can't even listen to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, I agree with all your great ideas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love for the hotel to ask an advance when you what you need for your stay and actually execute it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a wonderful trip all in all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a great episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So happy your voice is getting better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love you, Carly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love you Pearl, and of course you're back in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love you Jen Stamels.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.