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- 0:00Today's tech news moves fast, but understanding
- 0:03it shouldn't be hard. That's why Snarfle Solutions
- 0:06Group brings you Connecting the Dots, where we
- 0:09break down what's happening in tech and why it
- 0:11matters to you. Now, let's dive in with your
- 0:14hosts. Welcome to Connecting the Dots, a special
- 0:18deep dive from us here at Snarfle Solutions Group.
- 0:21Yes, welcome. Today we're focusing on a situation...
- 0:25that has a lot of people asking questions, important
- 0:28questions, especially about something as personal
- 0:31as their own genetic information. The bankruptcy
- 0:33of 23andMe. Yeah, this is a unique set of circumstances
- 0:37here, where we have a company that was built
- 0:40on the intimate details of millions of people's
- 0:43DNA, and now it is facing financial collapse.
- 0:46And this immediately brings up those concerns
- 0:49for you, the listener, about what happens to
- 0:51all of that data. Your data. Exactly. I mean,
- 0:55you might have taken a 23andMe test years ago.
- 0:57Right. You know, you were curious about your
- 0:59ancestry, maybe health predispositions. Right.
- 1:02Maybe you found long -lost relatives through
- 1:04the service, like Jessica Lippincott in Wyoming,
- 1:07who discovered 49 half -siblings. 49, you're
- 1:10the service. Or perhaps you gained some valuable
- 1:14insights into your own health risks, as Hannah
- 1:17Snitko did. But now with this bankruptcy, the
- 1:19landscape has shifted dramatically. Absolutely,
- 1:22yeah. And our mission today is to unpack what
- 1:25this bankruptcy means for you, particularly regarding
- 1:28your personal data, your privacy, and the fundamental
- 1:31trust you placed in 23Anna. We've gathered information
- 1:35from news reports, expert analysis, and even
- 1:38the perspectives of individuals directly affected
- 1:41to give you a comprehensive picture. That's right.
- 1:43So let's start with how 23andMe got here. I mean,
- 1:47it wasn't always doom and gloom. Right. They
- 1:50were pioneers in this field. Indeed they were.
- 1:5323andMe was founded on that very innovative idea
- 1:57of direct to consumer genetic testing. They quickly
- 2:01attracted a huge customer base. Huge, yeah. We're
- 2:04talking around 15 million customers. Wow. Each
- 2:06paying about $100 for that service. OK. And by
- 2:102021, the company reached a peat valuation of
- 2:13$6 billion. So they saw a significant rise in
- 2:18a really relatively short period of time. So
- 2:20what went wrong? I mean, if so many people were
- 2:22buying these tests, why the financial trouble?
- 2:24Well, you know, the core challenge appears to
- 2:26have been generating that sustainable revenue
- 2:28beyond that initial test purchase. I see. As
- 2:32noted in the Cowboy State Daily, people generally
- 2:35only needed the one test. Yeah. Right. So, you
- 2:40know, think about it. Once you've kind of explored
- 2:42your ancestry and those initial health predispositions,
- 2:46there's often not a recurring need. Yeah. For
- 2:49that same service. And so... their attempts to
- 2:53then leverage that massive genetic database through
- 2:56partnerships with, you know, big pharmaceutical
- 2:58companies like GSK, for example, for research
- 3:00purposes. That didn't bring in those consistent
- 3:03financial returns that they were likely hoping
- 3:05for. They also, you know, made ventures into
- 3:07selling health services and even exploring GLP
- 3:11-1 medications, but these efforts didn't manage
- 3:14to really turn the tide. So it really raises
- 3:17an interesting question for other data -driven
- 3:19businesses. How do you move beyond that initial
- 3:22data collection to create lasting value for both
- 3:25the company and the consumer? Yeah. And here's
- 3:27where it gets really interesting for you, the
- 3:29listener. OK. Beyond just the business model,
- 3:32a major event happened that significantly impacted
- 3:35trust and likely played a played a big role in
- 3:39their downfall. The twenty twenty three cyber
- 3:42security breach. Yes. This is a critical point
- 3:45to really consider because that breach. It compromised
- 3:49the sensitive data of approximately seven million
- 3:52individuals. Seven million? Wow. Yeah. And this
- 3:56event, as reported, it really damaged public
- 3:59trust and consumer confidence. And it makes sense,
- 4:02right? When a company holds such personal and
- 4:04really irreplaceable information, such as your
- 4:06genetic code, a breach of that magnitude, it
- 4:09really has profound consequences for that relationship
- 4:12with its users. And it's not a closed chapter,
- 4:14unfortunately. All right. As of March 2025, 23
- 4:17NME still faces 35 ,000 outstanding claims related
- 4:20to this breach. Wow. So this erosion of trust,
- 4:24I imagine, likely made their attempts to raise
- 4:26further capital or secure profitable partnerships
- 4:28even more difficult, contributing to the eventual
- 4:30financial crisis. Yeah, I think that's a very,
- 4:34very fair assessment. It certainly couldn't have
- 4:36helped. OK. And then, you know, adding to this
- 4:38instability where... Founder Anwar Chikki's repeated
- 4:42unsuccessful attempts to take the company private,
- 4:46which Tech News Weekly really highlighted as
- 4:49a sign of some internal challenges there. And
- 4:52then fast forward to March 2025, the news broke.
- 4:5623 Annie's market valuation had plummeted to
- 4:59just $50 million, culminating in the Chapter
- 5:0311 bankruptcy filing on March 28. A dramatic
- 5:07fall from grace. Huge fall. from that $6 billion
- 5:10peak. So the bankruptcy announcement obviously
- 5:12triggered a wave of reactions. I mean, we saw
- 5:16two very different responses highlighted in Y
- 5:20-meaning, which really illustrates the spectrum
- 5:22of feelings out there. Precisely. Precisely.
- 5:25On one side, you had millions of customers, like
- 5:27Hannah Snitko and Cheyenne, who immediately tried
- 5:29to delete their accounts and their genetic data.
- 5:31They were deeply concerned about what might happen
- 5:35to their information under new ownership. As
- 5:38Hannah herself put it, you know, we just don't
- 5:40know what will happen with it. There have been
- 5:42no assurances yet of the security of our data
- 5:44and what will happen going forward. And I think
- 5:47that feeling of uncertainty and that desire to
- 5:50regain control over their personal information
- 5:52is a very, very understandable reaction for many
- 5:56of you listening. Yeah, and it wasn't easy for
- 5:59those trying to delete their data. No, not at
- 6:01all. The sheer volume of deletion requests caused
- 6:05significant website issues, making it difficult
- 6:08for for many people, including Hannah, to actually
- 6:11complete the process. Right. And even receive
- 6:13confirmation. She noted that the site was very
- 6:16slow due to increased traffic. And those confirmation
- 6:19emails, they never arrived. And this really,
- 6:22this practical difficulty in actually exercising
- 6:24the right to delete their data only amplified
- 6:27the anxiety and frustration for users. Yeah.
- 6:30But then you have the other perspective, like
- 6:32Jessica Lippincott from Thermopolis. Her experience
- 6:35with 23 and Mania was life changing. It led her
- 6:37to her buy. biological father and 49 half siblings.
- 6:42So her view on the bankruptcy is quite different.
- 6:45Yeah, absolutely. Jessica has actually chosen
- 6:48not to delete her data. Interesting. Her hope
- 6:51is that a future buyer of 23andMe will actually
- 6:55utilize the genetic information for what she
- 6:58sees as really valuable purposes. Things like
- 7:01medical research and even solving cold cases.
- 7:06So she's very clearly weighing the potential
- 7:09benefits. against those risks. And she believes
- 7:13that, you know, any new owner would still be
- 7:16bound by existing laws governing sensitive genetic
- 7:18data. As she put it, if my data can be used by
- 7:21a future company to help other people, I'm all
- 7:23for it. I'm not going to delete it. So, you know,
- 7:26her perspective really highlights that potential
- 7:28for societal good that some individuals see in
- 7:32the collection and use of this type of data.
- 7:35OK, so with 23andy now in bankruptcy. What's
- 7:39the actual process regarding this vast amount
- 7:42of personal genetic information? Yeah. Your information
- 7:45as the listener. Well, so the bankruptcy court
- 7:48in St. Louis has approved the process of seeking
- 7:51a buyer for 23andMe. Bids from potential buyers
- 7:55were actually due by May 7th. OK. And a hearing
- 7:59to really examine these potential sales is anticipated
- 8:02in June 2025. So this chapter 11 bankruptcy process
- 8:07is designed to allow a company to reorganize
- 8:10its finances while protected from those creditors.
- 8:14It includes exploring a potential sale of the
- 8:17company and its assets. And of course, that includes
- 8:19that massive database of genetic information.
- 8:21And this idea of a sale, I imagine, is what's
- 8:23causing a lot of the anxiety. Who might buy 23andMe?
- 8:27And what could they potentially do with all that
- 8:29data? Those are very valid concerns. Experts
- 8:32like Jeffrey Fowler from the Washington Post,
- 8:35speaking on Tech News Weekly, have emphasized
- 8:38that genetic data is uniquely sensitive. because
- 8:42it represents information you cannot change and
- 8:45could have unforeseen future implications. Wow.
- 8:48Including, you know, potential insurance discrimination
- 8:51or misuse. That's scary. Yeah, and the sheer
- 8:55volume of this data, as Suzanne Bernstein from
- 8:58the Electronic Privacy Information Center pointed
- 9:00out, makes this a very unique situation with
- 9:03potentially far -reaching consequences depending
- 9:05on, you know, who acquires it. Right. And for
- 9:08what purpose. So are there any safeguards in
- 9:11place for consumers like you during this process?
- 9:15Fortunately, yes. There are some legal frameworks
- 9:19in place that offer some level of protection.
- 9:21Things like California's Consumer Privacy Protection
- 9:24Act, the CCPA, and other state -geneted privacy
- 9:28laws. These give you the right to request the
- 9:30deletion of your data. OK, that's good. Also,
- 9:34an attorney with the US trustee program, which
- 9:36oversees bankruptcies, has asked the court to
- 9:41appoint an ombudsman specifically to oversee
- 9:44the sale and help protect consumer data. And
- 9:47the company's attorneys have also pointed out
- 9:49that US bankruptcy law itself requires a buyer
- 9:53to adhere to existing privacy policies. So these
- 9:56legal mechanisms do offer some level of protection.
- 10:00However, as Hannah's experience showed, the practical
- 10:03application of those rights isn't always seamless.
- 10:06Right, right. So it's good to know that there
- 10:08are some protections, but it's still a time of
- 10:10uncertainty. Even 23 anime themselves have stated
- 10:14that customer data privacy will be an important
- 10:16consideration in any sale. Right. But it really
- 10:19highlights that delicate balance between business
- 10:22interests and the rights and expectations of
- 10:25individuals, like you, who entrusted them with
- 10:27their genetic information. Absolutely. And it's
- 10:30something that we all need to be more aware of.
- 10:32Yeah. This whole situation really makes you think
- 10:35about the broader implications for you, for you,
- 10:38the listener, of sharing such personal information,
- 10:40right? Absolutely. Absolutely. 23MB's bankruptcy
- 10:43serves as a very critical reminder. for you about
- 10:47those long -term implications of sharing personal
- 10:50data, especially something as fundamental as
- 10:52your genetic code. As Suzanne Bernstein from
- 10:55the Electronic Privacy Information Center noted,
- 10:58the scale of highly sensitive data that 23andMe
- 11:02holds is really unique. And federal law offers
- 11:05limited specific protections for genetic information
- 11:08held by private companies outside of... of healthcare
- 11:12and employment context, like IP and GINA. On
- 11:16your prints, a law professor at the University
- 11:17of Iowa, she echoed this as well, noting that
- 11:21federal protections are quite limited beyond
- 11:24those specific areas. And that leaves a bit of
- 11:27a gap in how your genetic data is protected in
- 11:29those commercial settings. So what can someone
- 11:32like you, listening, who used 23 -amine or is
- 11:36considering genetic testing in the future, take
- 11:38away from all this, what are some pro - proactive
- 11:41steps that you can consider? Well, the key is
- 11:44to be informed and proactive. Really understand
- 11:48your rights regarding your data. Many experts
- 11:50recommend that Concern23NB customers should consider
- 11:53deleting their data, requesting the destruction
- 11:56of their saliva samples, and revoking any permissions
- 11:58for research use. And this is also advice that
- 12:03California's Attorney General, Rob Bonta, also
- 12:06gave. And for those considering genetic testing
- 12:09in the future, you know, this situation really
- 12:12underscores the importance of carefully reviewing
- 12:14a company's privacy policies, really understanding
- 12:17how your data will be used and considering those
- 12:20long -term implications before sharing such sensitive
- 12:23information. Yeah. And this situation highlights
- 12:26the ongoing need for stronger consumer privacy
- 12:28laws, especially as more and more companies collect
- 12:30and hold this type of sensitive information.
- 12:33You know, as Hannes Nitko put it, even though
- 12:35she initially enjoyed the service, she now feels
- 12:38a loss of control over her personal genetic data
- 12:40and would think twice about such services in
- 12:43the future. It really underscores the evolving
- 12:46relationship between individuals and the companies
- 12:50that hold their most private details and the
- 12:53need for regulations to really keep pace with
- 12:56these technological advancements. Absolutely.
- 12:58So this deep dive into 23 immediate bankruptcy
- 13:00shows just how complex the intersection of your
- 13:04personal data technology and business can be.
- 13:07And it underscores the importance for you, the
- 13:10listener, to understand not only the potential
- 13:12benefits of services like genetic testing, but
- 13:14also the potential risks and what happens when
- 13:16things take an unexpected turn. And the contrasting
- 13:20reactions of individuals like Jessica, who sees
- 13:24potential for... for good in her data being used.
- 13:29And Hannah, who prioritizes deleting her information
- 13:32due to those privacy concerns, really highlights
- 13:35the diverse perspectives and valid questions
- 13:38surrounding your ownership and control of your
- 13:41most personal information. There isn't really
- 13:44a one size fits all answer. Right. And your comfort
- 13:47level and priorities will really guide those
- 13:50decisions. Absolutely. So ultimately, the situation
- 13:54with 23andMean raises an important question for
- 13:56all of you listening. In an increasingly data
- 13:59-driven world, how do we balance the desire for
- 14:02knowledge and convenience with the need to protect
- 14:05our privacy and maintain control over our sensitive
- 14:08information? It's something to really consider
- 14:11as you navigate the ever -evolving technological
- 14:14landscape. It really is. And we are here to help
- 14:17here at SNARFL, so reach out on our website if
- 14:19you have any more questions. Great. Thanks for
- 14:22joining us today. Of course. And we'll see you
- 14:24next time. I'm on Connecting the Dots.