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E171: Unmasking America’s Food Crisis w/Dr Anthony Jay · The Lila Rose Show

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  They're interested in cholesterol because there's
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  drugs to sell. They're interested in high blood
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  pressure because there's drugs to sell.
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  It's not the individual doctors that are becoming less honest,
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  it's the training that they're getting is becoming more
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  pharmaceutical centric. What are the biggest subsidized
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  food products that are doing the most harm?
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  Hey, guys, welcome back to the Lila Rose show.
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  Did you know that obesity rates have tripled over the last few
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  decades in the United States and that about 1/2 of all Americans
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  are considered obese, nearly 75% are considered overweight, and
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  one in every six children roughly are considered obese.
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  Where has this obesity epidemic come from?
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  Why is it happening today? We're going to be sitting down
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  with researcher, scientist, geneticist and author Doctor
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  Anthony Jay. His work is really fascinating.
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  We have had him on the show before to talk about hormones
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  and so much more related to plummeting testosterone rates.
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  But today we're going to be focusing on food.
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  He's done some really fascinating research on food and
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  has a lot to say about the foods that we're consuming.
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  But you got off your grocery store shelves.
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  We're going to be in Part 1 of this episode talking about the
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  corruption in the food industry, talking very high level about
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  our government agencies and how food is regulated in the United
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  States and how that affects the everyday person.
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  And then in Part 2, we're going to be going down the grocery
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  aisle together, not literally, but virtually, and looking at
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  the ingredient list and some of the most popular products,
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  products that I've used in my home and products that you might
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  use in your home. I hope you enjoy this
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  investigative exploration with Doctor Anthony J into America's
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  food industry. Doctor J Thanks for coming to
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  the show. Thanks for having me.
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  Yeah, this is your second time on the show.
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  We did remote before I got to meet you here.
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  And I'm so excited because this is something increasingly I've
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  become interested in having kids and it's a journey for me.
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  And I think a lot of people listening.
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  So very excited to hear about your research and all your
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  expertise on this. Yeah, thanks.
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  And I think we're going to focus on RFKA little bit too.
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  And and I think he's actually read my book and my book is on
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  the topic of artificial estrogen chemicals.
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  And so I've done a lot of research and reading and
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  studying on this and and he cites a lot of basic data right
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  from my my book. So yeah, so it's it's a good tie
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  in. Yeah, he should link your book
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  in his videos. All right, so tell us about your
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  book and also your background. Yep.
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  So my book is called Astro Generation and it's about
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  artificial estrogen chemicals. So one of the problems with and
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  by the way, I'm a scientific research, I have a PhD from
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  Boston University Medical School, which is a different
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  campus than the regular campus. But you know, most people do
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  toxicology in science and what they do is they have cells
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  growing in a dish. And by the way, it's a plastic
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  dish, right? And they put chemicals on those
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  cells and just see if the cells die and and if they die, they
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  figure out the doses that kill the cells.
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  It's called toxicology. The problem with that putting
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  just chemicals on cells is it doesn't account for bio
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  accumulation, just the build up of chemicals in our bodies,
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  which is huge, right? It doesn't account for hormone
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  disruption. So even if a chemicals not
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  toxic, if it alters your hormones, that can cause a huge
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  health impact, especially over the long term and especially
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  even in the womb and developing children and all this sort of
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  thing. And so there's massive problems
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  with a lot of these chemicals, even if they're not acknowledged
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  in conventional toxicology research.
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  So that's kind of my focus looking at these chemicals.
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  But now I do genetic consulting also, which I started a genetic
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  consulting company in 2010. And so I literally probably talk
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  for five hours a day with different people pretty much
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  everyday about their genes, what are their weak spots.
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  We talk about heart disease, we talk about brain performance
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  anxiety, gut issues, you know, joint issues.
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  We talk about a lot of different things.
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  So I have a lot of diverse background.
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  What got you into toxicology and genetics, and what got you
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  interested in getting a PhD in in what again?
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  Biochemistry. PhD in biochemistry.
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  Yeah, well, I'm interested in a lot of things.
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  So biochemistry is a good way to kind of just learn about a
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  little bit of everything and then and the scientific
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  molecular level and, and kind of really get into it deep.
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  And my focus was on hormones initially because, you know, I'm
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  interested in testosterone and estrogen and progesterone.
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  Postmenopausal women are, you know, that whole process is
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  interesting. Low testosterone is a real
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  cultural problem. But what really got me going on
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  the artificial chemicals was when I had kids, because I
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  started worrying about the drinking water.
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  I started worrying about, you know, what's going on with my
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  kids. What am I going to feed my kids?
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  What are the supplements my kids need?
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  And so that's when I really got into it.
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  In fact, my daughter had diarrhea.
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  One of my daughter's a diarrhea for like a year.
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  And you go to these doctors and they would say, oh, it's, it's
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  OK. That's pretty normal.
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  Some kids just have a lot of diarrhea.
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  Things like kind of like what this doesn't that that's just
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  crazy. Like that doesn't make sense,
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  right? And so it kind of got, it just
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  made me recognize there's a lot of shenanigans going on in the
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  medical system. Did you get to the bottom of it?
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  Oh yeah. For her it was gluten real
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  specifically. And of course, I looked at my
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  own genetics and I have a bunch of gluten problems and I used to
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  have a lot of acid reflux. I used to have hemorrhoids.
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  I don't have any of that anymore.
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  I got rid of that. Is that because you got rid of
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  gluten? Mainly.
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  And for your daughter too, once she stopped the gluten when she
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  started right up. Wow.
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  Yeah. And it was a little bit beyond
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  that. It's grains in general for us,
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  you know, But but yeah, I mean, if I cheat and have gluten two
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  days in a row, I get acid reflux at like 3 AMI wake up, I feel it
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  bubbling up in my throat. I don't cheat anymore, but it's
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  that it's that dramatic. And keep in mind, too, with age,
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  as we get older, age amplifies are genetic risks, right?
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  So some people don't have genetic risks for gluten.
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  They don't have genetic risks for dairy.
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  Some people do, but as you get older it gets worse.
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  So a lot of people are like, well, in my 20s, I could do
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  whatever. I could get a hangover and
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  recover the next day. I can, you know, drink milk and
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  have a little bit of GI problems, but not too much.
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  And then as. They get older.
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  Yeah, well, as they get older, all of a sudden it's a lot
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  worse, right. And then even like whey protein
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  or something that's a lot more innocuous.
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  That's. Bodybuilders love their weight.
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  That's. Problematic, yeah, but it
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  depends on people's genetics there too.
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  So, you know, it just, you know, seeing that in in real life and
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  seeing how the doctors kind of blew it off.
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  I mean, the basic focus in medicine is if there's a
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  prescription drug, we're going to be obsessed with it.
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  We're going to focus on it. Like the cholesterol topic we
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  talked a little bit about last time.
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  They're interested in cholesterol because there's
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  drugs to sell. They're interested in high blood
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  pressure because there's drugs to sell.
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  They're like if you have hemochromatosis, like really
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  high, like what is genetic? Yeah, genetic disposition for
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  high iron, too much iron in your blood, they don't really care
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  that much. The normal range for ferritin,
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  which is the fancy way of saying iron in your blood, the normal
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  range is like 30 to 300. You can Google it. 30 to 300,
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  that's a 10 fold range. That's absurd to say that's the
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  normal. Basically, they're not.
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  They're not interested in your ferritin unless you're dying of
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  low iron or extremely high iron. Why?
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  Because there's no drugs, right? But.
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  Why should they be interested in one's ferritin?
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  Because ferritin is oxidative, it's very reactive with oxygen.
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  So if you have too much iron in your blood, blood, it starts
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  damaging your arteries and then you get heart disease and then
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  we have heart disease. What are they going to blame
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  your cholesterol every single time, Right?
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  And meanwhile, you're lowering your cholesterol with a bunch of
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  drugs and that have a lot of side effects.
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  And then they're totally ignoring your ferritin.
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  You can, again, you can, people can Fact Check this.
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  In the 1980's, the normal range for cholesterol on a blood test
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  used to be 100 to 300 and now it's 100 to 200, right?
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  And the in 1987 when they invented the first statin, the
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  drug that lowers cholesterol, that's when they dropped it.
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  It's total corruption. It wasn't because they did a
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  bunch of studies and found like, we really need to lower this
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  normal range. It was because they invented a
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  drug. So they wanted to flag
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  everybody's cholesterol and tell most people that they have high
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  cholesterol. And again, age amplifies this.
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  So as you get a little bit older, your cholesterol goes up
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  a little bit. So again, it's just a drug
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  centric focus in when you go to these doctors, right, that
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  they're trained as pharmaceutical sales reps,
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  medical doctors are trained as pharmaceutical sales reps.
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  Basically when you go in there, they're pitching a prescription
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  drug. They're not really thinking
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  about how you know what you're eating.
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  When's the last time your doctor asked you what you're eating,
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  right? And unfortunately, even if you,
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  even if a doctor did ask about what you're eating, they're
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  trained to think the vegan diet is the way to go because the
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  why? Because the vegan diet lowers
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  your cholesterol, right? So the even the foundation of
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  what they're taught about the the food pyramid and all this
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  nonsense is based on, you know, corruption and big food
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  companies and processed food and, you know, just a lot of
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  corruption, honestly, so. So I, I think about like just
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  contextualizing this before we dive into detail, more details.
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  And it's all extremely fascinating.
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  So, you know, back in the day, and some of people listening may
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  have seen these ads. You know, the tobacco companies,
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  as an example, would have these ads where they would say, like,
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  here's one right here. According to a nationwide
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  survey, more doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette.
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  And it says doctors and every branch of medicine were queried
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  in the nationwide study of cigarette preference.
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  The leading research organizations made the survey.
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  The gist of the query was what cigarette do you smoke?
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  Doctor? And then it goes on about how
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  the doctor, you know, how this, you know, these basically
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  tobacco's good for you is this idea.
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  And they got doctors to say tobacco was and smoking was
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  actually good for you. And this was, you know, 100 or
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  so years ago. And now obviously it's
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  completely the opposite. And I think there's verifiable
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  research that it is the opposite, that smoking,
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  especially in for some people, and especially in, in any kind
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  of large amount can be very damaging to the human body.
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  So, but I bring that up because this is the same medical
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  profession, and this was the medical profession of 100 years
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  ago. I think there's this assumption
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  today that doctors can be trusted.
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  And increasingly, as more and more information gets out to the
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  general public, people are skeptical of what their doctors
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  tell them. I'm curious before diving in and
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  what the medical experts tell them.
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  So all that to say, do you see this larger trend happening
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  where the medical profession is becoming less honest?
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  Have they always been, you know, just how to dishonesty issues?
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  Because that exists in every industry?
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  that's not the doctor's faults, It's not the individual doctors
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  that are becoming less honest. It's the training that they're
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  getting is becoming more pharmaceutical centric and more
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  influenced by money behind the scenes.
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  I mean, that's why Pfizer is sending money to medical
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  schools, like massive amounts, millions and millions of dollars
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  to have them rewrite their curriculums and things like
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  this. And that's why universities, you
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  know, when they do research, it used to be independent research.
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  Right now the drug companies are coming in and giving them money
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  on top of NIH money on top of government money to do research.
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  And what's the research going to focus on?
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  It's going to focus on drugs. Have you heard of Marsha Angel?
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  Do you know Marsha Angel? Tell me.
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  She was the chief editor for the New England Journal of Medicine
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  for 20 plus years. She's the first woman editor for
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  the New England Journal of Medicine, by the way, New
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  England Journal of Medicine, the most prestigious medical journal
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  in the world. She resigned because it's so
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  corrupt. It's becoming so corrupted and
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  people. Talking about people are paying
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  for placements like drug companies are paying for
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  basically misleading studies to prove that things are safe that
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  aren't safe. Every layer is corrupted.
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  Yeah, there's that. There's peer reviewing.
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  You know, when you peer review a research study, You've heard of
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  peer reviewed studies and everybody thinks they're the
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  gold standard. I've published a lot of peer
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  reviewed studies. You picked your peer reviewers.
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  Did you know that? You can pick any you have to any
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  you have to have. Credentials with credentials.
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  So if you have friends that have PhDs or MD's and you want to
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  tell people that soy is super good for you or something, you
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  pick your buddies. And, and again, this isn't an
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  optional thing, When you submit a peer reviewed publication, you
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  have to tell them who is going to peer review your paper.
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  You pick. Why have people accepted this?
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  Generally speaking that peer reviewed studies are the gold
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  standard when anybody can be chosen.
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  I think it's just the corruption has crept into it.
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  So in the in the journals are kind of lazy.
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  Like it's easier for them to say, OK, you tell us who should
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  peer review your paper and we'll do that, right?
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  But that's just one little tiny aspect of it because there's a
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  lot of ways to manipulate studies when they do vaccine
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  studies, for example. And by the way, when
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  pharmaceutical studies come out, they don't have to reveal those
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  to the public, especially on the topic of vaccines.
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  Remember, vaccines have that special court, like the vaccine
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  courts of people getting injured.
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  They have a whole separate situation in general scientific
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  studies, like when they come out with these numbers, you just
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  have to you can, I can't, you know, I can access a lot of
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  research studies, but I can't see the data from these drug
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  companies. They release the data and so
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  they get to pick what data they want to put out and say, here's
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  what we did for a research study and here's the data.
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  And I can't come in and say like, well, are they cherry
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  picking it? Are they throwing out some
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  numbers? What are they doing?
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  So it's hard to analyze it, right?
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  And that's not even peer reviewed.
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  That's just the way the system is set up for the pharma
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  company. So a lot of this stuff just
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  favors the pharma companies. And RFK talks about that a lot
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  because he talks about how 75% of the FDA's budget is from
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  pharma. What do you mean what?
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  Break that down? What do you mean 75% of the
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  FDA's budget is from Big Pharma? So they literally have to pay to
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  submit drug application. So if you develop a new drug,
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  they give the FDA a ton of money to investigate whether that drug
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  is safe. And the, the FDA just looks at
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  the data that the pharmaceutical companies give them, right?
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  So a lot of times there's a huge recall rate for these drugs
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  because they're approving drugs that shouldn't be approved.
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  I mean, an example, right? Especially a pro-life example is
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  diethyl Stolbastryl, if you've heard of DES and DES babies.
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  So people would Google Des DES, right?
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  Those 3 letters, DES babies from 1930 to about 1970, diethyl
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  stelbestrel was approved for morning sickness and it's a
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  hormone disruptor. And in fact, BPA came from DES.
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  They invented BPA as a birth control because you can also use
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  DES as a birth control. So it's a hormone disruptor, and
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  this is one of the problems with BPA plastics, right?
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  It's not really toxic, but it definitely disrupts your
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  hormones. It acts like birth control and
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  diethyl silbestrol deaths was literally prescribed for, you
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  know, years and years and years by professional doctors, even
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  though it was causing birth defects and causing all kinds of
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  hormone disruption issues. And then they finally recalled
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  it in like 1971 or something. After how many years?
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  50. Years. 50 years, basically.
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  And and they were proven birth defects caused because of this
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  drug. Yeah, but it took a long time to
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  see those. But yeah.
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  Yeah, I know people, right? Because I write about this in my
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  book and people have emailed me and they've met me at health
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  conferences with deformities and they say, you know, I'm a dust
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  baby. I'm so glad you wrote about
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  this. Nobody talks about this because
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  people talk about thalidomide and some of these other drugs
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  that had major problems. And most people don't talk about
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  dust. But there's the problem is even
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  even those extreme examples, they're a little bit swept under
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  the rug like dust. Nobody's heard of it.
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  Nobody talks about it because it tarnishes the reputation of drug
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  companies and the media companies sure as hell not.
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  They're not going to talk about it because they're getting paid
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  off by the pharma companies with all the ads, right?
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  All these crazy billion dollars worth of ads on the Super Bowls
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  and everything else. Those are going to these media
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  companies. And the media companies are
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  saying, well, we better not say anything bad about the drug
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  companies because we're getting all this funding from the
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  advertising. So the media companies are
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  basically propagandists for the drug companies and they that's
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  how they can continue to exist. And then the drug companies
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  don't have any real, I mean, the regulation, what you're sounds
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  like you're saying is that the regulation of drug companies is
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  completely it's a farce. Yeah, yeah.
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  I mean, drug companies don't usually don't do anything super
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  crazy and extreme. If it's something a super toxic,
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  they're not going to release it because and and by the way, when
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  they do, they make these shell companies, they make these
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  smaller little companies that nobody's ever heard of and then
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  they release drugs under those companies so it doesn't tarnish
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  the Johnson and Johnson name or the Pfizer name or whatever.
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  So it'll be under some name that nobody's ever heard of.
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  And they say, oh, this drug company went under because they
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  made a terrible drug, right? So they do that a lot too.
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  And I don't know any specific examples off the top of my head,
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  but I know for sure they exist. And there's a lot of examples
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  like that. And that's just how they
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  operate. So there's a lot of corruption
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  on a lot of different levels. I mean, they're not advertising
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  on TV because they think you're going to buy more drugs.
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  When they list all those ridiculous side effects on all
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  those radio ads and all those TV ads, they know they're not
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  really selling the drug, you know, because you have to go to
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  get a prescription for those drugs anyways.
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  You have to go to your doctor. They're literally just buying
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  off the media companies because these media companies, the, the
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  conventional media that people used to watch on TV, you know,
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  the CNN type media, nobody's watching those anymore.
• 18:48
  Like hardly hardly anybody's watching those.
• 18:50
  So the numbers are declining. So pathetic the pathetically
• 18:54
  that they have to just take all this money from these pharma
• 18:58
  companies. So again, it's kind of a a way
• 18:59
  that they buy it off. And they buy off them.
• 19:01
  That's crazy. So you're saying you think the
• 19:03
  the a lot of the ads on TV networks and kind of traditional
• 19:07
  media is basically insurance against having those bigger
• 19:11
  entities investigate what they're really doing?
• 19:13
  Yeah. Yeah, that's a good question.
• 19:15
  How many investigative reports have there been on major drug
• 19:17
  companies in the last decade? Nothing.
• 19:19
  Nothing by major media companies.
• 19:21
  Yeah. And again, this all circles back
• 19:24
  to Marsha Angel, right? The chief editor of the New
• 19:26
  England Journal. She's even written a book on
• 19:29
  pharma corruption and how much corruption there is.
• 19:32
  And it's frustrating, right? Because as an insider, I've
• 19:34
  written peer reviewed papers. I've done a lot of research, and
• 19:37
  there's honest research out there.
• 19:40
  But there's also about 75% that's dishonest and you can
• 19:44
  Google that. There's actual CEOs of companies
• 19:47
  that say they'd only trust 25% of research studies.
• 19:50
  They only trust 25% of peer reviewed studies.
• 19:53
  Which ones? How do you know which to trust?
• 19:55
  You don't, you don't know for sure.
• 19:59
  And a lot of the time my my radar is basically if, if a
• 20:04
  company is researching a drug or something that they're selling,
• 20:08
  I'm super skeptical. I'm just starting off from a
• 20:10
  place of skepticism. If it's a study on infrared
• 20:15
  light or something, that really is not making anybody money.
• 20:17
  The patents, right? The patents are where people
• 20:19
  make the money. So like, if I develop a new drug
• 20:23
  that's never found in nature, you patent it, right?
• 20:29
  And this is so this is how they make most of their money because
• 20:33
  they corner the market. And then they convince everybody
• 20:35
  these drugs are super good for them.
• 20:36
  And they have to get that specific drug and nobody else
• 20:39
  can make it because they own the property, intellectual property
• 20:41
  on that drug, right? And they do this with vitamins
• 20:45
  too, by the way. So there's a lot of corruption
• 20:46
  in the vitamin industry too. Like, have you heard of
• 20:49
  cyanocobalamin, for example? So it's cyanide, right?
• 20:52
  It's it's B12. It's vitamin B12, but it's made
• 20:55
  with cyanide. That's Cyano.
• 20:57
  That's the chemistry for cyanocobalamin.
• 21:00
  And and then the the scientists and the doctors that are kind of
• 21:04
  influenced by the money and the corruption behind the scenes,
• 21:06
  they'll say, oh, it's OK, it's OK, Lila.
• 21:08
  It's just a little bit of cyanide.
• 21:09
  It's like, yeah, but I don't want a little bit of cyanide.
• 21:11
  I don't want zero poison. In vitamins you're saying it's
• 21:15
  in some? It's just in the synthetic ones.
• 21:17
  Yeah, if you Google the term B12 synthetic, even the AI on Google
• 21:22
  try it right now. Try it B12.
• 21:23
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  Regular Google, right? Yeah, regular Google.
• 22:35
  It's a cyanide. How do you say cyanide, Volumen?
• 22:39
  Cyano Cobalin. Cyano Cobalin is a synthetic
• 22:41
  form of vitamin B12 that is commonly used in supplements and
• 22:44
  fortified foods. It is the most common and cost
• 22:47
  effective form of B12. It's cheaper.
• 22:50
  It doesn't say anything about it being bad here.
• 22:52
  Yeah, exactly. And if you.
• 22:53
  Like let's say what helpline has to say sure or web MD, OK, this
• 22:57
  is helpline. It says vitamin B12, also known
• 23:00
  as cobalamin. Cobalamin.
• 23:02
  Cobalamin. Cobalamin is an important water
• 23:04
  soluble vitamin da da da A deficiency in this key vitamin
• 23:07
  can lead to serious symptoms. Therefore, many people turn to
• 23:10
  vitamin B12 supplements to help their needs.
• 23:12
  This article examines the differences between synthetic
• 23:15
  and natural. Yeah, it's definitely synthetic.
• 23:19
  And again, the reason this is. But it's not saying.
• 23:22
  Cyanide. It's not.
• 23:24
  There's nothing. Let me Google the word cyanide
• 23:26
  or search the word cyanide in this article.
• 23:27
  So are there? Is there evidence to show that
• 23:30
  ingesting a small amount of cyanide, taking the synthetic
• 23:33
  B12 vitamin can be damaging to 1's health?
• 23:36
  No, but I don't want to do it. I mean, apple seeds have a
• 23:39
  little bit of cyanide. I'm not eating apple seeds.
• 23:41
  Plants don't want you to eat the apple seeds, right?
• 23:43
  They want you to do the apple and spread the seeds around.
• 23:46
  Have there been studies done on done on the risks of a little
• 23:48
  bit of cyanide along with your B12 synthetic vitamin?
• 23:52
  Maybe, but they might be corrupt, right?
• 23:53
  So this is the kind of place where I start with, as I start
• 23:56
  by saying, OK, it's poison. We don't need to have that
• 24:00
  synthetic version of B12. We can have methyl cobalamin.
• 24:02
  That's the good stuff. That's the natural stuff, right?
• 24:04
  If you search methyl cobalamin, it's going to say that's the
• 24:07
  form of B12 found in nature, right?
• 24:09
  And by the way, the reason this is becoming more and more
• 24:12
  important is because more and more people are going vegan and
• 24:14
  plants don't have B12. It's only found in animal
• 24:16
  products. So generally, if you just eat
• 24:17
  animal products like meat and things, you're totally fine.
• 24:20
  And that's what I recommend. But that's just one tiny
• 24:23
  example, right? Like you've heard of folic acid
• 24:25
  and I'm sure when you were pregnant they told you to take
• 24:27
  folic acid, right? To be honest, they told me a
• 24:29
  lot. They told me a lot of things
• 24:31
  when I was pregnant. They always do and always have,
• 24:33
  including you have to ingest because you might have diabetes,
• 24:37
  which I've never had in gestational diabetes.
• 24:40
  And they make you ingest this incredibly disgusting drink,
• 24:44
  which I always end up doing it at the last hour because of the
• 24:46
  threats that my baby could be harmed.
• 24:49
  And I value my baby's life more than my discomfort, obviously.
• 24:52
  But I just, I, I, I probably should do a whole episode
• 24:56
  investigating whether or not this is actually a good thing
• 24:58
  for women to be doing. I don't know your take on that.
• 25:01
  Most people have way too much blood sugar.
• 25:03
  Like most people eat too many carbs and they have too much
• 25:05
  blood sugar just chronically. So that's why it's a problem.
• 25:08
  If if you're not eating a ton of carbs all the time constantly
• 25:11
  and you you don't have chronically high blood sugar,
• 25:13
  it's not really a big risk. It depends on your genes for
• 25:16
  sure, but I'm not that worried about it.
• 25:18
  But again, it's case by case, right?
• 25:19
  Because most Americans are obese now and they are eating way too
• 25:23
  many carbs. But folic acid, right?
• 25:26
  You remember folic acid, that's literally almost the only
• 25:29
  vitamin that doctors tell you to take, right?
• 25:33
  Like most doctors, I mean, most women would vouch for this if if
• 25:36
  if you ask them, OK, you're pregnant.
• 25:38
  What vitamin did the doctor tell you to take?
• 25:41
  He's going to say folic acid. Folic acid is fake.
• 25:44
  Add to go back to that Google and put in folic acid synthetic,
• 25:48
  right? And let's see what Google says
• 25:49
  there all. Right folic acid.
• 25:52
  In in the 90s it was patented. So we know it's fake.
• 25:55
  It's not found in nature because it's patented, right?
• 25:57
  It says yes. Folic acid is a synthetic form
• 25:59
  of the B vitamin folate. Yeah, So and folate is a broad
• 26:03
  term. It's kind of like saying
• 26:04
  automobile, you know, cars and trucks and vans are all
• 26:07
  automobile. So folic acid is technically in
• 26:09
  the folate category. It's, it's like automobile, but
• 26:12
  the natural stuff is called methylfolate, right?
• 26:15
  And you get that from like eating leafy greens and berries
• 26:17
  and things like that. So you don't need to take a
• 26:20
  whole bunch of extra vitamins if you're eating healthy, which is
• 26:23
  always the best way to get your vitamins.
• 26:25
  That's how our bodies are best suited and adapted.
• 26:28
  But, but folic acid, why did they push it so much?
• 26:32
  Because they used to make a ton of money on it.
• 26:33
  In 1998, they made the government. the US government
• 26:36
  mandated that companies put folic acid in enriched grain
• 26:40
  products. Why?
• 26:41
  Because there's all this push, because they're making a bunch
• 26:43
  of money from that vitamin, that synthetic.
• 26:46
  Enriched bleached white flour. They had the folic acid.
• 26:49
  Yep, and they have to do that. And the and they have.
• 26:51
  Why do you say they have to do that?
• 26:52
  Because. It's a law in America.
• 26:54
  Why is that the law in America Because of.
• 26:56
  Corruption because they made a bunch of money on folic acid, so
• 26:58
  they convinced the government to make a law that you have to put
• 27:01
  it in there. What's the potential benefit to
• 27:03
  the to the to the consumer? Because if you're taking out all
• 27:06
  the vitamins out of these processed foods, you have to put
• 27:09
  some back in. My philosophy is don't eat the
• 27:12
  processed foods because #1 they're going to have a bunch of
• 27:16
  preservatives and nonsense. The vitamins they're putting
• 27:19
  back in are usually the cheap ones or the patented ones that
• 27:22
  they're making a bunch of money on.
• 27:24
  And again, it's usually just super carb heavy foods that are
• 27:27
  just super addictive, right? Sugar acts on the cocaine center
• 27:31
  of our brains, right? It's even more addictive than
• 27:35
  cocaine in the long term. In animal studies, if you give
• 27:38
  cocaine, the short term, animals get addicted quicker than sugar,
• 27:41
  but sugar is more addictive than cocaine in the long term.
• 27:45
  So that's why food companies put sugar and gluten and casein,
• 27:49
  right? They put dairy and gluten and
• 27:50
  sugar in pretty much everything because, and the reason I, I
• 27:53
  threw in gluten and casein in their milk protein is because
• 27:57
  gluten when it's, when it's digested, it gets converted to
• 28:01
  gluteomorphine, which is morphine, right?
• 28:06
  Which is an opiate, meaning it binds the opioid receptors in
• 28:08
  your brain, meaning it's addictive.
• 28:10
  Why do they put casein and dairy proteins?
• 28:13
  I mean, if you look on all these energy bars and all these
• 28:15
  processed foods like Doritos and whatever else you're going to
• 28:19
  find, it says something about milk proteins.
• 28:21
  It's going to usually have gluten or natural flavors,
• 28:25
  right? Those are natural.
• 28:26
  They're found in nature. So they're allowed to sneak them
• 28:28
  into foods and not even put them on the label.
• 28:29
  Which again, hopefully RFK will clean a lot of the stuff up
• 28:32
  because this is the type of thing that I have a problem with
• 28:35
  and he has a problem with. And we're on the same page here,
• 28:37
  but case morphine, right? Go go to Google and say
• 28:40
  caseomorphine. It's CA S0M 0RP HIN
• 28:45
  caseomorphine. It's going to say when milk is
• 28:48
  digested. And by the way, 80% of.
• 28:50
  Them are opioid peptides that are created when the milk
• 28:53
  protein casein is built, broken down during digestion.
• 28:57
  They're usually made-up of eight to three to 8 amino.
• 28:59
  Acids and Scroll down the page a little bit.
• 29:00
  Do you see a a science direct article?
• 29:03
  Caseomorphine is a more potent opioid than morphine itself,
• 29:08
  right? Meaning it's somewhere between
• 29:11
  morphine and heroin in terms of addiction.
• 29:13
  It's not as strong as heroin, but it's more potent than
• 29:16
  morphine. Morphine's addictive.
• 29:18
  People don't want to mess with morphine, right?
• 29:20
  So we're talking about food addictions here, and we're
• 29:22
  talking about companies that want you addicted to foods and
• 29:24
  hyper processed foods. And of course they start you
• 29:27
  young, right, with the sugars, the caseins, the glutamorphines,
• 29:30
  the gluten. So it's not just an intellectual
• 29:35
  decision people have to make. It's an actual addiction that
• 29:38
  people have to fight. And so, and again, these
• 29:42
  companies know this and then it makes people sicker and then the
• 29:44
  pharma companies jump in and give you a bunch of drugs,
• 29:47
  right? So it sounds like there, OK,
• 29:49
  there's so much to unpack here. And I know we're going to get
• 29:51
  into some particular products that people should avoid and
• 29:54
  kinds of food that people should avoid and why.
• 29:56
  But just at the macro level, what you're describing, it
• 30:00
  sounds like there's, like you said, multiple levels of
• 30:02
  corruption. And we're not just dealing with
• 30:03
  like 1 drug company, 18 government agency.
• 30:06
  The problem is it's multiple government agencies.
• 30:08
  We're talking about the FDA. We're also talking about NIH and
• 30:11
  the way studies are even done and the research is done.
• 30:14
  And then we're talking about multiple different, not just
• 30:17
  drug companies, but we're also talking about food companies.
• 30:20
  And it's not like there is necessarily one big conspiracy.
• 30:23
  They're all working together to make people sick.
• 30:25
  No, it's that there's this this convergence of government
• 30:28
  incentives, people that are making money off of certain
• 30:32
  things that are less than have less integrity and some people
• 30:36
  just not caring enough to set other people right.
• 30:38
  And a system that has because of the incentives, it's working
• 30:42
  ultimately against the average Joe and at large.
• 30:47
  That's why America is getting so sick, is that.
• 30:50
  Would you say that's a fairway to look at the the moment we're
• 30:55
  in right now? Yep, Yep.
• 30:56
  And people know this. I mean, you can compare your
• 30:59
  life 20 years ago to compare it to now and just look around,
• 31:02
  right, In terms of the obesity and the sickness that everybody
• 31:06
  has and all the allergies and the autoimmune issues.
• 31:08
  I mean, people's dogs are getting allergies now.
• 31:11
  You know, like people's cats, Like when I lived in Boston,
• 31:13
  people's cats are getting allergies.
• 31:15
  It's ridiculous. I used to have cats all the time
• 31:17
  when I was growing up. They never got allergies.
• 31:19
  Are you crazy? I mean, they would sit there on
• 31:21
  the pollen under the trees. They'd be covered with pollen.
• 31:23
  You'd blow the pollen off of them.
• 31:24
  They didn't have allergies. Now they're sneezing and
• 31:26
  coughing. Seed oils are a big problem,
• 31:28
  right? They're putting seed oils into
• 31:29
  the cat food now, like as if cats are supposed to be eating
• 31:32
  soybean oil. Let's, let's do this to kind of
• 31:35
  zoom out from the 100,000 foot view and zoom in what are the
• 31:39
  biggest subsidized, whether they're pharmaceutical products
• 31:44
  or food products that have are connected to the biggest
• 31:47
  government subsidies that are doing the most harm.
• 31:50
  Most of its carbs, carb related, it's soy and corn and wheat.
• 31:55
  I would say those 3. And that's not to say you can
• 31:58
  ever have corn, soy and wheat depending on your genes, but
• 32:02
  those are the ones that gets promoted as the most healthy and
• 32:05
  they're generally the least healthy and they have the most
• 32:07
  pesticides and herbicides and nonsense and GMO, right and all
• 32:12
  that. So those are probably the big
• 32:14
  three. So you didn't mention sugar corn
• 32:17
  syrup? Probably should have, yeah, but
• 32:19
  corn syrup is corn. And corn syrup is corn, that's
• 32:21
  true. Is sugar.
• 32:23
  Sugar for sure. I would add on that.
• 32:24
  List is sugar subsidized in the United States?
• 32:26
  Oh sure. Yeah, it's crazy.
• 32:28
  Is there a competition then between the corn syrup people
• 32:31
  and the sugar people in terms of getting government subsidies and
• 32:33
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• 32:36
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  Challenge with Hallow. Maybe, but I think the subsidies
• 33:11
  go for the growing the corn, not so much for processing the corn.
• 33:15
  So what they've done with all this wasted mountains of corn as
• 33:19
  they just feed it to the cows, which makes the cows sick.
• 33:21
  I mean, cows aren't really made to eat grains, they're made to
• 33:23
  eat grass, right? Grass is the leaf, you know the
• 33:27
  grains are the seeds. Chickens can eat grains, right?
• 33:30
  Their their stomachs are super adapted to eating seeds.
• 33:33
  Cows, not so much. But So what we've done is we've
• 33:36
  shifted a lot of that focus from all this high fructose corn
• 33:39
  syrup to making fuel with it, like biodiesel and just regular,
• 33:43
  you know, 85 fuels and these, these fuel subsidies for
• 33:47
  gasoline or we're feeding it to cows and making cows sicker and
• 33:51
  fatter. And you know, I, I have a
• 33:53
  neighbor who's a rancher in South Dakota and he's not a
• 33:56
  health nut by any stretch. And I was talking to him.
• 33:59
  He he doesn't show up very often because he has huge ranches and
• 34:03
  lots of cows. But he showed up the other day
• 34:05
  and I took my bike down the driveway quick and I said hi to
• 34:07
  him. And I was saying, hey, man, so
• 34:10
  I'm a hunter. And do you mind if I, you know,
• 34:13
  he's obviously got grass fed free range cows.
• 34:15
  They look super healthy. They're great.
• 34:17
  They're right next to my house. I have a tractor and 20 acres,
• 34:21
  which is fun. And this sounds a little bit
• 34:23
  cruel, but this is just the reality of our food system.
• 34:25
  And again, I'm a hunter, so I, I do this sort of thing.
• 34:27
  I said, can I buy one of your cows at cost right before you
• 34:31
  ship them to the feed lots? And I just shoot it in the head
• 34:34
  and with a gun, take my tractor and just bring it over to my
• 34:37
  place and butcher it 'cause I butcher deer all the time.
• 34:39
  No big deal. My kids watch me butcher deer.
• 34:40
  My kids butcher their own deer at age 9, you know?
• 34:44
  And this guy, he's like, oh sure.
• 34:45
  He surprised me and said sure. I thought he was going to give
• 34:47
  me a bunch of feedback and waffle about it and honestly get
• 34:52
  back to me later or something. He said sure.
• 34:54
  And he says, But what I do this rancher says I send them to the
• 34:59
  feedlots, but before they put hormones in them, I have them
• 35:03
  butchered then because once they put the hormones in them, they
• 35:06
  taste bad. And I was like, what?
• 35:08
  Wait, what? Why are they putting the?
• 35:11
  Hormones in them, and they're giving them a bunch of
• 35:13
  antibiotics and things too, because they get sick when
• 35:15
  they're feeding them all this corn that's super fattening for
• 35:18
  them. But it's not what the cows are
• 35:20
  basically designed to have, right?
• 35:22
  And I was like, hold on a minute.
• 35:24
  They're putting hormones and he's like, yeah, they put these
• 35:26
  pellets in the cows and it affects the flavor.
• 35:28
  And my everybody says my beef at my house tastes way better.
• 35:31
  And I believe them, but that's just another example.
• 35:34
  It's like you can't get away from the corruption in this
• 35:36
  country with all the shenanigans these companies are doing.
• 35:39
  And the beautiful thing about the RFK nomination, it's for the
• 35:42
  HHS, right? Health and Human Services,
• 35:44
  that's above the NIH, that's above the FDA, that's above all
• 35:48
  of these organizations. So he can have a really big
• 35:51
  impact on all of this. And I think he will, whether or
• 35:54
  not it makes headlines in the mainstream or not, it's already
• 35:58
  having an impact. In fact, just on the the way
• 36:00
  these companies are, they're tiptoeing now, right?
• 36:03
  Like when when Elon Musk bought Twitter, all of a sudden my
• 36:06
  YouTube channel was a lot less demonetized when I talked about
• 36:10
  testosterone or something, right?
• 36:11
  Because they used to demonetize me for talking about
• 36:13
  testosterone of all the crazy things, right?
• 36:16
  Which is a side tangent, but drug companies don't like
• 36:18
  testosterone replacement for older men because it usually
• 36:20
  gets them off a bunch of prescription drugs, right?
• 36:22
  And they don't like hormone replacement for women after
• 36:25
  menopause, like estrogen, progesterone, because it gets
• 36:27
  them off a bunch of prescription drugs usually, right?
• 36:29
  So again, that's a tangent. But the point is YouTube was
• 36:33
  demonetizing me for talking about testosterone and totally
• 36:36
  natural hormone. And then as soon as Twitter is
• 36:38
  purchased privately, they backed off a lot of this, right, so
• 36:42
  that it changes the culture when even just the nomination, even
• 36:44
  the suggestion of having RFK, you know, in the in the HHS is
• 36:49
  making a bunch of companies, you know, pull back on a lot of
• 36:53
  their food dyes and a lot of their shenanigans.
• 36:55
  What are you most excited about RF KS appointment and what he
• 36:58
  could do concretely as head of HHS?
• 37:01
  I think it's just the general philosophy that our country
• 37:04
  needs to wake up. It's just the awareness.
• 37:06
  So that's what I'm most excited. It's not one specific dye that
• 37:08
  needs to be removed. It's kind of everything, right?
• 37:11
  It's gotten so bad you can't even go to the store and buy
• 37:14
  cows that aren't filled with hormones.
• 37:16
  And by the way, one of the one of the ways to do this in a
• 37:18
  really simple approach is just to say, let's look at Europe and
• 37:22
  let's look at America, because Europe has hundreds of chemicals
• 37:26
  that they've outlawed in America.
• 37:27
  Still, it has those legalized. And if we just copy what Europe
• 37:31
  is doing, we're in a better state.
• 37:33
  And RFK is he's kind of going in that direction without
• 37:37
  specifically saying he's going in that direction because
• 37:38
  Europe's FDA is called EFSA, it's European Food and Safety
• 37:43
  Authority, FEFSA, EFSA, they've outlawed yellow, yellow 5 and
• 37:50
  yellow 6 they've outlawed. Their fruit loops are not as
• 37:52
  bright. Yeah, all that processed
• 37:54
  nonsense, right? That's why the food companies
• 37:56
  are so tenacious about these fake dyes, because their food
• 38:00
  just comes out brown and nasty looking when you make all this
• 38:02
  processed food, right? And I'm a fan of just get rid of
• 38:05
  the processed food, like stop eating Fruit Loops even if
• 38:07
  they're whether they're bright colored or less colored.
• 38:10
  I think people should get rid of it.
• 38:11
  Like that's not the the problem is the processed food, right?
• 38:14
  So let's move into that because I want to unpack what it is that
• 38:19
  is really hurting people at the at the in the food space.
• 38:23
  I mean, pharmaceuticals, that's another episode, but that's also
• 38:25
  super fascinating. Vaccines, we're going to talk
• 38:27
  about that 2 separately. But I mean, American health at
• 38:31
  large is on decline. Obesity is a huge issue in
• 38:34
  America. Let's start with obesity before
• 38:37
  going into specific products because I do think that is
• 38:39
  connected to all of this. So the obesity rates in the
• 38:42
  United States, how do they compare to the rest of the
• 38:44
  world? Well, most places are going up
• 38:47
  now because most places are adopting American fast food type
• 38:51
  restaurants and that sort of thing.
• 38:55
  We're almost, we're about 50% obesity right now in America,
• 38:58
  not just 50% overweight, 50% obesity.
• 39:00
  And honestly, the people that aren't obese usually have gut
• 39:02
  issues. So a lot of times they have IBS
• 39:04
  or IBD or Crohn's or something that's messing up their gut.
• 39:09
  So they're not absorbing nutrients.
• 39:10
  So they're, they don't look obese, but they have a lot of.
• 39:12
  Health problems Americans are obese And what about kids?
• 39:18
  I don't know the numbers on kids but.
• 39:19
  It says 20% of children and adolescents aged 2 to 19 have
• 39:24
  obesity, which is about 15 million children.
• 39:27
  Well, what's crazy about kids is their metabolism is super high,
• 39:29
  right? So they can get away with a lot
• 39:32
  more shenanigans than older people.
• 39:33
  Because as we get older, our blood sugar goes up and up and
• 39:36
  up if we keep eating that amount of carbs, right?
• 39:38
  And like, did you know diabetes used to be called adult onset
• 39:42
  diabetes? Like if you ever heard that term
• 39:44
  adult diabetes and they changed the name to type 2 diabetes
• 39:48
  because now so many kids have it, it used to not even be found
• 39:50
  in kids. You couldn't find a child with
• 39:53
  type 2 diabetes, right? They called it adult diabetes,
• 39:55
  therefore. So I know we're saying there's,
• 39:57
  you know, 50% of adults, US adults are obese, not just
• 40:00
  overweight, obese. 20% of kids roughly are obese.
• 40:05
  Is this, one could say, well, American?
• 40:07
  I'm not Americans, which is human beings in general because
• 40:10
  of, I don't know, original sin. There's a propensity to overeat.
• 40:13
  Clinton is a thing. People get hooked on unhealthy
• 40:16
  foods. Or there's also maybe their
• 40:18
  genetic disposition to be able to gain more weight more
• 40:22
  quickly. So this is a thing that's always
• 40:25
  been around. They've always been fat people.
• 40:27
  They've always been people who are overweight.
• 40:28
  Yeah, no, I mean, if you look at pictures from the 1920s, you
• 40:31
  won't find them. You won't find overweight people
• 40:35
  in the 1920s. No.
• 40:38
  Look at photos from the beaches and look at photos from, you
• 40:41
  know, New York City or whatever. You won't find them.
• 40:43
  So again, not to play devil's advocate here too hard, but I
• 40:47
  think about as example my grandmother, and I mean, excuse
• 40:50
  me, my great grandmother. And she was, you know, a
• 40:53
  beautiful woman when she she had eight children.
• 40:55
  I have photos of her, you know, I think it's from the 1940s
• 40:58
  maybe. And she's not thin.
• 41:01
  Yeah. So again, I'm, I'm just saying
• 41:03
  that because I, I guess I'm, we're exploring here how much is
• 41:08
  this a, a modern problem, like a, you know, today problem
• 41:12
  versus a human problem. Yeah, I think.
• 41:15
  I mean if you look at the obesity rates, the graph just
• 41:18
  skyrockets from what, the 80s on?
• 41:20
  So it has skyrocketed in the last 30 years, 40 years.
• 41:23
  Oh yeah. The problem is we're almost
• 41:25
  being educated from the medical system onward.
• 41:28
  We're being told, like intermittent fasting is bad.
• 41:31
  We're being told a calorie is just a calorie.
• 41:35
  Which is complete nonsense, by the way, right?
• 41:37
  Breakdown the calorie is just a calorie for us, so I think this
• 41:39
  is fundamental to what we're discussing.
• 41:41
  So why is? It like it's a nine.
• 41:43
  It's an 80 calorie bag of gummy bears made from high fruit.
• 41:47
  Just corn syrup versus it's an 80 calories of meat.
• 41:51
  Yeah, because when you eat those gummy bears, you get hungrier
• 41:55
  and you eat more #1 #2 it raises your blood sugar.
• 41:58
  When you raise your blood sugar, your insulin goes up.
• 42:01
  And insulin is a fat storage hormone.
• 42:04
  It tells your body to store more fat.
• 42:06
  So if you're constantly have high insulin, your body saying,
• 42:08
  hey, store more fat, store more fat, store more fat.
• 42:10
  How are you supposed to lose weight when you're got your
• 42:11
  insulin super high? All the time.
• 42:12
  Keep your insulin low by eating. Not eating carbs.
• 42:16
  Yeah, you can eat a lot of fat, too.
• 42:17
  You'd be surprised how much fat that I eat and that you can eat
• 42:21
  and stay super lean. I have a friend, his name is
• 42:25
  Robert Sykes. He's a natural bodybuilder.
• 42:28
  He, he eats mostly fat. Like, it's ridiculous how much
• 42:31
  fat he eats. And he's super, super lean.
• 42:32
  That's one of the ways he gets lean, right?
• 42:34
  You teach your body to burn fats by eating a lot of fat.
• 42:37
  It's the carbs that throw it off, right?
• 42:39
  And I'm not demonizing all carbs, especially for kids
• 42:41
  because again, kids have a high metabolism.
• 42:43
  They need some carbs, right? They need a little bit more
• 42:45
  meals per day probably compared to, you know, older aged people
• 42:49
  like myself. But you know, a lot of it starts
• 42:53
  with the carbs. A lot of it starts with the
• 42:54
  addictive properties of the foods.
• 42:55
  But it gets worse because they had a study on atrazine, which
• 42:59
  is a chemical that they, it's a herbicide.
• 43:02
  It's the second most used herbicide in North America.
• 43:04
  And Robert F Kennedy specifically talked about
• 43:06
  atrazine. And again, he's gotten that
• 43:08
  directly from my book, which is cool.
• 43:10
  But Atrazine's illegal in Europe, second most used
• 43:13
  herbicide in North America. They did a study with two groups
• 43:17
  of rats. I wrote about this study in my
• 43:19
  book 1 and by the way, the both of the groups of rats exact same
• 43:23
  calories, right And the beautiful thing about rats
• 43:27
  compared to humans is they don't cheat on their diet.
• 43:29
  You give them food that you have to eat what they get.
• 43:31
  That's. All they can't open the fridge
• 43:33
  outside the cage. Yeah, humans often times
• 43:35
  misreport. They misremember, they cheat,
• 43:38
  they don't admit to cheating, all this sort of thing.
• 43:40
  They exercise at different amounts, they have different
• 43:42
  stress, they have different sleep.
• 43:42
  There's a lot of variables. With rats, you give them this,
• 43:45
  you got two groups, same calories.
• 43:47
  What they did in the drinking water is one of the groups had
• 43:50
  pure drinking water. The other group, they put low
• 43:53
  dose atrazine and they emphasize it was low dose because they're
• 43:56
  not trying to poison them. They're just giving them a
• 43:57
  normal amount that normal people in America are getting in their
• 44:00
  diet. That group was obese.
• 44:03
  The other group is normal. That's insane.
• 44:05
  And these? Rats.
• 44:06
  Had the same calories. One group had this added to the
• 44:08
  water Atrazine is in. All of our grains, it's using
• 44:13
  the grains. Even organic.
• 44:16
  So that's why organic grains are less likely to make you fat.
• 44:20
  For sure. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 44:23
  I mean, sourdough helps too because that breaks down a lot
• 44:26
  of the glutens, right. Fermenting helps.
• 44:29
  Buying European grains helps because they've genetically bred
• 44:33
  a lot of the American grains. Different.
• 44:35
  There's a lot of variables. Europe has stricter laws on mold
• 44:38
  toxins. So there's a there's amounts of
• 44:40
  mold that are regulated more carefully in Europe.
• 44:44
  In fact, in Europe they regulate the amount of mold in animal
• 44:50
  feeds like horse food and cow food and things stricter than
• 44:52
  they regulate the human food in America for the amount of mold
• 44:57
  the animal feeds in Europe are stricter than America.
• 44:59
  So the animal feed mold regulation is stricter than
• 45:02
  American food, the safety regulation, Yep.
• 45:06
  So if you're getting. True story, if you have horse
• 45:08
  feed in Europe like oatmeal or something and it has too much
• 45:11
  mold, they can ship it over to America and put it in processed
• 45:14
  foods. Here do.
• 45:15
  They do that. I don't have any proof, but
• 45:18
  yeah, sure, these companies are mostly just interested in money,
• 45:21
  right? And I, I wrote about that in my
• 45:24
  book specifically, right, Comparing Europe and America and
• 45:27
  their mold regulations and all the numbers and all that stuff.
• 45:31
  Yeah, it's a huge problem. And molds can make you fatter
• 45:33
  too, right? If you're exposed to more
• 45:35
  mycotoxins, mold toxins, you gain a lot of weight because
• 45:38
  your body is, your body makes fat cells to protect against
• 45:41
  toxicity, right? If you poison yourself, your
• 45:44
  body wants to put the toxins in the fat and not in your brain
• 45:48
  cells because you want to kill your brain first.
• 45:50
  You want to try and like buffer the toxins.
• 45:51
  You want to try and store them somewhere so that at least
• 45:54
  you're not getting killed from them.
• 45:56
  And that's a natural process. So the more of these toxins you
• 45:59
  start ingesting, the more your body makes more fat cells and
• 46:02
  pumps them into the fat cells. And of course then they store
• 46:05
  for a long time. I want to just pull this really
• 46:07
  quick. It says in the United States,
• 46:09
  obesity rates for adults have increased by 70% in the last 30
• 46:14
  years. From 1999 to 2, 2018, the age
• 46:17
  adjusted prevalence of obesity increased from 30% to 42% and
• 46:23
  the obesity rates for children have increased 85% in the last
• 46:28
  30 years. Yeah.
• 46:30
  And it's probably up to 50. I know it says 42% there, but
• 46:33
  that's older data. That's from like five years ago.
• 46:36
  It's up to 50%. I'm telling you there's no data
• 46:39
  yet, but I guarantee you as they've refreshed the data.
• 46:42
  Earlier I asked what are the biggest culprits and you said of
• 46:46
  this obesity pandemic and also the health associate, all the
• 46:50
  health, negative health outcomes associated with that, which are
• 46:53
  heart disease, cancer. You know, we could go on.
• 46:56
  You said soy, corn and wheat, but you're not just talking
• 46:58
  about soy, corn and wheat on their own as in their most pure
• 47:03
  form. You're talking about the way
• 47:05
  that they are also harvested and how they're grown because you
• 47:08
  earlier you're talking about wheat as an example.
• 47:10
  And wheat, organic wheat has a hugely and mold free wheat I
• 47:14
  guess would have a hugely different impact on the on the
• 47:17
  human body than moldy and non organic wheat.
• 47:20
  Correct. But if you hyper process it,
• 47:22
  it's still full of an unnatural amount of carbs and and
• 47:26
  unnaturally imbalanced. And so it triggers your brain
• 47:28
  differently. But yeah, yeah.
• 47:30
  And, and throw sugar in there. You threw sugar in there before.
• 47:32
  So I like that addition. Corn, soy, wheat and sugar.
• 47:37
  That's a huge step. If people get that stuff out of
• 47:39
  their diet and their kids diets, Oh my gosh.
• 47:42
  And then again, like all these artificial chemicals that are
• 47:45
  just blatantly on the labels, like these red 40s and things
• 47:48
  that cause ADHD and red #3 and by the way, some of these
• 47:51
  aren't, aren't totally illegal in Europe.
• 47:54
  Like Red and 40 is technically legal in Europe, but they have
• 47:58
  to put a warning label on their food if you have it.
• 48:01
  And it says this might cause health problems.
• 48:04
  And so nobody does it, right? They put beet juice in Europe.
• 48:07
  I've been to Europe. I've looked at the labels.
• 48:08
  I lived in Austria for a long time, right?
• 48:12
  So even when they're not technically illegal, because
• 48:14
  people would say, well, what about why don't we just make it
• 48:16
  the same as Europe? And it's not just about the, you
• 48:19
  know, whether they're legal or not, it's also the, they're just
• 48:23
  general philosophy about these chemicals.
• 48:25
  I want to get to the red dyes, the yellow dyes, the food dyes
• 48:29
  in a minute, but back to the soy, corn, wheat and sugar.
• 48:33
  And that's make it now practical for people listening because we
• 48:37
  know, we probably I know you have written extensively on
• 48:39
  these. We could probably talk for hours
• 48:41
  about the why behind each product, how it's, you know, the
• 48:44
  subsidies, how it impacts the production, the pesticides, all
• 48:48
  of the things. But what would you say?
• 48:51
  Let's start with wheat. So if you are like, I like to
• 48:54
  bake, OK, So I love to bake, you know, cinnamon coffee, cake and
• 49:00
  obviously muffins. And I like to bake, you know,
• 49:02
  cookies and I make waffles and I make pancakes.
• 49:06
  And that's something that I enjoy doing.
• 49:07
  My kids love it. And we do use the organic wheat
• 49:12
  that they sell at Costco, right as an example.
• 49:14
  I wish I had the label here to, to look at what should I be on
• 49:18
  the lookout? Let's start with the the wheat
• 49:19
  and then we'll talk about the sugar.
• 49:21
  What what is the good wheat that one can use to bake with?
• 49:24
  Or would you just say cut? Out if you have bad gluten genes
• 49:27
  like me personally, and you're getting acid reflux or something
• 49:30
  that might indicate you have bad gluten genes.
• 49:33
  It's not worth it in my opinion. You have to use rice flour or
• 49:36
  something like that. And when you say because of your
• 49:39
  genes and I know you do these genetic tests, but is that
• 49:43
  connected to your ethnicity as being from a particular region
• 49:47
  of the world or? Yeah.
• 49:48
  But it's the problem is we have a melting pot.
• 49:50
  So everybody has all these different genes from all these
• 49:53
  different cultures and tribes. What's your What is your genetic
• 49:56
  background? It's all over Irish and Polish
• 49:58
  and this. So if you're more like Irish
• 50:00
  Polish type, are you more likely to have a gluten allergy?
• 50:03
  Probably. I mean, I don't think my
• 50:06
  ancestors were, you know, they probably weren't farmers as much
• 50:09
  as they were just eating meat. And like I, I have amazing dairy
• 50:12
  jeans. I can, I can literally take a
• 50:14
  month off of all dairy, go to the grocery store, buy regular
• 50:17
  milk, drink 3 glasses, feel totally fine.
• 50:20
  If you have bad dairy jeans, you definitely can't do that.
• 50:23
  You, you will know, you know what I mean?
• 50:26
  And I can predict that kind of stuff with people.
• 50:28
  And there's a lot more depth to a lot of this too than just
• 50:31
  gluten and dairy and whatever. I'm just using those as easy
• 50:33
  examples because people see it in their real lives a lot of
• 50:36
  times. So it's a little complicated,
• 50:38
  right? Because you don't want to just
• 50:40
  generalize and say everybody should avoid gluten or whatever.
• 50:44
  Because again, there are better versions.
• 50:45
  There's the European versions, there's the fermented.
• 50:47
  Well, let's go back to the whole like 30-40 years ago there.
• 50:51
  I mean, 70% more into obesity today than there was 30 years
• 50:54
  ago. 30 years ago, people were still eating bread.
• 50:57
  It's not like we eat more bread today necessarily, right?
• 51:00
  It's just the kind of bread that we're eating and how it's
• 51:02
  processed. There's probably more
• 51:05
  consumption too, but but yeah, like soda consumption has gone
• 51:09
  up and up and up and things like that.
• 51:10
  There's definitely more sugar in our diet and more seed oils even
• 51:13
  more dramatically. But in terms of the wheat, it
• 51:16
  sounds like what you're saying is go organic and then
• 51:19
  understand that some people's due to their genetic background,
• 51:23
  they are more able to tolerate wheat and gluten than others.
• 51:27
  But largely speaking the the rule of the rule of thumb with
• 51:30
  wheat would be to do organic wheat.
• 51:32
  It's very important because you're avoiding that chemical
• 51:35
  that you mentioned earlier. Atrazine and glyphosate.
• 51:37
  Atrazine and glycophate, which made the rats obese.
• 51:41
  Yep. OK.
• 51:42
  Yeah, that's very helpful. Yeah, and corn also same sort of
• 51:46
  thing, like be really careful, right?
• 51:49
  And so I also right, there's a lot of corruption in those
• 51:51
  three. I mean, they, they're
• 51:53
  commodities, right? Just.
• 51:54
  Like tell us more about corn. Is it organic corn that's going
• 51:58
  to be better than non organic? Always, Yeah.
• 52:01
  And again, a lot of these these things get corrupted, right.
• 52:04
  And again, this is where hopefully RFK does a good job
• 52:06
  because there's a lot of opportunity.
• 52:09
  They they've manipulated the organic term.
• 52:11
  So then they're allowed to use some pesticides and some
• 52:13
  herbicides and allow whatever. So like, for example, I know
• 52:17
  farmers that do organic, not, not all of them do this
• 52:20
  hopefully, but they go out the year before and they blast their
• 52:24
  fields with glyphosate and put way more than they would
• 52:26
  normally put down on, kill everything.
• 52:28
  And then the next year they make it organic by putting seeds in
• 52:31
  that soil that's completely dead, right?
• 52:34
  And then when they get inspected or whatever, they're not
• 52:36
  spraying anything on it. But they put glyphosate down the
• 52:39
  year before at crazy high levels, right?
• 52:41
  So there's a lot of like weird loopholes and weird shenanigans
• 52:44
  that some people do and some people don't.
• 52:46
  And this is the problem with industrialized food in general
• 52:49
  was you don't really know and you know.
• 52:52
  Is there a Is there a wheat producer that you recommend?
• 52:57
  I don't buy that stuff. I don't get.
• 52:58
  I don't. I stay.
• 52:59
  With any you don't do any grains.
• 53:01
  I do. White rice, you know, I mean,
• 53:04
  but yeah, in general. Organic for.
• 53:06
  Me. Yeah.
• 53:08
  I don't even think it's organic. Maybe I'd have.
• 53:10
  My wife does all that shopping. But is that because rice is
• 53:13
  harder like the the rice industry, a lot of that's
• 53:16
  imported, right? Yeah, and rice is a plant you
• 53:19
  did grows in water. You know, they flood the fields
• 53:22
  and so you don't have to spray a bunch of nonsense on them
• 53:24
  because there's not a lot of predation on those plants.
• 53:26
  So the plants don't make a lot of toxins because we're talking
• 53:29
  this whole time, we're talking about chemicals that humans are
• 53:32
  putting on, these patented chemicals that we're making a
• 53:34
  bunch of money on like glyphosate or whatever.
• 53:37
  If we haven't even talked about the fact that like plants make
• 53:39
  toxins too, right? And when people have gut issues,
• 53:43
  a lot of times it's gluten or something that's naturally found
• 53:46
  in the plant. Like the reason plants make
• 53:47
  gluten, it's not a a vitamin. Plants aren't making gluten
• 53:50
  because it's beneficial to the plants growth.
• 53:53
  They make gluten as a toxin to kill insects or to make sure
• 53:56
  animals don't eat the seeds, right?
• 53:58
  Because if you have wheat grass, like you've heard of wheat grass
• 54:01
  juice, there's no gluten in there.
• 54:03
  That's because it's the the wheat leaf, right?
• 54:05
  It's the plant. But if you start isolating the
• 54:07
  seeds, that's where you find all these toxins and white rice,
• 54:11
  they've removed the husks, you know, the brown part.
• 54:14
  So they've gotten rid of a lot of these toxins that the plants
• 54:16
  make. But I'm not talking about human
• 54:19
  sprayed chemicals. I'm talking about plant derived
• 54:22
  toxins. And am I saying like it's the
• 54:24
  end of the world if you have brown rice versus white rice?
• 54:26
  No. But some people it is.
• 54:27
  Some people have Crohn's disease or something.
• 54:29
  And they'll be the first ones to tell you I can't eat brown rice.
• 54:31
  I can only eat white rice. And then you go to the doctor,
• 54:34
  Lila, and the doctor's gonna say the total opposite.
• 54:36
  I know the doctor recommends Brown specifically over white.
• 54:39
  Interesting. That's the problem with
• 54:41
  dietitians and doctors in general.
• 54:42
  It's the training, right? If they're, it's very
• 54:44
  homogeneous, meaning if you go to California, you go to
• 54:46
  Florida, you go to New York, they all say the same thing.
• 54:48
  Why are they saying the same thing?
• 54:49
  Because they're all trained exactly the same way, but if you
• 54:52
  train them incorrectly, then you train everybody wrong.
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  And now everybody's saying, oh, you've got gut issues, eat brown
• 54:57
  rice. That's crazy.
• 54:59
  Have you never talked to somebody with gut issues?
• 55:01
  They always say they can't tolerate Brown.
• 55:02
  Rice, right? Or go organic wheat, but try to
• 55:05
  avoid wheat. It sounds like rice is better
• 55:07
  than wheat in your view. Oh, for sure.
• 55:09
  And and and why? Tell me why?
• 55:11
  Why? It's just easier on your gut
• 55:12
  lining. It's it.
• 55:13
  It has a lot of carbs, but let's assume that you're not overdoing
• 55:17
  it and eating just unlimited carbs all the time, right?
• 55:19
  Again, if there's one thing you're going to limit in terms
• 55:22
  of macros, macros are protein, fats, and carbs.
• 55:24
  Those are the three macros, right?
• 55:26
  There's one thing you're going to be careful for.
• 55:27
  It's got to be carbs in our modern society.
• 55:29
  Why? Because sugar acts on the
• 55:31
  cocaine side of your brain, right?
• 55:33
  If you go hog wild and eat as much hamburgers as you want,
• 55:36
  you'll probably only eat like two or three hamburgers and
• 55:38
  you're pretty much good. But.
• 55:39
  You can eat a whole box of Oreos.
• 55:41
  Yeah, you start doing the cookies and the carbs and the
• 55:43
  sugar. Yeah.
• 55:44
  OK, why is sourdough bread bread better than whole wheat bread?
• 55:48
  Both of them organic, let's say in the scenario.
• 55:50
  Yeah, it's because the fermentation breaks down a lot
• 55:53
  of those natural plant toxins. It just makes it easier to
• 55:57
  digest. And then let's talk about soy.
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  So soybean oil is in so many things.
• 56:04
  And soy is also, you know, soy burgers.
• 56:07
  It's also part of the kind of vegan movement.
• 56:10
  You could say it's usually used as a important replacement for
• 56:14
  animal proteins. What is the truth about soy?
• 56:20
  It's mostly corruption problematic for people.
• 56:23
  I'm not a fan. I mean, it has isoflavones which
• 56:26
  act like estrogen, first of all, and I write about that in my
• 56:28
  book Isoflavones. Everybody agrees soy acts like
• 56:34
  estrogen. Nobody debates that.
• 56:36
  Like if you talk to scientists, everybody agrees.
• 56:37
  They all agree it definitely acts like estrogen.
• 56:40
  Most men don't want more estrogen like you.
• 56:42
  Just ask man. That that that derogatory term,
• 56:45
  soy boy. Yeah, because it definitely acts
• 56:47
  like estrogen. The thing is, is a lot of
• 56:49
  scientists will argue that it's good estrogen, say, oh, it's
• 56:52
  good for you, just like they'll say birth control is good for
• 56:54
  you. What's crazy about birth
• 56:55
  control? And again, a little bit of a
• 56:56
  side tangent, but I can't resist birth control decreases your
• 57:01
  ovarian cancer like .1%, tiny, tiny amount, but it increases
• 57:06
  your breast cancer like twofold, right?
• 57:08
  Which is massive. They say that's and.
• 57:09
  If you go to the doctor. Right.
• 57:12
  I mean, obviously, but the birth control companies typically are
• 57:15
  like, no, there's no breast cancer.
• 57:17
  Like it's extremely limited or that's like that's not
• 57:20
  conclusive. There's a lot of contests.
• 57:23
  Again, I wrote about this in the book, I wrote about these exact
• 57:25
  numbers and the exact studies. And so again, like I wouldn't go
• 57:29
  to the drug companies to look for the sources.
• 57:31
  I would go to the actual research studies first of all.
• 57:33
  But The funny thing is if you go to the doctor and you talk to
• 57:36
  him about birth control, he'll tell, he won't say nothing about
• 57:38
  breast cancer and he'll say everything about how it prevents
• 57:40
  ovarian cancer and how good it is.
• 57:41
  And it's this tiny miniscule thing, right?
• 57:44
  It might even be just be noise in the research study.
• 57:46
  Like they just happen to have a few extra people that didn't get
• 57:48
  ovarian cancer in this group and that group and whatever.
• 57:51
  And it might have been totally random, but they make these
• 57:52
  conclusions and they push it, push it, push it.
• 57:54
  And they do the same with soy where depending on the study
• 57:58
  that you look at, and again, these studies are funded by the
• 58:02
  these companies that are making ridiculous amounts of money on
• 58:05
  the soy. Some of them say it's terrible
• 58:07
  for you. Some of them say the estrogenic
• 58:09
  aspect, the estrogen that's found in soy is good for you.
• 58:11
  There's debate, but let's at least acknowledge it acts like
• 58:15
  estrogen because everybody does agree with with that, right?
• 58:18
  And so that's the first thing about soy.
• 58:20
  It acts like estrogen second. And we have enough estrogen in
• 58:23
  our culture and then our with all these other chemicals that
• 58:26
  trigger estrogen. We've got enough of that as it
• 58:28
  is, in my opinion. The other thing is the
• 58:30
  pesticides and the herbicides. The other thing is the hyper
• 58:32
  processing. The other thing, you know,
• 58:34
  there's so many aspects. Mold, right, GMO, you know what
• 58:38
  I mean? So there's a lot of different
• 58:41
  component, There's a lot of different angles you could take
• 58:43
  it, but I think it's just wise to be extra cautious, yeah, and
• 58:47
  avoid. It and then we were talking
• 58:48
  about corn and sugar and again, let's go to the sugar first
• 58:52
  because corn syrup I think a lot of people can get behind.
• 58:55
  OK yeah, using pure cane sugar is better than using corn syrup.
• 58:59
  Like if I had to pick one to put in my baked good, I'm going to
• 59:03
  pick the more natural form of the what I I, I feel is more
• 59:06
  natural the cane sugar and I I daily I'm using organic sugar.
• 59:11
  What is the is? Is it?
• 59:13
  Is there such a thing as organic cane sugar in a healthy amount?
• 59:17
  Like, do we really have to do away?
• 59:18
  With what's this is where genetics are really important.
• 59:22
  So some people have a lot of diabetes genes where and that
• 59:25
  doesn't mean you're gonna get diabetes, right?
• 59:26
  When you have genes for Alzheimer's or diabetes or heart
• 59:29
  disease, it doesn't mean you're gonna get heart disease.
• 59:31
  It doesn't mean you're gonna get Alzheimer's.
• 59:33
  It just means you have a higher risk.
• 59:34
  You have to pay more attention to those things in specific
• 59:36
  ways. And if you have a lot of
• 59:37
  diabetes genes, that means you just can't eat as many carbs as
• 59:41
  most people. That's just the way it is.
• 59:42
  And you definitely can't be blasting your blood sugar with
• 59:44
  the sugar like straight sugar, because if you eat a blueberry,
• 59:48
  a bunch of blueberries, you know, like let's say you eat 100
• 59:51
  grams of carbs in the form of blueberries, that goes into your
• 59:54
  system pretty slowly. But if you eat 100 grams of
• 59:57
  carbs in the form of Coca-Cola or something, that blasts into
• 1:00:00
  your system, right? And that's why people feel so
• 1:00:03
  sick afterwards. Sometimes the crush they have
• 1:00:05
  the sugar highs it. Spikes your blood sugar, spikes
• 1:00:07
  your insulin. But is the Coca-Cola?
• 1:00:09
  Is Coca-Cola better if it's made with pure cane sugar than if
• 1:00:12
  it's made with corn syrup? Depends on your genes.
• 1:00:14
  Some people have fructose problems.
• 1:00:17
  Like their genes are very bad for fructose.
• 1:00:19
  Why? Because it stores up in their
• 1:00:20
  liver as fat, so it just gives them fatty liver disease.
• 1:00:23
  Sometimes it causes uric acid to raise.
• 1:00:25
  It usually causes uric acid. Uric acid is what called is what
• 1:00:28
  causes gout. You know those crystals of of
• 1:00:31
  uric acid in people's joints, That's fructose.
• 1:00:34
  Some people are really sensitive to fructose.
• 1:00:36
  So in those people for sure it's worse to have high fructose corn
• 1:00:39
  syrup. In other people, it doesn't
• 1:00:40
  really matter, right? That's the problem with
• 1:00:41
  generalizing is humans are very different depending on what our
• 1:00:45
  ancestors did. There are definitely people that
• 1:00:47
  lived in tropical climates, ate all kinds of fruit and fructose
• 1:00:50
  all the time and they handle it really well.
• 1:00:53
  Honestly I would say most people not so much.
• 1:00:55
  And would you, can you draw a generalization based on like,
• 1:00:58
  OK, if you're from Northern Europe and it's colder,
• 1:01:02
  typically there's not a lot of like fruits on the trees year
• 1:01:04
  round. Genetically, you're going to be
• 1:01:06
  less predisposed to handle that than say, the person that is
• 1:01:10
  from like a, you know, island who has ancestors from an island
• 1:01:14
  in the middle of the, you know. That's the pattern you see.
• 1:01:17
  The problem is we have such a melting pot.
• 1:01:18
  The equator, I should say. That's warm all year round.
• 1:01:20
  The problem with genes is like if you have even like 1%
• 1:01:25
  European and 99% Costa Rican or whatever, you might have picked
• 1:01:31
  up that one gene that does very poorly with fructose in your
• 1:01:34
  liver and now you've got a fatty liver disease.
• 1:01:36
  I had a woman once, she was 100 lbs, like a tiny little woman,
• 1:01:39
  and she was eating lots of fruit all the time and she had fatty
• 1:01:43
  liver disease and the doctor never told her to stop eating
• 1:01:45
  fruit. I had her to stop eating like
• 1:01:47
  she had the gene, of course, right for fatty liver disease.
• 1:01:49
  And again, it doesn't mean you're getting fatty liver
• 1:01:51
  disease. It just means you can't be
• 1:01:52
  pounding fruit every day, three times a day.
• 1:01:56
  And she got rid of fructose, you know, all that fructose and her
• 1:01:59
  liver cleared up just fine. And, and, and her doctor had a
• 1:02:01
  bunch of drugs, like they were worried about her life.
• 1:02:03
  Like you can die with fatty liver disease.
• 1:02:05
  It clogs up your whole liver. And this is from eating fruit.
• 1:02:08
  So this general advice to eat more fruits and veggies is bad
• 1:02:12
  advice, right? Just generalizing people's
• 1:02:15
  diets, like generally saying gluten is bad for everybody.
• 1:02:18
  It's kind of bad advice. Some people handle it just fine.
• 1:02:21
  There's nothing wrong with it if you do right.
• 1:02:24
  But in general, processed foods, yeah, I think that's a good one
• 1:02:28
  to generalize on. Our ancestors for thousands of
• 1:02:30
  years never ate processed foods, and let's just go ahead and
• 1:02:32
  generalize on that one. Thanks so much for listening to
• 1:02:35
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:40
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• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:46
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• 1:02:49
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:54
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