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Nikki Walton Talks Finding Purpose & Spirituality, Confidence in her Natural Hair + MORE · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: week and it's called Money Making Conversations. My next guest
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Speaker 1: is a longtime friend. Her name is Nicki Walton. Nick
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Speaker 1: is the best selling and nuble A CP Award winning
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Speaker 1: nominated author, TV personality for the podcast, host which we
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Speaker 1: will talk about in detail, licensed psychotherapists which we'll talk
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Speaker 1: about in detail. In two thousand and eight, Walton launched
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Speaker 1: curly Nikki dot com, which became the number one natural
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Speaker 1: hair care blog site in the world, reaching millions of
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Speaker 1: women in over thirty countries and influencing the marketing and
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Speaker 1: formulation of products for major beauty brands. In one Walton
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Speaker 1: launched Nikki That Is Good Mornings with Curly Nikki, a
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Speaker 1: daily morning show to help listeners find peace and chaos
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Speaker 1: and light and darkness. It debates in the Top five
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Speaker 1: and spirituality on Apple Podcasts. Nikki Walton is dedicated to
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Speaker 1: helping people find freedom through their natural hair, healthier lifestyle choices,
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Speaker 1: and ultimately through their spiritual enlightenment. Please work with the
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Speaker 1: money making conversation. It's been too long, which fouling. She
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Speaker 1: has arrived. Nikki Walton, Thank you, thank you, so honored
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Speaker 1: to be here. You have a powerful, powerful platform. I
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Speaker 1: absolutely appreciate everything you do to keep us all inspired,
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Speaker 1: push for greater, like it up, always level it up. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, I thank you, thank you. You know, we've
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Speaker 1: we've known that on each other for a long time.
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Speaker 1: You know, when Steve and I was at HarperCollins and
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Speaker 1: who was introduced when your first book came out and
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Speaker 1: uh and and I want to start there. I want
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Speaker 1: to start there because of the natural hair care boom,
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Speaker 1: which I like to believe you were in front of,
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Speaker 1: and now it seems to be. You know, we've seen lawsuits,
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Speaker 1: we've seen uh, we've seen corporate structures change, we've seen
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Speaker 1: the military service change their standards. With that being said,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about that journey that started, and it started
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Speaker 1: before two thousand and eight, but then you launch your
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Speaker 1: site curly Nikki dot com and two thousand and eight. So,
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Speaker 1: but a lot of people question your journey, your decision
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Speaker 1: and said, hey, what's wrong with straight hair? You never
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Speaker 1: said it was anything wrong with straight hair or processed
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Speaker 1: hair or permed hair. It just say why can't I
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Speaker 1: do it naturally correct exact, Let's get some healthy options
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Speaker 1: and versatility. I've never been anti straight hair, or anti weed,
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Speaker 1: or even anti relaxing. I just wanted to show women
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Speaker 1: that they had the option to embrace and work with
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Speaker 1: their texture, which can truly improve your quality of life.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up being afraid to get in
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Speaker 1: a swimming pool. I grew up being afraid to get
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Speaker 1: in the drop top car. I grew up being afraid
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Speaker 1: to go on vacation without a plan for my hair.
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Speaker 1: You know, you can't go to a job interview unless
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Speaker 1: you already know, like what I'm gonna do with my hair,
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Speaker 1: And when you're trying to figure that out, you're not
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Speaker 1: preparing for the interview itself, right, you're not on your
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Speaker 1: A game. So learning how to work with your hair,
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Speaker 1: learning and like learning how to appreciate it and feel
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Speaker 1: good in your own hair, freeze up some bandwidth to
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Speaker 1: be able to actually succeed and focus on the things
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Speaker 1: that need to So it's like it's it completely changes
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Speaker 1: your entire life when your hair isn't the foremost, the
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Speaker 1: foremost thought in your mind. Okay, let's listen to you.
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Speaker 1: I grew up with six sisters. Because I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: them authority on anybody's hair, especially my own. I don't
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Speaker 1: even have hair, Okay, so at some point I had it.
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Speaker 1: I had it, but I thought I was looking good.
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Speaker 1: I still think I'm looking good without it, So were
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Speaker 1: picking up at all? I thought I was a baby
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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson because we was the same age. So Mike
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Speaker 1: me going out there and grooving together. When when I
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Speaker 1: look at the one exactly because I want to really
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Speaker 1: get a clear definition with natural hairts because my mom,
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Speaker 1: you know, she would take a curling iron to my
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Speaker 1: sister's hair and straighten it out. Okay, now is that
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Speaker 1: the natural hair? That are we saying that that's what
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Speaker 1: straightening is? No, that is heat style. Natural hair. So
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Speaker 1: that's what I grew up with. We weren't allowed to
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Speaker 1: get terms or relaxers in my household. That was the
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Speaker 1: decision that we were gonna have to make, you know,
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Speaker 1: got out of the house. But eat sally. That's blow dryers,
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Speaker 1: that's hot curlers, that's pressing combs off, so that's flat iron.
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Speaker 1: You can eat sell your natural hair, but if you
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Speaker 1: don't do it carefully, and if you do it too much,
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Speaker 1: you can end up damaging your your natural hair. And
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Speaker 1: actually called it to eminently straightening up to throw that out,
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Speaker 1: or to just get dry and break off, which I
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Speaker 1: dealt with in college when I started playing with tea
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Speaker 1: too much. Right, and now then I'm gonna go to
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Speaker 1: my daughter. You know, she was a tennis prodigy, prodigy
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Speaker 1: and so you know, wanting to you know, you get
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Speaker 1: a process. So it was quick and easy. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not using terminology. You're not trying to get anybody mad, not,
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Speaker 1: I'm just speaking Roushan point of reference. Okay, my sisters,
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Speaker 1: my next point of references my daughter. Okay, and I
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Speaker 1: would say that I did the permanent. We have to
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Speaker 1: stop because of the fact that it broke all our
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Speaker 1: hair out, okay, But we were doing it because it
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Speaker 1: was convenient. We were doing it because it lasts a
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Speaker 1: certain period of time. I didn't have to be bothered.
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Speaker 1: Is that what it is? That is that part of
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Speaker 1: the problem of women's subcompanien convenience as major that's all
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Speaker 1: of us. But the problem is why why is that
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Speaker 1: work convenient? And it's because of the standard society standard
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Speaker 1: that's straight hair is better. So it's convenient to get
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Speaker 1: a firm instead of h you know, get your hair
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Speaker 1: flatir because it's going to actually last longer. I might
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Speaker 1: withstand the humidity. If you'll get it wet, you know,
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Speaker 1: it'll stay straighter, you know, versus you having it pressed out.
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Speaker 1: So it's convenient if you're trying to mimic a certain
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Speaker 1: standard of beauty. But it's less convenient, you know, if
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Speaker 1: you're actually trying to work with the texture, Like my
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Speaker 1: hair doesn't grow. I don't mind scalp straight. You know,
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Speaker 1: or opportunities because you feel if you're not looking like that,
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Speaker 1: how can you be successful exactly? Now, it's very very challenging,
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Speaker 1: and you have to find a center within yourself so
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Speaker 1: that yes, you received constructive criticisms, but that you're not
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Speaker 1: on a roller coaster going up and down with people
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Speaker 1: praising you or people putting you down. When I first
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Speaker 1: decided to go natural, my family was not for it,
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Speaker 1: and that it wasn't coming from a place of um hate,
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Speaker 1: It was coming from a place of protection. They wanted
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Speaker 1: to see me have the most, you know, opportunities to
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Speaker 1: get into the best schools, to get the best jobs.
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Speaker 1: And they honestly didn't think, because of the society that
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Speaker 1: we live in, that I would have the opportunity to
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Speaker 1: do that with my hair and looking like this, you know.
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Speaker 1: So they were like, no, no, no, re sacrificed so
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Speaker 1: much for you, just just where it's straight, and I couldn't.
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Speaker 1: I respect them and I love them, but I knew
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Speaker 1: that that advice wasn't something that I could take, you know,
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Speaker 1: because I was coming, I was beginning to come into
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Speaker 1: my own and into my self love. And I'm like,
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Speaker 1: if the world can't accept me how I was born,
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Speaker 1: If you know, this job or this school, this university
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Speaker 1: can't accept this in this package without it, you know,
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Speaker 1: being modified, then I don't need to be there. I'll
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Speaker 1: take it somewhere else and succeed there. And thankfully, you know,
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Speaker 1: I paved away for myself and other women who look
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Speaker 1: like me to be able to stand in rooms and
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Speaker 1: stand in the light with their hair the way it
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Speaker 1: naturally grows. And if I want to straighten it tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: which I do, sometimes, I can do that and I'll
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Speaker 1: feel just as pretty that way, but now, thank god,
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Speaker 1: I own't. I don't only feel pretty when my hair
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Speaker 1: is straight because I went through that, you know, all
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Speaker 1: through col it. I only felt pretty when my hair
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Speaker 1: was straightened. And that's not healthy because that's not what
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Speaker 1: it looks like most of the time. You know. It's
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Speaker 1: really interesting because when I'm talking to I'm talking to
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Speaker 1: Nicki Walton, Um, founder of the Curly Nikki dot com website,
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Speaker 1: and I'd like to say, um movement, Let's let's say
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Speaker 1: curly Nikki dot com movement, because you know, but you know,
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Speaker 1: you have to deal with a lot. Let's let's go
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Speaker 1: and break it down when we talk about natural hair,
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Speaker 1: because natural hair within our black community, okay, you have
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Speaker 1: to deal with that, you know, and then you have
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Speaker 1: to each other and you have natural hair within the
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Speaker 1: white community, because they really didn't understand what's wrong with
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Speaker 1: your hair? While your hair all over the place? Why
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Speaker 1: is it so big? You know? So how do were
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Speaker 1: you able to because that's what they were worried about,
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Speaker 1: you know. You know, as a parent, that's all I
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Speaker 1: worry about my daughter. I was just trying to give
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Speaker 1: her a better life, a better opportunity to not endure
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Speaker 1: the pain and suffering that I endure and if I
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Speaker 1: can get her there a lot better with the advice,
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Speaker 1: that's all they was doing. But in the process of
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Speaker 1: saying who you want to be, that was your community,
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Speaker 1: your people telling you know. So now you have your
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Speaker 1: community telling you know, and then you know. In the
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Speaker 1: real world, like we talked about, the military has changed
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Speaker 1: their laws you still read about periodically, or some athletes
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Speaker 1: or some student has been forced to change the hair.
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Speaker 1: The hair was cut during a wrestling match or sporting event.
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Speaker 1: Just cut their hair because it was natural and they
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Speaker 1: perceived that it would be a disadvantage for you to
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Speaker 1: go out there with natural hair. It would get in
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Speaker 1: the way. Now, with all that being said two thousand
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Speaker 1: and eight, which were thirteen years ago, it was uglier
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Speaker 1: back then. How did you break through the noise? You know,
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Speaker 1: I say, it's each individual. So when I would post
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Speaker 1: every single day Monday through Friday, three times a day
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Speaker 1: on curly Nick, I was reaching obviously millions of people.
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Speaker 1: But whenever I'm writing those articles, it's like I'm reaching
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Speaker 1: that one person that's on the other side of the screen,
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Speaker 1: and I know that she is going to be touched.
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Speaker 1: And then she's gonna take it to her real life network,
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Speaker 1: is gonna see it, and they're gonna be intrigued and
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Speaker 1: they're gonna do it. And that was what happened between
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Speaker 1: two Valcandate and like twenty twenty, like everything changed and
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Speaker 1: it caught on like wildflower, like wildfire, because people can
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Speaker 1: see she's self confident, and it's not just because her
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Speaker 1: hair looks good, like something has shifted in her from
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Speaker 1: the inside out. And hair leads you into that journey.
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Speaker 1: It guides you into that journey, but it's just the
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Speaker 1: beginning of that journey. And the outside world, the people
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Speaker 1: closest into you, they see that change and they're like,
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Speaker 1: to spread out. And so with your confident in yourself,
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Speaker 1: I've seen so many pictures. Are you trapped? You know?
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Speaker 1: And it was always a journey of like trying to
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Speaker 1: find yourself in my you know, because I tell everybody
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Speaker 1: you know, in twenty sixteen, when I stopped manager Steve Harvey,
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Speaker 1: going to be temporary, because confusion is gonna set in
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Speaker 1: so I could tell in about thirteen after meeting you,
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Speaker 1: I had hit the bestseller's list with my book with
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Speaker 1: you know, hanging out with you out of it, really
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Speaker 1: once since I was a kid my parents that I
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Speaker 1: and they had no answers for me. And so I
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Speaker 1: thousand eighteen from all the different world religions. Traveled to India,
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Speaker 1: at some point when I was in Jerusalem, I could
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Speaker 1: tell I'm like, no matter where i am, this presence
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Speaker 1: of like come into your body and come into the moment.
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Speaker 1: And it's a different way to exist. It's like being home,
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21:38
Speaker 1: it's like, there's everything is holy. So when I noticed that,
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Speaker 1: it didn't matter where I was or who I was with,
21:44
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's always here. This happiness that's natural peace
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Speaker 1: is always right here where I am. And that was
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Speaker 1: freedom for me. And I started reading more specifically about
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Speaker 1: enlightenment and what that meant to different cultures and two
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Speaker 1: different people in different religions, and it all pointed out
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Speaker 1: to the same thing. There's a light that we all have.
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Speaker 1: Most of us are unaware of it, and so then
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Speaker 1: we seek stuff out here, the shining things out here,
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Speaker 1: to try to replace that. But if you can just
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Speaker 1: find that light within your true purpose and that's and
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Speaker 1: all of that unfolds from that light. But you have
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Speaker 1: to be aware of that light here or you'll be
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Speaker 1: distracted and looking out here in the world. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's really interesting because my gift is seeing people for
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Speaker 1: who they are what they can be. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I've seen you a lot like and we have hung out.
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Speaker 1: I remember sometimes to hanging out in the neighborhood awards
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Speaker 1: or the hood whatever time about life backstage, and but
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Speaker 1: and you know, even in those periods, I saw a
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Speaker 1: talented person, but I didn't see a voice. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's almost like you and this is
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Speaker 1: been some changes in your life, but you're more focused
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Speaker 1: about you. And I tell people it ought to be
23:23
Speaker 1: successful you talk to anybody. A lot of people used
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Speaker 1: were selfish in a bad way, but at some point
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Speaker 1: in your life to be successful, it has to be
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Speaker 1: about you. And if it's never being about you, then
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Speaker 1: guess what Confusion sets in? And also frustration sets in.
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Speaker 1: And I saw a talented, frustrated person. Why isn't this
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Speaker 1: talented frustrated person frustrated anymore? Because I found my message
23:50
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Speaker 1: I was definitely in the light and not in this light.
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Speaker 1: dug deep. Like from the time the last time I
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Speaker 1: saw you, like fourteen until last year, I've been off
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Speaker 1: the map. You know this it's been all about like
24:26
Speaker 1: you said, it's not you can call it selfish, you know,
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Speaker 1: I call it like being selfless. I needed to get
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Speaker 1: the Nikki ego out of the way, you know, the
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Speaker 1: life was heading and what they needed to do. And
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Speaker 1: should do. You know, almost all of my desires and
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Speaker 1: you should do this, and you should do this, you
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Speaker 1: it's the only button I have, one switch, no matter
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Speaker 1: degree of clarity, And now I get you now because
26:47
Speaker 1: I understand there's some because sometimes up, yeah, just be honest.
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Speaker 1: what I'm here to do. And I took that advice
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Speaker 1: so I took that medicine and started just kind of
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Speaker 1: And so I'm radically grateful for the lessons, you know,
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Speaker 1: Curly Nick is all about it? And it's welcome to
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Speaker 1: all people. Yes, welcome to everyone. So in twenty in November,
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Speaker 1: bed at five o'clock in the morning. And I've done
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Speaker 1: that every day since November. I meditate, journal, do my yoga,
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Speaker 1: all before the kids got up calling my name or
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Speaker 1: I had to be Curly Nikki or I needed to
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Speaker 1: be a daughter or sister. It just beat during those
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Speaker 1: two hours. And during that time, like somewhere in the
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Speaker 1: last few months, this idea, this clarity came that you know,
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Speaker 1: I share on Instagram every day, but it's words I write.
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Speaker 1: quiet and spending time with You can call it God,
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30:41
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