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Rushion Interviews Emmy Award-winning Journalist / Executive Producer Shaun Robinson | Founders of Jolie Noire, Christian Singer Keyondra & her sister Celebrity Fashion Designer Kim Lockett · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: planning or living your dream. My next guest is Sean Robinson.
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Speaker 1: She's an Emmy Award winning journalist, television personality, author, producer, philanthropists,
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Speaker 1: and she has a group an Amazing Girls Activities Organist
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Speaker 1: empowerment activist organization. She's a prod graduate of an HBCU
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Speaker 1: Spellman University in Atlanta. Geargia Sean established the Shawn Foundation
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Speaker 1: for Girls with Nurtures and supports underserved and underrepresented girls
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Speaker 1: and young women in the areas of stem health, arts, unity,
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Speaker 1: and neighborhoods. Sean is the executive producer of the very
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Speaker 1: entertaining a seven Deadly Sins series on Lifetime. We'll be
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Speaker 1: discussion her two new films that can currently be seen
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Speaker 1: on Lifetime, Wrath a seven and seven definitely Sinned story,
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Speaker 1: and Greed, a seven deadly Sinned Story. Please work with
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Speaker 1: the money making conversation Masterclass, my differend and good person.
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Speaker 1: It always leads me down the road of happiness. Sean Robinson,
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Speaker 1: how are you? You know these are always really really
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Speaker 1: cool conversations because you know, we've known each other we
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Speaker 1: have to say, twenty years, any plus years, and we've
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Speaker 1: seen yeah, we've seen each other, uh, we shape ourselves.
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Speaker 1: We've seen each other being able to pivot, and we've
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Speaker 1: seen each other get a clear understanding of finding our voice.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I know when I in twenty six,
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Speaker 1: when I stopped managing Steve, it was a struggle for
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Speaker 1: me to find my voice, you know, because I would
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Speaker 1: say two year, two and a half years, I was
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Speaker 1: still managing Steve Harty and not receiving checks because that
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Speaker 1: brand has been so established. And so you you had
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Speaker 1: a similar You established a relationship with an entertainment magazine
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Speaker 1: that was that was a blessing and accuraged because people
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Speaker 1: knew you from that, but then you wanted to get
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Speaker 1: away from that. But now it's part of your resumes.
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Speaker 1: So now the blessing is part of your asset because
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Speaker 1: your brand is now under so many different positive umbrellas.
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Speaker 1: Talk about pivoting and then being able to being able to,
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Speaker 1: you know, work really hard to build a brand, and
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Speaker 1: then redirecting that brand. Shawn. Yeah, you know, I think
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Speaker 1: that when you reach what is considered by many as
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Speaker 1: the pinnacle, and you were staying there and you think
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Speaker 1: that that is all the world is. And so I was.
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Speaker 1: I was at a you know, a successful entertainment show
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Speaker 1: for sixteen years. It was a long time, and it
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Speaker 1: was you know, I found myself after a while, just
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Speaker 1: kind of coasting, you know. I came in when entertainment
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Speaker 1: shows were that they they had a different type of
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Speaker 1: influence than they have today. Like for example, if you know,
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Speaker 1: if Beyonce had a new album out or George Clooney
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Speaker 1: had a new movie out, we were one of the
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Speaker 1: very few stops that they could make to promote their
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Speaker 1: material because this was before social media, before Instagram, Twitter,
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Speaker 1: and now Beyonce sends out a tweet that she's got
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Speaker 1: a new album out and that's all the publicity she needs,
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Speaker 1: and George Clooney, you know, gets on his social media
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Speaker 1: and that's all the publicity they need. So it so
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Speaker 1: it's a lot different today, and there are many, many,
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Speaker 1: many different platforms. So I was very blessed to come
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Speaker 1: to the show that I was on at a time
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Speaker 1: when it held a power position in Hollywood that was
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Speaker 1: different than it is today. So that was and I
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Speaker 1: was a little black girl from Detroit, Michigan, and I
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Speaker 1: was at hot in Hollywood, and it was a really
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Speaker 1: super super big deal and so I did everything. I
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Speaker 1: squeezed everything out of that position that I could possibly squeeze.
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Speaker 1: There was nothing else I could do that would be
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Speaker 1: a challenge for me. Um, so you know, I look
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Speaker 1: at what is now the additional chapter. I don't even
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Speaker 1: say the next chapter. I said, what is the additional chapter?
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Speaker 1: And so you know, I still do my television work
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Speaker 1: on on you know, nine to Day Fiancee and which
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Speaker 1: is a behemoth and right, yeah, and that's a that's
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Speaker 1: a that's a in a hundred and sixty eight countries
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Speaker 1: and territories. So it was very it's huge, but also
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Speaker 1: like what is it what? I wanted to be a
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Speaker 1: content creator? I wanted to be an executive producer. So
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Speaker 1: I started talking to producers people were much smarter than
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Speaker 1: I was, and and said how do I do this?
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Speaker 1: And I started thinking of different types of shows that
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Speaker 1: I could produce. And so the seven Deadly Since series
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Speaker 1: that it was started as a book by author Victoria
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Speaker 1: Christopher Murray was really interesting and so I optioned the
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Speaker 1: entire series, pitched them around town, which at the Lifetime
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Speaker 1: in different places. Lifetime finally said yes, we want to
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Speaker 1: do this, and um, the partner was Bishop td Jake's,
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Speaker 1: which was couldn't get a bigger producing partner in this
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Speaker 1: type of uh, in this type of situation, and so
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Speaker 1: Lust and Envy aired last year. This year it's Wrath
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Speaker 1: and Greed. So um, yes, and so to see my
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Speaker 1: name as an executive producer was was thrilling for me.
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Speaker 1: Will you please slow down? We talked. This ain't no
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Speaker 1: like a five minute interview. We talked. We talked because
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Speaker 1: I've seen every one of them. Okay, there's four so far,
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Speaker 1: Like you said one, that's when you first came on
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Speaker 1: the show talking about it, and we was excited. And
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Speaker 1: this is seven. We said, why are we you? And
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Speaker 1: hopefully we do them all at the same level of
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Speaker 1: you know, promotional push and excitement and the quality of
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Speaker 1: actors and and this time around, you know, you have
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Speaker 1: my boy, Eric Binet, you know, he's in Greed, and
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Speaker 1: then you have Michelle we that's my girl from Destiny's Child.
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Speaker 1: She's in uh, you know, Wrath. Okay, And the reason
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Speaker 1: I bring these two people, these people are known for
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Speaker 1: singing and they and they have major in fact, Michelle
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Speaker 1: will is the star of that particular and is a major.
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Speaker 1: Eric there's a major player. Okay. He if he doesn't
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Speaker 1: do his character right, the show does, the film doesn't work,
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Speaker 1: he sells it. He sells it Oh my goodness, he's
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Speaker 1: very good. And of course the incredible Lisa ray lcor
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Speaker 1: Is in that she played that play. Uh, and and
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Speaker 1: and and so. And I say this because you know
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Speaker 1: when I watched, when I consider your friend Shaw, and
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Speaker 1: I know when I see your name on the screen
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Speaker 1: single card by myself, I just smiled, you know, I
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Speaker 1: smiled because I know there's a lot of hard work.
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Speaker 1: And that's why I don't want anybody to say when
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Speaker 1: she said, well, optioned out the book. And then Bishop T. D.
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Speaker 1: Jakes was the only person that he came into this
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Speaker 1: particular genre. Okay, this didn't happened over nineteen This is years.
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Speaker 1: This was years, and it was it was It was
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Speaker 1: tied to trust, It was trying to faith. It was
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Speaker 1: tied to saying, I know this project, it's gonna somebody's
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Speaker 1: gonna find it, somebody's gonna enjoy, and I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: be frustrated by it because I'm Sean Robinson and I
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Speaker 1: want to win. That's the story. I want to make
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Speaker 1: sure people here very clearly. You have to you have
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Speaker 1: to be ready for a lot of nose, okay, in
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Speaker 1: this business, and you can't get frustrated by the nose.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've pitched so many projects even with this.
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Speaker 1: I optioned these books in two thousand sixteen, and so
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Speaker 1: I mean think this is twenty twenty two, so it's
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Speaker 1: been a minute. Okay, it's been a minute. And along
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Speaker 1: the way, there were many many struggles convincing people that
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Speaker 1: this was going to be a great project. And actually people,
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Speaker 1: you know, they the networks that I pitched it too,
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Speaker 1: They really love the concept. But there was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: can we do it? Kind of I don't know if
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Speaker 1: we could do it, you know, do we want this star?
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Speaker 1: And you know, we thought we had a certain person
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Speaker 1: and we didn't. And then that took a long time,
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Speaker 1: and then the pandemic hit. I mean, there were a
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Speaker 1: lot of challenges, roadblocks, um that could have derailed the
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Speaker 1: project and just not only derailed this project, but made
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Speaker 1: me so you know, weary of this process that I
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Speaker 1: could put upset. Uh maybe this isn't for me. So
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Speaker 1: you know it it takes a lot of tenacity. It
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Speaker 1: takes faith, it takes endurance, it takes per civiliance, perseverance,
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Speaker 1: it takes strategic planning and just not being um, not
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Speaker 1: being deterred. So don't be deterred. You know, if you
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Speaker 1: feel that you have a vision, if you feel this
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Speaker 1: is something that you're passionate about, keep on pushing. Just
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Speaker 1: you have to keep on pushing. I mean, there is
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Speaker 1: another There was another project that I have been literally
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Speaker 1: working on for probably about eight at least eight years,
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Speaker 1: and then you know, got real close, and then it
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Speaker 1: didn't happen. And then somebody just called back, oh, hey,
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Speaker 1: do you still have that project? We might be interested
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Speaker 1: in that. I'm like, okay, you know, yeah, I still
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Speaker 1: have it. Just still got it. So just know that
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Speaker 1: there's certain things that are going to take longer to materialize.
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Speaker 1: You know, this cake may bake in five minutes and
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Speaker 1: this cake may bake in five years. Okay, so it
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Speaker 1: just depends on what the project is. But keep pushing. Now,
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Speaker 1: these two projects that we're talking about, these two films,
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Speaker 1: like you said, Wrath and Greed, let's let's just let's
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Speaker 1: talk about exactly what that seven deadly Seen series is
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Speaker 1: and why it is important because each one came from
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Speaker 1: a different style standpoint. Because because because the Wrath was
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Speaker 1: a straight on acting and then you had voiceover a
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Speaker 1: lot more so in Greed, because it was like telling
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Speaker 1: the story how you can make it was it was.
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Speaker 1: It was a different way presenting it, but it was
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Speaker 1: still world received by me. Talk about that whole presentation
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Speaker 1: and how you pick the writers and the directors and
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Speaker 1: all that for each one of these different projects. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and at the center the seven deadly sins that people
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Speaker 1: know um our morality tales. Okay, you know the wages
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Speaker 1: of sin is death, but there is redemption and so
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Speaker 1: these are stories of there there's going to be redemption
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Speaker 1: in our films. So um so that's where we're starting with.
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Speaker 1: You know, we are um, you know, we are presenting
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Speaker 1: these to our faith based audience. Um and if you
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Speaker 1: are not faith based, you might be after you wat movies.
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Speaker 1: So um so that was a really important and you
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Speaker 1: know each story is going to be told a little differently.
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Speaker 1: Then is going to be told a little differently, but
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Speaker 1: at the he at the basis to all of them,
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Speaker 1: there is um there that these are morality tales and
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Speaker 1: these are faith based stories. So that's what you have
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Speaker 1: to be prepared for. But they're fun, rise their sexy,
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Speaker 1: it's thrilling, um it is you know, you never know
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen next. You think you go, Okay,
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Speaker 1: this this, I bet it, this happens, and then something
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Speaker 1: totally different happens. And you know, I got a call
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Speaker 1: Michelle Williams. You know there's a couple of seeds. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna have to call in teaser because she's like my
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Speaker 1: little little lovettle you the right, you know, I said, oh,
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Speaker 1: you got trade sexy up and there, and then she
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Speaker 1: got straight sexy in it. She did. It was fun.
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Speaker 1: I was. It was fun watching it. But I want
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Speaker 1: to just say this, when you when you get the
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Speaker 1: word faith based, people tend to run. Oh I want
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Speaker 1: preaching to meet No. Yes, she's absolutely correct, but it's
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Speaker 1: written so organically. Did when I hear them delivering that
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Speaker 1: statement of that message of what wrath is all about,
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Speaker 1: the point of view of why we're doing this particular film,
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Speaker 1: the message underlying message we're trying to do, I have
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Speaker 1: not taken aback. It's really that well done. I can't
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Speaker 1: forget Romeo Miller's in here, and I'm talking about the
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Speaker 1: one with with with Michelle Williams. Of course, Uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: Beyonce's mom is in that. Tina knows Lawson, who I
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Speaker 1: know from my days in Houston, Texas. I go way
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Speaker 1: back with her, way back, and I've been knowing her
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Speaker 1: since ninety two because I brought because I had a
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Speaker 1: comedy club called Hip Hop Comedy Stop, and I brought
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Speaker 1: Destiny Child on stage. That's how far back I go.
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Speaker 1: Of course, way back then. Michelle Williams was some part
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Speaker 1: of the group. I met Michelle later when she joined
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Speaker 1: the group, But I've been knowing Destiny Child all the
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Speaker 1: way back to two, so that my relationship. Yeah, just
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Speaker 1: just seeing that whole Just seeing Tina, I just laughed
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Speaker 1: and smiled at myself because she had a really big
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Speaker 1: beauty so long. That's how I met her in Houston
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Speaker 1: at the time, and she was making a lot of money.
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Speaker 1: She was very popular, I believe the name of his
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Speaker 1: headliners in Houston, Texas at the time. And just see
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Speaker 1: how you can again pivot and then readjust your career
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Speaker 1: and move forward. And but each one of these are different.
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Speaker 1: How does the casting process happen and do you participate
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Speaker 1: in the casting process? Sean Oh absolutely, as uh one
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Speaker 1: of the executive producers. I definitely participate in the casting process.
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Speaker 1: So you know, we think about, you know, who the
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Speaker 1: character is and who you know, who are a list
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Speaker 1: of people who would be good playing them. But also
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Speaker 1: you've got to think about their relationship with the other characters.
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Speaker 1: So when we you know, when we knew we had Michelle,
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Speaker 1: we were so excited, and you know, we were thinking, Okay,
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Speaker 1: who would be a good mother figure to her? Because
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Speaker 1: the mother is very important in her life. Oh can
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Speaker 1: we get her? You know, So then that process started,
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Speaker 1: so uh and then then you do you want good
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Speaker 1: chemistry between the leading lady and the men in her life.
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Speaker 1: And so you know, Romeo was just absolutely fantastic. They
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Speaker 1: had great chemistry. And Antonio Coupo also with Michelle, they
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Speaker 1: were just they were just handing it up on set.
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Speaker 1: It was really funny. So um, and so yes, you
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Speaker 1: have to think about the character's relationship to other characters
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Speaker 1: in the movie and how that would play. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: we think we get did a good job. We have
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Speaker 1: a really great cast both on Wrath and on Greed.
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass
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Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations
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Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. I didn't share your name, and
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Speaker 1: she used the lead in the in g that's Monique Cole,
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Speaker 1: that's my girl. I cannot go past this and not
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Speaker 1: act like I didn't see her in this film, you know,
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Speaker 1: laid it down because Greed slapped her in the face
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Speaker 1: several times. She found the facts of life. We just
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Speaker 1: don't just laying it out there and that. But it
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Speaker 1: was all again organic, It was all very realistic. It
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Speaker 1: was all the characters I found relatable. A boar friend
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Speaker 1: and how she kind of disconnected from him because he
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Speaker 1: wasn't living a lifestyle and everything. They this kind of
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Speaker 1: nighting sign and armor who had everything. He was older,
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Speaker 1: he was worldly, he could jump on a private jet
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Speaker 1: and go to anyway he wanted to go. And he
16:41
Speaker 1: found this young lady who wanted these things. And that's
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Speaker 1: what this serious is about. You know. It's like, you know,
16:47
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things. Be careful what you wished for,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's not always what you inspect. That was
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Speaker 1: That's what makes this that's I saw both movies back
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Speaker 1: to back, and I didn't see him being similar at
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Speaker 1: all all. Bravo, Bravo excellent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're very different,
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Speaker 1: very different. But at the key, like I said, it's
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Speaker 1: that um you know what happens when you commit one
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Speaker 1: of these sins. This is what can happen. So hopefully
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Speaker 1: people will think twice. You know, um, somebody said, uh,
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Speaker 1: somebody asked me, well, so what's up? What's the message
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Speaker 1: and greed? And what's the message in Wrath? I said,
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Speaker 1: don't be greedy, don't have wrath. That's about That's the
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Speaker 1: bottom line, right, and then ignore the signs of when
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Speaker 1: is happening to you? And that's that's that's what it
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Speaker 1: really amounts to as well, because we all deal with
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Speaker 1: these decisions that we have to make, and we, like
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Speaker 1: I said, the morality is the base of what we
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Speaker 1: all make our decisions. When you venture into these different sins,
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Speaker 1: then it tells you or is it? Are you being
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Speaker 1: consumed by it? And each movie you will see in
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Speaker 1: Wrath an individual is consumed by that rap and how
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Speaker 1: that wrap affects other people around that person when is consumed.
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Speaker 1: When that person is consumed by that greed, you'll see
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Speaker 1: how that greed not just impacts them, but the people
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Speaker 1: they quote unquote care about and the people that they
18:17
Speaker 1: call their friends and business associates. That's what I loved
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Speaker 1: about these episodes. Their own lifetime right now. Please please
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Speaker 1: watch them with your friends, your family, you know, take
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Speaker 1: a screenshot, tell us somebody and posted on social media.
18:29
Speaker 1: Let them know you're watching it so they can get
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Speaker 1: a good feel for quality program and being done by
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Speaker 1: incredible or of African Americans. Producers, my man Mr t
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Speaker 1: d J. And my favorite person in the world, Sean Robinson.
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Speaker 1: But the thing I always love a boy Sean is
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Speaker 1: that it always goes beyond what she does as an entertainer.
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Speaker 1: Impactful your program, Sean, you know that we're talking about
18:54
Speaker 1: this several years. Tell us what's going on with it
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Speaker 1: and and the impact that you're making. And I've granted
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Speaker 1: to New York One day at the London Hotel, were
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Speaker 1: talking about it, so I know how long this has
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Speaker 1: been going on and how you would travel to Great
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Speaker 1: Lens to get the word out about it. Yeah. So
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Speaker 1: my foundation is called the Sean Foundation for Girls. I
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Speaker 1: created it back in two thousands sixteen after I left
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Speaker 1: Access Hollywood for so long. And you know, my my
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Speaker 1: parents always taught me, if God gives you a platform
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Speaker 1: music to get back and so that's what I did.
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Speaker 1: I created this foundation and what we do is we
19:29
Speaker 1: support uh small nonprofits that are doing work in five
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Speaker 1: key areas of girls issues, and those areas are represented
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Speaker 1: by the acronym of my name s j U N
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Speaker 1: SO s A STEM science, technology, engineering and math, ages,
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Speaker 1: health as arts, you is unity and in his neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: So if there is a nonprofit that is doing work
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Speaker 1: in one of those five key areas, we would possibly
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Speaker 1: goose for them. So and Sean what I hope to
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Speaker 1: my vision and what I hope to continue to grow
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Speaker 1: the Sean Foundation for Girls as it's really a go
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Speaker 1: to resource for these small nonprofits that you know, getting
20:12
Speaker 1: raising money is tough for any You've been in many
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Speaker 1: charity events and they got a big folk to give
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Speaker 1: the money. So it's hard. And when you are a
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Speaker 1: small nonprofit, a small charity, it's even harder because a
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Speaker 1: lot of times you don't have the resources. And so
20:28
Speaker 1: I felt compelled to help those organizations that are working
20:32
Speaker 1: directly with girls, predominantly girls of color, underserved in underrepresented girls,
20:38
Speaker 1: and to help them in their mission. And you know, uh,
20:42
Speaker 1: I was just at this philanthropy conference and it was
20:46
Speaker 1: it was with women who were philanthropists like myself. And
20:52
Speaker 1: one of the things that we had talked about and
20:55
Speaker 1: you probably know this is very important for Sean because
20:59
Speaker 1: you run into business. You know how many how all
21:03
Speaker 1: the line items there are to running a business, and
21:06
Speaker 1: so a lot of times when people give to charity,
21:09
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, when people give grants
21:12
Speaker 1: to charities, small nonprofits, they're like, Okay, we want our
21:16
Speaker 1: money to go to this, this and this. Okay, we
21:20
Speaker 1: wanted to go just to this mission, just to that.
21:25
Speaker 1: And so let's say you have, um, you know, let's
21:30
Speaker 1: say you have a homeless shelter. Let's say you have
21:34
Speaker 1: a shelter for homeless and so somebody might give you
21:37
Speaker 1: money and say, okay, I want this just to go
21:41
Speaker 1: for clothing for the women in the homeless shelter. That's
21:45
Speaker 1: just an example. Well that's great, But here's what happens
21:49
Speaker 1: with Sean, is that what are the other what are
21:55
Speaker 1: the other line volumes that you need when you're running
21:58
Speaker 1: a business and the nonprofit is a business. You've got
22:02
Speaker 1: to keep the lights on, Okay, you have to have
22:05
Speaker 1: food for the people that um, you know that you serve,
22:11
Speaker 1: you know, the secretary, the cleaning people to come and
22:17
Speaker 1: clean your business. You've got the telephone bill, all of
22:20
Speaker 1: those are line items, and it's hard to get money
22:24
Speaker 1: for that because a lot of people they when they
22:27
Speaker 1: give the money, they say, I just wanted I just
22:28
Speaker 1: wanted to go to this one thing. So what we
22:32
Speaker 1: were talking about at this philanthropy conference, so we just
22:34
Speaker 1: had just so many great, great women talking about it.
22:38
Speaker 1: It's the importance of giving unrestricted funds to nonprofits. Unrestricted
22:45
Speaker 1: means they can use them in any areas. Now we're
22:48
Speaker 1: not and granted, there has to be there has to
22:50
Speaker 1: be checks and balances in the nonprofit world because you know,
22:53
Speaker 1: you don't you want to make sure that the nonprofit
22:56
Speaker 1: you're doing, you vet them. And that's what we do.
22:58
Speaker 1: That's what the Sean Foundation for grows us. We we
23:01
Speaker 1: we we vet these organizations. We make sure they're doing
23:04
Speaker 1: the work. We'll make sure we are making sure they're
23:07
Speaker 1: impactful and they're they're impacting girls lives, uh for you know,
23:13
Speaker 1: for the positive. And then we say, okay, so we
23:17
Speaker 1: want to help you with your mission, so we're giving
23:19
Speaker 1: you these funds so that you can continue your mission.
23:24
Speaker 1: And I used to say, okay, you got to use
23:26
Speaker 1: it in this area, and then I realized, like many
23:30
Speaker 1: people are realizing in what's called trust based philanthropy, Okay,
23:36
Speaker 1: we trust you. Okay, I'm gonna trust you to use
23:40
Speaker 1: this money in the best way possible so you can
23:43
Speaker 1: continue helping the people, helping the girls and young women
23:47
Speaker 1: that you serve. So that was that, that was that
23:51
Speaker 1: was my growth as a philanthropist and how I want
23:55
Speaker 1: to make sure that my foundation helps as many organizations
23:59
Speaker 1: and as many people as possible. Well, that's the sort
24:02
Speaker 1: of an example of that. Like Mackenzie Scott, she gave
24:05
Speaker 1: four or four point one billion dollars to HBCUs with
24:09
Speaker 1: no restrictions. That's what she's talking about, exactly. You know,
24:12
Speaker 1: she trust one trusted them. She said, hey, here's the money.
24:16
Speaker 1: Here's fifty million dollars pery of you and m do
24:19
Speaker 1: what you need to better serve your community, the students,
24:23
Speaker 1: the infrastructure and put it and we trust that you're
24:26
Speaker 1: gonna do the right thing with this money. Exactly. She
24:30
Speaker 1: could have said, here's fifty million dollars and it's got
24:33
Speaker 1: to go to scholarships, you know, it's got to go
24:36
Speaker 1: to scholarships for fifty people whatever. You know, he said,
24:40
Speaker 1: I trust you because I vetted you already and I
24:43
Speaker 1: know that you're doing the work, so I trust you
24:46
Speaker 1: to take this and do what you need to do
24:49
Speaker 1: to continue that mission. And that's exactly what she's saying.
24:51
Speaker 1: I just wanted to give clarity exactly with that. You know,
24:54
Speaker 1: I just mentioned word HBCUs. You know you're you're graduate
24:57
Speaker 1: one of the great ones, and schools in this kind
25:00
Speaker 1: try to deliver black excellence on the regular basis. Spellman
25:03
Speaker 1: I always like, you know, I know Spellman College, you know,
25:07
Speaker 1: and uh, there's only with Benedict College. There's only two
25:11
Speaker 1: all female HBCUs. Right, Benedict College. I believe in spell
25:14
Speaker 1: You know I shouldn't know that, but I think I
25:17
Speaker 1: think right. You know, Wow, I'm used to know it all.
25:20
Speaker 1: I'm used to know it all. You know, I'm gonna
25:22
Speaker 1: just throw out information that I claim to be correct.
25:26
Speaker 1: The beauty of going to that school. Can you just
25:28
Speaker 1: tell my listeners and my viewers, you know, Spellman College
25:32
Speaker 1: really taught me the value of sisterhood and that when
25:36
Speaker 1: you invest in a girl, she can change the world.
25:39
Speaker 1: And also, like, you know, I graduated a long time ago,
25:44
Speaker 1: and I can meet a Spellman sister today and still
25:49
Speaker 1: have a connection. And that's what the value of going
25:54
Speaker 1: to that school has has really shown me. It's about
25:59
Speaker 1: you will always have a connection I I you know,
26:02
Speaker 1: see people, uh women will say I'm your Spellman sister, sister,
26:07
Speaker 1: and it's just I mean we didn't go to school
26:09
Speaker 1: at the same time or anything, but it's just a
26:11
Speaker 1: connection that we have because we love our school and
26:14
Speaker 1: we knew that our school taught us that you will
26:18
Speaker 1: have a connection to each woman that walks out of
26:23
Speaker 1: these doors after having this experience. So that's yeah. I
26:27
Speaker 1: do anything I can to promote Spellman, and she does
26:30
Speaker 1: a great job promoting her too, incredibly a series overall,
26:35
Speaker 1: She's already done two, one, three or four. That's Wrathing
26:39
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26:43
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26:45
Speaker 1: by my friend uh Sean Robinson. Please thank you for
26:48
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26:51
Speaker 1: and keep moving ahead and keep delivering black excellence because
26:54
Speaker 1: you've been doing it and I can say it. You
26:56
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27:31
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27:36
Speaker 1: She's been booked and busy working on two movies, Tyler
27:38
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27:43
Speaker 1: I guess it looks easy, but it's not easy for me,
27:47
Speaker 1: and I just don't I just really, I just really
27:52
Speaker 1: didn't understand. So I was like, it was God who
27:55
Speaker 1: did this for me. I didn't do it for myself.
27:57
Speaker 1: It was a favor that He's placed upon life with
28:01
Speaker 1: the work that I've put in, and that's how he
28:04
Speaker 1: did it for me. Came about that it's no goodness
28:08
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28:17
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28:22
Speaker 1: My next guest, there are sisters. I always talk about
28:25
Speaker 1: gifts and leading with your gifts and purpose. Well, they
28:28
Speaker 1: leave with their gifts and they don't let their friends,
28:30
Speaker 1: family because they are family or co workers stop them
28:33
Speaker 1: from planning or living their dreams. Because they're planning, they're
28:35
Speaker 1: living their dream together. My next guests are Christian songwriter
28:39
Speaker 1: singer and songwriter Billboard numb one chart topping in two
28:42
Speaker 1: times Stellar Award nominee Keandra Lockett and her Atlanta based
28:47
Speaker 1: celebrity fashion stylish sister, Kim Lockett are the founders of
28:50
Speaker 1: a luxury Essential Where brand that recently launched in Target
28:54
Speaker 1: stores nationwide. That's right, nationwide, not in Georgia, not in
28:59
Speaker 1: region nay why. The premium brand name means Pretty Black
29:04
Speaker 1: in French was created in twenty and eighteen to celebrate
29:07
Speaker 1: Black diversity and inclusion while offering stylish, high fashion Essential
29:11
Speaker 1: Where for both women and men. Women and men. That
29:14
Speaker 1: means I am styling my stuff too. It's wearable size
29:17
Speaker 1: includes extra small and size. Excel collection includes tops, bottoms,
29:22
Speaker 1: matching sets and accessories customers designed in the house by
29:26
Speaker 1: the Dynamic Duo. Please work with the money making conversation
29:29
Speaker 1: real life sisters and entrepreneurs. KeAndre and Kim like it.
29:34
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Don't do me like that? Don't
29:38
Speaker 1: y'all do me like that? Hi, because I gotta figure
29:40
Speaker 1: out who I'm talking to? Kei Andrew, let me hear
29:43
Speaker 1: that voice. Oh, Kim can give me another vot. Don't
29:49
Speaker 1: do me like I just because y'all were supposed to
29:51
Speaker 1: be a studio with me. Y'all were supposed to be
29:53
Speaker 1: a studio. So now I gotta figure out who I'm
29:55
Speaker 1: talking to the audio and that is always an campaign
30:00
Speaker 1: for me. But welcome. First of all, you know I
30:02
Speaker 1: did not want to mess up the name of your brand,
30:05
Speaker 1: So please, Kiandra, please tell me the name of your brand. Okay,
30:11
Speaker 1: it's no Jolie. You are Jolie New Area, yep. So, So, Kim,
30:19
Speaker 1: where did that name come from? Uh? So? Kianda and
30:22
Speaker 1: I we are from Louisiana, and okay what part of Louisiana.
30:26
Speaker 1: Now let's just do through Louisiana. Like it's because the
30:28
Speaker 1: North is different from the South, because my parents are
30:31
Speaker 1: born from the North. Yes, that's my parents are from
30:38
Speaker 1: Our parents were born and raised the Streeport. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely,
30:44
Speaker 1: I know it's difference, yes, absolutely so um yeah, So
30:50
Speaker 1: because we are from Louisiana, we want to pull from
30:52
Speaker 1: the French culture of Louisiana, UM, just a little part
30:55
Speaker 1: of us. We wanted a name that meant something to us,
30:58
Speaker 1: um and could carry and that could be marketable as well.
31:03
Speaker 1: And so we rested on Joey Law because so many
31:05
Speaker 1: black women, um do not have a space to let
31:09
Speaker 1: our hair down, if you will. Because we initially designed
31:12
Speaker 1: for black women, um, and then we uh here recently
31:15
Speaker 1: last year created a space in our closet, hypothetical closet
31:18
Speaker 1: for men. So that is how men became a part
31:22
Speaker 1: because also pretty black. We know that, um, not only
31:26
Speaker 1: black women fight with image insecurity, but black men as well.
31:32
Speaker 1: We've learned that along our journey. So yeah, we are
31:35
Speaker 1: doing this. They say for the culture. Well, you know
31:38
Speaker 1: it's so important because like as a man, you know,
31:40
Speaker 1: because I I'm known for wearing suits and ties and
31:43
Speaker 1: being suited in Buddhists if you would see me in
31:45
Speaker 1: blue jeans or casually all like almost faint. So so
31:52
Speaker 1: it's important that beca that that you know, I love
31:55
Speaker 1: to dress comfortable. I got my my little Jordan's shoes
31:58
Speaker 1: that match with could I matched though. I'm a matching person.
32:00
Speaker 1: Now when I'm castling, I match up, you know everything.
32:04
Speaker 1: I'm very neat and so so so when you went
32:07
Speaker 1: to to to the because I got the factor on
32:09
Speaker 1: the female side, understanding that that need that where but
32:13
Speaker 1: on the male side, what was your research and launching
32:16
Speaker 1: a mail line? So we actually um hold some of
32:22
Speaker 1: our closest male friends and they were like, yeah, I
32:25
Speaker 1: would totally wear this. I would wear you know, something
32:28
Speaker 1: with a woman on it. Um. And we also already
32:30
Speaker 1: had some huge male followings who was already supporting the brand.
32:34
Speaker 1: So we still look at pieces that were moving by men.
32:38
Speaker 1: And that is how we created our section of our
32:42
Speaker 1: website to see unisex um what was already appealing to men. Right, So, Kim,
32:47
Speaker 1: you all these celebrity fashion styles. Okay, you got the
32:51
Speaker 1: celebrity singer over there. You know she's she coming into
32:53
Speaker 1: your lane? Now she coming over here? When I did
32:56
Speaker 1: you know you weren't over there. You were over there
32:58
Speaker 1: trying to sing back up in her group. You know
33:00
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, you know what I'm saying.
33:02
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just telling the truth. Fan she coming
33:04
Speaker 1: over here. So how did you feel sharing that space
33:08
Speaker 1: with your equally talented sister? But she was talented in
33:12
Speaker 1: another line? Yeah, I wouldn't actually have it any other way.
33:17
Speaker 1: You know, it's their power numbers. We both believe that.
33:21
Speaker 1: And uh with the design, you know, that's all. There's
33:24
Speaker 1: always someone to bounce ideas off of and also to
33:28
Speaker 1: get ideas from. So we both gleaned from each other
33:32
Speaker 1: um with it, so it just only flowed naturally for us.
33:37
Speaker 1: Well that that's really key because when I went, like
33:40
Speaker 1: I said, when you when you have a brand, it
33:42
Speaker 1: all starts with an idea. Now, Kiandra, you you know
33:46
Speaker 1: when you started your singing career as a team. You
33:48
Speaker 1: started with a group. If I'm not mistaken, you started
33:50
Speaker 1: with a group, and then so and then you became
33:53
Speaker 1: a solo artist. Just just understanding, now you're working in
33:57
Speaker 1: conjunction with your sister. I know that's totally different. Just
34:00
Speaker 1: talk to my listeners and tell them that how how
34:03
Speaker 1: that how that has helped this relationship here, being able
34:07
Speaker 1: to share thoughts, working as a team with a focus
34:10
Speaker 1: goal based on your relationship with your singing group that
34:14
Speaker 1: you are when you started your career, can you talk
34:16
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? Well, um actually um, building and growing
34:21
Speaker 1: with the group. UM, of course that would you know,
34:25
Speaker 1: kind of help um, you know, as it relates to
34:28
Speaker 1: understanding people and knowing how to work with people. But
34:31
Speaker 1: of course, being my main Kim, have you know, been
34:34
Speaker 1: sisters all of our lives, it's kind of easy to
34:37
Speaker 1: you know, work with her. Um still even if there
34:41
Speaker 1: wasn't um, like the start with the group, you know,
34:46
Speaker 1: and so um she's also worked with me with the
34:49
Speaker 1: group for several years. She styled the group and then
34:53
Speaker 1: um uh did she did some background singing for I
35:03
Speaker 1: hate it, but by word yes, uh huh. But it's
35:09
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy working, you know with her. I'm used
35:12
Speaker 1: to working with her. UM. Yeah. I just I think
35:16
Speaker 1: it's you know, because we're sisters too, so well being sisters, Kim,
35:20
Speaker 1: you know that all you ever wanted support. I come
35:23
Speaker 1: from a large family, succesters, two brothers. Sometimes that was
35:27
Speaker 1: too much support, you know, and also not as much
35:29
Speaker 1: food okay, when you wanted to go back for seconds
35:31
Speaker 1: and was always what you thought should be left, just left.
35:36
Speaker 1: But I know that, you know, the the ability to
35:39
Speaker 1: share success with families always special. And the fact that
35:44
Speaker 1: you guys are now sharing success you know under that
35:48
Speaker 1: locked brand. Talk to us about that. Yeah, So it
35:54
Speaker 1: just goes back to us being you know, this is
35:56
Speaker 1: actually who we are. I guess you could say our parents.
36:00
Speaker 1: Our dad rather was in the military, so we moved
36:02
Speaker 1: around a lot, um, and so it's just been Keiana
36:05
Speaker 1: and I. So to share in our successes. We've shared
36:08
Speaker 1: in everything else, so why not share in our successes.
36:12
Speaker 1: And we've always you know, kind of championed each other
36:14
Speaker 1: on and cheered each other on, um in each of
36:17
Speaker 1: our individual endeavors. So um to share that. Once I
36:21
Speaker 1: had a teacher, UM, because I got my master's degree
36:24
Speaker 1: here in Atlanta. That's what actually brought up here. I UM.
36:28
Speaker 1: One of my teachers said, don't share the same passion
36:31
Speaker 1: as one of your siblings because it would never work
36:33
Speaker 1: because we'll be jealous of the other. But um, one
36:37
Speaker 1: thing that I was like when he said that, I
36:40
Speaker 1: was like, well, that's not really true, because my sister
36:43
Speaker 1: and I have always overlapped in each other's e lanes,
36:46
Speaker 1: if you will. We've always given input to each other's processes,
36:51
Speaker 1: and um, you know, we've always been a part of
36:53
Speaker 1: each other's process is almost to the point that we
36:56
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to imagine us without without the each other. Um,
37:01
Speaker 1: almost like we're twins. UM. So I you know, could
37:05
Speaker 1: not get grasp that, you know, that did not process
37:08
Speaker 1: what was me? Said what was me? So? Yeah, the
37:11
Speaker 1: successes that we have had, um, we share them almost equally.
37:17
Speaker 1: You know. It's really interesting. You know, I've always people
37:21
Speaker 1: have told me what I could do and could not do,
37:24
Speaker 1: and always when they told me what I could do
37:26
Speaker 1: was always lesser than what I thought I could do.
37:29
Speaker 1: I remember when I was throughing out early in my career,
37:31
Speaker 1: I was doing stand up comedy on the regular basis,
37:34
Speaker 1: and I remember I walked off stage and it's a
37:36
Speaker 1: co called comedy Workshop, White Club, Owner, White audience, and
37:40
Speaker 1: I was to a standing ovation and this guy and
37:42
Speaker 1: the owner went, you know something, if you could you know,
37:44
Speaker 1: you got a little accent with Sean, If you just
37:46
Speaker 1: clean up that accent, you could be a lot funnier.
37:48
Speaker 1: I go, but they was a standing ovation, you know,
37:52
Speaker 1: so people can stereotype you with statements and then they
37:55
Speaker 1: can question whether or not you have the ability to achieve.
37:59
Speaker 1: And so when they when the teacher said that, that
38:02
Speaker 1: could have been an acid peel in your relationship because
38:05
Speaker 1: you could have questioned the desire to have that relationship.
38:09
Speaker 1: But love and a clear understanding of who you two
38:12
Speaker 1: are superseded that madness. And I think faith pays a
38:15
Speaker 1: major role in that. Correct. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. We were
38:20
Speaker 1: raised to be safe based and um we carried and
38:24
Speaker 1: we've carried that on into our adult lives. We can't
38:27
Speaker 1: do anything without the Lord. Actually, Joli noir would not
38:29
Speaker 1: be without the Lord. Praise the Lord. Come on that.
38:37
Speaker 1: We're gonna take some phone calls. We're gonna be praising
38:39
Speaker 1: all the way for another half hour. Got them ladies
38:41
Speaker 1: and gentleman. I got the locket system ship one kind
38:44
Speaker 1: of consaint. She did background. She won't confess. Lord, we
38:48
Speaker 1: know consing. I don't know who I'm talking to. I
38:51
Speaker 1: just say their name. They respond to me. That way
38:54
Speaker 1: we win. We're gonna take this short break me back
38:59
Speaker 1: with the fantastic they closed and target everybody. Target. We're
39:03
Speaker 1: gonna make it happen. I love positive energy. I love
39:06
Speaker 1: people who understand that this show is about uplift. This
39:09
Speaker 1: show about motivating people to be successful, allowing them to
39:12
Speaker 1: tell their story in a in a manner where they
39:15
Speaker 1: feel comfortable and they feel is relatable. But the information
39:18
Speaker 1: that they delivered to the listeners also, I hope inspires them.
39:21
Speaker 1: I hope and they inspires and encourages them. When I
39:23
Speaker 1: say that, k Android, and I say that to you, Kim.
39:26
Speaker 1: The inspiration we're trying to get out of this interview
39:28
Speaker 1: to everyday people is what what message I'm gonna start
39:31
Speaker 1: with you, Kim? What what? What's the overall message would
39:33
Speaker 1: you want people to take from you when they hear
39:36
Speaker 1: us discuss the success of your brand, the success of
39:39
Speaker 1: your career so far. Yeah, so that black people can
39:45
Speaker 1: succeed in persevere through anything, as we all know that.
39:48
Speaker 1: But we are two girls. Um, so we went to
39:51
Speaker 1: college like we have not. We had entrepreneur experience in
39:55
Speaker 1: the past, but this is not our path. We didn't
39:58
Speaker 1: go to school for business. Um. We actually have very
40:00
Speaker 1: different career path for our personal careers. But yeah, you
40:06
Speaker 1: can actually succeed in as black women. Um, you definitely
40:10
Speaker 1: can be all odds. You don't have to consider the odds. Um,
40:14
Speaker 1: even as you are going through life, you just continue
40:17
Speaker 1: to work in your own lane and continue to move
40:20
Speaker 1: forward and with the Lord. That's that's the basis that
40:23
Speaker 1: we always have to come from. You can do anything
40:27
Speaker 1: the Bible best that we can achieve all things to price. So, um,
40:30
Speaker 1: that's absolutely truth. Yeah. Um, Actually I'm gonna go back
40:35
Speaker 1: to the whole faith conversation. UM. I think that a
40:40
Speaker 1: lot of times, as especially millennial entrepreneurs or just millennial
40:47
Speaker 1: UH based people, we always figure that, you know, we
40:51
Speaker 1: we do the work like you know, I I hit
40:54
Speaker 1: up and we have this whole thing like you know,
40:56
Speaker 1: the hostel culture. Um. We we think we get up
41:00
Speaker 1: in the morning and you know, we we say our
41:03
Speaker 1: little mantra or a little affirmations and life is gonna be,
41:08
Speaker 1: you know what it needs to be. Our career, all
41:10
Speaker 1: of that will be what it needs to be. But
41:12
Speaker 1: it is really God's timing, his season, his hand on
41:17
Speaker 1: your life and your career. If that we couldn't have
41:21
Speaker 1: manifested this if you will as best as He planned
41:25
Speaker 1: this for us. And so um, so I've always felt
41:30
Speaker 1: this anxiety. Um, you know, like I'm not in the
41:33
Speaker 1: place and I'm supposed to be in or I'm not
41:35
Speaker 1: doing exactly what it is that I planned to what
41:38
Speaker 1: I see my other peers doing. And the whole time,
41:41
Speaker 1: the Lord has been like, that's not for you. And
41:44
Speaker 1: the timing and their season their place, that's not for you.
41:47
Speaker 1: But if if you live to be let's say fifty five,
41:53
Speaker 1: and you do, you start doing and building and creating
41:57
Speaker 1: at age fifty, that is the time that I designed
42:00
Speaker 1: for you. And that's the destiny and and and the
42:02
Speaker 1: season that will be fulfilled for you. That's what I
42:05
Speaker 1: created for you, and that's what you're going to do.
42:08
Speaker 1: You can't create it yourself as best as God can.
42:11
Speaker 1: Jesus was on on this earth for thirty three years
42:14
Speaker 1: and didn't start his ministry until a couple of years
42:17
Speaker 1: before his death, you know, And so it's the same
42:20
Speaker 1: thing with us. You can't. You can't create and and
42:24
Speaker 1: make a life best for yourself better than God can.
42:27
Speaker 1: You know. That's what I want people to walk away with. Well,
42:30
Speaker 1: I understand that. I believe that, and I take that
42:33
Speaker 1: blessing because of the fact that you know, you know,
42:37
Speaker 1: I'm not a person that acknowledges my face publicly all
42:40
Speaker 1: the time. In fact, it took me a while to
42:41
Speaker 1: even accept the responsibility of of who I am and
42:45
Speaker 1: why why do I exist? What? What? What? What binds
42:48
Speaker 1: me to success? You know it's it. You know it's
42:51
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time. I'm I'm lucky.
42:54
Speaker 1: It is my faith. It gets me up. The law
42:57
Speaker 1: clock doesn't get me up. What motivates me to be successful?
43:01
Speaker 1: When the mote invates me to encourage the blessings that
43:04
Speaker 1: I have received on to other people. Who drives me
43:07
Speaker 1: to come here every Tuesday to speak to individuals on
43:10
Speaker 1: a live radio show when I could just play a
43:13
Speaker 1: radio just play a recorded version of my show because
43:16
Speaker 1: I want to make a difference and I want to
43:18
Speaker 1: I want to change lives. And when I listen to
43:20
Speaker 1: what you just said, what Kim just said, I love
43:22
Speaker 1: it because we have two individuals who are driven by
43:25
Speaker 1: the same passion to be successful, but they speak in
43:28
Speaker 1: talking uniquely different, but they come together as a team
43:32
Speaker 1: under faith, guided by mission. That YouTube can be them.
43:38
Speaker 1: YouTube can have a product and talk. Okay, not only
43:40
Speaker 1: a product can target, but the product can target that
43:43
Speaker 1: sales that you know come I go say that one
43:47
Speaker 1: more time. Ladies say see you see the beauty of that.
43:52
Speaker 1: We've got a caller to him. Gonna go to the
43:54
Speaker 1: call in a minute. Because the beauty of you Andre,
43:57
Speaker 1: you know, you have that energy of you know, hearing
43:59
Speaker 1: your song on the radio. I know you when you
44:01
Speaker 1: first heard oh my god. Okay, now, so tell me
44:07
Speaker 1: kim in Kiandra, when you walked into Target and saw
44:11
Speaker 1: your product, tell us that reaction. You know, it was
44:15
Speaker 1: like nothing that I've ever experienced, because this is Kim
44:19
Speaker 1: So as you mentioned, Kiandre has had that experience of
44:22
Speaker 1: having a project, her baby, you know, consumed by the masses.
44:27
Speaker 1: But I, um, I was so nervous leading up to
44:31
Speaker 1: January because I was like, Lord, I don't know if
44:35
Speaker 1: they're going to love these designs as much as the
44:37
Speaker 1: people who already support us love them. You know, they's
44:41
Speaker 1: up to so many more people in opinions and you know,
44:45
Speaker 1: things like that. So it's like, oh my goodness, it's
44:48
Speaker 1: go time, you know. And so um when I walked
44:52
Speaker 1: into the Target that because first of all, we had
44:55
Speaker 1: to go to several targets because the news spirals out
44:58
Speaker 1: of control in a really good way. But to the
45:01
Speaker 1: point that we could not find UM within the Atlanta
45:05
Speaker 1: area like with it, like we went to like five
45:07
Speaker 1: stores looking for the product um we in some most
45:11
Speaker 1: stores we probably saw two or three pieces and what
45:14
Speaker 1: I was looking for with the entire collection at one
45:17
Speaker 1: time at least one piece of UH just to see
45:22
Speaker 1: how it looks. That was an overwhelming and exciting feeling
45:26
Speaker 1: because those people grabbed that stuff off of the shelves
45:30
Speaker 1: and actually one of the pieces because we gave them
45:33
Speaker 1: um Our best sellers UM and then we revamped them
45:37
Speaker 1: for them, so like some of the colors are different
45:40
Speaker 1: and things like that, but um Our no icon t shirts.
45:45
Speaker 1: We hadn't even tested on our own website to be
45:47
Speaker 1: a bit was good or not, and people loved it.
45:50
Speaker 1: So that was like so rewarding UM more rewarding than
45:55
Speaker 1: graduating like a TA. We'll be right back with more
46:08
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations master Class with Rashan McDonald. Now let's
46:16
Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversations master Class with Rashan McDonald. Well,
46:21
Speaker 1: the people are calling it. Let me get one of
46:23
Speaker 1: my first calls in corn Alta based in Atlanta. How
46:26
Speaker 1: you doing coaita, Hi, rash how are you doing great? Great.
46:31
Speaker 1: You know, I have the wonderful ke, Andre and Kim
46:34
Speaker 1: on the call here. What is your question? Thank you
46:36
Speaker 1: for calling the Money Making Conversation master Class. What is
46:39
Speaker 1: your question to them? So I'm very um I feel
46:43
Speaker 1: blessed her your testimony in a sense. And it's funny
46:48
Speaker 1: you should say even if you're fifty five, because I'm
46:50
Speaker 1: fifty five and you know, other things were not for you,
46:55
Speaker 1: that whatever your path is now, this is for you.
46:59
Speaker 1: And I just to appreciate that so much because so
47:01
Speaker 1: many times I've worked for other people and other things
47:05
Speaker 1: and you know, always feeling like, oh, I'm too old
47:08
Speaker 1: to start overall too old to do this and to that,
47:11
Speaker 1: do that. And I just appreciate that so much. Where
47:14
Speaker 1: you saying that? With that being said, did somebody or
47:19
Speaker 1: did you have a mentor you know to help you
47:22
Speaker 1: along the pathway of this because you said you didn't
47:24
Speaker 1: go to school for this. Did someone you know, um
47:27
Speaker 1: help you along to kind of guide you into the
47:31
Speaker 1: retail business? Um? Actually we did a lot of research.
47:37
Speaker 1: Um Our mom uh is basically like a business money head,
47:43
Speaker 1: if if you will. She's very intelligent and very good
47:46
Speaker 1: with money. So we had that UH component or element
47:50
Speaker 1: as well. And then we also had um a business
47:53
Speaker 1: coach for about the first the first year, yeah, first
47:58
Speaker 1: year of our our existence, as Joelie mais, So I
48:03
Speaker 1: think that with those things, um, this is the reason
48:07
Speaker 1: why we are here and showing up every day, um,
48:11
Speaker 1: even when people were not there. You know, at times
48:15
Speaker 1: it almost brings me to tears steel because it's amazing
48:19
Speaker 1: how we are here at this moment. But back then
48:22
Speaker 1: it was like Lord, like when is this home take off?
48:25
Speaker 1: But at times we were on social media selling to ourselves,
48:31
Speaker 1: you know, put in cashes the pages out there to
48:35
Speaker 1: uh two people and you know they weren't they weren't
48:38
Speaker 1: there because it was only like maybe a hundreds and
48:40
Speaker 1: stuff of people who were um, you know, even following us.
48:44
Speaker 1: So uh, it takes a bit of everything, um, to
48:49
Speaker 1: be able to be successful in whatever it is you know,
48:52
Speaker 1: career path that you've chosen. But um, it'll eventually work out.
48:58
Speaker 1: And Keiana and I also owned a business prior to
49:01
Speaker 1: Jolie Lam called The Right Glass and Sisters, So we
49:03
Speaker 1: learned everything not to do from from the glasness. So
49:09
Speaker 1: it does take taking that risk, um, and I do
49:13
Speaker 1: you know, I do suggest that you at least fund
49:16
Speaker 1: a friend group of business owners if you can't afford
49:19
Speaker 1: a mentor, because I know some mentors charge UM. What
49:23
Speaker 1: we also surround ourselves. We have other friends who have businesses.
49:27
Speaker 1: And then of course KeAndre and I being me being
49:29
Speaker 1: a wardrobe silist, that's the business. Keandre's music is another business.
49:33
Speaker 1: So UM. You know, so we've had working knowledge of
49:37
Speaker 1: how to structure a little bit, although clothing is so
49:40
Speaker 1: different than the other businesses that have UM. But yeah,
49:45
Speaker 1: so it is about researching UM a lot. It's a
49:49
Speaker 1: lot of reading. Even now we still do a lot
49:51
Speaker 1: of reading. Did you have to say abbressive? Like what's new? Um?
49:55
Speaker 1: In whatever industry you're in. But the biggest piece of
49:58
Speaker 1: advice is to just get started. If it doesn't work,
50:01
Speaker 1: you're not You're not a failure. It just means that
50:03
Speaker 1: that wasn't the thing or the time for that thing.
50:07
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for calling in on the show.
50:09
Speaker 1: You were fantastic with that question. I appreciate you. You know,
50:13
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm just they just took over
50:15
Speaker 1: my show right there, you know that every they became
50:19
Speaker 1: a master class. I don't even know. I just love
50:21
Speaker 1: people cover so I can't. I can't fight. It's two
50:23
Speaker 1: of them. There's two of them. I can't. I can't
50:27
Speaker 1: even Hans. I don't know, you know, next time, next
50:31
Speaker 1: time it would be I just want to do imna
50:34
Speaker 1: have one in studio so I can see you and
50:36
Speaker 1: the other on the phone because I know I don't
50:40
Speaker 1: can't kill. I know I cannot have on both of
50:43
Speaker 1: y'all just do the same time. No, no, no, no no.
50:46
Speaker 1: But before we go to break, Uh, I want to talk.
50:49
Speaker 1: When y'all saw y'all did y'all did y'all did y'all
50:51
Speaker 1: immediately post the social media? Did y'all do a little
50:55
Speaker 1: fashion walk? And Target? What did y'all do? Um? When
51:01
Speaker 1: we what did we do? But you know, yeah, before
51:05
Speaker 1: we went into Target, we saw a picture that was
51:08
Speaker 1: tweeted UM by someone and they tagged UM. They tagged
51:13
Speaker 1: me and they were like, O m G. I can't believe.
51:16
Speaker 1: I believe I've seen my girl key underlocket uh in
51:19
Speaker 1: stars and I was like, oh gosh. So Kim was like,
51:22
Speaker 1: we've got to make this announcement before the rest of
51:24
Speaker 1: the you know, the world. He is it, because ain't
51:27
Speaker 1: nobody else canna make our announcement now, Ryan in Memphis,
51:33
Speaker 1: I know you've been waiting patiently. Thank you for holding on.
51:37
Speaker 1: What is your question? Yes, sir, thank you for having
51:41
Speaker 1: me on. I enjoy your show from play six year
51:45
Speaker 1: old from Memphis. I'm very intrigued by the entrepreneurship that
51:50
Speaker 1: comes on this show every week and try to apply
51:53
Speaker 1: one thing I learned every week to my life. Light
51:55
Speaker 1: did that one for sent better on? My question would
51:58
Speaker 1: be at what to the business and owning your own business?
52:03
Speaker 1: Is it okay to allow your family to help your
52:08
Speaker 1: business grow? And when is it not okay when you're
52:12
Speaker 1: in certain stages of the building process to tell your family, Hey,
52:16
Speaker 1: I'm not at the point where I need you yet,
52:18
Speaker 1: just hold on my safe. UM. You know that that
52:24
Speaker 1: is a good question, but I think that it is
52:25
Speaker 1: something that is based on your own goals that you have. UM.
52:31
Speaker 1: You can do it as early as startup doing um
52:34
Speaker 1: crowdfunding like getting people to so basically into your business
52:39
Speaker 1: to help you to get your business off the ground.
52:42
Speaker 1: Ke Andre and I actually we were funded by our mother,
52:45
Speaker 1: so she gave us our startup money. She's also and
52:48
Speaker 1: she's also a partner of our So this is totally
52:52
Speaker 1: a family business. But it's just you to define the
52:55
Speaker 1: lines and you know the boundaries of how those people
52:58
Speaker 1: who do help your business. It's up to you did
53:02
Speaker 1: define how that works and what part they'll play. Um,
53:05
Speaker 1: is this the donation, is it a partnership? You know,
53:09
Speaker 1: things like that, And you can do it like I
53:10
Speaker 1: said it earlier, start up in the middle, if you're
53:13
Speaker 1: needing more funding, excuse me, things like that. But it
53:17
Speaker 1: just depends on how involved you want them. I would say,
53:20
Speaker 1: to make sure that it is someone that, of course,
53:22
Speaker 1: that you can trust in your family, because unfortunately not
53:25
Speaker 1: all family members can be trusted. But someone that you
53:27
Speaker 1: can trust and someone who understands paperwork is there to
53:32
Speaker 1: keep seeing you know, balanced, to keep things on the
53:36
Speaker 1: up and up, because not everybody understands that because you know,
53:39
Speaker 1: of course, once you start growing people, you know, things
53:43
Speaker 1: change sometimes for people in their minds. Um, and that
53:46
Speaker 1: paperwork always keeps you so honest and um accountable your
53:53
Speaker 1: question and answered it and and then some and I
53:58
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get the rest of it out of
53:59
Speaker 1: my appreciation. Well, Ryan, keep listening. And when I come
54:02
Speaker 1: to Memphis, man, we gotta share each of that chicken man,
54:04
Speaker 1: because Memphis and fried chicken and go hand in hand. Okay,
54:08
Speaker 1: hey man, I got somewhere right now. Thank you, my
54:11
Speaker 1: brother appreciate you. Sonya got Sonya on the line. How
54:14
Speaker 1: are you doing? Signa Hey Rashan, how are you doing?
54:18
Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. I want to show not by myself,
54:21
Speaker 1: Kendra and Kim. They're only here talking about their fantastic
54:24
Speaker 1: clothing line that's in taj or Target as it is
54:27
Speaker 1: professionally stated Tarja is when you know, I think with
54:30
Speaker 1: your boys and your girls, I just three, I'm going
54:32
Speaker 1: down to you know, so what you have? What question
54:37
Speaker 1: do you have to say? Sonya? As I was as
54:40
Speaker 1: I was listening, and you guys said that you know
54:42
Speaker 1: it's perfect time and reason season, you know, and how
54:46
Speaker 1: to you know, went to go and went to you
54:48
Speaker 1: know safe stop or pullback? How did you all know
54:51
Speaker 1: there was time to even put your brand in Target? Like?
54:54
Speaker 1: What what was that? Great question? Do you you know? What?
54:58
Speaker 1: How how do how do I I started the business too,
55:01
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how do I figure out when is
55:03
Speaker 1: the right time to move in that way or not?
55:06
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? So actually we have um this answer
55:11
Speaker 1: will be twofold because for Kendra and I for Jolie Noir.
55:15
Speaker 1: Target approached us for Black History Months, um last year
55:18
Speaker 1: for a partnership, So it's a limited partnership that was
55:21
Speaker 1: for Black History Months, so that was obviously controlled by
55:25
Speaker 1: Target and them. Can you know contacting us? But um,
55:30
Speaker 1: as far as knowing when you're ready, I would say,
55:34
Speaker 1: once you have continual sales on your own platform, then
55:39
Speaker 1: that is a good key, good sign to know that
55:42
Speaker 1: you're ready to start pitching your brand or your ideas
55:45
Speaker 1: to other larger brands to partner with, because of course
55:49
Speaker 1: they want to see can you make them money? That
55:53
Speaker 1: is the name of the game. So um, if you
55:55
Speaker 1: can make yourself money, if you garner yourself a following,
55:59
Speaker 1: then they will be more apps to partner with. You
56:04
Speaker 1: answer your question, you know a awesome now And I
56:08
Speaker 1: know Kim was so calm with that. You know, talget
56:11
Speaker 1: contacted us, you know they called us. You know, I'm
56:15
Speaker 1: on with the Fleet March, I'm up with the fleet
56:17
Speaker 1: market trying to say Chicken Pop Pye sandwiches and talking
56:21
Speaker 1: contacted us. You know, you know, let's be on the
56:25
Speaker 1: real first. You know, we but that but that's the
56:28
Speaker 1: blessing of all these relationships is that you don't know
56:32
Speaker 1: and uh and and follow up on Ryan's question, family,
56:35
Speaker 1: see family, see I love what you were talking about
56:37
Speaker 1: their family mom gave money, putting it in writing contract.
56:41
Speaker 1: Let them know the responsibility of giving you this. But
56:44
Speaker 1: guess what what am I gonna get? That's business? See family.
56:48
Speaker 1: You gotta make sure it's always about business because sometimes family,
56:52
Speaker 1: Can I borrow some money? Okay? Can you go to
56:54
Speaker 1: the bank and ask that question? Okay, can you go
56:59
Speaker 1: to your job and asked that question. No, when you're
57:02
Speaker 1: coming to me, we're gonna have the same rules family,
57:06
Speaker 1: the same rule. And that's where family get twisted. They
57:09
Speaker 1: throw that, oh you know, you know you can play
57:11
Speaker 1: me like that. Statements like that are not used on
57:13
Speaker 1: any legal document. Play me like that that. It's not
57:16
Speaker 1: written in any legal document I ever had in my life.
57:20
Speaker 1: So you have to avoid those family terms. You know, love,
57:24
Speaker 1: love is no document, don't you know. I've never signed
57:27
Speaker 1: a legal contract that had love in it like that.
57:29
Speaker 1: You know, so understand that the relationship have to be
57:33
Speaker 1: bound by contractual thoughts. Bringing that lawyer, I'm tell you
57:38
Speaker 1: the worst deal you can do is I think that's right.
57:41
Speaker 1: I think that looks just that look good to you,
57:43
Speaker 1: that they look good to you. Uh, and you sign
57:46
Speaker 1: it and it's not good. It didn't look good at all.
57:48
Speaker 1: You should have had a lawyer to tell you, because
57:50
Speaker 1: a calma an and an or can make the difference
57:54
Speaker 1: between whether you have a good contract or you have
57:57
Speaker 1: a bad contract. That's how easy it can. And I
58:01
Speaker 1: just tell you, Kim and Candrew. I remember when I
58:04
Speaker 1: started my comedy club with my sister family. My family
58:07
Speaker 1: loved me and I loved them too. And you know,
58:10
Speaker 1: and when I started in a hotel, you know, we
58:14
Speaker 1: started a hotel and I was calling the hip hop
58:16
Speaker 1: comedy stop and they were working for free. They were
58:19
Speaker 1: working for free. You know, Ah, we just want to
58:22
Speaker 1: see you be successful. We just want to see you
58:24
Speaker 1: be successful. As soon as I started making just a
58:27
Speaker 1: live money, suddenly it was talking about where where I
58:29
Speaker 1: was there. I thought you were helping her brother, I
58:31
Speaker 1: thought you because I just see what I should have
58:34
Speaker 1: done up front was put in my budget what they
58:38
Speaker 1: supposed to have gotten paid. That way, I wouldn't have
58:40
Speaker 1: been blindside. They did all the right thing. They had
58:42
Speaker 1: a right to ask me for money, but because I
58:46
Speaker 1: was going out there family. That's what he was asking around.
58:50
Speaker 1: When do you bring family? And whenever you bring family
58:52
Speaker 1: and do what they did, put it in writing and
58:55
Speaker 1: understand there's a responsible role you have to pay play
58:59
Speaker 1: when you dealing with money. And my night and my correct, ladies,
59:04
Speaker 1: you're absolutely correct. Thank you. One thing I wanted to
59:07
Speaker 1: say before we leave, and I want to congratulate your
59:10
Speaker 1: This interview was fantastic. And you know sometimes you know,
59:13
Speaker 1: I got a bet yesterday, I gotta be three o'clock today.
59:16
Speaker 1: I got up at four thirty and it's a long
59:18
Speaker 1: day for me. And when I come to the show,
59:20
Speaker 1: it's always like a passion and a moment of faith
59:24
Speaker 1: about why I do this and when I when I
59:26
Speaker 1: when I get to this point, I go, wow, this
59:28
Speaker 1: is why I do it. You fantastic, y'all. Both are
59:31
Speaker 1: just a joy and a blessing and it's called through
59:35
Speaker 1: people calling in you changing people's lives, not longer with
59:38
Speaker 1: your clothes, but also with your sensibility. Is your tone,
59:42
Speaker 1: your your motivation? But how does the design process? I
59:46
Speaker 1: think there's one question I want to get out before
59:48
Speaker 1: we wrap up. How does the design process work? Really?
59:51
Speaker 1: When it comes to men really and when it comes
59:53
Speaker 1: to women as we wrap up the show. Yeah, so
59:57
Speaker 1: we look at colors. We first start with is blackness,
1:00:01
Speaker 1: if you will, So things that will look good on
1:00:04
Speaker 1: dark brown or light or brown, whatever color, whatever shade
1:00:07
Speaker 1: was looked at almost color people, UM, and so we
1:00:11
Speaker 1: start they're looking at colors, and then we kind of
1:00:13
Speaker 1: look at what appeals to our customer base and what's
1:00:17
Speaker 1: going on out in the rest of the world for
1:00:20
Speaker 1: a fashion. So we combine all of those elements together.
1:00:24
Speaker 1: Keiander and I. We glean from nature, UM, artwork, UM,
1:00:28
Speaker 1: all kinds of things to create UM. And we just
1:00:33
Speaker 1: get inspired by so many different things, UM, by a
1:00:37
Speaker 1: phrase and like a trigger word might trigger a phrase
1:00:40
Speaker 1: or something like that for us, UM, you know, something
1:00:43
Speaker 1: that's pointing back to Jolignoir or something like that, just
1:00:46
Speaker 1: depends on what the phrase is UM. And then that
1:00:50
Speaker 1: is how we get our designs, each one of our
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Speaker 1: individual designs. But that's usually how the process works. Keyandern I.
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Speaker 1: For our illustrations, we do not draw them ourselves, but
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Speaker 1: we do select all the hair, the eyes, the nails,
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Speaker 1: everything that you see. You leave your sister no time
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Speaker 1: I mean, Cam you leave your sister no time. You
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Speaker 1: know time I gotta go. It's fox seconds left. I
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Speaker 1: love y'all both, but that she talked too much. You
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Speaker 1: talked too much. I see y'all next week. Go wanted
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Speaker 1: making conversations to plan the locket systems? What talk too much?
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Speaker 1: What I can saying? That's all I can say. You've
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Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rushan McDonald. Hi Rashan McDonald for Money
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Speaker 1: I sat down with multi award winning gospel artis c
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Speaker 1: c One. She's on the show to discuss her new
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Speaker 1: live album, Bleed for It, and how she wants to
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Speaker 1: continue to encourage people to move on with what's in
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Speaker 1: their heart. I love the experience of life worship life concerts.
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Speaker 1: We've toured for years and there's nothing like it, you know.
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Speaker 1: But also I guess for me in the studio, when
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Speaker 1: you do a recording in the studio, you're able to
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Speaker 1: kind of listen to it, tweak it, fix this, make
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Speaker 1: sure you know. So that's the value to me and
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Speaker 1: doing in the studio. But I think we just got
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Speaker 1: busy with life and never took out the time. But
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