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Ashley & JaQuavis Coleman, Dr. Eugene & Nikki Walton & More · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: my act together here. Welcome. Yesterday it was raining in
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  Speaker 1: To let you know why I'm here. I'm here to
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  Speaker 1: tell you about how to be successful, give you advice
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  Speaker 1: on some free advice on the next steps in life.
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  Speaker 1: They may change your life. From a guy who made
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  Speaker 1: his share of mistakes and had a lot of steps
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  Speaker 1: of success. With that being said, I interview people on
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  Speaker 1: my show who were CEO's industry decision makers, small businesses,
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  Speaker 1: and celebrities as they give you the secret secrets to
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  Speaker 1: success before I get started. Uh, I am in Houston.
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  Speaker 1: Today's early voting time, and I have a gentleman on
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  Speaker 1: the phone. Want to bring him up right up live,
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  Speaker 1: right now because I am in Houston. I gotta be
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  Speaker 1: respectful for what's going on here. We always tell people
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  Speaker 1: to go out and vote, and then I'll be remissed
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  Speaker 1: if I don't give an opportunity for somebody to express
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  Speaker 1: the importance of early voting today. Please work on the line.
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  Speaker 1: Mr Rodney Griffin. Thank you that Mrs McDonald's marketing yourself
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  Speaker 1: and well has the institution. So so we's got out
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  Speaker 1: of camp. You should go bust out with compliments. So
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  Speaker 1: that's how you're gonna get me. You know, I get
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  Speaker 1: this quick profoil. If you're gonna give appreciate you give
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  Speaker 1: it a public service or now and like you did
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  Speaker 1: on this and courts about voting, I'm I'm riding the
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  Speaker 1: Griffin and a lot of people already know me with
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  Speaker 1: the Texas Dettocratic Party and the days this first day
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  Speaker 1: of early voting, so I vote get it over now.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the key in early voting. You don't have to
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  Speaker 1: go through any particular precincts just as long as it's
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  Speaker 1: in the county. For example, in Harris County, any precinct
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  Speaker 1: in Harris County you can go out and vote and
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  Speaker 1: on there you're gonna have a constitutions amendments about seven
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  Speaker 1: of them. But also as important you have candidates. But
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  Speaker 1: he's local elections for the Harris for the Houston UH
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  Speaker 1: Border School Border Trustees, you community to college and you
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  Speaker 1: how do massourn see that in forth Being County in
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  Speaker 1: particulars these district council races that are going on that
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  Speaker 1: and then just remember the adage all politics is local.
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  Speaker 1: Might make a bad graandmar, but it makes a good
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  Speaker 1: sense and you go out because those are the postals
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  Speaker 1: gon't determined more than Washston will. It's important, but they
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  Speaker 1: will determine how that money is spent. They come for
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  Speaker 1: Washston and what you getting what you don't care. And
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  Speaker 1: the last thing I want to say again thank you
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  Speaker 1: for your time, is the adage is vot think who
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  Speaker 1: ripping out my man? Stay strong again that the day
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  Speaker 1: is the early voting. I just was gonna be remissed
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  Speaker 1: if I didn't give them my opportunity to express the
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  Speaker 1: importance of voting because they're voting and how people vote
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  Speaker 1: can affect small businesses, and I have to keep in
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  Speaker 1: lyning with That's what money making conversation is all about.
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  Speaker 1: It's about laying the guidelines right now. That's why the
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  Speaker 1: SBA is out there right now giving out these disaster
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  Speaker 1: relief loans get these small businesses up and running the
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  Speaker 1: game because of the fact that small businesses pay taxes,
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  Speaker 1: give you running correctly. That's why a couple of months ago,
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  Speaker 1: and I said a couple of months ago, where the
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  Speaker 1: mayor of Houston was trying to uh figure out a
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  Speaker 1: way to overcome the the all these flood district by
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  Speaker 1: creating increasing property taxes on homes that were because he
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  Speaker 1: realized that we're gonna be an issue that was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a problem because of the fact that the model
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  Speaker 1: damages that were done by Hurricane Harvey. We are recovering
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  Speaker 1: from Hurricane Harvey. I'm recovering from Hurricane Harvey, and I
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  Speaker 1: hope that you are recovering from her Hurricane Harvey. Personally.
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  Speaker 1: Harvey being and we had launched out very successfully the
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  Speaker 1: uh act like a lady. You know, uh think like
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a man series that's over three million copies. We had
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the same agent over there. I say edited, I should say, uh,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Don Davis, and she told me she we have just
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: she's we have this really talented author about natural hair.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm a ball here, dude. So you really
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you really ain't gonna get my attention real quick, doc,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And so she said, Rush, could you get them on?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Could you get them on our show? Can you can
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: you help promote to get her brand out there? So
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: that was the first time I was exposed to her.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: And it's been a tremendous blessing. I would say, to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: have her in my life and uh and also to
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: see the changes that she's made two people around the world,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's been a journey and it's been amazing.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And so but she told me that you are the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: inspiration behind Nikki dot com. Talk to me, yes, sir, yeah, yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: and really quickly before we start, let me just mention
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: that people may not know this, but at that time, you,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I mean you, you Nikki reach out to you um
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: as well, and you would responded and and you just
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: were a great um resource for us in general, you know.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Unrelated to brain promotion and stuff like JA. If people
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: don't know that that that something people should know is
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: that your pro community and um, you know this is
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: not the first time we talked, and usually when we talked,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I got questions for you and you're the share and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I gotta tell you. I got to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and I and I respect both for you know they
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: think about it is that people ask me that. And
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Doing this radio show, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: didn't realize what I was doing. You know, I would
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: just doing stuff out of respect, out of opportunity. You know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: God has given me knowledge and information that I am.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I have to share. I have to give it away
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: if I take it to the grave. What purpose have
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I served on this planet to just be that selfish?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: And so when people ask me questions, and I mean
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: on the phone this we could I get like six
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: or seven calls a weekend from either celebrities, athletes, CEOs
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: seeking advice and regular people seeking advice about what could
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I sign this? Could I do this? And then my
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: wife would look at me, go, you should be charging them.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: You should be charging them. I know why you can
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: win the free advice. You should be charging them. I go, baby, everybody,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: she'd be landing that bad man be looking at me. Oh,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: or you you're just gonna just give away some most
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: free advice. That's that's that's me, That's how I operate it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Can I just be me? And that's why I was
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: just telling telling Nikki on the phone this morning. Could
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I find that who her husband is? Yeah, let me
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: tell you. Let me tell you the story. So, um,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you know, so we've been together for sixteen years. We're
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: thirty four years old, and people always here that we've
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: been together for so long, and they're like, when did
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you guys get together? You know? Um? But really what
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: happened was very simple. I went to college and I was,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you know, freshman week in college is ready to meet
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: everybody I could, if you know what I meant? Um,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: And I walked past. Uh. Actually this very probably the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: thinnest woman I've ever met him between in my life,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: very pretty while passed me. And you know, we went
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to a small school that only had like a hundred
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: black folks that in the first place. So I'm like,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: she didn't speak to me, you know, um. And so
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I was like the next time I see her she's
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: gonna talk to me. So you know, we we started
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: off as friends for a month and been dating ever since.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Um yeah, sir, um, So you know, do you want
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: to tell your story about I had an issue with
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: my hair. I hated it. I hated my hair when
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: it was natural. I only loved myself when my hair
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: was perfectly bone straight. And Eugene had like a nineteen
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: nineties four Corsica at the time, So he would take
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: me to and from St. Louis, Missouri, which was where
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: my hair stylus was. That's a three hour trip one way.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: He would take me all the way there. If my
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: hair fresh school as love, become back to school, only
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: for it to sweat out again because we didn't even
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: have air conditioning in the dorm because we went to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: school a million years ago. So it was just it
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: was ridiculous. And he pulled me to the side at
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: one point and he's like, making your a psychology major.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: You're a beautiful girl. You should realize that this is
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: an issue. You were just as beautiful with your hair curly,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you know, as as when it's straight. And I hadn't
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: ever heard that before, I think verbalized. So it took
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: me back for a minute, and then I started researching
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and learning how to do my own hair up. And
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to that point I had never even washed my own hair.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I had always gone to the salon. All I knew
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: how to do was keep it straight. So it was
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: really him that took me to that place of recognition
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and that led to my freedom um and eventually the
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: freedom of other women. It was also get his idea
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to actually start the blog. After about five or six
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: years of intense research and even sharing what I was
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: learning real time with members of several forums around the web,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I got very very popular, very well known in those spaces,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and teams would get annoyed because it's like he had
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: woken up this monster in me, and he's like, Mackey,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you're always on the computer, Like what are you doing?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And why are we not being paid for this? All day?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: We're not talking no more, like oh it's busy. He said,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: why don't you start your own site and let these
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: women come and you know, talk to you and maybe
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: he can make some money. And I'm like, oh, who
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: would ever want to hear me talk about hair every day?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And it's me two months to get up my courage
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to launch the website and the rest of history. It
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: was all It was Jean's idea to start curly Nicky
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: dot com and it's been an amazing resource, of amazing
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: positive platform for so many women. What exactly is the
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: little story about my daughter, my daughter, you know, my wife,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and that during it burnt all my daughter's hair out
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: her head because it was easy. You know you're going there.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Once you get that perm, you don't have to worry
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: about it no more. And we all and it took
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: it took about two years to get it back right,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because but but the reason
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: we did it was laziness. I'll be honest with you.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Look cute, but it was laziness because of the fact
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: that you could take it in there and at last
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: it was just straight. And so now you know, we
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: flat iron it out if she wants it done that way.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: But we don't do any more perms anymore. And so
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I say that to say, what exactly is natural hair? Right?
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: So natural hair is you embracing and learning to love
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and work with and care for your natural texture at
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: roads from your scouts. So actually caring for it as
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: opposed to just maintaining it, which is the way we
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: were hot growing up. Even with your daughter, we knew
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: how to name hate our straight hair. I never knew
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: how to care for now true hair. So it consists
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: of going natural by either big chopping meaning cutting off
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: all of the relaxed hair and one self group, or
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: just gradually transitioning, cutting off little bits at a time. Um,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: it sounds like that's maybe what you all do with
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: your daughter, so natural in that way, and then learning
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to actually style and care for and love the natural
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: hair that you have. You now, I want to make
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: sure now when we apply a hot iron, is that's
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: still the natural way? Are we You're still natural? It's
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: important to know that natural hair is very versatile, so
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: you can do lots of different styles. You can blow
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: it out, you can wear it straight, you can wear
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to a throw, you can wear it and it twisted out.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I just caution my readers, my hair is straight right now.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Caution my readers to use proper tools and techniques when
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: they're doing these things so that they don't ran back
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: in the same place, needing to transition out of damage. Okay,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: don't because I really want to talk about this, because
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: because the word natural just help me with this because
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I want to get the language. I don't want to
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: sound crazy, but you know that were natural means because
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you see women with different styles and sometimes it just
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: looks bush. It just looks like just hairs on their heads.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just on their head and so so,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and I want to I want to get some callers there.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: And also because that might be confused that you gotta
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: look like that that's natural. But you just told me,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: we're sure you can straighten out your hair, you can
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: use a hot and that's still the natural hairs. Exactly
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: what you're saying is like, there's there's women with relax
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: hair walking around her looking crazy, noting, not calm, not frush.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: There's natural hair women out here looking crazy too. I'm
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: talking about natural hair together, you know, like caring for it,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: sawing it. You know, that's a different whole thing. And
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that is natural hair. Now natural as in like not
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: manipulating it. That's not what we're talking about. We're still
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: talking about I love, I love, I love because you
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: know something, I can never have said what she said
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: out of the blast of those social media you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: she used to word manipulated, So I would never work manipulated.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I listened that had look at all crazy. That's what
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I'll be looking at. I don't want my daughter had
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: looking like that because because you know what you're called
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that blasted with the natural look. Was Beyonce daughter blue?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she got blasted because her daughter hair was
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: just just there, you know. And and but they were
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: saying that was the natural look for her daughter to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: sport her hair like that. I know that that's the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that's the eight months year old that kind of popped
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: up there in your lives. I see. I know both
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of them. They speak the baby, but they happen, they're happy,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and so my whole thing is that and dealing with
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: these different things. When I come back, I want to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: talk about these different strategic partnerships that you guys are
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: created and also the brand build because it's important that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: everybody here, the energy between you know, Eugene and Nikki,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and that's why empowerment is important because you do win.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: You know, I would not be here today if my
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: wife didn't support me, even I would say that. You know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: when I was on the road telling jokes, she was
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: in there looking at people eyeballs because she was an optometrys.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't make it no money, and so so I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: know that there has to be a partnership in order
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: for this to become successful. When we come back, we're
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about the strategic partnerships and talk some more.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And again, I'm just so happy to have both of
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you guys on the show. And it is not the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: first time or the last time we're gonna talk. Be
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: right back with more money making conversations with the founders
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of Curly Nicki dot com. Hi, this ra Sean McDonald.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I'm back with money making conversations on the phone or
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the founders of Curly Nicki dot coms. Once. They're good
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: friends because I've known them for a long time now
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and it's been special watching their growth and uh, watching
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: their travels. And they got a new one in new one,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: new one in the phone now eight months old, she
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: said Richean, I didn't expect this, But I'm gonna get
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: back in shape really quick. I'm gonna be like serena week.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Ain't nobody gonna know what's happened to me. I'm just
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: gonna have this baby. They're gonna be just gonna hit
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: some nods in the background. It's gonna it is gonna.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So happy to have back on the phone doctor, doctor
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Eugene walteron and Nicky Walter. How you doing good? Good?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having us. Well, it's great to uh. You know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I always tell people when you do interviews like this,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: this is like it's part of the process you know
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you're doing. You get the word out and if you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you keep layering opportunity on top of opportunities, and it's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: not really like it's gonna be a home run. You know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: whether you do Steve Harvard Show, you do Doctor as
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you do Rachel Ray, or you do you know, the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: view all this stuff. You have to just continue to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: keep in motion. It's about the marketing and the brandy.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts when I say something like that,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Eugene um marketing and brandy? You know what's funny Um,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: because if you if you think about what Nick's been doing,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: this is she's nine years in at this point and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: has more influence now than when she started. And I
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: think one of the more interesting things that led to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that was the focus the business model that she pursued.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, she she ran a consumer based or consumer
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: focused business model, which in case you know, anybody was listening.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: That's not an easy way to make money, right, because
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the commodity you're selling is objective information. And so with
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Nikki it was you know, if I so when I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: take consumer base, I say, the core idea is that
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: however you package and sell your product, does not compromise
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the integrity of that product in a way that would
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: hurt the consumer. And so really what she did was
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: focused on putting on high quality content that spoke to
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: upperly mobile you know, ethnic primarily black women, UM, and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: pursuing an integrity based model in terms of the things
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: she promoted and in particular things that she passed on
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: promoting UM and the and the various moneys she left
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: on the table, and she left a lot of play
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: on the table. I witnessed it myself, UM, and was broke,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Like you were like just similar to the story you
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: were doing. It meant something to me. UM. But you know,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: she put on that high quality content and really offered
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a value proposition for the for the brands that wanted
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to advertise, and for the consumers that needed the objective
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: information that made sense. UM. The brands got a concentrated,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you know, collection of their potential consumers in one place
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and a positive pro black um community. Um, the consumers
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: got objective information, and we were also putting on content.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: You know, Nikki particular was really good at this putting
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: on really high quality, you know, promotional content. So we
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: did things like take our audience to the Video Music
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Awards and let the meet Kevin Hart before he went
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: on stage, right, UM let them. You know, we did
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: interviews with more than a hundred black female celebrities who
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: talks exclusively about their hair and the struggles of being
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a black woman in the media and dealing with their hair.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: We change, um the live events model from a hair
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: show based model, which has really been was a consumer
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, which was a was a kind of professional
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: inside industry event, but you know the big hair shows
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: now for her absolute hair show things like that, and
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: really turned those into consumer based events where women really
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: got together in lounges and bars and spot products and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: had community. And you know, manufacturers really want to get
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in on that. So I think, you know, focusing you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: looking for opportunities to make money while without compromising the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: core products, which was community that she was selling. UM
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: is the way she is the reason why she's relevant today,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: But that would be my guests. Honestly, it's a phenomenon.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know why she's you know, why she's been
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: so important to black women, But I'm happy about it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I'm happy that we're able to do something, you know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: great for the community. I think cool. This is my
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: segred way to the acknowledge me of her success. Black
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Enterprise named her one of the way of supposed Influential Voices,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and S has named her among their top thirty five
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and under Young Black and amazing when you get these acclauds,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the accolades like these, Nikki, because I know you know
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you you on these different shows. You know, do you
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: feel you want your own show? You want to just
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: be able to promote your own voice? What what's the goal?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: What's the next steps with you? Nikki? You know I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and I have lots of ideas for what the next
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: step is. However, I'm also I believe that I'm being
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: um like divinely guided. I did not know that curly
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Nikki dot com was going to become what it became.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I was doing it because it felt good.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Um And I believe that money comes, like you know,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: that supply comes when you're doing something that is coming
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: from that place. So you're providing a service for people.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I believe that I'm being used in many ways, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what the next iteration of
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that is. You know, I still love talking about hair,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: but I have other passions that I would like to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: flush out a bit more. I'll be calling you soon
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: to talk about that. Yes, yes, and fussing at me.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: But I love being on the shows. I have another
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: series of Doctor Odds appearances coming up. You know. It's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: it's really fun. But I know that I have more
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to offer to and that's that's just finding your voice
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and that and that think that's really key. It'sn't finding
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: your voice and just like Max, he got a voice.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah and uh. And so
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the thing about it tell us about some of the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: some of the upcoming projects. I see the Lorial sponsors books.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: You already mentioned the Doctor Arts appearances. UM, just just
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: tell us what's going in the pipeline right now, right.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: So the Lorios book was actually very very special. I
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: actually UM was offered another book by HarperCollins, but decided
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to offer this book to the audience for free as
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a way to give back. Obviously, I made money because
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: you know, money was a really awesome promotional tool, even
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: though the book itself was not promotion. The book was
• 34:49
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  Speaker 1: and he's finally done that. This year has been a major, major,
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  Speaker 1: at Penn State for three years. I taught political science,
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  Speaker 1: I love teaching. I love everything about working with students.
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  Speaker 1: while this was happening, you know, we would we would
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  Speaker 1: whenever I had time off, which was every winner and
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  Speaker 1: every summer, we would do our big marketing kind of initiatives. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna do what I'm queshing out my
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  Speaker 1: team right now when we're I have a selag group
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  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna open this up and do search engine optimization.
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  Speaker 1: All the people that are in the marketing world know
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  Speaker 1: time in the marketing and um, I'm excited. And you
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  Speaker 1: know what's funny, I'm scared and that's the best time. Well.
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people when you are afraid, it's the
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  Speaker 1: zone and I'm here. People use the words fear, people
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  Speaker 1: use the words selfish incorrectly as far as I'm concerned,
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  Speaker 1: because you have to be selfish to to deny other
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  Speaker 1: things in life in order to be successful. I know
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  Speaker 1: for a fact that I selfishly, you know, when my
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  Speaker 1: family was living used, I selfishly was living in New York.
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  Speaker 1: I was selfishly living in l A and denied my
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  Speaker 1: But I was there as much as I could. But
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  Speaker 1: did you know every time when I moved to New York,
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  Speaker 1: I was afraid. I moved to Chicago with the talk shows,
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  Speaker 1: afraid I moved to l A. I was afraid because
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  Speaker 1: there's so much uncertainty and people people just deny themselves
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  Speaker 1: so much from fear. They stay at regular jobs and
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• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So that's that's the part of the game that I
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: really respect in my relationship with Nikki over the years.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: And here and you're going out in this new digital platform,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: is that called me my friend? I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: say my friend because that's what I built this show on.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And I may have some opportunities going on because I
• 37:47
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• 37:55
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• 38:03
  Speaker 1: headquarters are gonna win. Our headquarters will be in the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: DC market. And so so it's important that you you
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  Speaker 1: get that digital thing together and reach out to me.
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  Speaker 1: And that's all this is about. It's about gathering information
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  Speaker 1: and and and combining it. So so this started out
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  Speaker 1: as a casual conversation now as a money making conversation,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and that's what it's all. That's great to hear, you know,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: talking to somebody like you. I mean, I think the
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  Speaker 1: first time I talked to you, you are already too
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  Speaker 1: emmies and I think, yes, I mean I think you
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  Speaker 1: see how even what you're doing now, I love it,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So it's really great to hear that. I
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  Speaker 1: take a lot of inspiration and encouragement from watching the
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  Speaker 1: folks like yourself. So here we about to close out
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: this interview. Nikki Gott, you gotta been in touch with
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: me so we can really get re balance, find out
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• 39:27
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• 40:00
  Speaker 1: with more my man or Checkmate Hudson coming right up
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  Speaker 1: My next guest is a true moti vader. He's a
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: former small time crook gang member, state trooper, Air Force veteran,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and World Right Now chess champion. He's the author of
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the number one Amazon bestselling book One Move at a Time,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: How to Win a Chest in Life. Please welcome the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation or in Checkmate Hudson, Mr Hudson, How
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  Speaker 1: you doing, Mr Hutson, Yes, sir, they how are you
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  Speaker 1: doing it? They? I can hear now they're pressing the
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  Speaker 1: wrong buttons up here, Robert over here pressing all the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: wrong buttons. Man talking about you on the call and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm laying out that great interview and there's great intro.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, man, you know you just
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  Speaker 1: can't hire your cousins man, the high family brother. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm claiming him and his family because otherwise I had
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of I ain't doing Mr Hudson. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Like I say, the best day of my life. I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: get there, talk to some bringing people and connect with you.
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  Speaker 1: It's always a good thing. Well, I want to I
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  Speaker 1: know I wanted to. Uh. I mentioned in the intro
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  Speaker 1: about small time crook gang member, state trooper, Air Force
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  Speaker 1: veteran and world right now chess champion. Can we can
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: we go through each layer so we can tell people
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: about this journey as to how we're on the phone today.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Where are you? Where are you originally from? Where are
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: you originally from? Imham, Alabama? I was. I was in
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: a family. But I have I have twelve brothers and twelves.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I mean six brothers and six sisters, so I have
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: it's thirteen of us altogether. My sister had a child,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: so it was about fourteen of us in the house
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: at one time. And a guy came to me and said, um,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: if you want to have all these goodies that I
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: got here came into me a box of honey buns
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and snacks and stuff like, Davia, if you want to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: have this, you got to do what we say do
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And I said, okay, I'm in. So I was somewhat
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: of a gang that walk around breaking in Greg cookie
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: trucks and stealing snacks out of him to provide for
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the family at home and come home with a boxer
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: all kind of goodies. And uh, I was somewhat the
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  Speaker 1: hero for the family. Now is that the small time
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: crook or the gang member? Which one is that? That's
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the phone, that's the phone. That's a combination of both,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: that's both. I was following, following the wrong people, doing
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the wrong things, and uh, making some bad choices. Now,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: how long did you make those bad choices? And who
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: snapped you out of those bad choices? Well, a white
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: teacher by the name of James Edge pulled me to
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  Speaker 1: the side and taught me chest and kind of broke
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  Speaker 1: the cycle over of taking and changed the cycle from
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: taking the giving and serving other people. So he taught
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  Speaker 1: me chess and the think things through. Don't do the
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  Speaker 1: first thing to pop in your head, right, and that's what.
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  Speaker 1: That's what that's one of the true components of chest right, Yes, sir, okay, guy,
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  Speaker 1: I think things through because one moon could call you
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  Speaker 1: the game. Okay, now, okay, we've got people out there.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: What about dominoes? What about checkers? Well, checkers is okay,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: but it's not as complicated and complex. Life is complex.
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  Speaker 1: So Chess and Mike are like in that. You got
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  Speaker 1: black and white checkers. There's no queen on the board.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Chest The queen is on the board, and she's seven
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: times more powerful than the king, just like in life. Absolutely, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: And when they want to want to know, they want
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: to know what women shopping, they want to know what
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  Speaker 1: television shows women are watching. They want to know what
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: they're buying, what are they thinking? The world is run
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: and make all the decisions. Absolutely, So that's what the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: whole thought process of chess comes in. Okay. So so
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: now you're randing this this gentleman, he changed your life,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: taught you chess. Now, how did you become a state trooper? I? Uh,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: like I say, I became the state Alabama state troop
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: but applied and uh I never forget because I said
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: it was six hundred people took the test and instructor said, listen,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: six hundred you gots taking the test. We only got
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to hire a hundred. So we're gonna take the the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: top how to test scores and we're gonna work from there.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: So I tell kids all the time, make sure you
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: get the education because if you don't, if you don't
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: go high on FAM, guess what are you out. So
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you got to be able to provide, you know, and
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: do well and score well. So I, you know, I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: was like, I think I was number third or three,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: So I was in so so so we went from
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: a small time crook slash gang member. Now you're a
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: state trooper. Now military came in your life, Air Force veteran.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: How important was that role? Well, the Air Force is
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: very important because you know, you've got to serve our
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: country and we've got to try to do what we
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: can to help others, and the military and the State
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: troopers basically saying service protect. But I really, really, I'm
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: really expired by what I do. Now, what you're teaching
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  Speaker 1: young people, brains before bullets and think it out and
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: don't shoot it at That's the main message I want
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to get out to our young people. That there's a
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: better way to choose peace instead of violence. But all
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: that's part of your journey though. That's why I wanted
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, because you know, you're
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: such a good speaker and you're such a good motivator.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear people on my show that
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I brought the back to tell your story, because that
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: story the locks now why you have this passion, why
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you can because as a state trooper, you've seen violence,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: You've seen that journey, that note that did in journey
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  Speaker 1: for so many youths that you're trying to save today.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: And then when you went into the military, that was
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: a great option, but that still is tied to violence.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: And so those two levels focused you now to who
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: you are are world right now, world renow Chess player. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: and mostly what I do is I teach children. Chess
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  Speaker 1: is about studying what works. If you if you study
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  Speaker 1: what works, okay, and if you do what works, you'll
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you'll win. You'll win the game of life. But you've
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: got to study will work. That's all chess. The pattern recognition.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Once you know the pattern, you can play, you can prepare,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you could position and you predict, but Chess is nothing
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: but recognizing patterns. Learn from every decision that you make,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: and don't make the same mistake twice. Make the same
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: mistake twice, because who don't make the same mistake twice,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Because chess won't allow you that option. Well,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: you gotta learn. If you don't learn, if you get
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: checkmated on this game, then don't do the same move.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: You know, gonna make a smart move like watching the movie.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: You watch a movie, you know how it ends, right,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: So hey, we ain't doing that. So we ain't getting
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: in that cab. That cab hit the calle and that
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: movie ain't doing that. Now, now this all led to
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: your foundation be someone correct? Yes, now now it's that
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I hope you see what I'm doing with this journey
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: because I want to tell your story, you know, you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: because I know you quickly just motivates trying to come
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: up with but we gotta we got another break. We're
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: gonna do all that too. But I try to with
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the show now is have a conversation with everybody. And
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: in that conversation that you have with a person like
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: you, you you know, with a brand so unique and chance
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• 47:47
  Speaker 1: understand why. There's value and business in it and education
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• 47:55
  Speaker 1: the focals. It is the basis of why you are
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  Speaker 1: who you are, correct exactly. And chance is the game
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: of life because it's black and white and black and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: white as the same. Don't play the blame game, play
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the win, and it teaches you this is powerful lesson.
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  Speaker 1: You have everything you need to succeed. You have your mind,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: you have your ability, you have your talents, and you
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: have time. You could do. No one's better than you,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: and you know better than anyone else. Use what you
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: have to get what you want. This chest that's like
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: and that's what that now? When when did you find
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  Speaker 1: be someone? I found to be something. In one and
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: May May twenty and two thousand, seven people were shot
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: on the robbery for two thousand dollars in Queen, New York.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: And I said to myself, evil prevails when good people
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: do nothing. So I started a crime prevention program called
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: be Someone May twenty May May twenty four or two
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  Speaker 1: thousand to teach people to think it out stid of
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: shoot it out, and also to teach people to cash
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  Speaker 1: in knowledge, attitudes, skills and have it. Get this cash
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: because once you get this cast, this cash is king. Wow.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be right back with more of my man,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Mr Hudson, call him checkmate, talking about life changing, using
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the using the game. And it may be simple to
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: others and may be complicated to others, but it's a
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: game of life that teaches you don't make the same mistake.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Why keep doing the same mistake over and over again?
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: And that's what people keep doing. They keep going to
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: work at the same job over and over again, keep
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: complaining about the same situation over and over again, or
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: keep dealing with the same relationship over and over again.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: It's all complaints and my man, Mr Hudson, checkmate Hudson
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: will tell you how to get through it. We were
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: right back with more money making conversations. Don't go nowhere,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Mr Hudson, We're gonna be right back, my friend, Hide
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: this ra Sean McDonald. I'm back with more money making conversations.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: It's a show that allows you to listen to industry
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: decision makers, ceo, small businesses and celebrities as they tell
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you the secret to success, motivate you to win. Take
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: you down the lane of a lane of knowledge that
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: you made, not not being aware of. I guess what
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: you knew? It just a refresh your course on the
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: phone right there, Mr Rang, checkmate Hudson, how you doing?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Or oh man? Like I say, I'm just thank god
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I'm here with you. Today is the best day in
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: my life. I get to hang out with Dr McDonald.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: He's all that interfact of ship. My man, here's the deal.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: You started in two thousands and you've trained over fifty
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: five thousand students. Mm hmm. My goal is a million,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: so I have a long way to go. I'm in
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: l A right now, training kids and some adults, teaching
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: them how to think and don't do the first thing
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: that popped in your head. The first thing that popped
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: in your head is usually a trap. So I teach
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: six magic words. They started with a teeth. Very pal,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: take time to think things through. It's this true, It's
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: just honest. Is this the best move I can make?
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Make every move your best move? Now, when you say
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: you in l A training, tell me how did that
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: come about? And what is actually is the training? Tell
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: us how it came about? You got your tell and
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: what is the training that you're doing well. I'm every
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: time I speak, I get people that I spoke for
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the Chamber of Commerce, uh, the California Chamber of Commerce,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and I did a lunching there and then for one
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: of the people there or whatever, and then a lot
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: of people came up one of my business cars. So
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: it just just snowballs into that and I get speaking
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: opportunity to next thing, you know, Disney called me. Then
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the next thing you know, uh, Jane found a call me.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: The next thing you know, type of Perry calling. Then
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the next thing you know, uh did call I mean
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: just people call me because oh you just gonna throw
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: he stopped and let stop stop or stop You're just
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: gonna throw our Jane found the name like that's regular hump.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: You should gonna throw our Tyler Perry name like that's regular. Huh.
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  Speaker 1: He just had the number one movie at the box
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  Speaker 1: my cousin next door just up and gas my car.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: That means you haven't. I mean that's different. There are
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  Speaker 1: people who feel that you make an impactful difference in
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  Speaker 1: people's lives. Man, And that's why I owe a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that to you, my brother. You kind of open
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  Speaker 1: a lot of door you myself. Now you you you
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  Speaker 1: bring it, You bring a lot of the things. You know.
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  Speaker 1: You said something I'll never forget you said. You know
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  Speaker 1: what you people pay you to use your mind, and
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  Speaker 1: you use your mind to starve problems. And I honor
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  Speaker 1: you for saying that because that's basically what I'm about
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: teaching young people to get your head in the game.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that can take you to your goals
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: your head. And that's absolutely true. And that's why. You know.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: The thing I like about our conversations is that you
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: know you are. You are a motivator, and you're a
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: person that stays in front of people. Always tell people
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: to be successful or to make your competition aware who
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: you are. I always tell people say it's a it's
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a driving technique of stand in front of somebody's bumper.
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  Speaker 1: See if your car is in on the bumper of
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  Speaker 1: your competitor, that means you're in front of them and
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  Speaker 1: they got to figure out how to get around you.
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  Speaker 1: So your coold goal the motivation is to stay in
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  Speaker 1: front of them. And so that's what you've done, you know,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: whether whether inviting you out to the Steve Harvey camp
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: or seeing you in New York and you said, Rashan,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: you're always telling me, Rashan, I'm doing to this, Rashan,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I can do this for you. You're always pitching, pitching
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: positive angles because in the end, you're you're teaching. You're
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: teaching things to us that we would ignore if you
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: didn't pitch your tours. You know, you know what I'm saying,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: because because you know, chess is a game that few
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: people recognize outside of it being a board game, and
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: you're telling us, Rashawn, stop the madness. Chess is a
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: game of life. Board playing on the board is just
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: one of the techniques. But if you take those same
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: principles and apply to your small business, if you take
• 53:53
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• 53:55
  Speaker 1: student in college, if you take those same principles and
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  Speaker 1: apply in your relationship, it all works correct exactly, and
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  Speaker 1: you know that you have everything you need to win.
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  Speaker 1: You know, don't play the blame game, play the win
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  Speaker 1: you have. You know you can do this. You can
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  Speaker 1: your stuff around people who can elevate your game. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't know how to play chair, just hang with me.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Come to my free workshop I'm doing on December twin
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  Speaker 1: the first. It's gonna be free food, free training, free everything.
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  Speaker 1: Come and learn from me. I'm gonna draw back the
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  Speaker 1: curtain and I'm gonna show you how to be one
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  Speaker 1: of the top Russian grand masters in the world. I'm
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: gonna show you how I did that. I'm gonna pull
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  Speaker 1: back to curtain. Check me, I'm check check me. Hold up, now,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: you said the word free. You said December twenty first,
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  Speaker 1: right right, Free food, free training, free everything, free parking,
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  Speaker 1: everything's free. Gonna be at is gonna be at the
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  Speaker 1: Stone Mountain Events Center, uh uh and uh seventeen fifty
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  Speaker 1: Stone Stone Chris Drive. But it's gonna be on my website,
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  Speaker 1: on my Facebook page I have in Atlanta, Georgia. That's
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the key. It's in Atlanta, is actually Stone mount and
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  Speaker 1: Stone Ridge Event Center. It's gonna be from seven pm
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  Speaker 1: to nine thirty at night. It's gonna be Thursday night
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  Speaker 1: Life Skill Chip now through Stone Mountain is right, it's
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  Speaker 1: really Atlanta, Georgia. So he wants to ride on that
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  Speaker 1: Stone Mountain. See, I'm a promoter. See that's what I do.
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  Speaker 1: See he's brilliant at this chest and changing your life.
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  Speaker 1: And now tell us about your website. The name your
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  Speaker 1: website so we can go there and get some information there.
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  Speaker 1: You gonna be someone dot org. It's a website I
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  Speaker 1: though Aprilham had failed eight times from the public office,
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  Speaker 1: he took those two words be someone and became sixteen
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  Speaker 1: our young people to be someone. Be all God created
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  Speaker 1: you to be and never settled for less than you
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  Speaker 1: can be. Wow. So you used to use a quick
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: example of failure overcoming failure, And that's really what it's about. Really,
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  Speaker 1: I know that when I go through my life, when
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I go through life, I always tell my daughter, look,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I have failed in life. I would remind her I
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  Speaker 1: I If you go through my college transcript, you might
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: see my name on different plaques around the University of
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Houston and all that stuff. You might see my name
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: on scholarship programs and and being honored. I have an
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• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and that's important to let people know that there is failure,
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  Speaker 1: but failure doesn't need It's not the way to stop you.
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  Speaker 1: Will not stop you if you unless you give you power.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what you're just saying all the time. Every
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  Speaker 1: time I talk to you, check me. Every time I
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: talk to you, you always talking about moving forward, moving forward,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: taking the next step up the stairways, you know, not
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: ever stopping. But people stop themselves all the time. And
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: it makes me mad. Exactly if I would say, a
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  Speaker 1: good man will fall down seven times, get back up
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  Speaker 1: eight So make it okay to fail There's no such
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: thing as failures, only information, and every master was one
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  Speaker 1: of disaster. Failure makes you better. I went to the
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  Speaker 1: To the World Open, and I lost my first game
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I went there, I lost my second game, lost my third,
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  Speaker 1: lost eighth straight game. And but that's okay. It makes
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: me better. And what are they to beat me? I played?
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I went back and I said okay, and he beat me,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: and I thought okay, and I beat him the next time.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I came back and I realized that fairier makes you better,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, and you got to embrace Fairier. Every
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  Speaker 1: disappointment is a blessing. Life. This game is fixed. This
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  Speaker 1: in your favorite. Every disappointment is a blessing. Every disappointment
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: put you on the right path to where you need
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  Speaker 1: to be. Oprah Winfrey beat out Um. Oprah Winfrey was beating.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, her name is Um. What's the
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• 58:50
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• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I lost that. I had to get that, I had
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: to get better and go back. So but but Monica Parison,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I love her and I was on her show. She
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: beat out Jane Pauli and Oprah Wortha. So everybody's gonna
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: fail embrace failure. Failure is your friends. Well, I would
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: tell you this. Monica Pearson is uh the very popular
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  Speaker 1: anchorwoman in Atlanta, Georgia. See, I gotta talk to checkmate
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  Speaker 1: On the here he acts like we ain't own National
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  Speaker 1: or nothing like that. So I gotta gotta clear up
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  Speaker 1: a lot of his conversation. Let everybody you know, you know,
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• 59:40
  Speaker 1: just don't know you should be throwing out that information.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, ABC is in Atlanta, Georgia. So when you
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: say all these success stories, and I'm gonna just tell
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: people this, failure is the best motivation in the world.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: But what you cannot do with failure is accepted as
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: a final choice, your final option, and whenever I talk
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: to you, and this is about businesses that open wrong.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: They fail because they don't do what they're supposed to.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: They don't plan like you're talking about in the game.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm just letting you guys know that when I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: bring guests like or and on my show, you might go,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: you're talking about chess. They've got nothing to do with me.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: It does. It's about planning. It's about seeing the thoughts out,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: not making the first move, thinking through the thought process,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: understanding that these patterns for success have to be worked out,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: they have to be detailed. If you fail, don't walk
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: away thinking it's the end of the world. That is
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: what this interview is about. It's about recognizing patterns of recognition. Amy,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I'm trying Or, I'm trying to get them there, man,
• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: techniques getting all the time because of the pattern. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the main pattern to put money in anybody. If you're
• 1:00:51
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• 1:00:54
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• 1:00:56
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:15
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: And the sooner you give, the sooner you get to have. Well,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: I tell you that's what money making conversations all about.
• 1:01:27
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  Speaker 1: I want to thank you as always, you're regular on
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: my show, you know that now, and I want to
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: thank you for you say nice things about me and all.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: But more important, I want to thank you for being
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: a giver because you understand the principles of success are
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: tied to how much you give, not how much you take.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Correct exactly, be a service, sir people. Jesus said, Uh,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: if you want to be great, you gotta be a giver,
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• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: them all. So, sir people, give first, give and advance
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  Speaker 1: And then also December twenty one, I'm gonna be doing
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: a free workshop, free food, free parking, free training, getting
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: a game like this chest and not checkers. My cat
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: can play checkers, so we gotta change the game. I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: am a game changer. Remember, brother, I'll talk to you soon,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: my friend. We'll be right back with more money making conversations. Hi,
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  Speaker 1: next interview on money making conversation. My next guest is
• 1:03:55
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  Speaker 1: my man, you know we just used at the house yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking about business plans, so you know we'd
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: be in the mix on a regular basis about this business.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: So before we get started. You know, you have a
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: very successful business called big says Bob Q. How was
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: it affected by Hurricane Harvey? Um? We was. We was
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: uh hurt tremendously. Um. Actually, Uh, the whole trailer was
• 1:04:33
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• 1:04:41
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• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: my whole trailer. Now what did you do smart here
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: in this whole process? You know, what were smart things
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: that you did to help you to recover? First of all, um,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I would like you know, thanks to God, without him
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: learning this would be possible. Um, well to you as
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: being my mentor. I gave you a call first, you know,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: and uh, because I didn't know what to turn about.
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  Speaker 1: It took me nearly two weeks to realize that A,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: you know what you're in a situation. You know you've
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: been a victim of this disaster as well. So I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: reached out to you. But you gave me some great
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: ideas and points and uh I wanted to head and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: apply for the SBA loan, right, but you did something
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: smart before that. You had insurance. Oh yes, most definitely
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I had insurance. Anybody, if you're going into a business,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: you want to protect your assets, you know, And that's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: one thing that I wanted to do is to take
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: my access assets. Had insurance, which uh I was covering
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: on that. So I'm just at the waiting period right now.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Uh you know how my case is going to resolve
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: at the end. But also but you're not waiting. That's
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: why you also apply for the SBA Disaster loan. Correct,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: yesdir I did. I thought for that because I didn't
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: know this this this process is gonna take this long.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Uh just took some lester steps. Uh just just think
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  Speaker 1: taste just to give my process lowing, because it's not
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: I'll just be sitting here waiting and nothing never happened. Yeah,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: So it means being proactive is the key in this conversation. Correct,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: almost definitely. You have to. You can't just stop and
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: just give up. You got to keep on pushing, uh
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: because you have people out there that's uh looking forward
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: to who wash your products, So you've got to keep
• 1:06:35
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• 1:06:39
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• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: brought the jams, and he brought heat fried turkey. Now
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• 1:07:17
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• 1:07:19
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• 1:07:28
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• 1:07:33
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  Speaker 1: me with alternative good food. I want the food that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, manna get that potato salad. I'm gonna
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: get them big bees. I'm gonna get that white bread.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't bring the white bread. Evening the white brad.
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  Speaker 1: I was jocoling looking at him, but you know, the
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  Speaker 1: beautiful wife was there. My wife was there, so I sustained.
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  Speaker 1: His business partner, Cmo was there, so I sustained myself
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  Speaker 1: and kept calm. But I'm gonna tell you something. You
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  Speaker 1: come by my house one more time and you don't
• 1:08:06
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• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: then that potato salad that I don't know how you
• 1:08:12
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• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: and you know, with the with the crust, and then
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  Speaker 1: ribs and that link. And then boy, your wife and
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  Speaker 1: told you how to do that chicken. Now your wife
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  Speaker 1: had told you I'll do that chicken. Now, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: telling y'all, folks, I'm a dreamland. But he can't bring
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  Speaker 1: nothing about my house yesterday. He can bring nothing. But
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  Speaker 1: so let's talk about these defried turkeys that you got
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  Speaker 1: coming out for the month of nove But tell us
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  Speaker 1: about that because that's awesome because I ate some of
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  Speaker 1: it yesterday. Well, I mean, yes, uh, you got right
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  Speaker 1: now you can pre order, uh, go to website, to
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  Speaker 1: the pre order online uh from fried turkey or smoked turkey,
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  Speaker 1: uh with the turkey being ejected with butter occasion injection.
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  Speaker 1: So right now we're just we're pushing the turkeys for
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  Speaker 1: the holidays. We know that's coming up, and we just
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of people are busy, too busy to
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  Speaker 1: do things, and we want to bring that traditional wonderful
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  Speaker 1: bird onto your your table for your family. And you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about anything. Now. If you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to go to the website, call this number seven
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  Speaker 1: one three five three zero to six eight. That's seven
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  Speaker 1: one three five three zero eight to six eight. Then
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  Speaker 1: inquiry about you know, deep fried turkey. You know, don't
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  Speaker 1: you go out there outside your house drop that turkey
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  Speaker 1: in there and they fall over and burn down your
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  Speaker 1: house or your scald the dog or you or they
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  Speaker 1: fall on your feet and then you cripple for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of your life because you're out there trying to
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  Speaker 1: defied turkey. I've seen it all happen. Just go to
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  Speaker 1: the website type in deep fried turkey disasters and it's
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  Speaker 1: like a show of ignorance. And so this man is
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  Speaker 1: a professional. So for you jump out there and just
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  Speaker 1: try to inject these God, this is a man. I
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  Speaker 1: know more people people listen to me, or I could
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  Speaker 1: do that myself. Be over there, gotta be in one
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  Speaker 1: hand and ten gallons of hot grease, peanut all grease
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  Speaker 1: and the other and then set it outside. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of on some dirt. So really, if that, if that,
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  Speaker 1: if that, if that, if they wait hits a little
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  Speaker 1: sauce spot, they're gonna start leaning, so they ain't gonna
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  Speaker 1: notice the lean. Or if they knows the lean, it's
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  Speaker 1: all good. It's all good until somebody walked by there bumpet,
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  Speaker 1: then the turkey and the ground. You got dirt on
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  Speaker 1: the turkey. But what they're gonna do. They're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: the water holes and try to clean off the turkey. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is what you do at Big six. You call
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  Speaker 1: Big six Barbecue and he's gonna take care of you.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the number. One more time seven one three five
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  Speaker 1: three zero eight two sixty eight. Now I want to
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  Speaker 1: just let everybody know. I brought up the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you remember you are you always will be a member.
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  Speaker 1: You're veteran or United States Army and so. But you
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  Speaker 1: have something called or disabled veteran own small business. What
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  Speaker 1: exactly is that? Uh, that's that's correct, um UM certified
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  Speaker 1: the service disabled own small business. Basically, it means that
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  Speaker 1: I can have, uh, I'm to have government contracts, anything
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  Speaker 1: you that's involved with the government to do. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what you're headed in your life, you know, just as
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: a small business to be able to start expanding. You
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  Speaker 1: you got one trailer. You're gonna get past this here
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  Speaker 1: A K. Harvey. You know, we gotta plan we get
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  Speaker 1: past this and when you get back up, trailer gonna
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  Speaker 1: be brand new. When is the trailer gonna open up?
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  Speaker 1: Any time frame? Yes, sir, we're looking at the time
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  Speaker 1: frame or DC. Do you sent the thirteenth to be
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  Speaker 1: reopened back at UPO seven Highways six We're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: reopened then as well. In uh, January two th eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna do a grand opening and if people want
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  Speaker 1: to follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, they can
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: and keep up in the loop. What's going on with
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  Speaker 1: Big six Barbecue. So let men ask you this. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you would preferred vendor. I'm gonna ask you a question
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  Speaker 1: that you preferred vendor for the Houston Texas. Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: we we are. We are preferred vendor for the Houston
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  Speaker 1: Texas football games. Um, we're We're set up right there
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  Speaker 1: on the blue lights when the aster Doome in the
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  Speaker 1: n RG Stadium in the College of the Sandfest which
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  Speaker 1: people can bring the family, uh there and enjoy some
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: activities before they go into the game and get some
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  Speaker 1: reasonable prices for their food. Now you just said that
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: like that was just like everybody got a little place
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  Speaker 1: out there. So I'm gonna get on you just like
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  Speaker 1: I got on Orang Hutton when he was Holly Night,
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  Speaker 1: Jane Fonding, Tyler Perry just to Houston Texas. Now you
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  Speaker 1: preferred vendor Big Six, BOBBYE qu little O my nephew,
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  Speaker 1: United States Army Vedomer. Yeah, preferred vendor, your preferred vendor
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  Speaker 1: for the Houston Texas. This true? Blessing and what's that
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  Speaker 1: number again? They gotta call and get them them defied
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  Speaker 1: turkeys that you inject with that butter, and that if
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  Speaker 1: they want the butter, they get the occasion injection to
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  Speaker 1: come on now, Yes, sir, the number is seven one three,
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  Speaker 1: five zero eight to six eight. And like I said,
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  Speaker 1: you can go to the website as well and play
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  Speaker 1: pre order, place your order for the turkeys and that
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  Speaker 1: I want to thank you, agous. I'm gonna see you
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  Speaker 1: this weekend coming up because we gotta get this plan
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  Speaker 1: in place for this reopening, get these budgets together. Everything
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  Speaker 1: is awesome. I love you. I'm proud of you. Hey man,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: you know but you know, if you come by my
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  Speaker 1: house next weekend, okay, you know what you got to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: have my little nephew. If you don't have that, I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: don't have a dog, but I'm gonna find somebody's dog
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  Speaker 1: in the neighborhood and sick them on you. All right.
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  Speaker 1: I love you, man, Stay strong again, Big six Barbeque.
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  Speaker 1: trying to get He wants you to call him right now.
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  Speaker 1: Hey brother, you stay strong. We talked next week. Bless you,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: my friend. Cool. Hi, This ra Sean McDonald. Welcome back
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  Speaker 1: guest today, I'm excited. I'm excited about all my guests.
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  Speaker 1: But in the literary world, you know, I'm all right,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sitcom right. So that is nowhere close to
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: what these two people do. And they are power couple.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: When I say power couple, New York Times labeled them
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: as the most successful literary couple in America, and they're
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: doing everything to maintain that type. Please welcome to money
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  Speaker 1: making conversation Ashley and Jaquavers col Hey, how you doing?
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  Speaker 1: My brother to be off? First of all, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: because you know I read the book until I read
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  Speaker 1: the book, The Cartail seven Round Table of the Bosses.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing about it is that, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to quiz me, you know you can quiz me.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: You know you don't know about C. J. Mole. You
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: know we can't go in details, but I know, Breeze,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: you tell him. I tell what they've been when them
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: in jail. I can tell you about the Dominican Republic.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out some stuff to let them know.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I know, you know what I'm saying. You know, you
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: wanna talk about that drug, I wanna talk about my
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: man goes Hey, don't don't don't don't go that with me.
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  Speaker 1: Let y'all know, I did my homework and the and
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  Speaker 1: the beauty of the book I'm gonna tell you about
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: because uh I got the book, you know, on Saturday,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: and I read it all day Sunday and it was
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: a good read. It was a good read. And I
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: want to before we even get into detail about the book,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: I'll just read this this statement that I pulled offline
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  Speaker 1: about the book. The sag of Love, Loyalty, and Crime
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  Speaker 1: continues in the next explosive book in the Cartel series,
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  Speaker 1: from the minds of New York Times bestselling authors Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and to Quaalus. After the Tragic and Blooded into the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Cartel's reign, Carter is forced into isolation to evade to law.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: With his wife facing federal charges and his dear brother
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: six ft under, Carter has never been more alone, his
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: empire at his feet, and there's no idea how to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: rebuild his kingdom. The only thing that is certain is
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: that he has to stay out of the way and
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  Speaker 1: off the radar of the fads until he can, Until
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: he can figure out how to get his lady out
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: of prison. Her freedom is guaranteed. Provided car to help
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  Speaker 1: create and distribute a drug that would take the streets
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  Speaker 1: by storm. Rubbing elbows with the most notorious, ruthless leaders
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: of the underworld will get him what he wants, but
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: he can win it. But he doesn't know whether he
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: can win the game of murder or money. That's what
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  Speaker 1: this book about. See see see I'm gonna teach you
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  Speaker 1: The reason I read that because I'm a fan of
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: knockles have Have y'all seen that? Seriously? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: come on now see see see. So you know when
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: I read this book May, I was going, man, y'all, yeah,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: y'all been okay, first of all, I'm a I'm a
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: look site. Let me calm down, let's start. Let's let's
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: start from again. In Flip, Michigan. You know you fifteen?
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  Speaker 1: You sixteen? Was the police stop you? Okay? Harassing you? Now? Astley,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: you noticed this, You see all this going down? The
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: police accused you of dealing in drugs? Correct Quavers? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: they was on me. I was actually surfing the undercover
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: agent for about two weeks. So um yeah, it was
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: the open play for the underplay. They were setting me
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: up now now but it was all wrong. But so
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: after they let you go, Ashley, you called him correct, Yeah,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: he talked his package in my bushes and I thought,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: so I went and got it out of the bushes
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: before the police searched them, and then I called him.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: We had a mutual friend, right right, right, It's just
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: like a book. We actually used this, I know, you know,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: I know all that get to my interview. I got
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: my research on both of y'all. I'm not gonna come
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: on this show and act like I don't know who
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to. Man, we appreciated my brother. But listen, Maye,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: just it started the union that would last. Well. We
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: we've been together with sixteen years. Man, Um, I was
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: running from the cops, man, and she literally saved my life. Man.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: She you know, she threw I'm sorry when I threw
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: what I had in the bushes. Man, she she picked
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: it up and she put it up for me for later.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: So you know, we're from from Michigan, Rashaan Man, So
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: that means, you know, loyalty has to be earned. But
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: I don't love this girl because within the first day
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: I met her, she showed me loyalty and that's something
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: that I wasn't used to. You know that that kind
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: of started the friendship and that friendship maturity into a relationship,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: and then later that relationship Um turned into a partnership.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Man together, you know, we were families. You know. It's interesting,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: you know that because you know, you guys from Flip Michigan,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: that's basically an inner city, and they come out of
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: that with with with a with a strong literary sense,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: you know, because I. You know, I tell people like,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: you know, when I came out of high school, you know,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: I was an honor student, and I took all honors classes,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: but I didn't really care about English. And I remember
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: when I went to college, I had to take remedial
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: English to qualify because I didn't care. I didn't care.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know the subject her now and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know the sequence of what would make a sentence and
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: a preposition and all those things because I didn't realize
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: the importance of it. And that's why, that's why it's
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: important when I hear you guys in along the way.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: In in middle school, english and literacy was important because,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: like I said, when I was in middle school, I read,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I read I read uh uh Lord of
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  Speaker 1: the Rings when I was in middle school, and that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: book was like nine hundred pages. And so I I
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: say that to say that you guys play an important role.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons I brought you on
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: the show and I hopefully become friends and just constantly
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: communicated on a regular basis, because it's important that reading
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: really is fundamental, man, absolutely absolutely, and telling stories that
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: you guys are telling. That's why I want to let
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: everybody know that, yeah, I'm a sitcom writer. You guys
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: are true storytellers. And that's really important because when I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: was reading the book from the opening when they're on
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: the private jet and you know, I'm not gonna tell
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: a story because we were trying to sell books. We're
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: not trying to give away the book, you know, you know,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: but all those things I'm just telling you guys, when
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: you read their books and they got they got an
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: interesting style because they do transitional time frames. You know,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: you've been this time period, and then they're a key
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: back to to tell you the journey how that moment
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: came up to this point and and it's really interesting.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: How did you guys develop your writing style? Um? Well,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I firmly believe that being a writer, you can't be
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: a writer without being a reader first. So I first
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: state was actually out of Borders about a Borders book stores. Right,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: that's a prerecordisite. You have to fall in love with
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: storytelling in general, and through doing that, we both really
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: love to read as young kids. So through doing that,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: we wanted to write stories that people could relate to,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: that people could find in just okay, when we were
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: young there were no stories or characters that looked like us,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: that sounded like us, or that we're from the areas
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: that we wanted to change that landscape in literature. So
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: now we're writing, we're forty books in. We've contributed space
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: on the shelves by African American people for African American people.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Right right, I was reading this article. I've took some
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: be I thought there's some very important articles. There's just
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: New York Times magazine article written in urban fiction or
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: streetlet has been snubbed by the publishing industry and scorned
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: by the black intellectuals. Yet these authors may just be
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: the most successful literary couple in America. So when I
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: write that, when I say that because I know as
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: a writer, as an entertainer, people can make judgment on
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: people and don't even know the the end goal and
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: end goal is about writing creative concepts and storylines that
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: are relatable. Isn't that correct? Yeah? Absolutely? Man? See is
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: I love to use that analogy like the roles that
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: grows from concrete. When a person or a black intellectual
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: looks at this roles and they see all the torn
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: pedals and the thorns, they look at it as that
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: like this ugly rose, but they do not take into
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: the acount of tenacity of that role to grow through
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: that concrete. And it's a reason why it has those
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: broken pedals and thorns. And that's how we look at
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: our style of writing. They look at it like it's
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: something that's but needs a literature, but it's not. It's
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: where we came from. We're products of our environment and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: we made it beautiful. Like at first they talked about it,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: but then they began to like give us accolaides and
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: honor what we was doing. That was the plan from
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: the beginning. Man, there you go. We kept on putting
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: out quality product um and kept on being consistent and
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: those frowns begin to turn into collapse. And um, that's
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: where we're at now. Man. We're thirty two years old. Man,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: and wow, and we made history. Man, We're gonna keep
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: on home making it. You know, I'm gonna tell you something.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the black intellectual else, but I
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: am a black intellectual. If there's a club out there,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: every shot McDonald's in that club. Okay, you know I
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: got in me sitting on the shell, I got I
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: got image Awards sitting on my shell. I just sold
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: four million books for Harpercollus. I didn't put two blockbuster
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: movies in the theater. I'm gonna tell you'll, some young people,
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  Speaker 1: don't ever let nobody tell you who you are. Don't
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  Speaker 1: football game on Sunday because because I'm gonna just tell
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep telling everybody because now I gotta go
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  Speaker 1: back and read the series now because it's interesting in
• 1:25:49
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  Speaker 1: middle school, I read, read, read, and then when I
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  Speaker 1: got out of the middle school, I was just running
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• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: you guys have brought me back into the phone with
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  Speaker 1: this book. Man, we love it. Man. That that means
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  Speaker 1: so much. We really appreciate you taking up the time
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  Speaker 1: and really just understanding our writing and reading it. Man.
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  Speaker 1: That means the world. Say I would just tell you something,
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  Speaker 1: New York Times and label them as the most successful
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  Speaker 1: literary couple in America. And they're doing everything and a
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  Speaker 1: hold up that matter on the phone with Astling and
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  Speaker 1: Joe Cravers Cola, you guys back, Yeah, I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about this right quick. It was read just about
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  Speaker 1: this deal you guys have. You have a deal your
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  Speaker 1: side with Warner Brothers Studio at NBC Universe to develop
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  Speaker 1: television projects. And you also agreed to an audio exclusive
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: deal with Audible, a company owned by Amazon dot Com,
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  Speaker 1: a deal that's the first of his kind with fiction writers. Okay,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: I got now talk to me about that. Uh, well
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: you quite this, maw. We're forty books in so we're
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: just looking for new ways to tell stories. It was
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: a UM expected progression for us to move into television
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: and films. Absolutely when l A, we just found a
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: world of opportunities that we're just creatives out there that
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: we're willing to partner with us to our stories to
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: the screen. Um. We were very lucky to link up
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: with Warner Brothers and Universal Cable Productions to create two
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: television shows. So we're bringing our content to the siver
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: screen where we're able to tell the types of stories
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: that we want to tell with people that look like us.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: So we're very very fortunate to become in as executive producers,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: not as UM staff writers. In the room, we're controlling
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: the type of shows that we're shaping. There you go
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: right there. That's all I wanted to hear the word
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: control because I'm gonna tell you something. People out there,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: you know, I get frustrated when super talented people see
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: you guys like you see you throw that number out
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: there forty like it was nothing. You really need to
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: stop talking to me, Ashley. You we cain't talk no more.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: If we fought the books in in, you know, and
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: we went to Hollywood and thought we'd find some new
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: avenues to express our vision. But you said control because
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: it's important because people see things a certain way, and
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: because they're writers, they don't have the life experience. And
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: if if you hold onto anything, hold onto your name
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: and your brand. Because I'm gonna tell you something I've
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: been an executively do so I've been a writer, I
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: should always tell us to Steve Harvey. As a Steve,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: I can get a job the next day. If your
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: show get counsel, if your show get else, your name
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: is tarnished. So always know this is that your brand.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: It's what got you there. And if you don't respect
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: it and control it. And I don't care what names
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: they call you, I don't they kill you, y'all jerks,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: y'all asses or whatever. You control your image, man, because
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: they will get a job someplace else and they don't
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: even know you. I'm gonna just tell you. The writers
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: who come on the show, they don't know you. They
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: may have read a half a book, read a little
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: clip from a New York Times article, went in there, pitched,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: and then on your show based on some other work.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: They did on other dramas. So your brand control is important.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: Hit me on that, absolutely, that's excellent advice. And learn
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: how to direct too. Okay, that way you can knock
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: that direct out of that chair and you start directing
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: and controlling your whole bread. Because you guys have something special.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: And the reason I say that because when I read,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: uh the Cartel seven, I just saw the whole series.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: You know you guys right, so good man, It's like
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I just I just saw. I just felt like every
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: chapter was another episode you feel me, and so it
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: was like every episode it was like because I'm a
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: big fan of you know, I'm gonna just tell you
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: this when Power came out, and I'm not trying to
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: compare what you do the Power, but that it's that
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: gritty genre, you know what I'm saying where a show
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: like that wasn't supposed to make it on TV because
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: she was like that in the past, ain't made it
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: on TV. And I'll be perfectly honest, when they told
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: me fifty six was tied to it, I turned my friend, go,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: this ain't gonna make it. This ain't I ain't gonna
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: watch this crap. I am the biggest Power fan you
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: can find because in the end, this is why I
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: know you guys can be successful with this, because your
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: series is about family. Your series is really about parody
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: and that emotion. If you look at Narckles, the series,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: that's just about family. If you look Get, if you
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: look at the series with Power, that's really about two
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: parents who are making mistakes, really trying to take care
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: of their family. Just happen to be drug dealers, just
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  Speaker 1: have to be drug dealers. There ain't no different to
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  Speaker 1: somebody that IBM. Ain't nobody different somebody Amazon dot com.
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  Speaker 1: It's just that their lifestyle little bit interest because they
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  Speaker 1: kill people, they beat up people, rough them up. That's
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: all y'all do. But that's that's the that's the enlightening part.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: That's why I know you own to something special. The
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: thing I think is even bigger opportunity for you guys
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: is that audio booking, because man, that digital platform, y'all
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: will own a team. And I'm not just talking just
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: to the urban culture. Y'all will own it with everybody
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: because the read if you get I'm just so excited
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: for y'all man, because I read your book and I
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: feel honored man, that I got to read something that
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: excited me as a as a guy in the creative space.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: You guys got it going on. Man, you guys really
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: got it going on. And if nobody has read your book,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: please read your book because it is a joy, It
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: is a journey, it is a is a is a
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: what was it? A force of nature? Literary nature that
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: y'all putting out there on a regular basis. Man, y'all
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: doing it. Man, y'all doing it. Thank you, thank you,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: thank you. Man. We really appreciate it. Man, Because you know,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan of audio books. I don't know how
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: they're gonna do these books. Uh, they're just gonna read
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: the books. How they're gonna do the audio books, how
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: they're gonna do well. When um Audible approached us for
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: this new and innovative way to tell stories, they wanted
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: to be um different from audio books. Wanted to from
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: like a theatrical field. There you go, now you go,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: Now you go, boy, boy, stop talking to me, Stop
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: talking to me. To stop talking to me. Brother, that's
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: how you're do it. You hear the door open up,
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  Speaker 1: You hear a gun fire pile, you hear the slap pile.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: How when they ain't crashed. You hear the crash boom
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  Speaker 1: when they step out to the south. You're the running
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: water cut off. That's right, that's right, brother, brother, put
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  Speaker 1: that deal together for us, man, And you know we're
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna make a movie for your ears, man, man,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: because see I grew up. Man. I'm gonna tell you something, man,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: when I put together to Steve Harvey Radio franchise, I'm
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: a fan of of of old school radio, you know,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: back in the day when you have a radio and
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: everybody will sit around the radio and they hear them
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: old stories, hit a symbol and all that stuff. That's
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: the radio that you guys are about to do for
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: the millennials. Absolutely, absolutely, and I can't wait to the
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: world here this man. I'm really about to just give them,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: you know, just bring back the theater of the mind.
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  Speaker 1: Hey man, Hey, brother, you understand what you're about to do.
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  Speaker 1: I know you know because you already visionary both for y'all.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Y'all been y'all been together our fifteen sixteen years old.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: God put you all together. She saw you made that
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: phone call. Y'all be together doing the right forty books here.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: But I'm telling you on this digital side. It could
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  Speaker 1: be in Spanish, being Russian, being French, Japanese. Absolutely, I'm
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: telling you all of them got criminals in their lives. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: come on Spanish. I'll just tell y'all something. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: happy I knew y'all wining. That's all because I know
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: next year this time I'm gonna say, can I get
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: them back on the show where they gotta check their scared?
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  Speaker 1: They gotta check that scared because you know they big
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  Speaker 1: na you know. Because I'll tell you something, man, I
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  Speaker 1: please do me a favor when when you when you launch,
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  Speaker 1: when you launch, your your your climb, because I'm more
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: excited than the TV. I got the TV, but that
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: that digital front with the audio audio books, man, that's
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: a special special opportunity. I knew what the impact that
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: the audios had on the Steve Harvey books when we
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: when when we did the audio books, they went through
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• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: want to drive around, they want to just listen. They
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: don't have time to be reading. But they took an
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: these long trips or they're on the airplane. I just
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: want to just sit around the house outside and listen
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: and y'all gonna do the books that I'm asking you
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: guys to do. And you already said, Rashane, you need
• 1:35:36
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