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Interview of the Week: Dr. Simone Whitmore is a Board Certified OB-GYN talks about starring on Bravo’s “Married to Medicine” · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: My next guest is Dr Simone Whitmore. She's a board
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  Speaker 1: well some of the co stars or stars or Dr
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  Speaker 1: Jaqueline of course of miss Dr Whitmore, Dr Heavily, who's
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  Speaker 1: She's a fashion block up but she's married to doctor.
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  Speaker 1: Dr Simone Whitmore is on my show to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the season that she's experience personally as well, and the
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  Speaker 1: for the very first time, and I'm happy to have
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  Speaker 1: her on the show. Dr Simone with more. How are
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  Speaker 1: you doing I'm doing excellent and thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for having me. First of all, thank you for coming
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  Speaker 1: on the show. And uh, you know, the reality shows
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  Speaker 1: at one time would consider I thought it would be
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  Speaker 1: a fad. I thought they wouldn't last. And at one
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  Speaker 1: time there was really out of control. They were physically
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  Speaker 1: out of control and a lot of a lot of noise,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of custom, a lot of fussing, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of drink throwing. And you decided to a being a
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  Speaker 1: certified doctor into this room. What what drove you or
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  Speaker 1: what was the motivation behind being a part of marriage
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  Speaker 1: to medicine. The reason I was willing to film reality
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  Speaker 1: I came from an alcoholic dad, a single mom, and
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  Speaker 1: of you, and that this is not a negative interview.
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  Speaker 1: These are just basic questions and that I'm just probing
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  Speaker 1: it ever become an issue with the people that you are?
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  Speaker 1: know who I am. I may say a little mild
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  Speaker 1: cuss word in the office trying to be funny, and
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  Speaker 1: my patients understand me. When I came to reality TV,
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  Speaker 1: I came as my authentic self, no more, no less,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I love medicine, I love O B
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  Speaker 1: that laugh out lot in public? So in your says,
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  Speaker 1: m D. After my name, but it's not on my
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  Speaker 1: birth certificate. It does not define who I am. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a wife, I'm a mother, I'm a sister, I'm a girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: And again, life is a out being well rounded. My
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  Speaker 1: dad always taught me that be well rounded. Well, you
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  Speaker 1: know the thing I got that impression of you, uh
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  Speaker 1: and the first episode of the eight season, which I
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  Speaker 1: did get a chance to see because I want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure I was caught up to speed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: where the characters were being developed, and first of the
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  Speaker 1: first basically the first episode is your episode. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: you joked off air and said, you know you start
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  Speaker 1: why not? And so it ended with you and you
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  Speaker 1: and you're Jackie. Still got issues, heavenly got issues. You know,
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  Speaker 1: your son about to go off to college. But I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was a real tender moment in there, your
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  Speaker 1: gonna get to Heavenly in a minute. But I want
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  Speaker 1: So I again, I come to reality TV as my
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  Speaker 1: each other a very long time, and of all the
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't want to make up just for TV's sake.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just asking now. I don't know that, I'm just asking,
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  Speaker 1: So what is makeup for TV sake versus having a
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  Speaker 1: it be off camera between you and jack Um? It
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  Speaker 1: you've shown that. Now heavenly? How is heavenly? She was
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  Speaker 1: my friend of twenty three years decided she didn't have
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  Speaker 1: not able to do all of the visits using telemedicine.
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  Speaker 1: Surely we did some, but not all. And what I
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  Speaker 1: payroll for the full forty hours a week. But again,
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  Speaker 1: just looking for resources out there, there were a ton
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  Speaker 1: have been married for twenty five years and he has
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  Speaker 1: definitely been a great sounding board when I asked him
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