Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Tragedy & Hope in Texas-On the Ground in the Aftermath of Historic & Horrific Floods
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict was Center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
- 0:04Speaker 1: with you. Traditionally you hear the show on Monday, Wednesday,
- 0:07Speaker 1: and Friday. We are coming to you on Tuesday. After
- 0:11Speaker 1: the just tragic flooding in Texas the centers. You've been
- 0:16Speaker 1: down there with the people in Currville and the surrounding
- 0:20Speaker 1: area's comfort. This is action an area that I spend
- 0:24Speaker 1: a ton of time with my family at the Ranch,
- 0:27Speaker 1: and it has hit very close to home for us.
- 0:30Speaker 1: We also have friends who lost a daughter in this
- 0:35Speaker 1: flooding at the Christian camp that so many have talked
- 0:40Speaker 1: about and you've seen in the media, and it is
- 0:43Speaker 1: just so sad and devastating to know that there are
- 0:47Speaker 1: people that are going to be going to that little
- 0:48Speaker 1: girl's funeral on Friday, and to see what it has
- 0:51Speaker 1: done in Houston to people that knew so many that
- 0:54Speaker 1: we were there. You were down there, and it is
- 0:57Speaker 1: obviously sad, but it is also encouraged to see so
- 1:00Speaker 1: many people coming together, so many Texans coming together, so
- 1:03Speaker 1: many people rallying around these families, and it's just horrific time.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Well, Ben, you and I are recording this at twelve
- 1:12Speaker 2: thirty six am Monday night, and I spent the entire
- 1:15Speaker 2: day in the Hill Country starting at six am this morning,
- 1:19Speaker 2: and I visited with families who were grieving. I went
- 1:25Speaker 2: to Camp Mystic and saw firsthand the devastation. I will
- 1:30Speaker 2: tell you, there are not words to describe just how
- 1:34Speaker 2: much Texas is hurting. This is across the state and
- 1:40Speaker 2: across the country. People are grieving. They're grieving for the
- 1:43Speaker 2: moms and dads, this flooding. I'll tell you, In my
- 1:47Speaker 2: thirteen years in the Senate, I've seen a lot of
- 1:51Speaker 2: natural disasters, hurricanes and tornadoes and wildfires, and it's always difficult.
- 1:56Speaker 2: But this was something really different what happened in the
- 2:03Speaker 2: Hill Country. Right now, the fatality count it is over
- 2:09Speaker 2: one hundred. It is expected to keep growing.
- 2:13Speaker 3: Uh.
- 2:14Speaker 2: They are still searching for and finding bodies right now,
- 2:19Speaker 2: can't Mystic. We know of twenty seven kids and counselors
- 2:24Speaker 2: who lost their lives in the flooding. There are an
- 2:27Speaker 2: additional ten more girls and one more counselor who are missing,
- 2:32Speaker 2: and so there are search and rescue teams that are
- 2:35Speaker 2: searching for them right now. Obviously, every hour every day
- 2:39Speaker 2: that goes by the the the odds of a happy
- 2:45Speaker 2: outcome go down, but we are certainly praying that that
- 2:51Speaker 2: those those eleven girls are found safe and sound. You know,
- 3:00Speaker 2: I want to tell folks a little bit about what
- 3:03Speaker 2: what has happened on the ground and where this is.
- 3:05Speaker 2: So if you're if you're not from Texas, the Hill
- 3:08Speaker 2: Country is in central Texas. It's the center central part
- 3:11Speaker 2: of the state and and it is I think the
- 3:15Speaker 2: most beautiful part of the state. And I think most
- 3:17Speaker 2: most Texans agree with that. Uh. There are rolling hills, Uh,
- 3:22Speaker 2: there are beautiful rivers, and in particular Kerr County, there
- 3:30Speaker 2: are about forty summer camps. And and there's a long
- 3:34Speaker 2: tradition of camps. It's an incredible tradition that goes back
- 3:38Speaker 2: one hundred years where people went and formed these summer
- 3:41Speaker 2: camps because the natural beauty was so extraordinary that it's
- 3:45Speaker 2: it's it's an incredible place for girls and for boys
- 3:49Speaker 2: uh to come and spend typically a month at a time.
- 3:54Speaker 2: And and Camp mystic Is it's one hundred years old.
- 3:58Speaker 2: It is a Christian girl camp. And I will tell
- 4:02Speaker 2: you Camp mystic Is is really an institution in Texas. Uh.
- 4:08Speaker 2: It is you see families from all across Texas who
- 4:18Speaker 2: at the end of of typically the month long camp
- 4:21Speaker 2: session that that there's a two day closing ceremony and
- 4:27Speaker 2: you'll see grandmothers and moms and daughters, three generations of
- 4:32Speaker 2: Texas women that are there, and and and it is
- 4:36Speaker 2: look for me, this is not abstract. Our girls have
- 4:39Speaker 2: have gone to camp in Hunt in Kirk County, UH
- 4:43Speaker 2: for a decade now. And and and actually just last
- 4:46Speaker 2: week Heidi was there picking up Catherine, our youngest daughter
- 4:51Speaker 2: from camp. And and and so this was literally a
- 4:53Speaker 2: week ago that that my daughter was there. She was
- 4:57Speaker 2: at camp that had been there for a month. And
- 4:59Speaker 2: I'll tell you these camp are they teach girls independence
- 5:07Speaker 2: and responsibility and teamwork. And the friendships that are formed
- 5:13Speaker 2: are lifelong friendships. Catherine's best friend is a girl from
- 5:21Speaker 2: the Rio Grand Valley who she would never have met
- 5:23Speaker 2: going to school and grown up in Houston if it
- 5:25Speaker 2: were not for that camp. And they are absolutely inseparable.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Those sorts of friendships you see at the closing ceremony.
- 5:32Speaker 2: You see women in their seventies and eighties with those
- 5:37Speaker 2: same lifelong friendships. And when this flooding hit, it just
- 5:44Speaker 2: devastated camp Mystic, and not just Camp Mystic, but the
- 5:48Speaker 2: entire region. It was the Fourth of July weekend, and
- 5:52Speaker 2: so you had thousands of thousands of people there celebrating
- 5:56Speaker 2: by the river banks. And the Guadalupe River is this
- 5:58Speaker 2: beautiful river that I have have floated on and swam
- 6:03Speaker 2: in dozens of times. It's a gorgeous river. It's wonderful.
- 6:06Speaker 2: People love to swim in it, vacation in it, canoe
- 6:10Speaker 2: in it, and.
- 6:12Speaker 1: No, it's it's it's part of just the summers in Texas.
- 6:15Speaker 1: That and for people like you mentioned that are outside Texas,
- 6:18Speaker 1: floating the river is just so much fun because you
- 6:21Speaker 1: get I mean these basically they used to be back
- 6:24Speaker 1: in the day, the intertubes of tires. You get these
- 6:26Speaker 1: floats now and you float with your best friends. I
- 6:30Speaker 1: have a friend that actually met his future wife floating
- 6:33Speaker 1: the Guadalupe River. I mean, it's just a community. It's
- 6:37Speaker 1: a slow float, it's very safe. It is something that
- 6:39Speaker 1: you do. We've stayed on that river before, we floated it,
- 6:42Speaker 1: as you mentioned countless times. And on the Fourth of July,
- 6:45Speaker 1: a lot of people go down there camping. You can't
- 6:48Speaker 1: close the river. You bring your rv H and you
- 6:52Speaker 1: do that, and that's what people were doing. As you mentioned,
- 6:54Speaker 1: it was a fourth of July weekend.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Well, and you mentioned RV's the flo flooding. There were
- 7:01Speaker 2: many RVs that were just swept into the river, and
- 7:04Speaker 2: we don't have a count. So I started this morning
- 7:07Speaker 2: by meeting with the mayor and the county judge and
- 7:09Speaker 2: the county commissioners and Texas DPS and the sheriff, and
- 7:13Speaker 2: just getting a report from on the ground. And one
- 7:16Speaker 2: of the challenging things. We have over one hundred confirmed fatalities.
- 7:21Speaker 2: There are a number of bodies that have been discovered,
- 7:24Speaker 2: both adults and kids, that have not been identified yet,
- 7:27Speaker 2: and bodies that have been in the water for an
- 7:29Speaker 2: extended period of time can be difficult to identify visually,
- 7:33Speaker 2: and so they're doing DNA swabs. You know. When this
- 7:38Speaker 2: started happening, it was early in the morning on the
- 7:42Speaker 2: fourth of July. The National Weather Service put out an
- 7:44Speaker 2: emergency warning just after one am. They put out another
- 7:48Speaker 2: emergency warning just after four am, and the waters rose
- 7:53Speaker 2: about thirty feet in less than an hour. Thirty feet
- 7:58Speaker 2: is a lot for an order ordinary calm river to rise. Suddenly,
- 8:02Speaker 2: the flash flood was absolutely devastating. Now, Now, when this
- 8:07Speaker 2: was happening, within hours of the flooding occurring, I was
- 8:12Speaker 2: on the phone speaking with Governor Greg Abbott. I spoke
- 8:17Speaker 2: with Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick. I spoke with Nim Kidd,
- 8:22Speaker 2: who is head of the Texas Department of Emergency Management,
- 8:26Speaker 2: and I called President Trump and I talked to President
- 8:29Speaker 2: Trump on that first day and I said, mister President,
- 8:34Speaker 2: what is happening in Texas? That this is bad. It
- 8:39Speaker 2: is all indications are this is really really serious. There
- 8:43Speaker 2: could be a lot of fatalities. Information was just starting
- 8:47Speaker 2: to come in, so it was it was hazy, but
- 8:49Speaker 2: I said, this could be really really bad. And President Trump,
- 8:54Speaker 2: to his credit, he said, ted, whatever Texas needs, the
- 8:56Speaker 2: answer is yes. Whatever federal assets you need, the answer
- 9:00Speaker 2: is yes. And that I passed on to the state officials,
- 9:03Speaker 2: to the local officials, and I'll tell you, Ben, Within hours,
- 9:07Speaker 2: I was hearing from families. I was hearing from parents
- 9:11Speaker 2: whose daughters weren't mystic and whose daughters were missing and
- 9:15Speaker 2: they were panicked, and they were saying, can you tell
- 9:18Speaker 2: us anything? Can you do you have any information? And
- 9:20Speaker 2: I was connecting them with the local sheriff, with with
- 9:23Speaker 2: emergency management. And look, you and I are both dads.
- 9:31Speaker 2: It is difficult to imagine the panic, the fear, the bewilderment,
- 9:37Speaker 2: everything those moms and dads were feeling as you get
- 9:39Speaker 2: the news that your daughter is missing. And many of
- 9:43Speaker 2: those parents just drove to Central Texas immediately got in
- 9:46Speaker 2: the car and drove. As I told you, we picked
- 9:50Speaker 2: up our daughter last week from right there.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:54Speaker 2: And Catherine said to me, said, well, why would the
- 9:57Speaker 2: dads drive there? And I said, sweetheart, that's just that
- 10:00Speaker 2: what you do if you're if your child has lost,
- 10:02Speaker 2: you just go. You'll move heaven and.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Earth it, just do whatever you can. I mean, this
- 10:10Speaker 1: is the same conversation I have with my boys. And
- 10:13Speaker 1: in the ages here, you know, you see these little
- 10:15Speaker 1: girls that are missing, and one of my wife's high
- 10:20Speaker 1: school friend's daughter is one of those that lost your life.
- 10:23Speaker 1: And having that conversation with your kids or the same age.
- 10:28Speaker 1: My twins are six, they could have been at camp,
- 10:31Speaker 1: and my oldest is eight, could have been at camp.
- 10:34Speaker 1: And you put yourself in that situation of just what
- 10:36Speaker 1: would you do, and you're it's exactly what you just said.
- 10:40Speaker 1: You just go. And there's been I also want people
- 10:43Speaker 1: to understand flooding in this region, because I think there's
- 10:46Speaker 1: been a lot of misinformation, uh nationwide on this, so
- 10:49Speaker 1: that people understand the Hill Country and kind of how
- 10:51Speaker 1: it works. There's a lot of rock in the Hill Country,
- 10:55Speaker 1: and so when it rains, the water doesn't absorb into
- 10:58Speaker 1: the land. It does in most places in the country,
- 11:02Speaker 1: like when we get rain in Houston or when I
- 11:04Speaker 1: lived in Dallas, Like it rains and a lot of
- 11:08Speaker 1: the water goes into the earth, and you don't have
- 11:10Speaker 1: this flash flooding, this massive, quick flooding in the Hill Country.
- 11:15Speaker 1: That's what you get when you get rain. But to
- 11:17Speaker 1: be clear, in this part of the Hill Country, they
- 11:19Speaker 1: don't get a lot of rain. They can go hundreds
- 11:22Speaker 1: of days without rain in this area. And so when
- 11:25Speaker 1: it you know, there's a reality of like when it rains,
- 11:29Speaker 1: the locals know that you're gonna have some flooding in
- 11:31Speaker 1: the low lying areas, and you kind of know where
- 11:33Speaker 1: those areas are and where the bridges are and where
- 11:35Speaker 1: the low areas are in the roadways. This is something
- 11:40Speaker 1: that no one had seen in their lifetime. There had
- 11:43Speaker 1: never been flooding like this in Kerrville or in comfort
- 11:48Speaker 1: the way that we are witnessing it now. And so
- 11:51Speaker 1: there's some people I think out there acting like, well
- 11:52Speaker 1: they should, you know, this is something that happened so common.
- 11:55Speaker 1: I've seen comments like that this was catastrophic. You witness
- 11:59Speaker 1: it today.
- 12:01Speaker 2: Yeah, it was utterly unprecedented. I went up in a
- 12:04Speaker 2: Coastguard helicopter and I flew a significant portion of the
- 12:09Speaker 2: Guadalupe River, and I will tell you just looking at
- 12:13Speaker 2: the devastation. You know, water, when you have a fast
- 12:18Speaker 2: moving wall of water, nothing stands in its way. There
- 12:22Speaker 2: were cars strewn everywhere, and by the way, when a
- 12:25Speaker 2: car is being thrown and it crashes into a tree,
- 12:29Speaker 2: it destroys the car. But there were thousands and thousands
- 12:34Speaker 2: of trees that were just mowed over by the water
- 12:37Speaker 2: because when water hits a tree, water's a lot stronger
- 12:40Speaker 2: than the trees. And the volume of you saw houses
- 12:43Speaker 2: just taking clean off their foundation and swept into the
- 12:49Speaker 2: river that we were talking about r vs. A lot
- 12:52Speaker 2: of people bring ur vs or in mobile homes and look,
- 12:55Speaker 2: if you're going to a campsidey, you know it's a
- 12:56Speaker 2: Fourth of July weekend, it's a great weekend. And the
- 13:00Speaker 2: problem is r v's and mobile homes are particularly vulnerable
- 13:03Speaker 2: in a flood or tornado or other natural disaster, and
- 13:07Speaker 2: so you just had multiple RVs swept into the river.
- 13:10Speaker 2: They don't have a firm count, they don't know how
- 13:12Speaker 2: many people they're looking for because many of the visitors
- 13:15Speaker 2: were not from Kirk County. And we're just there to
- 13:18Speaker 2: celebrate the Fourth of July. Going down flying that helicopter
- 13:25Speaker 2: and just seeing the extent of the devastation was massive.
- 13:35Speaker 2: And look, but I want to say this this, there's
- 13:40Speaker 2: so much grief in Texas. Our hearts are broken right now.
- 13:48Speaker 2: And their families from from Houston, from Dallas, from Austin,
- 13:53Speaker 2: from San Antonio, from every community in Texas and there,
- 13:55Speaker 2: and they're they're campers who come from all over the
- 13:57Speaker 2: country to come to Camp Mystic, but many of them
- 14:00Speaker 2: from cities in Texas, and many of them You and
- 14:03Speaker 2: I know we have multiple friends who've lost children. My
- 14:08Speaker 2: street at home, around the oak tree in our front yard,
- 14:12Speaker 2: we have a big green ribbon for the girls. I
- 14:15Speaker 2: can't miss it. And if you look at tree after tree,
- 14:18Speaker 2: just going up and down our street, they're green ribbons
- 14:21Speaker 2: on tree after tree after tree. But I want to
- 14:28Speaker 2: I want to give some encouragement. Look, this is unbearably
- 14:33Speaker 2: hard and painful for the state, but in the face
- 14:39Speaker 2: of unspeakable pain, there's also unbelievable courage. And there were
- 14:46Speaker 2: over eight hundred and fifty rescues from that river. We
- 14:55Speaker 2: had early on when I got on the phone and
- 14:57Speaker 2: I worked to make sure that there were there were
- 14:58Speaker 2: federal assets. There went over a dozen helicopters in the air.
- 15:01Speaker 2: We had Coast Guard in the air, we had National
- 15:04Speaker 2: guardsmen in the air, we had DPS in the air,
- 15:07Speaker 2: we had Game wardens on the ground, and they were
- 15:10Speaker 2: rescuing people, pulling them out of harm's way. I met
- 15:16Speaker 2: today with a Coast Guard swimmer, and by the way,
- 15:19Speaker 2: Coast Guard swimmers are incredible. You know. I have analogized
- 15:23Speaker 2: Coastguard swimmers before to kind of a blend of Navy
- 15:27Speaker 2: seals and California surfers, and I've gotten to know several
- 15:32Speaker 2: of these Coast Guard swimmers and Hurricane Harvey, I got
- 15:34Speaker 2: to know them, and they're utterly fearless. These are guys
- 15:37Speaker 2: that jump out of helicopters into hurricane force winds and
- 15:41Speaker 2: waters and just swim and rescue people. And they kind
- 15:44Speaker 2: of you know, often will be just sort of dudes,
- 15:49Speaker 2: like surfer dudes, who are these incredibly fearless life savers. Well,
- 15:54Speaker 2: I met met this one one Coast guardsman who landed
- 16:03Speaker 2: at Camp Mystic. He was on a Coastguard helicopter. They
- 16:07Speaker 2: landed him there and he rescued one hundred and sixty
- 16:11Speaker 2: five girls and I talked with him. His name is
- 16:14Speaker 2: Petty Officer Scott Ruskin. He's twenty six years old. He's
- 16:18Speaker 2: from New Jersey and it was his first mission as
- 16:22Speaker 2: a Coast Guard rescue swimmer. He's due to the Coastguard.
- 16:26Speaker 2: He did a lot of training, but they put him
- 16:28Speaker 2: on the ground there and it was the highest part
- 16:31Speaker 2: part of Camp Mystic, And then they brought in a
- 16:34Speaker 2: whole series of helicopters to helicopter the girls out because
- 16:37Speaker 2: all the roads were underwater, so you couldn't drive in
- 16:39Speaker 2: and get the girls because the roads were completely submerged.
- 16:42Speaker 2: And so he was there. He spent three and a
- 16:45Speaker 2: half hours on the ground at Camp Mystic. Understand there's
- 16:49Speaker 2: torrential rains coming down. He's sitting there with girls, girls
- 16:54Speaker 2: who are terrified, who are crying, who are screaming, who
- 16:59Speaker 2: are scared. Some of them were singing hymns and he's
- 17:03Speaker 2: trying to comfort them. They dropped him off, and he
- 17:06Speaker 2: was the one staying with them and trying to get
- 17:08Speaker 2: the girls that they would come and land helicopters and
- 17:11Speaker 2: they would load about fifteen girls and they'd take take them,
- 17:15Speaker 2: take them to a safe place. They'd come back and
- 17:17Speaker 2: pick up another load, and another load and another load.
- 17:19Speaker 2: So for three and a half hours, you know, when
- 17:22Speaker 2: I visited with him, and it's interesting. He's twenty six
- 17:26Speaker 2: years old. He has kind of short blonde hair and
- 17:28Speaker 2: a mustache, and it's you know, he's done some media
- 17:31Speaker 2: interviews today and one of them he said, I'm just
- 17:34Speaker 2: a dude, which is sort of what what I said
- 17:37Speaker 2: about like the and he was saying and he was
- 17:41Speaker 2: kind of laughing and saying like like he talks to
- 17:43Speaker 2: his commanding officer and sometimes says, hey, dude, He's like,
- 17:46Speaker 2: oh wait, wait, you're a commanding officer. Sorry, But it's
- 17:49Speaker 2: it's kind of just how swimmers are. It's sort of
- 17:51Speaker 2: their culture. But he said he had just gotten off
- 17:55Speaker 2: the phone with a mom and dad and a girl
- 17:58Speaker 2: who he said, and he said they were crying and
- 18:00Speaker 2: he was crying because they said, you saved my daughter's life.
- 18:03Speaker 2: She said that when she was terrified, you held her
- 18:06Speaker 2: hand and just held her hand as you put her
- 18:07Speaker 2: in the helicopter, and and and made her not be
- 18:10Speaker 2: scared for a minute. And I that heroism was happening
- 18:17Speaker 2: over and over and over again.
- 18:22Speaker 1: It's it's incredible. It's the best part of the tragedy
- 18:26Speaker 1: is just seeing how quickly people came together. You know.
- 18:29Speaker 1: There there's also another aspect of this, and and I
- 18:32Speaker 1: do want to just take a moment and set the
- 18:34Speaker 1: record straight. There have been some people that have tried
- 18:39Speaker 1: to use this tragedy to score political points. I I
- 18:45Speaker 1: it makes me sad that are that that there's people
- 18:49Speaker 1: on the media, and there's people on the left that
- 18:51Speaker 1: are just that vile and partisan. We even saw, you know,
- 18:57Speaker 1: a pediatrician that actually worked with Mike kids go to
- 19:01Speaker 1: a pediatrician who said that basically, the people deserve what
- 19:04Speaker 1: they get because they voted for Donald Trump in this
- 19:06Speaker 1: area of the country. You know, Thank goodness, it was
- 19:08Speaker 1: exposed and she was fired today for that. It is
- 19:13Speaker 1: it is sad to see this happen. And I even
- 19:18Speaker 1: called her pediatrician's office, and I said, hey, like this,
- 19:21Speaker 1: I need to know that if there's an on call doctor,
- 19:25Speaker 1: they're not going to give my kid bad care if
- 19:27Speaker 1: they know what I do. And they said, watch our website.
- 19:31Speaker 1: You'll be getting an update soon. Thank goodness. They put
- 19:33Speaker 1: out there that this doctor had been had been fired
- 19:37Speaker 1: from this job as a pediatrician. And you look at
- 19:39Speaker 1: these moments and it does make you sad, But I
- 19:42Speaker 1: also think we need to be clear about the record here.
- 19:46Speaker 1: There's a lot of rumors that this was all preventable,
- 19:49Speaker 1: that this was somehow Donald Trump's fault, this was the
- 19:52Speaker 1: fault of defunding of FEMA and different agencies and National
- 19:56Speaker 1: Weather Service. All that is a lie. They were staffed adequately.
- 20:00Speaker 1: There were warnings that went out. Can we learn from
- 20:02Speaker 1: this and do better? Absolutely? Can we put maybe a
- 20:05Speaker 1: warning system on the river banks? So they've talked about
- 20:09Speaker 1: seven years ago, but it was voted down because the
- 20:11Speaker 1: costs and Kirk County that these are things that we
- 20:16Speaker 1: can learn from. But the partisan politics of this and
- 20:20Speaker 1: just watching people try to somehow blame Trump for this tragedy,
- 20:24Speaker 1: it really makes me sad that this is still where
- 20:26Speaker 1: we are in this way when something like this happens.
- 20:29Speaker 1: I wish people could just learn this isn't political. This
- 20:33Speaker 1: storm didn't care if you're a Republican or Democrat, or Agnostic,
- 20:36Speaker 1: or Christian or Jewish or Catholic or anything else. They
- 20:40Speaker 1: didn't care if you were rich or poor, black or white.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Everybody that was in the line of this flooding life
- 20:46Speaker 1: was in danger. That's what people should focus on and
- 20:49Speaker 1: the help we can do to give them, not trying
- 20:51Speaker 1: to say, all right, how do we use this to
- 20:53Speaker 1: make points?
- 20:55Speaker 2: Yeah, you see this unfortunately frequently after natural disaster, after
- 21:00Speaker 2: hurricanes or or tornadoes or in this case, flooding, that
- 21:04Speaker 2: that that partisans will try to attack their political opponents
- 21:07Speaker 2: and and and and score cheap points. And and there
- 21:09Speaker 2: are a bunch of folks online and both in the
- 21:13Speaker 2: media and and and on the left that are just
- 21:16Speaker 2: trying to attack Trump. And and you know, if there's
- 21:18Speaker 2: a hurricane, the hurricane is Trump's fault. And in this case,
- 21:21Speaker 2: the the sort of talking point of the left was
- 21:24Speaker 2: that that Doge made reductions in different areas of government
- 21:27Speaker 2: and the National Weather Service, they say Doge gutted it. Now,
- 21:31Speaker 2: now we know that that that is not the case.
- 21:33Speaker 2: How do we know that? Number one, because the National
- 21:36Speaker 2: Weather Service in this case put out two warnings, one
- 21:39Speaker 2: as I mentioned, just after one am, one after four am.
- 21:42Speaker 2: UH that that was their job. We also know the
- 21:46Speaker 2: National Weather Service for this region UH was headquarters in
- 21:49Speaker 2: New bron Foals, which is another small town not too
- 21:52Speaker 2: far away from Curville, not too far away from Hunt
- 21:55Speaker 2: and and and the night of of of of this flood,
- 21:58Speaker 2: they not only had full staff, they had three additional people.
- 22:01Speaker 2: Three extra people staffed that evening because they knew it
- 22:05Speaker 2: was going to be a difficult weather event, so they
- 22:06Speaker 2: deliberately staffed up. And lookie, I will say beyond that,
- 22:12Speaker 2: the National Weather Service Union, which has been very critical
- 22:16Speaker 2: of the DOZE reductions, as you would expect the union
- 22:18Speaker 2: to be, they publicly said that that the reductions through
- 22:24Speaker 2: DOGE had zero impact on the National Weather Service's ability
- 22:28Speaker 2: to predict what happened here. And given that they're they're
- 22:33Speaker 2: an entity that is naturally critical of those cuts, I
- 22:35Speaker 2: think that's that speaks volumes now, you know. I spent
- 22:39Speaker 2: the day, I did a lot of a lot of
- 22:41Speaker 2: interviews with a lot of reporters today, and many of
- 22:43Speaker 2: them were saying, okay, well, and they would ask this question.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Many of the reporters would say, well, isn't this all
- 22:48Speaker 2: Trump's fault? And so I tried to say, look, stop
- 22:51Speaker 2: politicizing a crisis that has broken the heart of our state.
- 22:56Speaker 2: But as you noted and listen, with any disag aster,
- 23:00Speaker 2: there's a natural order of events. The first phase is
- 23:06Speaker 2: is search and rescue. It is crisis saving people's lives.
- 23:11Speaker 2: And we have been in that phase. We're still in
- 23:14Speaker 2: that phase looking for these these eleven still missing girls.
- 23:18Speaker 2: But but but that phase will soon come to an end.
- 23:23Speaker 2: The next phase is rebuilding. And then there are many
- 23:25Speaker 2: people who have who have lost their homes, have lost everything,
- 23:27Speaker 2: and the and the rebuilding time phase will will take
- 23:30Speaker 2: It will take months, it may take years for some
- 23:33Speaker 2: of these some of these places to be rebuilt. But
- 23:36Speaker 2: but that's a process. That's a process that there will
- 23:38Speaker 2: be local assistance and state assistants and federal assistants at
- 23:43Speaker 2: the same time. We will when we get through the
- 23:46Speaker 2: crisis period, there will naturally be a retrospective examination of
- 23:51Speaker 2: what happened, what was the exact timeline, and what could
- 23:55Speaker 2: have gone better, what what lessons can be learned and
- 23:59Speaker 2: we've seen that. Uh, for instance, with the many hurricanes.
- 24:02Speaker 2: You know, you and I both live in Houston. If
- 24:04Speaker 2: you live on the Gulf coast, you have a lot
- 24:05Speaker 2: of hurricanes. I will say unfortunately, Texas has gotten really
- 24:09Speaker 2: good with dealing with hurricanes because we have a lot
- 24:12Speaker 2: of practice in it, and so we've learned lessons. We've
- 24:14Speaker 2: learned how to identify the most vulnerable areas, the most
- 24:17Speaker 2: vulnerable populations when a hurricane is in the Gulf, to
- 24:20Speaker 2: get them out of there, to try to minimize fatalities.
- 24:22Speaker 2: And I think we can certainly learn lessons here, in
- 24:26Speaker 2: particular the the you know, you're putting out warnings at
- 24:30Speaker 2: one am and four am. Most people are sleeping at
- 24:33Speaker 2: one am and four am, and every one of us,
- 24:36Speaker 2: if you and I, yeah, yeah, and actually with the
- 24:40Speaker 2: kids of the kids they don't have we knew people.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, there was people that we
- 24:45Speaker 1: knew that were in Curville that received the notices on
- 24:49Speaker 1: their phones. They woke up to them and yeah, they
- 24:52Speaker 1: didn't get them because they were asleep.
- 24:56Speaker 2: And the cell coverage, I will say, in that region
- 24:58Speaker 2: is is just lousy. Like every time we go for
- 25:01Speaker 2: can't pick up you. It's very hard to get any
- 25:03Speaker 2: cell coverage at all, just just given the topography, there's
- 25:06Speaker 2: not a lot of cell towers there. And it's also
- 25:14Speaker 2: you know, the campers are not allowed to have phones,
- 25:21Speaker 2: and so they leave their phones at home, so it's
- 25:23Speaker 2: just the counselors and adults that have phones. But look, Ben,
- 25:27Speaker 2: if you and I could step in a time machine
- 25:28Speaker 2: right now and go back to two or three in
- 25:32Speaker 2: the morning on the fourth of July, we would run
- 25:35Speaker 2: into those cabins and pull those girls out and get
- 25:38Speaker 2: them out of there. Every one of us. We're just like,
- 25:41Speaker 2: dear God, get them the high ground. And so it
- 25:45Speaker 2: is perfectly reasonable to say, how can we improve the
- 25:50Speaker 2: response from when an emergency warning gets out to make
- 25:53Speaker 2: sure that it is heard. And I'll tell you I
- 25:56Speaker 2: spoke today with Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, tech legislator's coming
- 26:01Speaker 2: back for special session shortly, and I suggested to him
- 26:04Speaker 2: this is something that should be on the call. The
- 26:06Speaker 2: governor chooses that, But Lieutenant Governor agreed that it made
- 26:11Speaker 2: sense to look at an emergency warning system along the
- 26:16Speaker 2: guadally Loopy River, much like we have up in the
- 26:19Speaker 2: Texas Panhandle. When there's a tornado, they have sirens that
- 26:23Speaker 2: go off. Because a tornado, like a flash flood, you
- 26:25Speaker 2: get very little warning. It can develop quickly, it could
- 26:28Speaker 2: be devastating, and so they'll set off the alarms. I
- 26:32Speaker 2: think it makes a lot of sense to consider putting
- 26:35Speaker 2: in a warning system like that. So at least if
- 26:37Speaker 2: you had a blaring alarm going off at one or
- 26:40Speaker 2: two or three in the morning, it would wake the
- 26:43Speaker 2: kids up and wake the counselors up and put them
- 26:45Speaker 2: in a position to get the kids out of harm's way.
- 26:49Speaker 1: No, I couldn't agree with you more in that one.
- 26:51Speaker 1: How does that when you when you look at the
- 26:53Speaker 1: response moving forward? Final question on this, because there are
- 26:56Speaker 1: people that say, hey, we want to make sure, as
- 26:58Speaker 1: you just mentioned this ever happened again. Is this a
- 27:01Speaker 1: cooperation within the State of Texas with the federal government?
- 27:05Speaker 1: Does the State of Texas come first? There's a lot
- 27:07Speaker 1: of people that asked that question. I'd love for you
- 27:09Speaker 1: to answer it. Where does that start?
- 27:12Speaker 2: So it'll be at every level of government. It'll be
- 27:15Speaker 2: the local level, it'll be at the state level, it'll
- 27:18Speaker 2: be at the federal level, and I think at every
- 27:19Speaker 2: level we're going to have discussions about what can we do,
- 27:22Speaker 2: what makes sense, how do we keep people safe? And look,
- 27:29Speaker 2: this level of devastation, We've never seen anything like it.
- 27:36Speaker 2: But I want to go back to some of the
- 27:40Speaker 2: signs of encouragement. I met with with one family today,
- 27:45Speaker 2: a mom and dad who had a young boy, a
- 27:49Speaker 2: fourteen year old boy, who was at Lahunta, which is
- 27:51Speaker 2: another summer camp for boys. It's right right down right
- 27:56Speaker 2: down the river from Mystic and Lhunta also flooded, and
- 28:01Speaker 2: miraculously nobody was killed. But they said their fourteen year
- 28:05Speaker 2: old son was woken up about three in the morning
- 28:08Speaker 2: and the counselors were telling him, come, come help us,
- 28:11Speaker 2: Let's get the little boys out of harm's way. And
- 28:14Speaker 2: he said they were going and getting getting seven and
- 28:18Speaker 2: eight year old boy, pulling them out of their cabin
- 28:20Speaker 2: and having them swim through rushing water and rescue them.
- 28:23Speaker 2: And I got to tell you this, Mom and dad,
- 28:25Speaker 2: they were there just just hugging. I was hugging them,
- 28:30Speaker 2: and they had tears in their eyes and they were
- 28:33Speaker 2: just and and first of all, their son was alive.
- 28:36Speaker 2: So I just said, praise God. But it was, you know, terrifying,
- 28:41Speaker 2: and and what I did say to the mom and dad,
- 28:44Speaker 2: I said, look that this this trauma, this experience, will
- 28:48Speaker 2: be with your son for the rest of his life.
- 28:50Speaker 2: It will be with both of you for the rest
- 28:53Speaker 2: of your lives. But I said, your son also has
- 28:56Speaker 2: the experience of knowing for the rest of his life.
- 28:59Speaker 2: That is a fourteen year old boy he helped save
- 29:02Speaker 2: the lives of these younger seven, eight, nine year old boys.
- 29:05Speaker 2: That there are there are boys and soon to be
- 29:10Speaker 2: men living because of his heroism in a time of crisis.
- 29:14Speaker 2: And that I heard another story of a counselor who
- 29:18Speaker 2: was in a cabin. The cabin was filled up with water.
- 29:21Speaker 2: His head was just barely sticking above the water where
- 29:24Speaker 2: he could breathe, and with each hand he was holding
- 29:28Speaker 2: up a mattress with a camper on the on the mattress,
- 29:31Speaker 2: and all three of them, the counselor and both campers survived.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Those sorts of acts of heroism happened over and over again.
- 29:40Speaker 2: There's stories of Eagle Scouts who were counselors rescuing young
- 29:45Speaker 2: kids over and over and over again. That was happening repeatedly.
- 29:50Speaker 2: But I'll tell you, Ben, the most difficult thing I
- 29:51Speaker 2: did today is. I went to Camp Mystic, and I
- 29:57Speaker 2: went and walked to the grounds at Camp Mystic, and
- 30:02Speaker 2: I think it may be the most horrifying thing I've
- 30:04Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. You walk through and actually
- 30:10Speaker 2: as you walk through, the river was calm and peaceful
- 30:14Speaker 2: and beautiful, but it rose, and it rose suddenly. And
- 30:22Speaker 2: I will say the press, I think has been less
- 30:26Speaker 2: than clear and honest about how Camp Mystic is it
- 30:29Speaker 2: is set up, because they've described it as saying, well,
- 30:33Speaker 2: the camps for the cabins for the young girls were
- 30:35Speaker 2: down by the river bank and all of the other
- 30:37Speaker 2: cabins were up high. That's not accurate. And walking the grounds,
- 30:43Speaker 2: the cabins are all hundreds of yards removed from the
- 30:47Speaker 2: river bank. There's a lot of distance between the river
- 30:49Speaker 2: and where the cabin is and the cabins are all
- 30:52Speaker 2: about the same elevation. There's some differences, but not massive
- 30:55Speaker 2: differences in elevation between the cabins at Mystic. And I
- 31:01Speaker 2: was talking with one of the longtime employees there who
- 31:05Speaker 2: said there had been a flood decades before and it
- 31:08Speaker 2: had gotten up, it had gotten up and crossed a
- 31:11Speaker 2: little bit of the ground and it had come to
- 31:13Speaker 2: sort of the foundation of one of the buildings that
- 31:17Speaker 2: was not a cabin, but one of the buildings closer
- 31:19Speaker 2: to the river. But it had never gotten close to
- 31:21Speaker 2: the cabins. So that's one thing to understand. People say, well, gosh,
- 31:24Speaker 2: this is prone to floods. Yes, but in the one
- 31:29Speaker 2: hundred years of Camp missed It, there'd never been a
- 31:31Speaker 2: flood where the water had gotten to the cabins. And
- 31:34Speaker 2: in this case, the water was eight feet deep in
- 31:39Speaker 2: the cabins. Walking through and every building you could see
- 31:43Speaker 2: the water line, you could see the water line outside
- 31:46Speaker 2: the buildings, and it was eight feet deep. And in
- 31:49Speaker 2: the cabins the water shattered the windows, it swept the
- 31:55Speaker 2: furniture out. You looked in the cabins and every one
- 31:58Speaker 2: of the cabins, the furniture had been swept out, the
- 32:03Speaker 2: windows were all shattered. And I got to tell you, look,
- 32:09Speaker 2: there was one cabin, it's called the bubble in, and
- 32:17Speaker 2: it's a cabin at missed It where the youngest girls were.
- 32:22Speaker 2: And outside the bubble in were sixteen white crosses, and
- 32:30Speaker 2: on each one of those was the name of a
- 32:32Speaker 2: little girl, and their names that we've read in the paper,
- 32:38Speaker 2: their names of little seven to eight year old girls,
- 32:41Speaker 2: third graders who lost their lives when one of the
- 32:46Speaker 2: crosses was for Dick Eastland, the camp director who drowned
- 32:51Speaker 2: trying to save the girls' lives. And he had spent
- 32:54Speaker 2: he graduated from ut fifty years ago and had spent
- 32:58Speaker 2: fifty years of his life running this camp for girls.
- 33:02Speaker 2: And he was in his suburban. They showed me where
- 33:05Speaker 2: he drowned. It was a couple of hundred yards from
- 33:07Speaker 2: where I was standing. In the river. He was trying
- 33:08Speaker 2: to save the girls in the water swept him away
- 33:11Speaker 2: and he drowned. And the sixteen crosses reading those names.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Two of those little girls go to school with my daughter.
- 33:26Speaker 2: There are third graders at our school. The parents of
- 33:30Speaker 2: one of those little girls lives a block away from me.
- 33:39Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, I just knelt and wept. There
- 33:48Speaker 2: were families there. Ben There was a mom and dad
- 33:56Speaker 2: who was kneeling in front of those crosses, and they
- 34:03Speaker 2: were kissing, kissing the cross and I stood back. I
- 34:08Speaker 2: didn't want to interrupt their grieving, but just watching them.
- 34:14Speaker 2: The mom came to that cabin, the bubble in and
- 34:19Speaker 2: she just broke down in tears in front of every cabin.
- 34:27Speaker 2: There were the children's belongings. There were trunks, there were
- 34:32Speaker 2: electric fans, There were slippers and flip flops and crocs.
- 34:41Speaker 2: There were teddy bears. There were stuffed animals everywhere. These
- 34:43Speaker 2: are little girls, and many of them have their names
- 34:47Speaker 2: on them. And there were moms and dads picking through
- 34:54Speaker 2: the rubble looking for their girls belongings. And I don't
- 35:02Speaker 2: know which of those moms and dads lost a daughter.
- 35:06Speaker 2: We know of twenty seven who were lost, and there
- 35:10Speaker 2: may be more. There are eleven that are missing. And
- 35:16Speaker 2: there were girls picking through the rubble. I don't know
- 35:21Speaker 2: if those girls were campers themselves who had survived. I
- 35:24Speaker 2: don't know if they're siblings who had lost a sibling.
- 35:27Speaker 2: But everyone is walking around. Shell shock doesn't begin to
- 35:34Speaker 2: describe it. They're up on the field. There was a
- 35:40Speaker 2: field that was basically a parking lot for the cars
- 35:42Speaker 2: of councilors, and the waters had thrown the cars on
- 35:50Speaker 2: top of each other. It was like they were matchbox cars,
- 35:52Speaker 2: just flipped over. You saw car after car after cars
- 35:55Speaker 2: stacked on each other, flipped on its side, flip the
- 35:57Speaker 2: over tossed around the dining hall. An entire wall of
- 36:05Speaker 2: the dining hall had been ripped off. They had heavy
- 36:08Speaker 2: wooden tables that filled the dining hall. Every one of
- 36:11Speaker 2: them had been pulled out in the bubble in which
- 36:14Speaker 2: is where a large percentage of the fatalities occurred. The
- 36:20Speaker 2: water swept in and just pulled those girls out the
- 36:24Speaker 2: windows it seeing that, and I saw it first from
- 36:34Speaker 2: the helicopter and you could see all their belongings spread out.
- 36:38Speaker 2: But then standing there and viewing it from the perspective
- 36:46Speaker 2: of a dad. You know, I have helped my daughters
- 36:50Speaker 2: pack their trunks. I've you know, can't pick up every
- 36:57Speaker 2: year you go and pick up your daughter's trunk and
- 37:01Speaker 2: it's a joyful time. Our state is more mourning right now, Ben.
- 37:12Speaker 1: I tell you, for everyone listening and I say this,
- 37:16Speaker 1: just pray for the people that are affected. Pray for
- 37:18Speaker 1: the people in Texas. Pray for the families who are
- 37:24Speaker 1: still without their their loved ones. They're still trying to
- 37:27Speaker 1: find them. Pray for the moms and the dads who
- 37:30Speaker 1: are planning the funerals as we know people personally that
- 37:34Speaker 1: are doing that and getting ready for that this week.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Pray for the moms. God, please pray for the moms. Yes,
- 37:41Speaker 1: and anything you can do to help with all of that.
- 37:43Speaker 1: There's so many different groups that are helping the people,
- 37:46Speaker 1: and Comfort and Kirk County and and and there are
- 37:50Speaker 1: people that need help. And we focus so much on
- 37:52Speaker 1: the kids, but there's a lot of elderly people that
- 37:54Speaker 1: have been affected by this. There are a lot of
- 37:56Speaker 1: people that lost their lives and all their belongings, and
- 38:00Speaker 1: and and help any way you can with with all
- 38:04Speaker 1: of the nonprofits that are getting involved, that are that
- 38:07Speaker 1: are doing this, and and we're going to keep you updated.
- 38:10Speaker 2: But I would just and Ben, I want to say,
- 38:14Speaker 2: Ben I want, I want to say three more things
- 38:17Speaker 2: of encouragement. So in Hunt, there's a store that's kind
- 38:22Speaker 2: of a focal point. It's called the Hunt Store, and
- 38:25Speaker 2: and it's right at the junction of two of the highways.
- 38:28Speaker 2: You go up one highway to go to one of
- 38:30Speaker 2: the big camps. You go up another highway to go
- 38:32Speaker 2: up to Mystic and Lahunta And actually Hunta's right across
- 38:34Speaker 2: the street from the Hunt Store. The Hunt Store, the flooded,
- 38:39Speaker 2: the flood utterly gutted it. It's it's just ripped out
- 38:42Speaker 2: in a hollow shell. I went and stopped at the
- 38:47Speaker 2: Hunt Store and just just visited people who were there,
- 38:49Speaker 2: were gathering there, and they'd actually changed the sign where
- 38:53Speaker 2: it said Hunt Store and instead of Hunt Store, they
- 38:56Speaker 2: changed the sign to read Hunt Strong. And you know,
- 39:04Speaker 2: Heidi and Catherine were at the Hunt Store last week.
- 39:10Speaker 2: I mean it's I've been there dozens of times. The
- 39:14Speaker 2: owners were there. I just hugged them and they were
- 39:17Speaker 2: just like residents there who were just there mourning and grieving.
- 39:22Speaker 2: And I'll tell you there was set up. There was
- 39:23Speaker 2: a giant barbecue truck. All right. So this is a
- 39:27Speaker 2: story that is amazing that you're gonna like. It's a
- 39:29Speaker 2: barbecue truck from Rockport. Rockport is a town down on
- 39:33Speaker 2: the Gulf Coast and Rockport when Hurricane Harvey hit, it
- 39:39Speaker 2: devastated the Gulf Coast from from deep East Texas to
- 39:44Speaker 2: south all the way really to Corpus Christie. So that's
- 39:46Speaker 2: a lot of and Rockport is right in there. It's
- 39:49Speaker 2: by Port Ramsas and Rass Pass and Rockport was devastated
- 39:52Speaker 2: by Hurricane Harvey. Well, these guys, and these are big
- 39:57Speaker 2: old Texans with big old beards. They look like z
- 40:00Speaker 2: Top And they said, well, you know when when Hurricane
- 40:05Speaker 2: Harvey hit. There was a group from Hunt, Texas, little
- 40:09Speaker 2: town in the in the hill country that came down
- 40:12Speaker 2: to Rockport and set up a food truck and fed
- 40:14Speaker 2: us when we had lost our homes. And so they
- 40:17Speaker 2: got in a truck and drove up this giant smoker
- 40:21Speaker 2: and griller and they were just giving away free barbecue
- 40:24Speaker 2: and one of the things that's really cool. I was
- 40:29Speaker 2: at in Rockport several times after Hurricane Harven. I was
- 40:33Speaker 2: in all the towns up and down the Gulf Coast,
- 40:35Speaker 2: but I was at that those food trucks. So I
- 40:38Speaker 2: don't recall visiting with someone and hearing that they were
- 40:41Speaker 2: from Hunt down in Rockport, but you know what, in Rockport,
- 40:44Speaker 2: they remembered that. And that's something we see happening, just
- 40:50Speaker 2: Texans coming together. The Cajun Navy from Louisiana came and
- 40:54Speaker 2: and we're there helping people out. That was incredible, And
- 40:59Speaker 2: I just had a chance. I visited with a family.
- 41:03Speaker 2: One dad who introduced me to two little boys and
- 41:08Speaker 2: he said both of them lost some of their closest
- 41:11Speaker 2: friends of the flood, and I just I said, you know,
- 41:16Speaker 2: little kids, and they're not much older than your boys.
- 41:20Speaker 2: They shouldn't have to deal with with death and loss
- 41:23Speaker 2: at that age. But I'll tell you, in that same
- 41:27Speaker 2: parking lot at the Hunt store, there was a car
- 41:32Speaker 2: that had written on the back of it a Bible
- 41:34Speaker 2: verse written in like shaving cream on the back window,
- 41:38Speaker 2: and it was Isaiah forty three too that says when
- 41:44Speaker 2: you go through deep water, I will be with you, amen.
- 41:52Speaker 2: That is Look, you just asked folks to pray. Let
- 41:56Speaker 2: me just underscore that for the moms and dads who
- 42:00Speaker 2: have a yearning, gaping hole in their heart, I think
- 42:05Speaker 2: there is no pain, no agony like losing a child,
- 42:09Speaker 2: and nothing will ever fill that hole. That pain will
- 42:13Speaker 2: never go away. But they need love, they need support,
- 42:17Speaker 2: They need friends, They need families to hug them, to
- 42:21Speaker 2: hold them tight, to just give them a shoulder to
- 42:23Speaker 2: cry on and to hold them up. And I got
- 42:26Speaker 2: to tell you this is a time for the church.
- 42:29Speaker 2: One of the reasons Texas I think we are so
- 42:32Speaker 2: resilient when facing natural disasters is because the church is
- 42:36Speaker 2: strong in Texas and you see, you see church a step.
- 42:40Speaker 2: I started the day actually by visiting with a number
- 42:42Speaker 2: of chaplains who, look, you want to talk about It
- 42:46Speaker 2: was brutal on the chaplains when you're dealing with moms
- 42:48Speaker 2: and dads who've lost their kids and they're just weeping.
- 42:53Speaker 2: Even a chaplain of a man or women of strong faith,
- 42:56Speaker 2: I mean, it rips your heart out to be with
- 42:59Speaker 2: a and who's lost a seven or eight year old daughter.
- 43:03Speaker 2: And right down from the Hunt store there was a
- 43:08Speaker 2: church that had a big sign free barbecue, lunch, and dinner.
- 43:13Speaker 2: All are welcome. And that's what the church should be doing,
- 43:15Speaker 2: is helping and clothing and comforting and taking care of
- 43:19Speaker 2: the needy, and that the church should always be doing that,
- 43:22Speaker 2: but especially in time of crisis. And and I want
- 43:27Speaker 2: to close this pod today, Ben with something I saw
- 43:31Speaker 2: on the internet, and it's a video that was recorded
- 43:35Speaker 2: in a bus that was driving a bus full of
- 43:41Speaker 2: campers from Catmestic after this flooding. And it's a video
- 43:46Speaker 2: recording and you can watch on x there's a video
- 43:50Speaker 2: of it's it's an iPhone or so that is going
- 43:54Speaker 2: along and showing the video as they're driving along and
- 43:57Speaker 2: you can see the wreckage and the wreckage and the
- 43:58Speaker 2: wreckage and everything. But the girls are singing hymns and
- 44:03Speaker 2: Mystic is a Christian camp. And these are girls that
- 44:06Speaker 2: have just been through hell, have been terrified, have lost friends.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Some of these girls have lost siblings. And I want
- 44:15Speaker 2: to close this podcast by just listening to the voices
- 44:19Speaker 2: of these girls singing. And I will tell you I
- 44:23Speaker 2: have a hard time listening to them singing without being
- 44:27Speaker 2: in tears. But I want you to hear them singing
- 44:31Speaker 2: these hymns wounds.
- 44:34Speaker 3: I'll sort of from the mountain tops say, I want
- 44:38Speaker 3: my world to know the Lord has come to me.
- 44:43Speaker 3: I want to pass it on. I'll sort it from
- 44:48Speaker 3: the mountaintops, raise Scott. I want my world to know
- 44:53Speaker 3: the Lord of them has gone to me. I want
- 44:57Speaker 3: to pass as Gardron.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Tell me like, oh my god, oh my god.
- 45:07Speaker 3: We ti and shoe mid nays get hoppy, hm oh
- 45:27Speaker 3: see that, uh uh anyone, as you know, I mand
- 45:41Speaker 3: me a section, oh try and te red days.
- 45:55Speaker 2: I'll be.
- 45:58Speaker 3: Say shoe me ooh you okay, down my five and
- 46:10Speaker 3: it is right chest masses and all these things shall
- 46:16Speaker 3: be out up to you all lady, our lady, be you.
- 46:23Speaker 2: So long.
- 46:24Speaker 3: And the five friend oh by three where the seeds
- 46:33Speaker 3: from them mount the God all that lady