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Reviewing the best card ever: Beterbiev - Bivol 2 · Boxing B-Sides

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  But I'm joined by the one and only Alex.
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  How you doing buddy?
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  How you doing guys?
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  Glad to be here again.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Doing good.
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  What come on Josh?
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  Yeah.
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  This is gonna be fun.
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  I'm, I'm, I got a good feeling about this.
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  All right.
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  Yeah.
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  Before we get to the boxing,
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  Yeah.
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  Light heavyweight over there is about cruiser weight
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  Oh man.
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  Into some recaps.
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  Let's get the quick shit out of the way.
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  Have a good time.
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  Yeah, just a good time.
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  It's unfortunate they moved to Saturdays.
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  This was their last Wednesday card.
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  Yeah.
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  I like that.
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  The Wednesday cards were always so good.
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  Yeah, it was always fun.
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  Just jumping in the chat with everybody
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  and watching the fights.
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  Yeah.
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  Having something to drink.
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  Having a beer after work.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah.
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  It was like Arthur's in A football.
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  It is.
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  That's a good analogy.
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  That's perfect.
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  That's exactly what it is.
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  That's a good analogy.
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  Emiliano Moreno gets a stoppage in seven
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  Gabe Flores, SAC Town represent.
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  Psst.
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  Another quick one.
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  Luis Neri stops Kionosuke Kameda in the seventh domination.
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  Kionosuke was a game.
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  It was like one of those too tough
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  for his own good kind of things.
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  So Neri's got some heavy ass hands.
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  So it's a scary prospect to be too tough for yourself.
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  All right.
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  Are we ready for Riyadh?
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  Yeah, the big one.
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  Giving my breath for this one.
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  This is why we're here.
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  This is what gets the new best card of all time.
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  Thank you.
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  His excellence.
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  They always say his excellence.
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  His excellence.
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  He always says.
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  Best card of all time.
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  All right.
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  Let's start from the bottom up as always.
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  Callum Smith versus Joshua Bawazi.
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  This was a version of Callum Smith that I did not expect.
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  I honestly had kind of written him off
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  and I was expecting Bawazi to just kind of,
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  not steamroll, but like Neri with Kameda, just too much.
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  And Callum Smith in the latter stages of his career,
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  not being able to keep up.
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  What did you guys see?
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  I was surprised by Callum Smith's fight.
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  I'll be the first to admit it.
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  I honestly thought Joshua Bawazi would be a knockout.
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  I said on the last podcast that I thought
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  Callum Smith's time is done for,
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  but he's still got a little bit of life in him.
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  He's got that Derek Chisora.
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  Life flow right there.
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  The Derek Chisora.
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  No, I honestly, Bawazi's someone that like,
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  just in like depth of resume, hadn't shown anything,
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  but like I'm surprised Callum Smith was able to hang in there
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  like under that type of pressure,
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  considering how quickly he wilted against Canelo
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  and how he fades.
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  But it's just something where you see Bawazi's ceiling
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  if you're a little cynical about him.
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  And I think both of them make a very fun fight
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  with Anthony Yard.
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  Sure.
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  Cause they're not like, they're never gonna win
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  like a world title.
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  Oh no.
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  With how stacked the division is.
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  But I don't even think like,
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  well with how stacked it is, like top heavy it is.
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  Like even like that second tier of like Morel Benavides,
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  I don't think, I think it's a bit one-sided,
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  but like, you know that like tier of like,
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  like if Joe Smith were still in the division,
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  that tier of, or Joe Smith Jr. is still in the division.
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  Anthony Yard.
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  Those would be fun fights.
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  Yard is such a fun, like I want to see Smith and Yard
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  go at it so bad.
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  Gvozdy can maybe get another shot at interim
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  if he wanted to.
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  Yeah.
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  Gvozdy Bawazi is also a good one actually.
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  My thing with Kalim Smith is that if,
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  if Bivou vacates his title, which we'll talk about right now,
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  but if he were to go up to, let's say Cruiserweight,
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  then he would get the title cause Kalim Smith
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  is not the interim champion, correct?
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  Yes. Interim WBO.
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  Yeah.
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  So yeah, in theory he could potentially get the title
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  and they could hold on to that.
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  I mean, he might just be a champion soon.
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  You never know.
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  Fair, fair.
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  Overall, that was a good fight.
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  I liked that fight a lot.
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  I mean, I, I, I remember Leo,
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  I did tell you remember that,
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  that that fight was going to be unexpectedly good.
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  I didn't even think it was going to be that good, you know?
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  Yeah.
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  I'm wondering how would either of these guys,
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  particularly Kalim Smith since he's the winner,
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  but how would he fare against like David Morrell
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  based on what we saw against Benavides?
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  Is Benavides too good and Morrell too inexperienced
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  with Kalim Smith?
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  Has a similar level of experience,
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  like elite level experience that David Benavides does.
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  Hasn't always been, he's not 100% green on the board,
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  like with wins across the board, but I don't know.
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  I just think-
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  Can Smith-
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  He's not the-
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  Hang with the explosiveness though.
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  Benavides, it's just the explosiveness difference.
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  Like I feel like it kind of caught Morrell cold,
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  aside from the obvious well depth and gap and experience,
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  but unless Kalim Smith can really assert himself early,
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  and even then Morrell has so much fucking heart.
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  Yeah, he does.
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  Lesser men get stopped against Benavides like that.
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  I think Morrell takes down Kalim Smith
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  and both him and Joshua Boazzi.
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  Yeah.
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  And that's not really me being biased.
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  It's more so that he's young and he's hungry.
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  I guess just an athleticism difference.
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  Like Kalim Smith is not to discredit the man at all,
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  but he is, it's just not on that,
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  like he's just not explosive enough to take advantage
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  of those lapses that Morrell often has in his defense
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  without taking excessive punishment in return.
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  Yeah, sure man.
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  I mean, he also doesn't really have the speed
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  to also take advantage of openings that Morrell has.
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  Yeah.
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  Whereas Benavides was very, he had quick hands that fight.
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  So he was able to catch David Morrell a lot that night.
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  He's explosive and he sets traps,
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  which is not something that Smith is particularly good at.
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  Yeah, Smith is like the run on the mill British,
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  heavier.
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  He's got heart though.
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  He's got heart.
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  He's got like actual heart.
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  I was about to say, he's kind of like,
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  the Brits are similar to Mexicans.
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  I think I mentioned in the last podcast too actually.
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  The Brits are similar to Mexicans to where
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  they have a certain style, but they got heart.
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  They got a lot of heart.
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  Yeah, I don't know.
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  It's something that like, you kind of have to,
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  I feel like you kind of, you throw yard in there
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  and like you kind of, Morrell, not to say like Morrell,
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  they need like another kind of touch
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  before stepping up to that like kind of like S tier
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  of the division, I guess.
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  Cause even if it's top heavy,
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  there's still like such a gap between that top
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  and like these top 10 guys, you know?
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  Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
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  The guys at the top are pound for pound,
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  the best in the world.
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  Yeah.
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  You know?
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  So, you can make the argument for both,
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  but besides being S tier, it's like,
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  there's a lot of A's and B's that can go up.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's not that they're any bad.
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  It's just that like, I feel like it's more fun
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  to see if we can kind of shine a diamond
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  out of this A, B tier.
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  Yeah, sure.
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  And then just shatter it against
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  in an uncompetitive matchup, honestly.
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  Like this fight probably, this fight
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  and the next one that we're gonna talk about,
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  it should probably, it should have been higher up
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  on the card, cause they were, they're quality matchups.
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  Yeah.
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  Genuinely.
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  I disagree.
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  I think, the thing is on paper,
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  this fight really should have been at the bottom,
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  but how it played out, it really,
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  it could have been a co-main.
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  Yeah.
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  I guess it's me being more down on Buwazi than anything.
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  Yeah.
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  I agree.
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  It depends on the perception of the fighters, I guess.
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  Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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  So I'm wondering, I'm looking at just ESPN.
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  So take it with a green assault,
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  but their rankings are, for light heavyweight,
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  their top 10 is like genuinely dog shit right now.
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  But, so Arthur Benavides of Embiival,
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  are the top two, no shit.
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  To me, that's the best tier.
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  And Benavides is sitting alone in an A tier.
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  And I'm wondering if, who else might be with Benavides?
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  Well, it's like an A plus, A minus with like Morello.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Cause like with Morello, genuinely just is like
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  that championship experience.
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  Cause like what?
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  Yeah, he's gone 12 ones.
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  Like, Benavides has been on the tear up.
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  I disagree.
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  I mean, I agree that he, it's an A plus, A minus,
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  but I still think Morello starts to prove himself.
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  Yeah.
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  To be A minus, you know?
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  Yeah.
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  But I feel like that's why you make Callum Smith and Yard
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  and then you.
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  I would like to see probably either Anthony Yard
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  versus Morello or Morello versus Callum Smith.
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  And then see where he goes from there.
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  I like that a lot.
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  That would be a good Riyadh card too.
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  They worked with Morello in the past.
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  So I mean, I think-
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  Even Morello, I feel like for the fun factor,
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  I feel like Morello Yard is the way to go though.
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  Yeah, that'd be dynamite.
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  Like cause Yard, like Yard held up pretty good
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  against Benavides.
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  Yeah, I was just trying to find how long he went.
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  Eight out of 12.
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  So that's pretty damn good.
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  And for a defense that leaky.
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  Yeah.
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  For a defense that leaky.
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  Like that's cause like, cause like,
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  not to put Yard down,
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  but his defense is basically just vibes.
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  His defense is basically just vibes.
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  That's the best way I've heard.
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  That's the best kind of defense.
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  What else do you need?
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  It's just vibes.
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  Like.
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  I do not vibe with that punch.
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  I'm going to take it.
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  It's just the athleticism.
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  Like a guy like Beterbiev,
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  like the traps he sets offensively just doesn't.
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  But with Morello, you really see whether like,
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  Benavides was actually that much ahead of him,
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  or if it was more shortcoming from Morello.
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  I agree there.
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  Deficiencies versus.
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  Yeah.
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  Proficiencies in Benavides.
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  Yeah.
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  Absolutely.
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  We gotta keep moving though.
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  Cause like there's a lot of.
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  There's so much.
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  Yeah.
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  So much.
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  Yeah.
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  This is fucking Cal-Swift.
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  But we're going to be talking about,
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  this is the bulk,
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  going to be the bulk of the episode.
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  So fucking buckle in.
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  Moving up to Virgil Ortiz,
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  I guess UD over Madrimov,
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  interim WBC 154 title was on the line.
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  Let's go my man.
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  Virgil bro.
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  This is probably the best fight on the card.
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  Other than like,
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  like the probably the best fight in the card
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  from like a consistent,
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  like fun factor.
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  Yeah.
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  I agree.
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  It was, it was gangbusters.
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  I mean,
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  what was it a war?
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  Not really.
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  For the first half of the fight,
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  it was, it was mainly a tactical battle.
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  But that second half,
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  ooh boy.
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  That second half,
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  Dynamite.
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  Virgil's jab is just so, so effective in
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  letting him build his offense off of it.
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  The one thing that surprised me about Virgil this time
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  was not even his offense.
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  It was his defense.
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  He was so patient with the defense that
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  I was surprised.
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  There was this one time that,
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  that Madrimov,
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  what he just kept throwing
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  and I think it was 11th, right?
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  And Virgil Ortiz just kept blocking and moving.
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  I didn't know that he had a,
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  he kind of had that in him,
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  you know?
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  I think he would get kind of careless in the end.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, you saw it in the Boa Chuk fight.
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  Like,
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  Boa Chuk is like extremely competent and also just,
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  from Virgil's early career,
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  you would have expected him to get nailed by
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  counters like that, but no,
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  like he's really,
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  he's still with Robert Garcia, right?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Super credit to Robert Garcia for like patching up those,
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  like that impulsiveness that showed itself pretty early,
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  earlier in his career.
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  Yeah.
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  He never,
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  I thought that Madrimov was gonna have a different approach
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  because like in the first half,
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  like you were saying, Alex,
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  there was like a tactical,
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  technical sort of battle.
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  And then he's like,
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  oh shit, well, this is getting me nowhere.
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  Time to throw caution to the wind
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  and start throwing punches and seeing what lands.
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  But Virgil Ortiz, adaptability, versatility,
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  he worked through all of it.
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  And yeah, big, big ups to Robert Garcia.
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  The man is having a stellar year.
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  Yeah.
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  One fight not withstanding, you know?
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  Weirdly enough, I think it was a bit more,
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  it was more convincing for sure
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  than the Crawfords went over Madrimov,
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  just cause you saw more,
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  you saw more gears that Virgil could go through.
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  Like Crawford can adjust, but just in terms of pace, like.
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  Yeah.
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  There's more to this than just making
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  the technical adjustments.
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  There's like, how many gears can you really go through?
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  Is that, is that controversial right there?
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  Is that a controversial take?
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  That Virgil was a little more cynical than Crawford?
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  No, it's not even like.
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  It is win first Madrimov, specifically.
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  It is win first Madrimov, specifically.
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  Madrimov, yeah.
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  Like where you say, like it's a common opponent.
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  Madrimov is a weird opponent too.
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  So it's not, especially cause Virgil definitely had time
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  to adjust to this weight.
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  Crawford came off like,
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  beating the shit out of Spence,
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  moved up a weight class off a long layoff.
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  And whereas like Virgil, Virgil is a climatized here.
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  True.
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  Yeah.
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  Sex facts.
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  Different circumstances, but for sure.
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  I just feel like Virgil, it's definitely a youth thing,
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  but Virgil just has more gears to go through athletically
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  than Crawford does at this point.
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  There was this one time during the fight,
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  I forgot which round I was in,
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  but it was, it just, it was so beautiful.
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  I don't know if you guys remember this,
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  but Virgil was pawn at Madrimov and he pretended up like,
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  he pulled out of the glove, right?
• 16:56
  And he was gonna, he was gonna throw to the body, right?
• 17:02
  And then he went over the top.
• 17:03
  Oh my God.
• 17:04
  That was one of the most beautiful things
• 17:05
  I've seen from Virgil.
• 17:06
  I'm not fanboying here cause Virgil's my guy.
• 17:08
  I'm obviously gonna be biased at this, but.
• 17:10
  No, it's just fluid.
• 17:11
  It's just fluid though.
• 17:13
  His offense was amazing.
• 17:15
  I mean, it was just, it was spectacular.
• 17:17
  I think, I think it's probably one of,
• 17:18
  if not his best performance of his career.
• 17:21
  I mean, I'm excited to see where he goes for this.
• 17:23
  I mean, I hope that he gets a title shot,
• 17:26
  hopefully from Fundora if he wins this next fight,
• 17:28
  but we'll see what happens.
• 17:30
  154 is exciting.
• 17:32
  Like it's exciting like it was a couple of years ago,
• 17:34
  but like it's not in that like,
• 17:37
  like everyone can beat each other,
• 17:39
  but in the sense that they're all talented,
• 17:42
  they're not all equally flawed.
• 17:44
  Yeah, I mean, the styles are gonna make the fights.
• 17:46
  Yeah.
• 17:47
  It's gonna be at the end of the day.
• 17:48
  I mean.
• 17:49
  No one has any super deficiencies except for maybe Sue.
• 17:53
  We'll see what happens in the future.
• 17:54
  That one's gonna be interesting to see.
• 17:57
  For sure.
• 17:58
  So, but actually before we keep going
• 18:00
  with Virgil's next options,
• 18:02
  I wanted to ask what can Madrimov do from here?
• 18:06
  Cause I think the Boha Chuck fight is still on the table.
• 18:10
  Oh, absolutely.
• 18:11
  That's a fun fight.
• 18:12
  But I think the thing is that like you,
• 18:15
  that fight is a headliner in its own.
• 18:18
  Like just think,
• 18:20
  and also both guys have been off of like
• 18:23
  pretty grueling series of fights.
• 18:24
  Like you can build, you can,
• 18:27
  I'm not gonna say the word marinate
• 18:28
  cause it's like a dirty word in boxing,
• 18:30
  but it's a dirty word.
• 18:32
  But cause I'm not thinking about it
• 18:34
  from a business perspective.
• 18:35
  It's like let them show up in their best condition
• 18:38
  instead of shopworn from their recent
• 18:40
  actually really difficult run.
• 18:43
  So you want to build up the fight.
• 18:45
  Yeah.
• 18:46
  Have them fight like not even,
• 18:48
  cause they're like, they're all like top 10.
• 18:49
  Have them fight like a top 20 guy in the division,
• 18:52
  maybe bring up a welterweight who,
• 18:54
  like an older welterweight,
• 18:56
  like it's your time.
• 18:58
  Have them on the same card of the undercard
• 19:00
  of one of these Raj season cards.
• 19:02
  As like a comeback fight.
• 19:03
  Yeah.
• 19:05
  Let everyone see that they're not like just opponents.
• 19:08
  These guys can both headline and bang,
• 19:10
  and then you have them bang with each other.
• 19:13
  That's the thing though.
• 19:14
  I feel like doing that,
• 19:17
  they would lose the opportunity to fight each other
• 19:19
  at one point.
• 19:21
  Because I mean, assuming they do that,
• 19:22
  they're also going to be moving up in the ranks, correct?
• 19:24
  Yeah.
• 19:25
  Meaning other people would want to fight them.
• 19:27
  Yeah.
• 19:28
  They're out of the picture,
• 19:29
  but like in terms of like the,
• 19:31
  like the sort of thinning top of the division,
• 19:33
  cause the way it's just how it is,
• 19:35
  like these Raj season cards put a bunch of ranked opponents
• 19:38
  against each other.
• 19:39
  The top of the division kind of thins out.
• 19:42
  So once you're out,
• 19:45
  you're kind of out until the division sorts itself out.
• 19:48
  I can see what you're saying.
• 19:49
  I agree with you to a certain extent,
• 19:52
  but I don't think it's gotten to that point yet.
• 19:54
  No, not yet.
• 19:55
  I don't think they're at that point.
• 19:57
  No.
• 19:58
  I think the Crawford invasion
• 19:59
  just kind of shook up the division a little bit.
• 20:01
  Also with Charlo leaving the division as well,
• 20:05
  kind of shook it up as well.
• 20:06
  But I mean, I'm excited to see what's going to happen
• 20:08
  in the future cause it's heating up a lot.
• 20:11
  It's heating up a lot.
• 20:13
  And with Fendora having two titles,
• 20:15
  I mean, that's up for grabs.
• 20:17
  I mean, I don't want to hate on Fendora right now.
• 20:19
  He's a hell of a fighter,
• 20:21
  but for all the other guys in the division,
• 20:24
  it's two free titles for the taking in my opinion.
• 20:27
  But we'll get to that a little later on in the next podcast.
• 20:31
  When we talk about Fendora.
• 20:33
  But just this division is just,
• 20:35
  they're all very close.
• 20:38
  And they're all fun.
• 20:39
  It's not like, that's the big thing.
• 20:41
  Like as a viewer,
• 20:42
  as a viewer and like an enthusiast
• 20:45
  that these fights getting put together, they're fun.
• 20:46
  There's no Rigindow or a or Shakur up there.
• 20:49
  You know what I mean?
• 20:50
  They're all bang.
• 20:51
  They're all bang.
• 20:52
  Yeah.
• 20:53
  Which is be fun.
• 20:53
  I mean, this fight, you can say that maybe
• 20:55
  Israel Magrimon, he's a little,
• 20:58
  he kind of fights off the back foot.
• 20:59
  I mean, it's fine.
• 21:00
  You kind of did see, he did fight on the back foot a lot.
• 21:03
  But you know what?
• 21:04
  I think that's the most you're going to see
• 21:05
  out of the division.
• 21:06
  These fights.
• 21:07
  Yeah. There's something,
• 21:08
  there's something that we said about like a nice sloppy war,
• 21:10
  but also just, it's something that is the,
• 21:14
  like it's the sport at its best when you get guys
• 21:17
  who can box, like really box, but you know,
• 21:20
  they want to engage.
• 21:22
  And that's something you see a lot with this division.
• 21:24
  I think this division is going to become a classic.
• 21:26
  Offensive technicians versus defensive technicians.
• 21:30
  Oh yeah.
• 21:30
  Yeah.
• 21:31
  There's names.
• 21:32
  So what I want to see,
• 21:33
  someone I want to see get in the mix, like,
• 21:36
  regardless of like the top, how the very top.
• 21:39
  I want to see Charles Conwell
• 21:40
  start really getting in the mix here.
• 21:42
  Yeah.
• 21:43
  He could really shake things up.
• 21:45
  I've been a believer.
• 21:47
  I've been a believer.
• 21:48
  I haven't been on the podcast before.
• 21:49
  I've been a Charles Conwell believer.
• 21:52
  Yeah. I've been impressed with him.
• 21:53
  The last few fights I've watched.
• 21:55
  Yeah.
• 21:55
  We'll see what happens with him.
• 21:57
  Yeah.
• 21:58
  So I guarantee you this division is going to be a,
• 22:01
  a classic in the future though.
• 22:02
  Like people are going to remember this,
• 22:03
  like how people remember the welterweight division
• 22:05
  with Mayweather.
• 22:06
  You know what I mean?
• 22:07
  The last time that like it was Jarrett Hurd,
• 22:11
  Tony Harrison,
• 22:13
  Charlo,
• 22:14
  Brian Castaño.
• 22:15
  Charlo Castaño.
• 22:16
  Yeah.
• 22:16
  Those were the guys.
• 22:17
  But they were all, they all had,
• 22:19
  they was fun cause they were all flawed.
• 22:21
  Like here, there's no like-
• 22:23
  Also J-Rock and Lara,
• 22:24
  J-Rock.
• 22:25
  And J-Rock was at 154 at the time.
• 22:27
  Yeah.
• 22:28
  At the time, yeah.
• 22:30
  And for Virgil,
• 22:33
  it's got to be a title shot next, right?
• 22:36
  He has to.
• 22:37
  I'm raging.
• 22:39
  There can't be anything else.
• 22:41
  There's no, he needs to activate mandatory.
• 22:43
  He has two interim titles, correct?
• 22:45
  Yeah.
• 22:46
  I think so.
• 22:46
  Let me look on Box for a quick, hold up.
• 22:48
  Box rec is down at the moment.
• 22:50
  Box rec is down.
• 22:51
  It's actually horrible.
• 22:52
  It's actually horrible timing.
• 22:54
  Yeah, I know.
• 22:55
  I was trying to look up who was at a,
• 22:57
  when we were talking about the light heavyweights,
• 22:58
  I was quiet cause I'm like over here, like raging.
• 23:01
  Like what the fuck is wrong with it?
• 23:03
  Yeah.
• 23:05
  So I went to-
• 23:06
  ESPN got me.
• 23:08
  Yeah.
• 23:09
  Fight Facts, it's actually not too bad.
• 23:11
  He has a WBA gold.
• 23:13
  Whatever the hell that is.
• 23:15
  That's not an interim title.
• 23:17
  It's not.
• 23:18
  Regardless of his interim titles,
• 23:19
  I need to see like Bakram and Virgil.
• 23:22
  Yeah.
• 23:23
  Oh yeah.
• 23:24
  Mertzaliev and Virgil is just, they're just,
• 23:27
  they're good, good operators.
• 23:30
  Their offenses are stellar to watch.
• 23:33
  And they both, unless proven otherwise,
• 23:35
  they both have very solid chins that can hold up
• 23:38
  to what they can throw at each other.
• 23:40
  That's a classic.
• 23:42
  That's for sure a classic, but that's probably,
• 23:45
  that's going to be really dangerous for Virgil,
• 23:47
  in my opinion.
• 23:48
  Bakram is a guy you cannot mess with.
• 23:51
  You know, you cannot, like,
• 23:53
  you can't have any mistake with that guy.
• 23:55
  Cause he's going to catch you.
• 23:56
  Yeah, but as you mentioned,
• 23:57
  like the patience he showed in these last couple of fights
• 24:00
  is like, before,
• 24:03
  before we saw this like extra dimension mentally from him,
• 24:07
  you could be like, yeah,
• 24:08
  Bakram is going to catch him here with the patience.
• 24:11
  It's less likely that he gets caught super, super clean.
• 24:15
  For sure.
• 24:16
  Without his building himself first.
• 24:18
  Yeah.
• 24:19
  Cause that jab, like again,
• 24:21
  Virgil's jab is probably the best part of his offense.
• 24:24
  Cause you see like the clip you mentioned
• 24:26
  where he can paw at it, it only comes out of that,
• 24:29
  like a, like just piston like jab at the start of the fight.
• 24:32
  For sure.
• 24:33
  She always comes out firing that thing.
• 24:35
  With Bakram specifically,
• 24:38
  he's a really good finisher.
• 24:40
  Oh, absolutely.
• 24:42
  The way he finished Tim Tzu was scary.
• 24:44
  I remember watching that,
• 24:46
  it was, it's giving me flabby.
• 24:49
  I was in disbelief.
• 24:51
  But the way he finished Tim Tzu was crazy.
• 24:54
  So Virgil cannot mess up like that at all.
• 24:57
  No, absolutely.
• 24:58
  It's a good title shot though.
• 25:00
  It's a good title shot.
• 25:01
  Good as,
• 25:02
  good as match up.
• 25:03
  Yeah.
• 25:04
  Cause it's Fendora and then Crawford and Bakram.
• 25:08
  Crawford's moving up.
• 25:09
  So he's going to be vacating the title.
• 25:11
  So I mean, you can fight-
• 25:13
  Is number two in the WBA?
• 25:15
  Damn, I can't, I don't know if you can check.
• 25:16
  I'm looking this up, I got this.
• 25:18
  I got this.
• 25:18
  Yeah, I'm looking it up too.
• 25:20
  Cause maybe,
• 25:21
  maybe he could get a WBA title when Crawford vacates.
• 25:24
  Which I think-
• 25:25
  Yeah, you got Lubin.
• 25:26
  Lubin, right?
• 25:27
  Yeah, Lubin.
• 25:28
  It'd be Lubin or Jesus Ramos.
• 25:31
  Oh, okay.
• 25:32
  Pace Ramos, I got it.
• 25:34
  I would like for it to be Lubin simply
• 25:36
  so that he could be punished for being on the-
• 25:39
  Robbing Ramos.
• 25:40
  For robbing Ramos.
• 25:41
  Even though it wasn't his fault,
• 25:42
  he still has to pay for it.
• 25:44
  He's got to be punished.
• 25:45
  Yeah.
• 25:46
  Yeah.
• 25:47
  For benefiting.
• 25:48
  Lubin, Lubin, you were fun.
• 25:49
  We'll talk about Ramos too.
• 25:50
  You were fun as, you were fun to watch
• 25:52
  in the last era your time has come.
• 25:54
  All right, let's move on from Virgil
• 25:56
  to Ague Caballel, KO6 over G. Lay Zhang.
• 26:02
  I don't know what Caballel's theme song is
• 26:04
  so I'm gonna play the Joe Joyce one.
• 26:06
  Gonna cut it in right here.
• 26:08
  Cause man, Big Bang, very small bang.
• 26:13
  He got the knockdown.
• 26:15
  I think that was in round three.
• 26:16
  And that was it.
• 26:17
  I was worried, legitimately worried
• 26:19
  as I was really pulling for Caballel.
• 26:21
  I've been pulling for Caballel for a while.
• 26:24
  So I'm really happy to see the way this turned out.
• 26:27
  Is it bad that like, I really don't think
• 26:29
  this was like unexpected.
• 26:30
  Like, if I closed my eyes and thought
• 26:33
  of this matchup beforehand, I'd be like,
• 26:34
  yeah, it's about right.
• 26:36
  Caballel gets knocked down and then Zhang's body shuts down.
• 26:40
  No, I think you had a good intuition.
• 26:43
  Yeah, cause like Zhang, like remember his draw
• 26:46
  with Jerry Forrest where like he literally almost died.
• 26:49
  Like if Zhang is ever, like was ever gonna get stopped,
• 26:52
  it was gonna be on like a conditioning
• 26:54
  in like second, second ish half.
• 26:57
  And it was gonna be to the body.
• 26:59
  Yeah, that was probably the most valid way
• 27:02
  of knocking out Big Bang Zhang.
• 27:04
  It's not even via the knockup via the head.
• 27:07
  It was out of the body,
• 27:08
  just so it could make him a dick in the, you know.
• 27:10
  I think Alex, last time when we talked,
• 27:13
  when we were previewing it,
• 27:14
  you had mentioned Zhang and Killer Instinct.
• 27:18
  And I feel like the Killer Instinct failed him again,
• 27:22
  cause he had the knockup and Caballel was in trouble,
• 27:25
  but he didn't press the issue.
• 27:27
  He didn't press the issue.
• 27:28
  He let him get away with it pretty much.
• 27:30
  I don't understand why he keeps doing this.
• 27:34
  Honestly, I don't understand why I took that.
• 27:37
  I don't know why I had the thing, honestly.
• 27:38
  I should have realized that I was too high
• 27:40
  on the Zhang supply, in my opinion.
• 27:41
  It's just like a gas thing.
• 27:44
  Cause like you see with Joyce,
• 27:45
  with Joyce caught him so deep, but on these,
• 27:48
  like even Parker and stuff,
• 27:50
  he doesn't catch them that deep or that clean.
• 27:53
  Yeah.
• 27:54
  Like he's a very single shot guy.
• 27:58
  The thing with looking for a big bang.
• 28:01
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:04
  His legs just can't carry him any further.
• 28:07
  That's 41 year old man.
• 28:09
  I mean, George Horman is not, wasn't the most limber,
• 28:14
  like he was in the seventies when he like rumble
• 28:17
  in the jungle.
• 28:18
  It didn't make me sad to see Big Bang Zhang
• 28:21
  get knocked out like that though.
• 28:23
  It was pretty sad.
• 28:24
  I think he's still gonna be in the mix with these fights.
• 28:26
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 28:27
  Sure.
• 28:28
  We'll talk about it later,
• 28:28
  but I do want to see him with a certain fighter
• 28:30
  we're talking about in a bit.
• 28:31
  Coming up. Oh yeah.
• 28:33
  Honestly, I think about you.
• 28:35
  I want to see him.
• 28:36
  I kind of want to see him get a title shot now.
• 28:39
  Is that crazy to say that?
• 28:40
  I want to see him fight.
• 28:41
  He has an interim title now.
• 28:44
  I don't want to see him fight Lusik.
• 28:45
  Cause like, I feel like, like Lusik,
• 28:48
  like the way Caboil sets up his body attack is that like,
• 28:52
  just the way he does it,
• 28:55
  anyone with more speed than like the average heavyweight
• 28:58
  is going to feast on that.
• 29:01
  Sad to say.
• 29:03
  For sure.
• 29:04
  Yeah, you're right.
• 29:04
  You're right. You're right. You're right.
• 29:06
  It's gotta be later when Lusik's gone.
• 29:09
  Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Dubois.
• 29:11
  It's not gonna be long before Lusik's out.
• 29:13
  No, like Lusik's around, Lusik's two and done, right?
• 29:17
  I believe so.
• 29:18
  Yeah.
• 29:19
  He got two more left in him?
• 29:21
  That's what he says.
• 29:22
  Interesting.
• 29:23
  Maybe you could say fucking, you could fight,
• 29:25
  you could fight Big Bang Zhang.
• 29:26
  Honestly, if Zhang kind of did knock out Caboil,
• 29:31
  he would be the mandatory for Lusik.
• 29:34
  For Lusik.
• 29:34
  Yeah. I mean, that, that would have been like a,
• 29:38
  that would have been a weird timeline, huh?
• 29:40
  I think Zhang actually suffers heat stroke
• 29:41
  and dies in that fight.
• 29:43
  Yeah, probably.
• 29:44
  He fucking dies.
• 29:49
  Honestly, that was, that was kind of an interesting take
• 29:51
  for my part, but it's okay.
• 29:54
  I got to get back anyways.
• 29:56
  That wasn't that important.
• 29:57
  That one wasn't too crazy.
• 29:58
  Yeah.
• 29:59
  But we'll talk about my other one in a bit.
• 30:03
  Now, Shakur Stevenson, TK09 over very late replacement,
• 30:08
  Josh Padley.
• 30:09
  I, this is a, the fight played out similar to Yoshino
• 30:14
  in that Stevenson stood right in the pocket
• 30:17
  and traded with him, dodged everything pretty much,
• 30:21
  but was in the, in the zone, I guess.
• 30:26
  And it took him nine fucking rounds.
• 30:30
  I, I can't.
• 30:31
  Yeah. Nine fucking rounds.
• 30:34
  Are we gonna, are you guys gonna call on Shakur
• 30:37
  or do you want me to?
• 30:39
  Go ahead.
• 30:40
  Yeah, you kick it off.
• 30:41
  What do you got?
• 30:42
  The fact he went nine with someone like that,
• 30:45
  I mean, I got to give it to Josh Padley.
• 30:48
  In my eyes, he won the fight.
• 30:49
  I don't care what you all say.
• 30:50
  He won the story of the fight.
• 30:52
  He won the story of the fight and what, on a day notice
• 30:55
  or two day notice?
• 30:57
  Yep.
• 30:58
  He did the best he could have done.
• 31:00
  Okay.
• 31:01
  And what, look, the way that Shakur Stevenson fought that,
• 31:04
  I think he kind of injured his hand
• 31:06
  in the middle of the fight, right?
• 31:07
  He says he did, probably.
• 31:09
  He always says he always says he did though.
• 31:12
  Look, look, I think, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
• 31:16
  I think if Floyd Schofield was fighting him,
• 31:18
  hold up, hold up, hold up.
• 31:20
  If Floyd Schofield was fighting him,
• 31:22
  I think Floyd Schofield could have won that fight.
• 31:25
  I'm sorry.
• 31:26
  I'm sorry.
• 31:26
  That version of Shakur?
• 31:28
  Yeah.
• 31:30
  Yeah, but we know that version isn't showing up against
• 31:33
  Schofield.
• 31:34
  Schofield, like Schofield's a legitimate threat.
• 31:36
  It's a different guy.
• 31:37
  You get a Rigo Classic.
• 31:39
  Yeah, there you go.
• 31:41
  But he didn't, unfortunately.
• 31:43
  You guys believe the rumors with Schofield?
• 31:45
  That he was, not a poison.
• 31:48
  Not a poison.
• 31:49
  Poison.
• 31:49
  I didn't get, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 31:51
  Okay, I don't believe that.
• 31:52
  I do think he got sick though.
• 31:54
  Oh, absolutely.
• 31:55
  Like the, like, you know,
• 31:56
  your boy also got sick.
• 31:57
  Like that was just like, like definitely one guy had a cold
• 32:00
  and then one of those dumb ass press events,
• 32:03
  Turkey did spread around the illness.
• 32:05
  Honestly, I think that happened when they did that,
• 32:08
  the way they sat in the ring
• 32:10
  with that awful ass fucking interview.
• 32:12
  That, I think that's when they got it.
• 32:14
  Yeah.
• 32:15
  I was so scared for this whole card
• 32:16
  because when Schofield fell through
• 32:20
  and then Dubois fell through,
• 32:21
  I thought everybody else was gonna start falling.
• 32:24
  Especially BetterBF.
• 32:25
  BetterBF who's a-
• 32:26
  Fragile old man.
• 32:27
  Oh yeah.
• 32:28
  Yeah.
• 32:29
  I got scared for that.
• 32:30
  That was a big one.
• 32:31
  That, like, honestly, the people saying that
• 32:34
  Shakur poisoned Schofield is so funny.
• 32:37
  Cause I'm like, yeah,
• 32:38
  Shakur totally poisoned him
• 32:40
  so he could look like shit against an electrician.
• 32:44
  Yeah.
• 32:45
  The fix was in.
• 32:48
  The blue collar bomber.
• 32:50
  Oh, I love that.
• 32:51
  I love that.
• 32:52
  Yeah.
• 32:53
  Nah, like honestly, Josh Padley, credit to him.
• 32:57
  He went out there, exerted himself probably less
• 33:00
  than at his average shift that is an electrician
• 33:03
  and got to retire from it and actually follow his dream.
• 33:07
  Yeah.
• 33:08
  And you know what?
• 33:09
  Shakur, not only did he fight Shakur,
• 33:11
  he got to deal with Matchroom.
• 33:12
  Yep, he did.
• 33:13
  Oh, he won.
• 33:14
  He won.
• 33:15
  Like he's totally getting paid.
• 33:17
  He might just get a rematch with Shakur in the future.
• 33:19
  No.
• 33:20
  I hope not.
• 33:22
  Yeah.
• 33:23
  Fuck yeah, I wanna see that.
• 33:25
  I kinda do wanna see it.
• 33:26
  Padley seeing he signed with Matchroom
• 33:28
  only to cease fighting a unknown Mexican
• 33:31
  with a 22, four and one record.
• 33:34
  22 with 20 knockouts.
• 33:36
  20 knockouts.
• 33:38
  Nickname is some kind of animal.
• 33:41
  Tiger.
• 33:42
  Tiger, I don't know.
• 33:43
  Tiger, yeah.
• 33:45
  But do you guys agree with my take
• 33:50
  about how Schofield could have beat him,
• 33:52
  that Shakur that night?
• 33:54
  The Stevenson that showed up versus Padley, probably.
• 33:57
  Yes.
• 33:58
  Thank you, thank you.
• 33:59
  Okay, I'm cool with that, I'm cool with that.
• 34:01
  Yeah.
• 34:02
  All right.
• 34:03
  Now we're gonna give you another chance to shine here.
• 34:06
  Carlos Adamas. Oh my God.
• 34:07
  Split draw, Hamza Shiraz.
• 34:10
  I was pulling for Shiraz.
• 34:13
  We talked about that.
• 34:14
  I am actually, this is very disappointing for Shiraz.
• 34:17
  That was dog shit from Shiraz.
• 34:20
  That was a dog shit performance.
• 34:22
  Carlos Adamas fucking won.
• 34:24
  There's no question in my mind about it.
• 34:27
  All right. Yeah.
• 34:28
  There you go, go off.
• 34:29
  Okay, dude.
• 34:30
  Hold up.
• 34:31
  Respectfully, respectfully.
• 34:33
  Fuck y'all. Oh no.
• 34:35
  Fuck y'all, I knew, I know, I knew.
• 34:37
  I knew Carlos Adamas was gonna win.
• 34:39
  And they fucking robbed him.
• 34:40
  They fucking robbed the guy.
• 34:42
  Robbed.
• 34:43
  He went to Rio, not Rio, he went to Riyadh
• 34:46
  and fought in a kangaroo core ass fight.
• 34:49
  That was some of the bullshit things I've ever seen.
• 34:53
  Actually, hold up, I don't wanna say,
• 34:54
  I don't wanna spoil it,
• 34:55
  but that was bullshit until recently,
• 34:58
  which we'll talk about next podcast.
• 35:00
  But Carlos Adamas came to Riyadh,
• 35:04
  fought fucking, he fought Turkey's lap dog.
• 35:09
  He fought Turkey's lap dog.
• 35:10
  You saw it during the fight, dude.
• 35:12
  You saw in the middle of the fight
• 35:13
  that Turkey went up to Hamza Shiraz's corner
• 35:16
  and told him you're down this, this and that.
• 35:18
  Remember?
• 35:20
  So about that, what I heard is also that
• 35:24
  he went to tell Shiraz himself about the scoring
• 35:28
  and he sent someone else to Adamas's corner
• 35:30
  to tell them the scoring.
• 35:32
  But people only saw Turkey
• 35:35
  because he's noticeable.
• 35:39
  Oh, okay.
• 35:40
  It's open scoring.
• 35:41
  WBC, they do it all the time.
• 35:44
  So this isn't a surprise.
• 35:45
  Yeah, like, what was it?
• 35:47
  Morel is Danny Garcia.
• 35:50
  Canelo Austin Trout.
• 35:51
  It's the same way, yeah.
• 35:53
  As my fault, I thought that it was only Turkey.
• 35:57
  I thought so too.
• 35:58
  But you can blame that on how the zone presents things though.
• 36:02
  That's just always, that's a production error.
• 36:05
  Because they have the ability to just show both corners.
• 36:09
  Yeah.
• 36:10
  Yeah.
• 36:11
  It's just a production problem.
• 36:12
  You could tell that everybody thought Hamza Shiraz lost.
• 36:16
  Okay.
• 36:17
  Except, of course, certain person named
• 36:22
  the Turkey, all the sheiks, the fix was them.
• 36:24
  And I'm pissed.
• 36:26
  I was pissed.
• 36:27
  Rightfully so.
• 36:28
  Because I would, Leo, you know,
• 36:31
  you know I chose Carlos Adamas, dude.
• 36:32
  Yeah, I know.
• 36:33
  And also, to all the fucking people that called in
• 36:38
  and told me I was wrong, okay?
• 36:41
  Y'all are casuals.
• 36:42
  You see how much knowledge they have from that, okay?
• 36:45
  I don't care what y'all say.
• 36:47
  I had that right.
• 36:48
  I had that right.
• 36:49
  All the casuals.
• 36:50
  I'm a fucking casual.
• 36:51
  This is shots fired to my own kind at this point
• 36:55
  because I am actually a casual as well.
• 36:57
  But at the same time, I was right about Carlos Adamas, okay?
• 37:02
  I was right.
• 37:04
  And I'm proud of that.
• 37:05
  I don't care what anybody says to me.
• 37:07
  Yeah, you're right.
• 37:08
  I was right about Carlos Adamas.
• 37:08
  You're right.
• 37:09
  Yeah.
• 37:10
  You were right.
• 37:11
  Thank you.
• 37:12
  Thank you.
• 37:13
  I am so severely disappointed in Hamza Shiraz.
• 37:16
  Having actually watched him, like up to now.
• 37:18
  Yeah, exactly.
• 37:20
  Bam, this guy's game is so flat.
• 37:22
  Do you think he was sick too, like everyone else?
• 37:25
  Maybe?
• 37:26
  No.
• 37:27
  Yeah, actually Adamas poisoned them.
• 37:28
  That's the theory.
• 37:29
  Yeah, he's real.
• 37:30
  Yeah, he put him on the floor.
• 37:31
  Real ones know.
• 37:32
  Real eyes, real eyes.
• 37:34
  Yeah.
• 37:37
  He got fucking the poison spell rolled for initiative.
• 37:43
  He got a fucking one.
• 37:45
  Sucks to suck, Hamza.
• 37:47
  Perkyu just evening the, thumb on the scales, evening it out.
• 37:51
  Yeah.
• 37:52
  What do you guys think Hamza Shiraz goes from here?
• 37:55
  That is a good question.
• 37:56
  I would say-
• 37:57
  Hopefully a rematch.
• 37:58
  They should do that again.
• 37:59
  They'll run it back.
• 38:01
  I do not wanna see, fuck it.
• 38:02
  I don't wanna see Hamza Shiraz near a title shot.
• 38:05
  Hey, I honestly, hey, honestly, this is a bit of a karmic
• 38:08
  justice, I'd say, considering you can debate that
• 38:13
  with Adamas Rob Dervichenko back in 2021.
• 38:20
  You can't?
• 38:21
  If you want to?
• 38:22
  You totally can't.
• 38:23
  That was a majority decision.
• 38:25
  Like I feel like it was a bit of karmic justice.
• 38:27
  Having no stake in this game other than disappointment.
• 38:31
  I will say, you know what, honestly, you are right.
• 38:34
  But at the same time, Hamza Shiraz is also Turkey's laptop.
• 38:38
  This is a whole different ball game compared to that fight.
• 38:42
  They're just muslims, I don't know.
• 38:45
  I don't think they know each other personally or anything.
• 38:48
  Is that sarcasm?
• 38:51
  No.
• 38:53
  You don't think that Turkey stuck his neck out for Hamza?
• 38:56
  Oh, he did.
• 38:57
  I'm not saying he didn't.
• 38:58
  He did.
• 38:59
  No, but for next steps, who in the middleweight division
• 39:03
  do we actually wanna see a fight?
• 39:05
  Like fight, it's such a dead division.
• 39:09
  I wanna see Janubek.
• 39:10
  Janubek is all there is.
• 39:12
  Yeah, Janubek and like,
• 39:15
  everybody's writing Lara in the retirement home.
• 39:18
  I just want Lara's belt.
• 39:20
  He can keep fighting only once.
• 39:21
  Just stop holding that thing hostage, please.
• 39:24
  Well, he's gotta,
• 39:25
  but someone's gotta beat him for it though.
• 39:28
  It's not like he hasn't fought other middleweights.
• 39:32
  Well, you can't be fighting like Moshe Suleki
• 39:34
  or Danny Garcia or fucking Shane Mosley Jr.
• 39:37
  and be expecting-
• 39:38
  Like who else is there?
• 39:41
  They can have an in-house unification.
• 39:43
  Yeah, like give me like, yeah, actually.
• 39:45
  That would be a perfect,
• 39:46
  that would be a perfect unification right there.
• 39:48
  It's perfect.
• 39:49
  See the shitty part there though,
• 39:52
  is that I think Lara beats Adamas.
• 39:55
  No.
• 39:55
  No, no, no.
• 39:56
  I think Lara beats Adamas.
• 39:58
  Late stage tomorrow, man.
• 40:00
  Late stage Lara hits different.
• 40:03
  No, I think-
• 40:04
  He doesn't have the legs to move,
• 40:06
  so he actually has to use his offense now.
• 40:08
  Yep.
• 40:09
  I think Adamas wins that fight.
• 40:11
  I'm not trying to be an Adamas laser,
• 40:13
  because if anything, I'm a Janabek laser,
• 40:15
  but I don't want to see
• 40:17
  here's Lamy Lara versus Janabek,
• 40:18
  that would be boring.
• 40:21
  I don't think so.
• 40:22
  Yeah.
• 40:23
  I think Lara, Lara without legs is a-
• 40:26
  Lara isn't boring and hasn't been for a bit.
• 40:28
  He just like, he's so old.
• 40:29
  He can't move.
• 40:30
  He can't run over.
• 40:31
  He's not used to it.
• 40:32
  It's not from, no,
• 40:33
  I'm not saying it's boring from Lara's part.
• 40:35
  It would be boring from Janabek's part.
• 40:38
  Has Janabek really showed that much of a ceiling though?
• 40:41
  Like I don't, no, no fault of his own.
• 40:44
  Middleweight kind of stinks.
• 40:46
  Yeah, it's not his fault.
• 40:47
  But he did, he did come up
• 40:49
  under the top rank protection program.
• 40:51
  Yeah.
• 40:53
  That's true.
• 40:54
  Honestly, you know what?
• 40:56
  You can hate me for this.
• 40:57
  I kind of, I kind of want to see Janabek versus Canelo.
• 41:01
  I do.
• 41:02
  I said that a while ago.
• 41:04
  Yeah.
• 41:05
  Yeah, he's better.
• 41:05
  He's better.
• 41:06
  He's better than, yeah.
• 41:09
  He's got power.
• 41:11
  He's got power.
• 41:12
  He's got, he's got good boxing skill.
• 41:13
  I think that could, that could really kind of throw Canelo,
• 41:16
  throw Canelo on the wind.
• 41:17
  That's exactly why he's not gonna fight him fucking ever.
• 41:21
  Yeah, exactly.
• 41:22
  That's why he's never really getting any fights ever.
• 41:23
  Saul de Nero Alvarez.
• 41:27
  Payday, payday, you won payday.
• 41:30
  Bottom line, dude, I'll take this dub.
• 41:34
  Yeah.
• 41:35
  Even though it was a draw on paper, he still won a mice.
• 41:39
  I think one never else is coming up too.
• 41:42
  Oh yeah.
• 41:42
  Well, that was a little more technical,
• 41:44
  but I'll talk about that next week.
• 41:46
  More draws.
• 41:48
  All right, moving up.
• 41:49
  Joseph fucking Parker, just Mercs, Martin Bacoli.
• 41:54
  Bacoli came in on a few days notice,
• 41:56
  like just like Josh Padley did.
• 41:58
  So 315 pound African fellow coming from the Congo
• 42:03
  coming out of nowhere.
• 42:06
  He's a, they keep, they kept calling him
• 42:08
  the dark horse of heavyweight.
• 42:10
  I absolutely agree with that, but let's not, I don't know.
• 42:15
  I think we're putting too much stock
• 42:16
  in this win for Joseph Parker.
• 42:18
  Like Bacoli is a guy who very clearly
• 42:21
  and always has never trained outside of camp.
• 42:26
  The only rounds he's doing
• 42:27
  if he doesn't have a fight scheduled
• 42:29
  are at the buffet with Dan Raphael.
• 42:33
  This guy is not training.
• 42:34
  This guy like rolled off the couch
• 42:37
  and cashed like probably eight on the plane.
• 42:41
  Well, honestly, you gotta give respect to Bacoli dude.
• 42:45
  He took the spot.
• 42:46
  Yeah, he stepped in.
• 42:47
  The fight was gonna get canceled, but he stepped in.
• 42:50
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 42:51
  How many people do you think, and also kind of like.
• 42:54
  He torpedoed his ranking.
• 42:56
  Yeah, like higher, higher, higher rankings, you know,
• 42:59
  would go and do that.
• 43:00
  I don't think I really, anybody's done that in boxing.
• 43:05
  I don't even know how long ago.
• 43:06
  Like respect.
• 43:07
  I don't think Pacquiao did it,
• 43:08
  but that was the last time I remember that.
• 43:11
  How I feel about Parker has not changed though.
• 43:15
  No, yeah, that's the only way to put it.
• 43:17
  I also don't think any differently about Bacoli either.
• 43:21
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  The Bevil majority decision over Archer Better Biev.
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  I am of the mind, even though I feel
• 46:12
  Better Biev won the first, or not Better Biev,
• 46:14
  Bevil won the first fight.
• 46:16
  I feel Bevil won this one too,
• 46:18
  but they wanted to set up the trilogy.
• 46:22
  I feel like they're pretty good.
• 46:24
  This fight, this fight is how the first one should've gone.
• 46:29
  It should not have taken Bevil 24 rounds
• 46:33
  to get the, like, to figure out
• 46:39
  like the ghost of Better Biev.
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  Remember Leo, when we were talking last week
• 46:43
  about how we didn't think Bevil could fight
• 46:46
  a more perfect fight,
• 46:48
  like he already fought the perfect fight?
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  Yeah.
• 46:51
  I didn't think it was possible to be wrong about that,
• 46:53
  but we were wrong.
• 46:55
  I think Bevil fought an even better fight
• 46:57
  than the first time.
• 46:58
  He won this one more definitively.
• 47:01
  Oh yeah, for sure.
• 47:03
  And you know what?
• 47:04
  The rules were flipped, where Bevil,
• 47:07
  Bevil came all out past the sixth round, right?
• 47:11
  But he kind of played possum for the first six,
• 47:14
  the latter half of the fight, he just gave it his all.
• 47:17
  Well, it's not a defect that Bevil has,
• 47:20
  because he has his style,
• 47:21
  but he's always just never put on, like,
• 47:24
  like against an opponent,
• 47:26
  like, see, didn't, like,
• 47:27
  it's just a lack of like an exclamation mark
• 47:31
  when it matters.
• 47:32
  Cause like, yeah, you can shoe shine,
• 47:34
  like Joe Smith in the 12th round
• 47:36
  of a match you've 12-0'd him for,
• 47:38
  but like, there's just a lack of urgency
• 47:41
  that's shown up sometimes.
• 47:43
  Like you're telling me that Craig Richards
• 47:45
  really belonged in there with him for 12?
• 47:48
  I don't know.
• 47:49
  But he's a boxing robot.
• 47:51
  You program him with the game plan.
• 47:54
  That's what he does.
• 47:55
  Oh, absolutely.
• 47:56
  I'm not saying there's anything super wrong with it,
• 47:59
  but just-
• 48:00
  It's a feature, it's not a bug.
• 48:02
  Yeah, but with there, like in terms of like,
• 48:05
  when you're in, like,
• 48:06
  with the elite, elite opponents of your career,
• 48:08
  you just need that exclamation mark over a round.
• 48:13
  A fire round.
• 48:14
  We're gonna talk about this with our,
• 48:16
  in the next podcast, we're like specifically like,
• 48:20
  I'm gonna talk about like the need for an exclamation mark.
• 48:24
  Yeah.
• 48:25
  A fire.
• 48:26
  We have the benefit of every camera view possible.
• 48:32
  These judges sit on one side of the ring
• 48:35
  and like sometimes you don't see the finer work,
• 48:39
  which is why the exclamation mark,
• 48:40
  even if it's not as effective as your other work,
• 48:43
  it's just needed.
• 48:45
  So all the judges see it.
• 48:46
  I think better be of should, is it about time?
• 48:49
  He's gonna do the trilogy, of course,
• 48:52
  but after that, is there anything?
• 48:55
  No, that's it.
• 48:56
  There's nothing for him to do.
• 48:58
  This-
• 48:59
  I don't want to see trilogy.
• 49:00
  I don't either.
• 49:01
  To be fair, these fights are good, good enough that like,
• 49:04
  I could watch these guys fight each other every four months
• 49:06
  and keep flipping the result.
• 49:08
  For sure.
• 49:09
  Like, I just think like,
• 49:13
  do one more just so that way you have like,
• 49:16
  Bival can really stamp a unanimous decision.
• 49:20
  And like we get,
• 49:22
  cause Bival improved throughout these fights
• 49:24
  as they went on.
• 49:26
  We get like a real peak Bival that he,
• 49:29
  like a level that he hopefully stays at
• 49:32
  and then better be of can just like retire having
• 49:36
  only fallen short against the absolute best of the era.
• 49:40
  The thing is, Bival won two times.
• 49:43
  I don't need to see a third.
• 49:45
  And the thing is that,
• 49:46
  what if better be does win third?
• 49:48
  What happens?
• 49:49
  Do you have to do a fourth?
• 49:50
  No, I wouldn't mind it either,
• 49:53
  but I think that they would call it-
• 49:56
  It needs to be decisive though.
• 49:58
  That's the thing.
• 49:59
  Like if better be of catches him, stops him,
• 50:02
  it like say what you will about,
• 50:04
  yeah, 36 rounds for one punch, but it is what it is.
• 50:08
  It's decisive.
• 50:10
  Pacquiao, Marquez.
• 50:11
  I would get-
• 50:12
  I liked, I really liked this fight.
• 50:14
  In all fairness, Marquez,
• 50:16
  if it wasn't for like the 6 million knockdowns
• 50:19
  in the first round of their first fight,
• 50:20
  Marquez totally owned him.
• 50:24
  Marquez just had his number.
• 50:26
  It's true.
• 50:27
  It's true.
• 50:28
  And I think with Bival better be of,
• 50:32
  I just want to see Benavides get a title shot.
• 50:34
  Please.
• 50:35
  That's it.
• 50:36
  That's it.
• 50:37
  He's been sidelined his whole career besides the-
• 50:41
  Well, it's his own fault though.
• 50:43
  Like 168, it was his own fault.
• 50:46
  It was his own fault.
• 50:47
  He got stripped twice for things that were his fault.
• 50:50
  Yeah, but you know what?
• 50:51
  He had a comeback, dude.
• 50:53
  He came back and he was healthy.
• 50:55
  I think he deserved it.
• 50:57
  You fumbled two shots at a Canelo payday
• 51:00
  because Canelo at that point in time
• 51:02
  was just going to go for the titles.
• 51:03
  Well, was Canelo, did he get vacated?
• 51:08
  He had the W title.
• 51:11
  He missed the weight once and then popped for cocaine once.
• 51:16
  Well, the thing is for that,
• 51:18
  was that during Canelo's 168 run or was that before?
• 51:23
  The cocaine was at the start of it.
• 51:26
  Bringing it back to light heavyweight real quick.
• 51:30
  So we can wrap up this portion.
• 51:32
  We got fucking, so the rematch is next, unfortunately.
• 51:41
  Would you call it the three match?
• 51:43
  I like that one.
• 51:49
  I think-
• 51:50
  Repeat, repeat or revenge.
• 51:53
  I think a good holding fight is Callum Smith
• 51:58
  versus Benavides, they're both mandatories.
• 52:04
  I don't think that goes well for Callum Smith
• 52:07
  and he probably wouldn't take it
• 52:09
  like when he could just wait and get a title shot.
• 52:12
  Oh, he gets his ass beat so bad.
• 52:16
  Yeah, I just want Benavides
• 52:17
  to be the undisputed mandatory challenger.
• 52:23
  Why?
• 52:24
  You can stick Boatsy Kvostik.
• 52:25
  You can make that a light heavyweight bonanza
• 52:26
  because you do Boatsy Kvostik, you do Morel Yard.
• 52:30
  I do not want to see Benavides become the first
• 52:35
  undisputed interim light heavyweight title holder.
• 52:39
  At light heavyweight, of course.
• 52:41
  Williams of Peta did it at light weight.
• 52:45
  So that's fun.
• 52:47
  Oh yeah.
• 52:47
  That would be horrible.
• 52:50
  Be hilarious, but it would be horrible.
• 52:54
  Anything more for the Riyadh card?
• 52:56
  Should we move on?
• 52:59
  That's the best card ever.
• 53:00
  Ever.
• 53:01
  I think that, I just want to say that
• 53:03
  it was a little underwhelming, I'm not gonna lie,
• 53:08
  but on paper it was supposed to be
• 53:10
  the best card of the century.
• 53:12
  Okay, the next one is the best card of the century.
• 53:15
  There you go.
• 53:17
  It's always coming soon, trademark.
• 53:20
  Canelo versus William Skull, a fan favorite.
• 53:24
  No, I was talking about the Arkham Asylum
• 53:27
  in the Times Square.
• 53:29
  Oh, Fatal Fury.
• 53:32
  Fatal Fury is the...
• 53:34
  Versus Ben.
• 53:35
  No, I'm talking about the mental patients at 140
• 53:38
  that they're just releasing on Times Square.
• 53:43
  That's gonna be an interesting fight right there.
• 53:46
  All right, let me do this really quick.
• 53:50
  All right, that's the separation.
• 53:52
  And moving into previews.
• 53:55
  Not a whole lot going on.
• 53:58
  So I really scraped the bottom of the barrel here.
• 54:01
  In Indio, California, on the zone, Golden Boy Fight Night.
• 54:08
  I don't know who these dudes are.
• 54:10
  Grant Flores versus Laquan Evans, that's the headline.
• 54:14
  There's a Mongolian dude in the co-main
• 54:16
  and Mongolian people are rugged.
• 54:21
  So that's a, if nothing else, tune in for that one,
• 54:24
  at the very least.
• 54:26
  But that's on the sixth, Thursday.
• 54:29
  Friday, March 7th, bunch of bullshit.
• 54:34
  Boxer, this one's on Peacock in the US.
• 54:37
  Oh, come on.
• 54:38
  Carolyn DuBois is from The Watch.
• 54:40
  Yes, this one's not actually bullshit.
• 54:43
  Carolyn DuBois is actually from The Watch.
• 54:45
  It's not that terrible.
• 54:46
  Natasha Jonas versus Lauren Price is a headline.
• 54:49
  I believe it's a three belt unification.
• 54:54
  And that should be fun.
• 54:55
  I believe there's a bit of a rivalry there.
• 54:58
  And yeah, Carolyn DuBois.
• 55:00
  If he can stand the ruleset of women's boxing, it's fun.
• 55:04
  Actually, the one in a moment,
• 55:05
  it's gonna be interesting note to add to it.
• 55:08
  But yeah, the women's rules are lame.
• 55:12
  It's unfortunate.
• 55:13
  They deserve better.
• 55:15
  WBC lightweight champ,
• 55:17
  Caroline DuBois in the co-main verse, Bomi Reysheen.
• 55:21
  That's fun.
• 55:23
  That'll be interesting.
• 55:26
  Wasserman.
• 55:28
  You can see a very keyed up Sauerland brother.
• 55:36
  Chances are you'll catch one of them on the camera.
• 55:38
  Two fights only really worth it.
• 55:40
  Michael Conlon.
• 55:41
  Yeah, Mickey Conlon is back versus Asad Asif Khan.
• 55:45
  Don't know who that is.
• 55:47
  That's a 130.
• 55:48
  Looking to get back in the top 500.
• 55:51
  Hey.
• 55:53
  And Harlem Eubank versus Tyrone McKenna,
• 55:55
  IBF Intercontinental 147.
• 56:00
  Both of those start about midday.
• 56:03
  I don't know where to watch the Wasserman card.
• 56:06
  So I can't, I don't know.
• 56:07
  Put your sales up.
• 56:12
  Oh.
• 56:13
  We're gonna see the high seas.
• 56:14
  Look who decided to join me.
• 56:16
  It's Tubbs.
• 56:18
  Hey buddy.
• 56:19
  All right.
• 56:21
  Moving on.
• 56:21
  Last card for the seventh.
• 56:23
  This is on Dazon.
• 56:26
  Most valuable promotions.
• 56:28
  Jake Paul?
• 56:29
  No.
• 56:30
  His promo, yeah, but not him not fighting.
• 56:34
  Watch.
• 56:35
  One card.
• 56:35
  No.
• 56:36
  Or one fight on the card worth that I honestly
• 56:39
  can only recognize is Lucas Boddy.
• 56:42
  He's back after that great.
• 56:45
  This is a MVP.
• 56:46
  K.O. of the year.
• 56:47
  Yeah. K.O. comeback of the year.
• 56:49
  This is MVP slash matchroom as I understand it.
• 56:54
  And he's fighting Ryan James Rekaza.
• 57:00
  That's.
• 57:00
  That's gonna be.
• 57:01
  Is he even ranked?
• 57:04
  Honestly, my comment about these cards.
• 57:09
  No.
• 57:10
  Doesn't look like it.
• 57:11
  Probably actually.
• 57:12
  Probably like top 20 in like the WBA or something honestly.
• 57:17
  The ranking, like these numbers that I have here
• 57:20
  are from box.
• 57:21
  These are like low key like.
• 57:25
  Low key what?
• 57:28
  Low key they're like pro box cards though
• 57:30
  and like their fun value.
• 57:31
  They're not as meaningful at all
• 57:32
  because you're just building prospects.
• 57:34
  Yeah, they're developmental.
• 57:34
  Like they're fun.
• 57:35
  Yeah.
• 57:37
  I always point them out
• 57:38
  because like if you like boxing or if you love it,
• 57:41
  watch it.
• 57:43
  That's all it really is to do is watch it.
• 57:46
  No.
• 57:47
  You got nothing to do after work.
• 57:49
  Like it's this or cracking the hog.
• 57:51
  This is better.
• 57:53
  All right.
• 57:54
  We like.
• 57:55
  All right.
• 57:56
  Saturday, March 8th.
• 57:58
  Really just one really quickly.
• 58:00
  Danny Swift Garcia.
• 58:02
  He's in the promotion game now.
• 58:05
  This fight is gonna be on this new service
• 58:07
  that I just found out about.
• 58:08
  So it's new to me.
• 58:09
  BXNGTV.com.
• 58:13
  That's Boxing TV, right?
• 58:15
  Pro box.
• 58:16
  Actually like low key, good.
• 58:20
  The lot of games on here that I don't really recognize.
• 58:23
  Gabriel Murataya.
• 58:25
  He's a Robert Garcia kid.
• 58:27
  He's actually pretty damn good.
• 58:29
  Not as good as his brother obviously, but.
• 58:31
  Nicholas Walters is still around.
• 58:33
  Yeah.
• 58:34
  So moving up.
• 58:36
  One.
• 58:37
  Let me cherry pick on the way up here.
• 58:39
  So I gave you Gabe Murataya.
• 58:41
  Kelvin Davis, DB3 on me.
• 58:44
  DB3 on me.
• 58:45
  As of right now, I don't know who his opponent is.
• 58:48
  So I don't know.
• 58:50
  The last two fights on the bill, the top, the co-main.
• 58:53
  Luis Torres Valenzuela versus Nicholas Walters.
• 58:56
  Yes, that Nicholas Walters.
• 58:58
  And Arnold Kegay versus Joed Gonzalez.
• 59:02
  The co-main looks pretty good.
• 59:07
  So that's.
• 59:08
  Main's gonna be fun as hell.
• 59:09
  Yeah.
• 59:10
  It's just like boxing.
• 59:12
  The main is really fun.
• 59:14
  Yeah.
• 59:16
  That's just gotta be their tagline at this point.
• 59:19
  Low key.
• 59:19
  We're like the pro box of.
• 59:21
  It's a low key guitar.
• 59:23
  This podcast is like the pro box of podcasts, yeah.
• 59:26
  We're like the low key.
• 59:29
  I usually say this.
• 59:30
  Low key but good.
• 59:31
  Yeah.
• 59:32
  I usually say this on the MMA show where it's like,
• 59:34
  sorry, the MMA people, but boxing is,
• 59:38
  that's where it's at this weekend.
• 59:40
  This time, like, I think UFC 313.
• 59:46
  It's looking a little bit more stacked.
• 59:49
  That might be why.
• 59:50
  Get yourself a second.
• 59:50
  Get your shit on on this one.
• 59:53
  Get a second monitor, have pro box, have UFC
• 59:56
  and alternate between the one that
• 59:59
  is more fun at the moment.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  Pro box.
• 1:00:03
  Not play.
• 1:00:06
  Well, that's it.
• 1:00:07
  That's the pro box.
• 1:00:09
  We're pro pro box on this podcast.
• 1:00:11
  I'm gonna show it to the day I die.
• 1:00:13
  For sure.
• 1:00:14
  I have never said a negative thing about pro box
• 1:00:17
  and it's because I fucking, I mean it.
• 1:00:19
  I have nothing negative to say about them.
• 1:00:23
  Even Paulie, who as a person outside of the boxing sphere,
• 1:00:28
  I really don't care for him, but he's awesome on the show.
• 1:00:32
  On every show.
• 1:00:33
  When he's commentating, he cares about,
• 1:00:36
  again, like this leads to my greater point.
• 1:00:40
  He loves boxing.
• 1:00:41
  It's not about him.
• 1:00:42
  It's about the fight in front of him.
• 1:00:44
  Sometimes his bias leaks through towards like
• 1:00:47
  boxers versus punchers, but like,
• 1:00:49
  Of course.
• 1:00:50
  That's just part of the flavor though.
• 1:00:52
  You know what you're getting.
• 1:00:54
  Algerian is in the same way, but he can respect punchers
• 1:00:57
  just cause he's been in with some solid ones.
• 1:01:01
  He's gotten hit by punchers and Connor Benz.
• 1:01:06
  Chris, Chris Algerian is a pretty good fighter.
• 1:01:07
  Not a pretty good fighter, a pretty good commentator.
• 1:01:09
  I like him.
• 1:01:09
  I like him as a commentator a lot.
• 1:01:11
  Dude is really smart.
• 1:01:13
  Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  All right, let me do this thing.
• 1:01:15
  It's just people paired with.
• 1:01:18
  All right.
• 1:01:20
  Do you guys remember when I fought Sean Porter?
• 1:01:23
  Y'all remember when I fought Zadjudo?
• 1:01:25
  He doesn't do that.
• 1:01:27
  Fucking when you got wrecked by Errol Spence, buddy.
• 1:01:33
  I remember when they pulled him off.
• 1:01:35
  They pulled him off the commentary booth
• 1:01:36
  to go get his ass kicked by Connor Benz.
• 1:01:40
  That was my side piece.
• 1:01:42
  That was my side piece.
• 1:01:43
  Yeah.
• 1:01:44
  That was malanaji.
• 1:01:45
  Yeah.
• 1:01:50
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• 1:03:05
  Right, so we're gonna wrap up here.
• 1:03:08
  Parting words.
• 1:03:09
  I'll start with this one.
• 1:03:11
  Actually, you said side piece and maybe it reminded me
• 1:03:14
  that I've been running those with Shannada
• 1:03:17
  since she's out in Japan scheduling
• 1:03:19
  with you guys is a little difficult.
• 1:03:21
  So we've been doing that.
• 1:03:23
  It's a little bit looser of a framework
• 1:03:27
  where we're not running down every single card
• 1:03:29
  that's coming up, but it's still a lot of fun.
• 1:03:33
  So keep your eye out for that.
• 1:03:35
  And fucking, dude, watch ProBox.
• 1:03:39
  Watch it.
• 1:03:40
  ProBox good.
• 1:03:42
  The zone bad.
• 1:03:45
  Top rank worse.
• 1:03:48
  At least.
• 1:03:49
  GBC's on the floor.
• 1:03:51
  At least top rank.
• 1:03:53
  And ProBox, they both broadcast in 1080p.
• 1:04:00
  And the zone is still in fucking DVD quality.
• 1:04:04
  Isn't that crazy how fucking ProBox
• 1:04:06
  has better quality than the fucking Card of the Century?
• 1:04:09
  Yeah.
• 1:04:10
  It's crazy, huh?
• 1:04:12
  Hey, it's no longer the Card of the Century.
• 1:04:14
  The next one's the Card of the Century.
• 1:04:16
  They'll get it right on the next one.
• 1:04:18
  That's true.
• 1:04:22
  All right, partying.
• 1:04:23
  Yeah, that's just like...
• 1:04:26
  Oh, I kept it to six words.
• 1:04:28
  Whatever you want.
• 1:04:30
  Yeah, I'll repeat my six words.
• 1:04:33
  ProBox good.
• 1:04:35
  The zone bad.
• 1:04:37
  Top rank worse.
• 1:04:39
  That's good.
• 1:04:40
  That's good.
• 1:04:41
  My turn now, right?
• 1:04:41
  Yeah, that's you.
• 1:04:42
  Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:04:44
  Well, I love boxing.
• 1:04:46
  I'm excited to see what's gonna happen.
• 1:04:48
  These next couple months.
• 1:04:49
  For the next month, it's gonna be a little slow,
• 1:04:51
  but still a solid month.
• 1:04:53
  We just gotta wait till then this comes up.
• 1:04:55
  Okay?
• 1:04:56
  But you know what?
• 1:04:57
  Again, I'll say it again.
• 1:04:58
  I love boxing.
• 1:04:59
  I love you all who watch this podcast.
• 1:05:01
  Thank you for tuning in.
• 1:05:02
  All right.
• 1:05:03
  With that, I'm gonna get out of here.
• 1:05:06
  Oh, you know what we're talking about next time.
• 1:05:08
  You already know.
• 1:05:10
  All right, see you on the other side
• 1:05:12
  of this interesting weekend.