Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / American Patriot - TPR's In Focus - Feb 19, 2026
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- 0:23>> Carolyn Hutcheson: From Troy Public Radio, this is in focus, and I'm
- 0:28Carolyn Hutcheson. In our Genealogy in your Genes
- 0:32series, True Lewis, a military veteran living in
- 0:35Kentucky, shares how she traced her family lineage
- 0:40to the American Revolution. And she'll be in
- 0:43Auburn next week. True Lewis, welcome to Troy
- 0:51Public Radio.
- 0:52>> True Lewis: Carolyn, it's so good to be here.
- 0:55>> Carolyn Hutcheson: Next week is your week at Auburn University. You
- 0:59will be in residence. Doing what?
- 1:02>> True Lewis: I will be giving presentations on my family
- 1:06history and how I got started from my true roots
- 1:09all the way to the American Revolution. I'll be
- 1:12attending some classes and getting a full tour,
- 1:16which I'm excited about, and going up to Ada. And
- 1:19later on after that, I'll be attending the Alabama
- 1:22State Society Daughters of the American Revolution
- 1:26State Conference.
- 1:27>> Carolyn Hutcheson: After you retired from the US Army, M, you went on
- 1:30a genealogy search. What did you find out about
- 1:35your ancestor?
- 1:36>> True Lewis: Well, this all started when I was really little,
- 1:39like in 1977 when, um, Roots came on and my
- 1:43parents, who were my paternal grandparents, they
- 1:46legally adopted me. My grandparents are the
- 1:50grandchildren of the enslaved there in Alabama. So
- 1:55I would hear all these stories. When my
- 1:57grandmother from Midway, when she passed away in
- 1:591977, all these things were like little notations
- 2:04on my soul. I called them. That would all come
- 2:06back to me in 1998 after I got out of the
- 2:10military. My parents were older then, and they
- 2:14were ready to sing like birds about their lineage,
- 2:17their history. And one day I asked daddy, I said,
- 2:21we know all about Mommy's family in Midway, but
- 2:24what about yours? Why do we have this Lewis last
- 2:27name? What was your mother's name? So he said, oh,
- 2:31my mom's name was Eddie Lee Rosanna Louisiana,
- 2:35Savannah Lewis. But she was an ivory. And I knew
- 2:40her dad, and he was a slave, and I knowed him, and
- 2:44I was flabbergasted. And then he goes, he had 23
- 2:48children. And, uh, at that moment, you realize
- 2:52then that your parents in their 80s, they were
- 2:55children at one point. They had a whole life
- 2:57before you.
- 2:59>> Carolyn Hutcheson: How did you get to know more about that side of
- 3:01the family?
- 3:03>> True Lewis: I was so interested because I knew my mom's
- 3:06history from Midway, but we didn't know about our
- 3:09dad's line. So that's how I got to know Granddaddy
- 3:12ike and his 23 children and three wives. And then
- 3:16I started attending these family reunions in about
- 3:192003 when we finally met them, DNA came out in
- 3:242012. For me personally, the first question they
- 3:28ask you on, um, family tree DNA, they say, well,
- 3:31who's your earliest ancestor? But this is my birth
- 3:35mother's line, my German mother. And I knew
- 3:39nothing of her history. I knew everything I
- 3:42thought about my African American paternal line,
- 3:45but I didn't know anything about my maternal birth
- 3:48mothers family. My mother's, uh, parents were
- 3:52older when they had her. They passed away when I
- 3:55was like three. My grandparents adopted me from
- 4:00her because of the time that I was born in 1968.
- 4:03So you have this loving versus all these turmoil
- 4:07things going on. And I was born the day before Dr.
- 4:10King passed away, so my mother couldn't keep me,
- 4:13this little precious black baby. So it was safer
- 4:16for me to stay with my paternal line. So back to
- 4:21my DNA test. Even though my grandparents kept my
- 4:25mother in my life, it was a, uh, closed adoption.
- 4:28But they were so loving and from Alabama, and they
- 4:32were people that are born in 1918 and 1923. But
- 4:36they had the, uh, love and the wherewithal to know
- 4:39to keep her in my life, even though my adoption is
- 4:43sealed in the state of Pennsylvania. So that's how
- 4:47I got to know my mom over the years. But I didn't
- 4:49ever ask her any of those personal questions
- 4:52because there's no blueprint on how to act when
- 4:55you're adopted. But you have these birth parents
- 4:58that are in your life. So it was always I was just
- 5:02trying to walk the line and learn the line on my
- 5:05own.
- 5:05>> Carolyn Hutcheson: You made a discovery that placed one of your
- 5:09ancestors in the American Revolution. Were you
- 5:13shocked?
- 5:14>> True Lewis: I really was. This was all because I took a DNA
- 5:17test and I needed to know who my earliest ancestor
- 5:20was.
- 5:21>> Carolyn Hutcheson: Well, what did you find out about him?
- 5:23>> True Lewis: Is this, like, really my patriot? And he was, I'm,
- 5:28um, just still shocked. And even with going
- 5:31through, filling out the application and learning
- 5:33about these women before me, because I trace
- 5:37myself through four women just to get to him. And
- 5:40that already is a challenge because of their
- 5:42maiden names. You're talking about 1905 all the
- 5:46way to when he's born in 1744. He was a Weaver. He
- 5:52had all these children. He owned all this land.
- 5:56Out of all the children, the daughter that he had
- 5:59that I fell up under, she's the only one that was
- 6:03born outside of Pennsylvania, in Queensland,
- 6:06Maryland. But I love the fact that he was a Weaver
- 6:09and that he had this pension file. He also had it
- 6:13was like a 1783 glass tax. So I can't remember all
- 6:18the stipulations, but I think you had to have
- 6:21property and you had some type of glass, but most
- 6:25of the properties had like $100 worth. And he's
- 6:28the only one on that page that had like $50 worth
- 6:32of glass on his property. So that was another fine
- 6:35that proved where he was at the time he was paying
- 6:39taxes. And it was also some other census that they
- 6:43had said he was a veteran with the 6 militia in
- 6:47Pennsylvania. So he had all these footprints for
- 6:50someone like me as his fifth great grandchild to
- 6:52find. So. And who knew that when I joined in 2016
- 6:57that all those a hundred and something years later
- 7:01his grandbaby was going to find him. And I just
- 7:05place him in high esteem because there's other
- 7:08women that I enjoy in dar, especially the black
- 7:12daughters. And he sits amongst them and their
- 7:16patriots that African American patriots or
- 7:19indigenous Indians. And I just feel like he's back
- 7:23there with their patriots. Too true.
- 7:25>> Carolyn Hutcheson: Louis, you have unearthed a family history that
- 7:29reflects American history. You also are a podcast
- 7:35host for the dar.
- 7:37>> True Lewis: It is called the DAR Today Podcast, where we
- 7:42illuminate our legacy one episode at a time. I
- 7:46have been selected to be President General Mrs.
- 7:50Storage's National Chair for her administration.
- 7:54And she decided that she wanted to keep the
- 7:57podcast going and they needed a new host. And here
- 8:00I sit once a month.
- 8:02>> Carolyn Hutcheson: So what's ahead for Auburn next week?
- 8:05>> True Lewis: So I will be speaking at Pebble Hill one night.
- 8:08I'm also going to be speaking to an NAACP chapter
- 8:12there. I have two classes that I'll be going to
- 8:16about history and community research. And they'll
- 8:20be going over my website, um, mytruots.com and
- 8:24they'll be picking a few stories for their lessons
- 8:26and we'll go over that and how that all connects
- 8:30with their education at the time. So I'm just
- 8:34excited.
- 8:35>> Carolyn Hutcheson: What's it like for you to be returning to Alabama?
- 8:39>> True Lewis: I'm just honored to be coming back to Alabama.
- 8:42Just knowing that over the centuries, we're not
- 8:45out of the narrative for America 250. It is a good
- 8:49time during Black History Month to talk about all
- 8:53of this. And black stories are scholarship. And
- 8:56that arc alone to me is an American 250 story. All
- 9:00the stories of enslavement, freedom, service. All
- 9:04my history is a direct connection to America250.
- 9:09And that's just a reminder that it's not separate
- 9:12from American history. It's the foundation of it.
- 9:15I was born and raised in Pennsylvania, but Alabama
- 9:18is in my soul.
- 9:19>> Carolyn Hutcheson: So True Lewis. Welcome home.
- 9:22>> True Lewis: Thank you, Carolyn. It's just been an absolute
- 9:25wonderful time, and I appreciate all the effort.
- 9:27And thank you, Alabama. See you soon.
- 9:31>> Carolyn Hutcheson: Uh, joining us from Fort Knox, Kentucky, for our
- 9:34Genealogy in youn Genes series was True Lewis,
- 9:38family historian who is headed to Auburn
- 9:41University next week. Thanks for joining us for In
- 9:45Focus, which is a podcast. Wherever you get your
- 9:48podcast. I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is
- 9:52listener supported Troy Public Radio.