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[BxBD] Punches are not vitamins · Boxing B-Sides

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Before Dark. Dark. This is Boxing Before Dark.
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You're really sad. Yeah, I saw that. I was like,
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man. That was my first Batman, was Val Kilmer.
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Yeah, Val Kilmer was one of my Hollywood crushes
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as a kid. I can see why. He's a very handsome
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dude. It's going to sound like a weird role to
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choose. But him as Doc Holliday in Tombstone.
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I absolutely see why that would be. I said this
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to somebody and they're like, you mean the sick
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dying version of Val Kilmer. Yeah, but he was
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dying in a hot way. Oh. So was that like Florence
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Nightingale kind of thing? No, I don't think
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so. I think Val Kilmer is a good -looking man,
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and I like Tombstone the movie. It's a great,
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great movie. I've been trying to find it to re
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-watch it, but it's not on any of the streamers.
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I can oblige. Nice. Oh, man. I remember... Was
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he top secret? Do you know Top Secret? No, I
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don't know about Top Secret. One second. I can't
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remember if that's him or Johnny Depp. I can't
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tell from the... Yeah. Okay, Top Secret is like
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airplane style comedy, but James Bond -ish. Anyways,
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you should go find it. Kind of, but different.
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Yeah, airplane style versus the really... overtly
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campy type of shit that Austin Powers did. What's
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the little blurb they give? My Google's back
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to being in Japanese and I don't know why. Okay,
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top secret. An American rock and roll singer
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is invited to a cultural festival in East Germany
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in order to distract from a plot to destroy NATO
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submarines, but he accidentally becomes involved
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in a resistance plot to rescue an imprisoned
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scientist. okay all right val kilmer is the rock
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and roll star but like at one point he's crawling
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through a field and he like crawls up to a pair
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of boots and they're just boots in a field and
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then he does it again but the boots move but
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it's a cow wearing rubber boots what the hell
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okay yeah this is you have to go find it this
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sounds like um Get Him to the Greek meets Austin
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Powers. I haven't seen it for decades, but I
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think that is probably pretty fair. I just remember
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it feeling like Airplane. Like that stupid kind
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of, yeah. That's what Austin Powers is. That's
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really silly. Kung Pao, Enter the Fist. Yeah.
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That type of silliness. It's Val Kilmer being
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a comedy star and not like an action star. Or
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drama type. Yeah. Yeah. Because like Batman Forever
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felt a lot more like a drama than it did like
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a Batman action movie. The same way some of the
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others did. Yeah. Man. He's been really sick
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for a while though. I guess it's not. Yeah. It
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was like pneumonia for like the third time or
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something. yeah well he had throat cancer or
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whatever like a long time ago didn't he that's
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why he quit acting he could hardly talk anymore
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i didn't know that that's that was years ago
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that makes it makes sense that that way like
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he was in what was that movie like uh gruber
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or something like mcgruber yeah some shit it
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was like a cheesy action movie And he was the
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big bad in that one. He had a big scar from surgery.
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That's why he always wore scarves at the end.
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Oh, I see. In that one, he let it be visible.
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And it was part of his big bad persona. Nice.
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Yeah, I remember that. I remember because MacGruber...
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The movie was MacGruber. Man, who was the 80s
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star, like would fix anything with like a paper
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clip and a rubber band? MacGyver. MacGyver. So
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it was like MacGruber was like a play on MacGyver.
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And we had a guy in my unit at the time. His
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name was Gruber. So he just became MacGruber.
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And he had no say in it as much as he disliked
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it. The more he complained, the more it became
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cemented. Of course. Yep. Sorry, group. Man,
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is this a good time for like a little formal
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intro? Where's your soju and soju drop shots?
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Drop shot drinks. I could go grab my soju, but
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it's peach flavored. I have purple punch big
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sips. Nice. pre -game cocktail pound one before
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you go into wherever you're going and save yourself
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a little yep little drink ball bombs isn't there
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one that's like balls okay yep yeah i thought
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there was one that was also something bombs and
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they look like little cartoony bombs maybe i
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am gonna get my soju yeah do it it's saturday
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i'll be right back yep Oh, boy. Oh, it's a party
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now. I had a Korean guy making fun of me because
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I buy the flavored one, man. OK, well, it probably
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helped when I lived in Korea that I would always
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like I'd go shopping with my girlfriend. And
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so like if I bought anything, quote unquote,
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girly, nobody would ever say anything. Yeah.
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Well, also, I'm a girl, so. Yeah, no shit. Like,
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what the fuck? Like, I could buy girly shit because
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I had a girl with me. You're a girl buying girly
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shit. What's the fucking deal? Yeah, who cares?
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But also, they are still, what are they, 10 %
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alcohol? They're like regular wines. Yeah, they're
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like 10 % to 15 % depending on which one you
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get. I can't actually find it on here because
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it's all in Japanese. I think this one's 13%.
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Anyways, doesn't matter. Not the point. I just
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buy them like wine coolers. With the flavored
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ones, yeah. You could get like a really strong
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wine cooler. So I was just, you know, I grabbed
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a bag of chips and I think two of the sojus.
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I was like, fuck it. I'm going to get tipsy tonight.
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And this guy's like, oh, drinking the girly drinks.
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And I was like, yup. As opposed to what? Any
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drink that I get, if I'm a girl, any drink I
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get is a girly drink. It doesn't matter. I could
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get the dumpster water flavored something or
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other, and it would still be girly. Oh, fuck.
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Speaking of girls' drinks, they have... uh jim
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beam peach flavored whiskey yeah you mentioned
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that yeah i still can't find my crown royal i'm
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pissed you know crown royal with the flavored
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stuff they make uh canned cocktails and there's
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they have a peach one an apple one and then like
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a regular uh crown and coke nice yeah they make
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just like peach flavored crown royal yeah i'm
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familiar I think it's still 40%. Like, I don't
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think they water it down very much. No, they
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don't. And it's fucking dangerous. I know. I
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know. I've had some wild nights with Crown Royal.
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Me and one of my friends bought, like, the regular
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-sized bottle, a 2 -6 or whatever, and we accidentally
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drank the whole thing. And I was like, how does
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this fucking happen as an accident? I was so
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wrecked. Didn't make it home, slept on his floor
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with his dog, woke up the next day, hung over
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his fuck, and I'm like, but it tastes like peaches.
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It tastes like peach juice. That's what it tastes
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like. For the uninitiated, like crown, peach
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crown is like the syrup that's inside of like
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canned peaches. Just a little, not as thick,
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but it is that sweet. It's so good. And it's
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really dangerous. It's built for making cocktails,
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but I'm a lazy piece of shit, so I just drink
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it on ice. Well, all right. Let me give us a
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little formal introduction here. Boxing before
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dark. Boxing before dark. I decided to put in
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a little X on the... I don't know if you noticed,
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but rather than being BBD, because, you know,
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you know, it's BXBD now, but still fun. Boxing
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before dark. It's all the boxing and a lot more
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fun. Like crown peach fun. I get so off topic.
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We had to just get me away from the main show.
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No, it's not just you. Something I noticed that
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happened with Drip a lot is we would have a lot
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of stuff in the weeds, and he'd be like, what
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the fuck are you guys talking about? I'm like,
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hey, this is important. But then I realized it's
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not important. At all. Nobody gives a shit. So
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that's Boxing Before Dark. We're here to talk
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about the shit that may not make a regular podcast.
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But still, if you want to get... further into
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the weeds than boxing b -sides we're here to
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get you nice and uh crawling through the fields
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up to some rubber boots top secret style top
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secret uh all right um so first things first
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farmer tevin farmer reveals that he has tourette
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syndrome I want you to gloat. Go ahead. You called
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it. I fucking called this. You called it. I called
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this. Everybody was telling me it was all in
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my head, that there was nothing going on. You're
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seeing things. No, you're overthinking it. It's
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not that big a deal. Not some sort of neural
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damage, but definitely a clear tick that I did
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not make up. I fucking called it. I noticed the
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tick. I just wasn't sure if it was as bad as
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you were thinking it was. It's pretty bad. It
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is very noticeable. For people who are saying
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you were making it up, it's like, man, are you
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watching Tevin Farmer? Are we watching the same
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person right now? Because there's clearly something
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going on. I am glad that it's something not damage
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-related. Yeah, it's more innocuous than... something
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else but i do think it did get worse after his
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um jojo diaz after jojo diaz fight yeah and that's
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when he took that long time off so i wonder if
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they weren't trying to get him dialed in on i
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don't know is there even medicine for torrents
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not the type that's gonna get you to stop ticking
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you it'll it'll uh dampen it but not not to the
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point that it disappears Right. I wonder if he
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needed some time to dial in something that let
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him keep boxing. How to channel your tick. Yeah.
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Rather than letting it be a tell. And the fucking
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announcers keep saying he's looking up at the
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score clock or the time clock or whatever. And
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I'm like, no, he's not, guys. That is not what
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this is. Man. Anyways, I have queued up. the
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voice thing insert here vindication all right
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vindication i love brooklyn 99 oh i've been meaning
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to watch that you've never seen it it's really
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good highly recommend it i'm still uh trying
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to work my way through modern family which is
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100 up my alley and i know brooklyn 99 is too
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i've seen Some of Modern Family, but I've never
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sat down and watched it. Oh, while we're in the
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weeds again, the second season of Windbreaker
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has started. The teen school gang fighting anime
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I like. Oh, yeah. Fucking first episode of season
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two just starts with an all out gang war. And
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you're like, what the hell happened? How did
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we get here? How did we go from the end of season
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one to this? I mean, it kind of makes sense,
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but also just like no buildup at all. It's just,
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all right, guess we're busting in and kicking
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the shit out of these guys. Rather than like
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an upward checkmark, we're checkmarking down
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and we're going to dip from here and then build
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back up to something else. I think it's just
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we're going to start at the top and fucking buckle
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in, boys. Because, yeah, we're going. we're going
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top speed yeah uh fire force is also getting
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season three but it's been so long since season
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two i gotta re -watch it season one i've seen
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like six times these sound directing i don't
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know what you call that it's amazing in fire
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force they use like negative sound somehow i
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don't know how to describe it yeah super cool
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that's yeah that sounds actually pretty interesting
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The sound mixing is the best in anime, and the
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visuals are cool. The world's cool. I just really
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like Fire Force. Well, speaking of sound, should
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they let boxers avoid the post -fight interview
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in the ring immediately after the fight? I think
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yes. I think so too. If they don't want to take
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it, they shouldn't have to. I like... Because
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that was Claudia Trejo, right? Yes. I put this
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on to discuss because Farmer said he didn't want
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to do the interview. He said twice and was trying
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to walk away, and they told him he had to. And
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then people got mad about what he had to say.
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He warned you twice. Yeah, and he didn't even
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say anything that bad. No, nothing that was all
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that questionable. He said what you would expect
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from a guy who just lost a super close fight
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for the second time. He said all the things that
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you would expect. I don't know what I have to
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do to get the judges on my side. Of course, I'm
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going to lose in his hometown. All the hallmarks
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of what you'd expect. I don't see why people
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would be upset about what he said. Well, and
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he even opened it up with the generic, like,
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I am not mad at Zepeda. Zepeda's a good fighter.
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He did what he's supposed to do. But, like, just
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let the guy go be angry and interview him at
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the end. Didn't they let one of the Malonis just
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walk out of the ring and go cry and pout? tantrum
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tantrum yeah tantrum in the fucking dressing
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room come on man i don't know why they stopped
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farmer he was trying to walk away and they stopped
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him and then he's like i don't want to do this
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and they're like and then they're like oh but
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you know you can't be mad at boxing Uh, no, I
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can be bad at correction. I am mad at boxing.
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I am not mad at like Williams of Peta. It's not
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the same shit that we say. Like I say anyway,
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with robberies is like, um, just, just an example.
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Um, in over on the MMA side, there's this guy
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named, uh, Bautista who ended up winning a very.
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obviously shitty decision and so like i later
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on we're talking about like who's he gonna fight
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next what are his next options and then we're
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i i'm always thinking of what how can i get his
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ass beat the most Because he needs to fucking
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pay for the shitty decision that had nothing
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to do with him. Not at all his fault. He did
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not make the judges do anything. But he was the
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beneficiary. So, he has to suffer for it. Which
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is also shitty. It is. 90 % of the time, the
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sponsors have done absolutely nothing. It's not
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Zepeda's fault. It's not over on the MMA guy,
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Bautista. It's not his fault. He didn't make
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the judges do anything. But. But he's the one
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that has to pay for it because he's the one that
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benefited from it. And he's the one that's going
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to be in the ring. Right. Yeah. It's unfortunate.
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Maybe we should put the judges that gave him
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that shitty decision into the ring or the cage
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or whatever. Like, okay, you want to score it?
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You want to score it 8 -4 for Zepeda? How about
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Tevin Farmer? He's about to give you an 8 -4.
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How about that? Yeah, he gets 8 -4 minutes, depending
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how long you live. Yeah, 8 -4 minutes, and that's
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what he's going to get on you. And then we'll
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see how you score the next one. If you score
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the next one. I don't know. I don't know how
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you fix it. You can't, but... I do feel bad for
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Farmer. I do too. Anybody who was talking shit
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about him, oh, well, everybody who loses calls
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a robbery or whatever they were saying online.
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I'm just like, man, give the man his hour to
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get his shit together for the post -fight interview.
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And he was so gracious in his little defeat interview.
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Yeah. He was super gracious, very... uh congratulatory
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to zapata like like okay if the judges gave it
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to you the judges gave it to you congratulations
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you're like hell of a fighter fucking trademark
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tip my hat off to him that type of stuff but
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and and then he went off on boxing as an institution
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and that that's the type of shit like That's
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the stuff that a lot of people don't, like, I
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don't know. Do they not want to hear it? Are
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they not ready to hear it? What do you think?
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It's just politics, isn't it? Right. Yeah, you're
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right. It's politics. And anybody who agrees
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with him is going to agree with him. And anybody
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who doesn't agree with him is just going to be,
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oh, he's just a sore loser. Honestly, this fight,
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I don't think Farmer deserved a win. Yeah, yeah.
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The first fight, I scored for him. But this fight,
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he got hurt. or whatever, and he just had to
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take some rounds off in the beginning slash middle.
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And him being hurt and plus taking the rounds
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off in the immediate aftermath, that was the
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deciding factor the same way the knockdown was
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in the first one, right? Yeah, well, and I do
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think he got another knockdown that they call
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the slam. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can see why
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he's... I can see why he's really upset. Yeah.
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Well, and... Farmer really has not gotten any
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of his just dues for these two Zepeda fights.
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Everybody's like, man, Zepeda fucking sucks.
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Like, he's been exposed. He's terrible because
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Farmer dropped him. And I'm like, Farmer's good,
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guys. Right! I don't understand the farmer hate.
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Do you not fucking remember how many years ago
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was it now that people were talking about Tevin
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Farmer is the one to beat Tank? That's what people
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were talking about. Honestly, I think he could
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still hurt Tank. Farmer's chin is not going to
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hold up. He will lose, but he could make Tank
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look bad. If Roach can do what he did. Farmer's
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more guts. Yeah. Farmer could have similar levels
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of success. I don't think he beats him the same
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way that Roach did, which Roach did beat Gervonta
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Davis. Make no mistake about that. If Roach can
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do that, win a close decision, I don't see, I
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think Tank or Farmer could have Tank. giving
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him a lot of fits, giving him a lot of trouble.
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I think Farmer would lay hands on Tank. We would
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see if Tank actually has a chin. Not that Farmer
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hits that hard. That's one thing he is lacking.
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He is not a power puncher, but we would see if
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Tank can take a punch or if he's just going to
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take another knee that somehow doesn't get fucking
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counted. He's not a knockdown. It's not a knockdown.
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It's not a submission. I don't even know what
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you call them. It's just the fight continues
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as is. Fucking bullshit. For anybody who might
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be thinking, because Farmer, his last three decisions
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have been on the... He's gotten the short end
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of the stick. The last three times. Moritaya,
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super close. Arguable that he won. I don't think
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he did. Zepeda won. He won. Super close. Arguable
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that he won. I think he won. And then Zepeda
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2, super close. I think Zepeda won. In my first
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watch, I thought Farmer did enough, but... Looking
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back on it, like, eh, maybe not. Still. Yeah,
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I have no problem with Cepeda winning that second
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fight. Right. Still super close. This was the
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guy when Matchroom USA first started, which it
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doesn't exist anymore. But Matchroom USA, Tevin
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Farmer was the guy that they were talking about.
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This is the antidote to Tank. Yeah. And I don't
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think they're wrong. So don't, if you're thinking
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like, ah, Tevin Farmer's garbage, whatever, he's
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washed, whatever the fuck. I don't think so.
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Yeah, I don't think he's done. Not at all. Not
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at all. And his, whatever neurological issues
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that we were worried he might have had, not that
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big of a deal. Apparently. Yeah. It's not the
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worst. There are, like, Luis Lopez Venado recently
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had a fight, and that was... Yeah, I couldn't
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even find that to watch. It was on YouTube Live,
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but it finished super quick. It's like the guy
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didn't even give any opposition. He was there
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to get paid, and that was about it. Right. But
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that guy, Luis Lopez, that would be someone I'm
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like, ugh. Let's maybe rethink our career choices
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here. That's a good segue to if we skip one.
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All right. So I was watching interviews for Hergovich
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and Joyce. And Hergovich had the funniest line.
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Maybe it's his accent. Maybe it's the delivery.
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But they're like, what? do you have for Joe Joyce?
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And he's like, punches are not vitamins. Do not
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stay in boxing too long. And I was like, yes.
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This is my new catchphrase. Punches are not vitamins.
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It's a good one. Joe Joyce has, like, the juggernaut
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moniker comes from his just taking punches that's
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yeah and he walks through him his non -defense
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like joy joyce is there to be hit he gets hit
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a lot right and i i really like joe joyce i really
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hope he does something here but then i don't
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know what that leads to either so hope uh yeah
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this is their both of their their bids to stay
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at the world level. Um, yeah, I don't know. I
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feel like Herkovich would do well at the Europe,
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like the European, the continental kind of level.
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And Joe Joyce, probably the same. Like I, it's
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like they're fighting for a position that neither
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of them really deserve, or I don't know about
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maybe deserves not the right word, but that neither
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of them really rate. They don't, they don't have.
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the appropriate merit if that's the better way
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to put it but I mean like if fucking Derek Chisora
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is getting another belt getting another chance
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at a belt maybe Joe Joyce can too it's one of
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the with the current crop like the age of the
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current crop Derek Chisora is one of the few
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that I could call unk yeah Like, dude, it's about
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time. Like, what the fuck are you thinking about?
28:34
I know you think you can with this next one.
28:37
Does he, though? I don't think he does. I think
28:40
Derek Chisora is cashing out. He had his fucking
28:44
retirement speech all written out and planned.
28:47
He did it with Otto Wally? Yeah, and then he
28:48
won the fight. Yeah. I think it was expecting
28:52
to win, to be honest with you. But not get a
28:56
fucking mandatory shot at the IBF world title.
29:00
Well, UK is one of the ones that, like, they
29:04
play heavily into the IBF because rankings matter
29:09
over there. And as long as you're not one or
29:12
two, you can grease your way into any slot that
29:18
you want, really. And I think that's what's happening
29:21
with Joe Joyce. Or not Joe Joyce, with Derek
29:25
Chisora and Daniel Dubois. Is Chisora not ranked
29:32
number one? I think he's ranked number one by
29:36
the IBF. If he is, I'm going to have to retract
29:40
everything that I just said. Let me... What do
29:47
we got here? IBF. rankings i guess is what i
29:51
need to type in i am so tired hold on i am i'm
29:56
a little bit um i have them saved just because
30:01
it's a good idea but okay so number one is not
30:07
rated but derek chizora is the top rated heavyweight
30:11
by the idf he is number one or number two these
30:16
are the ones that get enforced Why are they listing
30:21
him as Zimbabwe? Must be where his heritage?
30:29
I thought Chisora was born in the UK. I thought
30:35
he was British, but Dillian White is Jamaican.
30:40
That's how they label him, is Jamaican. Oh, no,
30:46
Chizora was born in Zimbabwe, according to BoxRec.
30:49
Sounds British enough for me. Like, anytime I
30:52
hear him speak, he sounds British as shit. Yeah,
30:57
I just didn't realize. I don't either. I guess
31:00
that's... I guess we gotta cheer for Chizora
31:05
now. Man, I can't even... I could barely tell
31:06
the difference... I always cheer for Chizora.
31:07
I could barely tell the difference between, like,
31:09
a fucking Manchester or Liverpool... or blackpool
31:16
or whatever different parts of the uk i can barely
31:19
tell the difference between them so if there's
31:21
a zimbabwe born british person i'm not sorry
31:28
that i didn't recognize if he had a different
31:30
accent because he sounds british to me apparently
31:34
he was in zimbabwe all through school well Chisora
31:40
and his family moved to the UK in 1999 when he
31:44
was 16. 16? Yeah. Well, you all sound the same
31:54
to me, British people. His family must have had
31:55
relative money. They sent him to an all -boys
31:59
boarding school. Yeah, that sounds like they
32:02
would have money. I'm going to chalk that up
32:07
to... To save face for myself, I'm going to chalk
32:13
that up to I don't hear differences in accents.
32:17
I just hear British United Kingdom citizens speaking.
32:24
Yeah, he's not American. That's all I can know.
32:29
Yeah, well, I'm learning the different accents
32:34
of like the Canadian accents. I'm getting better.
32:39
Yeah. I can pick out parts of Canada pretty good.
32:43
Of course. I can pick out parts of the U .S.
32:45
easily, but it's... I'm going to just bolster
32:52
myself, gas myself up a little bit. I don't look
32:55
at you guys. I don't hear your accents and think,
32:59
that's this person or that region or that region.
33:03
I just hear my British friends, my United Kingdom
33:07
friends. speaking. That's all I hear. I still
33:12
have trouble with the difference between England
33:14
and Britain. Still haven't quite nailed that
33:17
down. I'm never sure which one to use. I think
33:22
those are the same. They're not. There is a difference,
33:25
but I can't remember what it is. Britain includes
33:28
Wales or something? It's the British Isles. So,
33:33
like, yeah. Britain includes Wales because it's
33:37
on the same island. I think. Okay, but England
33:42
does not. England is a part of it. England is
33:45
the smallest. It's a part of the isle. But not
33:52
the full island. And then the UK includes Scotland?
33:56
Yes, and Northern Ireland. Yeah. I just remember
34:04
this because I saw a video recently. It's this
34:07
guy who does like flag and nation trivia. And
34:14
it's like, oh, what are the four nations of the
34:16
United Kingdom? It is. I just in my mind, I said
34:21
Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales. And then
34:27
the response. His response was wrong. It's Northern
34:33
Ireland. I mean, it is. It is, yes. But also,
34:39
suck my balls. Like, are you... My favorite history
34:44
flag trivia. Do you know why Northern Ireland
34:49
has the red hand on their flag? No. Okay, so
34:55
I can't remember his name. But there were two
34:58
kings. or noblemen of some sort that were racing
35:04
and the first person to touch the land got to
35:09
claim it and he cut off his fucking hand and
35:13
threw it so he touched it first so it's the red
35:16
hand of ulster because he cut off his hand and
35:19
just hopped it and he's like fucking touched
35:22
it it's mine bitches hilarious And we had the
35:30
troubles because of that. Yeah. But yeah, that's
35:35
why it's got a red band. Jesus. The only flag
35:42
trivia I really know. I don't know any flag trivia.
35:46
I just recognize what they're attached to. But
35:50
let's just fucking carry on. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.
35:56
No, no, no worries. Wilder versus Ngannou. Yeah.
36:04
It's in the works. Is it really? Yeah. If Wilder
36:09
gets past his next fight, which, given who it
36:13
is, chances are likely that he will. And then
36:19
Wilder versus Ngannou. Huh. I don't know, man.
36:24
Wilder looks... so shit last time out. Ngannou
36:27
might tag him. It's worrisome. I don't feel as
36:33
confident as I normally would about Wilder's
36:38
chances as I usually would. Ngannou made Fury
36:42
look hittable, and Wilder has way less defense.
36:48
And he doesn't have the killer instinct anymore,
36:51
apparently. opened his third eye and connected
36:56
with the gods or whatever so he i don't know
36:59
man the bronze bomber is gone now we got the
37:04
we have deontay wilder that's what we have now
37:08
it it's just that's what we have left is some
37:13
guy from mobile alabama the the professional
37:16
fighter not The bronze bomber who was like the
37:21
professional fucking in -ring killer. Yeah. No.
37:25
That's what we have left. You can't yell bomb
37:28
squad anymore. It's just, it's done. I don't
37:32
think so. As much as I want to. Because. That's
37:37
funny shit. He was our, our heavyweight hope
37:41
here over in the U .S. That, man, I. Oh, God.
37:45
The great American hope. He was the great American
37:48
hope. I cannot express in words how much I believed
37:54
in him and how he was going to be the one. He
37:58
is the one. He is the one. He is going to take
38:02
American heavyweight boxing back into its glory
38:06
days. I believed it. I cannot. And for a while,
38:13
he did. To be honest, he did. And he did, but
38:18
it's like, man. I talked my boyfriend at the
38:22
time into going out to a bar with me to watch
38:24
Wilder Fury 2. And I was like, there's no fucking
38:28
way Wilder wins this one. I was like, Fury's
38:30
going to win, whatever. But we got to the bar
38:35
and it was so quiet in there. There was like
38:38
no atmosphere at all. People were there to watch.
38:41
Like you paid a cover to come in and watch the
38:43
pay -per -view. It's the only reason anyone was
38:46
there, and it was fucking dead silent before
38:49
the fight started. And me and my ex, we fed off
38:55
each other really in sometimes a fun way, sometimes
38:57
not so fun. And I walked in, and I was like,
39:00
no, we just got to yell bomb squad, and everybody
39:02
is going to, like, hate us. He's like, but you
39:05
said he's going to lose. I'm like, fuck it. And
39:07
we walked in. And so you paid your cover, you
39:12
walked down a small hallway, and you went in
39:14
to where they had the fight playing. And there
39:17
was just like regular bar bullshit on the other
39:19
side. And as we walked through that second door,
39:21
we both just yelled bomb squad. And people turned
39:25
and started yelling at us, telling us why we
39:28
were wrong. And I was like, yes. Oh, man. I knew
39:32
we were wrong, but you just got to stir the pot
39:35
sometimes. I took it so far that I placed like
39:40
$40 worth of bets with people and lost all my
39:42
money. But fuck it. Strictly for vibes. As long
39:47
as I throw a smoke bomb into the hornet's nest,
39:51
it'll be fun. Worth it. It's $40. I got guys
39:58
yelling at us enough that they just bought us
40:00
pitchers of beer. I'm pretty sure beer to...
40:03
That's lost ratio. I came out even. Yeah, if
40:06
people are buying you drinks for the sake of
40:09
you, just because you are wrong, right? Very
40:15
Canadian thing to do. I would take it. I would
40:19
take the same thing. If I'm walking into a bar
40:25
and I'm yelling bomb squad and everybody's looking
40:28
at me like, you're a moron. Like, okay, well,
40:32
let's just see who's favorable or friendly anyway.
40:40
And we'll just be chatting and buying drinks
40:45
for each other. Yeah, I was betting five bucks
40:49
against people, however many times that is, like
40:53
eight times. And they all just bought drinks.
40:55
Yeah, of course. Fuck yeah. Of course. I would
40:59
be. antagonizing people into buying me drinks
41:03
all the time as well. What's that? Bomb squad.
41:08
Oh, what's that? Your mother bomb squad is what
41:12
I mean. I don't know how much that's going to
41:17
antagonize anybody, but that's what we're doing.
41:20
Cause I think it only works if you, if it might
41:24
be because I'm a girl, I hate to play that card,
41:26
but it might be because I'm a girl. It might.
41:29
Like, oh, isn't she cute? She watches boxing.
41:33
Oh, she thinks she knows boxing. She thinks she
41:37
knows boxing. Oh, you know him because he's a
41:41
knockout guy. That's the only reason that you
41:44
care about him. 100%. And they're like, oh, well,
41:48
who are your five favorite boxers? And you know
41:51
me. They were all fucking tiny little men. And
41:53
the guys are sitting there on their phones like.
41:56
Oh, yeah, this guy, he fights at 120. Who the
41:59
fuck has heard of this man? Fenito Lopez, Salvador
42:03
Sanchez. Do you know who Roman Gonzalez is? Have
42:08
you heard of that name? Like, it's that type
42:10
of, like... Yeah, yeah. Well, it was... When
42:14
was that? That would have been 2019, I think.
42:20
2020 before COVID hit, maybe. Anyways, I listed,
42:26
in a way, as one of my favorites. And somebody
42:28
legit said, nobody watches the fucking victim
42:31
weights. What are you doing? Oh, man. So then
42:38
I listed all my favorite fighters under 127 pounds.
42:43
All the victim weights. Yeah. Which, for the
42:51
person listening, victim weights came up. When
42:55
was that? Was that on the previous B -Sides?
43:00
That might have been B -Sides. I think it was
43:02
B -Sides. That was the previous time that came
43:05
up. Nobody watches the victim weights. Like,
43:09
I'm going to make you a victim weight. Yeah.
43:13
I don't know if you realize how, like, big I
43:15
actually am. Anyways. I love shutting up dickheads
43:23
in bars. It's great. I kind of miss yelling at
43:28
people living in Japan. I miss yelling at strangers.
43:32
I bet you can only do that in the expat bars.
43:36
Nah, you can't even do it there. Really? Well,
43:39
the bartenders don't really understand the difference
43:42
between friendly arguments and arguments. Oh,
43:45
I see. At least in Chiba City. Maybe in Tokyo
43:48
I could get away with it. But where I live, it's
43:52
a little smaller. And if you speak English loud
43:55
and it's not like really friendly, obviously
43:58
really friendly, you get told to leave. Oh, that's
44:02
lame. Yeah. I get told to leave sometimes just
44:07
because I speak English. Japan still does that
44:11
if you're outside the areas. Yeah, yeah. I don't
44:20
know. Speaking of Japan, we skipped the announcement.
44:23
We did. Inoue versus Nakatani in 2026. Yeah,
44:29
they said it at the Boxing Awards night here
44:33
in Japan. This is making my balls tickle. Tokyo
44:38
Dome. I might legitimately extend my contract
44:43
just so I'm still in the country. I need it to
44:48
be first half of 2026. I am very much interested
44:52
in traveling for this. It would be worth it,
44:57
I think. Yes. Just this headline is enough. But
45:04
it's going to be a stacked card. Of course. Of
45:07
course. They will stack the fuck out of that
45:09
card. Because fuck you. Come to Japan for it.
45:14
You want to watch it? Come to Japan. We got all
45:17
types of shit that's going to entice you. Yeah,
45:20
of course. Of course they're going to stack it.
45:23
Like, oh, God. I really hope it's in the first
45:27
half. The only thing I'm a little worried about
45:30
is they're going to put it in cherry blossom
45:32
season. And I don't know why that bothers me,
45:36
but I do not want to have to deal with allergies.
45:41
Well, and just Tokyo trains in cherry blossom
45:45
season. Right, a lot of travelers. And not just
45:49
foreigners. Like, Japanese people legit travel
45:54
to Tokyo to see the cherry blossoms. Yeah, I
45:57
mean exactly that. It's just people straight
46:01
up traveling. To go to the Cherry Blossoms. Yeah.
46:05
Yeah. Anyways, I am so stoked. That's really,
46:11
that's, even, I have so many questions. Like,
46:16
how are we guaranteeing that? What? Yeah, like,
46:22
it's boxing. It might fall apart. Exactly. But
46:24
I do, I do feel like the Japanese guys don't
46:28
really make these announcements until it's relatively
46:30
solid. Right. Right. They're not just yelling
46:33
and calling people out. Like, Inoue and Nakatani
46:38
have never even hinted that they were actually
46:41
going to fight soon. Right. So there's no hints.
46:47
There would be guarantees. Like, you have to
46:54
win your fights up to this point. I don't think
47:00
either of them said anything like that. I legitimately
47:04
think they both were just like, yeah, we're going
47:08
to fight next year. We both have fights lined
47:11
up, but we're fighting next year. That's the
47:16
part that I was worried about. Like, what happens
47:19
if one of them loses? I'm not saying that they
47:26
would. Would it matter, though? Would it matter
47:30
to anyone if either of them had a loss? No. I
47:40
wouldn't give a shit. I wouldn't give a shit.
47:42
As long as it's these two guys. I don't give
47:46
a shit. I don't give a shit. Nakatani could get
47:50
stopped. Inoue could get stopped. I don't care.
47:54
I don't care. I want to see Inoue and Nakatani
47:57
fight. What's the wait? Did they tell what the
48:01
weight is? Nakatani would come up, is my understanding.
48:04
Of course. What you'd expect. I actually found
48:11
an English article. I don't have to translate
48:13
here. Okay, so the JBC annual awards gala where
48:24
all of my boys were there looking super fucking
48:27
dapper. punch burgers pictures are amazing everything
48:31
about it i just love but uh and they they actually
48:36
um had the the lady with the pink hair her real
48:42
name is not mimi but that's what she calls herself
48:44
mizuki mizuki yeah yeah that i i have never not
48:52
that i've watched it that many times but i've
48:54
never seen any women at the the japanese boxing
48:57
commission and they they gave her an award good
49:00
she she rates yeah she does 100 okay so during
49:07
his acceptance speech inoue challenged nakatani
49:10
to fight him in 2026 let's explode japanese boxing
49:15
at the tokyo dome next year inua said Through
49:18
an interpreter, or according to an interpreter,
49:21
Nakatani rose from where he was sitting, went
49:24
over, and shook his hand and said, let's do it.
49:27
So, no details, but I really don't think they
49:33
would do this on such a public stage. Even if
49:40
it's just that handshake, they're not going to
49:43
back out of it. I don't think so. No way. But,
49:47
yeah, there's absolutely no dates or fucking
49:50
anything. Yeah, well. But I assume Nakatani's
49:55
going to come up. I think Inoue's going to hang
49:57
around at whatever that is, 122? Yeah, 22. And
50:04
wait for Nakatani to come up. That's a good fucking
50:08
fight that everybody wants to see. Absolutely.
50:11
Oh, I'm... For the audio audience, my boxing
50:19
boner is just fucking ripping apart right now.
50:24
That is exactly the kind of fight that I want
50:27
to see. Fucking crazy. And they both fight soon.
50:31
Right. So first half of 2026 lines up. I might
50:39
still be in Tokyo. Well, in Tokyo. I might still
50:43
be here. I might get to watch it live. Oh my
50:46
God. I don't, I might have to. How are you going
50:49
to secure tickets for the other people? Like
50:54
there's going to be a lot of us that want to,
50:56
that are going to want to come to that. I mean,
50:58
I, they're going to put caps on how many you
51:03
can buy. I assume, but I also have all the old
51:07
businessmen that will buy tickets for me if I
51:10
transfer the money. Yeah. I can get us tickets.
51:16
I am confident about that. But Tokyo Dome is
51:19
going to sell out. Oh, fuck. Of course it fucking
51:22
is. Are you fucking kidding me? I would pay for
51:26
a seat at the boxing bar. I would be willing
51:31
to go to that level just to be in the city or
51:36
in the prefecture when that goes down. Happens.
51:41
Yeah. I just want to be there, dude. Speaking
51:46
of the boxing bar, I have already had to reserve
51:50
my seat for the next in a way fight when he fights
51:53
in Vegas. It's not even that big of a fight.
51:55
It's not. It isn't. But the the owner texted
52:00
everyone in the group chat and he's like, reserve
52:03
your seat now because it's first come first serve.
52:06
He's like, it's OK if you guys cancel. he's like
52:10
i'll fill it don't worry don't worry about that
52:13
if you think you might want to come just tell
52:16
me now and i'll save you a spot so i have a seat
52:21
in tokyo but man that's gonna be at a shitty
52:25
fucking time i think i'm gonna have to do the
52:27
overnight thing i'm gonna have to catch the last
52:30
train to tokyo and drink from midnight to probably
52:35
10 a .m ish Oh, no. So terrible. Well, the fucking
52:44
Saudi cards, I always fall asleep. They have
52:46
to wake me up. Ah, well. Better you fall asleep
52:51
there than... I don't know. I can't speak to
52:55
how the... I've heard the anime bars are pretty
52:58
safe if you have a room. Oh, yeah. No, the rooms
53:04
are at least... You can pay to have a locking
53:07
door. That's all fine. Okay, cool. Yeah. But
53:11
no, this is just me, like, at the bar with a
53:14
bunch of old men and being like, oh, shit. I
53:17
just put my head down on the bar and sleeping
53:19
like a student in class. But at the same time,
53:23
like, you're, like, part of the circle, right?
53:27
Yeah, yeah. No, nobody's going to fuck with me.
53:29
Of course, no one's going to. Not in that bar.
53:33
I wouldn't do it in other bars. Yeah, that's
53:35
the thing that I'm thinking about. It's like,
53:38
man... People get roofied here. People are always
53:43
like, Japan is so safe. People get roofied here.
53:47
That's a thing you have to worry about anyways.
53:49
That's exactly what I was thinking about. People
53:55
aren't going to steal your shit while you're
53:57
roofied. What else is going to happen to you?
54:04
That's the type of shit. Don't make me fly out
54:08
to Japan to beat somebody up. You know, like
54:12
touching you or something like that. I mean,
54:15
the Japanese guys aren't that big. I could probably
54:17
handle it myself. I'm sure you could. But a big
54:22
old brown dude pounding your fucking face in
54:26
has a little bit of a different delivery. It
54:31
does. It does. I also think those 60 -year -old
54:35
men that used to balk would also have something
54:39
to say. I'm sure. But we don't have to get into
54:45
the dick measuring. Yeah, I imagine a bunch of
54:50
this is getting cut. Jesus, I have killed this
54:54
bottle of soju. Oh, well, I was waiting. We're
54:57
not even to review. We're not. I got this much
55:02
left. Well, all right. I got one of my little
55:05
buzz balls. Oh, I also have a beer, I think.
55:09
I got a tall boy of Asahi. But I do have to go
55:13
to work. Oh. Well, you probably should not have
55:19
had that whole bottle of soju. Nah, it's fine.
55:22
I just gotta count cultures on a plate for the
55:25
Chinese girl. If I can still count to 100, I
55:30
am good. Well, who can count to 100 anyway? I
55:36
get one of the little clickers. All right. So
55:41
we were at the Inouye Nakatani 2026. So I wanted
55:48
to bring up Bevo Better BF2 sells 134K on pay
55:57
-per -view. And I brought up other pay -per -view
56:01
numbers for comparison. Sorry, how much? Because
56:06
you said a different number than you have written
56:08
down. $340 ,000. Right, you said $134 ,000. Did
56:13
I? Wow, I'm not very good at this. $340 ,000.
56:19
That is more than I thought. That is the Bevo
56:23
Better Be Of Rematch pay -per -view number. So,
56:28
for reference... Dinero Alvarez versus Berlanga
56:37
sold $650 ,000. Gervonta Davis versus Lamont
56:45
Roach was $260 ,000. David Benavidez versus David
56:50
Murrell was $160 ,000. Now, the thing is that
56:55
people are calling Dimitri Bivol versus Artur
57:00
Beterbiev at $340 ,000. They're calling that
57:03
a pay -per -view flop. Which is ridiculous. Well,
57:09
the thing is that we have to consider how much
57:12
they were paid for the event. Do we know? Like,
57:18
Saudi's throwing money away. Everybody knows
57:21
Saudi's throwing money away. True, true. So if
57:24
you're going entirely on pay -per -view buys...
57:28
It did better. Yeah, that is a really good number.
57:33
In the post -Mayweather Pacquiao era, that 340
57:38
is a solid number. It really is. So, well, and
57:45
I don't think, how do I put this? They put too
57:48
many big names on the same pay -per -view. But
57:51
also, none of those were pay -per -view stars.
57:56
There wasn't one pay -per -view star on that
57:59
card. Not one. Not one. That was a degenerate
58:02
card. In all honesty, that was a card that boxing
58:07
fans knew a ton of names. But if you went on
58:10
the street to casuals that actually do kind of
58:15
watch boxing, they'll know Bivol and Beterbiev.
58:21
Or Beterbiev. Yeah. I mean, nobody that isn't
58:29
a hardcore fan knows who Joseph Parker is. That
58:34
was something that people were pointing out with
58:38
Benavidez vs. Morel. Was that Morel, of course,
58:43
nobody knows who the fuck this guy is. Hardcore
58:47
fans know who he is. Well, and I have a hard
58:51
time judging because we're in our little echo
58:53
chamber. Of course. What is what? But I... Like,
59:02
Benavides. Janabek was the one. I was like, people
59:06
know who Janabek is. Like, he's not popular,
59:09
but people know who he is. And they're like,
59:11
somebody was like, why? It's like, he's had multiple
59:15
belts and defended them. And I'm like, yeah,
59:17
but people don't know who the fuck he is. Yeah.
59:20
I mean, morale. Morale. I think would fall into
59:25
the same category as Johnny Beck. Morel had a
59:30
fringe -ish title, but nonetheless, he has highlight
59:39
reel performances. Yeah, but people know Shakur
59:46
Stevenson's name, but nobody is excited to watch
59:49
a Shakur fight. Nobody gives a fuck about Joseph
59:54
Parker. I think... Zhang is a name if you watch
59:58
boxing, but not really. Like, if you walked out
1:00:02
to a crowd that says they casually watch boxing,
1:00:07
who else was on this? Virgil Ortiz and Madrimov?
1:00:11
Oh, don't make Alex upset. I'm just saying, like...
1:00:19
These are not people that the average person
1:00:23
knows. More people probably know who Callum Smith
1:00:27
is than know who... Virgil Ortiz? No, I was going
1:00:33
to say Carlos Adamas, but maybe not. I have no
1:00:37
fucking scale of this. That's accurate. More
1:00:41
people knowing who Callum Smith over Carlos Adamas?
1:00:44
100 % accurate. Absolutely. So they're all names
1:00:49
to you and me and all of our friends. We know
1:00:52
who they are. Yeah, the Sickos, we know who they
1:00:55
are. But none of these people are pay -per -view
1:00:58
stars. No. The biggest name is Shakir Stevenson,
1:01:00
and no one pays for a pay -per -view with him
1:01:02
because he's boring as fuck. Man. So for that
1:01:08
event to do 340K... I was thinking of this in
1:01:14
the context of just wasted money, period. But
1:01:19
in the context of the Saudis wasting money, that
1:01:26
makes me happy. Whatever means the Saudi Arabians
1:01:31
are losing, that makes me happy. Are you listening,
1:01:34
Turkey? Are you going to get your fucking goons
1:01:37
to come to my house? Go ahead. Go ahead. that's
1:01:42
also news rumors whatever that turkey had an
1:01:45
egyptian guy arrested arrested disappeared i
1:01:51
have he had him he had him disappeared you want
1:01:56
to come to my house buddy like that's that's
1:01:59
up to you but uh i'm just gonna say 340k that's
1:02:03
a solid like pay -per -view performance it's
1:02:06
a solid buy it is that's a good number in the
1:02:10
post may pack era that's a good number it is
1:02:14
and if you decide to over stack a card that's
1:02:17
your problem right you could you top three fights
1:02:22
you could stack it and you probably would have
1:02:24
done the same number you could have moved like
1:02:27
um carlos adamas fucking Virgil Ortiz and we'll
1:02:34
say Callum Smith, move them to a separate pay
1:02:36
-per -view, would have done the same number.
1:02:39
Yep. And then you'd have had the separate pay
1:02:42
-per -view numbers for the super degenerates
1:02:44
like me who will pay to watch Callum Smith. You
1:02:49
would have had it with like, you could have divided
1:02:53
this into two events instead of calling it a
1:02:56
failure. But what really is a failure, turkey
1:02:59
a little shake. What's really a failure is you.
1:03:04
My hands are up because fuck you. His fucking
1:03:10
emotional tantrums about boxing lately have also
1:03:14
been... He's a little fucking child. He's a little
1:03:16
baby boy that expects his toys to play the way
1:03:20
that he wants them to. He gets so mad when the
1:03:23
fights don't end the way he thinks they should.
1:03:27
Man, little pissy boy. It's all good, dog. It's
1:03:31
all good. One day you're going to grow up. It's
1:03:33
all good. No, he's not. He's a rich, spoiled
1:03:36
brat that just pays people to do what he wants.
1:03:40
Well, speaking of rich, spoiled brats, Ryan Garcia
1:03:44
moves off to Derek. He moves back to Derek James.
1:03:51
I actually hadn't heard about this. Ryan Garcia
1:03:54
is such a piece of shit. Yes, he is. Yes, he
1:04:00
is. But here's one thing that I think is that
1:04:05
by moving back to Derek James, Derek James gets
1:04:10
to say, no more bullshit. If you want to come
1:04:15
back to my camp, I'm in charge. Do you think
1:04:21
that's going to stick though? I can only hope
1:04:26
because I would like for Ryan Garcia to be better
1:04:30
than he is. I would like to see him fucking crash
1:04:35
and burn and everyone forget he exists. Alright.
1:04:43
I'm a fucking elite level hater of Ryan Garcia.
1:04:49
I like For him, the worst thing in the world
1:04:52
is for people to forget about him. That would
1:04:56
be what upsets him the most. I don't want him
1:05:00
to die. I don't want anything overtly bad to
1:05:03
happen to him. No serious harm. Nothing like
1:05:04
that. Of course. I just want him to not be famous.
1:05:09
Fade out of the zeitgeist. Entirely. Yeah. Like,
1:05:14
I want him to get Lubegan. Lubegan. I don't know
1:05:21
why I picked him, but nobody remembers who he
1:05:23
is. I remember Lubega just because of the Lord
1:05:29
of the Rings one that I shared with you, like
1:05:33
the Lubega. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. One for the
1:05:41
Monica in our lives, two for the Erica by our
1:05:45
sides. But there was one dance that Lou Bega
1:05:49
saved. Yeah. The Dark Lord Bega. Anyways. Anyway.
1:05:57
Yeah, I guess if Derek James can get Ryan Garcia's
1:06:01
shit together. But I personally don't want him
1:06:06
to. I personally want Ryan Garcia to fail. Yeah,
1:06:10
well. My opinion does not matter. I will be adding
1:06:15
Ryan Garcia's success with Derek James into my
1:06:22
Tenshin Asakawa category. Ah, fuck off. Fuck
1:06:28
off. Well, here's what we're not fucking off
1:06:35
with. Oi, Yokoyama. Gets the win. I only got
1:06:42
to watch part of this fight. He looked good.
1:06:45
He was super fucking impressive. No notes. Very
1:06:52
impressive. This is a young man that you want
1:06:55
to keep your eyes on. So, in case you forgot,
1:06:58
I picked AOA as my prospect of the year last
1:07:02
year. You did. I did. He just won the Oriental
1:07:08
Pacific... OPBF. Yes, thank you. In his third
1:07:15
professional fight, which, if I am understanding
1:07:18
translations properly, he is the fastest person
1:07:22
to ever do it. Number of fights -wise. Not the
1:07:25
youngest, but the fastest. It's fucking crazy.
1:07:30
They threw my boy to the wolves and he came home
1:07:33
with a new coat. Like, he looked fucking impressive.
1:07:36
It's the beginning of 300. Yeah. Which is exactly
1:07:40
what you just described. That's what it is. I
1:07:45
am so high on this kid. And he is also the kid
1:07:49
I always talk about that volunteers at the retirement
1:07:51
home. And he seems like such a good person. I
1:07:56
want him to do so well. and i looked up what
1:07:59
his name actually means so not the characters
1:08:02
because i don't know how to read that but aoi
1:08:05
means blue and he has the character for ocean
1:08:09
in his first name but his last name is yogoyama
1:08:13
which is the next mountain so he's blue from
1:08:19
the next mountain over there i don't know why
1:08:22
that makes me happy but it does no it's pretty
1:08:26
cool to learn more about who the guys like who
1:08:32
the people are that are coming up like um so
1:08:36
he's signed with the comedas which is the only
1:08:40
thing i'm a little wary about that concerns me
1:08:44
too like they have a connection i don't remember
1:08:49
which major promoter but they do have a connection
1:08:52
to one of them They do, but they are also a family
1:08:56
that the Japanese Boxing Commission hates. Oh,
1:08:59
shit. Because of their behavior when they were
1:09:04
boxing. The Kamedas are very controversial. We'll
1:09:08
just leave it at that. Because they what? Because
1:09:10
they lived and trained in Mexico? And they had
1:09:14
a personality. So they learned to be Mexican.
1:09:18
And then they came back to Japan. Like, we are
1:09:21
Mexican, like, in culture, shitting in Japanese
1:09:26
language. Yeah, like, I have no problem with
1:09:31
anything the Kamedas ever did. Shrugging my shoulders
1:09:34
for the audio. Yeah, but, like, Japan has a problem
1:09:39
with the Kamedas. Of course they do. They don't
1:09:41
fucking like Ioka for no apparent reason, as
1:09:44
far as I can tell. Because he's from Osaka. So
1:09:48
are the Kamedas. Oh, well, surprise, surprise.
1:09:52
Of course they hate them. He's from Kansai, so
1:09:57
he's not even from the city. He's from some small
1:09:59
town. But this event was fucking hilarious, by
1:10:05
the way. I don't know where you were watching
1:10:08
it, but I watched it live. But it was concerts
1:10:12
and boxing. Like, that was what it was billed
1:10:18
as. It was a weekend of music and combat sports.
1:10:22
But it was actually only boxing. Two -day event
1:10:25
just outside of Nagoya. I always get them confused.
1:10:32
I'm pretty sure it's Nagoya. And they had fucking
1:10:37
idol -colored lights and dancing and DJ. battles
1:10:43
and shit between the fights it's what Saudi wants
1:10:49
it to be but with an actual atmosphere and uh
1:10:54
I actually I had priced out tickets but I couldn't
1:10:58
not a price thing I just couldn't take the time
1:11:01
off work but anyways that's where AOA is from
1:11:06
so of course he signed with the promoters that
1:11:10
are near him and speak the same dialect as him
1:11:12
and are super famous. Like, I'm not shitting
1:11:16
on him for it, but the Japanese Boxing Commission
1:11:19
is going to shit on him for it. And I kind of
1:11:22
hope he moves to someone else whenever his contract
1:11:25
is up. Because this event was not popular. It
1:11:30
was not one of the ones that's very well advertised
1:11:34
or anything else. And there were title fights.
1:11:37
There were... This is the same as that weekend
1:11:40
event where Tsutsumi won his title from Little
1:11:47
Inoue. But it wasn't fucking advertised because
1:11:52
it's in the middle of nowhere. Nagoya is a small
1:11:54
city in Japan. And it's a Kameda production,
1:12:00
so... All the ingredients are wrong, right? But
1:12:06
this is just me as a foreigner, maybe misinterpreting
1:12:10
things, but I don't think so. So Aoi Yokoyama
1:12:14
is going to be fucking great. He is definitely
1:12:17
winning at least one world title. And he needs
1:12:22
a promoter that the Japanese government's going
1:12:25
to like and let him get out of Japan. Does he
1:12:29
need the Japanese government to get outside of
1:12:32
Japan? Because if he has the Kameda family promoting
1:12:37
him, he could leave and go up the Mexican chain
1:12:45
of boxing. Has that ever happened, though? Question
1:12:48
mark. Because that's what the Kameda family did,
1:12:51
was they left Japan for exactly these reasons.
1:12:57
Is Mexico going to let them promote a Japanese
1:13:01
fighter in Mexico? Yes. I just haven't heard
1:13:06
of it. I haven't either. I haven't either. Maybe
1:13:09
they've never had anybody that good. I don't
1:13:12
know. But if that's a fucking option, why didn't
1:13:16
Nyoka do that? I would like for Nyoka to do that.
1:13:21
I think it's way too late now. For him, yeah.
1:13:26
But, like, if that's an option, why has no one
1:13:29
ever done it? If anyone is going to do it, it's
1:13:32
going to be the Kamedas. They have the connections.
1:13:38
I mean, Junto's the closest thing. Right. He's
1:13:45
not with the Kamedas, though, right? No, no,
1:13:47
but he trains not in Mexico, I guess, but with
1:13:51
a Mexican. Southern California in a Mexican camp.
1:13:55
Yeah. But, like, the Japanese Boxing Commission
1:14:00
likes Nakatani. Right. Man. And there's no reason
1:14:06
they shouldn't like Aoi either. Like, he has
1:14:10
no tattoos. He has no controversies. He has nothing
1:14:15
bad yet. But if he hangs out with the Kameidas,
1:14:19
he's going to get scandals. Whether they're warranted
1:14:22
or not, he will get scandals. That would be like
1:14:26
signing with people known to deal with the Kinahans
1:14:30
or whatever their name is. MTK or Probellum.
1:14:36
I think those were the Kinahan groups. Yeah,
1:14:40
like even if you as a person are spotless, just
1:14:44
dealing with those people kind of tarnishes you.
1:14:48
Jamel Herring was like that. Spotless, but he...
1:14:55
Signed with Kinahan. Yeah. I'm just saying. I
1:15:00
get you. I get you. I want this kid to be smart.
1:15:03
But he is fucking adorable and they always give
1:15:07
him the little tear videos. Love it. Oh, shit.
1:15:12
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Cool. Cool. Are we... My day is off the rails.
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Are we drinking or not drinking? I'm drinking
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right now. Okay. I have a tall boy. Welcome to
1:16:53
the fucking show! Alright, just a quick blurb,
1:16:55
just so you can get back to what you were doing.
1:16:58
Why would a boxing fan, let's assume they're
1:17:05
like a purist or some shit, why would they want
1:17:08
to watch MMA, why would they want to listen to
1:17:11
an MMA show? I'm gonna come at this from sort
1:17:14
of like a primal level. So, I will admit there
1:17:17
are like some very, like... unique and like stark
1:17:21
differences between MMA and boxing and it seems
1:17:25
like one of the main things that keeps boxing
1:17:28
fans away from MMA is the grappling aspect and
1:17:32
yet sometimes it can be you know a lay and pray
1:17:35
type of fight and it can get old but man like
1:17:40
it's just instinctual man some of these people
1:17:43
the way they fight in MMA Is just brutal. And
1:17:47
I feel like that's what it comes down to. When
1:17:49
it comes to being a combat fan. A combat sports
1:17:51
fan. I mean. We saw just recently. Mauricio Rufi.
1:17:58
Versus Bobby Green. Spinning back. Or spinning
1:18:02
a wheel kick. Man. I mean they went viral. And
1:18:08
it's something that everyone can appreciate.
1:18:09
Even boxing fans. I know a few. I have a few
1:18:12
friends that are boxing fans. who I sent him
1:18:16
that clip. I mean, and they were amazed. One
1:18:20
even told me that they wish they would have seen
1:18:22
it live because seeing that type of stuff live
1:18:26
just elicits a euphoric feeling that you can't
1:18:31
get. I mean, it happens in boxing, too, whenever
1:18:33
you see an amazing fight. But I just got to say,
1:18:36
in MMA, you get those type of fights as well,
1:18:41
just in a different type. It's different, but
1:18:44
sort of the same. It's sort of weird how I describe
1:18:48
it, but it's different, but the same. It comes
1:18:50
down to that same like carnal or primal instinct
1:18:53
of just like fights. Yeah, I always think like
1:18:58
the biggest, the easiest transition that I always
1:19:01
recommend, I say this all the time on Ultimate
1:19:04
Fucking Casuals, is if you're not too keen on
1:19:09
the grappling, Muay Thai and kickboxing. are
1:19:13
exactly where you want to start. Like, you start
1:19:16
working on the kicks, the elbows, the knees,
1:19:19
all that stuff, and you can come to learn to
1:19:23
appreciate grappling. I never thought I would,
1:19:26
and here I am. Yeah. Like I said, some of it
1:19:30
is very boring, some of the grappling. It depends
1:19:33
on the fighters, but sometimes, man, there's
1:19:34
boring boxing fights all the time. Yeah. Yeah,
1:19:38
no, yeah, you're true. I mean, you're right.
1:19:40
But, man, some of these grapplers, man, these
1:19:42
scrambles that they do, it is, like, pretty crazy
1:19:46
just to see it. Like, you know, rolling around
1:19:48
the floor. I mean, you can see the stuff that
1:19:50
they're doing in between the scrambles. I mean,
1:19:52
it's sort of crazy. Flipping someone over, the
1:19:54
trips. I mean, it can be fun. But, yeah, you're
1:19:57
right. The easiest transition is definitely start
1:20:00
out with Muay Thai, kickboxing, and, you know,
1:20:02
slowly work your way into MMA. And, you know,
1:20:05
this is the thing about the ultimate fucking
1:20:08
casuals. We will let you know which fights are
1:20:11
going to be good. Which ones, you know, if you're
1:20:14
not too in tune with the grappling, we can get
1:20:17
maybe a little tag or a little asterisk on certain
1:20:22
fights saying, like, this is a boxing purist
1:20:24
type of fight. Yeah. You can watch this and enjoy
1:20:27
this. Like, we'll let you know. Yeah, we always
1:20:31
try. Like, I came into this. The whole show was
1:20:35
started with me. I didn't know shit. about MMA.
1:20:38
I'd never really seen an MMA fight in its entirety
1:20:41
in my entire life. And I came into this with
1:20:43
nothing. And yeah, that's where we're at now
1:20:46
is like, we're talking to like, I make sure I
1:20:49
go out of my way to bring up Muay Thai and bring
1:20:52
up kickboxing so that people know like this for
1:20:55
boxing fans to know this is what, this is where
1:20:59
you can start. All right. Well, that was about
1:21:03
it. I really appreciate your time. Thanks, Isaac,
1:21:07
for jumping on real quick. Thanks for having
1:21:09
me on. All right. Thank you. All right. Just
1:21:15
to get right into it, Nathan, you and I both
1:21:18
tried the Strikeman dry fire system. What did
1:21:23
you like about it? No, scratch that. What did
1:21:28
you dislike? about uh i tried i have the 380
1:21:32
acp and i have the 65 creedmoor what did you
1:21:35
test out and what did you dislike just to start
1:21:38
off so i got the uh 223 556 caliber uh system
1:21:44
um and really my only um complaints really just
1:21:52
came from the platform i was using so i my 556
1:21:55
is a AR -15 platform, semi -automatic. Just in
1:22:01
that context, a little tough to use because it
1:22:05
requires the trigger to be reset before every...
1:22:09
So it's pulling the charging handle over time,
1:22:11
right? Right, you're not relying on the gunpowder
1:22:15
resetting your... recycling around, so you have
1:22:19
to rack that thing back and let the bolt fly.
1:22:24
But, that being said, there's plenty of other,
1:22:27
uh, you know, different types of systems that
1:22:31
use five, five, six. You don't have to use, uh,
1:22:34
AR style and the auto system. Yeah. We're in
1:22:38
that context when you, when you have a big old
1:22:41
bolt like that, um, worry. Sorry, I lost my train
1:22:46
of thought there. Let me chop that up. But in,
1:22:48
in that context, um, it was a little tough to
1:22:51
use. I think this is a system that's much more
1:22:55
oriented towards either bolt action or a pistol
1:22:58
style, where you could just rack the slide, reset
1:23:03
the trigger, and then you're ready to go. Yeah,
1:23:07
I had a similar experience on the 6 .5 Creedmoor.
1:23:11
I have a bolt action, so you don't have to go
1:23:14
through the full range of motion to get it reset,
1:23:18
but you do still have to pop. the bolt and then
1:23:21
put it back down to get, to get the trigger reset.
1:23:24
But as you were alluding to the pistol version,
1:23:27
I have my three 80 is a single action, double
1:23:32
action. So I don't have to rack the slide, but
1:23:36
I can't, I do still have to pull down the, uh,
1:23:39
the hammer a little bit to get it to fire off.
1:23:43
Gotcha. Uh, what about the, what did you think
1:23:47
about that? I thought the app was really cool.
1:23:51
The setup was very easy. It took less than five
1:23:54
minutes to get the whole stand and phone configured.
1:23:58
I do really like a lot of the gamified features
1:24:01
that are kind of put in there. So there's like
1:24:02
some different challenges and you can get on
1:24:05
kind of leaderboards and do matches with people.
1:24:08
And I think that's just really cool because,
1:24:09
you know, when it comes to getting better at
1:24:12
shooting. one of the best ways to do that is
1:24:15
learning how to shoot under pressure and so having
1:24:18
something that's very low stakes like this you
1:24:22
know that is a it's going to force you to be
1:24:24
accurate but um it's going to do so in a way
1:24:29
where it's making you you know you're not just
1:24:31
doing it repetitively to range you're trying
1:24:34
to almost beat yourself or beat a friend and
1:24:36
that competition you know that raising of the
1:24:39
stakes is going to help you become a calmer shot
1:24:41
over time i think I really enjoy that aspect
1:24:44
of the app. Yeah, that's something I've heard
1:24:48
discussed when it comes to pressure shooting
1:24:51
is your max effective range, cut that in half,
1:24:56
and that's about what you're looking at shooting
1:24:58
under pressure. So if you're practicing with
1:25:03
friends, it makes it a lot easier than, I don't
1:25:08
know, we'll call it a zombie apocalypse. You
1:25:11
know, when you don't have walkers coming down
1:25:13
to your face, that's a whole lot easier to just
1:25:16
play around with friends. And also, you're doing
1:25:19
it without spending any money on ammo. Like,
1:25:21
obviously, we've all just happened to the stock
1:25:24
market these last few days, and ammo could become
1:25:27
significantly more expensive. But now with the
1:25:30
Strikeman laser firearm training system, you
1:25:36
don't have to spend oodles of money on ammo.
1:25:40
You can take your time in the comfort of your
1:25:42
own home and practice all you want. Man, that
1:25:46
was actually kind of tough, like moving it back.
1:25:48
I started off at what was it like? Like 10 feet.
1:25:56
And then I moved it back to 20. And even that
1:25:59
just that little bit was still like, man, I did.
1:26:02
I thought I was good, but I apparently need a
1:26:06
lot more practice. but good to find out here
1:26:11
i think being on that timer too really shows
1:26:14
like oh wow this is kind of the gap in in skill
1:26:18
that i i need to work on you know there might
1:26:20
be it's also different ranges this is similar
1:26:24
to like archery or long range shooting really
1:26:26
but like you could be really good at 100 yards
1:26:29
but you go out to like 125 or an odd number and
1:26:32
all of a sudden you're you're messed up oh right
1:26:35
so this this is you know being able to very quickly
1:26:38
just change the ranges that you're shooting at.
1:26:41
Again, just in your home, in your backyard, whatever.
1:26:44
Like, that's a really, really helpful skill you
1:26:48
can hone with this system. Oof, yeah. Well, overall,
1:26:55
I would call this a, what, four out of five buy?
1:26:59
Like, it really depends on what it is that you're
1:27:01
trying to do or what you're trying to practice
1:27:04
with. I can't speak to any of the other calibers,
1:27:08
but if it's like a handgun caliber, I always
1:27:12
say if you can get a single double, get a single
1:27:16
double. But I know that's not useful for everyone.
1:27:21
Nonetheless, it should still help to increase
1:27:25
your max effective range, like under pressure,
1:27:28
right? Like I said, cut your original in half.
1:27:32
Yeah, and I agree with that recommendation. I
1:27:35
think any kind of pistol caliber, I think, is
1:27:36
really well suited to this system. I think if
1:27:40
you're going to do rifle, I think bolt action
1:27:42
is probably going to be your best bet. But yeah,
1:27:46
I definitely concur with your assessment on its
1:27:49
usefulness as a pistol training tool, which I
1:27:51
think is, if you look at, I think it's what they're
1:27:54
aiming for when they're marketing this. They
1:27:59
did well there. I think they have shotgun gauges
1:28:02
as well. Like that's kind of wild. Not what I
1:28:07
would have expected for like a dry fire kind
1:28:10
of training thing. But hey. Oh, that sounds like
1:28:14
it would actually work because you'd just be
1:28:16
for a pump action. Yeah, you just pump it, right?
1:28:21
Yeah, that's right. All right. Well, Nate, thanks
1:28:25
for jumping on real quick. Just wanted to get
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