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Hunter Biden's Lawyers LEVERAGED the President as a Threat to Stop Investigation! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's lawyers apparently leveraged the President of United States
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Speaker 1: of America as a threat to make sure that the
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Speaker 1: investigation into Joe Biden didn't go anywhere. Yes, hunter Biden's
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Speaker 1: lawyers threatened to put the President on the stand. A
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Speaker 1: new report out says Hunter Biden's lawyers apparently warned the
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Speaker 1: prosecutors last year that Hunter Biden's defense would in fact
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Speaker 1: put the President on the stand to testify in his
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Speaker 1: son's defense if criminal charges were ever brought against him.
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Speaker 1: According to this new report, Hunter's lawyer Chris Clark wrote
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Speaker 1: a letter to prosecutors last October after newsleak that federal
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Speaker 1: agents had enough evidence to charge the first son with
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Speaker 1: illegally buying a firearm while still using crack cocaine. Clark
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Speaker 1: said that if the Justice Department did in fact charge
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, the defense would be forced to put the
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Speaker 1: Commander in chief on the witness stand. In the message
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Speaker 1: obtained by Politico, it's said President Biden now unquestionably would
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Speaker 1: be a fact witness for the defense in any criminal trial.
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Speaker 1: That is what Clarke wrote in the thirty two page
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Speaker 1: letter that's now been obtained by Politico. Now the email,
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Speaker 1: along with an additional three hundred pages of emails reviewed
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Speaker 1: by Politico, gives us a very new, unreported insight in
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Speaker 1: the Hunter's sweet plea bargain deal that he was given
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Speaker 1: by the now special prosecutor who was the guy who
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Speaker 1: gave him. The sweetheart deal would have kept him out
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Speaker 1: of prison, we know that. But it also would have
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Speaker 1: kept him out of any future indictments. All of that
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Speaker 1: fell apart at the last minute last month, after whistleblowers
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Speaker 1: came forward detailing the corruption of the Biden crime family,
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Speaker 1: now the young Biden fifty three, he pleaded not guilty
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Speaker 1: to federal tax and gun charges in Delaware on July
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Speaker 1: the twenty six after the deal, which was bashed by
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Speaker 1: many for its leniency, was pulled by the US district judge.
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Speaker 1: The judge had concerns over quote ongoing investigations, ongoing probes,
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Speaker 1: and to other potential offenses committed by Hunter, including failing
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Speaker 1: to register as a foreign agent for lucrative dealings with
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Speaker 1: foreign countries that allegedly involved his father. After persistent questioning,
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Speaker 1: Clark declared the deal quote no and void. Now in exchange,
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Speaker 1: all right, I should say in the exchangees in the
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Speaker 1: prior month, Clark and his team often told prosecutors during
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Speaker 1: private negotiations that they were worried about the intense political
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Speaker 1: atmosphere surrounding the case. Again this, according to Politico, they
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Speaker 1: raised concerns multiple times over pressure from Republican lawmakers and
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Speaker 1: argue that the case could tarnish the DOJ's reputation because
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Speaker 1: they would be having to cross examine or question or
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Speaker 1: defend a sitting president of the United States of America,
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Speaker 1: who would be called by Hunter Biden's team that, by
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Speaker 1: the way, is the ultimate leverage here.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Clark said that trying the present son hitting the president
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Speaker 1: against his own Justice Department, because obviously he would defend
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Speaker 1: his son, they were saying, would create constitutional chaos. They argue,
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Speaker 1: saying this is this of all cases, justifies neither the
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Speaker 1: spectacle of a sitting president testifying in a criminal trial
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Speaker 1: nor the potential for a resulting constitutional crisis. Hunter Biden's lawyer,
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Speaker 1: Clark wrote, we also know that this judge dismissed the
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Speaker 1: tax misdemeanor charges against the first one Hunter Biden. On Thursday,
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Speaker 1: Attorney General Merritt Garland appointed the Delaware US Attorney David Wise,
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Speaker 1: who authored the sweetheart plea deal to serve as special
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Speaker 1: counsel in the case. The appointment will allow him to
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Speaker 1: bring charges without the approval of Biden appointees in other
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Speaker 1: districts that blocked Weiss's previous efforts. They claim to charge
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Speaker 1: Hunter with millions of dollars with millions of dollars of
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Speaker 1: tax fraud charges. Hunter, by the way, is expected to
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Speaker 1: stand trial in either Washington, d c. Or Southern California,
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Speaker 1: both places where jury pools and judges will more than
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Speaker 1: likely be very favorable to Hunter Biden, and that's exactly
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Speaker 1: why they've chosen those areas. Now, if you think about
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Speaker 1: this dynamic, you have a former president of the United
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Speaker 1: States of America who gets elected his son is embezzling
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Speaker 1: money at the levels that we couldn't even imagine even
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Speaker 1: a month to go. We're now being told by James
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Speaker 1: Comer it could be upwards of forty to fifty to
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Speaker 1: sixty million dollars in bribes that came into the Bidens.
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Speaker 1: And then you have lawyers for Hunter Biden threatening the
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Speaker 1: Department of Justice that we will put the president on
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Speaker 1: the stand and that will put you in opposite sides
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Speaker 1: with the sitting president United it's America, who happens to
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Speaker 1: be your boss. That's one hell of a threat. It
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Speaker 1: is a threat that I think everybody should take seriously.
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Speaker 1: It is a threat that that was done and they
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Speaker 1: knew what they were doing. It was a reminder you
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Speaker 1: don't screw with the president of United States of America or
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Speaker 1: his family. You don't go after the family. You don't
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Speaker 1: do anything against Hunter Biden. And if you do, then
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Speaker 1: the President's going to be very unhappy, and you're going
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Speaker 1: to have to go up against him in testamony because
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Speaker 1: we will absolutely call him to defend his son. That
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Speaker 1: is a threat that I would argue, there's no way
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Speaker 1: it wasn't choreographed, okay, by the Biden team, with the
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Speaker 1: father who happens to be the president involved. There's no
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Speaker 1: way that legal strategy came up by accident or just
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Speaker 1: without the president's knowledge. I think what we clearly know
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Speaker 1: now is that this president knew how to make sure
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Speaker 1: that his son was protected. Once he became the president.
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Speaker 1: He knew they can't make they can't take this risk, right,
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Speaker 1: That's what it really boils down to. They can't take
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Speaker 1: this risk. There's no way they can take this risk.
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Speaker 1: This is too great of a risk. They're not going
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Speaker 1: to go after their own boss, the president of the
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Speaker 1: United States of America. Remember, all of these people serve
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Speaker 1: quote unquote at the pleasure of the President. You think
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Speaker 1: the DOJ or anybody else involved is going to be
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Speaker 1: okay with that scenario, of course not. They don't want
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Speaker 1: to be in that scenario. They don't want to deal
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Speaker 1: with this the way that it was just described. And
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Speaker 1: it makes sense why, Like I genuinely understand it now,
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Speaker 1: I get it.
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Speaker 2: I comprehend it.
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Speaker 1: This was a fix that they had thought every single
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Speaker 1: move that they may have to make, and every single
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Speaker 1: time it was a trump card that we will bring
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden in here and you're screwed.
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Speaker 2: That's what it really was.
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Speaker 1: Now, while all of this is happening, there's something else
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Speaker 1: that has happened around Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 2: That is three more.
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Speaker 1: If Hunter Biden's lawyers have moved to withdraw from the
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Speaker 1: case defending him, since this is going to be a
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Speaker 1: real case now, not one, not two, but three. If
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Speaker 1: hunter Biden's offense attorneys moved to a draw from the
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Speaker 1: case late on Friday, after the lead attorney, Chris Clark
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Speaker 1: withdrew last week. Yeah, so that's four now total, Lengtham
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Speaker 1: and Watkins, the attorney office, and the attorneys in there.
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Speaker 1: Brian McManus, Timothy mccarton, Matthew Salerno requested permission from the
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Speaker 1: judge to withdraw from the case after the judge just
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Speaker 1: missed the pleading on August seventeenth. Moving forward, prosecutors expect
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Speaker 1: the case to go to trial, where it will likely
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Speaker 1: be tried in Delaware or California. Now you've got to
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Speaker 1: ask yourself this question, why did this happen?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 1: Brian McManus, counsel for the defendant, Robert Hunter Biden, and respectfully,
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Speaker 1: this is what he wrote, requests this honorable Court to
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Speaker 1: withdraw all appearances for the law firm of Lengtham and
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Speaker 1: Watkins as counsel for the defendant in the above caption matter.
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Speaker 1: The motion reads, mister Biden has been advised of and consents.
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Speaker 1: Now there's also another aspect that has to be considered
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Speaker 1: and everything I just told you, and that is that
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Speaker 1: the media Democrats are starting to get worried. They're starting
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Speaker 1: to fret that Hunter will cloud his dad's campaign for
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Speaker 1: the presidency. This was part of that conversation on CNN
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Speaker 1: where they were actually talking about this, and at the
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Speaker 1: bottom it actually said on the screen Hunter Byden investigation.
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Speaker 1: DEM's worried Hunter will cloud Dad's campaign.
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Speaker 3: Listen an agenda at this point, And Jeff like, we're
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Speaker 3: starting to see in twenty twenty four for Trump not
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Speaker 3: to say apples to apples here. But there are the
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Speaker 3: there are legal problems, and there are the political implications
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Speaker 3: of those legal problems.
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Speaker 2: What does this mean politically for Biden?
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Speaker 4: I think politically it removes some of the moral high
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Speaker 4: ground that he might have against you all the Trump accusations.
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Speaker 4: And among Democrats it probably doesn't matter. But among independent
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Speaker 4: voters who are like, you know, just this is why
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Speaker 4: we don't like government, they all just smell a little
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Speaker 4: crooked here.
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Speaker 2: I think that could be an issue.
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Speaker 4: And also perhaps the most important, how it directly impacts
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Speaker 4: the president's thinking in his head. He is so defensive
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Speaker 4: of Hunter Biden, and I think that this has the
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Speaker 4: potential of really agitating him. And you know, I just
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Speaker 4: think it's a bad look. But we don't know how
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Speaker 4: long this is going out. But Land's right, a child
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Speaker 4: does not have to be unfolding here. No one wants
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Speaker 4: a special counsel. And this is the second special counsel
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Speaker 4: that is looking into the Biden family, if you will,
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Speaker 4: I mean the other one is still looking into the
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Speaker 4: President's a handling a classified documents. So you don't want
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Speaker 4: a special counsel because it opens a box and a
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Speaker 4: door to who knows what right?
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Speaker 2: And I want I.
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Speaker 1: Love by the way, They're like, you don't want a
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Speaker 1: special counsel, Sure you do if it's David Weiss. And
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Speaker 1: this is where the media is spinning. They have no
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Speaker 1: problem with this. David Wisse is the guy the gave
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Speaker 1: him a sweetheart deal. David Whisse's the one that refused
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Speaker 1: to bring charges. David Wise is the one that ran
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Speaker 1: out the clock on the statue of limitations on the
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Speaker 1: most egregious crime that Hunter Biden was being accused of.
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Speaker 1: David Weiss is now the special counsel. So you know
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Speaker 1: that David Weiss is going to hook you up. You
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Speaker 1: know this, It's not hard for anyone to see that
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Speaker 1: this is clearly not a threat to the presidency when
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Speaker 1: it comes to that Special Council. In fact, it's a
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Speaker 1: mockery of the justice system. It is a fox guarding
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Speaker 1: the hen house. There is no difference between David Weiss
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Speaker 1: two weeks ago and David Weiss today. There is absolutely
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Speaker 1: no difference here whatsoever. And I think that if you're
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Speaker 1: at the White House right now, honestly knowing how many
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Speaker 1: people are defending you, knowing how many people are protecting you,
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Speaker 1: knowing how many people are willing to look like, I
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Speaker 1: mean this just like complete idiots, complete morons, right. I
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Speaker 1: mean we're talking about morons here because they got to
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Speaker 1: keep their jobs. That's part of it, right, They need
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Speaker 1: to keep their power. The people that are around the president,
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Speaker 1: the DOJ, the FBI, they know what happens if a
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Speaker 1: Republican wins, especially if that republican's Donald Trump. So that's
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Speaker 1: why I guess they're willing to cover up crimes.
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Speaker 2: So they can at least keep their jobs.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a very interesting conversation that Mark Levin
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Speaker 1: had about this on his show Life, Liberty and Levin.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear what he had to say,
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Speaker 1: comparing what Hillary Clinton did to what the DOJ is prosecuting,
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Speaker 1: for example, Trump on right now and just talking about
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Speaker 1: this two tiered system of government.
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Speaker 2: It also relates to the Biden.
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Speaker 5: Stormer, So what did Hillary Clinton do she walks the
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Speaker 5: country free. She's gaggling all over the place. She's getting
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Speaker 5: into friendly media. She's laughing about all these indictments. Hillary
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Speaker 5: Clinton should be imprisoned for her entire life. Over forty
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Speaker 5: five hundred criminalsttes in the US Code that exists today,
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Speaker 5: the one mostly used the ones in conspiracy, false statements,
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Speaker 5: money laundering, obstruction, pergery, mail fraud, wire fraud, bank fraud,
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Speaker 5: tax evasion Hillary Clinton. To convict Clinton, it must be
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Speaker 5: shown that she acknowledged that classified emails will contained on
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Speaker 5: her private server, and they said the most recent tally
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Speaker 5: by the State Department of their review of thirty thousand
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Speaker 5: Clinton emails indicates at least six hundred and seventy one
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Speaker 5: emails sent or received by Clinton contained classified information. This
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Speaker 5: fact stands in stark contrast to the statement she gave
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Speaker 5: the reporters in July of that year, once she said
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Speaker 5: I'm confident that I've never sent nor received any information
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Speaker 5: that was classified at the time was center received. According
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Speaker 5: to the October sixteenth Fox News report, the FBI is
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Speaker 5: also looking to see if Clinton committed gross negligence under
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Speaker 5: the Espionage Act for failure to keep national defense Information
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Speaker 5: Safe eighteen USC. Seven ninety three. They're using that against Trump. Notably,
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Speaker 5: the information doesn't necessarily have to be MARCUS classified to
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Speaker 5: violate the statute. The article citing an intelligence community source
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Speaker 5: who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The intelligence source
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Speaker 5: that the subsection requires the lawful possession of national defense
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Speaker 5: information by a security clearance holder who, through gross negligence,
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Speaker 5: such as the use of an unsecure computer network, permits
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Speaker 5: the material to be removed or abstracted from its proper
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Speaker 5: secure location. She even hired an it purpose on her
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Speaker 5: own person, on her own time, who works for the
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Speaker 5: Department of State to handle the server. That's how much
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Speaker 5: she didn't want anyone to know about this serve. And
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Speaker 5: by the way, that's a crime too. You're not allowed
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Speaker 5: to subsidize or receive private money is for doing what
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Speaker 5: is a government job. And that's sort of what he
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Speaker 5: was doing for her at her request. But nobody talks
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Speaker 5: about that. She destroyed over thirty thousand emails, They destroyed
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Speaker 5: their cell phones. Nobody was dragged in front of a
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Speaker 5: grand jury. There was no search under her home for
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Speaker 5: any other servers or information. She did an interview. Her
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Speaker 5: staff was permitted to be there, her lawyers were permitted
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Speaker 5: to be there. Her lawyers destroyed this information based on
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Speaker 5: header information, not substantute information, and she skates. And the
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Speaker 5: Presidential Records Act that applies to Trump, which gives the
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Speaker 5: president authority over documents like no other official in the government,
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Speaker 5: including a Secretary of State or an ex secretary of State,
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Speaker 5: she didn't have that defense.
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Speaker 2: She didn't have that statue.
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Speaker 5: Trump has that, and he's charged with forty counts, and
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Speaker 5: he's charged with a total of ninety one counts from
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Speaker 5: these three prosecutors.
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Speaker 1: Mark Levet is right, and not only is he right
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Speaker 1: on this, but he's also right in the aspect of
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Speaker 1: this also relates to Joe Biden and the Biden crime family.
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Speaker 1: The same thing that they did with Hillary Quinton is
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Speaker 1: the same thing they're doing with the Bidens, except the
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Speaker 1: difference this time is there is there's real court cases
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Speaker 1: and real crimes that they're investigating, and so now the
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Speaker 1: threats are coming back of Okay, if you treat hunter
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Speaker 1: Biden like a normal human being, if you treat his
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Speaker 1: crimes like a normal human being, we will be forced
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Speaker 1: to then take the president United States of America, put
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Speaker 1: him on the stand to defend his son. And do
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Speaker 1: you really want to go against your boss? That's the threat.
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Speaker 1: Do you want to go against your boss? And these
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Speaker 1: people at the DOJ and the FBI, they know what's
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Speaker 1: going to happen to their jobs if any Republican is elected.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter which one. Let's say it's not Trump.
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Speaker 1: Let's say it's s Santus, Let's say it's a Bibic.
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Speaker 1: Let's say it's any of these except for maybe Chris Christie.
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Speaker 1: They know that their jobs are going to be gone instantly.
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Speaker 1: And if it is Donald Trump, they are also, I think,
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Speaker 1: extremely worried. They are extremely worried that not only are
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Speaker 1: they going to lose their jobs, but they may actually
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Speaker 1: be indicted.
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Speaker 2: They may actually have.
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Speaker 1: A special prosecutor that looks at the crimes that they
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Speaker 1: were committing and then comes after them. Even though they
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Speaker 1: were in the US government. There's a good chance that
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everything that they did is not
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Speaker 1: just going to be shown publicly, but then they will
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Speaker 1: be investigated. And by the way, I don't believe that's
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Speaker 1: a political witch hunt. If Donald Trump is elected, he
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Speaker 1: will have a mandate to do that.
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Speaker 2: One last thing that.
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Speaker 1: I also think is playing into this right now is
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's not very popular. And the reason why is
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Speaker 1: look at this. If you compare the first thirty months
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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden's presidency to Donald Trump jobs created, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of these, by the way, were when people
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Speaker 1: came back to work post COVID, So this number is
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Speaker 1: inflated because some people had quit their jobs, lost their jobs,
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Speaker 1: and they came back, and Biden's getting credit for that.
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Speaker 1: Post COVID. It is two point one million to Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: Four point nine million jobs are created by Trump. Manufacturing
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Speaker 1: jobs in the first thirty months too, are in there, woe.
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Speaker 1: One thousand jobs are created by Biden at the same
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Speaker 1: point in his presidency, almost a half a million for
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And look at the thirty year mortgage rate
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Speaker 1: seven point five to one on a thirty year mortgage
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Speaker 1: right now, the highest in twenty one years. What was
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Speaker 1: it in January of twenty twenty one, two point sixty five.
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Speaker 1: That's what this election is also going to be about.
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Speaker 1: Stannan now reporting this is pretty interesting that the DOJ
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Speaker 1: repeatedly took quote very lenient stance on Hunter. Biden only
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Speaker 1: changed that lenient stance after public pressure and the whistle
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Speaker 1: blowers came forward before Congress. Now, when CNN is reporting this,
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Speaker 1: you've got to start asking.
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Speaker 2: Yourself a question.
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Speaker 1: If it's this bad now, right, If it's this bad,
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Speaker 1: if this is what it looks like when you're at
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Speaker 1: the DOJ or the FBI, what does that say about
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Speaker 1: what else they may have been covering up. I want
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Speaker 1: you to take a listen, by the way to this
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Speaker 1: sound bite, and I want you to think about this
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Speaker 1: is the same network that knew at CNN that they
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Speaker 1: were lying to the American people about Russian collision. They
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Speaker 1: covered that wall to wall for the entire Trump presidency
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Speaker 1: and even a little bit before. I want you to
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Speaker 1: think about the fact they knew that this was a
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Speaker 1: dossier that could not be corroborated, but they still report
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Speaker 1: on it like it was total fact. And now they're
20:35
Speaker 1: sitting there in this really awkward position. You can't deny
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Speaker 1: what the whistleblowers have said. You can't deny, by the way,
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Speaker 1: that Hunter Biden got a sweetheart deal. You can't deny
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Speaker 1: the fact that now a bunch of his lawyers have
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Speaker 1: had to quit on him. Can't deny that there's massive
20:51
Speaker 1: conflicts of interest that we're learning about as well with
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Speaker 1: some of those that are supposed to be prosecuting Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 1: who actually used to work with his brother who has
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Speaker 1: passed away. Those are just some of the new headlines
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Speaker 1: that you just throw in here, like these are big
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Speaker 1: stories on their own, but when you put in the
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Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, you got to sit back and go, Wow,
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Speaker 1: should we ever trust the media ever again? If this
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Speaker 1: is how they act like they are propagandas for a
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Speaker 1: communist political organization, because that's basically what CNN is, the
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Speaker 1: communist news network. But when all this comes out the
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Speaker 1: way that it's come out, there's now these glimpses and
21:36
Speaker 1: I say glimpses of hope because I don't believe they're
21:38
Speaker 1: actually gonna change, but I think at some point they
21:41
Speaker 1: realize just how ridiculous they look, how bad they look,
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Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, fine, we look so bad.
21:47
Speaker 1: Let's let's give like a minute and twenty seconds of
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Speaker 1: accurate reporting.
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Speaker 2: That's that's what we'll do.
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Speaker 1: We'll just give We'll give a moment of this accurate reporting.
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Speaker 6: Take a listen, Alim glad you said around here, So
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Speaker 6: when we look at this this evolution. It really is
22:03
Speaker 6: quite the evolution in a fairly short period of time,
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Speaker 6: according to The New York Times. I know you've noted
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Speaker 6: on multiple occasions just how long this investigation had dragged on.
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Speaker 6: Have you ever seen a federal case play out like
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Speaker 6: this before?
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Speaker 2: No Erica.
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Speaker 7: It's really inexplicable to me. I mean, first, we had
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Speaker 7: basically five years of behind the scenes investigation with no transparency,
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Speaker 7: no action, and some questions being asked, what's taken so long?
22:26
Speaker 7: But in the last couple months, we've seen a pattern here.
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Speaker 7: Marshall just laid it out, and we've now seen it
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Speaker 7: play out two or three separate times. DOJ moves towards
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Speaker 7: a very lenient disposition. They're just about to lock in
22:37
Speaker 7: that lenient disposition, and then there arises pressure, either through
22:41
Speaker 7: whistleblower testimony or through public scrutiny, and then DJ backs
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Speaker 7: off and says, actually, we're not going to do that,
22:46
Speaker 7: now that it's been called out, We're going to try
22:48
Speaker 7: to up it a little bit. And then that happened again,
22:50
Speaker 7: and then they go all the way to appointing special
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Speaker 7: counsel the same guy who's been presiding over the case
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Speaker 7: for five plus years already, So I genuinely am perplexed
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Speaker 7: by what DOJ's doing here. I think they've made a
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Speaker 7: real mess for themselves and now they're going to have
23:03
Speaker 7: to deal with the consequences of it.
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Speaker 6: So, in terms of the mess and those consequences, look,
23:07
Speaker 6: public trust is certainly one of them. Is there anything
23:10
Speaker 6: that you see the DOJ could do, based on your
23:12
Speaker 6: experience right as a former federal prosecutor, to restore public
23:15
Speaker 6: confidence in this investigation? Is the only way to fix
23:18
Speaker 6: this a trial.
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Speaker 2: It may be Erica.
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Speaker 7: You know, DJ's sort of been in a darned if
23:23
Speaker 7: they do darned if they don't posture on this from
23:25
Speaker 7: the start, but they've made it way worse by sort
23:28
Speaker 7: of careening back and forth here. It may well be
23:30
Speaker 7: that any deal is never going to be accepted as fair.
23:33
Speaker 7: So if I'm in David Weiss's shoes here, Heaven help me,
23:36
Speaker 7: I would just say, look, we're charging everything we have,
23:39
Speaker 7: We're not in position to make a deal. It'll go
23:41
Speaker 7: to trial and we'll let the jury decide this. I
23:43
Speaker 7: think that's the only way to restore any credibility to
23:45
Speaker 7: this matter.
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Speaker 1: The only way to restore any credibility of this matter.
23:52
Speaker 1: That's coming from CNN. The New York Times is also
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Speaker 1: reporting this morning. Prosecute insisted this is the New York
24:02
Speaker 1: Times on Harsher Hunter Biden Plea deal. As irs whistleblowers
24:08
Speaker 1: came forward because they understood now that they had been busted, right,
24:13
Speaker 1: they thought they could just ram this deal. Through this
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Speaker 1: sweetheart deal. They would give him immunity from everything he'd
24:21
Speaker 1: ever done in the past. And then when they're doing that,
24:25
Speaker 1: then they could just walk away and go look at us,
24:27
Speaker 1: Look at how good we are. Look at how we
24:29
Speaker 1: were able to pull this off. Right, Look look at
24:33
Speaker 1: how we were able to pull this off. Look at
24:37
Speaker 1: what we were able to do. They were going to
24:40
Speaker 1: walk out of that Plea deal and go, Wow, we
24:43
Speaker 1: run the world, We own the world. We are better
24:49
Speaker 1: than everyone else. We are making the rules. We make
24:54
Speaker 1: the rules, how we are the government. And when that
24:58
Speaker 1: Plea deal explode, right, because only because of brave men
25:04
Speaker 1: and women who came forward as whistleblowers, did they then realize, Okay,
25:09
Speaker 1: we might not be able to get away with this now.
25:11
Speaker 1: I again, you go back to who the special counsel is.
25:16
Speaker 1: The special counsel is the same exact person that gave
25:21
Speaker 1: them the sweetheart deal. So this idea that what they
25:25
Speaker 1: should do and what they may do are two very
25:26
Speaker 1: different things. If you're waiting for them to do the
25:30
Speaker 1: right thing, I want to be clear, I'm not sure
25:33
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. Okay, I'm not I'm not sure
25:37
Speaker 1: that's actually going to happen. If you're waiting for there
25:41
Speaker 1: to be justice with this, I'm not sure that's going
25:43
Speaker 1: to happen the way that they just described it. I'm
25:46
Speaker 1: also not sure that that is going to happen. There's
25:51
Speaker 1: no integrity with these people. Yes, they got busted, right,
25:55
Speaker 1: I mean they did. They got busted. They got busted
25:58
Speaker 1: big time. And getting busted doesn't mean you're gonna fix it,
26:06
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna change it, doesn't mean you're gonna
26:10
Speaker 1: do it any differently. They're now trying to figure out
26:13
Speaker 1: how do we get out of being busted but still
26:15
Speaker 1: get what we want, which is limited exposure of the
26:19
Speaker 1: President of the United States of America, right limited That's
26:23
Speaker 1: the most important thing. Limited exposure for Joe Biden while
26:29
Speaker 1: also protecting Joe Biden's son, so he's not in prison
26:32
Speaker 1: like a normal person would be in prison for doing
26:35
Speaker 1: and committing these types of crimes.
26:38
Speaker 2: So how do we how do we pull that off? Right?
26:41
Speaker 1: Like, what do we do in that scenario? That's what
26:47
Speaker 1: they're going with here, That's that is the ballgame. I
26:53
Speaker 1: I for a second, all right, I don't believe for
26:56
Speaker 1: a second we're going to get something real here.
26:58
Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to be very very very very
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Speaker 2: very very very clear with that.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe for a moment that we're going to
27:08
Speaker 1: get anything here that's going to be meaningful. I don't
27:13
Speaker 1: believe that this is going to change.
27:16
Speaker 2: Okay.
27:16
Speaker 1: I don't believe that this is going to get any better.
27:20
Speaker 1: I do believe there could be a tad more accountability.
27:23
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure what CNN just said there is
27:26
Speaker 1: going to happen either, right, I'm really not I'm not
27:29
Speaker 1: sure that we're even going to get to a trial
27:33
Speaker 1: with all the charges that they just describe.
27:35
Speaker 2: I just don't see that actually happening.
27:39
Speaker 1: I assume that as soon as they think that we
27:41
Speaker 1: may not be paying attention, that we may be looking
27:45
Speaker 1: the other way, or that we may have moved on
27:47
Speaker 1: to something else. So there's another bigger news story. They
27:50
Speaker 1: will go right back to saying, Okay, let's slide this
27:53
Speaker 1: in there, right.
27:53
Speaker 2: Like, let's let let's let's.
27:56
Speaker 1: Slide it in there and see what we can pull
27:59
Speaker 1: off that, you know, let's see what we can get
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Speaker 1: away with. But when you have CNN actually saying this,
28:10
Speaker 1: I will say that that is a glimpse from one
28:13
Speaker 1: person who was brave enough to say just how bad
28:17
Speaker 1: this is on CNN. That is a glimpse of some hope.
28:21
Speaker 1: And I say some, I want to be clear, this
28:24
Speaker 1: is a very little bit of hope that maybe, just
28:27
Speaker 1: maybe this is something that may not work out the
28:32
Speaker 1: way the Biden crime family was hoping that it.
28:35
Speaker 2: Worked out, or that it would work out.
28:39
Speaker 1: Let me say one final thing in recap here about
28:42
Speaker 1: the Biden crime family and everything that we just learned
28:44
Speaker 1: real quick about. Not only is lawyers quitting on him
28:48
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, the corruption now with prosecutors that are supposed
28:52
Speaker 1: to be investigating him formerly worked with his brother Bo.
28:57
Speaker 1: It's going to take, by the way, more whistleblowers to
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Speaker 1: even keep this thing front and center. I don't know
29:04
Speaker 1: how many are out there. I don't know how many
29:07
Speaker 1: are going to be brave enough to come forward. And
29:09
Speaker 1: I understand people not coming forward if you've got kids,
29:13
Speaker 1: you've got a family to take care of, your career,
29:16
Speaker 1: individual with the I R. S. Or anywhere else in
29:18
Speaker 1: our government where you could, you know, instantly become a whistleblower.
29:22
Speaker 2: I'm serious when I say this. I understand why many.
29:26
Speaker 1: Whistleblowers don't come forward because if you know the system
29:29
Speaker 1: is so rigged that you have to be a whistleblower
29:31
Speaker 1: number one, okay, then number two is going to be
29:35
Speaker 1: even worse than that. The point I'm about to make,
29:37
Speaker 1: right because because number one, right, number one is that
29:43
Speaker 1: you are a you know, whistleblower, well, then number two
29:47
Speaker 1: is there's retaliation that comes after you. Right, there's there's
29:51
Speaker 1: total retaliation. People are going to come after you, and
29:58
Speaker 1: you may lose your career. You may have your career completely,
30:02
Speaker 1: you know, just shut out off right. You may never
30:05
Speaker 1: get to grow in your career. You may be labeled.
30:08
Speaker 1: And what if Joe Biden wins again? Is it fair
30:12
Speaker 1: to say at that point like you're just done right,
30:15
Speaker 1: Like at that point it's just game over. That's the
30:19
Speaker 1: problem here. That's the biggest problem that I see is
30:26
Speaker 1: that aspect of this Without more whistleblowers to keep putting
30:31
Speaker 1: pressure on them to do the right thing, I don't
30:35
Speaker 1: think that we're gonna win. I don't think that justice
30:38
Speaker 1: is gonna win. I hope there are more brave men
30:42
Speaker 1: and women that will come forward, and I hope that
30:44
Speaker 1: when they do, the media will be forced to cover it.
30:49
Speaker 1: That's what I hope. That's my goal. I think having
30:56
Speaker 1: an honest look at all this should be the goal
30:58
Speaker 1: of everybody. I think having an honest look at what
31:03
Speaker 1: is happening with this family should be the goal of
31:06
Speaker 1: anyone that cares about law and order. But when you
31:10
Speaker 1: look at the compare and contrast aspect of everything, of
31:14
Speaker 1: what they're doing to Donald Trump, I mean, he's gonna
31:18
Speaker 1: get arrested again this week, for goodness sakes, he's gonna
31:22
Speaker 1: get arrested again in Georgia for ridiculous crimes that they're
31:30
Speaker 1: charging him with. They're even charging him for things that
31:33
Speaker 1: he did outside the state, which is outside of jurisdiction.
31:35
Speaker 1: They don't care. That's how psychotic the left has become. Meanwhile,
31:41
Speaker 1: we're sitting here as conservatives, like, what do we do?
31:44
Speaker 1: How do we play this game? What should Republicans do.
31:48
Speaker 1: Should Republican das go after the Bidens and say, Okay,
31:51
Speaker 1: I don't care that the crime didn't happen here. If
31:53
Speaker 1: this is how the new game is gonna be played,
31:55
Speaker 1: then we're gonna play the game this way.
31:57
Speaker 2: It's a really.
31:58
Speaker 1: Tough sell for many conservative lawyers and das to not
32:05
Speaker 1: go down to the level of the Democrats and become activists.
32:08
Speaker 1: And I understand that, Like, it's really tough, but when
32:13
Speaker 1: you see this type of abuse of power, then you
32:18
Speaker 1: ask yourself what's next? And if we don't fight back,
32:22
Speaker 1: what are they gonna What is this country going to
32:23
Speaker 1: look like in five years? Hell in five months for
32:27
Speaker 1: that matter. And imagine another four years of this type
32:30
Speaker 1: of abuse of power by Joe Biden and the Biden
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Speaker 1: crime family and the Biden DOJ, the Biden FBI, the
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Speaker 1: Biden CIA, the Biden White House staff. If they can
32:43
Speaker 1: get away with us, then what does it look like
32:45
Speaker 1: for another four years, especially when none of them are
32:48
Speaker 1: then worried about that most important thing, right job security.
32:52
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32:55
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