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Syleena Johnson, Dr. Lynn Richardson, Cheryl Cobb & Dorien Wilson · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: My next guest is a Grammy nominated artists, songwriter, author,
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Speaker 1: talk show host, and fitness competitor. The last time she
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Speaker 1: was on the show, we discussed her new book, The
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Speaker 1: Weight is over Weight being spelled w E I g
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Speaker 1: h T is a compelling and triumphant journey towards self
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Speaker 1: love and discovery, and she tells us about her battles
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Speaker 1: with body image that started adolescents and carried throughout her
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Speaker 1: music career. Well, she is now a fitness competitor, talk
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Speaker 1: show co host, and he has and she has a
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Speaker 1: new single, Well You're gonna We're gonna talk about the
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Speaker 1: very top of this interview called Woman. Please welcome back
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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation, my girl, Selena Johnson. I'm doing
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Speaker 1: fantastic and thank you for taking the time to come
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Speaker 1: on the show to provide new content for people who
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Speaker 1: are stuck at home or just listening and just really
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Speaker 1: providing inspiration because you are an inspiration, Selena. Now just
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Speaker 1: talk about the video. Just how prepared for my shows, Lena,
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Speaker 1: I always like within the twenty four hour period to
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Speaker 1: the interview, always start gathering all my information so everything
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Speaker 1: is really fresh. So the music video Woman, which I've
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Speaker 1: seen three times now because the lyrics, I kept hearing
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Speaker 1: the lyrics about what a woman would do and what
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Speaker 1: a man gets away with, you know, a woman giving
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Speaker 1: a good advice and a man a lot. You know
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Speaker 1: so so I said, so so being a man that
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Speaker 1: was raised by one with six sis. Just my father
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Speaker 1: stayed in my life, but I had six sisters who
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Speaker 1: are impacted my life. The importance of I'm looking at
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Speaker 1: this video. You start out the front top of the
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Speaker 1: video or just with this black outfit on and then
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Speaker 1: you're walking down it's kind of gangster style, but it's
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Speaker 1: but it's motivated because it's empowering talk about the the
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Speaker 1: idea of this this video, the concept, because it's definitely
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Speaker 1: a wart up. First of all, it's it's two things.
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Speaker 1: It's a much watch video and it's a much listened
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Speaker 1: to video because the lyrics tell an amazing story about
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Speaker 1: overcoming the art. But the video is pro today. Tell
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Speaker 1: us about it, Selenda johsph Well, the video was next
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Speaker 1: to Look, um, everything is very symbolic. It's not that
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Speaker 1: it's not little so like when you think of the lyrics,
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Speaker 1: uh tell lies like a man not necessarily, Um, Men
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Speaker 1: all men lives, you know, because they don't from what
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Speaker 1: but what it does, what it is significant to is
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Speaker 1: our nation and how we have a president that live,
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Speaker 1: you know, and how there are so many male leader,
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Speaker 1: male leading politicians and men in legislation, you know, because
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Speaker 1: men actually kind of run the world. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. They're they're the most in power. They just
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Speaker 1: paid the most for the same jobs that women do.
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Speaker 1: And they lie, you know what I'm saying. They like
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Speaker 1: to keep those positions. A lot of times men have
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Speaker 1: their lives to stay in power, you know. I mean,
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Speaker 1: so how lies like a man is anonymous to that concept? Um? Uh,
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Speaker 1: sacrifice like a woman. We always sacrifice, were always sacrificing
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Speaker 1: our drings and goes because of children. So that's that's
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Speaker 1: the running story, you know what I'm saying. And so
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Speaker 1: the militant um look is comes from the Black Panthers
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Speaker 1: because in the Black Panther movement, um, they were trying
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Speaker 1: to you find their strength in their their colors, you know,
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Speaker 1: which is we're not really literally the color black, but
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Speaker 1: that's the name of our races, you know, that was
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Speaker 1: the name of our race black. She's like white people
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Speaker 1: are not literally white, but we were given the name
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Speaker 1: of black because of course that that if you think
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Speaker 1: of the what's traditionary terms, it means void um of
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Speaker 1: no color of no. Well we're the total opposite of that.
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Speaker 1: Actually it's confidentary because these kind a lot to call
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Speaker 1: us code that's actually weird. But it was the Black
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Speaker 1: sensors era, was them taking charge of that name and
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Speaker 1: making it something strong, you know, so us taking it,
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Speaker 1: you know, so for the woman we took a hold
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Speaker 1: of the look of that was to take a hold
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Speaker 1: of what we're being, um stereotyped as and trying to
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Speaker 1: take and and and coming together you know, women coming
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Speaker 1: together organizing to be I'll tell you something, Ms Johnson, Um,
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Speaker 1: I was not offended by the lyrics just being honest
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Speaker 1: because I'm a man and I know how I have
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Speaker 1: to I have to bluff my way through deals. I've
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Speaker 1: had to be a person that some people thought I
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Speaker 1: was that I knew I wasn't, but that didn't tell
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Speaker 1: me I should stop seeing the opportunity. What you're talking
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Speaker 1: about is dad Sometimes, you know, I want to just
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Speaker 1: come out right. Sometimes women have a higher standard than
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Speaker 1: men in business and they shouldn't because of the fact
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Speaker 1: that men will do what it takes to close the deal.
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Speaker 1: And that is there, that's a clear understanding. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's where the term poker face came from. Being able
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Speaker 1: to look at somebody. Men they're encouraged to do that
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Speaker 1: to do so women are normally penalized for being all
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Speaker 1: then we're called or or or what is what is
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Speaker 1: views at strengths you know with man lines or when
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Speaker 1: a man closes a deal or you know, just like
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Speaker 1: the story of Madam C. J. Walker, she had to
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Speaker 1: go through sacrificing her made her husband just completely just
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Speaker 1: lost control and just kind of went the whole of
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Speaker 1: the directions simply because she was so determined and so
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Speaker 1: focused and so strong instead of being her help me
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Speaker 1: like the Bible says, you know, and because women are viewed,
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Speaker 1: especially during that time, they had guessed that they had
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Speaker 1: just been allowed to vote, So to tom being a
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Speaker 1: predicament where where a woman is constantly focused and driven
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Speaker 1: and trying to accomplish a goal, that's uncomfortable for men,
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Speaker 1: especially if especially if they're they're also trying to get
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Speaker 1: to that same thing and they're not getting there quick enough.
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Speaker 1: So that's why I loved the story of Madame C. J.
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Speaker 1: Walker because even when she got on that stage and
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Speaker 1: um crossed over book or tee officer and he took
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Speaker 1: her in the back, he said, men need to do
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Speaker 1: it first. And unfortunately, that is a real mentality that
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Speaker 1: still isn't the five today, which is why a lot
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Speaker 1: of women, why it's so hard for women to get ahead,
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Speaker 1: which is why we don't get paid as much as men.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's no reason why we should not be
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Speaker 1: all getting paid the same for the same work. There's
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Speaker 1: no reason for it, and there's no excute for it.
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Speaker 1: But it's still going, it's still happening today. It really is.
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Speaker 1: And I, like I said, that's why I wanted to
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Speaker 1: start the interview with the music video woman that I'm
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Speaker 1: talking to a Grammy nominated artists UH talk show co
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Speaker 1: host Selenda Johnson straight out of Chicago, that there was
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Speaker 1: another lyric that really was piqued my interroewers got to
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Speaker 1: think like a woman, take advantage like a man. And
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Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. You we started out with
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Speaker 1: they gotta think like a woman, but a lot like
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Speaker 1: a man that came across that may come across like
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Speaker 1: men just live like we're just trying to put men down.
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Speaker 1: We're just talking about business. We're talking about how do
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Speaker 1: you negotiate, how you how you maneuver or navigate the relationship.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people call that negotiations. Okay, we'll see
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Speaker 1: I say things like a woman because you know, there's
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Speaker 1: a book and no shade to the body. But I
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Speaker 1: don't agree with the title of his book. Thinks like
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Speaker 1: a man, act like a lady. That's the very myth
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Speaker 1: that that that is the very concept that perpetuates um
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Speaker 1: this entire mentality. Now I understand where he's coming, but
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Speaker 1: it's still perpelled that title perpetuates what it is acting
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Speaker 1: like exactly. Somebody gives me the actual, uh, the actual
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Speaker 1: directions of acting like that. Okay, so that already is
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Speaker 1: a post. Think like a woman in most times in households,
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Speaker 1: in most times, and I won't say all, the woman
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Speaker 1: is the one doing the most thinking. All the man
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Speaker 1: has to do is go out, get get a job,
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Speaker 1: bring the money. That and the woman did eat it up.
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Speaker 1: She's inside figuring out all the little things. How the
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Speaker 1: woman's how whole, what kind of what kind of foods
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Speaker 1: the kids should go to? What are their meals? What's
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Speaker 1: gonna what is everybody going to eat? Not only that,
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Speaker 1: the inside of the house, outside of the house, honey,
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Speaker 1: don't forget to call the garden. You don't forget to
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Speaker 1: do this. So we get she's the one doing all
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Speaker 1: the things, and she's the one telling him how to
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Speaker 1: navigate on every other thing. Now, of course, when he
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Speaker 1: gets into business he has to be very independent, and
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Speaker 1: as far as that's concerned, when he gets into his
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Speaker 1: job life, but as far as everything else, he has
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Speaker 1: to come home and have a discussion what's sorry about
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Speaker 1: which jobs to have? He has to come home like
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Speaker 1: when you're married, it's a whole thing. And the woman
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Speaker 1: does a lot of the things that also when a
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Speaker 1: woman says, he also said with a piece of emotion
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Speaker 1: that men should because their emotion is in business. I
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Speaker 1: get it twisted. Emotion is in business. It's just how
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Speaker 1: that emotion is allocated and distribute. You can't be overly emotional,
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Speaker 1: but there has to be some type of passionate connection
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Speaker 1: because the things that you're that you're trying to sail
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Speaker 1: by or expand when it comes to business, it's just
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Speaker 1: it's it's just the way, it's just the way it is.
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Speaker 1: Emotional is not all I'm crying in a meeting. That's
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Speaker 1: not an emotional is about. But she's it's let's say
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Speaker 1: you're you're you're a cult representative, but and you really
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Speaker 1: like the way the way that cold takes. Not just um,
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Speaker 1: you're just selling a product, surely emotionally attached to the
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Speaker 1: way that it takes or the way that it makes
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Speaker 1: you feel. So now you're able to tell it even
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Speaker 1: better because now there's an emotional attachment. Attachment, there's an
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Speaker 1: emotional attachment, there's a passion that is behind it that
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Speaker 1: allows you to keep driving. Just like Madam c. J.
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Speaker 1: Walker Again, I like to go to her story. She
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Speaker 1: really was a father. She was she really was a
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Speaker 1: clone as her own father. She's like just stuff work,
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Speaker 1: So she's able to really push this father because of
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Speaker 1: the amstal attachment and the passiveness she's out behind it.
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Speaker 1: So um, I feel like a men men too in business,
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Speaker 1: and nowadays we're learning more on how to balance our
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Speaker 1: emotions and our business mindset. Some of us are more emotional,
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Speaker 1: which makes it less productive. But then we have men
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Speaker 1: out there that are emotional and you don't get criticized
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Speaker 1: for that. Don't get criticized for that, which is really key.
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Speaker 1: And we will yet. And I'm talking to Selenda Johnson.
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Speaker 1: A new album empowers and calls all women to stand
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Speaker 1: up for themselves and to be bold, brave and fearless.
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Speaker 1: You know, when I say those things, let's let's dig
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Speaker 1: a little deeper in that comment being bold, because you know,
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Speaker 1: when women are perceived to aggressive, to be word of
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Speaker 1: pop out, okay, and that's that's a negative which which
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Speaker 1: diminishes their intelligence, which the men can diminish their ability
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Speaker 1: to negotiate, which can diminish their ability ability to lead.
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Speaker 1: Because the perception that women should be in their place,
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Speaker 1: women should do certain things. Women shouldn't fight in the military.
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Speaker 1: Women should lead corporations. You know, we talked about in
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Speaker 1: eighteen six and four when Martin Luther King delivered that
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Speaker 1: I have a dream speech. But remember this, that's not
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Speaker 1: that far away. And women are just not fighting for
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Speaker 1: their rights to be able to speak and be recognized,
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Speaker 1: and it's still a big deal when they lead a
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Speaker 1: major corporation, Like, Okay, you know the thing about me
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Speaker 1: that bothers me is that Why is it that we
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Speaker 1: think I'm talking about in society in general, women are
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Speaker 1: physically adored but mentally challenged. Yep, And that's what we
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Speaker 1: were born with, less of a brain. And let's go
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Speaker 1: back to the sixties, the nineteen three but equal pay
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Speaker 1: acts paths. So why we're still not getting the same
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Speaker 1: equal pay right, right, So that's an issue. More and
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Speaker 1: more women are having to be in your moms, More
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Speaker 1: and more women are having to lead corporations. More and
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Speaker 1: more women are becoming unsupremours because of the lack of fathershood.
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Speaker 1: And not by fourth I mean not by not by
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Speaker 1: um they're not being fathers. Not all men are not
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Speaker 1: lacking father father their father duties because of their personality.
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Speaker 1: A lot of our men are being taken by the system.
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Speaker 1: A lot of our men, of them are you know,
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Speaker 1: um uh, there's other things that are takes that are
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Speaker 1: taking them away from their household, from the household and
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Speaker 1: creating families. So a lot of women are single moms, okay,
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Speaker 1: and so now they are less to be mom and dead.
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Speaker 1: So if that's the case, imagine she goes on to
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Speaker 1: the workplace to do a job that a man who
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Speaker 1: is supposed to be, you know, if you want to
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Speaker 1: be you know, theoretically quote unquote a man is supposed
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Speaker 1: to do theoretically because I don't believe in that anymore.
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Speaker 1: Either that the man has to go out and either
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Speaker 1: you know, men can men can be the homemakers as well.
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Speaker 1: I know many more are excellent. Father We hold it
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Speaker 1: down and that is a job within itself. And let
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Speaker 1: me tell you a job that is at times harder
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Speaker 1: than going out and once in the mind to side. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: empowering women period, especially women of color is important because
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Speaker 1: there's a tier level to what we see in life.
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Speaker 1: You know, we have color restrictions of color discrimination. So
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Speaker 1: you're already knocked down there, then you get into the
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Speaker 1: male and the female agenda, You're already gonna get knocked
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Speaker 1: down there because women have got to fight that they're
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Speaker 1: equal for equal pay, equal physicality. I can do the
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Speaker 1: same job you can do. Yes, there are some things
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Speaker 1: that there are some boxes I can pick up there
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Speaker 1: the woman can't pick up. But there's also some equipment
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Speaker 1: that you can buy that can make or pick up
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Speaker 1: and we'll be equal. Okay, so let's understand that the
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Speaker 1: parameters are making things equal are available today. Now. The
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Speaker 1: thing about her is that when I when I first
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Speaker 1: brought on the show, it was about her new book,
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Speaker 1: The Wait is over Weight in w E I G
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Speaker 1: H T. I mean, there's an issue that a lot
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Speaker 1: of women today deal with body image. What's what's what's acceptable?
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Speaker 1: What's what? How should I look when I woke up
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Speaker 1: in the morning. Should I be jumping on the scale
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Speaker 1: on the daily basis? Should I be worried about how
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Speaker 1: my clothes fit me? Should I be what's my wardrobe? What?
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Speaker 1: What what men like me? If I'm a side swell
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Speaker 1: versus a size six with men like me, If I'm
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Speaker 1: wearing charge Kurts or pants with men like me, if
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Speaker 1: I if I if I am light skinning the dark
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Speaker 1: skinning my hair straight up, my hair is curly. That's
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Speaker 1: what images that we play out every day in our community,
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Speaker 1: whether you white, black, Latino, but more importantly we're talking
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Speaker 1: about black right now because of the fact that I
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Speaker 1: lived that every day, I've lived it all my life.
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Speaker 1: To Lenda Johnson has lived that all the life. She
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Speaker 1: writes about it in her book. She's very athletic. When
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Speaker 1: she was growing up, she was a little bit, as
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Speaker 1: she says, big for her size, so people treated are different.
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Speaker 1: And because she wore a certain type of clothes he was,
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Speaker 1: she was reprimanded for that because people thought she was
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Speaker 1: trying to be too much more than her age should
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Speaker 1: allow her to be. So let's talk about that part
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Speaker 1: of how your your body image affected you as an
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Speaker 1: adolescents all the way through your music career as well
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Speaker 1: as today where you're now a fitness competitor. I am
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Speaker 1: five ten, so already five ten is the height of
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Speaker 1: most the average man. And you know, and you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, five pen maybe been five ten and
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Speaker 1: six two is an average man. So you're already coming in,
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Speaker 1: you already challenging my space right now, you're challenge in
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Speaker 1: my space right now, having I'm already, but i'd like
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Speaker 1: to tex let's the text feeding over. I'm a po
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Speaker 1: okay so mostly and that that short man complix so
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Speaker 1: men do not care. Right, here's the thing that I
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Speaker 1: want to say about body image, and you know, women
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Speaker 1: with the whole um, the whole philosophy of if I'm
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Speaker 1: besides too, I can't get a meant if I'm as
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Speaker 1: fear of, I can't get in. You know that whole thing.
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Speaker 1: I think that that has now become a woman woman problem.
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Speaker 1: That is not now yet man my men, they have
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Speaker 1: started it back in the day, but I think that
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Speaker 1: women have taken it on to become a bigger problem.
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Speaker 1: I think that women don't know what a man wants anymore,
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Speaker 1: and I think they're guessing because and this is my opinion,
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Speaker 1: and you tell me correct me if I'm off. I
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Speaker 1: don't think that men are running around on a day
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Speaker 1: to day basis looking for a certain look in certain side.
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Speaker 1: I don't think all men are doing that. I think
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Speaker 1: most of the time men the woman that believes in them.
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Speaker 1: I think that's the number one thing for a man.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe in me, Can I depend on you? Yes,
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Speaker 1: Men are visually attracted of course there you know, that's
20:01
Speaker 1: just the type of being they are, so you have
20:03
Speaker 1: to be usually attractive to them. But that's women too.
20:06
Speaker 1: You have these digitally attractive to me as well, not
20:09
Speaker 1: as much as a man, because we like power, we
20:11
Speaker 1: like flags. So you don't have to be the finest
20:14
Speaker 1: man on the street. But if you're successful and you're
20:17
Speaker 1: a fighter, and you look like you can take care
20:20
Speaker 1: of your family and all of that, and you're dependable
20:22
Speaker 1: and loyal, we like those concepts. I think that women
20:25
Speaker 1: have driven themselves in saying by the type of behind
20:30
Speaker 1: the the imagery that has been put out there by
20:32
Speaker 1: society and puts in media. That is what has driven
20:36
Speaker 1: the the the ideology of that we have to be
20:40
Speaker 1: this certain size and certain way to get a man.
20:43
Speaker 1: I have beautiful friends who have amazing bodies, who are
20:47
Speaker 1: smart and capable for a single let me say that again,
20:52
Speaker 1: tons of them, or I'm talking about models, model like
20:56
Speaker 1: or single and and most of the reasons for that
20:59
Speaker 1: is because they're independent. And some of some men out here,
21:04
Speaker 1: um are they shy away some independence because that independence
21:08
Speaker 1: is normally passive to this the process of I don't
21:13
Speaker 1: leave no man or no man wants to be with
21:15
Speaker 1: a woman that feels that he doesn't need but he's
21:17
Speaker 1: not needed by her. And and that's just the truth.
21:21
Speaker 1: Speak to you. That's why I laughed. That's where I laughed.
21:24
Speaker 1: It's part of it's part of his man who still leading.
21:28
Speaker 1: He wants to know that I am successful in taking
21:31
Speaker 1: care if I have the goods to take care of women.
21:33
Speaker 1: I want to know that I can take care of
21:34
Speaker 1: her unless she's a free cysset of it, and that
21:36
Speaker 1: she can take care of me in the terms. And
21:39
Speaker 1: a lot of women are not submissive enough. Um. And
21:42
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they have to be walking around their
21:44
Speaker 1: head jail down, but they have to be able to
21:46
Speaker 1: submit in a way to their man that um that
21:50
Speaker 1: lends to a face for them to work together. Meaning
21:54
Speaker 1: if a woman is in a is in a situation
21:56
Speaker 1: where a man is leading, let me leave and don't
21:59
Speaker 1: try to step in all the time. You know what
22:01
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So some women are not. Some independent women
22:05
Speaker 1: have the era of I have been doing it so long,
22:08
Speaker 1: I don't need you to come in and help me.
22:09
Speaker 1: So now they're used to doing it so long as
22:11
Speaker 1: by themselves that it's harder for them to let down
22:14
Speaker 1: their guards, to have to allow a man to come
22:16
Speaker 1: in and love on them and take over, because it's
22:19
Speaker 1: not it's not about their side and look anymore. It's
22:23
Speaker 1: more more about attitude. Let me let me comment on that, because,
22:26
Speaker 1: first of all, I agree with everything you're saying. Okay.
22:30
Speaker 1: Is the reason I say that because of the fact
22:32
Speaker 1: that the problem starts in the very beginning. It's called communication.
22:36
Speaker 1: Make sure that person is looking at you because you
22:39
Speaker 1: look good to them, It's gonna communicate with you the
22:43
Speaker 1: way you want to be communicated with. Okay. Now, if
22:46
Speaker 1: you start your relationship and it's physical, I swear to you,
22:50
Speaker 1: it's gonna end bad or it's not gonna end the
22:52
Speaker 1: way you wanted to end of a relationship that is
22:56
Speaker 1: physical in the beginning, you've lost. You've lost the whole.
23:00
Speaker 1: What I want to do with my life, what I'm
23:02
Speaker 1: looking for in a man long term, what I why.
23:05
Speaker 1: I think all that has been thrown away. So so
23:08
Speaker 1: if you if you drive your relationships and tied to sex,
23:12
Speaker 1: got a problem. Now with that being said, I always
23:17
Speaker 1: tell people that you know I'm attracted to women who
23:22
Speaker 1: tell me they have goals, tell me they have dreams,
23:25
Speaker 1: that that are thinkers I really have. If you, if you,
23:28
Speaker 1: if you, if you can compete with me mentally, then
23:32
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited that just rue Sean McDonald talking, because
23:35
Speaker 1: I always like that. I always like to wake up
23:37
Speaker 1: and have a different conversation. And like I told tell people,
23:39
Speaker 1: I always like to learn some things. I like to
23:41
Speaker 1: learn some things from my partner. I like to be
23:43
Speaker 1: challenged by my partner and information. And that's all you're
23:46
Speaker 1: saying right now, That's all you're saying. But also as
23:49
Speaker 1: a man, I have to feel a physical role in
23:52
Speaker 1: the relationship. And you know that means that if it's dark,
23:56
Speaker 1: I go and answer the door, I hear noise, I
23:59
Speaker 1: get up and listen to no I can't tell my wife, hey, babe,
24:02
Speaker 1: is as why don't you go look on and look
24:04
Speaker 1: at it and find out what's going on? Now we've
24:07
Speaker 1: already changed, the rules have been changed. You know, there
24:11
Speaker 1: are certain things from a from a physical from a
24:13
Speaker 1: from a physical characteristics, you have to maintain security. But
24:18
Speaker 1: from a standpoint of women, listen to me and listen
24:21
Speaker 1: to Selena all we're saying is this. You have to
24:26
Speaker 1: have standards. You have to say, Look, it's not about
24:29
Speaker 1: the image all the time, it's about what I want.
24:32
Speaker 1: If a man does not, in that openest statement, deliver
24:36
Speaker 1: information to you that you want to hear about you
24:41
Speaker 1: other than your looks, you're gonna have a problem. You're
24:44
Speaker 1: going to have a problem. I swear that you're gonna
24:46
Speaker 1: have a problem. And it's not gonna end good. That's
24:48
Speaker 1: all you're saying. And that's all you said, send in
24:51
Speaker 1: your book the way it's over. Look, I've been having
24:54
Speaker 1: body image problems since I was at Listens and they've
24:57
Speaker 1: carried all throughout music career. Then I realized it's bigger
25:00
Speaker 1: in that it ain't so much about the image. It's
25:02
Speaker 1: about how we think and how we allow people to
25:05
Speaker 1: bring that bad thoughts into our lives. They're bad standards
25:09
Speaker 1: into our lives, and we don't challenge them as women.
25:15
Speaker 1: That's all you're saying. Yeah, I said, it's all in
25:17
Speaker 1: the mind. Start's all in the mind. And when you
25:19
Speaker 1: change the thing, can you change your whole life. Let's
25:22
Speaker 1: talk about this fitness competition of this brand. You know,
25:26
Speaker 1: I always knew you had the fitness line, the finness
25:28
Speaker 1: concept of Finnish branding. But what what what got you
25:31
Speaker 1: into the competitive state of fitness. I've always wanted to compete.
25:39
Speaker 1: It wasn't until um I turned you know, reported too,
25:44
Speaker 1: and I just said, you know, how long are you
25:47
Speaker 1: going to put this off? How long are you gonna
25:49
Speaker 1: set this aside? How long are you going to keep
25:52
Speaker 1: um uh, convincing yourself that you can't do it? And
25:56
Speaker 1: the truth is, it's a birding sensation. It's something that
25:59
Speaker 1: you been wanting to do. I've been wanting to do
26:02
Speaker 1: it since I was twenty years old, and I just
26:06
Speaker 1: never thought I had the time. I never thought I
26:08
Speaker 1: had the discipline. And I wanted to see if if
26:11
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26:14
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26:17
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26:21
Speaker 1: lot of stuff in my life, even if certain things
26:24
Speaker 1: I can't control, but I accomplished my goals, like little
26:27
Speaker 1: goals here and then because I tried. You know, it's
26:31
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26:35
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26:38
Speaker 1: don't like failure. But I can't be afraid to sail
26:42
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna cause but I've already been failure once.
26:45
Speaker 1: I tried. So just so happy that when I tried,
26:49
Speaker 1: you know, I I usually make it, and so this
26:52
Speaker 1: time I tried. It took me, you know a long time,
26:55
Speaker 1: because I wanted the injuries and things of that nation.
26:57
Speaker 1: Of course, the devil doesn't want you to get the
26:58
Speaker 1: way you need to go. But you you have when
27:01
Speaker 1: you recognize that, that's what time it is that the
27:03
Speaker 1: enemy is always you know, he's seeking to devour at
27:06
Speaker 1: all at all at all areas. Then you can you
27:10
Speaker 1: can play, you can play fall a certain points. So
27:13
Speaker 1: I just said, you know what, I'm gonna get it.
27:15
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a professional all the tools I needed.
27:19
Speaker 1: It was very difficult and costly, but it was it
27:23
Speaker 1: was rewarding. My life has changed forever. I am now
27:26
Speaker 1: a fitness competitor. I'm training for my next competition. Obviously
27:30
Speaker 1: it was pushed because it is silv the um you
27:34
Speaker 1: know two pandemic. Yeah, but um the new day is
27:39
Speaker 1: obvious twenty nine. But that's he had it. Why have
27:41
Speaker 1: more times to profess the body that I want? So
27:44
Speaker 1: I just have to keep working, keep art, and it's
27:46
Speaker 1: always fun because I already love fitness. I'm already into it.
27:50
Speaker 1: There's something that I do every day, do anyway, and
27:52
Speaker 1: it it fulfills that competitive is that already lives in me,
27:56
Speaker 1: and I'm not able to fulfill on a day to
27:58
Speaker 1: day basis. And you don't compete again others. You're competing
28:01
Speaker 1: against yourself, which is super fun and in the deal
28:04
Speaker 1: character and teaches you so much about yourself. And you know,
28:07
Speaker 1: I I really being that. You're a former athlete, basketball star,
28:11
Speaker 1: tennant star from high school. And I always tell people
28:14
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to look in your past to plan
28:17
Speaker 1: your greatness, and being a young athlete. You just replicating
28:21
Speaker 1: that as a fitness competitor now. And so you're not
28:25
Speaker 1: You're not doing anything that was strange. You just heard.
28:28
Speaker 1: You just finally committed to the voice that you always
28:31
Speaker 1: was hearing in your head. Do it, dude. I don't
28:34
Speaker 1: have time. I'm too busy, I'm dating man, I'm moving
28:39
Speaker 1: to another city. I'm on the road. But that voice
28:42
Speaker 1: always said, You've always been an athlete. You always just
28:45
Speaker 1: always drove you. And I think it's important that you
28:48
Speaker 1: remind people. This is part of your story, so people
28:51
Speaker 1: won't think it's a fad of think it's something that
28:53
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28:56
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28:58
Speaker 1: anything you want. It's not about get list. It's not
29:00
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29:04
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29:09
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29:15
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29:19
Speaker 1: do something or it's because I'm a I'm a singer.
29:22
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29:26
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29:31
Speaker 1: three things and be glad at all of them. Love it.
29:35
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29:38
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29:41
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29:43
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29:46
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29:49
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29:52
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for seawan. Mr McDonald's for everything
33:31
Speaker 1: you're doing. You know the title of your show is
33:34
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33:38
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33:41
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33:43
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33:46
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34:03
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34:05
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34:08
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34:10
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34:13
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34:17
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34:21
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34:25
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34:29
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34:32
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34:36
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34:38
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34:40
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34:43
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34:47
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34:51
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34:55
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34:58
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35:00
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35:03
Speaker 1: And so whether that conversation be about improving your own life,
35:07
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35:11
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35:15
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35:28
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35:32
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35:39
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35:41
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35:45
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35:48
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35:52
Speaker 1: have one of the most significant UH movements happening right now.
35:58
Speaker 1: We have so many UH working family, single moms with
36:02
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36:05
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36:09
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36:13
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36:15
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36:30
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36:32
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36:35
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36:37
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36:40
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36:43
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36:55
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36:57
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37:00
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37:03
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37:07
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37:09
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37:13
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37:17
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37:20
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37:23
Speaker 1: When people see the stock market go down, there's a
37:26
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37:31
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37:35
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37:39
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37:42
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37:50
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37:54
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37:56
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38:00
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38:03
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38:06
Speaker 1: not planners, were not dreamers do We not go oriented people.
38:11
Speaker 1: And that really disturbs me. And that's why I always
38:14
Speaker 1: enjoy bringing you on my show, because you are planning.
38:16
Speaker 1: Like you said, Look, Roshan, you know you can. You
38:19
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38:22
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38:25
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38:28
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38:31
Speaker 1: You know he kept telling the children of Israel, listen,
38:34
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38:37
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38:40
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38:42
Speaker 1: to harm you, plans to give you hope in the future.
38:45
Speaker 1: That was at a time when everything seemed like it
38:48
Speaker 1: was gone, all the riches were gone. People had to stop,
38:51
Speaker 1: they had to rebuild. We are in that time now
38:54
Speaker 1: and and Rishan. You know when I released the book,
38:57
Speaker 1: you were one of my first stops. I have been
38:59
Speaker 1: telling to fupled to get a home based business. I
39:02
Speaker 1: have been saying it for twelve years. I feel like
39:04
Speaker 1: I just want to run outside and screen, but I
39:06
Speaker 1: can't go nowhere. So yeah, hey they over there, don't
39:14
Speaker 1: don't look at don't even I told people, don't even
39:16
Speaker 1: blow me a kids. Okay, right over there, bove me
39:19
Speaker 1: a kids. But this is the time. See here's what
39:23
Speaker 1: people also need to understand. What sean The world will
39:26
Speaker 1: never go back to the way it was because now
39:29
Speaker 1: corporation and the in in the world, the universe understands
39:33
Speaker 1: that we can continue to move without people moving. Do
39:37
Speaker 1: you hear me? Without people moving? So do you think
39:41
Speaker 1: people are going to Everybody's just gonna go back and
39:44
Speaker 1: get their jobs. You're gonna go back to the hustle
39:46
Speaker 1: and buffalo. I have to be honest. I was feeling
39:48
Speaker 1: a little strange because it seems are moving, emails flying,
39:53
Speaker 1: nobody sits down. Now everybody has to sit down. So
39:56
Speaker 1: now is the time to establish a home based business,
39:59
Speaker 1: not only so you can get more money, but when
40:02
Speaker 1: you have a home based business, it's the only way
40:04
Speaker 1: to get your money back. You have four hundred seventy
40:07
Speaker 1: five packs productions. So this is to me, this is
40:11
Speaker 1: a blessing. And I say, God does not promote powders.
40:15
Speaker 1: God don't promote powders. So the situation that you're in now,
40:19
Speaker 1: you might as well smile because you can't change it, absolutely,
40:22
Speaker 1: change absolutely you know the things. You know. The thing
40:25
Speaker 1: about it that when you're talking land that I always
40:28
Speaker 1: hone in on this, the consistency of your tone. But
40:31
Speaker 1: more importantly, let's let's get personal by Rashan. When the
40:34
Speaker 1: crisis hid, you know I didn't. I was confused. You know,
40:38
Speaker 1: how do I how do I deal with my employees?
40:40
Speaker 1: Will they be effective working from home? You know, because
40:44
Speaker 1: I can't monitor anymore. You know they come in at eight.
40:47
Speaker 1: I know they don't walk through the door eight. I
40:49
Speaker 1: know they are the eight when they come when they
40:51
Speaker 1: when they at five, I know when they leave it five.
40:54
Speaker 1: I got all that, But what are they doing between
40:56
Speaker 1: eight and five? Because I can't see him anymore. Well,
40:58
Speaker 1: I have zoom, I do zoom meetings in the morning.
41:01
Speaker 1: I have deadlines that got if you met through email
41:03
Speaker 1: communication and have a zoom meeting in the afternoon. That way,
41:07
Speaker 1: I have a working relationship with my staff. So, like
41:10
Speaker 1: you said, things are gonna change for the good and
41:13
Speaker 1: the bad. The bad means that you have to make
41:15
Speaker 1: the adjustment, meaning you to employ you, or you to
41:17
Speaker 1: employ you or the supervisor. But the good is that
41:20
Speaker 1: you can continue to get effective work responsibilities out of
41:23
Speaker 1: your employee employer employees that you have on a daily
41:26
Speaker 1: basis if you have a plan. And this is all
41:28
Speaker 1: about having the plan correctly. And yeah, this is all
41:31
Speaker 1: about having a planet. And what you just said is
41:34
Speaker 1: so key because you, like many entrepreneurs and executives and
41:39
Speaker 1: CEOs and people who have staff. I said to everyone,
41:42
Speaker 1: to all my colleagues that said, listen, this is the
41:45
Speaker 1: time to go in deep. This is the time to
41:47
Speaker 1: capture their attention. This is the time to really coach,
41:50
Speaker 1: to coach our team. And we have to inspect what
41:53
Speaker 1: we expect. You got to inspect what you expect. And
41:56
Speaker 1: there's no better way to do it with people. Because see,
41:59
Speaker 1: now we've have more productivity. There's no commuting. They don't
42:02
Speaker 1: have to get in the car, they don't have to rush,
42:04
Speaker 1: take a run and take a shall will jump in
42:06
Speaker 1: the car they get to you, they are settled there
42:08
Speaker 1: at home. So I love what you're doing, and I
42:11
Speaker 1: love the fact that you said you're building more better
42:14
Speaker 1: relationships with your staff because this when when we come
42:18
Speaker 1: out of this, there's gonna be a significant change. But
42:21
Speaker 1: the number one thing I'm saying is start a home
42:24
Speaker 1: based business. I have a home based business webinar. I'm
42:27
Speaker 1: doing it almost every day of the week because it's
42:29
Speaker 1: five easy steps. You don't have to file anything, you
42:32
Speaker 1: don't have to go anywhere, you don't have to go
42:34
Speaker 1: tell anybody. There's five basic steps to start a home
42:37
Speaker 1: based business, and anyone can have one within the first
42:41
Speaker 1: ten minutes of the webinar. And then the second thing
42:44
Speaker 1: is to live so significantly below your means. People are
42:48
Speaker 1: concerned about their monthly payments. And what I'm telling everybody
42:53
Speaker 1: is the first list all of your creditors, every last
42:55
Speaker 1: one of them, Netflix and everybody, every single person that
42:59
Speaker 1: you pay miss. The second column, list the amount that
43:02
Speaker 1: you owe. Now, third column list the total balance. Let's do,
43:06
Speaker 1: and then the fourth column the dody. Once you have
43:08
Speaker 1: all of that, go down the list, call each one
43:11
Speaker 1: of your creditor, asks what do they have in place
43:15
Speaker 1: in response to the lack of work and income due
43:18
Speaker 1: to the pandemic. If they have a three month extension
43:21
Speaker 1: of four month extension, take it. I'm telling everyone to
43:24
Speaker 1: take the extension, even if you can pay. And let
43:27
Speaker 1: me tell you why, because you need to stack your dollars.
43:31
Speaker 1: You need to put as much money to the side
43:33
Speaker 1: as you can because we don't know the long term
43:36
Speaker 1: effects of it. We don't know what's gonna happen now.
43:41
Speaker 1: And those stimulus checks, those similar checks are not enough
43:44
Speaker 1: to live on. Those stimulus checks are enough to buy
43:47
Speaker 1: lightsol hand white, uh, math and food. Get mad. I told,
43:59
Speaker 1: I said, lever, say you if you want to simulate me,
44:01
Speaker 1: I need a few more zeros on my check. Okay,
44:04
Speaker 1: that's what will simulate me. I need three more zeros
44:09
Speaker 1: and then I will be simulated. So we have to
44:12
Speaker 1: start thinking and we have to start planning now. Don't
44:16
Speaker 1: take advantage, don't get the three months extension, and then
44:19
Speaker 1: go shopping online because nobody can really deliver anything anyway.
44:23
Speaker 1: Be smart, and then Rashan, you're gonna love this. American
44:27
Speaker 1: Express bank, American Express Online. You can go online, google it.
44:32
Speaker 1: They have a savings account with the one point seven
44:34
Speaker 1: five percent interest rate. Oh wow, I am accepting all
44:37
Speaker 1: this god giving information that people have and I'm being
44:41
Speaker 1: blessed to receive it, and I want you to be
44:43
Speaker 1: received by it as well and be a person who
44:46
Speaker 1: takes it all in just like me. You know, I
44:48
Speaker 1: had to get on a start right there because a
44:50
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, they always see you, they
44:52
Speaker 1: see an evil to a tone. They see a different
44:54
Speaker 1: message than what I'm trying to deliver or what other
44:57
Speaker 1: people try to deliver. We try to reach out and help,
44:59
Speaker 1: and it really can fusing me because a lot of
45:00
Speaker 1: people spend more time blocking than receiving. Is that correct.
45:05
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this is a time to be open.
45:09
Speaker 1: This is the time to be open to change. No blockers,
45:12
Speaker 1: no naysayers, no haters, no crap lrel barrel pullers. You
45:17
Speaker 1: know that they're just out there. If anybody is holding
45:21
Speaker 1: you back, pushing you down, you need to kind of
45:23
Speaker 1: just push that to the side. Don't even give it
45:25
Speaker 1: any energy. Don't get angry, don't get upset. You know,
45:28
Speaker 1: I talked about the five f that will keep everybody
45:31
Speaker 1: broke Rashaan. The first F is feeling when feelings get involved,
45:35
Speaker 1: bad decisions followed. Uh, then you got Then you've got families,
45:39
Speaker 1: and you love your family, but sometimes you do things
45:41
Speaker 1: out of guilt that you're not supposed to do with
45:43
Speaker 1: your family. And then your friends, you're still hanging around
45:46
Speaker 1: the same friends that you played with when you were
45:48
Speaker 1: five years old and and and they're not moving in
45:51
Speaker 1: the same direction. Doesn't mean you're in the friendship. But
45:53
Speaker 1: if you have nine broke frands, you're gonna be number ten,
45:56
Speaker 1: so you need a new network. And then the next
45:59
Speaker 1: f is food. Uh, we're spending a third of our check.
46:02
Speaker 1: A lot of people are sending me their budgets and
46:04
Speaker 1: they're sending a third of their take on pain on
46:06
Speaker 1: food and the fact, so it's a problem there too.
46:10
Speaker 1: And then the final ethos fun. I say, when you
46:12
Speaker 1: are broke, if you're trying to rebuild, you shouldn't be
46:15
Speaker 1: having any fun. Now you should have keith, but fun
46:18
Speaker 1: if you're kicking it every weekend. And that's that. The
46:20
Speaker 1: other so when you talk about being blocked, many times
46:24
Speaker 1: people say the enemy, but it really is the inner meet.
46:27
Speaker 1: We need to unblock ourselves and open ourselves up to change.
46:32
Speaker 1: And the things that are going to really get us
46:34
Speaker 1: to the next level. Well, you know, it's really amazing
46:36
Speaker 1: when I'm looking through your notes, said, uh, they say
46:39
Speaker 1: they're always send me talking points and it's just six
46:42
Speaker 1: session called cut back because you've always talked about cut
46:45
Speaker 1: back on all your extras, like you mentioned earlier. You know,
46:47
Speaker 1: know your Netflix bills and know what you how you're
46:50
Speaker 1: spending the money in restaurants. I think the biggest thing
46:52
Speaker 1: is and it's hurting restaurants right now. But we're gonna
46:55
Speaker 1: get back to eating a lot at home now, that's
46:58
Speaker 1: right because of the fact that we have become such
47:01
Speaker 1: a I want to say, like a portable or mobile society.
47:04
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't have time to cook for ourselves.
47:06
Speaker 1: We don't have time to take care of ourselves. We
47:08
Speaker 1: don't have time to read the I don't know, I'm saying,
47:10
Speaker 1: going out and you're eating all the wrong food. But
47:12
Speaker 1: you're all eating the food you shouldn't be eating. Because
47:15
Speaker 1: I made me a smoothie yesterday. We all have the
47:19
Speaker 1: watermelon in there here, bananas in there, and the coconuts,
47:21
Speaker 1: ill mean, pineapples in there. You know I would have
47:24
Speaker 1: made a smoothie and the other circumstances that that smoothie
47:27
Speaker 1: was good. I just I froze all my fruit, so
47:29
Speaker 1: I didn't put so the ice was there. Put some
47:32
Speaker 1: put some O juice in there, and put some apple
47:34
Speaker 1: juice in there. It just changed the way I think
47:36
Speaker 1: and where I am dealing with my life. I'm making
47:38
Speaker 1: making their own breakfast. I'm not recommending this for everybody,
47:41
Speaker 1: but I'm just telling everybody that when you make your
47:44
Speaker 1: own food, you do spend less money. That's right, you
47:48
Speaker 1: spend less. We let me tell you. Yesterday was Sunday.
47:51
Speaker 1: I was so hungry. I wanted something that I knew
47:54
Speaker 1: was satisfied me. I ate a peanut butter and jelly. Girl,
48:00
Speaker 1: they're a girl that go. You stopped laying. You're about
48:03
Speaker 1: to get me into a Bloni sandwich. I am blogne
48:06
Speaker 1: the sandwich now fried baloney in road? At you in
48:12
Speaker 1: my road because I told the people, I said, I said,
48:15
Speaker 1: the pandemic diet is this Bolognian seas, not peanut butter
48:20
Speaker 1: and jelly, a grey old cheese. If you want to
48:22
Speaker 1: elevate it, experience and with all no films, A bowler
48:25
Speaker 1: cria girl, oa something I have me eating cheerios right
48:31
Speaker 1: raising brain because you know I'm a little older. I
48:33
Speaker 1: gotta have a little movement. You gotta have a little movement,
48:35
Speaker 1: gotta have my brain, gotta have my brand. Not so
48:38
Speaker 1: I girl, you this peanut butter. I'm so mad at
48:41
Speaker 1: you because you have beat me to the peanut butter
48:43
Speaker 1: and jelly sandwich. I have not had a peanut butter
48:45
Speaker 1: and jelly sandwich. I had had me a fried h
48:50
Speaker 1: Bologni sandwich, had that the Christie iceberg lettish, a big
48:56
Speaker 1: old yellow, bigger red tomatoes. Put me that man to
49:00
Speaker 1: me two slices of white bread. Let me tell you,
49:03
Speaker 1: yeah and let me and I'm gonna hit you up
49:05
Speaker 1: back to head with this one. My peanut butter and jelly.
49:08
Speaker 1: I had wonder bread. I had one dread. Yes, yes,
49:11
Speaker 1: yes I did. But that's family. That's family. It's amazing,
49:17
Speaker 1: you know, because I know my upgrade. I came from
49:20
Speaker 1: fifth Ward, which is an inner city, and my parents
49:23
Speaker 1: upgraded a little bit, moved to it like a bigger
49:25
Speaker 1: version of the inner city. You know, because I walked
49:28
Speaker 1: out the doors doors, same black people walking around that
49:31
Speaker 1: I looked at when I moved from So I didn't
49:34
Speaker 1: I didn't see the upgrade. But they said we were
49:36
Speaker 1: living better. And the thing about it is that you
49:39
Speaker 1: know sam croquettes, hot water, corn bread, peanut butter and jelly, sandwich, spam,
49:44
Speaker 1: you know, tuna, fish, sandwich, all that stuff that I
49:49
Speaker 1: walked away from. Said that I found it, and I'm happy.
49:54
Speaker 1: I'm happy. That's right. That's why I made a big
49:58
Speaker 1: I made a nice thing, Mobo tuna last night. Um
50:02
Speaker 1: to the And then, of course we have all this
50:04
Speaker 1: stuff to keep build up the immunet that's very important.
50:07
Speaker 1: So start a home based business. Spend less money, build
50:10
Speaker 1: your immune system daily. Breathe in some steam, breathing steam.
50:15
Speaker 1: Just boil a pot of water and you put some
50:17
Speaker 1: lemons or orange feel in it and breathe it in,
50:19
Speaker 1: hold your breath, and then that forces uh. Any virus
50:23
Speaker 1: that may have entered your now heel or your throat,
50:26
Speaker 1: it kills it because the heat. It can't stand the heat.
50:29
Speaker 1: So bring that in. Drink your warm liquids, your warm teeth,
50:32
Speaker 1: and then get busy. Wake up every day, get ready,
50:36
Speaker 1: go like you're going to work every single day. Go
50:38
Speaker 1: fit into your space in your in your apartment or
50:41
Speaker 1: your home or wherever it is and get busy. This
50:44
Speaker 1: is this is a season. We we got quad locals
50:47
Speaker 1: our our businesses this month. Awesome. Here's let's talk about
50:51
Speaker 1: thinking ahead, because it's really interesting. In my life, I
50:54
Speaker 1: always tell people, uh, nanny days is my minimum thought process,
50:58
Speaker 1: but are usually six months to a year in my
51:00
Speaker 1: landing all the time. And you know, this year starting
51:02
Speaker 1: to you know, like you said, you know, you start planning,
51:06
Speaker 1: you know, the the new year in the third fourth
51:09
Speaker 1: quarter of the previous year, you know, And a lot
51:11
Speaker 1: of people don't do that if it's twent in their team,
51:13
Speaker 1: that that fourth quarter when you playing, and you don't
51:17
Speaker 1: just get to January and started saying what the won't do?
51:19
Speaker 1: Or you have to plan your taxes, your finances, how
51:23
Speaker 1: you're gonna how much money you're gonna leave in the
51:25
Speaker 1: bank for the governor of the government overtaxs you or
51:28
Speaker 1: attacks you too much because you left too much money
51:30
Speaker 1: in your bank and you should have paid somebody out
51:32
Speaker 1: or paid an expense or played the employee and paid
51:35
Speaker 1: that bonuses and you let it roll over all those
51:38
Speaker 1: thought processes. But it's really amazing how when you think
51:41
Speaker 1: ahead you can prepare for so many things that you
51:46
Speaker 1: don't see. And that's called preparing for the for the unknown,
51:50
Speaker 1: and that's what proper planning is. And that's why I
51:53
Speaker 1: really like when you were talking about your apply for unemployer. Man,
51:56
Speaker 1: don't wait around if you're unemployed, go apply. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
52:02
Speaker 1: don't don't weigh around. This is the time and what
52:05
Speaker 1: you're what you're talking about right now for planning. We
52:08
Speaker 1: have to plan now for sixty to ninety days from now,
52:11
Speaker 1: not knowing what's going to happen. You know, people will
52:14
Speaker 1: get in an uploar because our the president said everybody
52:18
Speaker 1: will be back to normal. Boy Easter and folks who
52:21
Speaker 1: like Easter, I say, yes, he means easter because he
52:24
Speaker 1: cannot be talking about the one that about you're talking
52:28
Speaker 1: about one, but in we don't know what's gonna happen.
52:32
Speaker 1: So now is the time to plan for whatever until
52:36
Speaker 1: attempt to be ready. So so I love your advice.
52:38
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and this is just advice that I live.
52:41
Speaker 1: And that's what I try to do when I bring
52:42
Speaker 1: an individual on the show. What your skills saying, you're
52:45
Speaker 1: giving advice, Liver boy, advice. One thing I've never doubted
52:50
Speaker 1: when I've talked to you, land. Is that the advice
52:52
Speaker 1: that you're giving is like they said, over somebody's head,
52:55
Speaker 1: over over their abilities to achieve. Because you know what
52:58
Speaker 1: you said, apply for unemployment, Medicaid, food stamps, public assistance. Okay,
53:06
Speaker 1: let me tell you do what you have to do.
53:08
Speaker 1: When when this happened in two thousand and eight, that's
53:10
Speaker 1: exactly what I did. I had I had left my
53:13
Speaker 1: corporate position, I'd gone out, stepped out on faith. I
53:16
Speaker 1: had had this opportunity with Russell Simmons running one of
53:19
Speaker 1: his big programs in the economy crash. Our sponsors pulled out.
53:24
Speaker 1: I kept working. I kept I didn't care the sponsor
53:26
Speaker 1: pulled out. I kept working. And then I said, you
53:29
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna go down here and get some
53:31
Speaker 1: food stamps. I've put millions of dollars into the system.
53:34
Speaker 1: ID go get my nine hundred out a month food stamps.
53:37
Speaker 1: Because minimally, I knew that my family could eat, and
53:40
Speaker 1: as long as I had a roof over my head
53:42
Speaker 1: and we could eat and we had our utilities, then
53:46
Speaker 1: I was able to create. So I didn't care about
53:48
Speaker 1: shame and and understand. I went to the food stamp
53:51
Speaker 1: office and I was like the local celebrity in Chicago.
53:54
Speaker 1: I was the radio show host. Keeper knew me. I
53:56
Speaker 1: did not care. I walked right on in the food
53:58
Speaker 1: stamp office, said, of people got my food stamps, so
54:02
Speaker 1: we have to do whatever we have to do. No shame.
54:06
Speaker 1: Surround yourself with with people who are moving in the
54:09
Speaker 1: same direction. Grind. You know, I posted something else, and
54:13
Speaker 1: this is a sensitive matter to a degree, but I said,
54:17
Speaker 1: people have to read. You're gonna have to read. You know,
54:20
Speaker 1: we're helping people. And then the exact thing that in
54:24
Speaker 1: the message that's read in big and bold, you're responding
54:29
Speaker 1: back with an attitude saying, you know, you think somebody's
54:32
Speaker 1: trying to teach you, it's right here and read. You
54:35
Speaker 1: have to read. So if you can't read, now it's
54:38
Speaker 1: the time to learn how to read. So this is
54:40
Speaker 1: just an opportunity to hit the reset button for all
54:43
Speaker 1: of us, me included. It's really important to hear that.
54:46
Speaker 1: I remember when the interest rate was dropped. You know,
54:49
Speaker 1: I immediately called my friends. I said, look, please look
54:52
Speaker 1: at that interest rate. If you have a home mortgage,
54:55
Speaker 1: look at refinancing. You have to realize, like I said,
54:59
Speaker 1: their opportunity these out here. You know if you if
55:02
Speaker 1: you can get a credit line, get your credit line
55:04
Speaker 1: now because the interest you this is what you're talking
55:11
Speaker 1: about in planning. You can sit around and complain. But
55:14
Speaker 1: if you're if you're if your credit line scores high,
55:17
Speaker 1: take advantage of that. If you have an equity in
55:20
Speaker 1: your home, take advantage of that, get a low end
55:23
Speaker 1: credit line loan. You know that you can call on
55:26
Speaker 1: in the emergency, because, like I said, they said thirty days,
55:29
Speaker 1: they said April. You know the the the federal guidelines
55:33
Speaker 1: are going to be pushed to the end of April.
55:35
Speaker 1: We don't know that. You're just saying that. This is
55:40
Speaker 1: the same man came out and said, hey, Eastern the
55:43
Speaker 1: churches will be packed. Okay, he said this. So we
55:47
Speaker 1: cannot sit around saying, oh, that's that's going to be
55:50
Speaker 1: what we're going to do, because it's not true at all.
55:53
Speaker 1: So we have to become aggressive. We have to become
55:56
Speaker 1: the planners. And that is what you preach. That is
55:59
Speaker 1: what you teach on a regular braceist Lynn Richardson tell
56:02
Speaker 1: us again about that the webinar that you do on
56:04
Speaker 1: a daily basis, and also that incredible book that I Gotta,
56:08
Speaker 1: I Gotta, I gotta I gotta promote it again, especially
56:11
Speaker 1: during this period. So I need that banner for that book.
56:13
Speaker 1: And also I need to be able to drive people
56:16
Speaker 1: to your webinars. Okay, yes, and we're gonna get you
56:20
Speaker 1: a copy of the book. And you didn't know about
56:22
Speaker 1: it because I just created this Friday. I've been working
56:26
Speaker 1: on it and uh, someone reached out to me and
56:29
Speaker 1: and and there were really there were literally thousands of
56:32
Speaker 1: people that I realized we're in a situation with children
56:35
Speaker 1: at home, and they said, oh wait, you need to
56:37
Speaker 1: turn listen to a homemade business, get the kids involved.
56:39
Speaker 1: So I pulled together my resources, I got my team,
56:42
Speaker 1: the trademark, all of that stuff. We rolled it out
56:45
Speaker 1: and so when folks woke up on Friday, they said,
56:47
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Speaker 1: Little Secrets that Nobody wants to tell you about the
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Speaker 1: entertainment industry. I've been in the industry, entertainment industry. I
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Speaker 1: process of why we read, why we educate ourselves. She's
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Speaker 1: the one behind the scene of many many music and
1:00:29
Speaker 1: beloved artists including uh, Tony Braxton, Chante More, Carrie Underwood, Fantasia,
1:00:36
Speaker 1: Will Downing and Vogue, Escape the Brad, oh and many more.
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Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making conversations. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: I missed this young lady in my journey in music.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Cobb, Hello, good morning, afternoon. How w how did
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Speaker 1: I missed you? You know all these names here, you
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Speaker 1: know Tony Braxton, Chante More, Fantasia. So many times I've
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Speaker 1: how did we not? And even in your when you
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Speaker 1: said Barry Hankerson, when you said Baron Hankerson, who was
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Speaker 1: have I not met this young Lady's your car, we said, Barry.
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Speaker 1: When I read your book, you said Baron Hankerson, I
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Speaker 1: went through. I said, I don't know how I'm not
1:01:22
Speaker 1: met her. You know what's funny, and you know this,
1:01:28
Speaker 1: working with talent, you're in the background. And I tried
1:01:31
Speaker 1: to really stay in the background and Letten let the
1:01:35
Speaker 1: artists be the artists. I'd be the manager or the
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Speaker 1: branding person. And let them do their job, and I
1:01:40
Speaker 1: was there to support and I enjoyed it was fun
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Speaker 1: and I liked it like that. Well, you know the
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Speaker 1: funny part about your book. I would like to ask,
1:01:48
Speaker 1: I guess when they come on the show, what is
1:01:50
Speaker 1: your gift or gifts? Srill call one of my loyalty
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Speaker 1: m hm, loyalty is I'll tell you this. It's also
1:02:01
Speaker 1: it's one of my wisest and biggest strengths and also
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Speaker 1: one of my biggest failures because I'm loyal to a
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Speaker 1: be loyal to that and pray perfectly they'll they'll be
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Speaker 1: loyal to you. But that's one of my biggest strengths,
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Speaker 1: is loyalty. We know it's really Also when I say that,
1:02:31
Speaker 1: is that when I'm reading a book, one of the
1:02:33
Speaker 1: things that one of my big takeaways from your book
1:02:35
Speaker 1: the book I'm talking to Sheriff Carb and her book
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Speaker 1: is entitled Dirty Little Secrets that Nobody wants to tell
1:02:41
Speaker 1: you about the entertainment industry, was that we get into
1:02:45
Speaker 1: this business not really knowing our true gifts. That's why
1:02:47
Speaker 1: I asked what your gift was, because you know, you
1:02:50
Speaker 1: came in and as an assistant for a lot of
1:02:53
Speaker 1: uh talented people. And one of the fun stories I
1:02:56
Speaker 1: read was when Tony Braxton looked at you and so
1:02:58
Speaker 1: you you're not a man, you're not under a sister,
1:03:01
Speaker 1: You're a manager. And the very next day you quit
1:03:05
Speaker 1: and she fired you at the same time. Story it
1:03:09
Speaker 1: was a mutual agreement. It was we were working on
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Speaker 1: a video in Miami, Florida, and she was lovely and
1:03:17
Speaker 1: I went in and we were introduced through a mutual
1:03:19
Speaker 1: friends and after spending a couple of days on the
1:03:22
Speaker 1: video shoot, on the way home, yeah, she was like,
1:03:24
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know why you're trying to be
1:03:27
Speaker 1: my assistant. But she didn't know that I had just
1:03:30
Speaker 1: gotten into the business and I've been working with Luther
1:03:34
Speaker 1: Vangrol for about maybe nine months. That was my first gig,
1:03:38
Speaker 1: Luther Vandros traveling the world and she needed an assistant
1:03:42
Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, this is the next gig,
1:03:44
Speaker 1: I'll take it, and I took the job, and you know,
1:03:48
Speaker 1: after the weekend, I was like, I can't do this.
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Speaker 1: I can't do it the same like I think you should.
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Speaker 1: You should be something else. I'll tell you what. Maybe,
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Speaker 1: Like um about after she said this is not gonna
1:04:00
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1:04:02
Speaker 1: not gonna work out. She called me back about a
1:04:04
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Speaker 1: so I'm going to Europe. I need a tour manager.
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Speaker 1: Would you be interested? And I was like absolutely, I'd
1:04:13
Speaker 1: never traveled to Europe uh in that capacity, but I
1:04:17
Speaker 1: was like, I could do it. And that's how we
1:04:20
Speaker 1: started our journey. And I think we had like a
1:04:22
Speaker 1: six or seven year journey from you know for me
1:04:24
Speaker 1: being her road matt tour manager, road manager, go onto
1:04:27
Speaker 1: her day to day manager, and then made of honor
1:04:30
Speaker 1: in her wedding. So it was, you know, that's how
1:04:32
Speaker 1: relationships established. Um. But that's how I started my journey
1:04:36
Speaker 1: with Tony Braxton and it was a good journey. Well,
1:04:38
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting when I read when I'm
1:04:40
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1:04:44
Speaker 1: being a tour manager to Europe. Okay, now, that's something
1:04:47
Speaker 1: you had not done at the time, had not, But
1:04:51
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1:04:54
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1:04:57
Speaker 1: that's the drive that you have inside, that's the that's
1:05:00
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1:05:03
Speaker 1: you know, allow you never let fear win. And a
1:05:05
Speaker 1: lot of people left fear win a change the opportunity.
1:05:09
Speaker 1: They doubt themselves, but you didn't doubt yourself. Why not? Well,
1:05:13
Speaker 1: I knew going into the industry that I could do it.
1:05:16
Speaker 1: I had a background in production, so I was just
1:05:21
Speaker 1: clear and faith. I walked out on faith on every
1:05:23
Speaker 1: decision I make. It's faith um experienced though. Let me
1:05:28
Speaker 1: tell you I worked with Luther, and Luther was a
1:05:31
Speaker 1: perfectionist and I had the yes, yes he was Excuse me.
1:05:38
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of traveling to Europe with Luthor
1:05:42
Speaker 1: as a hospitality director. So I was way in the background. Lord,
1:05:47
Speaker 1: that's the potem pole. But you know what I did.
1:05:49
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Rashaan, I attached to myself to
1:05:52
Speaker 1: his tour manager and we became best friends and he
1:05:57
Speaker 1: taught me everything. Cath Richard's blessed his so he's not today,
1:06:00
Speaker 1: but he was excellent and I and let me tell you,
1:06:05
Speaker 1: anybody knows anything about Lucive Andros, they knew that he
1:06:08
Speaker 1: everything was first class. Everything, his staff, his team, it
1:06:11
Speaker 1: was superb. So I attached myself to somebody who I
1:06:14
Speaker 1: knew understood business. And once I got the job with
1:06:17
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1:06:23
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about, you know, really interesting when
1:06:26
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1:06:30
Speaker 1: to this world at first class level. Lutherve Andro's career,
1:06:34
Speaker 1: Uh when she came on board, three thousand people was
1:06:38
Speaker 1: a minimum that he will perform in front of Luther
1:06:40
Speaker 1: rain Dross and and you know, everything had to be right,
1:06:45
Speaker 1: the food had He was a consummate professional, and so
1:06:48
Speaker 1: when you walked in the room, he was never allowed.
1:06:51
Speaker 1: You know, his pasona, his his brand, all those things
1:06:55
Speaker 1: matter to him. And that's why he had had the
1:06:58
Speaker 1: career that he had and left us with the hits
1:07:00
Speaker 1: that he left us with because he treated everybody as
1:07:04
Speaker 1: humans and never saw himself as being bigger than the moment.
1:07:08
Speaker 1: And so that was that was like, you know, that
1:07:10
Speaker 1: was like a PhD. On how to do a tour
1:07:13
Speaker 1: right and how to how to treat people on a tour.
1:07:16
Speaker 1: That you got right? Is that I keep telling you, girl,
1:07:25
Speaker 1: I should have met you. Okay, again, this is Sheryl Carr.
1:07:29
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Sheryl car. She has a book called
1:07:31
Speaker 1: Dirty Little Secrets that nobody wants to tell you about
1:07:34
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry. Now this person again, Luther Van Draws,
1:07:40
Speaker 1: hospitality director Tony Bradston Chante more carry Underwood. You know,
1:07:45
Speaker 1: American Highland Plantation, American Highland, Will Diamond, who I loved,
1:07:50
Speaker 1: who I feel there's never gotten this due as a
1:07:53
Speaker 1: performer or a single. He's just as amazing as Luther
1:07:58
Speaker 1: as absolutely in vogue, escape all the brad you know.
1:08:06
Speaker 1: It's this is just a short list of people that
1:08:08
Speaker 1: she has uh she has touched. And when I say touch,
1:08:12
Speaker 1: let me just get personal a little bit. From a manager,
1:08:15
Speaker 1: management perspective or producer perspective, rance has to be there.
1:08:20
Speaker 1: You have to have answers when people they will come
1:08:22
Speaker 1: to you for answers and you can't go uhh, you
1:08:26
Speaker 1: have you better have an answer because they're depending on you,
1:08:30
Speaker 1: when they wake up, depending on you. When't you go
1:08:32
Speaker 1: to sleep. Um, I remember Steve Harvey still always tell
1:08:35
Speaker 1: me here you know everything, you know what you're shying
1:08:37
Speaker 1: to go? Yeah? Yeah, And even he's sure he was
1:08:43
Speaker 1: looking at me, go you serious, aren't you? Yes? I
1:08:46
Speaker 1: am serious. What you need to know, Steve, I'm gonna
1:08:48
Speaker 1: tell you because I'm not gonna sit a bit tell
1:08:50
Speaker 1: you I don't know anything. And it was so it
1:08:52
Speaker 1: was so funny because I, you know, managed Steven A
1:08:55
Speaker 1: Smith Nows And it was so funny that Steven he
1:08:57
Speaker 1: called me, he called me off god he and he
1:09:00
Speaker 1: asked me a question. I went, I don't know. He went,
1:09:03
Speaker 1: hold up. Now this needs to make the national news.
1:09:06
Speaker 1: Rashan mcdun't said he didn't know anything, and so and
1:09:10
Speaker 1: that down on me out of respect and also out
1:09:13
Speaker 1: of uh that people know that about your brand, that
1:09:16
Speaker 1: they know they can come to you and get an
1:09:17
Speaker 1: honest statement that they know. And that's what you have
1:09:20
Speaker 1: built in your life. You don't get all these names
1:09:23
Speaker 1: associated with your brand, Schirl unless you get that reputation
1:09:28
Speaker 1: of being honest, get that reputation of being able to deliver. Yes, yes,
1:09:33
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something very interesting that you said,
1:09:37
Speaker 1: being able to be honest is so important and one
1:09:41
Speaker 1: of the secrets in my book, I think it's number nine.
1:09:44
Speaker 1: It's called pick your Battles. And what Pick your Battles
1:09:47
Speaker 1: explains is is that as a manager, your job is
1:09:51
Speaker 1: to advise and to consult. You're not You're not their boss,
1:09:56
Speaker 1: and they're not your boss. Your job is to actually
1:10:00
Speaker 1: because when they don't take your advice, our consultation, then
1:10:02
Speaker 1: your job is no longer needed. So you know, if
1:10:05
Speaker 1: I have an artist and I advised them and they
1:10:07
Speaker 1: decided not to take my advice, then my advice to
1:10:10
Speaker 1: them is do what you need. I'm gonna back you
1:10:14
Speaker 1: and we'll find a solution right or wrong. But this
1:10:17
Speaker 1: is my advice and this is what wise counsel is
1:10:20
Speaker 1: so important. But at the end of the day, they
1:10:22
Speaker 1: make their own decisions and you have to go with it. Absolutely.
1:10:26
Speaker 1: It was one of the one of your favorite lines
1:10:28
Speaker 1: in this book of you said, you've been fired, rehired,
1:10:32
Speaker 1: and quit. You've been fired by some of the best
1:10:34
Speaker 1: people in the industry. And it's okay. Now. Yes. The
1:10:38
Speaker 1: reason I'm a I'm a slow this down for mane
1:10:42
Speaker 1: because I gotta talk a little racial here, because I
1:10:45
Speaker 1: learned this. I learned this in the business, you know
1:10:48
Speaker 1: from from my white counterparts. You know I would they
1:10:53
Speaker 1: would get fired. They come in, shake the person's hand,
1:10:57
Speaker 1: say thank you for the opportunity, and walk point. And
1:11:01
Speaker 1: I've seen my my black counter for mad. But we
1:11:04
Speaker 1: all know nobody likes to get fired. Nobody likes to
1:11:06
Speaker 1: get You know that that's a bad experience. But but
1:11:10
Speaker 1: this is the long run. This is the run, This
1:11:13
Speaker 1: is a relationship. How you react because it's a very
1:11:15
Speaker 1: small circle in high the wood entertainment is a very
1:11:18
Speaker 1: small circle. So if you're a fool over here, leave,
1:11:22
Speaker 1: it gonna circulate to everybody real quick. So it's how
1:11:26
Speaker 1: you exit, how you exit those dark moments. It is
1:11:29
Speaker 1: very key, and it's from a minority perspective. You cannot
1:11:33
Speaker 1: take this stuff personal. You cannot. But you know what's
1:11:37
Speaker 1: interesting about that, that's a learned behavior too, because nobody
1:11:42
Speaker 1: you could work at Walmart, nobody wants to get fired.
1:11:45
Speaker 1: And it doesn't feel good under any circumstances, doesn't feel good.
1:11:49
Speaker 1: But once you understand the process, and that's this is
1:11:51
Speaker 1: why I wrote this book. And number You're Gonna Get
1:11:54
Speaker 1: Fired is my number one chapter is because you're going
1:11:58
Speaker 1: to get fired, and I teach you how to process it.
1:12:01
Speaker 1: And there's like four or five little steps that you
1:12:03
Speaker 1: have to go to get to recovery. And those steps,
1:12:07
Speaker 1: although their small, as you say, little nudgets, they are meaningful.
1:12:11
Speaker 1: And when you understand them and you you begin to
1:12:14
Speaker 1: source because you go into your next job and you
1:12:16
Speaker 1: understand that it's a job and you have to separate
1:12:18
Speaker 1: the friendship from the business. Being able to talk to
1:12:21
Speaker 1: somebody who's been there, done that, it's really refreshing. And
1:12:25
Speaker 1: I found that really really refreshing about your book is
1:12:29
Speaker 1: that it's very honest and very truthful and putting together
1:12:33
Speaker 1: a book like this walk us through the steps, Cheryl,
1:12:38
Speaker 1: you know it. First we'll start with experience, just really experience.
1:12:44
Speaker 1: And I was literally I wrote another book, which I'll
1:12:46
Speaker 1: tell you about later when I wrote that, but it's
1:12:49
Speaker 1: a bigger book. But this ten dirty Little Secret is
1:12:52
Speaker 1: a small book out of the big book. As I
1:12:54
Speaker 1: was writing the book, I was like, he's a nugget
1:12:57
Speaker 1: that people need to know. So these were extracted out
1:13:00
Speaker 1: of my bigger book. And I decided to release this
1:13:03
Speaker 1: from first because right now, these kids out here, and
1:13:07
Speaker 1: then also experienced artists that can't like reboot their careers
1:13:11
Speaker 1: need to read the books. So that's how it started,
1:13:14
Speaker 1: just me going over. I was like, what are the
1:13:17
Speaker 1: ten things? Not a lot? There's something simple, the ten
1:13:19
Speaker 1: things that I believe people need to know. And I
1:13:24
Speaker 1: decided to use the things that affected me mos, which
1:13:27
Speaker 1: is friendship, business, finance, loyalty, you know, picking your battles,
1:13:39
Speaker 1: and then also the administrative stuff which I'm sure we'll
1:13:41
Speaker 1: get into later, and that's called your team. And so
1:13:45
Speaker 1: both and picking the right team and having the ranking,
1:13:47
Speaker 1: so both were like the strongest things I can remember
1:13:50
Speaker 1: that will affect every artist. Every last one of these
1:13:54
Speaker 1: ten nuggets will affect you, no matter who you are.
1:13:58
Speaker 1: And so that's where the whole, that's where the energy
1:14:00
Speaker 1: came from. I know, I wanted to stand in order,
1:14:02
Speaker 1: but you brought up something that I want to keep
1:14:03
Speaker 1: at the top of the mind. The team. Who is
1:14:07
Speaker 1: your team? What is your team? I remember when I
1:14:09
Speaker 1: stopped managing Steve Harvey and and I was by myself,
1:14:14
Speaker 1: you know, and I was trying to figure all this
1:14:16
Speaker 1: out by myself, and and and it took me about
1:14:19
Speaker 1: a year to realize Roshan you were successful with Steve Harvey,
1:14:23
Speaker 1: for sure, but you also had a team. And so
1:14:26
Speaker 1: in t seventeen, I started assembling a team around me.
1:14:29
Speaker 1: People who knew my brand, who trusted me, had more
1:14:32
Speaker 1: passion for my brand sometimes than I had, because because
1:14:35
Speaker 1: it's important to have people around you that have passion
1:14:38
Speaker 1: for your brand, because it can get tiring. Just keep
1:14:41
Speaker 1: talking about yourself, keep motivating yourself, keep moving forward, and
1:14:45
Speaker 1: they drop some information about you, then you go, oh, yeah,
1:14:47
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1:14:50
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1:14:53
Speaker 1: out of boarder, you start changing it, and you start
1:14:56
Speaker 1: short changing your opportunity to short changing the things that
1:14:58
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1:15:01
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1:15:04
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1:15:08
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1:15:12
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1:15:15
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1:15:19
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1:15:21
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1:15:23
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1:15:26
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1:15:30
Speaker 1: why you can write a book like that. If I
1:15:33
Speaker 1: just start just talking about this book, people may get
1:15:35
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1:15:38
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1:15:39
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1:15:43
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1:15:45
Speaker 1: talks about her flaws. She talks about her mistakes. She
1:15:49
Speaker 1: talks about how she's gotten up several times, how being
1:15:54
Speaker 1: fired was attack on her integrity. How r Kelly's old
1:15:58
Speaker 1: manager custoded like she was a man. That was the
1:16:00
Speaker 1: funniest line in that book. Im. If you know Barry,
1:16:05
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1:16:10
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1:16:16
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1:16:19
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1:16:25
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1:16:28
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1:16:31
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1:16:33
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1:16:36
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1:16:39
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1:16:43
Speaker 1: it wasn't right. It wasn't right. But you know what,
1:16:46
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1:16:48
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1:16:51
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1:16:55
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1:16:57
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1:17:01
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1:17:04
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1:17:07
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1:17:10
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1:17:13
Speaker 1: how did I recover from being fired or from me?
1:17:16
Speaker 1: Just tell you this, I same thing that happened to
1:17:19
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1:17:22
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1:17:25
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1:17:28
Speaker 1: I've worked so many years for this person and I've
1:17:30
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1:17:34
Speaker 1: really started digging deep within. I was like, Okay, I'm
1:17:36
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1:17:39
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fix. I need my crown six and I'm
1:17:41
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1:17:46
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1:17:47
Speaker 1: So I have a good friend. I'm gonna give her
1:17:49
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1:17:51
Speaker 1: with me on my books. Her name is Dr Dean Gordon.
1:17:54
Speaker 1: I promise you this woman is amazing, she said. I
1:17:58
Speaker 1: told her I had a story, said come talk to me.
1:18:01
Speaker 1: I sat there and I talked to this woman for
1:18:03
Speaker 1: about three hours, and the next day she brought the
1:18:05
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1:18:09
Speaker 1: your story. You wrote this. I just typed it and
1:18:11
Speaker 1: just put it in order. And that's how we started writing.
1:18:14
Speaker 1: And we finished that book and we started on another book.
1:18:17
Speaker 1: She's she is like a dream story whisperer. She will
1:18:22
Speaker 1: take your stories. You might think the story is one thing,
1:18:25
Speaker 1: and then you finished talking to her and you come
1:18:26
Speaker 1: out finding out, oh my god, I have a whole
1:18:28
Speaker 1: different story in me. So Stan Gordon's stuck with me,
1:18:32
Speaker 1: walked with me through the Jeremy pam Brussard, who's my publicist,
1:18:36
Speaker 1: who you know, was an amazing who came to me
1:18:38
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, I trust in you. You've
1:18:41
Speaker 1: brought me a lot of clients. You've been very low
1:18:43
Speaker 1: to me. You know what, I'm gonna get on your team.
1:18:45
Speaker 1: And then I have a young lady that's been under me,
1:18:49
Speaker 1: under my tutelage for years, the name of sureI Griffin said,
1:18:51
Speaker 1: I do social media. I'll do your social media. And
1:18:54
Speaker 1: I trust all three of those people. And we put
1:18:56
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1:19:00
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1:19:02
Speaker 1: take it off. Well, you know this is really is
1:19:06
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1:19:10
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1:19:13
Speaker 1: When you were a success and you don't have a
1:19:15
Speaker 1: team around you, then you for can forget your greatness,
1:19:18
Speaker 1: you can forget your accomplishments. Because sometimes I always tell
1:19:22
Speaker 1: people like, sometimes you gotta have somebody else brag about you,
1:19:26
Speaker 1: hype you talk about you. That's why I love rappers.
1:19:28
Speaker 1: They started the hype game. Gotta come out there. I'm
1:19:31
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1:19:33
Speaker 1: But but actually I started with Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Alias
1:19:37
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1:19:41
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1:19:43
Speaker 1: Why come out there? Absolutely absolutely there there were they
1:19:48
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1:19:51
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1:19:56
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1:20:00
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1:20:03
Speaker 1: When I was doing stand up comedy as a host,
1:20:05
Speaker 1: that's all I was doing. I was as a host.
1:20:07
Speaker 1: I was a hype god. They give me the credits
1:20:09
Speaker 1: and I go, okay, I gotta hype this person up
1:20:11
Speaker 1: so everybody could realize why they should be excited about
1:20:13
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1:20:17
Speaker 1: singer and things like that. So so so, now you've
1:20:20
Speaker 1: got a team of hype people around. That's all. I
1:20:22
Speaker 1: have a team of hype people around because sometimes I
1:20:25
Speaker 1: tell things like don't worry about that, to go, what
1:20:27
Speaker 1: do you don't worry about that? You have a degree
1:20:29
Speaker 1: in mathematics. Oh yeah, okay, that's that's a big deal.
1:20:33
Speaker 1: What should put it in your bio? How about working
1:20:35
Speaker 1: for working at IBM? That's a big deal and so
1:20:38
Speaker 1: because you start cutting off little slices of your success.
1:20:42
Speaker 1: So it's important your book talk about that. And it's
1:20:46
Speaker 1: important that you understand the value of having people around
1:20:49
Speaker 1: you to promote your brand, support your brand, hype your brand.
1:20:54
Speaker 1: That part of the book was so important to me.
1:20:57
Speaker 1: Thank you. And what did you read the the part
1:21:00
Speaker 1: right after that, This is loyalty a team, but your
1:21:04
Speaker 1: team has to be that person has to be loyal
1:21:06
Speaker 1: to you as well. Absolutely both ways, absolutely absolutely, And
1:21:11
Speaker 1: I got that tip from Open Went Free. Well you
1:21:14
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1:21:18
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1:21:22
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1:21:24
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1:21:33
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1:21:35
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1:21:37
Speaker 1: you have to pick up a little nuances. So so
1:21:39
Speaker 1: Fantasia wanted to open wanted to talk to this Phantasia. Fantasia,
1:21:43
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1:21:45
Speaker 1: with you come with me to meet with Oprah And
1:21:47
Speaker 1: oper was her idol, So she wasn't gonna pass up
1:21:50
Speaker 1: on the chance to But but you didn't want to
1:21:51
Speaker 1: go in to a meeting if Gail King wasn't gonna
1:21:53
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1:21:55
Speaker 1: Gail King says she's gonna be there. You got to
1:21:58
Speaker 1: go to the meeting meet your idol because King was there.
1:22:00
Speaker 1: Because that was a relationship you had built along the way.
1:22:03
Speaker 1: And life is a wonderful thing. I've read you and
1:22:06
Speaker 1: so when I tell people go read your book, they
1:22:09
Speaker 1: should read your book. That story we're gonna leave people
1:22:13
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1:22:16
Speaker 1: so inspiring what she taught and what she said she
1:22:19
Speaker 1: can healse me with Sam Page. I just happened to
1:22:21
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1:22:24
Speaker 1: And so I was able to take it absorbed. I
1:22:27
Speaker 1: was in the meeting and then I stepped out and
1:22:29
Speaker 1: let's them have a private meeting. But the the beginning
1:22:32
Speaker 1: of that meeting was so powerful, and what she said
1:22:35
Speaker 1: stuck with me and I had to tell that story ablutely.
1:22:38
Speaker 1: There another story you're telling the book is by your
1:22:40
Speaker 1: relationship with r. Kelly or Robert Kelly. You don't only
1:22:43
Speaker 1: need to Robert Kelly. Okay, and then you say this,
1:22:46
Speaker 1: and I took this out of the book. It has
1:22:48
Speaker 1: been uh, I've been Uh. He never tried to sleep
1:22:51
Speaker 1: with me and treated me like a princess. A lot
1:22:54
Speaker 1: of people may not like that I'm writing this, but
1:22:56
Speaker 1: every situation is different. I only knew that version of
1:22:59
Speaker 1: our Robert Kelly. That's what you call it, Robert because
1:23:03
Speaker 1: because of the fact that we all know what's going
1:23:04
Speaker 1: on in the media right now. But that's but you
1:23:07
Speaker 1: can't deny the relationship and the positive impact that that
1:23:11
Speaker 1: relationship had in your life. And you mentioned that in
1:23:15
Speaker 1: the book, but you still felt it had value to
1:23:17
Speaker 1: your story. Correct. It was so important, And people warned
1:23:22
Speaker 1: me about mentioning it, but I was like, I'm not ashamed.
1:23:25
Speaker 1: It's a part of my journey when I worked with him,
1:23:28
Speaker 1: and it'll tell you in the book through interscope. I
1:23:31
Speaker 1: worked with Jimmy I being the stout were I ran
1:23:35
Speaker 1: his record label and so I didn't run to the
1:23:39
Speaker 1: gym and play basketball and in lifts private life. So
1:23:43
Speaker 1: you can work with somebody and have absolutely no idea
1:23:47
Speaker 1: about what they're doing in their private life. So I
1:23:52
Speaker 1: was astonished and still am. I'm just hurt beyond measure
1:23:56
Speaker 1: because you know, and you know, everybody gets their day
1:23:58
Speaker 1: in course, but my journey, my experience, was not a
1:24:02
Speaker 1: bad experience. So I had to put it in there
1:24:05
Speaker 1: because it's fair. And you'll notice in the book I
1:24:08
Speaker 1: throw myself under the bus several times because I have
1:24:11
Speaker 1: to tell the truth about the journey because no matter
1:24:13
Speaker 1: who you work with, good or bad, some times, you know,
1:24:16
Speaker 1: I have had clients to file bankruptcy. I was right there.
1:24:20
Speaker 1: I checked clients who who's had you know, And I
1:24:23
Speaker 1: never tell anybody's private business in the book. I tell
1:24:26
Speaker 1: my private business absolutely, and that's and that was That
1:24:29
Speaker 1: was fine with me, Like I said, But this part
1:24:31
Speaker 1: of the book I thought was important because if relationships
1:24:35
Speaker 1: or what make us and so good or bad? And
1:24:38
Speaker 1: so I felt it was a very courageous moment for
1:24:41
Speaker 1: you because you could took it an easy road out
1:24:43
Speaker 1: and say I'm not leaving this part out and I'm
1:24:44
Speaker 1: just gonna talk about this. But you're talking about dirty
1:24:47
Speaker 1: little secrets and entertainment industry, and some of these secrets
1:24:51
Speaker 1: are about people who you work with, people who you
1:24:54
Speaker 1: do business with. But how do you act there's no
1:24:56
Speaker 1: different than I'm not trying to go into that next levels.
1:24:59
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1:25:03
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1:25:05
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1:25:08
Speaker 1: based on that verdict. And so but in your book,
1:25:11
Speaker 1: it's so many it's about relationship you talk about it's
1:25:14
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1:25:16
Speaker 1: It's about the people, because the team is the key
1:25:19
Speaker 1: at that point. Now, because the fact that you have
1:25:22
Speaker 1: people around you to tell you I wouldn't do that,
1:25:25
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1:25:29
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1:25:32
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1:25:34
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1:25:38
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1:25:40
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1:25:43
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1:25:46
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1:25:49
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1:25:53
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1:25:56
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1:25:58
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1:26:02
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1:26:06
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1:26:09
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1:26:11
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1:26:22
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1:27:01
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1:31:00
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1:31:03
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1:31:05
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1:31:11
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1:31:14
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1:31:17
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1:31:21
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Speaker 1: on down the road because you never know, you know
1:31:30
Speaker 1: that that grip that uh that you know, operator uh
1:31:35
Speaker 1: might have the next big movie or whatever. So you
1:31:38
Speaker 1: know I attributed that and God and uh just trying
1:31:43
Speaker 1: to stay relevant and you relevant and you stay rel
1:31:47
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's just show why you relevant. Chairsh today. Okay,
1:31:51
Speaker 1: Now it's like, who are you talking about? You know,
1:31:55
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a man. You know, first of all,
1:31:57
Speaker 1: if anybody has not seen the Love Story by Avadukeay
1:32:01
Speaker 1: on their own network for the Oprah Winfrey Network, Um
1:32:05
Speaker 1: and um, oh my god, you played the farther figure
1:32:09
Speaker 1: and read also plays the mother. You guys have two
1:32:12
Speaker 1: characters to come in and just take over that episode emotionally.
1:32:15
Speaker 1: Um and you know it just talked about getting involved
1:32:20
Speaker 1: with the show like that. That is a it's a
1:32:22
Speaker 1: time piece from the standpoint she jumps most and years
1:32:26
Speaker 1: in the relationship. And there's only eight episodes, but it
1:32:29
Speaker 1: is the talk of the town as far as UH
1:32:34
Speaker 1: television U making, filmmaking, television making. Nobody has done that
1:32:39
Speaker 1: before like that. But no, if it has been done,
1:32:41
Speaker 1: it is never captured the imagination of the viewing audience
1:32:45
Speaker 1: like it has today. You are part of African America.
1:32:48
Speaker 1: My god, God, it is so dope to to be
1:32:53
Speaker 1: a part of this amazing production. And I'm I'm so
1:32:58
Speaker 1: glad that people get to see me outside of my gendre,
1:33:02
Speaker 1: of my box that comedy. Um, you know that that
1:33:06
Speaker 1: everybody knows me for to be able to play this
1:33:09
Speaker 1: this interesting character. Um. This this father who is you know,
1:33:13
Speaker 1: the head of the household, but he's really not because
1:33:15
Speaker 1: the mother is yet once again relationships and we we
1:33:21
Speaker 1: go way back to the Parkers as well. And uh.
1:33:25
Speaker 1: And when they told me that she was cast, I
1:33:26
Speaker 1: was like, is she getting ready to kill this? But
1:33:30
Speaker 1: I had a great time. It's an all star cast. Um.
1:33:33
Speaker 1: Just just a wonderful vibe and and something really different,
1:33:37
Speaker 1: like you were saying, Uh, to see African Americans. Uh,
1:33:40
Speaker 1: couple that are in love and you know the child's
1:33:43
Speaker 1: and tribulations that they go through. Um, and it's carried
1:33:46
Speaker 1: through years. Um you know, and you have the legendary
1:33:51
Speaker 1: Sincily Tyson. Um. Yeah, I mean this amazing, Yeah, exactly exactly.
1:34:00
Speaker 1: But your character, you play with such an important character
1:34:04
Speaker 1: because you know it is kind of funny and then
1:34:07
Speaker 1: but that's men that stairwell and not giving. This series
1:34:10
Speaker 1: was very dramatic, and it was like, that's what you're
1:34:13
Speaker 1: talking about. Give you a chance to spread. You do
1:34:16
Speaker 1: a little humor, but you come back and you're reel
1:34:19
Speaker 1: and that's that's a that's a unique ability that we're
1:34:22
Speaker 1: quite often to don't see that much because of the character.
1:34:25
Speaker 1: Right see you as a sitcom star, see if comedy
1:34:28
Speaker 1: we leave, come in and be funny and break up
1:34:31
Speaker 1: the moment. And this shirt allows this series allows people
1:34:34
Speaker 1: to see you from a very very uh enjoyable, unjarable.
1:34:38
Speaker 1: Congratulations man, congratulations, Thank you so much. Man. It allowed
1:34:42
Speaker 1: me to stretch my acting muscle, if you will. But
1:34:46
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know I'm classically trained, you know,
1:34:50
Speaker 1: you know, I know, yes, of course, because you're with
1:34:53
Speaker 1: Steve used to clown all the time acting, But yeah,
1:35:01
Speaker 1: I did all of Shakespeare and dramatic stuff, slowdowns on
1:35:04
Speaker 1: the killing ground, um, you know, just it's serious of
1:35:08
Speaker 1: deep pieces. And I graduated from um, you know, doing
1:35:12
Speaker 1: this performing arts school, came to l A and you
1:35:16
Speaker 1: know right away I'm cast as a funny sidekick on
1:35:20
Speaker 1: the show Uh dream on um And, which I did
1:35:23
Speaker 1: for six years, and after that, I was like totally pitcheonholed.
1:35:27
Speaker 1: It's like, this is a funny guy. He's a comic,
1:35:30
Speaker 1: you know, but I have I do have a range,
1:35:32
Speaker 1: and so absolutely, you know, I'm so they get to
1:35:35
Speaker 1: see it in that show, and I was thankful to
1:35:37
Speaker 1: see it because it's just, you know, it's just it's
1:35:39
Speaker 1: just fascinating to watch. I consider you a friend in
1:35:42
Speaker 1: the business. I could see you with somebody that if
1:35:45
Speaker 1: I have an opportunity to cast a role, I want
1:35:48
Speaker 1: to bring you in to make sure you get an
1:35:50
Speaker 1: opportunity because you're professional and hear that here, thank you,
1:35:58
Speaker 1: thank you, but you're not but don't want you just
1:36:00
Speaker 1: stuck with just chairs today is amazing. But have a
1:36:02
Speaker 1: TV one series stepping back and stepping back to low,
1:36:05
Speaker 1: stepping back to low, tell us about that. Uh, once again,
1:36:09
Speaker 1: I got to play this incredible role. I'm playing the
1:36:13
Speaker 1: father of the lead character um and Uh, Darren Henson,
1:36:19
Speaker 1: who is amazing in his own right. He's a beautiful dancer. Uh.
1:36:25
Speaker 1: He has we have this um love hate relationship with
1:36:29
Speaker 1: his father and son that I bring out that I'm saying,
1:36:34
Speaker 1: you know, I just want the best for my son,
1:36:36
Speaker 1: so I pushed him, uh to to make him a
1:36:39
Speaker 1: better man. And it doesn't come across that way to
1:36:42
Speaker 1: him at all times, because it just seems seems like
1:36:46
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, you know, being a beast on him. But
1:36:49
Speaker 1: you know, I know he's capable of you know, greater
1:36:52
Speaker 1: things in my eye, um so um, you know, and
1:36:56
Speaker 1: once again I got to play this get this incredible role,
1:37:00
Speaker 1: um opposite of him. But it was a beautiful project.
1:37:03
Speaker 1: Um and they had a great time shooting it. And
1:37:05
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Darren, So Darren Hanson and he's
1:37:08
Speaker 1: done a lot of plays on the road. You've probably
1:37:10
Speaker 1: have seen him in those. He's very good and amazing dance.
1:37:15
Speaker 1: He's on fools as well. The thing about it is
1:37:18
Speaker 1: that when because I've watched some clips from the series,
1:37:21
Speaker 1: is that when you're talking about it, like my father
1:37:23
Speaker 1: he was passed away, our relationship was kind of like that.
1:37:27
Speaker 1: You know, he had expectations for me, and I had
1:37:28
Speaker 1: expectations for myself, and so and so. In the series,
1:37:32
Speaker 1: it comes across, which is a good storytelling, by the way,
1:37:36
Speaker 1: where he thinks he wants you to live the life
1:37:39
Speaker 1: that you want him to live, and that creates the
1:37:42
Speaker 1: conflict because you're just trying to get him to live
1:37:44
Speaker 1: the best life that he can possible and that's the
1:37:47
Speaker 1: that's the basis of that storytelling for that particular series. Correct. Yes,
1:37:52
Speaker 1: absolutely and uh and not to be outdone. My father
1:37:56
Speaker 1: was the same way. He pushed me. It was accept
1:38:00
Speaker 1: thing of everything that I do and always, um is
1:38:03
Speaker 1: that first person to be that that cheerleader, uh, you know,
1:38:07
Speaker 1: to encourage me. But I believe me if it wasn't
1:38:12
Speaker 1: for him, my mother as well, UM, they wanted me
1:38:16
Speaker 1: to be the best me um. And so you know
1:38:19
Speaker 1: they laid that foundation with God and and hard work,
1:38:22
Speaker 1: uh and dedication. There's nothing that I couldn't do. And
1:38:25
Speaker 1: so you know I realized that and that's what I
1:38:27
Speaker 1: passed on to my kids as well and try to
1:38:30
Speaker 1: encourage them as well. Well. The next two things I'm
1:38:33
Speaker 1: about to bring up what excites me about what's what's
1:38:35
Speaker 1: happening in career? You executive producing, not saying you haven't
1:38:38
Speaker 1: done any advance, but these projects that we're about to
1:38:41
Speaker 1: talk about the next two projects, you are the executive producer,
1:38:44
Speaker 1: one of the executive producer. The first project we want
1:38:46
Speaker 1: talk about is starring and the bt S Network show
1:38:49
Speaker 1: called He's Hers and the Truth. First of all, I
1:38:52
Speaker 1: love that title. Right there, He's Hers and the Truth
1:38:55
Speaker 1: right there, I'm watching right there, So I'm watching that.
1:38:57
Speaker 1: I'm watching that because you know, there's a lot, there's
1:39:01
Speaker 1: a kind of and there's the twothre ye. Remember there's
1:39:06
Speaker 1: the lines on the hit side, that's the lies on
1:39:08
Speaker 1: the side. What is the truth? But the funny part
1:39:14
Speaker 1: is it's it's our truth as well. You know, we
1:39:17
Speaker 1: really believe that we're telling the truth. This is our perspective,
1:39:21
Speaker 1: you know, uh, coming from us, but in lies somewhere
1:39:25
Speaker 1: in the middle, that's where the truth is. Though, So
1:39:28
Speaker 1: how do you get involved and get the title of
1:39:31
Speaker 1: executive producing for this particular show. Well, first of all,
1:39:36
Speaker 1: the first and foremost, I have an amazing manager. Um
1:39:40
Speaker 1: managers management. Yeah, you must be on the phone, and uh,
1:39:49
Speaker 1: believe me, every project that he does or that the
1:39:53
Speaker 1: company does, I'm involved with some way or another. I'm
1:39:58
Speaker 1: actually in the movie as well. Um. But I got
1:40:02
Speaker 1: to really put a different hat on back and try to,
1:40:06
Speaker 1: you know, make this project come to fruition and uh,
1:40:09
Speaker 1: I'm having such a great time learning the business as well. Now,
1:40:14
Speaker 1: you know, I got to be behind in front of
1:40:17
Speaker 1: the camera for many many years, but now to be
1:40:21
Speaker 1: a part of you making Yeah, man, it's a it's
1:40:24
Speaker 1: a beautiful things. So it's really amazing that people you know,
1:40:29
Speaker 1: you know you have you have an acting executive producer
1:40:32
Speaker 1: and you have a working executive producer. You know, I'll
1:40:35
Speaker 1: be fortunate to be a working executive producer, which you've
1:40:38
Speaker 1: all been. The casting, it goes all down to can
1:40:41
Speaker 1: we pay that actress or can we pay that actor
1:40:43
Speaker 1: or is that a five and under? No, they have
1:40:45
Speaker 1: person as a stand in the room and be silent,
1:40:47
Speaker 1: can't get together and they gotta act like they active,
1:40:49
Speaker 1: but they can't say anything. It comes down to that.
1:40:52
Speaker 1: It comes down to catering, it comes down to set design.
1:40:55
Speaker 1: It really is the things that we don't see and
1:41:00
Speaker 1: it in front of us here. But it's it's crazy,
1:41:03
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a lot of work, and
1:41:05
Speaker 1: people don't realize that. You know. In fact, I felt
1:41:08
Speaker 1: kind of good because you were talking about all that
1:41:10
Speaker 1: work that we have been doing behind the sidelines, behind
1:41:13
Speaker 1: the scenes. You didn't know about tatering and wardrobe and
1:41:19
Speaker 1: uh you know that's that's the fun part about why
1:41:22
Speaker 1: I love being behind the camera. Well, I love being
1:41:26
Speaker 1: in front of the camera because I did all that
1:41:28
Speaker 1: I believe from all the stuff that you guys do,
1:41:31
Speaker 1: but you know, to to really be able to be
1:41:33
Speaker 1: a part of the decision making and the whole process
1:41:38
Speaker 1: of making a project come to fruition is amazing And
1:41:42
Speaker 1: I'm learning that, um. And I learned that from uh,
1:41:45
Speaker 1: you know, being an executive producer on the film his
1:41:48
Speaker 1: hers and the truth um working with incredible brothers that
1:41:52
Speaker 1: have done this for many, many years. This is uh
1:41:55
Speaker 1: their seventh movie together and so for them to bring
1:41:59
Speaker 1: me apart be a part of this is uh amazing
1:42:03
Speaker 1: to me because I'm learning as I'm doing, um, you know,
1:42:07
Speaker 1: and I can bring um the acting side to it
1:42:11
Speaker 1: as well. Uh. One of the reasons why Wendy Richelle
1:42:15
Speaker 1: Robinson is the lead actress to the movie. That's one
1:42:19
Speaker 1: of my best friends. And you know how far I
1:42:21
Speaker 1: go back. Um, yeah, so I brought her to the table. Um. Uh.
1:42:27
Speaker 1: Angie Stone plays my sister on My My show in
1:42:32
Speaker 1: the cut, and she's doing the soundtrack for the movie
1:42:37
Speaker 1: as well well along with little Mama um. So you know,
1:42:41
Speaker 1: to be able to bring those types of of people
1:42:45
Speaker 1: to the project, it just enhances it. And you know,
1:42:48
Speaker 1: I feel amazing that I'm a part of that. Now
1:42:51
Speaker 1: we're talking about fruits of the heart. Correct, Okay, Now,
1:42:55
Speaker 1: now another name that I gotta mentioned. It is my
1:42:58
Speaker 1: boy Clifton Pole, not Clifton Pole, and y'all came, y'all,
1:43:01
Speaker 1: y'all care the same amount of love in my heart
1:43:03
Speaker 1: as far as longevity in the business, and Cliff is
1:43:06
Speaker 1: a little option to you. He's opposed from you because
1:43:09
Speaker 1: you're you. You cut your key, your teeth and and
1:43:12
Speaker 1: and comedy, and now he's transition over to more lighthearted opportunities.
1:43:18
Speaker 1: He cut his teeth in drama, right and he's transcentionstion
1:43:22
Speaker 1: over there, you know what I'm saying. So it's really
1:43:23
Speaker 1: interesting watching you guys becoming like that's so much shifts
1:43:27
Speaker 1: in the night, but showing you how you have to
1:43:29
Speaker 1: adjust your career in order the last in this business. Yes, yes, yeah, Clifton.
1:43:35
Speaker 1: That's that's my boy right there. And what you see
1:43:39
Speaker 1: is what you did that that's a true brother in
1:43:41
Speaker 1: this industry who has paved the way for a lot
1:43:44
Speaker 1: of brothers. But we worked together way back, um with
1:43:48
Speaker 1: a movie that I did called um a Weekend with
1:43:51
Speaker 1: the Family and uh we directed and written by Christope.
1:43:56
Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw that. I saw that. I
1:43:59
Speaker 1: saw you know, I saw that one the crazy fan,
1:44:01
Speaker 1: the Asian mama, the Asian mama. I'm telling you, I'll
1:44:08
Speaker 1: tell you, Dory, I don't miss you on TV. Brother.
1:44:12
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of yours. Brother. I saw that. That
1:44:16
Speaker 1: was all my boy, because my boy from our immature
1:44:18
Speaker 1: was in that movie to exactly exactly. But yes, Christo
1:44:22
Speaker 1: directed and wrote that along with Marcus Houston. UM, and
1:44:27
Speaker 1: we had a great time. But Clinton and Wendy brought
1:44:30
Speaker 1: the fundy funny as always, um and I played the
1:44:34
Speaker 1: opposite of them. Uh kind of businessman who you know
1:44:40
Speaker 1: his son. Uh it wasn't good enough for my daughter.
1:44:44
Speaker 1: And they're gonna get married right right right. That was
1:44:47
Speaker 1: a great, very funny. It's on Netflix if you want
1:44:49
Speaker 1: to watch his own Netflix. It's a great watch doing
1:44:52
Speaker 1: these times, especially if you want to get some some
1:44:54
Speaker 1: good lighthearted spirit and some good fun and and and
1:44:58
Speaker 1: that that that that that Cliff Paul, he's over the
1:45:00
Speaker 1: top and there too. He's over the top. He's over
1:45:03
Speaker 1: the top. Now that's the beautiful part about these relationships.
1:45:07
Speaker 1: Let's let's get back to the series that that that's
1:45:10
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays an a pm Eastern. It's gonna bounce TV network.
1:45:13
Speaker 1: It is called in the Cut And I gotta I'll
1:45:16
Speaker 1: be remiss if I don't mention my boy Bentley Evans,
1:45:19
Speaker 1: who created the show man. Uh you know when I
1:45:23
Speaker 1: say White's special to me, brought me on to the
1:45:25
Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx Show as a co executive producer. One of
1:45:27
Speaker 1: the major moves in my life in this business because
1:45:30
Speaker 1: you gotta have people help me. He's African American guy.
1:45:34
Speaker 1: And and so let's talk you've been on the show
1:45:36
Speaker 1: before talking about in the cut updated because you mentioned
1:45:39
Speaker 1: Andrew Stone and Just Stone, who's crazy by the way,
1:45:41
Speaker 1: in real life and on this TV show. You know,
1:45:44
Speaker 1: if you don't know Andrew Stone and Stone crazy, Okay,
1:45:47
Speaker 1: a good crazy. That's my girl, my sister on the show.
1:45:55
Speaker 1: But let let me go back to to Bethley. Um,
1:45:59
Speaker 1: that is another one of those relationships that that you know,
1:46:02
Speaker 1: you you don't have those types of relationships in this business.
1:46:07
Speaker 1: Uh that often they come far and few between. Bentley
1:46:10
Speaker 1: is that dude who is groundbreaking for one and he
1:46:13
Speaker 1: never forgets somebody and you are a part of that
1:46:17
Speaker 1: that that family, that niche. But I worked with him
1:46:20
Speaker 1: many many years ago on Martin and everybody that is
1:46:23
Speaker 1: associated with our show has worked with him in the
1:46:28
Speaker 1: past and some capacity or another. Um, but it's a
1:46:32
Speaker 1: beautiful niche. Khalida Khalida Smith plays my my wife on
1:46:37
Speaker 1: the show. And many of you guys know Khalida from
1:46:41
Speaker 1: the Bernie Max Show. She played the wife on the
1:46:43
Speaker 1: Bernie Max Show. UM. John Marshall Jones, he was the
1:46:47
Speaker 1: father on A Smart Guy, UM, and he placed my
1:46:50
Speaker 1: side in the barbershop. And uh. Rounding out the cast
1:46:54
Speaker 1: is Ken Lawson, who my comperend from the Partners though,
1:47:00
Speaker 1: so we go that far back and that's my dude
1:47:03
Speaker 1: right there. I have worked with him for almost twenty
1:47:06
Speaker 1: five years and I have never seen this cat come
1:47:10
Speaker 1: in mad, angry, upset or what have you. Um, you know,
1:47:15
Speaker 1: always a good vibe and or you know, just um
1:47:18
Speaker 1: and and if he does, we don't know it. Right,
1:47:21
Speaker 1: Let's put it out, you know, I said, guy delivers
1:47:27
Speaker 1: the line to professional and uh, but I got I
1:47:30
Speaker 1: got I gotta bring up Lara Hayes now Miss Laura.
1:47:35
Speaker 1: She is hilarious on the show that that's my girl
1:47:40
Speaker 1: right there, but she kind of ground to everybody and
1:47:44
Speaker 1: just this is the stuff that you don't see from
1:47:46
Speaker 1: Laura on the show is some of the funniest is
1:47:51
Speaker 1: But anyway, Um, so it's a great cast. Also Dorian
1:47:56
Speaker 1: Brnand who plays uh Kalitau's sidekick in her beauty salon.
1:48:03
Speaker 1: But it's a wonderful cast. Everybody has been in the
1:48:06
Speaker 1: business for umpteen years and so we have to, um
1:48:11
Speaker 1: have that foundation we've all worked together before. Because we
1:48:15
Speaker 1: do thirteen episodes in eleven days, third episodes in eleven days. Yeah,
1:48:21
Speaker 1: it is. It is a killer, is it? Long? Are
1:48:24
Speaker 1: the days where we have well week to shoot an
1:48:27
Speaker 1: appisode you know in front of yes, yes, yeah, in
1:48:31
Speaker 1: front of the audience, live audience, not cranking this out.
1:48:36
Speaker 1: I have anywhere from ten to uh seventeen scenes a day, um,
1:48:42
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's long hours. But we already
1:48:44
Speaker 1: have that foundation, um, and everybody's professional, so we're we're
1:48:49
Speaker 1: able to you know, crank it out and get it done.
1:48:52
Speaker 1: Anything enables me to do a lot of other things. Um,
1:48:55
Speaker 1: you know for the rest of the year. We just
1:48:58
Speaker 1: finished our seventh season. Awesome, awesome. Then some of the
1:49:01
Speaker 1: guests got the girl Little Nell coming on the show
1:49:04
Speaker 1: this year. If anybody saw Dollarmite is my main it's
1:49:07
Speaker 1: my name. God, just Little Nell is one of those.
1:49:11
Speaker 1: The fact that you have Little Nail and Lord Hayes
1:49:14
Speaker 1: on the set at the same time, it had to
1:49:16
Speaker 1: be Yeah, it's crazy, you have to separate them and
1:49:20
Speaker 1: like a little kid, but just a comedy. I mean
1:49:24
Speaker 1: they throughout the script basically with it, you know. And
1:49:30
Speaker 1: that's why listen, let's just back up and tell people
1:49:32
Speaker 1: a little bit of history about ben Levans. BN Levin
1:49:34
Speaker 1: was created The Mardern Show, so he's used to working
1:49:37
Speaker 1: with a star who improvs. He created the Jamie Fox Show,
1:49:42
Speaker 1: so he's used to working with another star who improv
1:49:44
Speaker 1: so we and comedians, so he's used to working in
1:49:47
Speaker 1: an environment of trusting these individuals. So when so when
1:49:52
Speaker 1: Dorian says, you know, they all scripted, they throughout the script,
1:49:55
Speaker 1: that's a good thing because he's allowing them to do
1:49:58
Speaker 1: their thing and bring the best funny possible and trusting
1:50:00
Speaker 1: the ability to pull it off. That's awesome. That's awesome,
1:50:03
Speaker 1: That's what I said. He know, he knows all of us.
1:50:06
Speaker 1: We have incredible writers who write for us as uh people, um,
1:50:12
Speaker 1: not just actors, um you know, our characters or whatever.
1:50:16
Speaker 1: But they know what Dorian strengths are and so they'll
1:50:19
Speaker 1: incorporate that in the script. So what we try to
1:50:22
Speaker 1: do is get what they put on paper first and
1:50:26
Speaker 1: then gets this opportunity the Just and seven and you
1:50:33
Speaker 1: know some of that stuff is the funniest stuff. Awesome.
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