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Louisiana Moves to Castrate Child Molesters · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Let me just start off by saying, it's amazing what
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Speaker 1: happens when you get a Republican governor like Governor Landry
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Speaker 1: in Louisiana. He is throwing down and paying off on
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Speaker 1: many of his campaign promises right away. How big of
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Speaker 1: a campaign promise. Well, if you are a child molestor,
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Speaker 1: you better pay attention because it is game on, especially
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Speaker 1: in light of what we've seen with illegal immigrants from
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Speaker 1: around the world who are now assaulting and attacking and
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Speaker 1: killing young children in this country, whether it's a thirteen
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Speaker 1: year old in New York City or the twelve year
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Speaker 1: old that was thrown into the bayou in Texas this
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Speaker 1: week after they were assaulted sexually, and then in Texas the.
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Speaker 2: Young girl was murdered.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk more about that coming up in
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Speaker 1: a moment, but Louisiana says you better not pull that there.
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Speaker 2: Louisiana now becomes.
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Speaker 1: The first state in America to allow surgical castration as
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Speaker 1: a punishment for child molesters.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Louisiana says they're proud to become the first state where
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Speaker 1: judges can order offenders guilty of certain sex crimes against
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Speaker 1: children to undergo surgical castration under a bill that has
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Speaker 1: been signed into law by the Republican Governor Jeff Landry
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. While the punishment of surgical castration is used
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Speaker 1: in other countries that are known for harsher criminal sanctions,
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Speaker 1: including the Chez Republic in Nigeria, it will be.
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Speaker 2: New in the US.
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Speaker 1: The Governor's office confirmed to the Associated Press on Friday
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Speaker 1: that Landry had signed the bill and it is now
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Speaker 1: going to be law now. Proponents of the Louisiana law,
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Speaker 1: which takes effect August first, hope the new possible punishment
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Speaker 1: will deter people from committing sex crimes against children. Opponents
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Speaker 1: argue that it is quote cruel and unusual punishment in
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Speaker 1: violation of the US Constitution. They say it well, for
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Speaker 1: sure face legal challenges. What's amazing to me is the
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Speaker 1: opponents of this who argue that it's cruel and unusual
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Speaker 1: punishment to castrate people that have been convicted of committing
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Speaker 1: sex crimes against children. Wouldn't you first argue that it's
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Speaker 1: cruel and unusual punishment to commit sex crimes against children.
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Speaker 1: If you're the one that's defending these sexual predators child molesters,
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Speaker 1: you're on the wrong side of history. In my opinion,
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any gray area here. Now, this
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Speaker 1: legislation gives Luisiana judges the option to sendence someone to
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Speaker 1: surgical castration after the person had been convicted of certain
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Speaker 1: aggravated sex crimes.
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Speaker 2: Now, I want you to think about this.
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Speaker 1: The opponents argue that it is cruel and usual punishment
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Speaker 1: to punish the person who committed these aggravated sexual crimes.
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Speaker 2: What does that include?
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Speaker 1: It includes rape, it includes incest, it includes molestation against
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Speaker 1: a child under the age of thirteen. Here's the other
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Speaker 1: point that needs to be made. Louisiana right now has
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Speaker 1: two two hundred and twenty four people in prison for
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Speaker 1: these heinous crimes. Now, the law can be applied only
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Speaker 1: to those who have convicted a crime on or after
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Speaker 1: August the one of twenty twenty four, when the law
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Speaker 1: goes into effect. So, in other words, of those that
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Speaker 1: are in prison before August first, who been convicted before
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Speaker 1: August first, twenty twenty four, they would not be retroactively
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Speaker 1: castrated for these crimes. In other words, the tw two
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Speaker 1: and twenty four people in prison that are under these
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Speaker 1: criminal categories that have been charged and been convicted, they
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Speaker 1: will not be castrated or have the even opportunity to
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Speaker 1: be castrated because they've already been convicted in the past. Now,
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Speaker 1: a handful of states, including Louisiana, California, Florida, and Texas,
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Speaker 1: have laws allowing for chemical castration for those guilty of
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Speaker 1: certain sex crimes. In some of those states, offenders can
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Speaker 1: opt for the surgical procedure if they prefer, but no
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Speaker 1: other state allows judges to impose surgical castration outright. That
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Speaker 1: according to the National Conference of State Legislators now in Louisiana,
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Speaker 1: which for sixteen years has allowed judges to order chemical
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Speaker 1: castration of people convicted of certain sex crimes against children,
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Speaker 1: that punishment, unfortunately, in my opinion and statistically, is rarely used.
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Speaker 1: Chemical castration uses medications that block disastrum production to decrease
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Speaker 1: sex drive. Surgical castration is a much more invasive procedure
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Speaker 1: that involves the removal of both testicles or ovaries. An
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Speaker 1: offender quote who fails to appear or refuses to undergo
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Speaker 1: surgical castration after judge orders the procedure could also be
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Speaker 1: hit with a failure to comply charge and face an
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Speaker 1: additional three to five years in prison based on the
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Speaker 1: bill's language as it's read now. The bill re also
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Speaker 1: received overwhelming support and then overwhelming approval in both the
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Speaker 1: GOP dominated chambers. Now, State Senator Regina Burrow, who is
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Speaker 1: a Democrat, actually authored this legislation, which is incredible. Now,
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Speaker 1: her colleagues and the Democratic Party were the ones that
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Speaker 1: mainly came out against it, voting, No, we are talking
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Speaker 1: about babies who are being violated by someone, is what Burrow,
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Speaker 1: a Democrat, said during an April committee meeting. She then
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Speaker 1: went on to say this is inexcusable, aim into that.
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Speaker 1: Proponents of the measures argue that the punishment is just
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Speaker 1: for horrific crimes against children. Critics the laugh the Democrats,
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Speaker 1: who defend the criminals more than the law abiding citizens
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Speaker 1: or the babies that are being sexually assaulted, argue that
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Speaker 1: the states should focus on the rehabilitation of those guilty
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Speaker 1: of such crimes and effort to lower recidivism rates. These
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Speaker 1: crazies actually believe you can rehabilitate a monster who rapes, sexually, assaults,
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Speaker 1: or abuses infants one year olds, two year olds, three
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Speaker 1: year olds, four year olds, five year olds, six years olds.
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Speaker 1: The list goes on and on those that clearly cannot
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Speaker 1: defend themselves. Others wonder if more states may look at
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Speaker 1: adopting a similar law to Louisiana, and I say they
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Speaker 1: should do it quickly. I think there's a no brainer
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Speaker 1: here now. The US has decided that retributed punishment an
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Speaker 1: eye for an eye as cruel and unusual. Is what
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Speaker 1: a philosophy professor at Elmhurst University said about this new
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Speaker 1: move in Louisiana. That's how you know, by the way,
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Speaker 1: you're doing the right thing. If a philosophy professor at
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Speaker 1: Elmhurst University is saying it's wrong, you know you're doing
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Speaker 1: it right.
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Speaker 2: Quote.
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Speaker 1: We don't rape the rapists, we don't cut off the
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Speaker 1: hands of thieves in this country. Well, if you cross
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Speaker 1: the line with a child and sexually assault them, I
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Speaker 1: absolutely have no problem with castrating you. The legislation, by
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Speaker 1: the way, is one of several bills signed by Landry
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Speaker 1: this week, including a measure allowing law enforcement to jail
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Speaker 1: people under the US illegally. That's similar to the Texas
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Speaker 1: Law and other laws that, of course, are going to
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Speaker 1: face legal challenges from Democrats. Republican states, and Democratic President
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden have been fighting over the border issue, and
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned a moment ago, many illegal immigrants who
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Speaker 1: are now in this country are coming in and committing
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Speaker 1: heinous crimes against children. We have, unfortunately, multiple miners who
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Speaker 1: have been raped and beaten, strangled to death and left
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Speaker 1: in bayous and parks in this country in the last day.
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Speaker 2: It is disgusting.
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Speaker 1: It is pure evil, and these individuals deserve to not
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Speaker 1: only get the death penalty in my opinion, but at
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Speaker 1: the bare minimum, they should absolutely be castrated. I say
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Speaker 1: kudos to Governor Landry. I hope that other states will
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Speaker 1: follow suit. They're going to watch the legal challenges closely,
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Speaker 1: probably learn specifically from those legal challenges. Okay, that's number one.
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Speaker 1: And not only are they going to learn from these
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Speaker 1: legal challenges, but there's something else that I think they're
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Speaker 1: going to do. They're then going to follow suit and
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Speaker 1: make their bills even uffer to be fought legally. That's
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Speaker 1: just a really really, really, really really smart move. Let
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Speaker 1: me also just say this as well, because I think
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Speaker 1: this is incredibly important that you understand this. Take all
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Speaker 1: the money out of it now, and you go back
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Speaker 1: to what we're witnessing when it comes to violent crime.
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Speaker 2: In this country.
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Speaker 1: All right, you look at violent crime that is happening
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Speaker 1: now in this country by illegal immigrants. This is the
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Speaker 1: border crisis now in everyone's city, there was an illegal
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Speaker 1: immigrant suspect or i should say suspects now that took
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Speaker 1: a twelve year old girl that lived in the same
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Speaker 1: apartment complex, raped her, strangled her.
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Speaker 2: To death, and threw her in the by you in Houston.
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Speaker 1: This week, The New York Post also telling another story
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Speaker 1: of a migrant charged with the murder of an twelve
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Speaker 1: year old who was and the murderer was a man
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Speaker 1: released into the US just weeks ago. Now you go
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Speaker 1: back to the police in Houston, they've arrested not one,
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Speaker 1: but two migrants from Venezuela who were here legally for
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Speaker 1: the murder of a twelve year old. A twelve year
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Speaker 1: old by the name of Jocelyn, who was lured away
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Speaker 1: from her home and then strangled to death, raped and
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Speaker 1: dumped in the bayou. One of the suspects crossed the
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Speaker 1: border illegally less than a month before the shocking murder
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Speaker 1: and was released into the US after claiming he was
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Speaker 1: afraid for his life if he was sent back to
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Speaker 1: his home country. Sources have now told the Post Martinez
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Speaker 1: was twenty one and Ramos, twenty six, were charged Thursday
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Speaker 1: with capital murder. An illegal immigrant from Ecuador who was
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Speaker 1: arresting connection with the sexual assault of a thirteen year
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Speaker 1: old girl in New York City admitted that he filmed
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Speaker 1: the attack and he became more comfortable with the sexual
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Speaker 1: assault during the filming of the attack. The New York
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Speaker 1: Post the illegal immigrant this is another murder suspected in
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Speaker 1: Rachel Morin, the mother of five, who was murdered, went
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Speaker 1: on a month's long terror spree. In fact, in a
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Speaker 1: statement to Fox News, Ice confirmed that the Salvadoran illegal
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Speaker 1: alien charged with the rape and the murder of Rachel
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Speaker 1: Morin entered the US as a quote got away on
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Speaker 1: or around February thirteenth, twenty twenty three, near El Paso, Texas.
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Speaker 1: Prior to that, he was caught by border patrol three
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Speaker 1: separate times in a matter of days.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say that again.
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Speaker 1: He was caught by border patrol trying to break into
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Speaker 1: this country three separate times in a matter of days.
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Speaker 2: He was then expelled back to Mexico. What did he do?
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Speaker 1: Took his nap and then did it again. He was
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Speaker 1: expelled to Mexico via Title forty two. Each time, we
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Speaker 1: know the timeline because he's in the system. Once, on
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Speaker 1: January the nineteenth to twenty twenty three, he tried to
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Speaker 1: cross into America in New Mexico. That didn't work, so
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Speaker 1: fast forward to January the thirty first. He then passed
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Speaker 1: again near El Paso, Texas. That didn't work. We caught him,
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Speaker 1: We sent him back. Then on a third time in
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Speaker 1: February the sixth, so six seven days later, he went
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Speaker 1: back to New Mexico and did it again.
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Speaker 2: We caught him.
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Speaker 3: Then.
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Speaker 1: Then on his fourth try, about a week after that,
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Speaker 1: he was able to slip into the US near El
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Speaker 1: Paso without apprehension.
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Speaker 2: That's what we call a gottaway.
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Speaker 1: What's even more sick is the fact that Democrats are
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Speaker 1: actuallyually laughing about the fact that this is happening this country,
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Speaker 1: and laughing when we talk about people that are dying.
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Speaker 1: I want you to listen to congresswoman who is JPL
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Speaker 1: who is sitting there with Joy Read on MSNBC.
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Speaker 2: And they laugh about kids being killed. Listen carefully, great citizens,
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Speaker 2: but there's a lot of fearmonger.
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of fear ustury.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know, and I think it's kind of remarkable
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Speaker 5: that the polls I look at the national polls, actually
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Speaker 5: Americans still support immigrants. Yeah, support immigration. It's just that
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Speaker 5: they would like to see a system that actually works
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Speaker 5: and that can keep them safe and secure. And all
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Speaker 5: of us want that. And you know, I've been working
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Speaker 5: on this issue for twenty years before I came to Congress,
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Speaker 5: in the streets as an activist.
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Speaker 4: Me let me tell you, this is one of the
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Speaker 4: reasons that people have these sort of thinking, this sort
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Speaker 4: of thinking. Here's the three cable networks reporting of this
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Speaker 4: is our banner said soon Biden announces legal protections for
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Speaker 4: undocumented spouses a citizen. CNN's banner said, Biden announced his
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Speaker 4: new protections for some undocumented spouses. Here was Fox's banner.
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Speaker 4: Migrant arrested for raping thirteen year old news. Yes, and
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Speaker 4: so I think that's part of the problem is that
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Speaker 4: you have.
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Speaker 2: A lot migrant.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear this, they say, we get
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Speaker 1: it right, right, We're just talking about Biden announcing a
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Speaker 1: new policy protecting undocumented workers and spouses that would be
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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants from US deportation. This is him trying to
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Speaker 1: buy votes for November. And they say, look, Sandam, We've
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Speaker 1: got it right. MSNBC our banner's got it right. And
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Speaker 1: then there's the fear mongering at Fox News. Now Fox's
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Speaker 1: actually telling the real story. Fox News is telling the story.
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Speaker 1: Listen again to how they laugh at the headline here
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Speaker 1: of Fox News and mock the fact that Fox News
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Speaker 1: is telling you that a thirteen year old girl has
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Speaker 1: been murdered and raped.
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Speaker 4: Migrant arrested for raping thirteen year old news. Yes, and
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Speaker 4: so I think that's part of the problem, is exactly.
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Speaker 1: Migrant arrested for killing a thirteen year old And they
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Speaker 1: both laugh. They are laughing at the fact that there
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Speaker 1: are children that are dying.
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Speaker 2: They actually think it is funny.
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Speaker 1: They think it is humorous that a child has died
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Speaker 1: and that they're catching them and then they are letting
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Speaker 1: them go.
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Speaker 2: They think it's funny. It is pure evil.
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Speaker 1: Now I played for you a moment ago the clip
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Speaker 1: of Democratic Representative Japaul and Joy Reid laughing about the
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Speaker 1: rape of a thirteen year old girl. Now I'm going
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Speaker 1: to play this for you again so that you can
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Speaker 1: hear they're acting like illegal immigrants aren't actually doing any
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Speaker 1: major heinous crimes.
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Speaker 2: That is a lie.
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Speaker 1: Listen to them talk about the headline on Fox News
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Speaker 1: channel where they talk about a thirty year old that
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Speaker 1: was raped and murdered in New York.
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Speaker 2: Listen, since there's.
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Speaker 5: A lot of fear mongering, there's a lot of fear usury, absolutely,
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Speaker 5: you know, And I think it's kind of remarkable that
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Speaker 5: the polls I look at the national polls, actually Americans
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Speaker 5: still support immigrants. Ye support immigration. It's just that they
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Speaker 5: would like to see a system that actually works and
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Speaker 5: that can keep them safe secure, and all of us
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Speaker 5: want that. And you know, I've been working on this
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Speaker 5: issue for twenty years before I came to Congress, in
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Speaker 5: the streets as an activist.
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Speaker 4: Let me let me tell you this is one of
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Speaker 4: the reasons that people have these sort of thinking, this
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Speaker 4: sort of thinking. Here's the three cable networks reporting of
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Speaker 4: this is our banner said soon Biden announces legal protections
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Speaker 4: for undocumented spouses a citizens. CNN's banner said, Biden announces
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Speaker 4: new protections for some undocumented spouses. Here was Fox's banner.
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Speaker 4: Migrant arrested for raping thirteen year old in years Yes
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Speaker 4: and so I think that's part of the problem, that
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Speaker 4: you have a lot of the fear maker.
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Speaker 5: Exactly, and that we know that the when people have
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Speaker 5: economic insecured.
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Speaker 1: So it's a joke, now, this is haha, funny, funny, right,
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Speaker 1: Like this is hilarious.
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Speaker 2: Oh look how funny it is.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're fear mongering over there at Fox News
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Speaker 1: Channel because it's just so funny.
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Speaker 2: Right, It's just this is just a it's a joke.
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Speaker 2: Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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Speaker 1: Let's go back to what happened in Houston and this
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Speaker 1: migrant charged with the murder of a twelve year old
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Speaker 1: and the story behind this. This person was released into
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Speaker 1: the US just weeks ago. Police in Houston have arrested
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Speaker 1: not one, but two migrants from Venezuela for the murder
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Speaker 1: of a twelve year old Jocelyn, who was lured away
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Speaker 1: from her home, then strangled, raped and dumped in a
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Speaker 1: by you. One of the suspects crossed the border legally
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Speaker 1: less than a month before the shocking murder and was
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Speaker 1: released into the US after claiming he feared for his
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Speaker 1: life if he was sent back to his home country.
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Speaker 2: Sources of now to the Post. So this is the
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Speaker 2: lie they know how to lie, right.
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Speaker 1: They all come in and they seek asilum because they're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: if I go back, they're gonna kill me my host country, Venezuela.
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Speaker 2: So I can't go back, so therefore I got to
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Speaker 2: stay here.
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Speaker 1: Martinez twenty one Ramos twenty six, were charged Thursday with
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Speaker 1: capital murder, capital murder, Folks capital murder. Department of Homeland
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Speaker 1: Security sources said that Ramos crossed in El Paso, Texas,
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Speaker 1: on May the twenty eighth. He was released soon after
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Speaker 1: his interaction with border agents. He told authorities that he
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Speaker 1: planned to live with his cousin Houston until his quarter
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Speaker 1: appearance in July. Agents put a GPS tracker on Ramos,
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Speaker 1: which was set to monitor his location for twenty one days.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one days.
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Speaker 1: Sources said, obviously that had nothing to do with this.
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Speaker 1: And again they're trying to find this little girl. They
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Speaker 1: know that she's gone, and here it is.
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Speaker 6: The mayor was with me on Tuesday night late as
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Speaker 6: we were going through and looking to see if we
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Speaker 6: could find anything else in The teams were out there
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Speaker 6: and they were scouring every potential video feed and they
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Speaker 6: were talking to everybody possible that might have seen something
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Speaker 6: or hurt something, and their hard work paid off because
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Speaker 6: we were able to find video and get trace the
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Speaker 6: movements of our suspects and are of Jocelyn and all
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Speaker 6: the way to the point of where she was murdered
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Speaker 6: and left in a bayou in the water.
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Speaker 1: They dumped her body, They raped her, they used her,
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Speaker 1: they abused her, they strangled her, and they dumped her
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Speaker 1: body in the bayou, thinking that was fun. Onto the
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Speaker 1: next The federal government says, these GPS tracker on Ramos,
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Speaker 1: which was set to monitors location for twenty one days
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Speaker 1: right until his courtinate. I guess what happened there. It's
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Speaker 1: unclear whether he was wearing the tracker when he was murdered.
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Speaker 1: The second suspect crossed the border in Alpaso Martinez on
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Speaker 1: March the fourteenth. It was released where they courtinated in August.
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Speaker 1: He also had a GPS monitor removed from the program
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Speaker 1: in May, according to the sources, Right, so, oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: we got trackers on them and then.
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Speaker 2: We take them off.
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Speaker 1: Investigators identify the suspects from surveillance footage after they were
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Speaker 1: seen following Jocelyn as she walked into a local convenience store.
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Speaker 1: Her body was found in a swampy creek on Monday
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Speaker 1: by a Houston resident who happened to be driving by.
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Speaker 1: She thought the girl was a floating mannequin at first,
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Speaker 1: a floating mannequin. Let me play this for you from
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Speaker 1: the local news ABC thirteen in Houston covering this and again,
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Speaker 1: this is the reality of where we are with this
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Speaker 1: violent crime. You know, remember back in sixteen when Trump
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Speaker 1: said they're sending their worst. Many of these countries are
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Speaker 1: sending their worst. These people that are coming here, there's rapists,
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Speaker 1: they're human sigglers, they're drug traffickers, they're murders, they're sexual offenders.
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Speaker 1: And then everybody said, oh, he's racist, he hates Mexicans.
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Speaker 1: That's no, that's not the case at all. He was
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Speaker 1: just telling you the truth, and everything he said has
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Speaker 1: been turned into very clear reality.
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Speaker 7: Last moments, a twelve year old jocelin Nngree was seen
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Speaker 7: alive outside of a seven eleven before her little body
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Speaker 7: was found in a creek in the greens Point area.
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Speaker 7: New at six ABC thirteenth Book Taylor spoke with the
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Speaker 7: girl's mother as detectives look for two people they say
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Speaker 7: may be connected to her death.
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Speaker 8: In the final moments before her murder. Twelve year old
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Speaker 8: Jocelyn Nungari is captured outside of seven eleven with the
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Speaker 8: man police are trying to find. Her mom spoke to.
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Speaker 9: Us, She's meant to be here, She's supposed to be here.
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Speaker 8: Police ay the twelve year old girl snuck out of
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Speaker 8: her home after ten pm Sunday night. On Monday morning,
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Speaker 8: her mom traced her cell phone to the skatepark. Her
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Speaker 8: body found in a creek nearby on West Rinkin Road.
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Speaker 8: According to the Medical Examiner's Office, she was strangled to death.
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Speaker 8: Houston police are looking to speak to the two people
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Speaker 8: who were seen talking to her, and employee says she
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Speaker 8: was a regular cuss to her. Wearing a black T
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Speaker 8: shirt and jean She's seen outside on her phone, pacing
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Speaker 8: back and forth. Mayor John Whitmeyer says she was on
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Speaker 8: the phone with her thirteen year old boyfriend, who told
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Speaker 8: investigators he heard two adults in the background.
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Speaker 9: She does not want to be aggressive and be like,
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Speaker 9: stop talking to me, I don't know you. She's very
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Speaker 9: shy and very quiet and keeps to herself a lot,
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Speaker 9: and she just I felt like she maybe didn't want
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Speaker 9: to be rude and was just trying to you know.
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Speaker 9: That's why she kept pacing back and forth and walking
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Speaker 9: and just trying to safely get away from the situation.
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Speaker 8: She's pleading with the community for help, and this is
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Speaker 8: how she wants her daughter remembered.
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Speaker 9: She had aspirations for life. She just loved for everyone
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Speaker 9: and was so kind, the greatest friend you could ever
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Speaker 9: think of.
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Speaker 2: Brooke Taylor.
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Speaker 8: ABC thirteen Eyewitness News.
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Speaker 1: You listen to that mom, and this is a crime
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Speaker 1: that should have never happened, should have never ever happened,
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Speaker 1: and yet it did.
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Speaker 2: Right, this should have never happened.
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Speaker 1: This is the problem that we have is that this
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Speaker 1: is happening, and we witness it happen, and no one
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Speaker 1: seems to want to stop this from happening.
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Speaker 2: In the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 1: This is an election year issue and it's putting American
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Speaker 1: lives at risk.
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Speaker 7: The murder of twelve year old Jocelyn Nungari has angered
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Speaker 7: many people in our area, including the mayor of Houston. Tonight,
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Speaker 7: he's got a message for the justice system now that
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Speaker 7: two people have been arrested.
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Speaker 2: ABC thirteen's Luke Jones is at the Harris County jail,
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Speaker 2: where the suspects could appear in court overnight.
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Speaker 10: It turns out these guys were living less than a
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Speaker 10: mile from where Nungary was strangled and her body found dumped. Today,
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Speaker 10: the mayor making it a point to say he doesn't
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Speaker 10: think they should be released unbonded. Brandy's Lopez says he
23:51
Speaker 10: pointed the men's apartment out to police.
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Speaker 2: Construction workers, he says from.
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Speaker 10: Other countries, one tried making a run for it, but
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Speaker 10: both ended up in cuff. Twenty one year old Johan
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Speaker 10: Jose Vngel Martinez a twenty six year old Franklin Jose Pineramos.
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Speaker 3: The rest have's taken place, the charge has been filed.
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Speaker 3: Now we want the justice system to do this job.
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Speaker 3: If there was ever a circumstance where you do not
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Speaker 3: give someone bail, this is it.
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Speaker 10: Police say they used surveillance video to piece together a
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Speaker 10: timeline of the men's whereabouts. They were first seen leaving
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Speaker 10: a restaurant Sunday night, then run into Hungarian Kirkandaal and
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Speaker 10: walk with her to a convenience store. Just after midnight Monday.
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Speaker 10: The three leave and are seen heading under this bridge
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Speaker 10: sometime after one am, before the two men emerge alone
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Speaker 10: and head home Hungary's body discovered hours later around six am.
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Speaker 6: We have performed a center submitted for a special assault
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Speaker 6: kit to be performed.
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Speaker 1: I look at this and you hear him say, we
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Speaker 1: have this sexual assault kit. They knew what they were doing,
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Speaker 1: They pre planned it. They found the twelve year old
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Speaker 1: girl at night at a seven eleven after she snuck
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Speaker 1: out of her house, and they knew what they were doing.
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Speaker 1: They knew it, They understood what they were doing here.
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Speaker 1: I am incredibly frustrated to see that this is happening.
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Speaker 1: And when it's happening, you have this just numbness. You
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Speaker 1: go back to the case that I talked about earlier,
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Speaker 1: where you have another child that was killed in New
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Speaker 1: York City. This migrant there was released into this country.
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Speaker 1: We knew that he was going to be released. It
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Speaker 1: was no problem for the federal government to say, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna release her again.
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Speaker 2: This twelve year old girl, by the way, she played
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Speaker 2: the cello in school. She had braces, she was twelve,
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Speaker 2: she looked twelve. They knew this was a twelve year old.
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Speaker 2: They didn't care. I want to know what crimes they've
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Speaker 2: committed back in their host country. I want to know
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Speaker 2: what their rap sheet looks like there. I want to
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Speaker 2: know why we're sitting here having this conversation right now.
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Speaker 2: You look at the Houston Police Department and they're angry.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is there's well over a million illegal
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Speaker 1: immigrants in Houston. This unfortunately, will happen again. It's going
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Speaker 1: to it is going to happen again, over and over again.
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Speaker 1: We see these crimes happen, and every single time, the
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Speaker 1: same exact thing happens.
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Speaker 2: Let's go by the way to back to this story.
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Speaker 2: In New York. You have an illegal alien who.
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Speaker 1: Allegedly raped a thirteen year old girl in New York City,
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Speaker 1: and it just got We're now being told much worse.
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Speaker 1: An illegal immigrant from Ecuador who was arrested in connection
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Speaker 1: with a sexual assault of a thirteen year old girl
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Speaker 1: in New York City admitted he filmed the attack as
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Speaker 1: he became more comfortable during the attack. This twenty five
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Speaker 1: year old illegal immigrant, Christian is his name, was taken
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Speaker 1: to custody this week. Charged against him are pending. He
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Speaker 1: reportedly entered the United States of America for the first
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Speaker 1: time in twenty twenty one. Last week, the thirteen year
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Speaker 1: old girl and a thirteen year old boy were held
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Speaker 1: at knife point by this individual with a machete style
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Speaker 1: blade and tied up when the girl was reportedly assaulted
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Speaker 1: by him. The NYPD offered a ten thousand dollars reward
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Speaker 1: for information leading to the illegal aliens arrest. The New
27:28
Speaker 1: York Post noted that they that a group of Good
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Speaker 1: Samaritans located him and called him out as a rapist
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Speaker 1: before smacking him around and tying him up with a
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Speaker 1: belt as they waited for the cops to arrive. Reportedly,
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Speaker 1: no one has come forward to claim the reward. According
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Speaker 1: to multiple reports, he confessed the cops he recorded the attack.
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Speaker 1: The chilling admission quote by Christian broke the silence in
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Speaker 1: an otherwise hushed court hearing in which he was arraigned
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Speaker 1: on charges of rape, predatory sexual assault, kidnapping, and a
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Speaker 1: rap of other felonies from this shocking June thirteenth attack
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Speaker 1: in a park. I was nervous at first, he said,
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Speaker 1: then got comfortable and recorded it, he admitted in the
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Speaker 1: videotape statement. Prosecutor sat in Queen's Criminal Court, drawing well
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Speaker 1: shock from the audience in the courtroom. The man claimed
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Speaker 1: that he saw the two thirteen year olds having sexual relations.
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Speaker 1: When he approached them, he used the knife to cut
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Speaker 1: off her clothes. After he committed the sexual assault, he
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Speaker 1: stole both of the team's phones and then fled.
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Speaker 2: I went to buy drugs afterwards, he said. The two
28:44
Speaker 2: teams sought help at a nearby school and provide the
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Speaker 2: NYPD sketch artist with an incredible detail of the individual.
28:52
Speaker 2: It is amazing that from what they went through, their identification,
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Speaker 2: their memory of the tattoos, the braces, the queen sister
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Speaker 2: attorney said, all of which was on point. The New
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Speaker 2: York Daily News reported that the man entered the US
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Speaker 2: through Eagle Pass, Texas in June twenty twenty one with
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Speaker 2: a three year old child. He was reportedly staying in
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Speaker 2: a single room occupancy in a queen's basement instead of
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Speaker 2: return to Ecuador like he was supposed to, so another
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Speaker 2: one that was supposed to leave. After he crossed in
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Speaker 2: the US, he lost his immigration status and was required
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Speaker 2: to return to Ecuador, but he never did. He currently
29:27
Speaker 2: has a warrant out for his arrest by immigration authorities.
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Speaker 2: He has an ex wife and two children, according to prosecutors.
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Speaker 2: After reports broke that the man record the attack, Georgia
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Speaker 2: Republican representative Mike Collins suggests the illegal alien received the
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Speaker 2: death penalty. Can't disagree with that.
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29:53
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Speaker 1: what I just did.
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Speaker 2: I'll see you back here tomorrow. Yeah,