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Dr. Ian Smith, Gary Owen, Megan Eddings & Nicole Roberts Jones · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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Speaker 1: Rashean McDonald recognized that we all have different definitions of success.
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Speaker 1: For some succisable paycheck, Mine is helping people wake up
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Speaker 1: stop tripping over small challenges and prepare to rise above
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Speaker 1: the bigger obstacles that life will present to you. That's
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Speaker 1: what my guests do on this show. They bring these
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Speaker 1: nuggets of information that will motivate you. Take those nuggets
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Speaker 1: from these interviews and use apply them to your life
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Speaker 1: and keep winning. My next guest is a true winner,
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Speaker 1: longtime friend, Dr Ian Smith, who was the author of
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Speaker 1: many number one New York Times bestselling books Shred, The
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Speaker 1: Revolutionary Diet, Super Shred, The Big Results, Died, Blasted, Sugar Out,
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Speaker 1: The Clean Twenty, The Ancient Nine, Cleaning, Lean and Leving.
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Speaker 1: Other books for Maize of copies in print. His newest book,
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Speaker 1: The Unspoken, That's by Ian K. Smith. The first and
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Speaker 1: his ass came MR Series when we released in October one,
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Speaker 1: but you can buy it right now. He's currently the
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Speaker 1: solo host This is the Big News, The Big News.
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Speaker 1: He's currently the solo host of the nationally semicated Emmy
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Speaker 1: Award winning television show The Doctors. He's gonna be on
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Speaker 1: stage by himself. As a longtime medical contributor to an
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Speaker 1: Emmy Award winning show. He's been on The Rachel Ray
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Speaker 1: Show many times recently please working the money making conversations.
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Speaker 1: Dr Ian Smith. Wow, that's that's quite an introduction. I
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Speaker 1: was trying to figure out who you're talking about. Hey, man,
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Speaker 1: when you have a career, I didn't even go all
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Speaker 1: the way back to the Jina jail, those days, towns days. Man,
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Speaker 1: when I first saw you a little skinny behind on TV,
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Speaker 1: smile and look at alert now man. Uh, you know
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Speaker 1: we've always crossed paths or TV. I remember in New
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Speaker 1: York when uh Steve and I Steve Harman I was
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Speaker 1: up in two thousand five. We crossed paths back then
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Speaker 1: and then came on the television show. And we've always
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Speaker 1: stayed in touch. And if you had projects are the
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Speaker 1: big state farm project power laws. That's that's when we
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Speaker 1: really reconnected, really seriously, really created our relationship. But it's
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Speaker 1: always have been about encouraging people to do better, to
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Speaker 1: be better. Talk about that as part. Why is that
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Speaker 1: such a strong mantra in your life? Dr and Smith, Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the reasons why I wanted to
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Speaker 1: become a physician so many years ago was because as
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Speaker 1: a young boy, I was really um impressed and inspired
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Speaker 1: by my own pediatrician. And I felt like my own
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Speaker 1: pediatrician really was trying to help me and make me
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Speaker 1: a better person and keep me healthy and give me
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Speaker 1: a great opportunity to maximize what I couldn't life. And
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Speaker 1: that really that really kind of um gave me the
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Speaker 1: seed to want to help people and to empower people.
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Speaker 1: I just thought it was so powerful that here was
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Speaker 1: a guy who had the ability, uh to really empower
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Speaker 1: me and change my life. And so I really wanted
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Speaker 1: to do that in my career. And you know, I've
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Speaker 1: chosen different ways to do that because listen, let's think
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Speaker 1: about this. At the end of the day, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: matter how famous you are, how rich you are, how
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Speaker 1: many oscars or Emmy's or Tony's or houses or cars
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Speaker 1: that stuff. At the end of the day, it really
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We all are going to make our transitional journey. Um,
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Speaker 1: and when you make Before you make that transitional journey,
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Speaker 1: you want to be able to say to yourself that
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Speaker 1: you fought the good fight, you did the best that
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Speaker 1: you could, and you try to do something to leave
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Speaker 1: a legacy to help others. And that's what I believe.
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Speaker 1: We're temporary custodians of this great earth. And you know,
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Speaker 1: greats before us, Maya Angelou Winston, Churchill, Picasso, I mean,
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Speaker 1: great to the greats, they all have had to take
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Speaker 1: this journey. And so while we still have breath in
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Speaker 1: us and our life is still vibrant, my recommendation for
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Speaker 1: people is to do the same thing, which is, you know,
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Speaker 1: my recommendation is to try to figure out what it
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Speaker 1: is that you could do to help others to make
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Speaker 1: the world a better place and leave a legacy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's nice to make a paycheck, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: It's nice to have materialistic things, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not shunning those things. But what I'm
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Speaker 1: saying is when you form you a priority list and
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Speaker 1: you take that landscape view of life, not the portrait view,
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Speaker 1: but the landscape view of life. When you do that,
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Speaker 1: you'll realize that those material goods and those particular assets
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Speaker 1: are way less important than the asset of life and
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Speaker 1: giving and experience. You know, it's important that you're saying
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Speaker 1: that the way you speak and articulate. You know, because
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Speaker 1: my mom recently made a transition, and I bring that
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Speaker 1: up on the show because I always felt that you
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Speaker 1: are important in my life. Or you have a book
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Speaker 1: out at the time called Last to Sugure Out, and
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Speaker 1: I interviewed you on the show and I went, man,
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Speaker 1: I love this book. I loved this book and I
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Speaker 1: took it home and I lived in the Lanta. My
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Speaker 1: mom was residing in Houston at the time. I said,
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Speaker 1: Mom and I took the Carrictankers. I said, I want
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Speaker 1: you to follow because it's a cookbook to it and
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Speaker 1: not only tells you what you should do, but it
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Speaker 1: also gives you recipes and what you should eat on
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Speaker 1: a daily basis. And we followed that, man, and it
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Speaker 1: really improved her health. Man, And and I want to
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Speaker 1: thank you for for providing that tool in my life
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Speaker 1: for me to give. Because you're helpless in your life,
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Speaker 1: especially when your parents get older. You don't either. There's
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Speaker 1: no there's no miracle pill to get it right. But
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Speaker 1: there are opportunities like that for people like you to
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Speaker 1: provide us with information or tools that can make our
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Speaker 1: lives better while we're still here. And you did that
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Speaker 1: for me my brother, and I want to say personally
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Speaker 1: thank you. I gotta tell you something. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: as a writer, which I do every day of my life,
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Speaker 1: as a writer and a content creator, you know I
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Speaker 1: work often in and in isolation and a vacuum, meaning
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Speaker 1: you know I'm at my computer, you know, at my
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Speaker 1: desk at three o'clock in the morning, two o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the morning. You know it's dark outside the families of sleep.
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Speaker 1: I got music on the radio, trying to keep up.
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Speaker 1: But you know, you work not really knowing whether or
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Speaker 1: not what you're creating is going to be impactful to someone.
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Speaker 1: But I work with the hope. I work with the
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Speaker 1: hope that even if one person can find a benefit
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Speaker 1: or feel like what I've written and created has changed
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Speaker 1: their life, whether it's in fiction or whether it's a
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Speaker 1: nonfictional health books, either one. If if it can impact
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Speaker 1: even just one life, it makes me feel like all
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Speaker 1: the time and the effort and the dedication was well
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Speaker 1: worth it. So you saying to me, and you told
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Speaker 1: me this before, but you're saying to me how that
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Speaker 1: book impacted your mother. That's exactly what my intention was.
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Speaker 1: My intention is to write things and to create things
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Speaker 1: for people so they can take it and immediately incorporated
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Speaker 1: in their lives and see a difference and hopefully, you know,
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Speaker 1: live better and live stronger, and live longer and live happier.
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Speaker 1: You know, and thank you for you know, being who
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Speaker 1: you are. The reason I shared that story with you,
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Speaker 1: because you're about to become, you know, the solo host
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Speaker 1: for the Thirteen Cities and of the of the Doctors
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Speaker 1: and sometimes I just want to let you know what
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Speaker 1: you do, what you've written, you know, and I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you know. We've been involved in other I feel life
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Speaker 1: changing events like the events we did with Stay Farm.
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Speaker 1: I felt that was life changing. You come on Street
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Speaker 1: Harvey Show talking about Shred, and I've seen you on
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Speaker 1: other shows, but I just want to hear from one
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Speaker 1: on one you you you had a positive effect in
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Speaker 1: my life. And and it was so important that I
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Speaker 1: tell you this because I allowed your book to be
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Speaker 1: part of my mom My Mama. You know what I'm
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Speaker 1: saying to my mama, not anybody my mama. And uh
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Speaker 1: and and and that's important for you to hear it
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Speaker 1: because you're about to go to a platform now where
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Speaker 1: it's a world stage, and you could you can keep
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Speaker 1: that little nugget in your head and say what I
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Speaker 1: do has relevancy because television can kind of die that
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Speaker 1: because it's entertainment. You know what I'm saying. And uh,
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Speaker 1: but I want to tell you something real fast. I'm
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Speaker 1: wanna tell you this. Listen, when I got this opportunity,
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Speaker 1: first of all, I'm very honored and privileged and grateful
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Speaker 1: for it. First of all, and I thank God for it.
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Speaker 1: But I wasn't even looking for and Rashan, You've been
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Speaker 1: in business long enough to know that sometimes when you're
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Speaker 1: not looking for something is when things come to you.
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Speaker 1: So you know, when I got the call or the
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Speaker 1: text actually to have the conversation about it, I was
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Speaker 1: on my knees and my garden sweat and dirty weating,
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Speaker 1: waiting my garden, and I got this text message from
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Speaker 1: a number I didn't even recognize saying to me, Hey,
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Speaker 1: dr Ian, we think we have a great opportunity we'd
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Speaker 1: like to talk to you about. And it ended up
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Speaker 1: being the executive producer of The Doctors. And you know,
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Speaker 1: after this conversation, she's explained to me the kind of
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Speaker 1: the changes they want to make to the show, and
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Speaker 1: they want to revamp it. They want to get rid
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Speaker 1: of the you know, they typically had an ensemble cast
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Speaker 1: of co host they want to get rid of that,
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Speaker 1: make it one or just two gos and Um, at
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Speaker 1: the end of the conversation, do you want to do it?
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Speaker 1: Just like that? So what do you think? Do you
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Speaker 1: want to do it? And I was like, yeah, of
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Speaker 1: course I want to do it. Uh, you know, but
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Speaker 1: but that being said, um, and thanks to Dr phil
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Speaker 1: and Jay McGraw, his son. They're the ones who owned
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Speaker 1: the show. Um. But you know what's interesting is this.
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Speaker 1: I tell you all that to say that we are
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Speaker 1: given opportunities in life, and those opportunities are not sometimes
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Speaker 1: frequent opportunities. And I think that people have to recognize
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Speaker 1: opportunities when they're given to them, because opportunities don't always
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Speaker 1: come and the way that you want them to come,
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Speaker 1: or that the way you immediately recognize. I'll never forget
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Speaker 1: sitting when we're doing a fifty million pound challenge. We
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Speaker 1: were in TEDD Jake's powder's house, we were in TEDD.
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Speaker 1: Jake's church and yep, and I'll never forget the part
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Speaker 1: of the sermon that he said. It has stuck with
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Speaker 1: me every since, and this is years now. He said,
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Speaker 1: God gives us blessings, but unfortunately a lot of people
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Speaker 1: don't recognize the blessings because they don't come in the
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Speaker 1: form that they prayed for them to come into. But
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Speaker 1: God has still sent them a blessing. They do, and
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Speaker 1: they don't recognize it. That was so powerful to me.
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Speaker 1: And I've told my family this many many times, that
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Speaker 1: you ask for things and that things may come to you,
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Speaker 1: but just because they don't come to you in the
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Speaker 1: perfect way that you asked for them, you're missing out. Well,
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Speaker 1: the same thing with opportunities. Opportunities come to you in
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Speaker 1: many shapes and sizes and fashions, and you have to
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Speaker 1: have your eyes open, your ears alert, and you your
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Speaker 1: senses ready to be able to take advantage of it.
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Speaker 1: This is a great opportunity for me. It's a national stage. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's the first time they've ever had a single host.
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Speaker 1: It's obviously I'm African American, right, so, uh now I'll
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Speaker 1: be the only African American male in daytime television hosting
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Speaker 1: a show. And I say that because the opportunities we
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Speaker 1: get are not very often. But when we get these opportunities,
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Speaker 1: we have to do the best we can to show
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Speaker 1: and put our best foot forward and basically represent. So
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Speaker 1: I gotta get on this stage and in the studio
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Speaker 1: and I got to represent and let people know that
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Speaker 1: we can do this, that I can do it. And
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Speaker 1: I just think it's very important. You know, let me
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Speaker 1: explain a little bit more about when the blessing doesn't
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Speaker 1: come the way you may have wanted it, because you
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Speaker 1: we all want our talk show. You've always said that,
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Speaker 1: you said in my office as your cargo, and I
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Speaker 1: want one with show. So you get this call, but
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Speaker 1: you get it during the middle of a pandemic. You
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Speaker 1: don't know if Hollywood gonna rekick off promotion, color production.
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Speaker 1: You don't know if it's going to be an audience.
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Speaker 1: And this is what he's saying when he's gotten this opportunity,
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Speaker 1: but it is not coming to him in the form
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Speaker 1: that he's prayed for. It's coming in a very remote
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Speaker 1: but unsure time, and so you have to make a
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Speaker 1: decision to realize this is a blessing, let me take
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Speaker 1: advantage of let me say yes and not walk away annoyed.
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Speaker 1: That is happening right now, that's what you're talking about,
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Speaker 1: right Dr Smith. You know this requires We moved the
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Speaker 1: set from l A. So the set is on the
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Speaker 1: Paramount lot. Typically the show has been there for twelve seasons.
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Speaker 1: It's now gonna be in Stanford. We have a brand
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Speaker 1: new set that's beautiful, it's awesome looking. But now it
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Speaker 1: requires me now to travel um to go shoot the shows.
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Speaker 1: And you know, listen, I'm the first one talking about
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Speaker 1: safety and dangers during the pandemic. So I had to
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Speaker 1: make a decision with my family about whether or not
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Speaker 1: this is something I should do, given that I would
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Speaker 1: have to travel for this, and I've been living in
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Speaker 1: a bubble for the last six months, so I've been
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Speaker 1: at home, i haven't traveled, i haven't been on anything
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Speaker 1: public for the last six months to protect myself, my
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Speaker 1: family and others. So so yeah, you're right. It came
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Speaker 1: at a time that was not ideal, given all that's
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Speaker 1: going on. But my wife said to me, you have
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Speaker 1: to do this because it's it's too big of an
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Speaker 1: opportunity and too big of a platform for you to
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Speaker 1: say no to. And yes, there is some risk to
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Speaker 1: us personally, but the pop the side of it, you
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Speaker 1: being able to give a voice to America or calming,
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Speaker 1: scientifically based voice about the facts of the pandemic, what
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Speaker 1: people can do, how you can inspire people. She said,
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Speaker 1: you have to do it. So you know that's a decision. Yes,
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Speaker 1: this is a blessing, and I'm going to take the
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm your host. Sean
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Speaker 1: McDonald in the medial conversation. You stuck out a little
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Speaker 1: thing that about guarding now doing it. I'm tell you something,
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Speaker 1: just a share of personal story for me. I broke
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Speaker 1: out free to me a little garden to doctor. I tomatoes,
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Speaker 1: sage man. I got the I got photos of tomatoes
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Speaker 1: and uh, hollapenia peppers. And it is and it's gonna
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Speaker 1: become an annual thing. Tell us about your garden that
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Speaker 1: you talked about. Obviously you're living in this bubble and
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Speaker 1: what benefits did it give to you? And why would
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Speaker 1: you recommend people to do their own organic layout their
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Speaker 1: own gardens. Well, I gotta tell you something. I love
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Speaker 1: yard work. I mean, and people say to me, wait,
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Speaker 1: you do your own yard. Absolutely, I do my own yard.
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Speaker 1: I find it to be very meditative. Um, I'm by myself,
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Speaker 1: I can think through things. I'm engaged. It's physical, by
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Speaker 1: the way, when you really get down to it, you know,
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Speaker 1: cutting your grass, weeding your garden, planting, digging, very physical
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Speaker 1: work by the way. Um, and I really enjoy doing it.
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Speaker 1: And um the pandemic really said to me. And I've
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Speaker 1: had landscapers. Don't get me wrong, but I said during
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Speaker 1: the pandemic you know what, I don't want to do
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Speaker 1: this myself. Actually, you know why can't I do it?
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Speaker 1: I did it as a kid. I enjoyed cutting grass
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Speaker 1: as a kid, right, making my five hours a cut. Uh,
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Speaker 1: So why can't I do it? I'm physically able to
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Speaker 1: do it. And I gotta tell you it's one of
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Speaker 1: the best decisions I made because it really gave me
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Speaker 1: an outlet. It gave me a way to be physical
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Speaker 1: without you know, I work out all the time, but
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Speaker 1: it gave me another way to be physical without it
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Speaker 1: being a mandatory workout. So I have more of a
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Speaker 1: I used to have a more of a vegetable garden.
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Speaker 1: I have more of a flower garden. So I have
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Speaker 1: a lot of different types of flowers. Um, and the
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Speaker 1: weeds have just the weeds said, listen, we're gonna take
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Speaker 1: advantage of the pandemic because they just went crazy for
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Speaker 1: some reason this year. So I literally rashan. I have
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Speaker 1: spent hour, not one hour, I have spent hours pulling
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Speaker 1: up And here's the thing. They look like plants by
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Speaker 1: the way that we yeah we're not talking about we
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Speaker 1: are like straw. These looks they look like nice plants,
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Speaker 1: but they're not they're really weeds and deep, deeply routed
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Speaker 1: right right. So, so yes, I've been doing a lot
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Speaker 1: of projects, Rishan, I've been writing a lot. I told
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Speaker 1: people to begin in pandemic on Instagram and if you're
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Speaker 1: on Instagram, follow me at dr Ian Smith spelled the
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Speaker 1: doctor out I A and Smith. I told people in
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Speaker 1: the very beginning, I said, guys, here's the deal. We
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Speaker 1: don't know how long this is going to be. We
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Speaker 1: don't know how severe this is going to be. But
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Speaker 1: one thing you can do is be productive. Fine projects.
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Speaker 1: Thing that you always said you wanted to do, Do
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Speaker 1: these things that you've always said if I had more time,
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Speaker 1: if I hadn't, well, now we got the time. So
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Speaker 1: I've been extremely productive. I've been writing like crazy. I
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Speaker 1: wrote my book for twenty one. I've already finished two
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Speaker 1: of those books. I got two books come up. Then
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Speaker 1: my new book is coming out or yeah in October
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Speaker 1: first The Unspoken. But let's go and talk about it
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Speaker 1: right now. Let's let's set it up. Let's go and
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Speaker 1: set it up right. You know, your new book, doctor
17:24
Speaker 1: Ian Kate Smith. It's written under that name, not under
17:26
Speaker 1: doctor Ian Smith. Correct, And it's about a farmer Chicago
17:30
Speaker 1: detective Ashcane. It's desperate for redemption after refusing to participating
17:34
Speaker 1: the police department covered up involving the death of the
17:37
Speaker 1: young black man. Sounds very current, don't it is? Pushing out,
17:41
Speaker 1: push it out of the fourth But he won't sit
17:43
Speaker 1: quietly on the sideline. He's compelled to fight for justice
17:45
Speaker 1: as a private investigator, even if it means putting himself
17:48
Speaker 1: in jeopardy. What a timely book. Come on that the unspoken?
17:51
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something I see? This is? This
17:53
Speaker 1: is the crazy thing rich. I started writing this book
17:56
Speaker 1: two years ago, right so before everyone thinks that I
17:59
Speaker 1: wrote this book to mat it's the time that we're
18:00
Speaker 1: now had nothing to do with this. Let me tell
18:02
Speaker 1: you why I wrote this book. I've always wanted to
18:05
Speaker 1: write a character, a strong African American male character. I
18:09
Speaker 1: felt like, when you look at the landscape of TV
18:12
Speaker 1: and you look at fiction, we don't really have that character.
18:15
Speaker 1: We don't have it, I mean, And so I said,
18:18
Speaker 1: and in my desire to have one, I said, I'll
18:20
Speaker 1: just write it. I said, you know, no one's written
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Speaker 1: it like I'm gonna write this character. So I had
18:25
Speaker 1: this idea for this character he's tough, he's um uh.
18:29
Speaker 1: He's a great athlete, former athlete. He's smart, he's good looking,
18:33
Speaker 1: he likes golf, he likes classic cars. He's a fun guy.
18:37
Speaker 1: He's had some some troubles in his romantic life. He
18:39
Speaker 1: basically got stood up by his fiance. So he's not perfect.
18:43
Speaker 1: He's imperfect. He's perfectly imperfect, right, which is he's a
18:46
Speaker 1: real person. But here's the deal. I was watching the
18:50
Speaker 1: news one night and I saw about the shooting of
18:53
Speaker 1: Laquam McDonald in Chicago. And I was watching the video
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Speaker 1: of this young black guy walking away from police officers
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Speaker 1: and getting shot. And when no, he had no no, no,
19:05
Speaker 1: it was unarmed, he was no threat. He was just
19:08
Speaker 1: walking away from them. Now they told him to stop,
19:10
Speaker 1: but he kept walking and they killed him. And as
19:12
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there looking at the video and reading the stories,
19:15
Speaker 1: what real? What I realized, Rashaan was my goodness, God's amazing,
19:20
Speaker 1: Thank goodness. Someone had bodycam video. Number one, right, number one,
19:25
Speaker 1: thank goodness for bodycam video. But number two, they suppressed
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Speaker 1: it for over a year. And actually they settled with
19:33
Speaker 1: the family. That's right, that's right. They suppressed the video.
19:37
Speaker 1: Someone leaked the video to the media and that's when
19:40
Speaker 1: the firestorms started. But that was a year after it happened.
19:43
Speaker 1: So thank goodness, someone leaked the video because they had
19:46
Speaker 1: already settled with the family and thought he was all
19:49
Speaker 1: under the copet. It was yeah, yeah, yeah, So I said, wow,
19:53
Speaker 1: what a great entree for my character. I'm gonna make
19:56
Speaker 1: this guy be a farmer detective with Chicago Police depart
20:00
Speaker 1: who leaves because he won't participate in the cover up
20:03
Speaker 1: of what they please call a bad shooting. Um. And
20:05
Speaker 1: then he hangs up his own shingle and starts taking
20:08
Speaker 1: on very select cases around the city of Chicago. It
20:11
Speaker 1: takes them all the way to the wealthy North Shore,
20:13
Speaker 1: all the way to the South Side and in between.
20:15
Speaker 1: So that is what the unspoken is about. People love
20:17
Speaker 1: it and already got option to be a TV series,
20:19
Speaker 1: so fingers crossed. Um, they're gonna start shopping it in
20:22
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks because the producers want to make
20:24
Speaker 1: a TV show. But you know that's this is another
20:27
Speaker 1: passion of mine, you know, I'd say to people, guys, listen,
20:30
Speaker 1: follow your passion. When you follow your passion, you're not working.
20:34
Speaker 1: It's not work. For me, it's just me having fun
20:36
Speaker 1: and and and doing what I love to do, and
20:38
Speaker 1: that makes it much easier. And the beauty of you
20:43
Speaker 1: has been always your self motivator. But when I look
20:47
Speaker 1: at this book, and you know, if you're go online,
20:49
Speaker 1: you got four and a half out of five stars,
20:51
Speaker 1: and reviews all been uh brilliantly received and uh and
20:56
Speaker 1: this is a great compeller. It's this just another part
20:59
Speaker 1: of the layer. And the reason I always like about you,
21:02
Speaker 1: liked about you, and still like about you is the
21:04
Speaker 1: fact that you are willing to let that journey taking
21:07
Speaker 1: that direction. And when you when you see the opportunity,
21:10
Speaker 1: like I said, that blessing, you didn't know it was
21:12
Speaker 1: gonna happen. You know, there was something you're watching TV
21:14
Speaker 1: and it just dawned on you creatively. Wow, this this
21:18
Speaker 1: is something this this that that that that next key
21:20
Speaker 1: that allowed me to be creative. And that is what
21:23
Speaker 1: this book is about. The Unspoken You can buy right now.
21:26
Speaker 1: It comes out officially out October one. Give us a
21:29
Speaker 1: little juicy. What is this particular storyline about? Now, I, hey,
21:34
Speaker 1: you tell me, because I don't want to give away
21:36
Speaker 1: too much of the fact. So, um, the book opens
21:40
Speaker 1: up with a very wealthy white woman, the aristocratic from
21:44
Speaker 1: the north Shore of Chicago. She goes down to the
21:46
Speaker 1: South Loop and he's going to asking she's blowdy. She
21:52
Speaker 1: goes down to the South Loop and she finds Ashcane,
21:55
Speaker 1: our man, and she says to him, I want you
21:58
Speaker 1: to find my missing daughter. And he doesn't want to
22:01
Speaker 1: do it at first, and just something she says to
22:04
Speaker 1: him that he piques his interest because money is not
22:07
Speaker 1: an issue for him. He's fine. He got a big
22:10
Speaker 1: selling from the city. So he doesn't take cases because
22:12
Speaker 1: of the money. He takes cases only when it it tingles,
22:16
Speaker 1: something tingles inside of him and says, I gotta look
22:19
Speaker 1: into this. And um, that's the opening book, and so
22:21
Speaker 1: he's The book is him trying to find this wealthy
22:24
Speaker 1: white girl who disappeared. And the ride starts is twisting
22:29
Speaker 1: and turning. It's up and down. You go to the
22:32
Speaker 1: tough streets of Englewood, um all the way up to
22:35
Speaker 1: the north Shore and the wealthy coast of Downtown to
22:38
Speaker 1: the go it's just you know, Chicago. He goes everywhere
22:41
Speaker 1: in Chicago, by the way, is a character in the book. Chicago.
22:44
Speaker 1: Chicago is I think a very misunderstood city. And it's
22:48
Speaker 1: but it's an important city. It's the third country's third
22:49
Speaker 1: largest city. But it's a flyover city. Everyone talks about
22:52
Speaker 1: l A and New York and you fly over Chicago.
22:55
Speaker 1: And so I really want to Chicago itself to be
22:58
Speaker 1: a character. I want you to understand the pulse of
23:00
Speaker 1: the city, the grid of the city, of the fashion
23:02
Speaker 1: of the city, every everything, all parts of the city.
23:06
Speaker 1: It's a corrupt city. Chicago is a corrupt city, you know.
23:09
Speaker 1: It's it's the foundation of this city. It's corruption. And
23:12
Speaker 1: I don't say that in a negative majority way, but
23:14
Speaker 1: that's the truth. If you look at the history of Chicago,
23:16
Speaker 1: it's about back room deals, it's about connections and who
23:20
Speaker 1: knows who, and aldermen and and and the Cook County President.
23:23
Speaker 1: So I felt like, what a great place to put
23:27
Speaker 1: a private investigator series in the city that has so
23:31
Speaker 1: many different faces to it. Well, you know what I'm
23:33
Speaker 1: telling you, You're absolutely right, Chicago one of my favorite cities.
23:36
Speaker 1: Great food. By the way, if you ever want to
23:39
Speaker 1: traveling around to where I want to eat great food,
23:41
Speaker 1: go to Chicago. They got it out, they got it.
23:43
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, let's shift gears a little
23:45
Speaker 1: bit because you are on the doctor and we're the
23:47
Speaker 1: middle of a pandemic. H When you read the articles
23:51
Speaker 1: and station at four percent of the people who actually
23:53
Speaker 1: die from COVID nineteen have pretty sixteen medical conditions. When
23:58
Speaker 1: you realize that, you know African America, because the people
24:00
Speaker 1: of color are overtly affected by the code virus, what
24:06
Speaker 1: is your role in all of this, just from an
24:08
Speaker 1: informational standpoint, Well, I think, you know, I think that
24:12
Speaker 1: it's been very unfortunate what has happened in our country.
24:15
Speaker 1: And I say that I'm trying to be calm about
24:16
Speaker 1: it because it really roused my blood pressure. The fact
24:20
Speaker 1: that the medical experts, the scientists, the doctors, the nurses,
24:25
Speaker 1: the public health advocates, the fact that they were not
24:29
Speaker 1: the leading voice of this pandemic and and guiding the
24:33
Speaker 1: country and how to fight it, And that the politicians
24:36
Speaker 1: made it a political issue and therefore stripped the true
24:41
Speaker 1: a political nature of the pandemic. It's science. Science and
24:45
Speaker 1: medicine are not political. People make it political. Virus isn't political.
24:49
Speaker 1: Virus infects what's called a host, and that's just a body.
24:54
Speaker 1: It could be a rich person, a poor personal, black person,
24:57
Speaker 1: white Jewish, it doesn't matter, Muslim, it doesn't matter. And
25:00
Speaker 1: and the fact that the government that some certain leaders
25:03
Speaker 1: in the government quote unquote leaders in the government, the
25:06
Speaker 1: fact that they made this a political issue is really
25:10
Speaker 1: really disgusting and it has compromised the entire country. The
25:15
Speaker 1: number of deaths would not be where it is, the
25:18
Speaker 1: number of injuries would not be where it is. The
25:21
Speaker 1: loss not listen to this, No one talks about, really
25:23
Speaker 1: the loss of life experience. Kids not being able to
25:27
Speaker 1: go back to school, sports being canceled for kids their seniors,
25:30
Speaker 1: the last chance of being able to win the state title,
25:34
Speaker 1: um kids not being recruited because they didn't were able
25:37
Speaker 1: to play a whole season and recruiters couldn't see them.
25:40
Speaker 1: People not being able to tend their children's graduation a
25:42
Speaker 1: whole class, not being able to walk up on the
25:45
Speaker 1: stage in front of hundreds of people, thousands of people
25:47
Speaker 1: cheering them out after four years of hard work. We're
25:49
Speaker 1: trying to think about the loss of life experience, all because,
25:54
Speaker 1: all because some quote unquote leaders in Washington wanted to
25:59
Speaker 1: politicize this and not take it seriously. And now this
26:03
Speaker 1: is the damage. This is the carnage. So as a physician,
26:06
Speaker 1: as an American, as a as a lover of human life,
26:10
Speaker 1: this has been a really, really tough time for me
26:13
Speaker 1: to see what has happened because I'm telling you, you
26:15
Speaker 1: asked anybody who has been to med school and they
26:18
Speaker 1: will tell you, Rachean, this isn't complicated. Scientists and doctors
26:22
Speaker 1: know what to do, but weren't allowed to guide the
26:27
Speaker 1: country and how to minimize its effect. And that's why
26:29
Speaker 1: this is very sad and history will not look very
26:31
Speaker 1: kindly on this period of American life because it will
26:35
Speaker 1: show how incapable when that we were not actually saying
26:37
Speaker 1: we were very capable. It will show how ineffective and
26:40
Speaker 1: inept we were when we had tons of capability that
26:43
Speaker 1: we ignored it absolutely, And let's cliticizing it, trying to
26:47
Speaker 1: keep the stock market open, trying to keep the country open,
26:50
Speaker 1: when when it can be layed with simple decision where
26:53
Speaker 1: I'm at social distance and be and using political intimidation too,
26:57
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying by not allowing the doctors to
26:59
Speaker 1: be doctors and scientists be scientists and be guided by
27:02
Speaker 1: their decision making. No, we're going to change the rules
27:05
Speaker 1: you can't change. Not listen. You don't want me to
27:10
Speaker 1: talk to you about the ins and out, the exits
27:13
Speaker 1: and o's of the economy. I'm not an economist. You
27:15
Speaker 1: don't want me leave that conversation. I'm serious, right, You
27:18
Speaker 1: don't want me to tell you the exces and ohs
27:21
Speaker 1: of how to drill for oil. That's not what I do.
27:24
Speaker 1: I've I've never never done it, haven't trained in it.
27:26
Speaker 1: But here we have people who have never never done
27:31
Speaker 1: anything in the scientific community are gonna tell the country
27:35
Speaker 1: what is a good vaccine? What is the proper medication
27:39
Speaker 1: when a vaccine should be available? How can you say that?
27:42
Speaker 1: That's like me saying you, hey, ra Sean, you know what,
27:45
Speaker 1: in six months, I want the stock market to be
27:46
Speaker 1: over saith what well, because I said that we should
27:50
Speaker 1: be at It doesn't work that way. Science doesn't work
27:53
Speaker 1: because you've got some deadline. Sciencests science. Science happens on
27:57
Speaker 1: its own. And I just think, you know, it's just
27:58
Speaker 1: been horrible in this country, just very sad. In the
28:01
Speaker 1: classic example what you just said, the CEO of Astra
28:04
Speaker 1: Zenica say it in April that he would have a
28:06
Speaker 1: vaccine in September. I guess who paused in September Astra Zeneca.
28:12
Speaker 1: So that's what you're saying. You cannot predict signs you
28:15
Speaker 1: just like you cannot predict your stock market. That's and
28:17
Speaker 1: you can't give into political pressure. My feeling, and I'm
28:20
Speaker 1: public about this, My feeling is had the country shut
28:23
Speaker 1: down for four to six weeks like the other countries
28:27
Speaker 1: had done, I mean shut down, no air traffic, no
28:30
Speaker 1: interstate travel with trains and buses. Had we all shelted
28:34
Speaker 1: in place together, all of us. I don't care where
28:36
Speaker 1: you live, from South Dakota to Louisiana to Boston to
28:40
Speaker 1: l it doesn't matter. If we all just sat at
28:42
Speaker 1: home and our small communities and let this thing die down,
28:46
Speaker 1: let it die down, we'd be in a much different
28:48
Speaker 1: world right now. But because people didn't want to do it,
28:51
Speaker 1: Rashaan in a uniform way, everyone said, well, I got rights,
28:54
Speaker 1: I got right. This wasn't about rights. This was about
28:57
Speaker 1: how do you attack a global pandemic? And then you
29:00
Speaker 1: look at the data. On the show The Doctors, we're
29:02
Speaker 1: gonna talk about this September twenty one, wee premiere. We're
29:05
Speaker 1: gonna talk about what did other countries do. Why is
29:08
Speaker 1: it that they had a hundred days of no infections?
29:10
Speaker 1: And we're gonna compare what they did and what the
29:13
Speaker 1: best lessons are. But we just didn't do it right. Rashanot,
29:16
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta open the economy. Well, listen, what
29:19
Speaker 1: good is opening the economy if people end up getting
29:22
Speaker 1: sick and you gotta close the businesses again, if you
29:25
Speaker 1: want to have a pink pok relationship, open clothes, open
29:28
Speaker 1: and now look where we are. I called it, you
29:31
Speaker 1: called it. It's the that's the perfect theme for the
29:33
Speaker 1: new season, Take your power back. Tell us the background
29:37
Speaker 1: of why that's important. Just listen to I'm Jason Man.
29:40
Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy. If I can't see it, I'm recording
29:44
Speaker 1: it because you're already on fire. You're on fire. But
29:49
Speaker 1: the thing about our relationship, we just get the talking doctor,
29:52
Speaker 1: We just get the talking and next thing you know,
29:54
Speaker 1: it's thirty minutes later. We gotta go ahead. I gotta
29:56
Speaker 1: stop talking to you you, brother, I can't take it all
29:57
Speaker 1: your time. But the theme is take your power act.
30:00
Speaker 1: Tell us about the new season. You kind of hitting
30:02
Speaker 1: on it on the premiere episode, But what is that
30:04
Speaker 1: arc of the season. Take your Power Back, very succinctly,
30:08
Speaker 1: Take your power Back means that we have been living
30:10
Speaker 1: in times that we have felt powerless. These are uncertain times,
30:13
Speaker 1: these are dangerous times. People are scared and nervous, understandably,
30:17
Speaker 1: so we want to show people that there are things
30:20
Speaker 1: that you can do to take some of that power back,
30:22
Speaker 1: not all of it, because some of this is out
30:24
Speaker 1: of our control, like vaccines, out of our control, but
30:26
Speaker 1: there are things that you can do within your own homes,
30:29
Speaker 1: within your own life to take some of that power
30:31
Speaker 1: and stability back. And so we're gonna inspire people, We're
30:34
Speaker 1: gonna challenge people. We're gonna give you the best answers
30:37
Speaker 1: that we can find that are scientifically based and not
30:39
Speaker 1: politically based. And my my mission to my team was this.
30:42
Speaker 1: In the very beginning, I said, guys, every day, I
30:45
Speaker 1: want to do something that every person watching can make
30:48
Speaker 1: a change in their life to improve it. And that's
30:51
Speaker 1: our mission. We wanted this is a show for the people.
30:53
Speaker 1: It's about the People's not about what dr Ian thinks,
30:56
Speaker 1: what my producers think. It's about what people need. So
30:59
Speaker 1: we want to put this show forward. You also send
31:01
Speaker 1: me a d M on Instagram at dr Ian Smith.
31:04
Speaker 1: Uh spelled the Doctor out and let me know what
31:06
Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about. Uh, let me know about
31:08
Speaker 1: your experts. We want different experts from all walks of
31:11
Speaker 1: life to give us different experiences. This is gonna be
31:13
Speaker 1: a show for all of us. It's let me a
31:15
Speaker 1: diverse show tackling issues that we all care about. And
31:18
Speaker 1: you know, I post about you, so you know when
31:20
Speaker 1: people react very good when I post about Dr n
31:23
Speaker 1: Smith on my Time Life. And so if you've got
31:25
Speaker 1: a banner that say it's what you just said, please
31:27
Speaker 1: tell your people to get it to me so I
31:28
Speaker 1: can post and let people know that this show is
31:31
Speaker 1: about the people. Is not so much about the producers.
31:34
Speaker 1: Is about the people in the voices. They want to
31:35
Speaker 1: be a part of the show. You're engaging them. But
31:37
Speaker 1: more importantly, his book They're Spoken To Coming Out is
31:40
Speaker 1: already out officially out October first. You're premiering your new
31:44
Speaker 1: episode of the thirteen season. He's the solo host. Dr
31:47
Speaker 1: Ian Smith is who's the solo host of The Doctors.
31:51
Speaker 1: The author Ian Kate Smith is the same person, same
31:55
Speaker 1: person doing this thing and multiple levels. Like I said,
31:59
Speaker 1: he's been a blessing and my life. He's a blessing
32:01
Speaker 1: to my mom. I appreciate you and my last name.
32:04
Speaker 1: If you ever do an episode Brother by Bacon, call
32:08
Speaker 1: men man, I show up, I show up and do it.
32:10
Speaker 1: Do some baking on the show. Just let people live right.
32:13
Speaker 1: I'll take care of this. I'll take you and I
32:15
Speaker 1: appreciate your friendship to the years. And we've had a
32:18
Speaker 1: lot of experiences together and the road in over year.
32:20
Speaker 1: So let's keep going again. Thank you for coming on
32:23
Speaker 1: the show, and get their banners to me about the
32:25
Speaker 1: show so I can get them posted before the show premiers.
32:27
Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother, appreciate you. Take care. We'll be
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33:42
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33:45
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33:48
Speaker 1: BT stand up Showcase Comic View. Now as an actor,
33:51
Speaker 1: you've seen him and think like a man Movies, Daddy Daycare,
33:55
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33:57
Speaker 1: talk about his comedy career because he's back on too COVID.
34:01
Speaker 1: He back out that now COVID shut us down like that,
34:04
Speaker 1: but back out that it's popular, gets on podcast and
34:06
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Speaker 1: money making Conversation, my man, Gary on, how are you doing? Gary?
34:17
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Well, I mean we we kind of
34:19
Speaker 1: we kind of kind of popped up right there, man,
34:21
Speaker 1: that COVID came in and everybody at live event performances
34:25
Speaker 1: shut down. Talk tell us about that moment when there
34:28
Speaker 1: was a realization that that this pandemic was gonna take
34:32
Speaker 1: away a portion your income and how did you deal
34:34
Speaker 1: with it? We took away a huge part of the
34:38
Speaker 1: income there for a while. I'm sorry, I'm sorry I
34:42
Speaker 1: understated that, Gary, I understated it. Yeah, we gott realized.
34:46
Speaker 1: I I kind of lived my life and we budget. Um,
34:51
Speaker 1: like everything around my stand up money, like TV and
34:54
Speaker 1: film money is always just like extra to me. When
34:57
Speaker 1: those when those checks come in, I'm always like, oh great,
35:00
Speaker 1: extra money. But as far as my day to day living,
35:03
Speaker 1: we based it on stand up. So when that came
35:05
Speaker 1: to a halt, um, I was just like, WHOA, Okay.
35:09
Speaker 1: I I thought it was gonna be like two or
35:11
Speaker 1: three months. I didn't know we'd still be going right right,
35:16
Speaker 1: You know that that was a scary part about it.
35:18
Speaker 1: Because of the fact that you know, you know, you
35:21
Speaker 1: know were people have to admit that as you're just
35:23
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. If you're a stand up comic, you're successful.
35:26
Speaker 1: You're a small business. You're walking talking small business. You
35:28
Speaker 1: just have to be going on stage performing. And when
35:31
Speaker 1: that when when the kovid hit me, I admit I was.
35:34
Speaker 1: I couldn't really grasp how I would go out in public.
35:38
Speaker 1: I have my peral, I have my I have my
35:41
Speaker 1: wife's I had my mask. You know, I have some
35:44
Speaker 1: some some tissues and I didn't know I even had
35:48
Speaker 1: plastic gloves. How did that affect you? You know, not
35:51
Speaker 1: just from a comedic standpoint, just a real life standpoint.
35:53
Speaker 1: You have your your family to deal with, and you
35:56
Speaker 1: in your professional life being shut down. Now you're at home.
35:59
Speaker 1: How did that all play out there? Well, I mean
36:03
Speaker 1: a couple of things I did. I called everyone that
36:06
Speaker 1: I know, um that's healthier than me, which is uh
36:10
Speaker 1: Romney Malco, who isn't thing like a man who's probably
36:13
Speaker 1: the healthiest man I've ever met. I just want to
36:16
Speaker 1: got that guy is seventy five years old and looks thirty.
36:21
Speaker 1: That's my favorite man. He's one of my favorite people. Yeah,
36:24
Speaker 1: And I called him. I said, Romney, what should I
36:28
Speaker 1: be taking, like to boost my immune system just in
36:31
Speaker 1: case I caught it? Or and if I did catch it,
36:34
Speaker 1: I'd be equipped to deal with it. Um, So I
36:38
Speaker 1: called him. I called a couple of doctors that I know.
36:40
Speaker 1: I just called everyone healthier than me to find out
36:42
Speaker 1: what I should be taken, uh, in case I called it?
36:47
Speaker 1: And then you know, I'm going back to what you
36:49
Speaker 1: said earlier. How um when the COVID hit, how did
36:53
Speaker 1: I deal with it? One thing I did that I
36:56
Speaker 1: would encourage any comic to do is I really am
37:00
Speaker 1: up my YouTube and Facebook videos because um uh you know,
37:05
Speaker 1: once you get a thound of subscribers, you can get
37:07
Speaker 1: monetized on you. Yes, yes, And so I actually hired
37:11
Speaker 1: a company to take all my old jokes because I
37:15
Speaker 1: own all my my comedy specials and I did it myself.
37:19
Speaker 1: So I was like, cut these up, put them on YouTube,
37:22
Speaker 1: and it kind of supplemented my income. I mean, it
37:24
Speaker 1: wasn't as much as stand up, but it was more
37:27
Speaker 1: money than I had had in the past of social media.
37:30
Speaker 1: So you that's the money I could have made made
37:32
Speaker 1: without leaving my house. Now, let me ask you this
37:35
Speaker 1: so so and every time a lot of people do
37:37
Speaker 1: notice every time you when you have subscribers, and every
37:39
Speaker 1: time you upload the video, it notifies your current subscribers,
37:43
Speaker 1: and that's how you get more subscribers. And so did
37:46
Speaker 1: you did you just like, uh, you know, because a
37:48
Speaker 1: lot of people understand that social media really is is
37:51
Speaker 1: a is a blessing. And this is what you said. Look,
37:54
Speaker 1: hey man, I own my material, I copyright this stuff.
37:57
Speaker 1: Let me go on YouTube and make more money using
37:59
Speaker 1: my material. And that enabled you to see things from
38:02
Speaker 1: a different perspective. Now that the pandemic is allowing you
38:06
Speaker 1: to go back to work, aren't you looking at a
38:07
Speaker 1: different financial model? I am. And it's also building your
38:13
Speaker 1: fan base. You're you're bringing in fans that you didn't
38:16
Speaker 1: have before the pandemic because more people are at home
38:20
Speaker 1: watching this stuff, right, And now you get back on
38:24
Speaker 1: the road and you know, I got back on the
38:26
Speaker 1: road a few times in the last couple of months,
38:29
Speaker 1: and with YouTube, Facebook and the podcast, it's like I'm
38:35
Speaker 1: bringing in new fans that I didn't know I had
38:37
Speaker 1: before the pandemic. Well, now you become, like they say,
38:40
Speaker 1: multiple streams of income and that's that's when we all
38:43
Speaker 1: try to achieve there's not and you know, also achieving
38:46
Speaker 1: a level where you're not waiting on somebody to give
38:48
Speaker 1: you an opportunity, especially with the podcast and especially with
38:51
Speaker 1: the YouTube challenge. So when I when I when I
38:53
Speaker 1: look at what you're doing with your career. Gary, First
38:56
Speaker 1: of all, I'm proud of you, you know always, you
38:58
Speaker 1: know backstage watching you perform. I've I've watched on TV.
39:02
Speaker 1: I've watched at least two of your your comedy special.
39:05
Speaker 1: You know, you built a brand, and you built a
39:07
Speaker 1: brand as a white guy in a black with a
39:10
Speaker 1: black audience. How did all that start? You know, because
39:12
Speaker 1: I I just stand up. I started out performing in
39:15
Speaker 1: front of the all white audience and then Deaf Jam
39:17
Speaker 1: hit in ninety two, and suddenly I saw a black
39:19
Speaker 1: audience out there, and I shifted my gear that went
39:21
Speaker 1: over there and say, this is a bigger opportunity to
39:23
Speaker 1: plays a bigger check. I'm I'm I'm gonna live my
39:26
Speaker 1: dream through this. And then I became a talent manager
39:28
Speaker 1: and the rest is history. So how did you start
39:30
Speaker 1: out your's your stand up career and your focal point. Well,
39:35
Speaker 1: I always knew I wanted to be a stand up.
39:37
Speaker 1: I just didn't know how do you do it? You know,
39:39
Speaker 1: you grew up in a small town in Ohio. I'm like,
39:41
Speaker 1: how do I how do you even start? Because even
39:44
Speaker 1: when I was a teenager, I would We had a
39:46
Speaker 1: local comedy club. We had a Funny Bone in Cincinnati.
39:49
Speaker 1: Ray Cam used to own. He used to be the
39:52
Speaker 1: host Family Feud and uh he uh. I'd always sit
39:57
Speaker 1: outside and listen to the comics. I was too young
40:00
Speaker 1: to get in, but I said at the front door.
40:03
Speaker 1: And it was funny because I actually got cool with
40:04
Speaker 1: the door guy there, and he started to be like, hey,
40:08
Speaker 1: I mean you always hanging out here, and I was like,
40:10
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm I'm a comedian. I never
40:14
Speaker 1: I would tell him you I'm a comedian. And then
40:16
Speaker 1: uh he started to let me sit in the back.
40:18
Speaker 1: He had his own little back, high top table, and
40:21
Speaker 1: me and this guy would sit in the back and
40:23
Speaker 1: we'd watch stand ups come in and literally never being
40:26
Speaker 1: on stage. I'd be in the back critique and status
40:29
Speaker 1: going oh I'm better than him. Oh yeah, I'm funny
40:31
Speaker 1: at him. But then there'd be some comics I'm like, oh,
40:34
Speaker 1: that guy's pretty good. Is that funny? I never thought
40:38
Speaker 1: of that. I never thought of that. That's that's crazy.
40:41
Speaker 1: It really does become a science. That's that's that's important
40:44
Speaker 1: that you say that because you get to see some people,
40:46
Speaker 1: did you know the musical act? You can see all
40:49
Speaker 1: of them, and that was a beauty of your education,
40:51
Speaker 1: being able to sit back and see all these different levels. Yeah.
40:56
Speaker 1: And then I joined the military after high school. And
41:00
Speaker 1: the only reason I joined the military is I always
41:02
Speaker 1: say I didn't know. I didn't know where exactly wanted
41:06
Speaker 1: to go. I just know I didn't want to be
41:08
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be stuck in that trailer park
41:11
Speaker 1: in that small town the rest of my life. So
41:14
Speaker 1: the Navy was an opportunity to basically get an airline
41:18
Speaker 1: ticket and fly me to another part of the country.
41:22
Speaker 1: I got to meet different types of people. And but
41:26
Speaker 1: the whole goal, and it sounds crazy from like I
41:29
Speaker 1: can remember junior high, was to be a stand up
41:32
Speaker 1: and I thought, I thought you had to start in
41:36
Speaker 1: l A. I didn't know you could start doing stand
41:39
Speaker 1: up in any city you live in. I thought you
41:42
Speaker 1: had to start in l A. I also thought the
41:45
Speaker 1: whole state of California was Los Angeles because I'm I'm
41:48
Speaker 1: looking at David the Ross video. I wish y'all could
41:51
Speaker 1: be California girls. I'm like, well that's the whole state.
41:55
Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a friend though in a
41:56
Speaker 1: baker's field. Okay, well, well that's where I got stationed.
42:04
Speaker 1: I finally got stationed after two years in San Diego,
42:06
Speaker 1: and my first day there, I got in the phone
42:09
Speaker 1: book and I started looking up comedy club and it
42:13
Speaker 1: was funny. I called this place called the Comic Castle,
42:16
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, man, what's up. You get a
42:18
Speaker 1: phone book? I go, you got open mic? He said,
42:20
Speaker 1: let me check. He goes, he gets off the phone,
42:22
Speaker 1: it comes back and I can't find him. I said,
42:24
Speaker 1: women can't find him. It was a comic book store.
42:27
Speaker 1: I thought I was called a comedy club. Was sure.
42:40
Speaker 1: He's trying so hard. You're trying so hard. This is funny, man,
42:44
Speaker 1: continue you continue, man, this is funny. I'm glad to
42:46
Speaker 1: talked to you about this stuff. Come on, man. But
42:48
Speaker 1: the dude was so helpful with the comic book store.
42:51
Speaker 1: He goes, no, man, we're a comic store. But here's
42:53
Speaker 1: the phone number to the comedy store in Lahoya, this
42:55
Speaker 1: other comedy club. So I went and I signed up
43:00
Speaker 1: for open mic. After about a month, I finally got
43:02
Speaker 1: on and in my mind that was it. I'm about
43:05
Speaker 1: I'm about to be a star, my first open mic.
43:08
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've waited for this, I'm ready for this.
43:10
Speaker 1: I think I got I got in the military. Yeah,
43:15
Speaker 1: I'm still in the Navy. I'm still in the Navy.
43:17
Speaker 1: And I'm like, because open Mic Nights was Sunday night
43:19
Speaker 1: at the Comedy Store, and I went up there and
43:22
Speaker 1: I got on stage. It was probably midnight, one in
43:25
Speaker 1: the morning. There's like ten people in the audience, but
43:28
Speaker 1: there's like twenty comics in the back of the room.
43:31
Speaker 1: So the comics we're heckling me, and I was like,
43:35
Speaker 1: you know, when you open mic? I got this five minutes.
43:38
Speaker 1: I don't have anything else. I didn't get out of it.
43:41
Speaker 1: So I told the comics from the back, I go, hey,
43:45
Speaker 1: why don't you guys keep heckling because I'm nineteen. And
43:48
Speaker 1: I had a beer in my hand, and I said,
43:49
Speaker 1: I've been drinking this club all night. I want to
43:51
Speaker 1: call the cups and shut this plate down. They threw
43:55
Speaker 1: me out so fast, yo, I it was like out
44:02
Speaker 1: of a movie. The power went out on the mic.
44:06
Speaker 1: Some bouncer came up and grabbed me by the back
44:08
Speaker 1: of my shirt and threw me like I did a
44:10
Speaker 1: front roll in front of the comedy store and the
44:13
Speaker 1: guy STO, don't have a come back. Great. So I
44:19
Speaker 1: go to my ship the next day and I'm telling
44:22
Speaker 1: people about the night before, and like you, everybody's laughing,
44:24
Speaker 1: and a couple of brothers um that I was stationed with.
44:28
Speaker 1: They said, Joe Gee, you can go here, here, and here.
44:31
Speaker 1: They told me about all the quote unquote hood hood spots,
44:34
Speaker 1: black spots that they have comedy shows. So that's really
44:38
Speaker 1: why I started doing all the quote unquote black comedies
44:42
Speaker 1: because it was an I could get on stage. I
44:45
Speaker 1: can stage at the mainstream room. And then fast forward,
44:49
Speaker 1: I started trying to go to l A. Now, so
44:51
Speaker 1: now I'm I'm driving up to l A all the
44:53
Speaker 1: time from San Diego, and the same thing happened. I
44:56
Speaker 1: went to the comedy store. I waited in line three
44:59
Speaker 1: or four hours different times to be a paid regular
45:02
Speaker 1: at the comedy store, and I finally got the showcase
45:04
Speaker 1: from its shore and I didn't get picked, so I
45:08
Speaker 1: was just like I said, to whatever, and but at
45:12
Speaker 1: um I got to meet Guy Tory and then got
45:16
Speaker 1: you know, guy got me on a Fat Tuesday again,
45:20
Speaker 1: all all the black comics started saying, hey man, you
45:23
Speaker 1: can come here, here, here. So I started doing all
45:25
Speaker 1: the black night in Hollywood and that's basically what led
45:30
Speaker 1: to everything. And then I got on b ET became
45:33
Speaker 1: the host, and then the rest is kind of history. Well,
45:35
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting just hearing that story, because,
45:38
Speaker 1: like I said, you just took advantage of the opportunity
45:40
Speaker 1: that were presented to you. Okay, and uh and and
45:44
Speaker 1: but more importantly, you took advantage of that you were not.
45:48
Speaker 1: You did not see an opportunity to say, well, well
45:50
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still trying to get over here to
45:52
Speaker 1: be successful. I'm gonna be successful where I'm allowed the
45:54
Speaker 1: opportunity to be successful. When you got on b T
45:58
Speaker 1: you became the host. Was that how much that changed
46:01
Speaker 1: your touring money? As they say, your ability to be booked? Well,
46:06
Speaker 1: here's this crazy. When I people that remember the old
46:10
Speaker 1: comic few days, it was a contest. Remember yeah, I
46:15
Speaker 1: know you remember, but it was a contest. And so
46:19
Speaker 1: the first year I did it, I just you know,
46:21
Speaker 1: they filmed the whole season in a week. They do
46:23
Speaker 1: like three year five. It was three or five episodes
46:25
Speaker 1: every day, money through Friday. So the whole season was
46:28
Speaker 1: done in a week. So I was still active duty military.
46:31
Speaker 1: I was still in the Navy. I took a week's leave,
46:34
Speaker 1: drove up to l A and recorded my whole season
46:37
Speaker 1: right there. So now, so you're still in the Navy
46:41
Speaker 1: and you recorded b tea comic view. Yeah, here's where
46:45
Speaker 1: it gets crazy. I'm still active duty. I I go
46:52
Speaker 1: up to l A film comic. You come back to
46:55
Speaker 1: my base. So now I start to air on TV.
46:59
Speaker 1: I'm a cop in the Navy, m massied arms. So
47:01
Speaker 1: we on the gate waving cars in. Dude, I'm on
47:03
Speaker 1: the gate waving cars in. And some of the brothers
47:06
Speaker 1: was like, hey, but did I see you on TV
47:07
Speaker 1: last night? So I sat there and then um, and
47:16
Speaker 1: BT doesn't know I'm in the Navy, and the Navy
47:19
Speaker 1: itself doesn't really know I'm, you know, doing the stand
47:22
Speaker 1: up thing. And Curtis Gaston, who was the head of
47:25
Speaker 1: BT at the time, called me and said, hey, it
47:29
Speaker 1: was assistant called Mint and Curtis wants to meet with you.
47:31
Speaker 1: I drive up to l A and he Curtis goes,
47:34
Speaker 1: we want to make you the host, and I was
47:36
Speaker 1: like whoa. So I'm like whoa. I had to go
47:39
Speaker 1: back to my face and I still had six months
47:41
Speaker 1: left on my enlistment, and I was like, um, I
47:45
Speaker 1: gotta get out early. I got offered a TV show
47:47
Speaker 1: and literally they were like, we've heard of some lies,
47:50
Speaker 1: but this one's a great one. And so basically, long
47:55
Speaker 1: story short is, um BT wasn't. They weren't going to
47:59
Speaker 1: start film and for another three months, I had six
48:02
Speaker 1: months left to my listening. So my command worked with
48:05
Speaker 1: me and they finished out that three months working and
48:09
Speaker 1: then I drove up to l A. And that's when
48:11
Speaker 1: I just moved up there. So there, you know, when
48:13
Speaker 1: you say to our money, there really wasn't to our money.
48:16
Speaker 1: I wasn't on the road. I was basically just San Diego,
48:20
Speaker 1: going up, you know, four or five times a week.
48:23
Speaker 1: And then I get out of the Navy. I am
48:26
Speaker 1: me going to host and b et and now I'm
48:30
Speaker 1: on the road as a stand up. It was like
48:32
Speaker 1: it was crazy. I didn't have the the years of
48:36
Speaker 1: being on the road, uh, you know, opening up for
48:40
Speaker 1: people for no money. I don't I don't have that story.
48:42
Speaker 1: But my grind was driving to l A three or
48:46
Speaker 1: four times a week at a San Diego Like I
48:48
Speaker 1: get off work at four in the Navy, drive up
48:51
Speaker 1: to l A for like a ten o'clock spot at
48:53
Speaker 1: the Comedy Act theater, and then drive right back because
48:56
Speaker 1: I gotta be at work at six in the morning.
49:00
Speaker 1: In our country. You know that that was your grand right.
49:04
Speaker 1: And you know driving four hours, two hours up, two
49:07
Speaker 1: hours back, four or five days a week in my
49:09
Speaker 1: STM pick up um, just like you get five ten
49:13
Speaker 1: minutes on stage because I felt like, you know, I
49:15
Speaker 1: was get my name out there. I was meeting people.
49:17
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Speaker 1: deductible may apply. Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Sean McDonald. First of all, you know, I
50:29
Speaker 1: my laughter is natural because of the fact you're just
50:32
Speaker 1: naturally fronty. I'm just here you talk and you just
50:34
Speaker 1: naturally just you know it. Always tell people when you
50:36
Speaker 1: become a real comic, you just know how to say
50:39
Speaker 1: certain words that will generate a laugh. You just know,
50:42
Speaker 1: you know, two plus two its four, and and that
50:45
Speaker 1: that ability to be just naturally funny has always paid
50:48
Speaker 1: your way to the next opportunity. Now we say you're
50:52
Speaker 1: on the road. Now you're getting popular people showing up
50:55
Speaker 1: to see Gary. How did that feel? Gary? Uh? You
51:00
Speaker 1: know what I always I always knew it was going
51:03
Speaker 1: to happen. And it sounds cocky, but there was never
51:07
Speaker 1: any doubt. It was like I would I would sit
51:10
Speaker 1: in class and like high school and literally this sounds
51:15
Speaker 1: so cocky. I would look around, like, you guys, don't
51:17
Speaker 1: know who's in your class right here? Take pictures, get
51:25
Speaker 1: my autograph. I would don't be saved if you don't
51:28
Speaker 1: do it. I would tell girls you should date me.
51:33
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you should. You know, this is why, this
51:38
Speaker 1: is why I found it so incredible. When I talked
51:41
Speaker 1: to people who get it early, only you got it.
51:43
Speaker 1: You know. I went to college, took me seven years
51:46
Speaker 1: to graduate. Then I work for IBM, and then I
51:49
Speaker 1: started doing stand up. You know, I wasted seven valuable
51:52
Speaker 1: years when I could have just at a team. Knew
51:56
Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to do. You know, followed
51:58
Speaker 1: my natural instinct, followed my blessings, and when it did it.
52:01
Speaker 1: And that's why when I look at when I listened
52:03
Speaker 1: to your story, it's all it's so, it's so single focus. Okay,
52:07
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of Ohio. I'm gonna use the military.
52:10
Speaker 1: You say that I'm gonna use the military to get
52:12
Speaker 1: out of here. Take me to a city that I
52:13
Speaker 1: can do stand up. Once you realize you can do
52:15
Speaker 1: stand up anywhere, then you guess what. You pursue that opportunity.
52:18
Speaker 1: Then you say, I gotta get to l A. Okay,
52:20
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive. I'm not gonna let somebody stop. I'm
52:23
Speaker 1: not gonna party, I'm not gonna be dating. I gotta
52:25
Speaker 1: I gotta fulfill my dream. You always had a single
52:28
Speaker 1: minded focus man. That that's that's that's a passion that
52:32
Speaker 1: is still carrying through today for you. Correct, oh, without question.
52:36
Speaker 1: Because you never reach your goals. I always say, like,
52:39
Speaker 1: if you sell ten thousand tickets, you want to sell
52:41
Speaker 1: a level thousand next time. Um, you went, you wanna
52:44
Speaker 1: win another You're getting the movie. You wanna do another movie.
52:47
Speaker 1: You never reach your goals. The goals change, you know,
52:52
Speaker 1: because you first get in the business, you just want
52:53
Speaker 1: to be on the road of the headliner, and then
52:55
Speaker 1: you want to sell tickets, and then you want to
52:57
Speaker 1: get the door deal, and you want to move to theaters,
53:00
Speaker 1: and it always changes, but you know, you're you never
53:03
Speaker 1: reach your goal. I guess my goal would be to
53:06
Speaker 1: sell out Earth. You get past COVID. You get that,
53:10
Speaker 1: my brother. Now let's let's let's let's talk about let's
53:13
Speaker 1: talk about these specials now because they you know, doing
53:16
Speaker 1: the special is what you want to do. You want
53:18
Speaker 1: to get that special, but did it get it? Takes
53:20
Speaker 1: a home a lot of your key material when you
53:24
Speaker 1: do it, because you gotta get your special. You get it.
53:27
Speaker 1: You gotta get on the road to take advantage of
53:29
Speaker 1: all that extra exposure to get those sellouts and those
53:33
Speaker 1: door deals. How do you write your material? I don't
53:37
Speaker 1: really write my jokes down. I mean, I'll get on
53:40
Speaker 1: my phone and on my notes, I'll have like a word,
53:43
Speaker 1: but I don't only write my jokes down. It's just
53:46
Speaker 1: I'm on the road to so much that, uh, they're
53:51
Speaker 1: just always in my brain. But I don't really write
53:54
Speaker 1: my jokes down. It's and then, you know, I just
53:55
Speaker 1: think your comedy kind of grows with you, uh, with
54:00
Speaker 1: you know. I used to talk about Dayton and I
54:02
Speaker 1: got married, and then if we're young and now they're teenagers,
54:05
Speaker 1: now they just graduated. It's just I think it's just
54:07
Speaker 1: I just really talk about my life a lot, a lot,
54:13
Speaker 1: as they say, a whole lot. I do know, Gary,
54:16
Speaker 1: I know Gary, reality show. Gary. You you talking about
54:20
Speaker 1: so much you made as a TV show. That's how
54:21
Speaker 1: about you talk about it an open book. You're an
54:24
Speaker 1: open book. Open now, you know, let's take at K
54:28
Speaker 1: into the movies now because I know you have the movie.
54:30
Speaker 1: We're welcome to Southern Death with Michael joh White. Universal
54:33
Speaker 1: four Team for the entertainment is the production of Universal
54:36
Speaker 1: Home Entertainment. Now go back in our relationship and think
54:39
Speaker 1: like a man. Think like a man too. I remember
54:41
Speaker 1: Will Packer and who was sitting down Steve Harvey and
54:43
Speaker 1: I and we was going through the casting and then uh,
54:46
Speaker 1: and your name popped up. It was not even a
54:48
Speaker 1: question that you know what you just it was just
54:54
Speaker 1: you was just perfectly made for the movie. And you
54:58
Speaker 1: now you're just seriously, you was perfectly made for the movie.
55:01
Speaker 1: And when it became a instant hit, how did that
55:05
Speaker 1: affect your touring dollars? To first thing, like a Man movie. Gary, Well,
55:09
Speaker 1: that that was. That was the time of my career.
55:12
Speaker 1: It was like the perfect store my career. I It's
55:16
Speaker 1: gone in like three segments. It was like I got
55:19
Speaker 1: the wholes in job on b ET and then and
55:23
Speaker 1: then I, you know, I had a couple of specials
55:25
Speaker 1: come out, and you know, but when Thinks Like a
55:28
Speaker 1: Man came out in two twelve and we recorded in
55:30
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. Um, my career was kind of on
55:34
Speaker 1: a hamster wheel. I was doing fine, but it wasn't
55:38
Speaker 1: really going to where the money was the same, you know.
55:40
Speaker 1: And I kind of knew when I went into a
55:43
Speaker 1: city how much money I was pulling out. And then um,
55:46
Speaker 1: I knew I made tickets I would sell and it
55:48
Speaker 1: was like this, it's crazy, how this I would say.
55:51
Speaker 1: From two thousand ten to two thousand thirteen, it was
55:55
Speaker 1: a huge jump in my career. There was three things
55:58
Speaker 1: that happened. One, UH Mike Epps had this UH comic
56:03
Speaker 1: show called Live from the Nokia and he asked me
56:06
Speaker 1: to be on it, and I got on it and
56:08
Speaker 1: I said, I just had a feeling, um that set
56:13
Speaker 1: was going to do something for me. I don't know why.
56:16
Speaker 1: And it did, and then then the next year, um,
56:21
Speaker 1: Will Packer called No. Six months after I recorded it,
56:23
Speaker 1: Will Packer called me and was like, you know, I
56:26
Speaker 1: got this movie, g Um. He's this white guy that
56:30
Speaker 1: can hang out with black guys but not act black
56:32
Speaker 1: and really be able to give and take, like give
56:36
Speaker 1: him ship and then they give and take. And I
56:38
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's perfect, and then uh and then
56:44
Speaker 1: like and then I did another special and then it
56:47
Speaker 1: just all that was a big jump in my career
56:50
Speaker 1: as far as like tickets going up and people recognizing
56:54
Speaker 1: me and getting more opportunities like in front of the camera. Yeah,
56:58
Speaker 1: I always say Will Packer, especially going to bat for
57:02
Speaker 1: me and you guys and the thing like a man franchise.
57:05
Speaker 1: It just came at the time of my career where
57:06
Speaker 1: it just went, you know, the I R S was happy.
57:12
Speaker 1: I was just telling you know, you know, like I said,
57:14
Speaker 1: you know, you have to be ready for those moments, Gary,
57:17
Speaker 1: and you was ready for those moments. And that's why
57:20
Speaker 1: that's why I appreciated the storytelling that you're doing and
57:22
Speaker 1: doing this interview. Everything is like so fresh and so
57:26
Speaker 1: vivid in your mind because you still you live in
57:29
Speaker 1: your what you wanted to do all your life, and
57:31
Speaker 1: so it's not even like another thought. You know, I
57:34
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a scientist. You know, I was
57:36
Speaker 1: in the Navy, but that wasn't a career move for me. Okay,
57:39
Speaker 1: that wasn't. That was just an opportunity to get to
57:42
Speaker 1: my dream. And I think that's really impressive. And when
57:44
Speaker 1: I when I look at the movie that I saw,
57:47
Speaker 1: Welcome to Southern Death with Michael joh White. Okay, now
57:51
Speaker 1: you're you're the comedy relief in this movie. Okay, So
57:54
Speaker 1: when people tell you that and you're given a script,
57:57
Speaker 1: what runs through your minds? The additional pressure that you
58:00
Speaker 1: because you know it's a serious, you know, terrorists driven
58:04
Speaker 1: movie where this basketball arena and the the owner of
58:07
Speaker 1: the arena is captured and people are being ludgend and
58:11
Speaker 1: killed backstage and nobody knows about it. Out of all this,
58:14
Speaker 1: you gotta be funny. Is that pressure? Yeah? Well, let
58:18
Speaker 1: me tell you what's crazy about this whole movie and
58:21
Speaker 1: how I got it. And you always hear the notion
58:23
Speaker 1: there's no small part um in this business. Your whole
58:28
Speaker 1: career on this interview have been crazy, and so you
58:31
Speaker 1: can use the word crazy but it really kind of
58:33
Speaker 1: like kind of like it's the exclamation mark of everything
58:36
Speaker 1: that happened in your life. My thing about you is
58:38
Speaker 1: that when you give an opportunity to dude, you go
58:41
Speaker 1: for That's what I give you, and I give you
58:44
Speaker 1: credit for that. Man, that's following your passion with with
58:47
Speaker 1: with credibility and and and an absolute focus. You're amazing, dude.
58:51
Speaker 1: I gotta give you love on that one. Brother, Yeah,
58:53
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But this is how, this is how
58:56
Speaker 1: Welcome the Sun Death came about for me. I did
58:59
Speaker 1: a movie called to Cover Brother Too. Absolutely yeah, it's
59:05
Speaker 1: on Netflix now. Me and Michael G. White. We only
59:09
Speaker 1: had one day together shooting like one day, and I
59:13
Speaker 1: didn't really have any lines. I just had I just
59:16
Speaker 1: had to give Mike a face in the movie. And
59:18
Speaker 1: he kept cracking while we're filming. He kept going, I
59:21
Speaker 1: can't look at this guy without laughing. And so so
59:27
Speaker 1: we you know, met small talk, nothing crazy. All of
59:30
Speaker 1: a sudden, he d MS me like four or five
59:34
Speaker 1: months later and said, hey, man, I'm getting ready to
59:36
Speaker 1: this movie. Um, can I send you the script or
59:39
Speaker 1: can you call me to discuss it? So I called
59:41
Speaker 1: him and he was he pitches the movie to me
59:44
Speaker 1: and he goes, Dude, I really I really want you
59:46
Speaker 1: on this movie. And here I am. I'm like, Okay,
59:51
Speaker 1: he calling you telling you he really want you on
59:54
Speaker 1: this movie, right, Michael White is so, what time attitude
59:59
Speaker 1: do you have? Gary? You can like, is he kidding me?
1:00:03
Speaker 1: You know, Mike, Mike can want to b F Mike,
1:00:06
Speaker 1: you want to be f you know? And and I'm
1:00:08
Speaker 1: glad it was on the phone because you can't say
1:00:09
Speaker 1: no to By the way, but I knew I was
1:00:17
Speaker 1: gonna I didn't have to read the script. He was
1:00:18
Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying to the script and let me know
1:00:19
Speaker 1: if you want to do it. I already knew I
1:00:20
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Yeah, I already knew it. Um So
1:00:24
Speaker 1: I read it and then, like I said, it wasn't
1:00:27
Speaker 1: a lot of funny parts in it like that, and
1:00:31
Speaker 1: he just said, you know, I just want you to
1:00:32
Speaker 1: be you making yours. I called, I talked to the director.
1:00:36
Speaker 1: We had lunch. He gave me, you know, he gave
1:00:38
Speaker 1: me his blessing, like, dude, make it yours, make it funny.
1:00:42
Speaker 1: We'll do We'll do it take according to the script.
1:00:44
Speaker 1: But we're gonna do takes where you can just do
1:00:46
Speaker 1: what you want. And the cool part about this movie
1:00:49
Speaker 1: is every day when you sit in the makeup trailer,
1:00:52
Speaker 1: and usually when you're in the makeup trailer it's early,
1:00:56
Speaker 1: you know, your energy is low and you're just trying
1:00:59
Speaker 1: to you know, you kind of in the script by yourself.
1:01:01
Speaker 1: Every time me and Michael had a scene together, which
1:01:03
Speaker 1: most of our scenes were together, because it's like it's
1:01:05
Speaker 1: like a buddy, it's like a rush out, and and
1:01:09
Speaker 1: he always would like sit back and we read lines
1:01:12
Speaker 1: together and we go over the scene. And so by
1:01:15
Speaker 1: the time we went to shoot and block, we had
1:01:18
Speaker 1: our own version. And give all credit to Dallas Jackson,
1:01:21
Speaker 1: the director. He was like, yeah, let's do it. And
1:01:24
Speaker 1: even Mike said, he goes, I'm telling him. I go,
1:01:27
Speaker 1: I go, hey, I thank them, like, dude, thanks for um,
1:01:29
Speaker 1: thanks for giving me some leeway and doing this. And
1:01:31
Speaker 1: he goes, he's not because I'm just happy I can.
1:01:34
Speaker 1: I'm giving you suggestions on jokes and you're using them.
1:01:37
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't think about that. So it was
1:01:42
Speaker 1: crazy because Mike's mind, he was like, yo, I can't
1:01:45
Speaker 1: believe Gario One just used one of my jokes. It
1:01:49
Speaker 1: was it was his movie. So I was like, yeah,
1:01:52
Speaker 1: let me. I like to be collaborative, so I was like, yeah,
1:01:55
Speaker 1: you know, the character and everything. So it was just
1:01:59
Speaker 1: it was so fun work with him, and and you know,
1:02:02
Speaker 1: to just to be wanted like that. I never had
1:02:05
Speaker 1: that experience to be a lead. I mean, yeah, I
1:02:08
Speaker 1: think Like a Man was great, but that was such
1:02:09
Speaker 1: a big ensemble and there were so make of it.
1:02:12
Speaker 1: But just the fact that everyone in the business, Mike
1:02:15
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I want Gary, and he really fought
1:02:18
Speaker 1: for me to be in the movie. Well, you know,
1:02:20
Speaker 1: and if it looked everybody know, first of it's a
1:02:22
Speaker 1: really good movie, and you're very funny, and Michael's very athletic,
1:02:25
Speaker 1: and he kicks. But I'm trying to figure out how
1:02:27
Speaker 1: this guy is killed kicking but looking the way he's
1:02:30
Speaker 1: looking at his age, but he looked amazing. He looks
1:02:33
Speaker 1: very limber, as they say. But it really is a
1:02:36
Speaker 1: starring role for you, and it's because of the fact
1:02:38
Speaker 1: that you're more than just the commedy relief. They come
1:02:41
Speaker 1: to you and strategic moments in the movie to move
1:02:43
Speaker 1: the story along, and that's what that's that's when it becomes.
1:02:46
Speaker 1: They've really given me an opportunity because you blow that movie.
1:02:49
Speaker 1: The story alone part doesn't have credibility, and then guess what,
1:02:52
Speaker 1: the story doesn't flow, and the story does flow. It's
1:02:54
Speaker 1: a really really good movie. Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited, man,
1:02:59
Speaker 1: I'm excited. It's coming out on September twenty nine, available
1:03:02
Speaker 1: on digital and DVD and Blu Ray. Welcome to Southern Death,
1:03:07
Speaker 1: Gary and Netflix as well. You know Dallas Jackson's director
1:03:12
Speaker 1: starting my man, Michael John Wright. Uh, Garrett, thank you
1:03:15
Speaker 1: for the time. Man, this is really hopefully on mind
1:03:17
Speaker 1: coming back on the show again. The first time I've
1:03:19
Speaker 1: talked to you in personal. I've seen you and we
1:03:21
Speaker 1: met each other many times to the side and shook
1:03:23
Speaker 1: hand adapt But you're really special, man, and I really
1:03:25
Speaker 1: respect what you've accomplished and will accomplished in this business
1:03:29
Speaker 1: and keep winning. Anytime you want to promote anything in
1:03:31
Speaker 1: your podcast, I got a million social media follows, I
1:03:34
Speaker 1: got a a fan email, fan list of every wins
1:03:37
Speaker 1: that's send out like ninety thousand social media I mean
1:03:39
Speaker 1: fan club followers. I'll promote your brother, T shirts, face mask,
1:03:43
Speaker 1: whatever you got. When you come to time, let me
1:03:45
Speaker 1: know Okay, I appreciate you man, Thank you all right.
1:03:50
Speaker 1: My next guest never thought she's become an entrepreneur, but
1:03:53
Speaker 1: once she had an idea, she put together playing together
1:03:56
Speaker 1: and set a budget and went forward. She never she
1:03:59
Speaker 1: has never looked back. Uh, my guests invented the Prima fabric,
1:04:02
Speaker 1: which is antibacterial sweat don't smell fabric. She launched a
1:04:07
Speaker 1: sale which I had to be a part of. We're
1:04:09
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that in the middle of the interview.
1:04:11
Speaker 1: She likened to sell lifestyle in augusteen with men's and
1:04:15
Speaker 1: men and women's shirts made out of this preparatory fabric.
1:04:19
Speaker 1: She always basically, she always knew there wouldn't have gonna
1:04:22
Speaker 1: be more applications for the fabric, but you always want
1:04:24
Speaker 1: to launch with jewelry that original line day. You always
1:04:27
Speaker 1: want to put your work into the idea. Make sure
1:04:28
Speaker 1: that don't just jump out there. I got a thousand ideas.
1:04:31
Speaker 1: She focused on that one idea, and when there a
1:04:33
Speaker 1: pandemic hit man, old man, did she pivot. Her company
1:04:38
Speaker 1: has sold with four hundred thousand facial masks during the pandemic.
1:04:42
Speaker 1: She's only show to talk about her making that right
1:04:45
Speaker 1: business decision. At the right time, during the pandemic and
1:04:48
Speaker 1: before the pandemic. Please work with the money making conversations.
1:04:51
Speaker 1: My different I call it different. I've been known this
1:04:53
Speaker 1: twenty seven I remember when I say I'm a one
1:04:56
Speaker 1: of I remember when friends, Okay, please work on Megan Edding, Sean,
1:05:04
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. We over here smiling. You're right,
1:05:06
Speaker 1: I mean we are friends. And yeahs when I first
1:05:10
Speaker 1: officially met you for the first business competition I ever entered,
1:05:14
Speaker 1: and a friendship was born pretty much that day. Absolutely,
1:05:17
Speaker 1: and you want it, by the way, let's go and
1:05:19
Speaker 1: let's go and add the other part of that. I
1:05:20
Speaker 1: believe they the winning first problem was like what ten
1:05:23
Speaker 1: thousand dollars something like that. It was ten thousand dollars. Yeah,
1:05:26
Speaker 1: we want Mayor Turner has a new business competition here
1:05:28
Speaker 1: in Houston, and I want Houston's best new product and
1:05:31
Speaker 1: uh fan favorite and ten thousand dollars, which Lord knows
1:05:35
Speaker 1: I needed. Well, we all need money, and we all
1:05:37
Speaker 1: need money to start a business. And what when you
1:05:40
Speaker 1: want it? What was your first thought? Because you get
1:05:42
Speaker 1: in the competition, there's a while. I have a good idea.
1:05:45
Speaker 1: What was the whole process of preparing for that competition.
1:05:49
Speaker 1: As we evolved to move involved into as you are
1:05:53
Speaker 1: now a multi tiered business. That is really uh. I
1:05:58
Speaker 1: guess one could say saw the facial mass market before
1:06:02
Speaker 1: a lot of people saw the facial mass market because
1:06:05
Speaker 1: it is a global industry now. But you stepped in
1:06:07
Speaker 1: with a pate fabricate that that works now and I
1:06:10
Speaker 1: also feel makes people feel safe now as well. But
1:06:13
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. In the beginning of twenty seventeen,
1:06:15
Speaker 1: you entered this contest, first flight of ten thousand dollars.
1:06:18
Speaker 1: I was hosting it Mayris Invester Turner was tired to
1:06:21
Speaker 1: had other people who were success stories as judges on
1:06:24
Speaker 1: the panel talk about that whole experience. Yeah, it was wild.
1:06:28
Speaker 1: Well that's that new business competition in seventeen. Um. I
1:06:33
Speaker 1: my fabric wasn't even like I didn't even submit it
1:06:35
Speaker 1: to get patented yet. I was still in the design phase,
1:06:38
Speaker 1: like working on it for about a year. But I saw,
1:06:40
Speaker 1: you know, let's go into this competition, because not only
1:06:42
Speaker 1: is there a competition which I love to win, you
1:06:45
Speaker 1: actually learned a lot. I've never owned a business before,
1:06:47
Speaker 1: so you have to attend, you know, all these classes
1:06:49
Speaker 1: every two weeks um you have to apply to get
1:06:52
Speaker 1: into the competition, and so the learning experience of just
1:06:55
Speaker 1: how to start your own company was amazing and just
1:06:57
Speaker 1: obviously the connections that I need. Uh, But it's interesting
1:07:01
Speaker 1: that was the first one I ever entered. And the
1:07:04
Speaker 1: word that I really started carrying around after that competition
1:07:08
Speaker 1: was confidence. Because all my close circle, my friends, my family,
1:07:12
Speaker 1: you know, people that I know, they've made great idea,
1:07:14
Speaker 1: great idea. But this was the panel of people I
1:07:16
Speaker 1: didn't even know that shows me his first place for
1:07:19
Speaker 1: my products. So I thought, Okay, I'm onto something. And
1:07:22
Speaker 1: that's when like I was really like confident. After that,
1:07:25
Speaker 1: I just keep going for it. Well, you know, the
1:07:27
Speaker 1: thing about it is that I can remember I was
1:07:29
Speaker 1: the judge. I was not judge. I was one of
1:07:30
Speaker 1: the hosts, and I got to see everybody's presentation. So
1:07:33
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that you want because you were you
1:07:36
Speaker 1: were introducing the concept, Uh there was I felt ahead
1:07:41
Speaker 1: of his time. Who doesn't who doesn't twit? And to
1:07:43
Speaker 1: go wow and lift up their arm and go that's
1:07:46
Speaker 1: pretty bad. I don't want anybody hugging me today. And
1:07:49
Speaker 1: and you were introducing the fabric that I felt people
1:07:53
Speaker 1: needed and people would wear. And so fast forward from seventeen,
1:07:57
Speaker 1: then you launched, actually launched your product and the name
1:08:02
Speaker 1: was A sale. How did you come up with the
1:08:03
Speaker 1: name of sale? A C C E L A C
1:08:07
Speaker 1: C E L L right e L A C C
1:08:09
Speaker 1: E L and then lifestyle And yeah, it comes from
1:08:12
Speaker 1: So chemistry is my background, and my husband he's not
1:08:15
Speaker 1: like legally part of the business, but he's married, so
1:08:17
Speaker 1: we're married. Therefore he kind of part of the clothing
1:08:22
Speaker 1: to come out in the video news that's right, Yeah,
1:08:25
Speaker 1: that was yeah exactly. Let's just say he's not on
1:08:28
Speaker 1: the LLC, but he's definitely you know, part of the team. Um.
1:08:32
Speaker 1: But so he majored in physics, that's his background. Literally,
1:08:34
Speaker 1: were just sitting on the couch and I wanted to
1:08:36
Speaker 1: think of a word to name the company that definitely
1:08:38
Speaker 1: had like a science kind of science feel because of
1:08:42
Speaker 1: course it is prepared proprietary fabric. But I also wanted
1:08:45
Speaker 1: to be a word that was positive, like a positive, empowering,
1:08:48
Speaker 1: empowering feel as well. So we just and this didn't
1:08:51
Speaker 1: just happened one night. Basically, you know, wrote out eighty
1:08:54
Speaker 1: words roughly and kind of went through and excel was
1:08:57
Speaker 1: short for the word accelerates. So accelerates obviously, like you know,
1:09:00
Speaker 1: kind of like a physics science word. And then um
1:09:03
Speaker 1: short to excel and just like accelerate your life, your health,
1:09:06
Speaker 1: your happiness, giving back, you know, all that positive stuff.
1:09:10
Speaker 1: UM is what the word excel represents. And it really
1:09:13
Speaker 1: because I remember that when it was launched. I remember
1:09:15
Speaker 1: I was part of your little brain trust. You had
1:09:18
Speaker 1: little quotes, ideas reach what do you think about this?
1:09:21
Speaker 1: What about? What do you think about this? And I
1:09:23
Speaker 1: throw back ideas and you know, because that's what you
1:09:26
Speaker 1: have to do. You can't be the smartest person in
1:09:28
Speaker 1: the room. And and you have to have people who
1:09:31
Speaker 1: are not trying to invest that I try to. If
1:09:33
Speaker 1: I give you the idea, you're only five percent, or
1:09:35
Speaker 1: you'll be a hundred dollars. You have to have people
1:09:37
Speaker 1: just believe in you so much they're willing to help
1:09:40
Speaker 1: you out. And that's or mentors that are professionals who
1:09:44
Speaker 1: understand the value of relationships and partnerships. That that's nothing
1:09:48
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with equity. It's about supporting someone.
1:09:51
Speaker 1: So you have a very strong support group. Tell us
1:09:53
Speaker 1: about it. I do I I say, like, I've you know,
1:09:58
Speaker 1: excelled then successfully and I work my it off, but
1:10:01
Speaker 1: I also know what my skill sets are and are not.
1:10:03
Speaker 1: And I am super blessed and we're showing you're part
1:10:05
Speaker 1: of that circle. I mean, like the amount of people
1:10:09
Speaker 1: that I never knew before I started this entrepreneurial journey
1:10:12
Speaker 1: that have since come forward, you know, and then I
1:10:14
Speaker 1: just met on this journey that have given me advice
1:10:16
Speaker 1: and you know, their expertise and you know, some of
1:10:19
Speaker 1: this kind of hard to hear, but that those people
1:10:21
Speaker 1: I want to listen to. Um, it's just been unbelievable.
1:10:25
Speaker 1: The relationships that I have forms both on a friendship
1:10:28
Speaker 1: level and on a business level with just people with
1:10:30
Speaker 1: these awesome expertise is that I don't have, and they've
1:10:33
Speaker 1: just been willing to share and tell us about about
1:10:36
Speaker 1: your the padnit product that you brought to the just
1:10:39
Speaker 1: to the stage. I want to make sure before we
1:10:42
Speaker 1: get into the mass, let's talk about that product that
1:10:44
Speaker 1: you pad Yeah, actually point how it's going to lead
1:10:48
Speaker 1: into the mass. So basically, my husband and I we
1:10:50
Speaker 1: got married five years ago. He's into fitness. We've always
1:10:53
Speaker 1: been into fitness. I live in Houston. Everyone's sweating all
1:10:56
Speaker 1: the time, even in the dead of winter, as you know.
1:10:58
Speaker 1: And so we got married. I'm like, man, started doing
1:11:01
Speaker 1: his laundry. You know, not that I don't do all
1:11:03
Speaker 1: the quote unquote wifely duties, but I was doing his laundry.
1:11:06
Speaker 1: Mind you, he does, he does, He does his own.
1:11:08
Speaker 1: Now put that out there. But um, and I was like, man,
1:11:11
Speaker 1: I'm like, these workout clothes still stink. And I have
1:11:14
Speaker 1: brothers back home in Rhode Island, so we all kind
1:11:16
Speaker 1: of know that smell like when the when the you know,
1:11:18
Speaker 1: the kind of musty, mildewy like bo smell that you
1:11:20
Speaker 1: just can't seem to wash out. And so I never
1:11:23
Speaker 1: thought I'd be an entrepreneur, but you know, chemistry is
1:11:25
Speaker 1: my background, and so I just kind of put my
1:11:27
Speaker 1: science hat back on and started figuring out why you're
1:11:30
Speaker 1: clothes stink. And to make a long story short, your
1:11:33
Speaker 1: clothes stink because bacteria gets trapped in the fabric. So
1:11:36
Speaker 1: I was launching my company last year basically, I was like,
1:11:39
Speaker 1: all right, you sweat as much as you want and
1:11:41
Speaker 1: it won't smell and it's anti bacterial and it's funny.
1:11:45
Speaker 1: No one and I tried in marketing, and I'm putting
1:11:47
Speaker 1: it out there. I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna
1:11:49
Speaker 1: focus on the you know, the sweb don't smell because
1:11:51
Speaker 1: the anti bacterial. I'm not doing a good job, you know,
1:11:55
Speaker 1: getting that out there on what that really means. It's
1:11:57
Speaker 1: actually disgusting that your clothes are holding onto back here. Yeah,
1:12:00
Speaker 1: but no one really seems to care about that aspect
1:12:03
Speaker 1: until much m m m m m m m m.
1:12:09
Speaker 1: March of here is the key for me in my
1:12:13
Speaker 1: relationship with Megan. I'm watching TV. I live in Houston.
1:12:18
Speaker 1: I tell people a long time, I also live in Atlanta,
1:12:20
Speaker 1: and so I'm watching the local news and there is
1:12:23
Speaker 1: a commercial and I tell my I said, I know her.
1:12:26
Speaker 1: I know her. That's that's Magan on my showy Main Confessation.
1:12:31
Speaker 1: And they're discussing how you was now suddenly going to
1:12:35
Speaker 1: manufacture mask of a need. And I believe I text
1:12:40
Speaker 1: you as a girl, you're owning something You're about to
1:12:43
Speaker 1: blow up. First of all, you were magnetic, you know,
1:12:47
Speaker 1: you're You're just amazing. During the interview, you you know,
1:12:49
Speaker 1: you know how to articulate in a very comfortable manner,
1:12:53
Speaker 1: who you are and what you're trying to do. You
1:12:55
Speaker 1: have a high degree of sincerity. All those qualities make
1:12:59
Speaker 1: sense when you're trying to launch a new product, especially
1:13:02
Speaker 1: when people didn't really understand the need to wear a
1:13:05
Speaker 1: mask because White House was sending out mixed signals and
1:13:08
Speaker 1: Texas you know, you know, we're in the don't mess
1:13:10
Speaker 1: with Texas state where they can't get mad if you're
1:13:12
Speaker 1: tell them what to do. And then so, but you
1:13:15
Speaker 1: said I'm gonna do this. What what what triggered you? What? What?
1:13:19
Speaker 1: What triggered you? And what triggered you to do it? Right?
1:13:22
Speaker 1: Because there was some other people who tried to do
1:13:24
Speaker 1: the mask, then they ship stuff out there, then people
1:13:26
Speaker 1: already fifteen mask and then they out they sold out.
1:13:30
Speaker 1: What made you make a full commitment to it? Let's talk.
1:13:33
Speaker 1: You know, I'm wanna I wasn't an dred cent. Sure
1:13:36
Speaker 1: it was gonna work, but it just it felt right.
1:13:38
Speaker 1: I prayed about it. I mean basically, March twentie was
1:13:40
Speaker 1: a Friday. I woke up just like any other day.
1:13:43
Speaker 1: I go to my couch, you know, working from home
1:13:44
Speaker 1: at the time. Started working in my consultant in New Jersey.
1:13:47
Speaker 1: She's like, hey, Meg, um, you know, she's up in
1:13:49
Speaker 1: the point you Jersey, New York with She's like, yeah,
1:13:53
Speaker 1: she's like mad, She's like healthcare workers and her sisters
1:13:55
Speaker 1: a nurse, and she's like, health care workers are running
1:13:57
Speaker 1: out of face masks? What about turning your prema fabric
1:14:00
Speaker 1: into face masks? And immediately when she said I remember
1:14:04
Speaker 1: the feeling. Immediately when she said it, I'm like, holy,
1:14:06
Speaker 1: you know what. You know? It was always important to
1:14:09
Speaker 1: me to have this fabric source that made here in
1:14:11
Speaker 1: the States. So I had a bunch of fabric here
1:14:13
Speaker 1: in Houston, and I had a bunch of fabric out
1:14:15
Speaker 1: in my factory in l A. I knew nothing about
1:14:17
Speaker 1: a pattern for a face mask, but I figured like, okay,
1:14:19
Speaker 1: we can figure it out. So I just kind of
1:14:22
Speaker 1: went balls to the wall because it felt right, And
1:14:25
Speaker 1: within twenty four hours we had a prototype. I had
1:14:28
Speaker 1: twenty five local sewers lined up in Houston because I
1:14:30
Speaker 1: already had fabric here. Uh. And then Monday morning, like
1:14:34
Speaker 1: three days later, I went to all the hospitals in
1:14:36
Speaker 1: the Houston Medical Center and dropped off samples of our
1:14:39
Speaker 1: masks and then crickets, I'm telling you, crickets for like
1:14:45
Speaker 1: four days. Um, none of the I thought the hospital
1:14:47
Speaker 1: is gonna be so excited, which they were excited, but
1:14:49
Speaker 1: no one was like placing in order. So I told
1:14:51
Speaker 1: all my local sewers and like, hey, don't start sewing
1:14:53
Speaker 1: anything yet, because as a business owner, the last thing
1:14:55
Speaker 1: you want to have is inventory. You know that there
1:14:57
Speaker 1: might have been a fluke about masks, and like, we're
1:14:59
Speaker 1: gonna sit on the fabric until somebody places a large
1:15:02
Speaker 1: order and fast forwards. Like four am Thursday morning, no
1:15:07
Speaker 1: one has placed an order yet. I tell you, something
1:15:10
Speaker 1: woke me up in the middle of the night at
1:15:11
Speaker 1: four am. And I call it God. People call it
1:15:14
Speaker 1: whatever they want, and all it said is start making masks.
1:15:18
Speaker 1: And I woke up that morning we knew over My
1:15:20
Speaker 1: husband said, I know, we haven't got an order yet,
1:15:23
Speaker 1: but I just heard from God to start making masks.
1:15:25
Speaker 1: So we're starting making mask today. He's like you sure,
1:15:27
Speaker 1: I'm like one. I told my mom. I told my team, like, Megan,
1:15:30
Speaker 1: are you sure it was just a big inventory investment,
1:15:32
Speaker 1: you know whatever. I'm like, no, We're doing it. It It
1:15:34
Speaker 1: was crystal clear. The next day we got an order
1:15:37
Speaker 1: for nine thousand mass from Houston Methodist and fourteen thousand
1:15:41
Speaker 1: mass from a local company, and after that it was
1:15:44
Speaker 1: just it was we just we just scaled quickly. And
1:15:48
Speaker 1: I think I think you reached out. I reached out
1:15:50
Speaker 1: to you, and then I dropped your mask, uh in
1:15:53
Speaker 1: my newsletter. Well you did. Yeah, I went out like
1:15:57
Speaker 1: ninety of my fan club members and then you and
1:16:01
Speaker 1: you were so excited you put it into your LinkedIn feed.
1:16:05
Speaker 1: I did, I did. I yeah. I mean I love Rashan.
1:16:08
Speaker 1: I love supporting you since day one, and you support
1:16:10
Speaker 1: you know, we just support each other. I mean, you know,
1:16:12
Speaker 1: in our community, and we believe that, you know, everyone
1:16:15
Speaker 1: can be successful and you've got to like support them,
1:16:17
Speaker 1: and yeah, I just go for but yeah, I guess.
1:16:19
Speaker 1: And it's funny that picture that you posted, so of
1:16:21
Speaker 1: course it's happened so quickly. Everyone's quarantined. So that picture
1:16:25
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1:16:27
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1:16:29
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Speaker 1: This is what I love about you a general. I
1:17:43
Speaker 1: just love your personality. Anytime I can just text you
1:17:45
Speaker 1: something like and said, what when I saw your TV,
1:17:47
Speaker 1: I went, girl, you're about to blow up. This is amazing.
1:17:50
Speaker 1: You better get ready, I hope. So I said, no,
1:17:54
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. You're about the ride. I'm a promoter.
1:17:57
Speaker 1: I know what I see greatness. I know when I
1:17:59
Speaker 1: see something that feels good, it feels needy and sincerity
1:18:03
Speaker 1: and everything was just timing and sself just right. But
1:18:06
Speaker 1: the key in this conversation was that Richard I was
1:18:09
Speaker 1: based in Houston. The information I got to move forward
1:18:13
Speaker 1: came from another part of the country, in the New
1:18:16
Speaker 1: York New Jersey area. If you was waiting to make
1:18:19
Speaker 1: a decision in New in Houston, that may have never happened,
1:18:23
Speaker 1: but you followed the information source, and the information source said, hey,
1:18:27
Speaker 1: it might not be bad as it is, well you
1:18:31
Speaker 1: think it is, but in New York we're on fire
1:18:33
Speaker 1: with COVID running out of everything, mass ventilators, everything. And
1:18:38
Speaker 1: then you had to follow up on your willingness to
1:18:42
Speaker 1: trust yourself. That's when you woke up and said, I
1:18:46
Speaker 1: feel the time is right and then it was it
1:18:49
Speaker 1: just took off when you when you use when you
1:18:51
Speaker 1: say the word took off one day. That's why when
1:18:53
Speaker 1: I sent there, when I when you sent me that order,
1:18:55
Speaker 1: I just told my staff, I said, make up some
1:18:56
Speaker 1: type of make up, some type of ad. Let's put
1:18:59
Speaker 1: it in the news to make it look good. And
1:19:01
Speaker 1: it was the most click It was at the bottom
1:19:03
Speaker 1: of the newsletter. It was and my newsletters alone, if
1:19:05
Speaker 1: anybody's registered for money making Conversation dot com, the fan close.
1:19:08
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, And and she was at the bottom,
1:19:12
Speaker 1: not because I wanted to put it at the bottom.
1:19:15
Speaker 1: She was the most clicked item in the newsletter, the
1:19:19
Speaker 1: most clicked in the newsletter. And so that let me know,
1:19:22
Speaker 1: right there, I went, she's on the something. She's at
1:19:24
Speaker 1: the bottom at the newsletter. And people are gonna way
1:19:26
Speaker 1: down there because of the good content. But when they
1:19:28
Speaker 1: get down there, they go click click click, And then
1:19:34
Speaker 1: you start different packages. And and I remember said you
1:19:37
Speaker 1: need to put some logos or something. When we shot,
1:19:40
Speaker 1: let me try to. I gotta let me, let me
1:19:42
Speaker 1: work on this problem, let me let me get the mask.
1:19:46
Speaker 1: Well you start, we just shut up, shut up, And
1:19:49
Speaker 1: then you came back with Shawn, I got the logo,
1:19:51
Speaker 1: I got the kids. We got the logo, we got
1:19:54
Speaker 1: the kids. The last Friday, one hundred thousand, literally fifty thousand,
1:19:59
Speaker 1: fifty black labels showed up for us to sew onto
1:20:01
Speaker 1: our masks. Wow. So now now this is such a journey. Now,
1:20:05
Speaker 1: one of the questions that how do you go from
1:20:07
Speaker 1: selling T shirts and tank tops to sell them over
1:20:10
Speaker 1: four hundred thousand face masks and being on contract with
1:20:13
Speaker 1: the Marines, U S, Navy and Navy Seals. Tell us
1:20:16
Speaker 1: about that, you know, the process was actually the exact same.
1:20:21
Speaker 1: So because I had already gone through the process from
1:20:23
Speaker 1: making a T shirt and the patterns and you know,
1:20:25
Speaker 1: sewing and understanding you know enough to be dangerous with
1:20:28
Speaker 1: all that, actually creating the masks wasn't that difficult? Um?
1:20:34
Speaker 1: The one word that I have and how does this happen?
1:20:37
Speaker 1: How does this happened? You know, is relationships literally relationships
1:20:41
Speaker 1: like the new like over a hundred thousand of our
1:20:44
Speaker 1: masks have been already sold and shipped to the Marines,
1:20:46
Speaker 1: the Navy Seals in the Navy, and now we're actually
1:20:48
Speaker 1: working on custom clothing for the Navy Seals using my
1:20:52
Speaker 1: fabrics because of this. And the only way that happened
1:20:55
Speaker 1: is I'm on some business group here in Houston, and
1:20:58
Speaker 1: one of the ladies in the groups super not. She
1:21:01
Speaker 1: volunteers her time and mentors people in the military, I mean,
1:21:05
Speaker 1: And so she hit me up, like, you know, weeks
1:21:07
Speaker 1: three of Corona. She said, Hey, a buddy of mine
1:21:09
Speaker 1: and the Navy supply chain guy looking for face masks.
1:21:12
Speaker 1: They can't find any. Can you take care of him?
1:21:14
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, you know, let me know. And
1:21:15
Speaker 1: at this point I don't I don't need shifted out
1:21:17
Speaker 1: like twenty masks, and he's like, yeah, we need fifty
1:21:20
Speaker 1: thousand face masks in the next seven days. I'm like, okay,
1:21:23
Speaker 1: let me mix some phone calls. So I had fifty
1:21:25
Speaker 1: thousand face masks shipped to him in the next six days. Um.
1:21:28
Speaker 1: And then that's just spread like wild, you know fires
1:21:31
Speaker 1: throughout the military. And that's how we got the other contracts. Um.
1:21:34
Speaker 1: But yeah, now we're talking about you know, isolation gowns, gloves,
1:21:37
Speaker 1: like all sorts of ppe that the military just can't
1:21:40
Speaker 1: seem to get. But because I was able to deliver
1:21:42
Speaker 1: and deliver early in quality products for the masks, early on.
1:21:45
Speaker 1: Now my foot from the door. It's been nuts. It's
1:21:50
Speaker 1: then I'm even talking about like, yeah, you know, okay,
1:21:56
Speaker 1: I'm amazed you're talking to me today during this interview.
1:21:59
Speaker 1: I know, I feel blessed that I'm actually allowed being
1:22:03
Speaker 1: allowed to hear your story. So it's always a pleasure
1:22:06
Speaker 1: talking to when you know, when you guys reached out
1:22:08
Speaker 1: and I'm like, heck, yeah, let's get it on the calendar. Yes, please,
1:22:12
Speaker 1: thank you. And so just so, now, what makes your
1:22:16
Speaker 1: mass work? We have a lot of competition out there.
1:22:19
Speaker 1: Where do you feel makes your mask work? And and
1:22:22
Speaker 1: why do you because you now you have for children,
1:22:24
Speaker 1: you have masks for children. So there's a difference between
1:22:27
Speaker 1: a mask when adult and a mask for a child.
1:22:30
Speaker 1: So yeah, what what what do people come back to
1:22:33
Speaker 1: you and say about your mask? Breathable? It's funny, so antibacterials.
1:22:38
Speaker 1: The reason people are really buying it just because it
1:22:41
Speaker 1: is a cleaner fabric. But then the feedback that I'm
1:22:44
Speaker 1: getting that compared to other masks, is breathable. A lot
1:22:48
Speaker 1: of masks out there today, especially in the summertime, or
1:22:50
Speaker 1: if you're a teachering at to wear a mask all
1:22:52
Speaker 1: day or if you're at work, it's just not breathable.
1:22:56
Speaker 1: Your face gets really hot and sways. But not only
1:22:58
Speaker 1: are antibacterial, even after you wash it, you know, it's reusable,
1:23:02
Speaker 1: Even after you wash it a hundred times, it's still
1:23:05
Speaker 1: anti bacterial. No bacteri is going to get in that fabric,
1:23:08
Speaker 1: so it's clean. It protects you from corona as long
1:23:11
Speaker 1: as you're wearing the mask, and then breathable. Um. We
1:23:14
Speaker 1: started with adult mass as you know, and then people
1:23:16
Speaker 1: kept reaching out for kids, and I just thought, oh,
1:23:19
Speaker 1: you know, if if there's a consumer there that the
1:23:21
Speaker 1: credit cards working, I'll create anything. And with my morals
1:23:25
Speaker 1: and ethics, we then, you know, we then launched some
1:23:28
Speaker 1: kids maths and yeah, it's just a cleaner, safer option
1:23:33
Speaker 1: than a lot of masks that are out there today.
1:23:35
Speaker 1: You know, you know, because you know, I always go
1:23:37
Speaker 1: to your probably a couple of times a month. I
1:23:39
Speaker 1: always go to your timeline just to see what good
1:23:42
Speaker 1: you're doing in the community. Because that's what I really
1:23:45
Speaker 1: do love about you, Megan, is that you get back
1:23:48
Speaker 1: and you know, your success is not something to translate
1:23:51
Speaker 1: into a selfish option of how much I can do
1:23:54
Speaker 1: for myself, but I've seen you donate mask and I
1:23:57
Speaker 1: don't want to give your story. Tell us something good
1:23:59
Speaker 1: that being sick, tessful, being able to pivot in the
1:24:02
Speaker 1: pandemic and sale mass. You've not forgotten about helping other people.
1:24:06
Speaker 1: Tell us about that side of you. Yeah, thank you.
1:24:09
Speaker 1: I mean it's and that's the thing, like you know,
1:24:10
Speaker 1: to grow us. It's a business and then it's successful.
1:24:13
Speaker 1: I mean whatever someone deems that successful and then be
1:24:16
Speaker 1: able to give back on a greater scale. That's the
1:24:18
Speaker 1: stuff that gets me going. Um, I love it. So
1:24:21
Speaker 1: I let's see, we've donated thousands of masks to homeless shelters,
1:24:24
Speaker 1: to hospitals, um to police. Basically, what I did is,
1:24:28
Speaker 1: at the time I had eight people. I more now,
1:24:30
Speaker 1: but there were eight people working for me full time,
1:24:33
Speaker 1: and so I gave them all like a whole week.
1:24:35
Speaker 1: I had them individually patched pack every single mask, and
1:24:38
Speaker 1: then they were tasked over the next few days to
1:24:41
Speaker 1: choose any nonprofit they wanted to give those masks too.
1:24:44
Speaker 1: I said, But the key is it has to be
1:24:46
Speaker 1: someone that could really use it. I mean, like this
1:24:49
Speaker 1: could be like life changing for their industry, for their health, etcetera.
1:24:53
Speaker 1: So to see people, you know, and I empowered them
1:24:55
Speaker 1: my team to go out and I didn't just tell
1:24:57
Speaker 1: them like, yo, here's a nonprofit I want to donate to.
1:24:59
Speaker 1: I did my own, but it was wonderful to see
1:25:01
Speaker 1: the team build it like like empower them to go
1:25:03
Speaker 1: out and give back. Um. I started a scholarship on
1:25:07
Speaker 1: Born and Raised. As you know, Rhode Island. It's a
1:25:09
Speaker 1: very small town. And I remember when I was in
1:25:12
Speaker 1: high school, I got a like a CVS scholarship for
1:25:14
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks, and I will never forget it. It It
1:25:17
Speaker 1: was like it was like I want a million dollars,
1:25:19
Speaker 1: like five hundred bucks on like holy smokes. And so
1:25:22
Speaker 1: I formed to Excel Lifestyle Scholarships that I'll do every year.
1:25:26
Speaker 1: Um God willing forred Bucks for a young female, Bucks
1:25:31
Speaker 1: for young male. And the two stipulations are they have
1:25:34
Speaker 1: to be going to school for something in the science,
1:25:36
Speaker 1: mass technology, or engineering, and they have to have a
1:25:40
Speaker 1: passion for giving back. So it was really cool that, uh,
1:25:43
Speaker 1: you know, this is the first year I was able
1:25:44
Speaker 1: to give a scholarship to to you know, deserving you know,
1:25:48
Speaker 1: young adults, and you know, just to see how that
1:25:50
Speaker 1: made them, you know, feel and hopefully lessen their stress
1:25:53
Speaker 1: level as they go into college. Well, we know where.
1:25:55
Speaker 1: I have an endowment at the University of Houston, and
1:25:59
Speaker 1: I know that hundred dollars. It's cool, but it really
1:26:03
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for you. You know, when you start
1:26:06
Speaker 1: getting into that number that you're trying to do. It
1:26:08
Speaker 1: makes a difference for a student. And I'm not slamming anybody.
1:26:11
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that every little bit helps. Let's let's
1:26:14
Speaker 1: put it that with and uh and for you to
1:26:16
Speaker 1: take your time and remember and uh coming from that
1:26:20
Speaker 1: big old state of rural island. Yeah, you know when
1:26:24
Speaker 1: when you think about it, you know because uh, the
1:26:26
Speaker 1: University of Virginia, that's when you went to college there, right,
1:26:30
Speaker 1: and chemistry, what's your degree plan? And so you go
1:26:34
Speaker 1: to Houston and you're living down there, you just every
1:26:38
Speaker 1: day nine to five person, never even thought about being
1:26:41
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and now you are a not on an entrepreneur,
1:26:45
Speaker 1: but you are an empowered female entrepreneur. Your leader responsibility
1:26:50
Speaker 1: comes with that. Megan, two, that's a good question. What responsibility.
1:26:57
Speaker 1: So there's a responsibility I put on myself, and then
1:27:00
Speaker 1: there's probably the perceived responsibility that I'm expecting from the
1:27:04
Speaker 1: culture and community or whatever. So I would say the
1:27:07
Speaker 1: biggest responsibility that I've ever been asked that question before,
1:27:11
Speaker 1: good question, Rashan, and I got to make sure that
1:27:14
Speaker 1: what I got to make sure the biggest responsible is
1:27:17
Speaker 1: probably you know, besides business, you know, make sure the
1:27:19
Speaker 1: cash flows their inventory dot dot dot. On a global perspective,
1:27:23
Speaker 1: the biggest responsibility I have is that what I'm out
1:27:25
Speaker 1: there saying I'm trying to do with my company to empower,
1:27:28
Speaker 1: to motivate, to encourage, no matter what the product is
1:27:31
Speaker 1: I'm selling, is that everyone on my team feels that,
1:27:35
Speaker 1: and that my at that the customers and the community
1:27:37
Speaker 1: of my company feel that as well. So people can
1:27:40
Speaker 1: say things all day long like I'm to have a
1:27:42
Speaker 1: company that's you know, doing good for the community and
1:27:44
Speaker 1: positive and uplifting. But if I don't live that life
1:27:48
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, and that's the way my team
1:27:50
Speaker 1: and I project our mission of our company, that that
1:27:53
Speaker 1: I'm not doing my jobs, I say that's the biggest
1:27:55
Speaker 1: responsibility that I put on myself period. And the reason
1:28:00
Speaker 1: I say that because the reason I say that because
1:28:02
Speaker 1: you know, as as a we live in the era
1:28:05
Speaker 1: of disbelief. No, that's not true. She can do that.
1:28:08
Speaker 1: You know, attractive person, You're small, and some people tend
1:28:11
Speaker 1: to want to believe. You know, people who look a
1:28:14
Speaker 1: certain way can't accomplish certain things. And and you're doing it.
1:28:18
Speaker 1: You're doing it. You're the own way. You still putting
1:28:21
Speaker 1: family first, you did putting God first. You still have
1:28:23
Speaker 1: a clear understandable community. Be responsible to the community is
1:28:27
Speaker 1: important you. I'm speaking to Megan eating. She has an
1:28:30
Speaker 1: incredible fabric sweat. Don't smell fabric that is uh. I
1:28:34
Speaker 1: like to say, turn to face facial mass businic upside down.
1:28:37
Speaker 1: Because you're wanted the first independent. Like I said, the
1:28:40
Speaker 1: big corporations are in it now, okay, Nike, anybody who's
1:28:44
Speaker 1: they're all out there. You see you see commercials on TV.
1:28:47
Speaker 1: You go your ads in the TV. But I call
1:28:49
Speaker 1: you an independent. You wanted the people or a local
1:28:53
Speaker 1: independent who's competing with these big boys who have commercials
1:28:57
Speaker 1: of programmatic social media ads, ads on TV, print ads.
1:29:02
Speaker 1: So you expect them to win with that, you know.
1:29:05
Speaker 1: And it's really funny because you came in the athletic field.
1:29:09
Speaker 1: What you already knew that that lifestyle where I was
1:29:12
Speaker 1: going to be competitive, and you came in basically behind
1:29:16
Speaker 1: because they all got the shell's field. They already out
1:29:19
Speaker 1: in the front of the homeline. You're trying to tell everybody,
1:29:21
Speaker 1: So you were, uh, the pandemic allowed you to pivot
1:29:24
Speaker 1: into an industry where your tenacity, your hard work, your
1:29:29
Speaker 1: innovative thought process kind of started at the same time.
1:29:33
Speaker 1: So it really gave you a feeling that you can compete,
1:29:35
Speaker 1: not saying you weren't competing when you was out there
1:29:38
Speaker 1: with the lifestyle, but being able to start out the
1:29:40
Speaker 1: gate and everybody said go at the same time, it
1:29:43
Speaker 1: really gave you an opportunity, opportunity to really show your skifts,
1:29:47
Speaker 1: your the God gave you. Correct you are exactly right.
1:29:50
Speaker 1: And so I always like, Lega, how did you get
1:29:53
Speaker 1: with the mask? You know, you know the bunch of
1:29:54
Speaker 1: states timing because I remember saying, like the first month
1:29:58
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, Okay, if I can already be on
1:30:01
Speaker 1: the contract with military, and you know how like Houston
1:30:04
Speaker 1: methodis now purchased forty four thousand, If I can do this,
1:30:08
Speaker 1: why are you the other companies doing this that have
1:30:10
Speaker 1: the supply chain, Like why aren't they doing it? And
1:30:12
Speaker 1: then I kind of stopped asking myself that question and said, well,
1:30:15
Speaker 1: they're not doing it, that's all that matters. And so
1:30:17
Speaker 1: because I came out of the gate first, and you know, media,
1:30:20
Speaker 1: t V, etcetera. Picks that story up. That's why we
1:30:24
Speaker 1: just came out first and kind of step the groundwork.
1:30:26
Speaker 1: And then we started to see other companies trickling in, etcetera, etcetera.
1:30:29
Speaker 1: And you know, now everyone's making a face mask. Um.
1:30:32
Speaker 1: But one of the benefits, and I tell everybody this
1:30:35
Speaker 1: is that you know, we had an idea and we
1:30:37
Speaker 1: just took a risk. You know, I didn't make a
1:30:39
Speaker 1: hundred thousand face mask hoping for a buyer. I mean,
1:30:42
Speaker 1: for the most part, I I had buyers way before
1:30:45
Speaker 1: I even I could fulfill the orders. I just I
1:30:48
Speaker 1: took the risk. I took the risk and put myself
1:30:50
Speaker 1: out there. And and that's why I tell everyone to do, like,
1:30:53
Speaker 1: don't wait around for someone else to do it, because
1:30:55
Speaker 1: that's gonna be too late. Like just put it out there.
1:30:57
Speaker 1: You don't have to put out there in a huge fashion,
1:30:59
Speaker 1: but just put something out there, um, and then just
1:31:02
Speaker 1: go forward. Because a huge benefit is because we came
1:31:04
Speaker 1: out of the gate first, and that's really important that
1:31:07
Speaker 1: you were courageous enough. And you know, I always tell
1:31:10
Speaker 1: people being an entrepreneur and being in you can't be
1:31:13
Speaker 1: afraid of making a mistake. You can't be afraid of
1:31:16
Speaker 1: waking up. Sometimes a lot of people fear fear failure.
1:31:19
Speaker 1: And this is one of those really unique moments where
1:31:22
Speaker 1: you know the perfect storm where you want to know something.
1:31:25
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go forward because I write instincts makes sense,
1:31:29
Speaker 1: And especially with your mask is because it's important because
1:31:32
Speaker 1: now used to see people you know they mask, they
1:31:35
Speaker 1: take the mask, especially on news now to keep the
1:31:37
Speaker 1: mask on. So it's important where I've learned how to
1:31:40
Speaker 1: be able to talk with a mask on, because that's
1:31:43
Speaker 1: the lifestyle that we are going to live in. Because
1:31:47
Speaker 1: Dr Anthony Faucci stated COVID nineteen is not going anywhere.
1:31:51
Speaker 1: If you expect to be hugging people you don't know,
1:31:53
Speaker 1: high five and people you don't know, dapting people you
1:31:56
Speaker 1: don't know in one or two, that's not gonna happen.
1:32:00
Speaker 1: The way we have lived, our lives will never be
1:32:02
Speaker 1: the same. So you are at the at the at
1:32:05
Speaker 1: the stage of an industry. I feel it's not going anywhere.
1:32:09
Speaker 1: It's just how long, how do you build it? And
1:32:11
Speaker 1: how do you hold on to it? How do you
1:32:13
Speaker 1: hold onto it and maintain and sustain growth in this
1:32:16
Speaker 1: and this? I guess we'll just say this growing facial
1:32:20
Speaker 1: mass industry, sure, I mean you you gotta always keep
1:32:24
Speaker 1: it fresh. Um, I staid, I have fun to have
1:32:25
Speaker 1: a creative session with my team tomorrow. So right now,
1:32:28
Speaker 1: as far as adult mask, you've only been doing black
1:32:30
Speaker 1: and white. So we're, you know, coming into the holidays, Halloween,
1:32:33
Speaker 1: We're gonna start offering some graphics on the adult Yeah,
1:32:37
Speaker 1: and we gotta always stay fresh. So I'm I'm branching
1:32:41
Speaker 1: even outside of face masks, getting into isolation gowns and
1:32:44
Speaker 1: other you know, hot needed ppe items. So the way
1:32:48
Speaker 1: to like stay the way to stay relevant is just
1:32:51
Speaker 1: always have and you know this from your background, is
1:32:53
Speaker 1: just have material that people want to see and products
1:32:56
Speaker 1: that people want to buy. So masks are one thing,
1:32:59
Speaker 1: and definitely getting more of a crowded space, you know,
1:33:02
Speaker 1: full disclosure, Like now everyone's selling a mask. So because
1:33:05
Speaker 1: my foot's already in the door with some universities, the
1:33:08
Speaker 1: military hospitals, I'm now creating other products. Um that I
1:33:12
Speaker 1: know they needed want and uh, so we're started. I
1:33:15
Speaker 1: started another company, UM called excel Protects, where we're getting
1:33:19
Speaker 1: a purchase order this week for thirty thousand isolation gowns
1:33:22
Speaker 1: from a huge hospital system up in the Dallas area.
1:33:25
Speaker 1: And I just filed for that design patent last Friday,
1:33:28
Speaker 1: so it's now patent pending for my new isolation gown design.
1:33:32
Speaker 1: And so we're getting into gowns as well. She's got
1:33:34
Speaker 1: always just not be afraid to pivot, not be afraid
1:33:37
Speaker 1: to fail. Um, if it feels right, just keep doing it.
1:33:40
Speaker 1: My dear, She's my friend. Maybe in seventeen, I always
1:33:43
Speaker 1: I would like to say she's my first. Uh you
1:33:46
Speaker 1: know you are started money making conversations in May of
1:33:48
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. She was one of my first guests on
1:33:51
Speaker 1: my show in the fall of that year, and I
1:33:53
Speaker 1: just loved the growth of my show at my brain
1:33:56
Speaker 1: and watching the growth of her brain and watching it pivot,
1:33:59
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I have to say this honest,
1:34:01
Speaker 1: I love you to death, Megan It, and I appreciate you,
1:34:05
Speaker 1: and I will support you and always send me links.
1:34:08
Speaker 1: I will support you on my social media, I will
1:34:10
Speaker 1: support you on my podcast. And my syndicated radio show,
1:34:15
Speaker 1: in my newsletter. I believe in you and don't change
1:34:18
Speaker 1: and keep winning it because you're very, very very special
1:34:21
Speaker 1: and you're a testament to hard work and also trust
1:34:24
Speaker 1: in your natural instinct because that's how you win. You
1:34:27
Speaker 1: have to one day wake up and go it's on me.
1:34:29
Speaker 1: I believe in me. Let's move forward. That's right. And
1:34:33
Speaker 1: if you don't, if you don't believe in yourself a
1:34:35
Speaker 1: hundred percent, like just can't. I don't know, I say
1:34:37
Speaker 1: to myself confidence confidence, confidence, I actually say that out woud.
1:34:40
Speaker 1: I mean, no one is a hundred percent confident. We
1:34:42
Speaker 1: all have times where we're like, you know, feeling a
1:34:44
Speaker 1: little insecure for whatever, but you gotta coach yourself. Just
1:34:47
Speaker 1: pushed through it. And Rashawn, I love you too. I
1:34:50
Speaker 1: mean you're one of my biggest supporters. I'm one of
1:34:52
Speaker 1: your biggest supporters. You've clearly blown up. I mean you're
1:34:58
Speaker 1: like all over the world. I heart radio, like you're everywhere.
1:35:01
Speaker 1: So whatever I can do is continue supporting you. You know,
1:35:04
Speaker 1: I'll do well. We know when those October masks come out,
1:35:07
Speaker 1: let Rushan know so I can put it on social
1:35:09
Speaker 1: media and we can keep winning together as friends. All right,
1:35:12
Speaker 1: keep winking. Thank you, Rashan. Alright, tell your husband. I
1:35:15
Speaker 1: tell the family hot down there now, tell them live
1:35:17
Speaker 1: and support you and believe in everything you guys are
1:35:19
Speaker 1: doing that and keep giving good service to the community. Okay, Megan,
1:35:23
Speaker 1: thank you Rashan. Okay, I appreciate you. Bye bye, We'll
1:35:26
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Speaker 1: Jones is uniquely gifted in one thing, drawing out what's
1:36:41
Speaker 1: best in you and helping you take your brilliance to
1:36:44
Speaker 1: the bank. That's b a n K bank, not fishing bank,
1:36:47
Speaker 1: to the bank. A veteran of the entertainment industry and
1:36:50
Speaker 1: the coworked and talent management and casting before shifting her
1:36:53
Speaker 1: talents to help others bank roll their brilliance, she now
1:36:56
Speaker 1: works with entrepreneurs to create multiple strings of income to
1:37:00
Speaker 1: We talk about that all the time on the show
1:37:02
Speaker 1: for what they already know in order to build an
1:37:04
Speaker 1: empire from their expertise. Women are the fastest growing group
1:37:08
Speaker 1: of entrepreneurs, and the number of business owned by black
1:37:11
Speaker 1: women has grown by standing in a hundred and according
1:37:14
Speaker 1: to the Fellow Reserves, Please welcome. She's here to talk
1:37:18
Speaker 1: about banking that brilliance to the bank expertise, entrepreneurship. Please
1:37:23
Speaker 1: work with the money making conversation. You know our j
1:37:26
Speaker 1: that's Nicole Roberts Jones. How can I not be excited
1:37:30
Speaker 1: to be here after all of that energy? I'm gonna
1:37:32
Speaker 1: try to keep myself, you know, contained though, so excited
1:37:36
Speaker 1: to be here. You're gonna keep yourself contin First of all,
1:37:39
Speaker 1: what you're calling from so we can find out? I
1:37:41
Speaker 1: live in Boston, I'm but I live in Boston, So
1:37:44
Speaker 1: that's where I am. Now, Yes, what keeps you in Boston?
1:37:47
Speaker 1: What's going on in boss family? What's going on in Boston? Yeah?
1:37:50
Speaker 1: My husband got a job here, so I do what
1:37:52
Speaker 1: I do for whatever. So yes, he is the reason
1:37:54
Speaker 1: why we moved to Massachusetts. Okay, cool, that's all good.
1:37:57
Speaker 1: That's all good. That's just trying to let I try
1:37:59
Speaker 1: to figure out what it is a bundle of energy
1:38:01
Speaker 1: and inspiration is residing it? So you well up there? Where?
1:38:05
Speaker 1: If that? I've been the Boston a couple of times
1:38:08
Speaker 1: in my career, very familiar with that landscape up there. Um.
1:38:12
Speaker 1: The interesting thing about you as a talent Okay, you
1:38:16
Speaker 1: established your brand in Los Angeles. I'm assuming that's what
1:38:19
Speaker 1: talent management and casting. Let's talk about that early journey,
1:38:23
Speaker 1: and we'll move up to just probably crossed because I've
1:38:26
Speaker 1: worked in comedy for years and we can talk probably
1:38:28
Speaker 1: for the next hour about that. But yes, so I
1:38:30
Speaker 1: started really my dream since I was eight years old
1:38:34
Speaker 1: was to work in entertainment. How how eight years old? How? Yes?
1:38:42
Speaker 1: So literally I got to the place I dreamed of
1:38:46
Speaker 1: and something felt like it was missing. And so that,
1:38:49
Speaker 1: in essence, long story short, is how I came to
1:38:52
Speaker 1: do this work I'm doing now. I started to really
1:38:54
Speaker 1: look at how could I be doing the thing I
1:38:56
Speaker 1: dream of? And I loved it. Don't get me wrong,
1:38:57
Speaker 1: I didn't hate any part of it, but it just
1:39:00
Speaker 1: like that was more for me to do. And so
1:39:02
Speaker 1: that is how I shifted over. I started this over
1:39:06
Speaker 1: twenty seven years ago, even though I'm only twenty eight.
1:39:09
Speaker 1: I shifted to You didn't even listen to my intro.
1:39:15
Speaker 1: Mighty baking conversation interviews will encourage you to leave with
1:39:18
Speaker 1: your gifts and never use age as an excuse when
1:39:21
Speaker 1: plenty of your I tell everybody degree you cannot allow
1:39:26
Speaker 1: that for some reason life as you as you know,
1:39:30
Speaker 1: you know people talking about they don't want to turn
1:39:32
Speaker 1: thirty always twenty nine. Don't want to turn always thirty nine.
1:39:35
Speaker 1: But you cannot accomplish anything in life unless you get
1:39:38
Speaker 1: older and look exactly and I look, and I'm fifty
1:39:41
Speaker 1: and I'm seasoned because it's only because she's a good
1:39:45
Speaker 1: looking a good looking I would have never known. But
1:39:50
Speaker 1: that lets me know. I'm talking to a person with experience,
1:39:53
Speaker 1: and let me know that because you know, to be successful,
1:39:56
Speaker 1: there's there's a certain degree of honesty that has to
1:39:58
Speaker 1: be laid out there. Especially we're telling people multiple streets
1:40:00
Speaker 1: of income because everybody wants that. Everybody wants to understand
1:40:05
Speaker 1: how they can be a part of that opportunity. But
1:40:07
Speaker 1: you have to have experience, you have to create a
1:40:10
Speaker 1: track record, and you have to surround yourself with people
1:40:13
Speaker 1: who believe in your passion and turn that passion into
1:40:16
Speaker 1: economic opportunity. You can not do that if you're an
1:40:20
Speaker 1: eighteen years old all your life, I'm sorry. Yeah, And
1:40:23
Speaker 1: then it starts with getting clear. So when I just
1:40:26
Speaker 1: told you that I had an epiphany moment. In epiphany
1:40:29
Speaker 1: moment at the time, I was working on the hottest
1:40:32
Speaker 1: TV show on Fox right at an epiphany moment, and
1:40:35
Speaker 1: every girlfriend that I talked to him saying, girl, are
1:40:36
Speaker 1: you crazy? Do you realize we went to this red
1:40:38
Speaker 1: carpet event and we went to this premiere. Are you crazy?
1:40:41
Speaker 1: But something inside of me knew there was more? And
1:40:44
Speaker 1: so I'm sharing that because that more. It's not about money,
1:40:47
Speaker 1: It's about making a difference. I mean, you make difference,
1:40:49
Speaker 1: money comes. And so what I began to look at
1:40:53
Speaker 1: is what is this thing rumbling inside of me? Now?
1:40:56
Speaker 1: At the time, I was twenty three years old, I
1:40:57
Speaker 1: had no I know, no life experience, but I knew
1:41:01
Speaker 1: that something was calling me into another level of me.
1:41:04
Speaker 1: And so it took an introspective look. Many of us
1:41:07
Speaker 1: look for an outside answer to an inside yearning, and
1:41:11
Speaker 1: so I stopped looking for outside answers and I started
1:41:14
Speaker 1: spending time with me, started getting closer to God and
1:41:17
Speaker 1: really looking at what is it that you have me
1:41:19
Speaker 1: on this earth to do? And that shifted everything. Now,
1:41:23
Speaker 1: you got to tell me what was the name of
1:41:25
Speaker 1: that TV show? Because people are gonna go, you can
1:41:27
Speaker 1: you can? I do this interviews? I was on the
1:41:29
Speaker 1: hottest TV show and thirty minutes later we hadn't even
1:41:32
Speaker 1: mentioned the show. What's the name? So yes, so I
1:41:34
Speaker 1: worked in Cassie on The Martin Show. That for four years,
1:41:37
Speaker 1: I worked on Death Comedy Jam. I worked with Simmons, Lathan,
1:41:41
Speaker 1: Bruce sin Gray, which is where I passed probably cross
1:41:43
Speaker 1: SLBG Entertainment. So um work for some pretty great listen
1:41:48
Speaker 1: stand Lathan is still my all time favorite boss, right,
1:41:52
Speaker 1: and so did our first when Steve Harvey. Now I
1:41:55
Speaker 1: went to television. You know, stay Lathan has always been
1:41:59
Speaker 1: good to me as a as a mantor person. I
1:42:02
Speaker 1: see and I just stopped and have to hug it.
1:42:04
Speaker 1: You know. I saw at the at the Holly Robinson
1:42:07
Speaker 1: Pete uh Annual Foundation fundraiser, so I got a picture,
1:42:12
Speaker 1: took a picture with him. I said, you love me. So,
1:42:14
Speaker 1: Stanley the Stand was an absolute best boss, and it
1:42:17
Speaker 1: was it was while working with him that I had
1:42:20
Speaker 1: this epiphany. So it was really hard because stand again,
1:42:22
Speaker 1: when you work with stan you feel like family. You
1:42:24
Speaker 1: don't feel like you're working a job. A matter of fact,
1:42:27
Speaker 1: when I quit, stan said, what can I do to
1:42:29
Speaker 1: cap you stay? So he made it hard for me
1:42:32
Speaker 1: to leave. But I knew that there was more out
1:42:34
Speaker 1: there waiting for me, and so that in essence had
1:42:38
Speaker 1: me leave my Hollywood dream. That don't get me wrong,
1:42:40
Speaker 1: I missed all the Hollywood parties, right, But what I'm
1:42:43
Speaker 1: doing more, I realized, now I'm taking I took the
1:42:46
Speaker 1: same exact things I was doing in casting and talent management,
1:42:50
Speaker 1: and now I help people actually manage their talent. How
1:42:53
Speaker 1: did they take their gifts and talent and actually make
1:42:56
Speaker 1: money from it? Okay, let's let's talk about this is
1:42:59
Speaker 1: Hollywood life, you know, because I lived that Hollywood life.
1:43:02
Speaker 1: Let's see. See I'm talking to somebody. She she's at
1:43:05
Speaker 1: the top of the chromes. Okay, that's what at the
1:43:07
Speaker 1: top of the that's a different game. When you walk
1:43:09
Speaker 1: on red carpet to people, people know you can hide them, girl,
1:43:13
Speaker 1: can you can? You? You have my picture? And so
1:43:16
Speaker 1: what are some of the now famous are people or
1:43:20
Speaker 1: that you worked with as far as talent management, as
1:43:22
Speaker 1: far as casting over the years in that career before
1:43:25
Speaker 1: we moved forward to the bank roll in your brilliance?
1:43:29
Speaker 1: So in casting, I worked with Eileen Night she became
1:43:33
Speaker 1: you know right. So I worked on several Rock Martin.
1:43:36
Speaker 1: As I said, I worked on media. Man. Guys, you
1:43:39
Speaker 1: know how old I am. So now you got my
1:43:40
Speaker 1: memory going? I worked on Media Man. I worked on
1:43:42
Speaker 1: several movies. I can't even Media Man exactly. And he
1:43:47
Speaker 1: had a TV show called Towns and Television. I worked
1:43:49
Speaker 1: on that. So I worked on several teams and several
1:43:53
Speaker 1: movies right and and then when I left there, when
1:43:55
Speaker 1: I went to work with Stan, we managed many of
1:43:57
Speaker 1: the Deaf Company Jam comedians, so Bill Bellamy Show, Tory Guy,
1:44:01
Speaker 1: Tory Um Center, the Entertainer Um. And then I got
1:44:05
Speaker 1: to also work, you know, like during the audition process
1:44:08
Speaker 1: for many other Deaf Comedy Jam comedians, so um so
1:44:12
Speaker 1: I interface uh Del Gibbons, uh event Will sent. I'm
1:44:15
Speaker 1: like trying to remember all the names of the people
1:44:18
Speaker 1: that we got to manage and so really having hand
1:44:21
Speaker 1: in their career shifting from just comedy to doing movies
1:44:24
Speaker 1: and TV and stuff like that. You know, with Sean,
1:44:27
Speaker 1: it was struggling to get on Deaf Comedy Jam because
1:44:29
Speaker 1: you know, you probably looked at my little video with
1:44:32
Speaker 1: now I passed, Okay, that was Bob Sumner, you know Bob,
1:44:35
Speaker 1: that was and I interviewed something too. I said, Bob,
1:44:39
Speaker 1: because I'm taking a little side story about me. So
1:44:41
Speaker 1: I started doing stand up comed before you know, I
1:44:44
Speaker 1: was in the white game. You know, I was at
1:44:45
Speaker 1: the White coming Jared Seinfield, all that, Bill Hicks and
1:44:50
Speaker 1: then it's Leary that was me. So when the death
1:44:52
Speaker 1: Janet Jeff Comedy Jeff popped out, you know, they looked
1:44:55
Speaker 1: at me, go, now, you can't make black people laugh.
1:44:58
Speaker 1: That to me, and so I had to to a
1:45:00
Speaker 1: black Black comedy competition in Oakland make the finals and
1:45:05
Speaker 1: then they went, okay, you can make black people laugh.
1:45:08
Speaker 1: Were good the black comedy. And Ricky Harrison was on
1:45:13
Speaker 1: our clients to black comedy. So when Guy Tory started
1:45:15
Speaker 1: Fat Tuesdays at the Comedy Store, I was actually on
1:45:18
Speaker 1: his team. So I would always say he would do
1:45:19
Speaker 1: the frintend and I would do the back because I
1:45:21
Speaker 1: managed the room for him. That was one of my
1:45:22
Speaker 1: last jobs in comedy. And you know, just there's so
1:45:26
Speaker 1: many talented people. But here's the thing, somebody needs to
1:45:29
Speaker 1: write this down where they're in comedy or you are
1:45:31
Speaker 1: working at nine to five, the people that make it,
1:45:34
Speaker 1: to the people that don't quit. You know, Chadwick Boseman
1:45:37
Speaker 1: just passed right not too long ago, and when you
1:45:40
Speaker 1: look at the fact that he had cancer for six
1:45:43
Speaker 1: or four of his last years in the best movies
1:45:46
Speaker 1: he made was why he was fighting for cancer. How
1:45:49
Speaker 1: many people would quit and say, I'm sick, I'm going
1:45:51
Speaker 1: through keymore, I can't do this. And so it's really
1:45:54
Speaker 1: the people that stay in it and don't give up.
1:45:57
Speaker 1: And I saw so many comedians that were funny, it
1:45:59
Speaker 1: just wasn't their time. It was the people that didn't
1:46:01
Speaker 1: give up, that that we're willing to risk it all
1:46:03
Speaker 1: the game at all that literally made it to the
1:46:07
Speaker 1: big stage and that and they didn't compromise who they were.
1:46:10
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this, and somebody's gonna get me
1:46:12
Speaker 1: for saying this. But one of the things that I
1:46:14
Speaker 1: didn't like about comedy it's how everybody thought, oh, well,
1:46:16
Speaker 1: Bernie Mac is really funny and he's dirty, so maybe
1:46:18
Speaker 1: I need to be dirty. Well that's who Bernie Mac was,
1:46:21
Speaker 1: So you're trying to be dirty because he's like that
1:46:23
Speaker 1: doesn't make you funny and makes you trying to be
1:46:25
Speaker 1: Bernie Mack. And God didn't make you with the cookie cutter,
1:46:28
Speaker 1: so why are you trying to copy somebody else's brilliance
1:46:30
Speaker 1: and make it your own. I agree, And it really
1:46:35
Speaker 1: interesting when you used the word dirty comedy comic, they
1:46:38
Speaker 1: used vulgarity, and it's always he Bernie Mac would digress
1:46:44
Speaker 1: a little bit because I was I'm a former stand
1:46:46
Speaker 1: up comedy comedian. If you curse in your punchline any
1:46:49
Speaker 1: with the coursework, then guess what people always heard that
1:46:52
Speaker 1: curse work. Okay, ye now I remember, and I'm tear him.
1:46:56
Speaker 1: I was as salty as anybody on stage. And I
1:46:58
Speaker 1: remember people will come out to me, go, you really
1:47:00
Speaker 1: have a really good clean act. I go, did they?
1:47:02
Speaker 1: Did they hear me? Did they hear me? Because of
1:47:05
Speaker 1: how I just folke and how I communicated and you know,
1:47:08
Speaker 1: and and the one thing that the gift that you
1:47:11
Speaker 1: really have, Nicole, is that you're a great communicator. You know,
1:47:15
Speaker 1: even in this interview, I'm I just want to talk
1:47:19
Speaker 1: to you. I just want to engage you and just girl,
1:47:22
Speaker 1: what you're doing over You know, I can talk to
1:47:25
Speaker 1: you for a minute now because you usually have the
1:47:28
Speaker 1: right tools of conversation. Even a great comedian. All a
1:47:34
Speaker 1: great comedian is as a storyteller. Even there, I say, Jesus,
1:47:38
Speaker 1: if you read all the stories in the Bible of
1:47:39
Speaker 1: him doing stuff, it's stories, right. And so when you
1:47:43
Speaker 1: think about it. Even the greatest CEOs have the greatest
1:47:47
Speaker 1: story behind them. You think about people like Tyler Perry,
1:47:50
Speaker 1: the fact that he lived in a car, right, and
1:47:52
Speaker 1: so the Steve Rvey Right. We can go on and on.
1:47:55
Speaker 1: It's the story that people follow. So when you're on
1:47:58
Speaker 1: stage or when you're on listen, you could be a
1:48:00
Speaker 1: stage as a comedian or a CEO of a business,
1:48:02
Speaker 1: regardless of what that stage is, whether it's a platform,
1:48:05
Speaker 1: a boardroom or classroom or boutique, whatever that is. It's
1:48:08
Speaker 1: the story people remember. My Angelus said, people forget what
1:48:11
Speaker 1: you did, that forget what you said, but they always
1:48:15
Speaker 1: remember how you made them feel. It's the story that
1:48:19
Speaker 1: connects people heart to heart. Sold us all, Oh my goodness,
1:48:23
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna turn home if I get sick.
1:48:25
Speaker 1: I'm gonna key let in R and J feeling for me.
1:48:29
Speaker 1: And I love that you're calling me NRJ because my
1:48:31
Speaker 1: my close friends call me that. As soon as we
1:48:34
Speaker 1: got on the line and you said, I just felt
1:48:35
Speaker 1: laughing like you know this brother knows me already. Absolutely.
1:48:39
Speaker 1: That's my gift, you know, And that you know it's
1:48:41
Speaker 1: always funny, is that Steve Harvey is always getting know,
1:48:44
Speaker 1: I just walk in the room when he just go
1:48:46
Speaker 1: and I tell him by different people go, you ain't
1:48:48
Speaker 1: even met that person. I go, I don't need to.
1:48:51
Speaker 1: I just had a I just have a sense of people.
1:48:54
Speaker 1: We have a sense of who are wasted my time
1:48:57
Speaker 1: and who's gonna even if they're waste my time, at
1:48:59
Speaker 1: least I own conversation. The extent of this conversation. Okay,
1:49:03
Speaker 1: you need to talk to everybody. I never stopped talking
1:49:05
Speaker 1: to anybody just because I devalue what they was going
1:49:08
Speaker 1: to bring to the table. Because I thought that in
1:49:10
Speaker 1: having a conversation, I was educated myself and I understand
1:49:13
Speaker 1: understood some things about myself, and that comprehending my ability
1:49:16
Speaker 1: to be successful. Now if the ability to be successful
1:49:19
Speaker 1: right now though, Nicole, is that you're willing to share
1:49:22
Speaker 1: an uplift, Why is that so important in the in
1:49:25
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial space. M So, I told you the story
1:49:30
Speaker 1: of me coming to that crosshold where I knew there
1:49:32
Speaker 1: was more for me to do. So to make a
1:49:35
Speaker 1: long story short, and I have to tell you the
1:49:37
Speaker 1: story so you understand since I just talked about storytelling,
1:49:39
Speaker 1: but I just want you to understand the context of
1:49:41
Speaker 1: why I'm so passionate about it. So when I left
1:49:44
Speaker 1: to start my business. Really what happened is one of
1:49:47
Speaker 1: my good girlfriends invited me to volunteer at a program
1:49:50
Speaker 1: that was happening at our church. And one night, as
1:49:52
Speaker 1: I walked in that church, and those of you that
1:49:53
Speaker 1: are familiar with a lock in at a church where
1:49:55
Speaker 1: they locked the kids in and they do activities. In
1:49:57
Speaker 1: other words, it's a sleepover. It just just locked in.
1:49:59
Speaker 1: Because you know, I don't know a day lockin sounds
1:50:01
Speaker 1: bad now, but back then it sounded good anyway. Um,
1:50:04
Speaker 1: And so when I started working with young women that night,
1:50:06
Speaker 1: as I worked with them, their eyes lit up. And
1:50:09
Speaker 1: as their eyes lit up, my heart lit up, and
1:50:11
Speaker 1: I realized, oh my god, this is what I'm meant
1:50:13
Speaker 1: to do, really helping them figure out and carving out
1:50:16
Speaker 1: a path for their future. But this was a glamorous
1:50:19
Speaker 1: like my nine right, nobody was begging down any door
1:50:23
Speaker 1: to do this work. Now again, this was in. There
1:50:26
Speaker 1: was no such thing as a coach, but that's what
1:50:28
Speaker 1: I was doing that night, And so I realized I
1:50:31
Speaker 1: had to figure this thing out. So in I started
1:50:34
Speaker 1: my business. So some seventeen years later, by two thousand
1:50:37
Speaker 1: and ten, I had gotten to the exact place I
1:50:39
Speaker 1: dreamed of when I started. So by then I had
1:50:42
Speaker 1: a nonprofit and a for profit in my business, and
1:50:45
Speaker 1: my nonprofit, I had ten chapters and ten states working
1:50:48
Speaker 1: with those teenage girls, and we were growing by leaps
1:50:51
Speaker 1: and bounds. In my for profit, I had a maxile
1:50:54
Speaker 1: coaching client roster, meaning I couldn't take another client coaching
1:50:57
Speaker 1: women and a few gentlemen really helping them understand how
1:51:00
Speaker 1: to bank roll their brilliance. Right. But and because I
1:51:04
Speaker 1: connected to the client, I wrote my first book that
1:51:06
Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and ten. And now I'm
1:51:07
Speaker 1: telling you guys all of that because what happened is
1:51:09
Speaker 1: I started getting invitation to speak all over the country,
1:51:12
Speaker 1: and so I was thinking to myself, oh my goodness,
1:51:15
Speaker 1: I've made it. But here's the thing. I was only
1:51:19
Speaker 1: generating thirteen thousand dollars in my business, which means I
1:51:24
Speaker 1: had a big, fat, uh you know, community service, because
1:51:27
Speaker 1: there's no way I was living off a thirteen thousand
1:51:29
Speaker 1: dollars so yes, at a daytime job, right which I
1:51:32
Speaker 1: was then adjunct professor at the time. So I'm telling
1:51:34
Speaker 1: you that story because I had gotten to a crossroad,
1:51:36
Speaker 1: and I said, listen, now, I prayed, Lord, if this
1:51:38
Speaker 1: is really you and this is what I meant to do,
1:51:40
Speaker 1: you better show me something. You better help me figure
1:51:42
Speaker 1: this out. And so I got on this free webinarum
1:51:45
Speaker 1: one night and I didn't track, you know how far
1:51:47
Speaker 1: it was from my prayer, because I didn't realize this
1:51:49
Speaker 1: was my breakthrough. On that free webinar invited me to
1:51:51
Speaker 1: go to a conference. When I got to that conference,
1:51:54
Speaker 1: I started seeing all the stuff I didn't know. At
1:51:57
Speaker 1: that commerence, I hired my first coach. So I'm telling
1:51:59
Speaker 1: you all of that because in my first coaching session,
1:52:01
Speaker 1: my coach said to me in the cowait a minute,
1:52:03
Speaker 1: So you used to work in talent development and in
1:52:06
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, and then you left there and you
1:52:08
Speaker 1: wouldn't got a master's degree, and your expertise is program development.
1:52:11
Speaker 1: So you're really great at developing programs, so much so
1:52:14
Speaker 1: that you got offered an advent profession position at USC.
1:52:18
Speaker 1: And now that you move to Boston, you teach at
1:52:19
Speaker 1: Boston University, and what you teach this program development. And
1:52:22
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, let me get my coach to knowing
1:52:24
Speaker 1: me and then she said, before you moved from California,
1:52:27
Speaker 1: you had a consulting practice, and what you did was
1:52:29
Speaker 1: you went into businesses. You work with celebrities, you work
1:52:32
Speaker 1: with heads of state, you work with nonprofits, and you
1:52:34
Speaker 1: develop programs. And I said yeah. And then the next
1:52:38
Speaker 1: day she said Vershwan was what shifted everything from me.
1:52:41
Speaker 1: She said, you don't have any programs in your own business.
1:52:45
Speaker 1: So here's the thing written down. But not only that,
1:52:49
Speaker 1: you can't only listen. If you only have in your
1:52:51
Speaker 1: business ways to generate revenue where you have to be present,
1:52:56
Speaker 1: you're already kepping off how much money you can make.
1:52:58
Speaker 1: Because if you only have eight hour in the day,
1:53:00
Speaker 1: First of all, you're not gonna work all eight hours
1:53:02
Speaker 1: or clients, whether it's coaching, consulting, or whatever it is,
1:53:04
Speaker 1: you're doing working wealthy, right, And so you've got to
1:53:08
Speaker 1: be able to do what I learned in that moment
1:53:10
Speaker 1: called making money while you sleep. And it's not just
1:53:12
Speaker 1: who I'm gonna developer online program. You've got to get
1:53:15
Speaker 1: clear on four things. I'm gonna tell you these four things,
1:53:18
Speaker 1: but let me tell I tell you the four things right,
1:53:20
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1:53:31
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean McDonald. The thing I appreciate about
1:54:46
Speaker 1: the whole situation is that when we go through life
1:54:49
Speaker 1: trying to figure out and people start calling, it's defining
1:54:54
Speaker 1: how much is our value? It's in five thousands, ten thousands,
1:54:57
Speaker 1: there's a thousand, and sometimes it's easy to go I'll
1:55:00
Speaker 1: be there, I'll be okay, thank you for And so
1:55:03
Speaker 1: you have to eventually find your value. And then and
1:55:08
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking. That's the part we're about to
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Speaker 1: go right now. That's where I'm going. Like, I've been here,
1:55:12
Speaker 1: I've been here, I've been here. I'm the worst person
1:55:14
Speaker 1: to manage myself. I hate the fact that I you
1:55:17
Speaker 1: know that that that I negotiate stuff, because sometimes I do.
1:55:20
Speaker 1: That's where I got good friends. Go. Man, you better
1:55:24
Speaker 1: go tell that dude to take a hike. That's you know,
1:55:26
Speaker 1: that's under your value. Okay, thank you man, because we
1:55:28
Speaker 1: always we always we don't value our intellectual property because
1:55:30
Speaker 1: we don't do what we do to us. Yes. So
1:55:33
Speaker 1: there's things that intrinsic to your DNA, which I call
1:55:35
Speaker 1: your distinct natural ability, that you do on autopilot. So
1:55:38
Speaker 1: you'll say things like and if you haven't said it,
1:55:41
Speaker 1: I know I have, oh done and everybody know how
1:55:42
Speaker 1: to do this, or oh this is easy? Well, yes,
1:55:45
Speaker 1: easy for you. Yes, And that's when sometimes you can
1:55:49
Speaker 1: get undervalue saying that I've done that and I've caught myself.
1:55:53
Speaker 1: But it's even more so the truth when you try
1:55:55
Speaker 1: to do it for yourself, you realize how difficult it is.
1:55:58
Speaker 1: It's easy, Like I was seriously, I I should know
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Speaker 1: Steve ry blood pressure with for breakfast, with it for
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Speaker 1: divery where he didn't like, if you like, coraborate, if
1:56:05
Speaker 1: you're like if what city you like to do in
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Speaker 1: Miami were like doing New York. I knew all that,
1:56:10
Speaker 1: But when I stopped managing him in twenty sixteen, I
1:56:13
Speaker 1: can tell you none of those things for Rashan, And
1:56:17
Speaker 1: so it was importantly easier probably for you to manage
1:56:20
Speaker 1: him than it was for you to manage. And it's
1:56:23
Speaker 1: not necessarily managed thing. But here's the thing. You begin
1:56:26
Speaker 1: to feel like, and I don't know about you, something
1:56:27
Speaker 1: to say me, you know, you feel like you're bragging
1:56:29
Speaker 1: about yourself or oh, well, how can I feel that
1:56:31
Speaker 1: about me? But it's like, no, I'm clearing who I
1:56:33
Speaker 1: am and I'm making an invitation. I'm not selling you.
1:56:36
Speaker 1: I'm making invitation because I know the predictable result. I
1:56:38
Speaker 1: can get you too, if you're willing to do the work.
1:56:41
Speaker 1: But there's a difference between you saying that about someone
1:56:43
Speaker 1: else and you're beginning to say that about you. It's
1:56:45
Speaker 1: like you have to shift your muscle from not pride
1:56:49
Speaker 1: but really being unapologetically who you are. And it was
1:56:53
Speaker 1: really interesting because that's why you have to have people
1:56:56
Speaker 1: around you. Okay and yeah, and sometimes staff there tell me, okay, rashan, Uh,
1:57:02
Speaker 1: you want a couple of Emmys? Huh? You want someone?
1:57:06
Speaker 1: You want some who you are? Right? You know because
1:57:09
Speaker 1: you think you know because that's what you're talking about,
1:57:11
Speaker 1: bragging on yourself. They remind me I'm a math degree. There,
1:57:14
Speaker 1: remind me that I was an award winning stand up comic.
1:57:17
Speaker 1: That remind me that I'm award winning baker. They remind me,
1:57:20
Speaker 1: I manage because you're not focused on who you were.
1:57:24
Speaker 1: You're focused on who you have not yet become. And
1:57:26
Speaker 1: that is and that is important. But you know what,
1:57:29
Speaker 1: but the important thing this conversation we're having is that
1:57:32
Speaker 1: if you don't understand your base, what do you build
1:57:35
Speaker 1: it off of? And can I just tell you the
1:57:37
Speaker 1: reason why I didn't make money in my business for
1:57:40
Speaker 1: seventeen years because I didn't understand my base. I didn'
1:57:42
Speaker 1: unerstand my brilliant I didn't take the time to create
1:57:45
Speaker 1: a strategy around it. You know, you know, not the
1:57:49
Speaker 1: last It's not the last time you're gonna be on
1:57:50
Speaker 1: my show. You know that I can talk, so I
1:57:53
Speaker 1: could be on your show anytime you want me. You
1:57:55
Speaker 1: will and you will be. You will be. I think
1:57:57
Speaker 1: you don't let you know that because because of the
1:57:59
Speaker 1: fact that we're talking the same lanes of conversation male female,
1:58:04
Speaker 1: and it's important that people understand that the value system
1:58:08
Speaker 1: works for both gender. Yeah, it doesn't. Black people, we
1:58:14
Speaker 1: have not done that because we're not having tools to
1:58:17
Speaker 1: for that to be communicated to us. We haven't had
1:58:21
Speaker 1: the family and the legacy that's that's been able to
1:58:24
Speaker 1: communicate our legacy there. I say this is slavery, doesn't
1:58:27
Speaker 1: mean we haven't done something since then. But we've had
1:58:29
Speaker 1: to really pull ourselves up our bootstrap. So our family
1:58:32
Speaker 1: members that did go to college in the nineteen hundreds
1:58:35
Speaker 1: right had to fight for that. And so for many
1:58:38
Speaker 1: of us, it's taken generation after generation after generation for
1:58:41
Speaker 1: us understand wealth, whereas some other cultures have it from
1:58:44
Speaker 1: the beginning. So I'm not downing what we've been through
1:58:47
Speaker 1: because we are strong people, but we've had to learn
1:58:49
Speaker 1: it in a different way. And I don't listen, I'm
1:58:52
Speaker 1: from South central l A. Let me keep it all
1:58:53
Speaker 1: the way. Well, those of you that saw Boys in
1:58:55
Speaker 1: the Hood, I grew up probably ten blocks from where
1:58:57
Speaker 1: they found that movie, So listen, I grew up robbing
1:59:00
Speaker 1: Peter to pay Paul. So here I am now with
1:59:02
Speaker 1: a multiple six figure business with a massive degree, you know,
1:59:05
Speaker 1: with eight people on my team working towards my million
1:59:08
Speaker 1: dollar year. And you know, when a neighborhood that I'm
1:59:11
Speaker 1: from would have to find my life by jail, drugs
1:59:14
Speaker 1: and drive by shootings, there's no way that I should
1:59:17
Speaker 1: be here where I am there's no way I should
1:59:20
Speaker 1: live on the East coast. There's no way, you know,
1:59:22
Speaker 1: I can continue. But all I can say is but
1:59:24
Speaker 1: God and then getting clear and who God created you
1:59:28
Speaker 1: to be and accepting nothing less. So with that real quick,
1:59:31
Speaker 1: because I don't want to leave this dangling is I
1:59:33
Speaker 1: want to tell people the four uh piece or four
1:59:37
Speaker 1: step framework to what I call my fierce formula. And
1:59:40
Speaker 1: I call it fierce because just like Beyonce created Socia
1:59:43
Speaker 1: fierce when she went out on her solo career and
1:59:46
Speaker 1: had to stand on stage for the first time and
1:59:48
Speaker 1: had to like conjure up enough courage to do it,
1:59:50
Speaker 1: many of us need to find the fierce inside of
1:59:52
Speaker 1: us as a fellas. If you can't say fear and safe,
1:59:54
Speaker 1: aerocious is all good? This is for you to right.
1:59:56
Speaker 1: So it's four steps and these are the four steps that,
1:59:58
Speaker 1: by the way, I went from thirteen thousand and a
2:00:00
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and six months with these four steps. Okay,
2:00:02
Speaker 1: So first it's passion, like what are you passionate about?
2:00:06
Speaker 1: That's why Brashanna and I can talk all day law
2:00:07
Speaker 1: because we both are passionate about bank rolling your brilliance? Right,
2:00:10
Speaker 1: So what could you do hour upon hour hour and
2:00:13
Speaker 1: never get paid for it. The second is what are
2:00:15
Speaker 1: you proficient in? Now? The first one and the second
2:00:18
Speaker 1: one has to correlate. You can't love it and be
2:00:20
Speaker 1: not good at it. That won't work, or you can't
2:00:23
Speaker 1: be good at it and not love it. So like
2:00:24
Speaker 1: for instance, Shelle Obama talked about this in her book
2:00:27
Speaker 1: Becoming She said, I was really great at being a lawyer.
2:00:30
Speaker 1: You know, was offered a partner in a law firm,
2:00:32
Speaker 1: but I hated it. So you've got to find those
2:00:36
Speaker 1: who have to correlate in. Those two are really your purpose,
2:00:39
Speaker 1: passion and proficiency. The third P is what problem does
2:00:42
Speaker 1: it solve? Because it ain't about you, it's about all
2:00:44
Speaker 1: those that need that gift inside of you. And then
2:00:47
Speaker 1: of course the fourth peace profit. So once you get
2:00:49
Speaker 1: clearing all four of those, that is really the missing
2:00:53
Speaker 1: ingredient for many people. That'st our businesses and really kept
2:00:56
Speaker 1: me from bank rolling my own brilliance. Now you also
2:00:59
Speaker 1: have out five tips to bank roll your bris. Yeah,
2:01:03
Speaker 1: now that's the four pas, right, that's the four pas.
2:01:06
Speaker 1: Passion piece is different no no no no no no
2:01:09
Speaker 1: no no no. When to be quiet and let me
2:01:11
Speaker 1: just I'd like to let everybody know the four peas
2:01:15
Speaker 1: is passion, proficiency, problem solving it in process. Okay, now
2:01:19
Speaker 1: you have five tips to bank roll your brilliance. I
2:01:22
Speaker 1: know you, I know you're up an interview with somebody
2:01:24
Speaker 1: like me. Just prepared. I'm prepared with when I get
2:01:27
Speaker 1: on the phone with a person like y'all, I've done
2:01:28
Speaker 1: my whole work. You know I'm not going to around here.
2:01:30
Speaker 1: This is in RJ Enterprise, the premier training and talent
2:01:33
Speaker 1: development company dedicated to help and you bank roll your brilliance. Okay, yes,
2:01:37
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it so yes,
2:01:40
Speaker 1: So five tips to back of your parents. Also, we
2:01:42
Speaker 1: talked about Look, we've talked about this so much that
2:01:44
Speaker 1: if y'all don't get this lesson by now, stop giving
2:01:46
Speaker 1: away your intellectual property for free. Yes, you know. Often
2:01:50
Speaker 1: times I'm on podcast or interviews like this and they
2:01:53
Speaker 1: talked to me about the side hustle, and I go, Nope,
2:01:54
Speaker 1: I don't call it a side hustle because if you
2:01:56
Speaker 1: look up hustle in the dictionary, it has pimp and
2:01:58
Speaker 1: prostitute in the definitive. And I'm not trying to have
2:02:01
Speaker 1: you pimp your gift. Hello, right, but many of us
2:02:04
Speaker 1: are many of you that are listening are pimping your gift.
2:02:06
Speaker 1: When someone says that you can I run this past you,
2:02:09
Speaker 1: Oh can I pick your brain? You're given away your
2:02:12
Speaker 1: intellectual property for free? Or Steve Harper would say, you're
2:02:15
Speaker 1: given away your cookie for free. Hello, right, right right?
2:02:23
Speaker 1: And then the second one once you get clear on
2:02:25
Speaker 1: what your intellectual property is. And again that's a four
2:02:27
Speaker 1: piece that I walked you through. You've got to build
2:02:30
Speaker 1: your business with the blueprint. You can't just do whatever winever. However,
2:02:33
Speaker 1: you've got to have strategy, just like they do when
2:02:36
Speaker 1: they have a house. When you building a house, you
2:02:39
Speaker 1: the your your construction folk will tell you to do
2:02:42
Speaker 1: a blueprint first. You got to do the same thing
2:02:44
Speaker 1: in your business and that blueprint should be built from
2:02:47
Speaker 1: your brilliant or intellectual property. Let me keep going through
2:02:51
Speaker 1: my five keep going. The third one is what you
2:02:56
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do? Is I say five? You stop it?
2:02:58
Speaker 1: To come on now? You are you sure? Look n
2:03:04
Speaker 1: I can talk for the next five hour. I'm just
2:03:06
Speaker 1: making sure because okay, number one, stop giving away your
2:03:11
Speaker 1: intellectual property for free. Number two, build your business with
2:03:14
Speaker 1: a blueprint. What's number three? And number three is you
2:03:17
Speaker 1: got to move past marketing and begin to build your
2:03:20
Speaker 1: no like and trust factor. So let me tell you
2:03:22
Speaker 1: what I mean. Right, so many people, you can buy
2:03:25
Speaker 1: the latest marketing program. Right, you can buy the latest
2:03:27
Speaker 1: marketing you can hire a marketing coach. If you're not
2:03:30
Speaker 1: clear on your brilliance, then what you're doing is you're
2:03:33
Speaker 1: becoming a cookie cutter. You're like becoming a stepparate wife
2:03:35
Speaker 1: in your business. And ain'tybody got time for that, right,
2:03:38
Speaker 1: So instead, I'd like to call it dating. You want
2:03:40
Speaker 1: to date your ideal client in your business. So I
2:03:44
Speaker 1: like to use an example when my husband and I
2:03:46
Speaker 1: went on our first date. If that brother would have
2:03:48
Speaker 1: brought my ring to the first date, I would have
2:03:50
Speaker 1: been calling my girlfriend like, girl, please come give me
2:03:52
Speaker 1: this man. It's crazy, but so many of us do
2:03:54
Speaker 1: that when we think, oh, I'm I'm gonna put up
2:03:56
Speaker 1: my website and I'm gonna put up a sales page
2:03:57
Speaker 1: and people just gonna buy. We don't know you, Hilaire. Right,
2:04:01
Speaker 1: They've got to start building ways for people to get
2:04:04
Speaker 1: to see the value that you bring it to their
2:04:06
Speaker 1: life for their business. And I call that dating. Even
2:04:08
Speaker 1: in your business, you're dating your ideal clients. I mean
2:04:10
Speaker 1: some free things. You're gonna give away some things for
2:04:12
Speaker 1: free before you put a ring on it, which me
2:04:14
Speaker 1: is they pay you to hire you a lot of
2:04:17
Speaker 1: people to understand that you don't have to get paid
2:04:19
Speaker 1: for everything and achieving your goals, right, But you've got
2:04:23
Speaker 1: to let people see who you are. Just because somebody
2:04:25
Speaker 1: hears me today doesn't mean i'mna hire her. No, you
2:04:28
Speaker 1: might think it was she real or does she really
2:04:30
Speaker 1: know what she's doing? So I've got to allow you
2:04:32
Speaker 1: to experience me and order same way. That's why you date.
2:04:36
Speaker 1: Because what if my husband was bringing this representative to
2:04:38
Speaker 1: the days, at some point I would have seen through
2:04:40
Speaker 1: the representative and said, brother, this ain't write something. It's
2:04:44
Speaker 1: not right that you should have multiple trees of income
2:04:48
Speaker 1: and one show should include money making while you yes,
2:04:54
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, if you only
2:04:56
Speaker 1: are doing things where you have to be president. I
2:04:58
Speaker 1: said this earlier, you're already capping how much money you make.
2:05:01
Speaker 1: So what I like to use it as an example.
2:05:03
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, between Thanksgiving and Christmas, I'm
2:05:06
Speaker 1: usally pretty slow just because I like to travel, and
2:05:08
Speaker 1: so this particular year I traveled more than I usually
2:05:10
Speaker 1: do between against Thanksgiving Christmas. So I went to Rome,
2:05:13
Speaker 1: to Barcelona, to Dallas, to Denver and to Montico Bay, Jamaica,
2:05:19
Speaker 1: and all of that in a month. And my business
2:05:21
Speaker 1: still generated eighty seven thousand dollars and I was not present.
2:05:25
Speaker 1: So you've got to look at how can you take
2:05:27
Speaker 1: your intellectual property, how can you be the answer to
2:05:30
Speaker 1: the people that need you, and how you package that
2:05:32
Speaker 1: so they can work with you, and whether it be
2:05:34
Speaker 1: online or some other way where again you're not present.
2:05:38
Speaker 1: And then that's but not leasing a step outside your
2:05:41
Speaker 1: comfort zone. Yes, because here's the thing. Comfort zones is
2:05:45
Speaker 1: where dreams go to die. And I say that because
2:05:50
Speaker 1: in order for you to do the thing that you
2:05:52
Speaker 1: really really want, you're gonna have to do it afraid.
2:05:54
Speaker 1: Let's ask listen, if we had Steve ive you on
2:05:57
Speaker 1: here right now and he was living in his car,
2:05:58
Speaker 1: you think you love living in his car? Heack to them.
2:06:00
Speaker 1: I'm sure I Seann could tell the stories from back
2:06:03
Speaker 1: then when Steve was living his car, or Tyler Perry
2:06:05
Speaker 1: or even there, I say, Oprah who left her twenty
2:06:08
Speaker 1: five years of her phenomenal TV show to start a
2:06:10
Speaker 1: TV network, and most of us forget that that first
2:06:13
Speaker 1: year it was the lowest rated television network out of
2:06:16
Speaker 1: all the networks, networks we've never even heard of, and
2:06:20
Speaker 1: yet Oh had to do the fraide. Sure she had
2:06:23
Speaker 1: a great TV show, but she knew how to run
2:06:25
Speaker 1: a network seven programming, and so what she had to
2:06:28
Speaker 1: be willing to do is risk it all to gain
2:06:30
Speaker 1: it Hall And that's the same thing you will have
2:06:33
Speaker 1: to do, the same thing I had to do when
2:06:35
Speaker 1: I started my business is I had to risk it
2:06:37
Speaker 1: all to gain it all. I had to be willing
2:06:39
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable. That's really important that you know. I'm
2:06:43
Speaker 1: gonna I'm opening my new office in October. I'm going
2:06:47
Speaker 1: to have a build a podcast studio in my new location.
2:06:51
Speaker 1: And because I want to do some video, okay, and
2:06:55
Speaker 1: I want to do some some some motivational videos with you.
2:06:58
Speaker 1: I just know I have to because you know you're
2:07:02
Speaker 1: special and your unique. You recommended I should interview you,
2:07:05
Speaker 1: and I kind of knew you, but then they were
2:07:08
Speaker 1: they were really and fatty, You're showing you gotta you
2:07:11
Speaker 1: gotta talk. You know, you know, people start just shaking
2:07:14
Speaker 1: their head to be staring at you kind of like
2:07:16
Speaker 1: are they are they gonna kill me if I say no?
2:07:18
Speaker 1: You know you gotta talk to you. They say, hull,
2:07:25
Speaker 1: not h hanging on Hull and so and you're just brilliant,
2:07:30
Speaker 1: and I just I really want to thank you for
2:07:32
Speaker 1: coming on the show. And the Coole, Roberts, Joe and
2:07:34
Speaker 1: r J Enterprises is a premier training and talent development
2:07:38
Speaker 1: company dedicated helping you bank roll your brilliance. We're gonna
2:07:41
Speaker 1: talk together talk again soon. You're fantastic. Uh definitely, Uh
2:07:46
Speaker 1: send me. You can tell them to send you your
2:07:48
Speaker 1: your contact information to me. So we sat down to talk. Okay,
2:07:51
Speaker 1: sound good, good, I appreciate you. Stay safe, okay, okay,
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