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Final Six Victories in the 1BBB, Cartels Outpace U.S. Law Enforcement in the Skies & Gabbard Drops the Receipts Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz, we can review
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  Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you, and here are the three major
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  Speaker 1: stories that you may have missed that we talked about
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  Speaker 1: this week. First up, we put together an incredible list
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  Speaker 1: of twelve things that you may not have known that
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  Speaker 1: we're in the Big Beautiful Bill that will impact your
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  Speaker 1: life in a major way. I've got the final six
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  Speaker 1: great things for you in today's list, and you can
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  Speaker 1: also go back and hear the entire list from earlier
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  Speaker 1: this week. Story number two real problem with enemy drones
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  Speaker 1: in the skies and the national threat they pose to
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  Speaker 1: our national security. So what can Congress do to protect
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  Speaker 1: all of us? We're going to break that down for
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  Speaker 1: you as well. And finally, in the biggest story of
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  Speaker 1: the week, the bombshell report from the Director of National
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  Speaker 1: Intelligence Tolsta Gabbard on Barack Obama what now is being
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  Speaker 1: described as treasonous actions by Obama and the Attorney General
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  Speaker 1: Pam Bondi has jumped into the case. It's the week
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  Speaker 1: we can review and it starts right now.
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  Speaker 2: I told you I'm going to give you twelve yeah,
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  Speaker 2: major conservative victories in the one Big Beautiful Bill. We're
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  Speaker 2: at six, I actually want listeners to pause for a second.
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  Speaker 2: How many of you could list the first six before
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  Speaker 2: this podcast? And I just want to make the point,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of job does the corporate media do. I'm
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  Speaker 2: willing to bet virtually none of our listeners could have
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  Speaker 2: listed those first six because the news hasn't covered it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's why we do this podcast to give you
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  Speaker 2: information so that when you're talking to your friends and
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  Speaker 2: your colleagues, you will know what's being accomplished. There's a
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  Speaker 2: reason President Trump is so excited about this one big,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful bill because it is massive, massive victories for America.
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  Speaker 2: Number seven, Number seven spectrum now spectrum. What is spectrum?
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  Speaker 2: Electromagnetic spectrum. It is how we communicate. It's how our
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  Speaker 2: cell phones work, it's how Wi Fi works, it's how
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  Speaker 2: satellites work, it's how streaming works. It's all of electronics spectrum.
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  Speaker 2: The largest holder of spectrum is the United States government.
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  Speaker 2: The United States Government has vast swaths of spectrum, and
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  Speaker 2: under Joe Biden, the United States Government stop making new
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  Speaker 2: spectrum available to the private sector. They ended auction authority.
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  Speaker 2: It was grotesquely irresponsible. It did massive damage to America.
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  Speaker 2: It destroyed jobs in America, and it let China get
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  Speaker 2: ahead of America. In this bill, I wrote the legislation
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  Speaker 2: that directs the federal government to auction to the private
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  Speaker 2: sector eight hundred megahertz of spectrum for private sector investment.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean? Number One, that will generate in
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  Speaker 2: excess of one hundred billion dollars of revenue to the
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  Speaker 2: federal government.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Real money. Now, even in government terms, one hundred billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars is real money. And listen, you and I are
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  Speaker 2: deeply concerned about the deficit and the debt. The entire
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  Speaker 2: commerce title that I wrote that had historic investments in coastguard,
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of other things, I ended up saving over
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  Speaker 2: forty billion dollars, reducing the deficit and the debt by
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  Speaker 2: over forty billion dollars. And the driver was because of
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  Speaker 2: spectrum auction authority we brought in. We will bring in
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  Speaker 2: one hundred billion dollars to pay down the debt. Credible,
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  Speaker 2: that's real money. But it's not the biggest piece of this.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest piece of this is by auctioning the spectrum off,
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  Speaker 2: we will open up billions and billions of dollars of
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  Speaker 2: private sector investment. The companies that buy this spectrum are
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  Speaker 2: going to invest. It is going to create hundreds of
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  Speaker 2: thousands of jobs. That is not an exaggeration. Hundreds of
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  Speaker 2: thousands of jobs. And you know what spectrum is all about,
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  Speaker 2: beating China to six G. I mentioned my consistent theme,
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  Speaker 2: beat China, Beat China in the Arctic with the Coastguard,
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  Speaker 2: beat China to six G with spectrum. And I got
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  Speaker 2: to tell you, three months ago there was nobody in
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  Speaker 2: Washington who thought we could get this done. Sat in
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  Speaker 2: the office of the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: a good friend of mine. I said, Mike, We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: do Spectrum on the one big, beautiful bill. And Mike
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  Speaker 2: laughed in my face. He's a good friend. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way, he said, there's no chance because the
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  Speaker 2: Department of Defense and the CIA will fight you. They
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  Speaker 2: will stop you. You cannot get it done. We not
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  Speaker 2: only got it done when I cut the deal and
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  Speaker 2: got it in the bill. President Trump called me the
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  Speaker 2: next morning. He said, Ted, this is incredible. This is like,
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  Speaker 2: how did you get such an incredible deal? Historic spectrum
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  Speaker 2: auction authority producing hundreds of thousands of jobs and beating
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  Speaker 2: China to six G that's in the bill. Number eight
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  Speaker 2: Air traffic Control. This bill invests twelve and a half
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars modernizing our air traffic control. To keep your
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  Speaker 2: family safer when you fly, to keep my family safer
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  Speaker 2: when we fly. To stop using outdated radars, to stop
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  Speaker 2: using computers that have floppy discs and sper copper wire.
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  Speaker 2: To modernize our air traffic control. A massive investment in
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  Speaker 2: keeping the American public safe. This bill. I wrote that
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  Speaker 2: portion that is also in the Commerce title. So I
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  Speaker 2: wrote that portion that will fund and improve air traffic control.
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  Speaker 2: A huge victory. Number nine Space YEP. This bill has
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  Speaker 2: ten billion dollars for NASA to go to the Moon,
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  Speaker 2: for the Artemis program, for the Gateway program, to beat
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  Speaker 2: China to the moon. China has said they intend to
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  Speaker 2: return to the Moon by twenty thirty. In my view,
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  Speaker 2: if we lose the Moon to China, it would be
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  Speaker 2: a catastrophic loss. It would be a loss if we
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  Speaker 2: woke up in a few years and China was on
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  Speaker 2: the Moon and China established a base on the Moon,
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  Speaker 2: which is what they said they intend to do with
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  Speaker 2: the Russians, and.
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  Speaker 1: They made that very clear. That is the sole intent
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  Speaker 1: of going. It's not just to go to the Moon,
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  Speaker 1: it's to have a base.
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  Speaker 3: On the Moon.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, if they did that and we lost, I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be worse than sputt in it that it
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  Speaker 2: would be a national body blow that would crush this country.
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  Speaker 2: And look, the Moon is critical number one for national security.
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  Speaker 2: The Moon is the high ground you look at. So
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  Speaker 2: much of our national security and so much of our
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  Speaker 2: commerce depends on satellites in orbit around the Earth. The
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  Speaker 2: Moon gives you the high ground. It is very dangerous
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  Speaker 2: for us to see that to China. It is unacceptable
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  Speaker 2: for us to see that to China. But number two,
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  Speaker 2: there are massive rare minerals on the Moon. There are
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  Speaker 2: enormous economic advantages. It is current US law that it
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  Speaker 2: is the policy of the American government to have a
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  Speaker 2: sustained human habitation either on the lunar surface or in
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  Speaker 2: cisar orbit. This investment in beating China to the Moon.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, the Moon is a stepping stone
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  Speaker 2: to Mars. We will go to Mars, but we haven't
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  Speaker 2: landed on a celestial body in over fifty years. So
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  Speaker 2: we're going to land on the Moon first to make
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  Speaker 2: sure we know how to do it, and then we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna go to Mars. This investment. I wrote this investment
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  Speaker 2: in there, I will say there was significant resistance, and
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  Speaker 2: without getting too much into the sausage making, we won
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  Speaker 2: against the resistance. This is in there. It is a
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  Speaker 2: massive investment. That is exactly right. That's number nine. Number ten,
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  Speaker 2: Cafe standards, the standards that mandate you keep having to
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  Speaker 2: have higher and higher fuel efficiency on your cars. That's
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  Speaker 2: what the Biden administration has used as its tool, as
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  Speaker 2: one of its tools to wage the war on the
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  Speaker 2: internal combustion engine, to try to force every car to
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  Speaker 2: be electric. Is they keep jacking up CAFE standards higher
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  Speaker 2: and higher and higher. What does that mean? Number what
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  Speaker 2: It drives up the cost of your cars. You notice
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  Speaker 2: cars have gotten a lot more expensive. Trucks have gotten
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  Speaker 2: a lot more expensive. Number two, it makes cars less
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  Speaker 2: safe because one of the ways you get the gas
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  Speaker 2: efficiency highre is you replace metal with plastics, cheap plastic
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  Speaker 2: that crumbles it in a crash and more people die.
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  Speaker 2: In the commerce section of the One Big Beauty Bill,
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  Speaker 2: you know what we did to cafe standards? What was
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  Speaker 2: that zeroed them out?
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  Speaker 1: Really they're gone, So it's actually in this so you're
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  Speaker 1: telling me that my car, instead of being all plastic,
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  Speaker 1: we have a little finger bird and everything breaks. They
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  Speaker 1: could actually go back and say, hey, we're not trying
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  Speaker 1: to save weight here, We're trying to actually make safe cars.
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  Speaker 2: It can be a great American car again made a
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  Speaker 2: steel tough as hell. And by the way, you want
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  Speaker 2: to buy electric car, great, that's your choice. You want
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  Speaker 2: to have to hybrid, great, you want to buy a
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  Speaker 2: gas car, great. It ought to be consumers choosing. And actually,
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  Speaker 2: the way we did this we very much modeled how
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  Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen we repealed the individual mandate on Obamacare,
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  Speaker 2: so that was a fight I led in twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: The individual mandate. The way we eliminated it is under
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  Speaker 2: the rules of reconciliation, we could not eliminate the legal
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  Speaker 2: mandate to buy health insurance, which was the individual mandate
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  Speaker 2: under Obamacare. So you know what we did. We made
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  Speaker 2: the penalty zero. So you used to be the irs
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  Speaker 2: finds you. If you didn't buy health insurance, the eye
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  Speaker 2: rest would find you. It is still the law. You're
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  Speaker 2: required to buy health atz don't, you will be fined
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  Speaker 2: zero dollars and zero cents. We did the same thing
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  Speaker 2: to Cafe standards, so they can put their standards out,
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  Speaker 2: but the penalty for violating it is zero. And I
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  Speaker 2: want to mention, look, this is again like PBS at NPR.
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  Speaker 2: This has been a conservative battle for fifty years.
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  Speaker 3: And Democrats have been winning for fifty years, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: And we got this done. I wrote this portion, it
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  Speaker 2: is in the bill, it is zeroed out, and we
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  Speaker 2: got this done. And I'm willing to bet fewer than
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  Speaker 2: one percent of our listeners even knew we had done it,
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  Speaker 2: because we won so many victories that this falls all
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  Speaker 2: the way down to number ten on the list.
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  Speaker 3: Incredible, well done.
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  Speaker 2: The final two, yep, the final two, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: are very near and dear to my heart. Number eleven
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  Speaker 2: is school choice. In this bill, we passed the single
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  Speaker 2: largest and most consequential federal school choice bill in the
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  Speaker 2: history of our country. I wrote this provision. Every single
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  Speaker 2: American taxpayer can now contribute up to seventeen hundred dollars
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  Speaker 2: a year to a scholarship granting organization in the States
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  Speaker 2: and get a dollar for dollar credit on their taxes.
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  Speaker 2: It means the money is free. The effect of this
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  Speaker 2: is going to be tens of billions of new scholarship
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  Speaker 2: money in the states for school choice, for K through
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  Speaker 2: twelve school choice. We're going to do a subsequent pod
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  Speaker 2: that does a really deep die because this.
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  Speaker 3: Is part of your legacy. By the way, this is
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  Speaker 3: going to be part of your life.
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  Speaker 2: This is the issue I care more about than anything else.
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  Speaker 2: I have spent thirty years fighting for it. And we're
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  Speaker 2: going to do another pod where we do a very
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  Speaker 2: deep dive because there's some aspects of this that I
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  Speaker 2: want the listeners to appreciate that are both incredible policy
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  Speaker 2: victories but also massive political victories. We are creating incentives
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  Speaker 2: to turn blue states red, to build constituencies of parents
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  Speaker 2: and kids who want fantastic educations. This this is I
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  Speaker 2: told the President. If and when we get this done,
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  Speaker 2: you will go down in history as one of the
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  Speaker 2: greatest civil rights presidents in our nation's history. Your critics
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  Speaker 2: will never acknowledge that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the reality will be you're going to change
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  Speaker 3: poor communities.
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  Speaker 2: The reality is the school choice provision is massive, and
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  Speaker 2: it's in the bill. And then the final number twelve
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  Speaker 2: are the Trump accounts, the invest America accounts. Again, I
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  Speaker 2: wrote this provision.
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  Speaker 3: This can fundamentally change this country.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, starting next year July fourth of next year,
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  Speaker 2: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States
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  Speaker 2: of America, every child in America will have a personal
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  Speaker 2: investment account. Every newborn child will have it seated with
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  Speaker 2: one thousand dollars. Parents, family employers can contribute up to
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  Speaker 2: five thousand dollars a year in a tax advantage account.
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  Speaker 2: All of that money is invested in the S and P.
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  Speaker 2: Five hundred is invested in the stock market. That enables
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  Speaker 2: every kid to enjoy the incredible benefits of compound growth,
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  Speaker 2: which will try transform our kids. The wealth creation for
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  Speaker 2: the next generation of Americans will be utterly transformative. And
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  Speaker 2: not only that, this creates a new generation of capitalists,
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  Speaker 2: as our kids will all be owners of the largest
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  Speaker 2: employers in America. These two victories, school choice and personal
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  Speaker 2: investment accounts for kids without exaggeration, Ben and I've told
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  Speaker 2: the President this. I think ten years, twenty years, thirty
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  Speaker 2: years from now, these will be the two things everyone
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  Speaker 2: remembers from this bill. Everything else. I listed one through ten,
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  Speaker 2: which are massive that they are conservative victories for the generations.
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  Speaker 2: I think eleven and twelve will dwarf one in ten
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  Speaker 2: because the difference, we will see trillions of dollars invested
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  Speaker 2: in four oh one case for kids in these Trump
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  Speaker 2: accounts that will change the future of every one of
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  Speaker 2: our kids and make them all have skin in the
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  Speaker 2: game in our capitalist society. And school choice is going
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  Speaker 2: to literally prove hope and opportunity to millions of kids.
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  Speaker 2: We got both of them done. Those are victories, generational victories,
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  Speaker 2: and when the President signed it on July fourth, they
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  Speaker 2: were victories for all of America.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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  Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, I
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  Speaker 1: want to move to something else, and this is about
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  Speaker 1: securing our skies, law enforcement and drones and public safety
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  Speaker 1: or something I think a lot of people are paying
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  Speaker 1: attention to, especially since we really exposed this on Verdict,
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  Speaker 1: where we were talking about how the cartels have got
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  Speaker 1: an amazing ability to use drones. Now they are heavily
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  Speaker 1: advanced and have advanced invested in this technology for drones
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  Speaker 1: to be able to see what we're doing on our
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  Speaker 1: side of the border. See when border patrol agans are
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  Speaker 1: going one direction or the others. They can get people across,
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  Speaker 1: drugs across. It's incredible. There's also another national security standpoint
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  Speaker 1: on drones as well. We've witnessed what drones are becoming
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  Speaker 1: this war with Russia and Ukraine, and it terrifies me
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  Speaker 1: what we're seeing now with drone technology and how drones
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  Speaker 1: are changing warfare, and unfortunately you're seeing it have a
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  Speaker 1: massive impact on the number of casualties between Russia and Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: You combine those two things, the cartels, the drugs, the
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  Speaker 1: human trafficking, sex trafficking, child trafficking, the fetanyl and the
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  Speaker 1: war aspect of this, and there's a nefarious individual's isis
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  Speaker 1: how kind of the list goes on and on. You
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  Speaker 1: guys are looking at this from an issue of we
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  Speaker 1: got to secure our skies with this new legislation that
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  Speaker 1: you're advocating for.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about that, well, war often foreshadows the next threats
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  Speaker 2: we will face, the next threats we will face from terrorism,
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  Speaker 2: the next threats we will face from criminal attacks, and
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  Speaker 2: you're right the war in Ukraine right now. If you
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  Speaker 2: look at how drones are being used, it illustrates the
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  Speaker 2: profound threat. We had a hearing this week in the
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  Speaker 2: Senate Judiciary Committee. I raised some questions on this. I
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  Speaker 2: laid this out. Give a listen to what I had
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  Speaker 2: to say in the Judiciary Committee hearing this week. In
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, Thomas Crooks flew a drone over a
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  Speaker 2: Trump rally site for eleven minutes, scouting the grounds before
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  Speaker 2: his attempted assassination of President Trump. That same year, drones
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  Speaker 2: hovered over Naval air Station Fort Worth for more than
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  Speaker 2: two hours unintercepted. At our southern border, cartels now operate
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  Speaker 2: drone fleet, smuggling fentanyl, coordinating illegal crossings, and jamming US surveillance.
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  Speaker 2: They formed specialized drone units. They've dropped bombs, They've deployed jammers.
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  Speaker 2: Drones right now are outpacing our law enforcement at every turn.
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  Speaker 2: Drones drop weapons, phones, and fentanyl, arming inmates, and fueling
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  Speaker 2: the deadliest drug drug epidemic in American history. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the most damning part. Cartels right now have more drone
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  Speaker 2: capability than American law enforcement. Let me repeat that cartels
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  Speaker 2: today have more drone capability than American law enforcement. Mister Hardy,
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  Speaker 2: you work at the intersection of law and policy regarding
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  Speaker 2: drones at the DOJ. Is it true that only a
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  Speaker 2: handful of federal agents under narrow legal authority can intercept
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  Speaker 2: or disable a drone?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Senator. That is generally true under the twenty
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  Speaker 4: eighteen Act that gives DHS and DHS a DOJ authority
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  Speaker 4: to conduct detection and mitigration operation.
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  Speaker 3: That shocking center.
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  Speaker 1: That that's it, Like were you want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: being behind me the eight ball?
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  Speaker 3: Like good grief?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And it's not just at the hearing. We also
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  Speaker 2: got into the fact that federal law enforcement is highly
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  Speaker 2: limited and actually stayed in. Local law enforcement is even
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  Speaker 2: more limited. So understand the threat we're going to face.
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  Speaker 2: We are going to see a major terrorist attack carried
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  Speaker 2: out by drones. We are going to see people killed
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  Speaker 2: via drones. We may see a drone flown into a
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  Speaker 2: commercial airline. We are going to see I believe, political
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  Speaker 2: leaders assassinated using drones. The threats are massive and right now,
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  Speaker 2: the authority of law enforcements take out a drone. If
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  Speaker 2: there's a drone that is over a sports stadium for
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  Speaker 2: a football game, a baseball game, a World Cup game.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, there is extremely limited, almost no authority to
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  Speaker 2: take out that drone, even moments before it detonates a bomb,
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  Speaker 2: or distributes a bioweapon, or engages in some other act
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  Speaker 2: of terrorism.
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  Speaker 3: This is the most scary.
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  Speaker 1: I think part about red tape with government is if
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you see a threat and it's there, it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: you have to hope that law enforcement will just say
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I'll deal with one of the consequences later, because I
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  Speaker 1: know I'm doing the right thing, and you worry that
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: people are like, well, hold on a second, you can't
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  Speaker 1: do that, you don't have the authority, and then the
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  Speaker 1: worst case scenario happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, and this hearing is driving we need legislation
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  Speaker 2: that gives law enforcement the authority to protect us, to
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  Speaker 2: take out drones, to take out drones that are a
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  Speaker 2: threat to airplanes. I am very concerned about an aviation
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  Speaker 2: accident of a drone getting in the way of a
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: commercial aircraft. We need authority to take out drones that
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: pose a threat to civilians, pose a threat to sports gatherings,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: pose a threat. As I laid out the assassination attempt
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  Speaker 2: on Donald Trump, the assassin who shot President Trump used
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: a drone initially to scout it out. This is coming
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and it is dangerous, and I think we have a
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  Speaker 2: responsibility to act and to act. You know, there's a
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  Speaker 2: long phenomenon that when it comes to warfare, generals far
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: too often fight the last war rather than the next war.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: If you look at the war in Ukraine, it gives
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  Speaker 2: us a window into the future because drones allow for
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  Speaker 2: asymmetric attacks for those who lack power to use a
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: four hundred dollars drone to take out a multimillion dollar
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  Speaker 2: tank or a multimillion dollar fighter jet. That asymmetry is
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: dangerous and I think we need real leadership, real leadership
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  Speaker 2: on the part of the Trump administration, real leadership on
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  Speaker 2: the part of Congress to enhance our ability to stop
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  Speaker 2: dangerous drones and to recognize this is the next frontier
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  Speaker 2: for warfare, for terrorism, and for threats of violence against
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  Speaker 2: civilians across this country.
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  Speaker 1: Final question on this, do you believe this is at
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  Speaker 1: least one of those issues where you can get bipartisan support,
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  Speaker 1: that this won't be Republican to v Democrat and make
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: this so hard to do. Our Democrats on board with
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  Speaker 1: us because it's a national security issue.
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  Speaker 3: So I hope.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know yet if Democrats will be willing
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  Speaker 2: to work together. It should be. I mean, this ought
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: to be a level of common sense that people would recognize.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: This threat is not a partisan threat. It's not a
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  Speaker 2: right wing threat or a left wing threat. It's a
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: vulnerability we have as a society. And so I'm certainly
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: going to try to get Democrats and Republicans to come together.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: But I will say it as early so we don't
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  Speaker 2: know for sure, but this ought to be an issue
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: that brings us all together.
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  Speaker 3: As before.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: on this topic, you can go back and dow the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: podcasts from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I want to get back to the big story, number
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  Speaker 1: three of the week. You may have missed, all right,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: so let's go to the Bombshell Center. I was in
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: DC when this happened, and everyone was talking about the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: report that was released showing how the Oba administration in
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: essence perpetrated the Russian hoax on Donald Trump to under
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: by his presidency but also to really get him out
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: of the White House.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and it's important to understand what is
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: new about this. Listen, everyone has known for some time
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: that the Obama team pushed the Russia Russia Russia hoax.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: We've known that that's been well established. What is new,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: what Tulsea Gabbard put out this week is that they
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: knew they were lying when they did that, because the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: intelligence had been precisely the opposite. And what I want
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: to do is I want to walk through a little
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: bit of this timeline and give you the specific facts.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: So August thirty first of twenty sixteen, a DHS official
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: tells former DNI director James Clapper that there was quote
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: no indication of a Russian threat to directly manipulate the
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  Speaker 2: actual vote count. That's in August of twenty sixteen. Then
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: September second, twenty sixteen, the FBI said it was quote
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable implying that there was definitive information that Russia intended
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to disrupt our elections. Then on September ninth, twenty sixteen, quote,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the intelligence community concluded that Russia was probably not trying
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to influence the election by using cyber means to target
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: election infrastructure. That continued, so that was not just through
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: August and September of twenty sixteen, but it continued after
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the election. The election happens in November twenty sixteen. On
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: December seventh, twenty sixteen, here are the talking points that
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: DNI Director Clapper had prepared for him. Quote, foreign adversaries
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: did not use iber attacks on election infrastructure to alter
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the US presidential election outcome. The next day, December eighth,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Barack Obama's Presidential Daily Brief read as follows. Quote We
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: assess that Russian and criminal actors did not impact recent
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  Speaker 2: US election results by conducting militious cyber activities against election infrastructure.
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  Speaker 3: That's an important point there by the way.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Barack Obama was briefed on December eighth, And
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: then December ninth, twenty sixteen, everything changed. On December ninth,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: d and I Director Clapper, national Security Advisor Susan Rice,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Secretary of State John Carey, and Deputy FBI Director McCabe.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: They all met in person, and in that meeting they
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: reversed course entirely one hundred and eighty degrees. They flipped,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and they agreed to recommend and sanctioning members of the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Russian military intelligence because of the Russia hoax. They tasked
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the intelligence community with creating an assessment of the tools
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Moscow used to influence the twenty sixteen election, and that
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: same day, deep state officials in the intelligence community began
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: leaking false intelligence to the Washington Post. This was a
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: decision they made to lie to the American people, and
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: that's the news.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Deliberately and orchestrated and well planned out. This wasn't just
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: a random what's got there and lie at a press briefing.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: This was a plan, like writing a movie script of
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: how you were going to lie to the American people
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and use the intelligence agencies to do it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And what Tulsey Gabbert has now given us the receipts
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: on is they knew they were lying that for months
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and months and months, the intelligence community had been reporting
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: exactly the opposite. So when they made this decision, it
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: was a political determination. It was a political determination because
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: they hated Donald Trump. And it was a political determination
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: because they were furious with the American people for electing
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump president. And this was an attempt to subvert democracy.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And this was an attempt to overthrow the then newly
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: elected president of the United States. And what is brazen
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: about it is that they did it all of the
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: intelligence that for months and months and months had been reported,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: it suddenly magically disappeared. They didn't acknowledge it. They simply
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: those facts were no longer operative. They had a political agenda,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: facts be damned, and they were willing to lie to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the American people, and they were willing to lie to Congress.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Ceda.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I want to go back into what Tulsa Gabbert said
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: when she went to the White House White House Press
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: briefing room, and she opened it up as she was
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: introduced by the White House pres Secretary, and here's what
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: she had to say.
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  Speaker 5: The stunning revelations that we are releasing today should be
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: of concern to every American. This is not about Democrats Republicans.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: This has to do with the integrity of our Democratic
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: republic and American voters having faith that the votes cast
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: will count. There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Obama and his national security team directed the creation of
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false. They
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: knew it would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: in the twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: selling it to the American people as though it were true.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: It wasn't. The report that we released today shows in
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: great detail how they carried this out. They manufactured findings
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: from shoddy sources. They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: disproved their false claims. They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: community standards and withheld the truth from the American people.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: the American people who elected Donald Trump in that election
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: in November of twenty sixteen. They worked with their partners
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: in the media to promote this lie, ultimately to undermine
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: the legitimacy of President Trump and launching what would be
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: a year's long coup against him and his administration.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: A year's long coup against him and his administration orchestrated
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: with the deep state and the media.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: She's indicting all of them, saying they knew this was
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: a lie.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: She is, and I will say, as she rightly pointed out,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the evidence she put out shows number one, it was
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: false that Russia was trying to interfere with the election.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: But number two, a second predicate of their lie is
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: that Russia was trying to interfere to benefit Donald Trump.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: That was a critical Democrat partisan lie. And one of
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the pieces that she put out is that the Obama
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: intelligence community assessed that Russia had in its possession damaging
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: information about Hillary Clinton, including the NC communication. So this
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: is the Democrat National Committee communicating saying that Clinton was
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: suffering from quote intensified psycho emotional problems, including uncontrolled fits
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness. And by the way, that's
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: really weird.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Well you better aroun Hillary Clinton and cheerful if you've
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: better around Hillary Clinton.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: She's not exactly the most cheerful person, so that would
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: be a red flag.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: And what the DNC communications further indicated was that Clinton
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: was placed on a daily regimen of quote heavy tranquilizers,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and while being afraid of losing, she remained quote obsessed
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: with a thirst for power. Now, I don't know if
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: if this supposed Russian intelligence is accurate or not. Tulsea
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Gabbard released it and said that the Obama intelligence community
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: assessed that Russia had this And here's the critical part.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Russia didn't release it. It clearly would have been damaging
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: to Hillary Clinton. If they wanted Donald Trump to win,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: they would have put it out, presumably in October of
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. They didn't that she had another element of
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the lie.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: It's a huge element of the lie.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: So the question now becomes this where we go from here,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and it seems to be moving actually very fast. Great
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: example of that is the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, we're
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: now being told, is forming a strike force to quote
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: investigate disclosures from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: that would be Toulsa Gabbard that raises allegations the Obama
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: administration quote manufactured an intelligence assessment in twenty seventeen promoting
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the Russian Hoaks collusion, saying quote the Department of Justice
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: announcing the formation of the strike force on Wednesday. The
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: strike force will assess the evidence publicized by the d
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and I director and investigate any potential quote next level
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: steps which might stem from d and I Gabbard's disclosures
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: that's coming from the release. And Bondi called the disclosures
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: from Gabbard's office quote quote troubling in the statement.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm very glad that the Trump Department of Justice
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: is investigating this. Tulsea Gabbard made a criminal referral to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the Department of Justice, and Pambondi launched this strike force,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: and many people are asking quite reasonably. Is anyone going
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: to be held accountable for this? Because it seems so
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: frustrating to have people breaking the law over and over
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: and over again and nobody being prosecuted, nobody going to jail.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I very much hope people are held accountable. I hope
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: that the Trump Department of Justice is able to prosecute
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and and and prove if there is criminal conduct, that
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: they're able to prove it and get convictions and people
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: are held accountable. And I'll tell you the people who
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: are most likely to face criminal liability are those senior
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: members of the Obama intelligence community, those people that were
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: in the the the December ninth meeting where they decided
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to deliberately lie to the American people. Those names, by
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the way, and in particular, so those names.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: You're talking about James Clapper for one example, we're talking
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the biggest names there.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm talking about James Clapper, I'm talking about Susan Rice,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about John Carey, and I'm talking about Deputy
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: FBI director mckabe. Wow, those were the ones. And in particular,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: also it is the senior officials who testified, falsely testified
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: before Congress and lied and knew there were lying. And
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: there are two relevant federal criminal statutes that are most relevant.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Number one is eighteen USC. Section sixteen twenty one, and
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: that is perjury. Whoever, having taken an oath, wilfully states
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: any material matter which he does not believe to be true,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: is guilty of perjury. That this applies to sworn congressional testimony.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: And secondly, eighteen USC. Section one thousand and one, whoever
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: knowingly and wilfully makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: statement in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: or judicial branch shall be fined or in prison. Both
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: of these you've got, in particular, two different testimonies that
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: are really problematic. Number one, on May eighth, twenty seventeen,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: James Clapper testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee about the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Russia collusion and what he said, according to what's been
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: released by Toolsey Gabbert, he knew was false. He said,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: in particular, quote Russia's influence activities in the run up
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: to the twenty sixteen presidential election constituted the high water
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: mark of their long running efforts. They must be congratulating themselves.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: This episode is a clarion call for vigilance and action
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: against the threat to the very foundations of our democratic system.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And then in November twenty twenty, Andrew McCabe testified before
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the Senate Judiciary Committee. He lied as well, and I
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: will say for the Statute of Limitations, if it was
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: materially covered up, it is extended. This is the most
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: likely area you'll find criminal liability.
• 32:45
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